@@TheOmegaRiddler still isnt what OP was saying. All OP was solving was the issue of appearing sweaty, regardless of where the sweat actually came from
watching this man vehemently deny that it’s a pyramid scheme, and then immediately explain the business by drawing a triangle with his hands is peak comedy
@@ciscobriones5904 ehhh comes with some pretty heavy downsides....RUINS your credit for YEARS with no hope of recovery until that period is over. essentially, File bankruptcy on last resort stuff. It can relieve your debt fast yes but the long term ramifications are rough.
The moment one of them says "Isn't that a pyramid scheme" the only move you have is respectfully nodding your head, taking your cardboard sign and leaving the premises as quickly as possible before the camera has too many opportunities to capture your face.
@@hyperion3145 but yeah like pitching it to people who don’t understand business or who themselves are desperate is different and pitching to people who are investors and business people by profession is super dumb. You don’t try to hustle a hustler
the producers set him up, sort of. like placing the hottest lighting right on his face and probably not explaining all that he needed to pitch or something like that. It's like on those talent shows where sometimes they would play songs out of tune so the singer does bad and gets mad
@@efexzium Ehhhh. It's more of a web than a pyramid. And everyone benefits from the orthodox structure. Pyramid schemes just end up crashing and only benefit the people at the very very top in the end. Everyone else crumples compared to like google, which pays everyone and doesn't fuck over the people inside of the web.
@@efexzium The difference is that pyramid schemes don't pay you a salary, so you have to rely on selling a product that most of the time wont make back the money you spent on them. Let's say its protein powder. First you have to buy a pack of protein powder (most of the time they will try to convince you into buying multiple for a discount) then you have to sell it to anyone you can. Then they will tell you if you hit a quota, you'll get a bonus or an expensive prize. If somehow you're successful enough, you start selling larger quantities to groups of people and boom, you've become the person who originally sold it to you. Thing is, 99% of people will not become that successful because no one wants your damn protein powder and you've spent $500 on packs of protein powder that will be sitting in your garage for years. Or you could just work at JC Penny and make $13 an hour.
The sharks job: find good business to invest in The producers job: find businesses that will get the best reactions from the sharks, negative or positive
The original one of these shows was Dragons Den UK. It was named that way because a dragons den was dangerous, But full of gold. You'll either gain riches or get burned
Dang that's cool! I didn't understand the Dragons Den name til you said that. I also thought Shark Tank US was the first of its kind, probably cause that's the only media I was exposed to when I was younger.
@@d33763 i forgot what the youtuber was since i'm not subbed to him but there was a guy that went to one of those meetings and managed to get a recording. they use a lot of fear tactics to make what they are doing seem really good In the meeting they bashed schools a bit, they hinted that college was "sorta alright" but went on to say owing people money is bad or something like that, which was kind of ironic, and they also downtalked jobs that you don't earn a lot from. all of it screamed "you're poor and don't have money to spend, so buy a package and you'll be rich. become your own boss!" the creepiest part is that the speaker asked people to: "don't question how this works, just question how you can make money as fast as you can/join as fast as you can"
Little PSA here: NEVER drink water out of a dehumidifier. It’s very dangerous and there’s no way any filtration system they have in there is making it safe to drink.
lmao imagine someone getting apprehended by the police, standing beside a dead body, bloody knife in hand and he says "it's not murder, because murder is illegal" GOLD
I'll never forget the day my brother in law called me and asked me if I had ever heard of multi level marketing. He got sucked into it, spent thousands, held little presentations at his house, within a year, he had lost his marriage, his legitimate company, owed the irs thousands and is still struggling to recover from what I hear and this was over 10 years ago.
Team of destiny? Honestly, it was the most cultish group I’ve ever seen. I spent 300 bucks, took a trip to central Michigan and spent 1-2 nights dealing with a pushy guy I didn’t know. It was a waste of my time, but it was also kind of fun. Not that anything came from it. Better than doing drugs or whatever.
@@isaaclopez-cordell243 and hopefully she gets fucked over by her next relationship. Way to go, abandoning your partner when they lose it all. Dude legit thought he was working towards something valuable. Not losing it all shooting drugs or buying hookers. That’s not a behavior issue. That’s an asset. Dude just got played. And you’ll be hard pressed to say you’ve never been played by someone in your life.
I hope someone took him aside after this public humiliation and explained things to him/gave him advice on what to do with his life now after losing all that money
Imagine being ambitious enough to get onto Shark Tank with a pyramid scheme, but too unintelligent to know you're in a pyramid scheme. That's a killer Achilles heel.
Don't producers screen the businesses to make sure they're legit? I guess they gotta include some duds like America's got Talent include some horrible singers
The lady in the first clip instantly knew what was up and was trying to tell Kevin to not chew his ass up and let him finish first. I can respect it lol
I absolutely love her! She’s actually so sweet to let that dumbass scammer get his idiotic pitch out even though she knew what was up from the beginning.
I like how one of the investors (Kevin) has the decency to forewarn the first guy, while the other investors are leaning forward to see just how deep a hole this guy can dig.
this! when i was a child (why was i watching an investing show at 11?) i used to think kevin was just a mean bully, now i appreciate the fact that he was always straight up instead of playing the people and getting their hopes up
@@spideyxalmighty695 nah he’s still a spiteful capitalist douchebag. have you seen him explaining that a child in africa with no access to water can be inspired by millionaires in america = capitalism is good? i’ll give you he’s a business man but one that’s definitely out of the loop of reality
Kevin's just taking sadistic pleasure at his expense. Arlene seemed to actually try to explain it to him. The other ones just didn't want anything to do with it, which, fair enough.
The first one where he literally draws a pyramid with his hands reminds me of the scene out of the office where Michael tries to pitch a pyramid scheme to everybody and ends up drawing a pyramid on the board trying to explain it. One of the best scenes from The Office imo.
Yesss. In the episode when they talk about Ryan going to business school, Michaels mentions that he got caught in a pyramid scheme when he was younger and lost all his money. He didn't learn his lesson, got fooled by the guy with the corvette and the calling cards 😭
I think Dragons Den is much more appropriate. A mythological creature born of unchecked avarice, dragons horde wealth, are miserly, and will only help people if they benefit more out of an arrangement.
A nice healthy mixture of both with a dash of not knowing that other people do in fact...have TVs. Fun fact that pyramid schemes product had its stock plummet after this episode.
Made me wonder if he purposely went up there to shine a light on the scam. Doubt it, but it's astounding how he could say all those things and not see it's a pyramid.
Sadly, it happens. One of my coworkers tried getting me to join. She's a smart lady, used to do digital security, and when she described how you give 500$ and then get 3 people to join, each giving you 500, you pocket 1000$ and "re-submit" the other 500$ to go the person you signed up with, I was like "this sounds like a pyramid scheme." I even basically did what the lady did on the show, making the pyramid shape as I'm breaking it down, and she still kept insisting it's not a pyramid scheme. It was so bizarre. I stopped talking to her much after that since I realized she was only nice to me because she was planning on making the pitch. I think they're so desperate to get their money back that they refuse to admit to themselves it was a pyramid scheme.
I doubt it's scripted but is vetted and allowed in because it'll make a good show episode. Like the singing ones where they allow horrible singers in because hey you need someone to crash and burn on national tv.
"Our product produces water out of air." This sounds like a great pitch to anyone who's never looked at their utility bill and seen how cheap water is in comparison to the electricity required to condense it.
Also, I feel like he’s used to that line shocking people. Making the machine sound miraculous. Especially if it’s not common to use dehumidifiers in the UK.
I had a lady pitch a pyramid scheme to me in the parking lot of the grocery store I work at, and one of her biggest selling points was "It's not a pyramid scheme" If you have to specify it's not a pyramid scheme, it's probably a pyramid scheme.
if someone pitches something to me in a parking lot, im probably not investing lol. It would need to be something extraordinary like investing in their family while they aim a gun to my chest
He got scammed by his girlfriend... Goes to show. Pyramid scheme scams don't come in the form of a stranger trying to sell u something, it comes in the form of ur closest allies
Friend from high school I haven't heard from in 10 years..."Hey! We are looking for highly motivated individuals that are trying to make extra money! Why don't I buy you lunch?"
@@BigfootUnibrowMan My girlfriend's old friend tried to get her to join a pyramid scheme with her and offered what you just said. Crazy how people will randomly do crap like that
@@patc9185 that's what I did lmao I got free lunch and coffee and pretended to be interested. It was ACN btw. The dude that was pitching to me was a old college friend 😂 I blocked him the day after
Yeah. Had a coworker that tried to drag me into one of these. I was gonna hear them out until they told me there was a $500 startup fee. Like seriously dude I’m not gonna pay to work for you.
Hey tbf isn’t that any business? Got the owner then managers then workers. Edit: its so funny looking at the comments and seeing so many people taking it so seriously. Maybe your all getting this way because you hate to admit your at bottom. Also nfts are the modern pyramid scheme.
@@twinkiesnails8857 being kind doesn’t mean you’re an idiot. I think knowing when to be kind and when to put your foot down without being rude is a kind of shrewdness
@theladycata9648 i never said it made someone an idiot, i see where your coming from. Being shrewd refers to good judgment, but is negatively connotated as being underhanded or manipulative. What youre describing is having boundaries
Fun fact, the first one: Lyoness actually changed to Lyconet recently and has been fined millions of dollars because of these schemes. The average person wins less than .3 cents a month when the "regular" should be $23 a month. This is very common in Europe and many nations advise against them
My Boss wanted to take part in this whole cashback BS and we hated it the moment we started working with them. Nothing ever really worked, we invested a whole lot of money and time and in the end cancelled the contract cause they couldn't keep their promises. Wasted half a year on that crap
11:17 all I can think about. Is when Michael from the office is telling Jim it’s not a pyramid scheme. And Jim literally draws a pyramid around what he just explained. 😂
@@mat4263 nah, I’m pretty sure it’s a business, did you not see his pitch? His Bulgarian exwife on the run clearly knows whats she’s doing, he just needs £175000 and 10 more years to get his investment back
As someone who frequently watches UK Dragons Den, while you could be right about the warm light, the people who do the good, confident, clever pitches almost never sweat at all. These people are very nervous.
The counterintuitive truth is reality tv leaves nothing to chance. If you want to know why badguys sweat and goodguys don't? Production. Why normal people come across as sitcom characters in interviews but normal people after the show ends? Production Why people always seem to do stupid things that make no logical sense or goes against common decency Production. Everything you see of the final product has been carefully designed, guided, cut, shot, and edited to look, sound, and feel a specific way. Reality TV is truly a misnomer.
@@GuitarSlayer136music placement is one of the biggest things, oh and cutting multiple angles into a single sequence so it looks like people are staring at each other with an awkward silence.
Low key wanna make a company from purified celebrity sweat. The sweat, you pay the celeb, purify the sweat into drinkable water enriched with minerals, sell a pretty penny a pop and shebam! Stonks.
Yeah, its basically distilled water. You can drink it in small amounts, but if you're gonna drink it daily you'd need to add a small amount of minerals to it.
@@nicholasweiss4662 The minerals it does have come from dust that accumulates on the fins and small amounts of metal from the fins which are definitely not good.
Depending on the dehumidifying method there can be lethal amounts of bacteria in it. Some dehumidifiers use cooling to collect the water but certain bacteria thrive in those conditions.
This has to be staged. There's no way he comes out dressed like that and clearly lays out a pyramid scheme to serious business ppl. Hopefully viewers learned something though, which I think was the point.
It is probably real (otherwise show would have the disclaimer most US reality TV has before being shown in the UK, that its fake, some scenes are added for dramatic affect that one, didnt spot one when Dragons Den US used to be shown over here) it is just the same technique that Got Talent shows use and so on where they are vetted before hand and they get an invite to the show thinking they are being taken serious when really they are just there to be laughed at.
I feel bad for him. I mean, this is different than public speaking classes but those are proof no matter how prepared you are, when nerves get you it can ruin everything. I also think the lights theory is correct. Performance/entertainment lighting is quite warm, but can be set in a way to make the actors/presenters more warm and less comfortable. I think given the high pressure situation and the produced aspects to make it worse, we should have pity for pyramid scheme man
@@destroyerinazuma96 True. In this kind of investments, you are investing in a person or team rather than in a product or service. With the right person or team, you will often find the product/service with time.
I have a few friends who got caught in MLM’s and they tried to bring me in numerous times. I hate to say it, but they became drones. They’re all like “how is this a pyramid?” And they make the implication that jobs like the one i have are “the real pyramid scheme. The CEO makes the most money, then the actual employees make much less than them”. And they make seem it so convincing too
@@anthonylong9067 it's so frustrating cos the pyramid scheme is a super ramped up worse version of that already pretty bleak CEO to worker income inequality
@@anthonylong9067 To be fair they aren't wrong, which is why they aren't aware that they're in a pyramid scheme since their attention is entirely diverted against the current system in place and their ego is being stroked
Oooh, that's a good point. I really hope that's true cause if so, then this man saw his life falling apart and fgured "if it's gonna collapse, I'm taking the cause of the collapse down with me!"
In 90's Russia they were everywhere cause they knew police couldn't do jack. And they preyed on people by promising rates higher than the rampant inflation when everyone's retirement savings lost 90+% value once the Soviet Union collapsed.
Our govt offers savings schemes of around 10% a year on a one time deposit (like you cant add progressively). Though you are bound for a 5 year term. Is this good or bad?
@@sayamqazi depends on how reliable/trustworthy they are. On one hand hardly anyone will use this program if the gvt rips you off. On the other, who knows..
@@destroyerinazuma96 it has been going on for like 15 years and they never ripped off. Also depending on the financial state the rates go up and down, at one time the rate was 19% which from what i have gathered about investment is kind of sus. How are they making that money who konws.
I was sitting in a meeting where people were pitching ideas to investors (although not a tv show) in an advisory role(a friend was one of the investors). The saddest thing was one guy and his girlfriend were pitching a pyramid scheme. They had lost 13K already. One of the investors offered them to lend them enough money to get through school and get real jobs. They took the offer and as far as I know the girlfriend is a physiotherapist and the guy jus started studying physics at the local university.
This poor man at the beginning just genuenly starts explainig the pyramid scheme to them, just completely unaware. I really feel bad for this guy, jeesus.
I've seriously been approached at gas stations like three times. First time, I was young and though "sure, an actual job. I'm looking to switch." Ended up at a Starbucks with a guy explaining what passive income was and at the end telling me there was a conference at a hotel. Learned a lesson that day: ain't nobody gonna offer you a good job while you're pumping gas in basketball shorts
The easiest way to destroy scams like the first one is by asking simple questions: 1. Where is the money coming from if it's free to sign up? 2. Wich retailers are partnering with your program? 3. Why would any retailer want to take up to a 40% loss in every sale? 4. What do retailers gain by taking that loss?
Similar thing with conspiracy theories. First question you should always ask about a conspiracy theory: who makes money off of this? Doesn’t dispel all of them, but it gets the really stupid ones.
Not gonna lie, the first dude is a victim and he knows it. He was feeling really bad, and really looked like someone being held at gun point. Probably got paid a lot and realized the mistake too late or he has a VERY severe anxiety...
@@lilithdoyle5703 I have the feeling he realized he was scammed after the interaction with the Dragons, but he decided to ignore it and stick to the illusion, because he invested a lot of money and time into it. 5 stages of grief, really. First one is denial.
Those guys took one look at a dehumidifier, found out that there's water in the waste compartment and thought, "Yeah...I can sell this as drinking water." AND THEN tied it all up as a pyramid scheme. The boundless creativity of man is not only inspiring but utterly unbelievable.
I know of this scheme . One of my relatives was in it. They literally sold the water filtered out as waste in this aqua filters as drinkable water which can heal . It was at an outrageous price. A fcking scam.
I love how the Dragon's Den woman is like, "Let him finish," while the men are interjecting, then just swoops in with a succinct, "I get it: it's a pyramid scheme."
I knew from the starting what kind of person she was, she's the friend who doesn't bully you w her friends but is actually the worst bully, the one who silently & passively mocks you, but you think she's your friend bc she smiles with you, but at the same time makes you/say or do things that she knows will get you laughed at, bc it's an inside joke when you say or d some certain things with her friends The DD woman knew from the start it was a pyramid scheme, but didn't want to let the other guy ruin the show to early by telling him no no no let him talk! , not saying she's bad person I love her lmao
See kevin is truely the nicest person. He wasnt even going to let that guy get far enough into his pitch to get shamed. There is a hidden kindness in being a arse. One of the many reasons I love watching him break down a bussniss.
in that show where they follow the people after the sharks invest, Kevin is also the best one to invest with. From the episodes I've seen, the other sharks just show up and ask how things are going while Kevin seems very involved through the whole process.
Idk, to me it seems more like one of those classic alpha business man moves that they did all in the time in the 80s and 90s. It feels like he's trying to pysch him out by shaking his confidence, which tbf they're all clearly insulted and actively hostile to him. It's like going on a Gordon Ramsay show and offering him some leftovers you found in the back of the fridge.
I think Arlene is probably one of the wisest people on that board, she lets the guy speak himself into a hole. Never interrupt your enemy when they're making a fool of themselves
I've never watched Shark Tank before, but have watched Dragon's Den. I just wanted to say that I love how the woman is like "No, no. Let this man carry on digging his hole".
He's second place, i dated a girl i met at an asylum after my suicide attempt who uninvited me to her birthday party to fuck my gay guy friends. That was a feild so full of red flags it looked like a coke addicted land surveyors last day on the job.
You KNOW the producers of the show, while screening potential people to pitch on the show, saw these auditions and were like "Ohhh the investors would have a field day with them, get the on the show!"
American Idol formula. In which the pre-screened contestants are even TOLD before they first see the judges, "Some of you are here because you're really good, some of you are here because you're really bad..." And then those really bad people STILL act surprised...
I feel bad since most of them are too dumb to know what they got themselves into, but of course the sharks/dragons won't be the ones to dig them out since it's not that kind of show. Maybe in a different scenario, but they're in "investment mode". I wish rich people would be in "charity mode" more often, but such is the way of the world.
Same here! I'm glad the dragons let the first guy finish his pitch so they could dissect it afterward & explain to the audience exactly why it's a big old scam. I think it's great how they help people identify the way pyramid schemes (or "multi-level marketing" schemes, as they're now called) are commonly pitched, so that the folks watching this show at home don't fall prey to horrible scams like this.
I find it hilarious that the name of the show changes to a different animal and different location in other countries. In Denmark it's a Lion's Den, in Germany a Lion's Cave, in Romania it's a Lion's Arena, in Croatia it's a Dragon's Nest, in Japan it's Money Tigers, in Sri Lanka it's a Wall of Tuskers and the French just ask "Who wants to be my business partner?"
Arlene is so hilarious. She like, instantly knew he was full of shit & instead of calling him on it she said "no no no i wanna see where this is going."
They should have used the first guy to investigate whos at the top of the pyramid scheme, so at least we get a happy ending because its just sad watching him trying to save the sinking boat hes in
I am 85, retired, look like I have money, and am constantly approached by people trying to sell me an MLM! I just let them pitch and then waste as much of their time as I can. In fact I keep notes and write what really works best. Just a way to use up a boring day!
she is the most savage there by showing niceness. the others were dead stopping him before he could explain, that's why he keeps on mumbling while the lady let's him finish then delivers the killing blow.
@@JackHGUK They aren't actually there's real companies that have started from dragons den. Ever heard of wealthsimple? There's a ton of legit companies that started from this show.
I've heard that the producers always prepare one company each episode that they know the Dragons/Sharks will tear apart. One of those reality show meddling to make it interesting.
First time to this channel. I want to say that I was totally absorbed by the two strands of hair clinging to the foam surrounding the microphone. I was so hyper aware of these two hairs that from 9:49 to 9:51, three entire seconds, I was laser-focused on the fact that this could be their end! It was entirely feasible that Coffeezilla could have dislodged them, brushed them off, completely breaking the force which bound these two hairs to the black foam. He failed. It was unsuccessful. So, I continued watching this video, lost within black foam, watching two clinging strands of hair defy all efforts of removal while successfully grabbing the mental and emotional attention of their audience. An audience of one. Me. What a badass video! I never imagined, until today, that two strands of motionless hair could be so entertaining. Thanks.
The first guy was being scammed and didn’t realize it until he started explaining it to the dragons. I feel bad for him and I’m getting anxiety just watching it.
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how to not look sweaty on Dragon's Den:
1) pitch a product that glows in the dark
2) wear it
3) ask the producers to 'please cut the lights'
being sweaty is not the problem, it's the patter they come up with the sell their shite
@@TheOmegaRiddler He didn't say it was the problem, he just gave instructions on how to not sweat.
Plot twist: you glow in the dark
@@tianamaycry It has nothing to do with what he was told. He's in front of wealthy people trying to convince them to invest. It will make you sweat.
@@TheOmegaRiddler still isnt what OP was saying. All OP was solving was the issue of appearing sweaty, regardless of where the sweat actually came from
watching this man vehemently deny that it’s a pyramid scheme, and then immediately explain the business by drawing a triangle with his hands is peak comedy
We’re not talking about thiiis, or thiiis, we’re talking about thiiiiiiiiiiiiis
that was literally something Michael Scott did on the Office
It's not a pyramid scheme, it's a reverse funnel funding formation.
Hahaha@@TheGIJew.
Jim on the office did this lol
Imagine being apart of a scam without knowing it and then realizing it on national television.
A part*
Honestly, that's the worst part. Half the people trying to sell you a pyramid scheme probably got scammed themselves.
@@shayden998100% of them are scammed in a pyramid scheme other than the ones at the top
Oof
I think one of the reasons why they decide to pitch just on a show like show tank is that they’re desperate to sell product
The first guy at least tried to avoid the word “pyramid scheme.” The second group literally said it with their full chests lmao
That's cause he didn't even know he was part of a pyramid scheme till they explained it to him. He'd genuinely been taken in
They were so unbearable to hear…
The first guy literally recreated the office scene where Michael Scott accidentally discovers he’s in a pyramid scheme
Bro i was looking for comments about that same office cold open for like 5 minutes. Thank you for restoring my faith in this comments section
I was about to comment this 😂😂 When she did it with her hands I immediately thought of Jim drawing the triangle around Michael’s diagram
"... I have to go make a call."
-Michael Scott and also Flop Sweat Guy
Lol what episode is that?
Thats what i was thinking lol
The first guy was asking for $175,000 not for the business but so he could pay off the mortgage on his house. He's broke
That's really sad. He got scammed hard
I wonder if it's possible for the victim to call for bankruptcy on this if they decide to cut their losses and go to the police.
@@destroyerinazuma96 in america you can file for bankruptcy as many times as you want!
@@ciscobriones5904 that's actually helpful
@@ciscobriones5904 ehhh comes with some pretty heavy downsides....RUINS your credit for YEARS with no hope of recovery until that period is over. essentially, File bankruptcy on last resort stuff. It can relieve your debt fast yes but the long term ramifications are rough.
it's not a pyramid scheme , it's a 3 sided square method
Or a pentagram method but with less sides
Your profile picture is hilarious
Lmao
It's a trapezoid! *Police sirens*
It's a isoceles triangle!
The moment one of them says "Isn't that a pyramid scheme" the only move you have is respectfully nodding your head, taking your cardboard sign and leaving the premises as quickly as possible before the camera has too many opportunities to capture your face.
That first guy isn't trying to scam anyone, he doesn't even know he's been scammed, he's a true believer
it’s like organized religion✨
@@cas.rose.x profile pic lol
@@cas.rose.x except organized religion is good.
@@yetekt6953 Depends on the religion.
@@yetekt6953 uuuuuuuh
I love how this guy just walked up to professional investors without thinking of a single explanation as to what the product is supposed to do
Often how pyramid schemes are pitched
@@hyperion3145 but yeah like pitching it to people who don’t understand business or who themselves are desperate is different and pitching to people who are investors and business people by profession is super dumb. You don’t try to hustle a hustler
the producers set him up, sort of. like placing the hottest lighting right on his face and probably not explaining all that he needed to pitch or something like that. It's like on those talent shows where sometimes they would play songs out of tune so the singer does bad and gets mad
@@lucassm21 there's a big difference between setting them up, and just not doing the research
Thats because he dosnt even have a product. Thats part of what makes a pyramid scheme making money from signing up people instead of feom sales
The first guy is such a victim that he doesn't even realise he's a victim.
In the end he's become the very thing that destroyed him.
The structure of all companies and capitalism is a pyramid 😂
He's so deep into it that he thinks the only way is through
@@efexzium Ehhhh. It's more of a web than a pyramid. And everyone benefits from the orthodox structure. Pyramid schemes just end up crashing and only benefit the people at the very very top in the end. Everyone else crumples compared to like google, which pays everyone and doesn't fuck over the people inside of the web.
sweat?
@@efexzium The difference is that pyramid schemes don't pay you a salary, so you have to rely on selling a product that most of the time wont make back the money you spent on them. Let's say its protein powder. First you have to buy a pack of protein powder (most of the time they will try to convince you into buying multiple for a discount) then you have to sell it to anyone you can. Then they will tell you if you hit a quota, you'll get a bonus or an expensive prize. If somehow you're successful enough, you start selling larger quantities to groups of people and boom, you've become the person who originally sold it to you. Thing is, 99% of people will not become that successful because no one wants your damn protein powder and you've spent $500 on packs of protein powder that will be sitting in your garage for years. Or you could just work at JC Penny and make $13 an hour.
That first person has the vibe of giving a presentation to your professor, but you didn't study the topic
I will always regret not knowing one paragraph of info before a class presentation.
Girl, so relatable.
When the kid that didn’t do any work has to do the presentation😂
"It's easier to fool a man then it is to convince him he has been fooled"
Because convincing someone that they've been fooled requires you to suggest that they're incorrect. And humans don't like to think they're incorrect.
Totally agree with this statement
It's easier to fool a man than it is to teach him to spell "than" correctly
@@MHNK77 it's less about spelling and more about using the correct homonym.
@@trickytreyperfected1482 it's less about using the correct homonym and more about using the correct homophone
the producers knew they struck gold when they interviewed this man
100th like.
The sharks job: find good business to invest in
The producers job: find businesses that will get the best reactions from the sharks, negative or positive
100% accurate
I haven't laughed this much on any comment in a week
It's like a constant battle between the producers and the investors. "Oh this'll get em for sure."
The original one of these shows was Dragons Den UK. It was named that way because a dragons den was dangerous, But full of gold. You'll either gain riches or get burned
I thought it was based on a Japanese show called "Money Tigers."
@@reloadpsi you are correct. Money tigers was first
Dang that's cool! I didn't understand the Dragons Den name til you said that. I also thought Shark Tank US was the first of its kind, probably cause that's the only media I was exposed to when I was younger.
It’s still shitty shark tank lmao
Yup. I like "Dragons Den" way better.
Sharks might smell blood in the water, but dragons will roast you alive
Sharks can smell blood from FAR away, and then travels all that way to rip you into pieces. Plus dragons aren't real.
Also it's supposed to evoke dragons having a hoard of wealth and not sharks attempting to bite of better deals.
“It’s not a pyramid scheme, it’s a triangle plan”
Reverse funnel system
Its a Trapezoid Scheme-total different from those shady pyramid schemes.
-The Simpsons
That's a man denial. At least Burnlounge came up with a new name: Concentric Marketing.
😆😅🤣😂
Triangle plans are a complete scam!! ...now my pizza wedge business opportunity on the other hand ....
He wasn't trying to scam them. He had no idea what he got himself into.
lol he was scamming them, he just wasn't trying to scam them lol
He’s an actort
Brainwashed fr
Alot of MLMers don't realize they are being scammed, those meetings feel like a cult pledge much more than a business affair. LOL
@@d33763 i forgot what the youtuber was since i'm not subbed to him but there was a guy that went to one of those meetings and managed to get a recording. they use a lot of fear tactics to make what they are doing seem really good
In the meeting they bashed schools a bit, they hinted that college was "sorta alright" but went on to say owing people money is bad or something like that, which was kind of ironic, and they also downtalked jobs that you don't earn a lot from. all of it screamed "you're poor and don't have money to spend, so buy a package and you'll be rich. become your own boss!"
the creepiest part is that the speaker asked people to: "don't question how this works, just question how you can make money as fast as you can/join as fast as you can"
Little PSA here: NEVER drink water out of a dehumidifier. It’s very dangerous and there’s no way any filtration system they have in there is making it safe to drink.
That's probably why, when the hosts tried it, it tasted like shit 😭
Even if it was safe, there's way too little water in the air so it'll be very energy expensive and thus far more expensive than just buying water
will it also dehumidify my fart in the air?😮
Only if itbwas wet@@void_360
plus it has no minerals etc
"Its not a pyramid scheme, cuz those are illegal."
So is murder, but it happens quite a bit.
666 i don't wanna ruin it
In the words of John Oliver, "it's not a pyramid scheme, it's just pyramid shaped."
@Noah Samm how would you put the ban on the ban on the ban on crimes?
lmao imagine someone getting apprehended by the police, standing beside a dead body, bloody knife in hand and he says "it's not murder, because murder is illegal"
GOLD
Right. But some people get away with it. People like Kevin O' Leary
I like how he thinks the lady is helping him, while she's just showing him that his business is a pyramid scheme
In reality kevin was the one helping hin
lol
it's trapezium
What shape did I just made? A triangle ma'am
I think she was trying to help him realize what he got himself into.
I'll never forget the day my brother in law called me and asked me if I had ever heard of multi level marketing. He got sucked into it, spent thousands, held little presentations at his house, within a year, he had lost his marriage, his legitimate company, owed the irs thousands and is still struggling to recover from what I hear and this was over 10 years ago.
Welp, at least your sister was smart enough to get out of that situation.
Or his wife's brother?
Team of destiny? Honestly, it was the most cultish group I’ve ever seen. I spent 300 bucks, took a trip to central Michigan and spent 1-2 nights dealing with a pushy guy I didn’t know.
It was a waste of my time, but it was also kind of fun. Not that anything came from it. Better than doing drugs or whatever.
Now I hear, he's into NFT's
@@isaaclopez-cordell243 and hopefully she gets fucked over by her next relationship.
Way to go, abandoning your partner when they lose it all. Dude legit thought he was working towards something valuable. Not losing it all shooting drugs or buying hookers.
That’s not a behavior issue. That’s an asset. Dude just got played.
And you’ll be hard pressed to say you’ve never been played by someone in your life.
I hope someone took him aside after this public humiliation and explained things to him/gave him advice on what to do with his life now after losing all that money
Imagine being ambitious enough to get onto Shark Tank with a pyramid scheme, but too unintelligent to know you're in a pyramid scheme. That's a killer Achilles heel.
Or desperate enough, he probably lost his house.
Don't producers screen the businesses to make sure they're legit? I guess they gotta include some duds like America's got Talent include some horrible singers
@@lizxu322They screen them to make sure they'll make good television...
Why are they saying dragons? Isnt this sharktank? (In the first one)
@@D4nnyC4tz lol no this is the UK version and it's called the Dragon's Den...weren't you listening
You know it’s a pyramid scheme when they don’t even tell you what the actual product is lol
Yep or if it actually works
Even when they tell you the products..
Its a good ideaaaaa
lmao I swear 🤣 all but the product
he literally stated in about 5 seconds "i dont have a product to sell you"
I still can't get over the sheer world-shaking hubris of the phrase "here's me, and here's the five Dragons under me..."
Yes, I noticed that too: way too cocky, unconsciously...
Also, it was Shark Tank, so he wasn't even calling them the right thing lol
'World-shaking hubris' hahahaha. Eloquently put.
Nope, it was dragons den.@@drigondii
@@drigondii did you even watch the video? Coffee outright said they are called dragons in the Uk
One of the worst things is that these turns gullible folk into scam artists, which makes it difficult to want to help them out.
The lady in the first clip instantly knew what was up and was trying to tell Kevin to not chew his ass up and let him finish first. I can respect it lol
I absolutely love her! She’s actually so sweet to let that dumbass scammer get his idiotic pitch out even though she knew what was up from the beginning.
Arlene doesn't fuck around
She's ultimate troll because she gets thier hope a tad bit up just to push them of harder
No no no, put the shovel down. He's doing a good enough job digging his own hole.
Let the dummy dig his own grave deep enough before burying him HARD!!!
she's seems nice, she's just really letting him dig his own grave, but seeming nice the whole time.
Most legendary words: "So it starts here and gets bigger and bigger and bigger. What did I just make, Andy?"
@@Karttibone it was at this moment he knew, he f’ed up
i honestly think it's fake. its one of those moments that are just too perfect reality tv
@@SHITSWEEEK the acting would have to be top notch then
@@SHITSWEEEK It could be fake. But in this case, I'm OK with that if it gets the message across to people
I love the lady. “Stop. Let him talk.”
Translation: “Everyone shut up. This’ll be funny.”
"ayo watch this shit lmao"
@@NineteenInFrench 😂
"Holup. Let him cook."
Im dead
I love this lady, she shares my energy.
Arlene knew it was a pyramid scheme from the very start. She just wanted him to lay out the entire thing.
He started getting questioned and he himself started realizing how stupid it was.
Lol, it reminds that episode of the Office in which Michael pitchs a business card pyramid scheme.
I like how one of the investors (Kevin) has the decency to forewarn the first guy, while the other investors are leaning forward to see just how deep a hole this guy can dig.
this! when i was a child (why was i watching an investing show at 11?) i used to think kevin was just a mean bully, now i appreciate the fact that he was always straight up instead of playing the people and getting their hopes up
Kevin can be extremely nasty, purposefully spiteful, but he tells it like it is.
@@spideyxalmighty695 nah he’s still a spiteful capitalist douchebag. have you seen him explaining that a child in africa with no access to water can be inspired by millionaires in america = capitalism is good? i’ll give you he’s a business man but one that’s definitely out of the loop of reality
Kevin's just taking sadistic pleasure at his expense. Arlene seemed to actually try to explain it to him. The other ones just didn't want anything to do with it, which, fair enough.
What the guy was pitching was illegal.
The first one where he literally draws a pyramid with his hands reminds me of the scene out of the office where Michael tries to pitch a pyramid scheme to everybody and ends up drawing a pyramid on the board trying to explain it. One of the best scenes from The Office imo.
Yesss. In the episode when they talk about Ryan going to business school, Michaels mentions that he got caught in a pyramid scheme when he was younger and lost all his money. He didn't learn his lesson, got fooled by the guy with the corvette and the calling cards 😭
Is it me or did you just copy a comment i am sorry if you didn't it is just the comment before this one is the same thing
Nah, when Jim impersonates Dwight in the intro 😂 Beats. Bears. Battlestar galactica
this is EXACTLY what i thought IMMEDIATELY
Every scene in the office is one of the best scenes.
I think Dragons Den is much more appropriate. A mythological creature born of unchecked avarice, dragons horde wealth, are miserly, and will only help people if they benefit more out of an arrangement.
A homeless dude never gave me a job.
In Germany the show is called Die Höhle der Löwen (The Cave of the Lions).
@@pi_xiit’s similar in Romanian: Imperiul Leilor( Lion’s Empire). I guess they ran out of threatening animals 😂
@@mime514Disappointing that there's no snake related names
How are none of them fox related?
The first guy wasn't even trying to start a new MLM and be at the top. He tried to recruit the Dragons as his downlines 🤣🤣🤣
Balls of steel at least
@@vanflyheight8487 or delusional in highest degree
A nice healthy mixture of both with a dash of not knowing that other people do in fact...have TVs. Fun fact that pyramid schemes product had its stock plummet after this episode.
So hilarious lmao.
Walking up to someone holding a gun doesn't make you brave if you don't know what a gun is.
she's the most cunning of them, holy shit.
calm, composed and simply asking questions, my guy simply fell into her kindness trap lmao
Yeah she let the first guy dig his own grave, and then pushed him in
That's what a lot female CEO's end up doing cos they know it works to whittle down a man's ego first
Rule of Acquisition 48: "The bigger the smile, the sharper the knife."
THE KINDNESS PYRAMID!
@@gholamdapantaloonsniffer8218 That's what we call a "ruthless business badass queen" in the realms of the internet.
When he unknowingly started describing the pyramid shape I lost my ability to suspend disbelief. There's no way this wasn't scripted lol
Made me wonder if he purposely went up there to shine a light on the scam. Doubt it, but it's astounding how he could say all those things and not see it's a pyramid.
Especially with his pink shirt with a giant collar. He just looks like a character.
It's the exact gag used in the office I think dragons den stole it lmao
Sadly, it happens. One of my coworkers tried getting me to join. She's a smart lady, used to do digital security, and when she described how you give 500$ and then get 3 people to join, each giving you 500, you pocket 1000$ and "re-submit" the other 500$ to go the person you signed up with, I was like "this sounds like a pyramid scheme." I even basically did what the lady did on the show, making the pyramid shape as I'm breaking it down, and she still kept insisting it's not a pyramid scheme.
It was so bizarre. I stopped talking to her much after that since I realized she was only nice to me because she was planning on making the pitch.
I think they're so desperate to get their money back that they refuse to admit to themselves it was a pyramid scheme.
I doubt it's scripted but is vetted and allowed in because it'll make a good show episode. Like the singing ones where they allow horrible singers in because hey you need someone to crash and burn on national tv.
22:25 The closest source of water to that dehumidifier is the two sweaty dudes.
They are drinking sweat.
"Our product produces water out of air."
This sounds like a great pitch to anyone who's never looked at their utility bill and seen how cheap water is in comparison to the electricity required to condense it.
Hhh hhh but but what about the desert
Oh yeah got you there bro
Also, I feel like he’s used to that line shocking people. Making the machine sound miraculous. Especially if it’s not common to use dehumidifiers in the UK.
Not only that but you also need to buy a huge and (most likely) very expensive machine
@@catfishlol1498 you mean in low humidity areas????
Thunderf00t: ✨w✨
The first dude literally dressed like a TV mafia boss.
Is that how mafia works?
I was thinking that same thing
Eeeeoooohhh....who ate dah Gaaaaaabagool?!
“I stand humbly before you on the day of your daughter’s wedding...”
Leave the gun, take the canolli
I had a lady pitch a pyramid scheme to me in the parking lot of the grocery store I work at, and one of her biggest selling points was "It's not a pyramid scheme"
If you have to specify it's not a pyramid scheme, it's probably a pyramid scheme.
I imagine it'd be a laugh to say "It's not a pyramidi scheme" when talking about something that's obviously not actually one
@@Lunalite "Would you care to see our wine list? It's not a pyramid scheme."
It's not a pyramid scheme, it's a reverse funnel system.
if someone pitches something to me in a parking lot, im probably not investing lol. It would need to be something extraordinary like investing in their family while they aim a gun to my chest
His pitch sound like the Fizrr script 💉 but a financial 'herd immunity'
Plot twist: that water was just all the sweat they collected while pitching that terrible thing
You can tell it’s legit because his presentation has clip art of a woman smiling and holding wads of cash on it.
🤣
True where can I buy?
@@EpicParrot54115 In your dreams
LMAO
😂
I love how the female host kept saying let him talk. She knew exactly where he was going.
And she backed him into a corner so savagely lmao
She understands how TV works. You gotta be entertaining
@@catkilled "Let him get up, let him get up -- FIGHT BACK"
AKA = give him enough rope........LOL
@@janklowicz24 she also understands that the best way to expose someone is to let them do it themselves
He got scammed by his girlfriend... Goes to show. Pyramid scheme scams don't come in the form of a stranger trying to sell u something, it comes in the form of ur closest allies
Friend from high school I haven't heard from in 10 years..."Hey! We are looking for highly motivated individuals that are trying to make extra money! Why don't I buy you lunch?"
@@BigfootUnibrowMan My girlfriend's old friend tried to get her to join a pyramid scheme with her and offered what you just said. Crazy how people will randomly do crap like that
@@BigfootUnibrowMan Id say take the free lunch and humor yourself listening to their scheme
@@patc9185 that's what I did lmao I got free lunch and coffee and pretended to be interested. It was ACN btw. The dude that was pitching to me was a old college friend 😂 I blocked him the day after
Yeah. Had a coworker that tried to drag me into one of these. I was gonna hear them out until they told me there was a $500 startup fee. Like seriously dude I’m not gonna pay to work for you.
She knew he was about to dig himself a grave in national TV. She said “hold up,
Let him cook” 😂😂
Everyone trying to stop him from digging, and she hands him a shovel. 😂
That female judge is low key hilarious. She even made him draw the pyramid 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hey tbf isn’t that any business?
Got the owner then managers then workers.
Edit: its so funny looking at the comments and seeing so many people taking it so seriously. Maybe your all getting this way because you hate to admit your at bottom. Also nfts are the modern pyramid scheme.
@@Name-ru1kt Uuuhh...no, I think that's the classic pyramid scheme come back.
LMAAAO
@@Name-ru1ktno. the workers actually get paid.
I love how Arlene basically just went "let him cook"
It’s cuz Arlene always gives pitchers the benefit of the doubt but actually she’s a very shrewd businesswoman, just very kind hearted
lol I think she just wanted the amusement of it all god bless her still lol
@benyseus6325 if youre shrewd youre not kind. As the saying goes "let them talk unimpeded and they will show you who they are"
@@twinkiesnails8857 being kind doesn’t mean you’re an idiot. I think knowing when to be kind and when to put your foot down without being rude is a kind of shrewdness
@theladycata9648 i never said it made someone an idiot, i see where your coming from. Being shrewd refers to good judgment, but is negatively connotated as being underhanded or manipulative. What youre describing is having boundaries
Fun fact, the first one: Lyoness actually changed to Lyconet recently and has been fined millions of dollars because of these schemes. The average person wins less than .3 cents a month when the "regular" should be $23 a month. This is very common in Europe and many nations advise against them
A fool and his money shall soon part ways.
@@ChristianF15cher A fool and his money are good friends!
Is that three tenths of a cent?!
@@scottydu81 I'm sure they meant 30 cents, or 3 cents idk haha.
My Boss wanted to take part in this whole cashback BS and we hated it the moment we started working with them. Nothing ever really worked, we invested a whole lot of money and time and in the end cancelled the contract cause they couldn't keep their promises. Wasted half a year on that crap
11:17 all I can think about. Is when Michael from the office is telling Jim it’s not a pyramid scheme. And Jim literally draws a pyramid around what he just explained. 😂
"It's not a pyramid scheme, it's a reverse funnel system."
"Turn it upside down."
ase explain further
Sh*t up, bird 🤣
@@zhibaniola6460 always sunny ref
Goddamn it!
You've been duped!
He didn’t want investors, he wanted people under him😩
I wouldn't mind 5 millionaires with experience running businesses on my downline either 😂
@ its not a business
@@mat4263 nah, I’m pretty sure it’s a business, did you not see his pitch? His Bulgarian exwife on the run clearly knows whats she’s doing, he just needs £175000 and 10 more years to get his investment back
@@mat4263 hes saying that the dragons own businesses. Not that the schemes are businesses. XP
@@ultimateninjaboi r/whoooooshh
As the old saying goes "Its easier to scam someone, but harder to convince someone they have been scammed".
As someone who frequently watches UK Dragons Den, while you could be right about the warm light, the people who do the good, confident, clever pitches almost never sweat at all. These people are very nervous.
The counterintuitive truth is reality tv leaves nothing to chance.
If you want to know why badguys sweat and goodguys don't?
Production.
Why normal people come across as sitcom characters in interviews but normal people after the show ends?
Production
Why people always seem to do stupid things that make no logical sense or goes against common decency
Production.
Everything you see of the final product has been carefully designed, guided, cut, shot, and edited to look, sound, and feel a specific way.
Reality TV is truly a misnomer.
@@GuitarSlayer136music placement is one of the biggest things, oh and cutting multiple angles into a single sequence so it looks like people are staring at each other with an awkward silence.
@@GuitarSlayer136yes. They can just turn on and off the heat 🤷♂️
They can turn it on and off and the investments get evaluated beforehand
Man she hilarious..." let him finish" ----- air draws a pyramid scheme..... I was on the floor.
I can't think of a better way to describe playing with your food before you eat it, lol.
That woman is cold 😆. Her smile when the the guy put up his white board 🤣🤣🤣!!
I love her. She let them make themselves look like fools lmao
lmaooo
Time stamp?
Plot twist, the sweaty guy *IS* the product. You hold a glass under his chin and it fills with water.
I want to Oman and they were selling what claimed to be cans of sweat
Free salt, bro. It comes also with salt. People used to be PAID in SALT! You can package this and it's free for you! Imagine that! Buy now!
The more he sweats the worse the water from the machine tastes. AKA a directly proportional multi-level marketing machine.
Lmao
Low key wanna make a company from purified celebrity sweat. The sweat, you pay the celeb, purify the sweat into drinkable water enriched with minerals, sell a pretty penny a pop and shebam! Stonks.
"It's a pyramid, multi-level direct marketing" What a true veteran through and through 🤣🤣
"Good, old-fashioned..."
Good old fashioned PYRAMID scheme.
He looks like the guy on a sitcom who constantly makes bad choices and gets confused when everyone else thinks they're dumb
One thing about dehumidifiers: Every one of them, built by a reputable company, comes with a warning label telling you not to drink the water inside.
Yeah, its basically distilled water. You can drink it in small amounts, but if you're gonna drink it daily you'd need to add a small amount of minerals to it.
@@nicholasweiss4662 The minerals it does have come from dust that accumulates on the fins and small amounts of metal from the fins which are definitely not good.
Depending on the dehumidifying method there can be lethal amounts of bacteria in it. Some dehumidifiers use cooling to collect the water but certain bacteria thrive in those conditions.
@@EvTheWeebslayer hmmmm I use mine to water plants. I wonder of I should stop doing that?
Jesus I didn't know this, that's horrifying.
It's like seeing an 11 year old trying to explain to his parents where the mysterious charges on moms card came from
😂😂😂
The dog used you credit card.
This has to be staged. There's no way he comes out dressed like that and clearly lays out a pyramid scheme to serious business ppl. Hopefully viewers learned something though, which I think was the point.
The way that they grilled him comes off more as an entertaining PSA than a pitch. I'm with you on this one.
Who would agree to play that role, when it's presented as legit? His rep would be ruined for a one time payment from being on TV.
@@leonardpriestley6822 an actor????? What do you mean
@@leonardpriestley6822 I’m sure his rep as an actor would be ruined
*sarcasm* (since you guys can't read who I am replying too apparently)
It is probably real (otherwise show would have the disclaimer most US reality TV has before being shown in the UK, that its fake, some scenes are added for dramatic affect that one, didnt spot one when Dragons Den US used to be shown over here) it is just the same technique that Got Talent shows use and so on where they are vetted before hand and they get an invite to the show thinking they are being taken serious when really they are just there to be laughed at.
"You should be sweating" LMFAO that had me in tears 🤣. Kevin is a SAVAGE 😂
"It's good old fashioned pyrami- multi level, direct marketing." The man quite literally said it himself.
Straight up! No questions asked.
17:53
I love how they basically re-legalized pyramid schemes with a rebrand
@@carlireland5049 that's what all MLM scams do, they just say we are not technically a scam as we have re defined the word.
As an interpreter this bullshit playing around with language enrages me. We know what you mean - cut it out.
I'm not very well-versed in investing, but I wouldn't feel confident in someone that has to take 10 deep breathes in the middle of their pitch.
Even if the pitch is legit, an apparent lack of rehearsal and mental preparation from the speaker is too amateurish not to take into account.
I feel bad for him. I mean, this is different than public speaking classes but those are proof no matter how prepared you are, when nerves get you it can ruin everything. I also think the lights theory is correct. Performance/entertainment lighting is quite warm, but can be set in a way to make the actors/presenters more warm and less comfortable. I think given the high pressure situation and the produced aspects to make it worse, we should have pity for pyramid scheme man
Almost start to get the impression that this is a cry for help!
What he needed was a glass of water from the second pitch!
@@destroyerinazuma96 True. In this kind of investments, you are investing in a person or team rather than in a product or service. With the right person or team, you will often find the product/service with time.
When you join an MLM, you are not your own boss, or even an employee. You're the raw material.
I have a few friends who got caught in MLM’s and they tried to bring me in numerous times. I hate to say it, but they became drones. They’re all like “how is this a pyramid?” And they make the implication that jobs like the one i have are “the real pyramid scheme. The CEO makes the most money, then the actual employees make much less than them”. And they make seem it so convincing too
@@anthonylong9067 it's so frustrating cos the pyramid scheme is a super ramped up worse version of that already pretty bleak CEO to worker income inequality
@@anthonylong9067 I mean, they're not wrong about how real work is. It does actually work like that 💀
@@anthonylong9067 To be fair they aren't wrong, which is why they aren't aware that they're in a pyramid scheme since their attention is entirely diverted against the current system in place and their ego is being stroked
@@daisy3869 I'd say the difference is that the salary of an employee at a real job is not dependent on said employee recruiting more employees
I want to believe that this man is actually just a genius. He knows he's been scammed, and he's just exposed the scam to the whole world.
Oooh, that's a good point. I really hope that's true cause if so, then this man saw his life falling apart and fgured "if it's gonna collapse, I'm taking the cause of the collapse down with me!"
Growing up poor, this type of stuff was everywhere. And so many people joined not knowing what they got themselves into. Kinda sad lol
In 90's Russia they were everywhere cause they knew police couldn't do jack. And they preyed on people by promising rates higher than the rampant inflation when everyone's retirement savings lost 90+% value once the Soviet Union collapsed.
Our govt offers savings schemes of around 10% a year on a one time deposit (like you cant add progressively). Though you are bound for a 5 year term. Is this good or bad?
@@sayamqazi depends on how reliable/trustworthy they are. On one hand hardly anyone will use this program if the gvt rips you off. On the other, who knows..
@@destroyerinazuma96 it has been going on for like 15 years and they never ripped off. Also depending on the financial state the rates go up and down, at one time the rate was 19% which from what i have gathered about investment is kind of sus. How are they making that money who konws.
@@sayamqazi that's good for you then at least for now.
"I payed $10,000 and haven't seen any returns. But it is a sure fire investment."
“I’m heading toward zero” lol
Scared money don't make money bruh
The “Sunk Cost” fallacy strikes again!
You need to find your four directs
Sounds like college. But cheaper.
I was sitting in a meeting where people were pitching ideas to investors (although not a tv show) in an advisory role(a friend was one of the investors). The saddest thing was one guy and his girlfriend were pitching a pyramid scheme. They had lost 13K already. One of the investors offered them to lend them enough money to get through school and get real jobs. They took the offer and as far as I know the girlfriend is a physiotherapist and the guy jus started studying physics at the local university.
Holly shit that’s amazing
That investor is a saint
Just goes to show, you don’t need to be an idiot to be sucked into a scam.
What a nice person to do that.
typically investors are craven little schmucks, but that guy sounds genuinely good. I got a little bit of my faith in humanity restored.
"It's not a pyramid scheme!"
*10 seconds later*
"So, I'm up here-"
This poor man at the beginning just genuenly starts explainig the pyramid scheme to them, just completely unaware. I really feel bad for this guy, jeesus.
This coming from the greed pfp
Yes he's just escaping reality and ACTIVELY ignoring the huge obvious guilty conciusmess
Greed is easily the best character from Fmab
I've seriously been approached at gas stations like three times. First time, I was young and though "sure, an actual job. I'm looking to switch." Ended up at a Starbucks with a guy explaining what passive income was and at the end telling me there was a conference at a hotel. Learned a lesson that day: ain't nobody gonna offer you a good job while you're pumping gas in basketball shorts
Lmao at the basketball shorts 🤣
🤣🤣🤣
what about no shorts at all
Lmao gold
@@turolretar well then it would depend on what God gave you down there I guess
The easiest way to destroy scams like the first one is by asking simple questions:
1. Where is the money coming from if it's free to sign up?
2. Wich retailers are partnering with your program?
3. Why would any retailer want to take up to a 40% loss in every sale?
4. What do retailers gain by taking that loss?
100% best advice on here. It's not a pyramid scheme by definition but it is a clever scam.
Similar thing with conspiracy theories. First question you should always ask about a conspiracy theory: who makes money off of this? Doesn’t dispel all of them, but it gets the really stupid ones.
@@lisat9707 these days pyramid scheme has been redefined to include this!
@@lisat9707 I think the card is a side show to deflect from the reality that the core business is a pyramid scheme...
@@52flyingbicycles It's NASA that profit from this!!! 🤬🤬🤬
This is without a doubt, one of the best video tutorials on how to turn a 5 minute clip into a 30 minute video.
welcome to the world of react videos
These guys just steal others content in the name of reaction videos. They put no effort in it
@@void_360 do you watch coffezilla videos or not?
@@Apple_BeshyObviously no
@@void_360 not all reaction channels are like that, bro
Not gonna lie, the first dude is a victim and he knows it. He was feeling really bad, and really looked like someone being held at gun point. Probably got paid a lot and realized the mistake too late or he has a VERY severe anxiety...
I don’t think he was aware he’s a victim
Still a scumbag to know you were scammed and bring others into the scam
@@RedsHitpostMedia I don’t think he realized he was being scammed
@@lilithdoyle5703 I have the feeling he realized he was scammed after the interaction with the Dragons, but he decided to ignore it and stick to the illusion, because he invested a lot of money and time into it. 5 stages of grief, really. First one is denial.
I think that seems like an over exaggeration, just a normal amount of nervousness someone in his position should be in
"NEVER pitch a pyramid scheme on Shark Tank, because some judges have their own scams to keep track of"
competition has to be crushed
Like FTX
OOP There it is 🤣 i just said " compared to FTX a pyramid scheme looks pretty good "
😂😂😂😂 indeed
This aged perfectly lmao
Those guys took one look at a dehumidifier, found out that there's water in the waste compartment and thought, "Yeah...I can sell this as drinking water." AND THEN tied it all up as a pyramid scheme.
The boundless creativity of man is not only inspiring but utterly unbelievable.
Not the first time some one did that.
I've seen the water from a dehumidifier....*shudders*
@@FairbrookWingates exactly but it’s easy to fill pythatvhave been dumbed down by our government education system
I want to start a business collecting the sweat of these product pitchers and selling the water.
I know of this scheme . One of my relatives was in it. They literally sold the water filtered out as waste in this aqua filters as drinkable water which can heal . It was at an outrageous price. A fcking scam.
I'm literally dying from second hand embarrassement. 😂😂😂😂
I love how the Dragon's Den woman is like, "Let him finish," while the men are interjecting, then just swoops in with a succinct, "I get it: it's a pyramid scheme."
I knew from the starting what kind of person she was, she's the friend who doesn't bully you w her friends but is actually the worst bully, the one who silently & passively mocks you, but you think she's your friend bc she smiles with you, but at the same time makes you/say or do things that she knows will get you laughed at, bc it's an inside joke when you say or d some certain things with her friends
The DD woman knew from the start it was a pyramid scheme, but didn't want to let the other guy ruin the show to early by telling him no no no let him talk! , not saying she's bad person I love her lmao
@@iidentifyasaPSLGoddess way too specific. Are you okay, guy?
@@dniilii no & yes, but I just watched alot of Disney & mean girl movies growing up
@@iidentifyasaPSLGoddess damn, I remember those shows... It all makes sense now.
@@iidentifyasaPSLGoddess talking about Disney shows cleared a lot up 😭
See kevin is truely the nicest person. He wasnt even going to let that guy get far enough into his pitch to get shamed. There is a hidden kindness in being a arse. One of the many reasons I love watching him break down a bussniss.
And then there's the nice lady, constantly handing him more shovels to dig his own grave with
@@Runix1 The truth hurt, Kevin is actually and Asshole Angel while the other lady is a Nice Devil =))))
in that show where they follow the people after the sharks invest, Kevin is also the best one to invest with. From the episodes I've seen, the other sharks just show up and ask how things are going while Kevin seems very involved through the whole process.
Thats why I like Kevin. He's also honest about who he is in a self assured way.
Idk, to me it seems more like one of those classic alpha business man moves that they did all in the time in the 80s and 90s. It feels like he's trying to pysch him out by shaking his confidence, which tbf they're all clearly insulted and actively hostile to him. It's like going on a Gordon Ramsay show and offering him some leftovers you found in the back of the fridge.
That first dude's first mistake was trusting a 'business opportunity' from his ex wife.
His Hungarian ex wife, lol.
@@7Jstamper the red flag had red flags~
Also look at him. He looks like a shady guy from a random, bad, C-tier movie 🤦♂️
@@leonnunhofer3453 especially with that floppy lispy mouth of his
I'm willing to presume at the time they weren't an "ex-" wife.
I love this 😂😂😂, bring it back man
The ex-wife of the first guy got revenge in the most savage way possible.
I think Arlene is probably one of the wisest people on that board, she lets the guy speak himself into a hole. Never interrupt your enemy when they're making a fool of themselves
One of the laws of power.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake ^-^
“Never make love to a pig”
Sun Tzu
@@ericzamora3449 woah no way
@@michaelpacinus242 laws one power of of the
I've never watched Shark Tank before, but have watched Dragon's Den. I just wanted to say that I love how the woman is like "No, no. Let this man carry on digging his hole".
From what I've seen here, they're really just the exact same thing, just a different name
@@thepassingstatic6268 they're just in a random ass warehouse in dragons den
@@SeriousBusinessman. that could also explain the sweating then
You can tell she smelled the BS as soon as she heard it. She just wanted to let it play out
"Pyramid-multi-level-direct marketing"
As a person who has encountered pyramid schemes, this is the best thing i've heard all year
"It's not Amway, it's Confederated Products..."
Absolutely bonkers. What a beautiful line
"it's good old pyramid multi-level direct marketing"
i think that guy just got the world record for the red flags any% speedrun
Even his buddy was like "dude! Shut up!"
I literally couldn’t believe my ears when he said that. Like how are you gonna use every red flag in the book all in just ONE sentence?!?!
He's second place, i dated a girl i met at an asylum after my suicide attempt who uninvited me to her birthday party to fuck my gay guy friends.
That was a feild so full of red flags it looked like a coke addicted land surveyors last day on the job.
He might as well said "its a Sham, Scam, Fraud marketing scheme"
This is a 100% not any%
You KNOW the producers of the show, while screening potential people to pitch on the show, saw these auditions and were like "Ohhh the investors would have a field day with them, get the on the show!"
Well yea..thats their job..
American Idol formula. In which the pre-screened contestants are even TOLD before they first see the judges, "Some of you are here because you're really good, some of you are here because you're really bad..."
And then those really bad people STILL act surprised...
I feel bad since most of them are too dumb to know what they got themselves into, but of course the sharks/dragons won't be the ones to dig them out since it's not that kind of show. Maybe in a different scenario, but they're in "investment mode". I wish rich people would be in "charity mode" more often, but such is the way of the world.
"This'll be funny."
That is BRUTAL, dude 😂
"Can't be a green screen I'm wearing green"
Coffee we can see the spillage
This woman is like a patient teacher trying to explain to her student what a pyramid is.
Oh no she's having fun
When she said let him speak... bro the way she said it...
She wanted to have fun that day.
@aziouss2863 same vibes as "let her cook"
She wanted to cook
I appreciate The Dragon’s den let this guy make a pitch so that people could see how to dissect a bad deal
That is why I love the womanin red because she wanted to let hik finish so she can properly deflect it.
Absolutely yes !
I’m just highly amused by these guys getting destroyed. I’m I a bad person?
Shark tank has done it as well. Some dude pitched a machine that makes gold
Same here! I'm glad the dragons let the first guy finish his pitch so they could dissect it afterward & explain to the audience exactly why it's a big old scam. I think it's great how they help people identify the way pyramid schemes (or "multi-level marketing" schemes, as they're now called) are commonly pitched, so that the folks watching this show at home don't fall prey to horrible scams like this.
I find it hilarious that the name of the show changes to a different animal and different location in other countries. In Denmark it's a Lion's Den, in Germany a Lion's Cave, in Romania it's a Lion's Arena, in Croatia it's a Dragon's Nest, in Japan it's Money Tigers, in Sri Lanka it's a Wall of Tuskers and the French just ask "Who wants to be my business partner?"
Wonder what that says about the French 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
And in the US it’s Shark Tank 🦈
Idioms are a wonderful thing!
What the fucks a tusker?
@@CH-ns4gv A male elephant with large tusks.
Arlene is so hilarious. She like, instantly knew he was full of shit & instead of calling him on it she said "no no no i wanna see where this is going."
She knew where it was going. She just wanted to see playing out before the others would ruin it
They should have used the first guy to investigate whos at the top of the pyramid scheme, so at least we get a happy ending because its just sad watching him trying to save the sinking boat hes in
I agree. He wants that money to pay back what he took out against his house I guess
Yeah poor guy.
Hubert Friedl is the current CEO and owner. Kevin was definitely someone who got scammed HARD.
I am 85, retired, look like I have money, and am constantly approached by people trying to sell me an MLM! I just let them pitch and then waste as much of their time as I can. In fact
I keep notes and write what really works best. Just a way to use up a boring day!
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Love that! Great work saving people who could be scammed in that meantime!
Nancy doing gods work 😭💀
W Nanny
That lady helping him dig his own grave while smiling seemed the most intelligent person in the room ngl.
She handed him rope. He could have used it to pull himself out, or at least admit he got scammed, but instead he just used it to hang himself.
she is the most savage there by showing niceness. the others were dead stopping him before he could explain, that's why he keeps on mumbling while the lady let's him finish then delivers the killing blow.
Kevin knew he just was trying to help the guy
@@chrischan3939 he wanted to stop him before he committed suicide
Other dudes don't want their time wasted, she just wants to
The first one is so bad that it feels scripted/fake
Der Multilinguale Boss 👌🏻
They are fake 😂
@@JackHGUK They aren't actually there's real companies that have started from dragons den. Ever heard of wealthsimple? There's a ton of legit companies that started from this show.
I've heard that the producers always prepare one company each episode that they know the Dragons/Sharks will tear apart. One of those reality show meddling to make it interesting.
@@pricklycatsss Yos great company to
First time to this channel. I want to say that I was totally absorbed by the two strands of hair clinging to the foam surrounding the microphone. I was so hyper aware of these two hairs that from 9:49 to 9:51, three entire seconds, I was laser-focused on the fact that this could be their end! It was entirely feasible that Coffeezilla could have dislodged them, brushed them off, completely breaking the force which bound these two hairs to the black foam. He failed. It was unsuccessful. So, I continued watching this video, lost within black foam, watching two clinging strands of hair defy all efforts of removal while successfully grabbing the mental and emotional attention of their audience. An audience of one. Me. What a badass video! I never imagined, until today, that two strands of motionless hair could be so entertaining. Thanks.
The first guy was being scammed and didn’t realize it until he started explaining it to the dragons. I feel bad for him and I’m getting anxiety just watching it.
He didn't realize how deep he was in it until he was.
Looks like up person told him to go so can't get free publicity
@@the_expidition427 Also, how below the pyramid he was 😅