My sincere thanks. I'm 75 and it's a privilege to hear Dr. Finkelstein and read his books. I value the information he provides and because of his honesty, frankness, and humility there is always even more for me to reflect on after listening to him speak or reading what he has written. Such extraordinary language skills and quick thinking ability and recall are inspiring and give me greater incentive to use what I have and to develop it as much as possible. With every best wish and a heartfelt Thank You! TM in Chicago
Dr. Finkelstien I am a Palastinian that grew up poor but at the end of the day I had some to eat, I can’t imagine what your mother has gone through and the people of Gaza are going through now . Thank you so much for courage and the way you stand for humanity.
What qualifies him..What qualifies him. You should be respectful to your guest. Especially one such as this guest. He is deserving of one's respect. Period!
Norman, I am an American Muslim and I honestly believe you are one of the greatest human being alive. I wish you all the best in this life and a reward in the hereafter.
I am an American atheist and I hope that my generation and younger will result in a totally different policy towards Palestine and Israel and the Muslim world in general
I do not believe the United States will truly be free until all lobby groups that put the interests of foreign nations over the interests of Americans are dealt with.
My mother was a child of WWII. She always remembered being hungry as a child and later as a college student, even after the victory of 1945. Thank you, Dr. Finkelstein, for being true to your mother's memory and for keeping your integrity no matter what. Not many people are strong enough to not waiver from the truth these days.
My mother supports the jen-o-side in Gaza. If she had lived in 1930s Germany, she would have supported that one too. She is pure evil and there are millions like her in the USA.
My grandfather always mentions the hunger from the work camps. Being half polish and half Palestinian has given me a quote unique outlook on how lucky I am to have all the basic necessities of life, but almost feel guilty for such at time. Super sad.
I just love the clarity and honesty of his speech. People complain that he speaks too slow, but it is because he gives value to each and every word that comes out of his mouth. And you can tell that because his words deeply resonate. He is like a writer, carefully and methodically crafting the narrative of his story so that it will reach us without any shadows or gaps. I've got now three of his books and each one is an academic masterpiece. Thanks for your hard work Mr. Finkelstein.
You trolls like opinions and always seem to disregard facts. It is YOUR DUTY to read up before expressing your opinions: FACT 1. The West soundly W.O.N. WW1 and WW2 by defeating evil empires (like truly evil) such as the Nazis, Japan and even the Ottoman Empire. GET OVER IT! FACT 2. The West could do what it wanted with conquered territories, such as the British Mandate of Palestine (much bigger than todays Israel!). It was given to the Jews. GET OVER IT! FACT 3. The West or Israel did not create Gaza; a so called "open air prison". It was Egypt after l.o.s.i.n.g the 1947/1948 wars it started with Jordan & Syria against Israel. GET OVER IT! FACT 4. Finkelstein is not a tenured professor. His H-index (quantity & quality of research) is lower than mine even. SEE THROUGH HIS BS! His calm tone means nothing when what he says are mere opinions and sometimes borderline alternative facts and conspiracies. One less apparent example: His analogies about slave revolts in the US, which were indeed juste causes, are misplaced, misleading and even inappropriate considering the above facts (Egypt made Gaza what it is) and spreading terror, jihad, or religion is not a juste cause in the first place!
His pace and clarity is appreciated by us, those whose fisrt language is not English and so we appreciate The great professor hugely in our parts of the world
As a Jew whose ancestors were murdered by the Nazis, Professor Finkelstein is a shining example of what the rest of us Jews should strive to be: truly learned and moral Jewish citizens of the world. The mainstream Jewish attitude towards what is happening in Israel-Gaza (and the West Bank), the callousness and lack of empathy, fills me with shame and despair. NEVER AGAIN = NEVER AGAIN FOR ANYBODY!
He is a true Jew that OBEY's YHWH COVENANT and follows Torah Scripture LEVITICUS 19:33.34 in the treatment of those who dwell alongside Jews in the land .
They are anty Jws as Norm calls them. “The fals6 vine: The ‘sina.gog” of ‘Say.tan’ who say they are Jws but are liars.”Rev 3.9 Anyone with morals or any humanity would say the same as you: Never again for anybody!
We know that the majority of the Jewish people are very good people who want peace for the Palestinians but the Politics of Hertzel is the criminal ideology which will be the fall of the Jewish state.
Didn't really know anything about israel and gaza till this war. Professor Finkelstein explains the history in a way that everyone can understand. This man deserves a noble peace prize for sticking with it for 40 years. He's my hero.
Your ignorance was deliberate public policy. They don't want you to know what is really happening. The US is now ranked 29th in literacy, behind Bolivia.
Well, not everyone. There are many who refuse to focus on anything other than Oct 7. Many believe the conflict is mainly over border lines... And that's become the very least of things for the Palestinians
I have thought about having my own YT channel just so I can talk to him. I've known only a handful of people in my nearly 60 years that use language and words so precisely. Every word he speaks is said for its meaning. There's no fluff, at least when he speaks on this topic
Corporate Media can not handle, listening to this truth & if they were tempted to do so, their Puppet Masters, would veto it! The "love of money" corrupts ALL. --------- Psalm 37.
In an odd way Norman Finkelstein may have benefited from not appearing on Main Stream Media channels. Wouldn't he have been cut short by the interviewers? Especially those being told by producers to bring in some pro-Israeli Government apologist to "balance" the discussion?
That will never happen. He would topple the entire msm and expose them for the lying liars who have been lying to the American people for the past 8 decades.
When I listen to people like Professor Norman Finkelstein, it gives me hope that humanity is still out there... what a professional and intelligent person he is. Legend!
Everything that is being said,,, is One Sided,,, 😔😔😔 Basically,, this is a Religious Conflict between the Imperial minded Islam and Judaism, that began with “Prophet Mo Himself. The land of Israel for 1,400 years, has been an “Islamic” land,,, Pls imagine the Rest of this “Human Conflict” (That is Stupid Humans),,, 🌷🌷🇮🇱🌷😔🙏
You notice that Finklestein is always on smaller channels speaking out for the suffering of Gaza and laying the facts straight - that's probably why you don't see him on corporate media - he would destroy their lies. Much appreciation and respect
It was nice to see him on the Candace Owens Podcast! Whether or not you're right wing (I am not), it's always positive to see someone like him on a platform with a larger audience.
"The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses." - Malcolm X
They never say Stain was evil (Russian Jew) or Lenin (Russian Jew) or Troksky (Russian Jew) All Marxists, always Marxist. The ones who killed over 60 MILLION.
Why Norman Finkelstein, who has been a vocal supporter of Palestinian Arab rights for decades, believes the BDS movement is dishonest and actually seeks the destruction of Israel. "I’ve earned my right to speak my mind, and I’m not going to tolerate what I think is silliness, childishness, and a lot of leftist posturing. I mean we have to be honest, and I loathe the disingenuous. They don’t want Israel. They think they are being very clever; they call it their three-tier. We want the end of the occupation, the right of return, and we want equal rights for Arabs in Israel. And they think they are very clever because they know the result of implementing all three is what, what is the result? You know and I know what the result is. There’s no Israel! And if you don’t want the same framework then stop talking about the law and stop trying to be so clever. Because you’re only so clever in your cult. The moment you step out you have to deal with Israeli propaganda. And here they have a case. They say no they’re not really talking about rights. They’re talking about they want to destroy Israel. And in fact I think they’re right I think that’s true. I’m not going to lie. But this kind of duplicity and disingenuous, “oh we’re agnostic about Israel.” No you’re not agnostic! You don’t want it! Then just say it! But they know full well: If you say it you don’t have a prayer reaching a broad public. Because that’s where the public is right now."
Why Norman Finkelstein, who has been a vocal supporter of Palestinian Arab rights for decades, believes the BDS movement is dishonest and actually seeks the destruction of Israel. "I’ve earned my right to speak my mind, and I’m not going to tolerate what I think is silliness, childishness, and a lot of leftist posturing. I mean we have to be honest, and I loathe the disingenuous. They don’t want Israel. They think they are being very clever; they call it their three-tier. We want the end of the occupation, the right of return, and we want equal rights for Arabs in Israel. And they think they are very clever because they know the result of implementing all three is what, what is the result? You know and I know what the result is. There’s no Israel! And if you don’t want the same framework then stop talking about the law and stop trying to be so clever. Because you’re only so clever in your cult. The moment you step out you have to deal with Israeli propaganda. And here they have a case. They say no they’re not really talking about rights. They’re talking about they want to destroy Israel. And in fact I think they’re right I think that’s true. I’m not going to lie. But this kind of duplicity and disingenuous, “oh we’re agnostic about Israel.” No you’re not agnostic! You don’t want it! Then just say it! But they know full well: If you say it you don’t have a prayer reaching a broad public. Because that’s where the public is right now."
Mr Finklestein, as a Native American I see a correlation between the occupation of Gaza to the tribes in America. It would be an honor to invite you and speak to the Great Navajo Nation tribal members about the history of Palestians. I respect you...AHOO!
Yes, for five hundred years the Western Europeans colonized the entire world. They slaughtered the indigenous people and destroyed their cultures. To this day Western countries pride themselves on their human values and superior culture. We are complete hypocrites.
Yeah, it just seems wrong to call such a wicked government Jewish. Especially after so many centuries of Europe's Jewish communities doing *so* much to right the wrongs of the world, to oppose imperialism and resist capitalism, and feudalism before it. Granted they participated in a lot of that stuff as well but I would say that they're a vital, dynamic and admirable part of European history and I think it's downright criminal to say they're tied to or responsible for, the crimes of the state of Israel. Their insistence of maintaining a distinct identity in the face of the most powerful empires in history is exactly the kind of stubbornness I love. They thumbed their noses at the romans, the Russians, the british, the French, and the germans, and the Spanish, and kept on being them. Imagine the temerity,the creativity, and audacity that took, generation after generation of righteously indignant folks. Zionism was a terrible idea and if Theodore Herzl was still alive I would slap him for coming up with it.
@@seekingabsolution1907 yeah, Germany could use the same exact argument. They’re a major contributor to European culture, to art, to science, to classical music… Russia, could sing you the same song. It’s a majestic and a noble country. Its people are proud, strong, resilient, inventive, humane… I don’t think less of the Jewish community. It’s not about the people and the culture. It’s about politics, radicalism and propaganda on both sides. And one of them being overwhelmingly powerful. Israel’s government is reckless, volatile. They put themselves, the Israeli people and the whole world peace in peril. They don’t care about the hostage. They want Gaza, wiped out.
You trolls like opinions and always seem to disregard facts. It is YOUR DUTY to read up before expressing your opinions: FACT 1. The West soundly W.O.N. WW1 and WW2 by defeating evil empires (like truly evil) such as the Nazis, Japan and even the Ottoman Empire. GET OVER IT! FACT 2. The West could do what it wanted with conquered territories, such as the British Mandate of Palestine (much bigger than todays Israel!). It was given to the Jews. GET OVER IT! FACT 3. The West or Israel did not create Gaza; a so called "open air prison". It was Egypt after l.o.s.i.n.g the 1947/1948 wars it started with Jordan & Syria against Israel. GET OVER IT! FACT 4. Finkelstein is not a tenured professor. His H-index (quantity & quality of research) is lower than mine even. SEE THROUGH HIS BS! His calm tone means nothing when what he says are mere opinions and sometimes borderline alternative facts and conspiracies. One less apparent example: His analogies about slave revolts in the US, which were indeed juste causes, are misplaced, misleading and even inappropriate considering the above facts (Egypt made Gaza what it is) and spreading terror, jihad, or religion is not a juste cause in the first place!
Everything that is being said,,, is One Sided,,, 😔😔😔 Basically,, this is a Religious Conflict between the Imperial minded Islam and Judaism, that began with “Prophet Mo Himself. The land of Israel for 1,400 years, has been an “Islamic” land,,, Pls imagine the Rest of this “Human Conflict” (That is Stupid Humans),,, 🌷🌷🇮🇱🌷😔🙏
@@rooks4ever Yes. When tens of thousands of people are “gone” within a few months, yet nobody is allowed to tell the truth, they can only repeat Pissraeli lies that allow the Pissraelis to continue “mowing the lawn,” it doesn’t give hope to the truth tellers. The truth is starting to seep through though, people are starting to question why the thousands of lies they’re being told isn’t adding up
Herr Norman Finkelstein Ihnen alles möglichst Gute. Gesundheit. Vielen vielen Dank fuer ihren Einsatz in Ihrem Leben fuer Palästina und fuer die Palästinenser. Thank you very very much .
What a joy to listen to someone who can explain a situation with such eloquence and clarity without a hint of self promotion. No looking for "likes" or subscribers here. Thank you Norman. I wish everyone in the world could listen to this interview. And thank you for stating what to me has been obvious for a long time: If the Israeli people didn't want Netanyahu in power, he would not be there.
I can't trust him. He just here to embellish the Jews and make us believe that Zionists are not Jewish. From where did the Zionists take their ideology?
Joe and Norman. I am a 81 year old male in Australia and in 1970, as a casual supporter of Israel, I was threatened by Zionists in NZ to be burned alive, along with my entire household, for the crime of publishing an article "The Arab Side of the Story". As it happened, and unknown to me, one of my house mates was Jewish. His father, a Rabbi, and also the Lord Mayor of Auckland, Sir Dove Meyer Robinson, saved my life. Thenceforth, my geopolitical educators were Jewish... Peter Meyer, Israel Shamir, Gilad Atzmon, Schlomo Zand, members of JStreet, of Yesh G'Val, and so many others. I am also a musician, writer, author, researcher, transcultural interpreter, and functionary of many other roles and I am naturally attracted to Jews. Even the women, for their beauty and spirit. So it would be a little silly to accuse me of anti-semitism. Yet I am targeted by Zionists. I am to be destroyed. At least four death threats, some of these actual attempts, to kill me. I have drawn attention to the issue of DNA and the lack of Semitic DNA among Zionists; which are the control element of Israel. After a dozen kill attempts I have no fear of death. Never have; never will. But I have evolved to put together information to guide humany towards peace after WWIII has ended. I need to present this to the world before I die. Sky News is Zionist leader Rupert Murdoch's flag ship, especially in Australia and they will soon target me because I can prove Rupert's criminality. Are you able to proselytise the recent speeches of Norman Finklestein, and also Naomi Klein at the NY protest meet... in Australia. i have no idea how you can do this but that is what we need to overcome the Murdoch, Frank Lowy, Ross Garnau stranglehold on Australian media. Kindest regards, Tony Ryan (tonyryan43@gmail.com)
It's crazy a little learn so small people are arguing over millions of miles away. You being so far away but somehow caught up in the drama. Maybe the world will be more peaceful if things were localized and no one else got involved.
Victims card can strike far away since majority are dual citizen,mainstream media owners,and have the biggest lobby all in the US and Europe.The rest of the world work under the big guys If they threatened to destroy is wise to decument and make aware of others what is going on otherwise if you silent it can mean it never happens although it happens to you. Please write about" perfect book" @@kaydunton9303
Norman: You are an inspiring Spirit. All your interviews have been shared with Palestinians in Jerusalem, Westbank and many in Gaza. We are so proud to learn from you and certainly hold your honesty, humanity, sensitivity, and courage and more and more.
The best interview with Norman just yet. The host is superb; Asked challenging questions but gave space for the answers. Giving listeners a real conversation and dialogue that was illuminating! Bravo, Politics Joe, Well done !
Nope, not “bravo, Politics Joe!” The questions weren’t “challenging.” The questions were framed in a way that betrayed this guy’s uninformed and thoroughly propagandized view of the issues at hand, and frankly, are offensive in their delivery and their implied content.
Not that any of those questions are a problem for Prof. Finkelstein. He eats implications like these for breakfast. Swats them down like flies. He’s an intellectual Michael Jordan. He dominates the court without even trying.
@@yousreyakhalil5238 Then you should dig into all the misconceptions he has about the conflict. Even when praising Benny morris work, sitting in front on him, Benny has to point out he is misunderstanding his own work and the complexity of the conflict. In a typical austistic way Norm displays a black and white lens of reality.
You trolls like opinions and always seem to disregard facts. It is YOUR DUTY to read up before expressing your opinions: FACT 1. The West soundly W.O.N. WW1 and WW2 by defeating evil empires (like truly evil) such as the Nazis, Japan and even the Ottoman Empire. GET OVER IT! FACT 2. The West could do what it wanted with conquered territories, such as the British Mandate of Palestine (much bigger than todays Israel!). It was given to the Jews. GET OVER IT! FACT 3. The West or Israel did not create Gaza; a so called "open air prison". It was Egypt after l.o.s.i.n.g the 1947/1948 wars it started with Jordan & Syria against Israel. GET OVER IT! FACT 4. Finkelstein is not a tenured professor. His H-index (quantity & quality of research) is lower than mine even. SEE THROUGH HIS BS! His calm tone means nothing when what he says are mere opinions and sometimes borderline alternative facts and conspiracies. One less apparent example: His analogies about slave revolts in the US, which were indeed juste causes, are misplaced, misleading and even inappropriate considering the above facts (Egypt made Gaza what it is) and spreading terror, jihad, or religion is not a juste cause in the first place!
This is something everyone should hear to clearly understand why the Palestinian people would snap and want to break free and do anything as they are desperate to be FREE of this oppression. Thank you for your truth. 🇵🇸💖🇵🇸
Norman's intellect paired with his deep, deep humanity and compassion is truly a winning combination. His description of Blair is both terrifying and funny at the same time. What a gem.
I am the son of two kids growing into the Nazi system (both born 1924). Listening to Norm Finkelstein helps me to understand the meanderings of my own disturbed mind and how I got there. Thanks so much for that.
No no no you are needed, ever so needed Norman!!! I feel your pain… all the more because I myself have been traumatized by violence. I have found solace in your words, your un quivering humanity and your profound humility. I also enjoy your humor & yes, you do speak slowly because every word you utter is important!!
He don’t look very good . Year or two is my guess . Oh well . He maybe has 72 ? Virgins waiting for him if he hurries up and reverts ? Converts ? Course they would have be under 9 ? How old was Aisha again when you know ..
God Bless you Dr. FINKELSTEIN. I HAVE READ ALL YOUR BOOKS. YOU ARE A TREASURE OF HUMANITY. I FEEL SO INCREDIBLY BLESSED TO HAVE HEARD AND READ YOUR WORDS. PLEASE NEVER LOSE FAITH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU THANK YOU.
Norman Finkelstein always makes me cry. I thank him profoundly for documenting this in detail and I'm glad he happens to be alive so he can see it wasn't a futile effort. I hope he keeps being alive for when Palestine gets freed by its captors and killers.
Yes some never get to see the fruits of their labor and effort. I don't think Israel will exist much longer. If nothing else the economy is failing and many are leaving, despite what western media is telling us.
When listening to Finklestein debate Dershowitz and others who view Israel as completely guiltless, it is profoundly clear who has studied the situation and subject of Palestine-Israel with an unbiased and reasoned mind. Thanks to Dr. Finklestein for his academic acumen and expertise on the history of Palestine and Israel.
Dear Dr Finkelstein, I feel that whatever I am going to say in response to your passionate, thorough and utterly pertinent contribution, it is not going to describe the intensity of my reaction to it. I gave myself some time to organise my thoughts before commenting by doing some ordinary daily tasks. In spite of it, four hours after watching this video, I am still deeply affected by much of what you share, describe and report. I am a contemporary of yours. I recognise some of what you describe as similar to my own childhood experience, albeit very different as well. One thing that resonates is the powerful presence of a mother whose experience to an important extent determined my own political development. It is the 4th of May, the official commemoration day here in the Netherlands. Tonight we will have a two minutes national silence in memory of all those whom died in ww 2. As a young woman I used to go to a memorial site of ordinary neighbourhood lads whom had been killed as they were resisting the invaders. I remember taking lilacs. People honour in their own way for reasons of their own. Tonight will be different from any previous commemoration as many people will be thinking of the atrocities committed against the Palestinian people. Yet I do not think a mention will be made of it. We'll see. I lived in the UK under Tony Blair when Irak was invaded. I remember how I observed with growing dread and disbelief how the fable of 'weapons of mass destruction,' was rolled out. I remember Dr.David Kelly. I remember his visit to Irak to investigate and I remember his suicide. Do I need to say more? Lastly, I have only last week come upon you via you tube and am grateful for now knowing about your existence. Listening to you and some of your interviewers, I felt at times that I was back in the seventies and hearing the same political language again. A language that has been under attack and, I thought, was nowhere to be found anymore. I cannot thank you enough. Lastly, for real this time, I want to take a risk here and ask you to look after yourself. I know I am at risk of being accused of sounding condescending, motherly and or interfering, but really I am being selfish here. I want you to stay alive and have more time enjoy your aliveness and comradeship. Thank you.
'I am the world's leading authority on Gaza, ... by virtue of the fact that I am the only one.' Thank you, professor, for having persisted becoming the leading authority on Gaza when there was little material or immaterial to gain doing so.
Actually I think there are two if you count Miko Peled, author of The General's Son, whose grandfather was top Zionist general in 1948 and father top Zionist general in 1967 war. Miko Peled was himself a Captain in the IDF, but renounced it and has participated in most Palestinian protests over the years. Has many TH-cam videos.
Greetings from South Africa. My dear Norm, you are a true mensch. Your conscience, dedication & hard work shine through. Providence granted you all that in preparation for this moment in time. May the remainder of your life be truly blessed.
Everything that is being said,,, is One Sided,,, 😔😔😔 Basically,, this is a Religious Conflict between the Imperial minded Islam and Judaism, that began with “Prophet Mo Himself. The land of Israel for 1,400 years, has been an “Islamic” land,,, Pls imagine the Rest of this “Human Conflict” (That is Stupid Humans),,, 🌷🌷🇮🇱🌷😔🙏
"Mostly civilians" - Incorrect On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians. Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1 According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total. On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1 When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1 From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations. A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower. The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest. The reported ages of the victims are as follows: 0-4: 2 civilians 5-12: 8 civilians 13-17: 14 civilians 18-25: 132 civilians 26-40: 119 civilians 41-60: 55 civilians 61+: 40 civilians Active duty military personnel: 18-25: 258 active duty military personnel 26-40: 60 active duty military personnel 41-60: 17 active duty military personnel 61+: 1 active duty military personnel They are following scripture, the word עוֹלֵל, ʿôlēl which means 'Babe, infant, little one, a suckling' occurs 21 King James Bible Verses Of these verses: “Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” -Psalm 137:9 “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”-1 Samuel 15:3 “Therefore I am full of the fury of the LORD; I am weary with holding in: I will pour it out upon the children abroad, and upon the assembly of young men together: for even the husband with the wife shall be taken, the aged with him that is full of days.” -Jeremiah 6:11 “Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.” -Hosea 13:16 The other verses are not much different. Infact it is always in association with violence. Indeed these verses are the reason why in the Crusades the sense of pious rejoicing at massacre does not appear to be the product of later theologizing; it is also found, in the account of the eye-witness Raymond of Aguilers: “in the Temple and porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.” In fact, Raymond continues, “This day, I say, will be famous in all future ages, for it turned our labours and sorrows into joy and exultation; this day, I say, marks the justification of all Christianity, the humiliation of paganism, and the renewal of our faith.” Another account by a chronicler and eyewitness-priest, Albert of Aachen, describes the killing of fleeing women, and depicts crusaders as:: “seizing [infants who were still suckling] by the soles of their feet from their mothers’ laps or their cradles…and dashing them against the walls or lintels of the doors and breaking their necks […] they were sparing absolutely no gentile of any age or kind.”The incoherence inherent in a stranger to Abraham calling the children of Abraham gentiles notwithstanding, this account evokes the very same Psalm 137:9 imprecation against Babylon, in Latin, “beatus qui tenebit et adlidet parvulos tuos ad petram.” This is the polar opposite in the Quran in Surah Al-Tanwir, literally "The Englightenining" Surah, Aya 8-9, we have the death of a newborn is mentioned amongst the penultimate signs of the end of times, emphasizing the gravity of such an action. That child, now resurrected, is asked for what wrong doing was she murdered. This is to emphasize that she had done nothing wrong, for she had done nothing wrong and this is the day of retribution where those who omitted the evil are to be punished. This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190, which exhorts to fight unbelievers and not be "Aggressors", in the commentary of what it means to be aggressors, this was stated Al-Hasan Al-Basri stated that transgression (indicated by the Ayah): "includes mutilating the dead, theft (from the captured goods), killing women, children and old people who do not participate in warfare, killing priests and residents of houses of worship, burning down trees and killing animals without real benefit." This is also the opinion of Ibn `Abbas, `Umar bin `Abdul-`Aziz, Muqatil bin Hayyan and others. Muslim recorded in his Sahih that Buraydah narrated that Allah's Messenger said: "Fight for the sake of Allah and fight those who disbelieve in Allah. Fight, but do not steal, commit treachery, mutilate, or kill a child, or those who reside in houses of worship." It is reported in the Two Sahihs that Ibn `Umar said, "The Prophet forbade killing women and children." بابتداء القتال أو بقتال من نهيتم عن قتاله من النساء والشيوخ والصبيان والذين بينكم وبينهم عهد أو بالمثلة أو بالمفاجأة من غير دعوة "To kill those whom you were forbidden to from women, elderly, children and those whom betwixt you is a treaty or custom or by surprise or without cause" -Tafsir Al-Zamakshari of the meaning of Aggressors in the Aya More hadith from Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah: حَدَّثَنَا حُمَيْدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ شَيْخٍ، مِنْ أَهْلِ الْمَدِينَةِ مَوْلَى لِبَنِي عَبْدِ الْأَشْهَلِ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَانَ إِذَا بَعَثَ جُيُوشَهُ قَالَ: «§لَا تَقْتُلُوا أَصْحَابَ الصَّوَامِعِ» "Do not kill the dwellers of monasteries" حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ فُضَيْلٍ، عَنْ جُوَيْبِرٍ، عَنِ الضَّحَّاكِ قَالَ: كَانَ «§يُنْهَى عَنْ قَتْلِ الْمَرْأَةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ» سَعْدٍ قَالَ: «§نَهَى رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَنْ قَتْلِ النِّسَاءِ وَالذُّرِّيَّةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ الَّذِي لَا حَرَاكَ بِهِ» "The prophet forbids the killing of women, children, and the elderly" This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Anfal Ayah 61 in which even oath breaking deniers/unbelievers are allowed to sue for peace states if the unbelievers they ask for peace, give it to them. The modifiable testament testament commands indiscriminate killing, genocide, plunder, mutilation, enslavement, or torture of enemies, including women, on the other hand.Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190 limits war to those who fight against Muslims, prohibits transgression, and implies respect for human dignity and life Indeed it is what precedes the famous "sword verse", always cited out of context. God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.
@@mznxbcv12345 are you a writer? Please listen to the guy asking/suggesting that you to put this clear and thorough comment in the main comments section and not as a reply where only 2-3people will see maximum. You summed up a lot for us! the non muslims will understand well the first part. The theologians and Muslims will understand also the second part regarding the comparison of religious text on issues of war. It seems all the UN charter regarding rules of engagement in war was written by muslims rwho knew the Koran especially when you read the verses of the quran that you have mention. Compare that with the Amalek scripts that the izzy lunatics quote all the time. you know these scripts are man made scripts as God will never order anyone to unlive innocent babies or end and destroy animals who will not fight anyone as what can an ass do to you?
You trolls like opinions and always seem to disregard facts. It is YOUR DUTY to read up before expressing your opinions: FACT 1. The West soundly W.O.N. WW1 and WW2 by defeating evil empires (like truly evil) such as the Nazis, Japan and even the Ottoman Empire. GET OVER IT! FACT 2. The West could do what it wanted with conquered territories, such as the British Mandate of Palestine (much bigger than todays Israel!). It was given to the Jews. GET OVER IT! FACT 3. The West or Israel did not create Gaza; a so called "open air prison". It was Egypt after l.o.s.i.n.g the 1947/1948 wars it started with Jordan & Syria against Israel. GET OVER IT! FACT 4. Finkelstein is not a tenured professor. His H-index (quantity & quality of research) is lower than mine even. SEE THROUGH HIS BS! His calm tone means nothing when what he says are mere opinions and sometimes borderline alternative facts and conspiracies. One less apparent example: His analogies about slave revolts in the US, which were indeed juste causes, are misplaced, misleading and even inappropriate considering the above facts (Egypt made Gaza what it is) and spreading terror, jihad, or religion is not a juste cause in the first place!
Great observation but they are calling him a self hating jew just like they’re calling Ilan Pappe, Avi Shleim, Miko Peled, Gabor matte, Tony Greenstein and few others. What a farse!
@@karleone28 yea you are right. He attacks them with facts, historical recounts, and evidence from neutral organizations like the UN. Filthy strategy tbh
Dr Fenklstein, I love your heart, your truth your courage to speak to evildoers. You are a gift to humanity. I am a African American Muslim woman grandfather born late 1800S was a blk jew spoke Hebrew and had a kosher home. My grandfather died in early 60s. I worked with many Jewish people for over 30 yrs I enjoyed who they were and was even invited to Israel one year by a woman who I worked with. This is horrifying what is happening to all in Palestine. May God help humanity and we can end this madness on earth. Peace and blessings.
What an amazing talk by Norman......yet again your knowledge and clear thinking has been worth every second of viewing....I will watch again to absorb your words.....
Everything that is being said,,, is One Sided,,, 😔😔😔 Basically,, this is a Religious Conflict between the Imperial minded Islam and Judaism, that began with “Prophet Mo Himself. The land of Israel for 1,400 years, has been an “Islamic” land,,, Pls imagine the Rest of this “Human Conflict” (That is Stupid Humans),,, 🌷🌷🇮🇱🌷😔🙏
@@lukestrawwalker his big lie was that bambing 10,000 little children to death is lunacy. no its not. its for the safety and security of israel. those kids dont matter. israel security is what matters.
What’s your view of the war on Gaza? How is everyone holding up regarding those lost hostages. I hope they can be returned all safe and sound. I really want the massacre and starvation in Gaza to stop. So many children weren’t even alive when Hamas took over power in 2006.
"The Nazis made me afraid to be a Jew, and the Israelis make me ashamed to be a Jew". Dr. Shahak was an Israeli professor of organic chemistry, a Holocaust survivor and a civil rights advocate and activist.
i feel sorry for the many jewish people who have their identity being used as an excuse for such atrocities. zionism is detrimental to EVERYONE even the people they claim they are
Until the end of civilization on this plant Norman's courageous articulation of the truth of these matters will stand alone in the history of humanity. Few of us ordinary mortals have the knowledge even less the courage of Norman Finkelstein! Shalom, Kilroy NYC
Palestinian children - before this 55% of Palestinians were 18 and younger. So, who are they are killing? Palestinian underage children arrested and tried in military tribunals and held in military adult prisons. Ilegal.
Everything that is being said,,, is One Sided,,, 😔😔😔 Basically,, this is a Religious Conflict between the Imperial minded Islam and Judaism, that began with “Prophet Mo Himself. The land of Israel for 1,400 years, has been an “Islamic” land,,, Pls imagine the Rest of this “Human Conflict” (That is Stupid Humans),,, 🌷🌷🇮🇱🌷😔🙏
Norm and his relentless pursuit of the truth on this issue is very admirable. There are very few people who have bene more consistent, thank you for having him on
“If people were happy in Gaza, people wouldn’t give a damn about me, my book, my knowledge or anything else… So I have to always maintain the self possession, that if I’m a known quantity it’s because thousands(10s of thousands) are now going to die in this man-made famine. It would be a sin against the memory of my parents were I to take pride in the position I’m in now…” - Dr. Finkelstein This man is the truth. 🇵🇸
I had never heard of Norman Finkelstein until October 7th, an event which I condemn. I immediately had confidence in what Norman was saying. He is reasonable, highly intelligent, very careful in what he says, and quite clearly has a family background and a proven track record very relevant to what he says and does. His knowledge is complete. The world needs more Norman Finkelsteins. God bless him, and God give him strength and health, because he alone is the greatest walking encyclopaedia on the subject of Israel/Palestine.
@@cherryfairyy He suggested they don't use the "river to the sea" slogan and they used it anyway The reason he suggested it was that Zionist propaganda represents it to mean genocide
@@rohanharridge5579 'people of Israel' does not necessarily mean a legal citizen of Israel. It could plausibly refer to the wider historical Isreaelites for example, and people who may in some way feel or be descended from them.
I hope muslims and aljazeera could be half as good as Norman finkelstein because they would call out azerbaijan-turkey for doing to Armenians of Artsakh what israel wants to achieve in gaza, drive out the indigenious population of that land! You are unfortunately most of the time the same double Standard and racist as the israel regime you are fighting. Hope you will learn one day soon
Nothing you could say to counter israel is inflammatory in comparison to the actions of israel now in Gaza. What they're doing is way beyond inflammatory.
I live in Brighton Beach Brooklyn so I am a neighbor of yours Dr. Finkelstein. My parents are also survivors of the European Holocaust. Unlike you, I was born in the Soviet Union and I lived in Israel in the early 1960's as a young child. My memories of Israel are very good and I have been dealing with learning more about the more realistic history of Israel, compared with what I had learned. That history could have been very different had Israelis and Palestinian had different leadership and had created a society which incorporated the strengths of the different populations instead of exploiting their traumas and vulnerabilities. I am horrified by what is happening now and what has been happening for the last decades. I don't feel Israel represents me or the aspirations of my parents. I think there has to be a shift in consciousness on both sides and I believe there will be. Unfortunately, as is usually the case, the "gods" of violence will destroy many lives in the meanwhile. Thank you for your devotion to the true principles of Judaism and humanity. As Margaret Mead pointed out, it is always a small group which has created change in the world.
True. And it is the small group - those with political, economic and military powers - that has caused the disasters throughout the world. And too, the small group - them who fear God - who has and will correct the world.
The Zionists always knew what they wanted from moving to Israel and that was to take all of Palestine and there was never any care or thought to the Palestinian as a people ,they were seen as an object that needed to be gone so rich jews from Brooklyn could have first dibs on sea views .The way they made the genocide possible was to indoctrinate the children from nationalist Jews to hate and fear the Palestinian in the same way the ultra orthodox do to their children here in Melb .It breaks my heart to see the children here terrified of me when I say hello ,it shocked me to learn they are educated to hate and fear and despise the "Goy" .The Orthodox Jews do it to maintain the status quo of populating those in their religion and the Zionists do it to make sure thier children will have no qualms in murdering though thousands of innocent people .This is why you do not see much anger or support for the people pf Palestine ,they have taught the children well enough that they see the Palestinian as a pest ,a disease ,a non people .
It's not a double sided issue, sister. The fault is entirely with the LUNATIC/SATANIC zionistNaziDemons! And their complicit soulless minions. And then those who do not oppose the War Machine zionists control... But God Is The Most Real & Greater... Long Live Hero Prof. Finkelstein, Long Live Palestinian Heroes, the most beautiful & most betrayed People ever, and their Friends...aka humans/muslims = highest expression of humaneness & humbleness, gratefulness, truthfulness and compassion... Islam means attaining Peace with one's self & this temporary world, and finding ones Way back Home...by truly submitting to The Beloved Supreme (SWT) The Eternal One Whom Knows Best 1♥️ Peace, infinite Blessings and the supreme Guidance may be with you all
It's not a double sided issue, sister. The fault is entirely with the LUN4TIC/S4T4NIC zi0nistN4ziDem0ns! And their complicit soulless minions. And then those who do not oppose the War Machine zi0nists control... But God Is Greater & The Most Real... Long Live Hero Prof. Finkelstein, Long Live Palestinian Heroes, the most beautiful & most betrayed People ever, and their Friends...aka humans/muslims = highest expression of humaneness & humbleness, gratefulness, truthfulness and compassion... Islam means attaining Peace with one's self & this temporary world, and finding ones Way back Home...by truly submitting to The Beloved Supreme (SWT) The Eternal One Whom Knows Best 1♥️ Peace, infinite Blessings and the supreme Guidance may be with you all
It's not a double sided issue, sister. The fault is entirely with the LUN4TIC/S4T4NIC zi0nistN4ziDem0ns! And their complicit soulless minions. And then those who do not oppose the War Machine zi0nists control... But God Is Greater & The Most Real... Long Live Hero Prof. Finkelstein, Long Live Palestinian Heroes, the most beautiful & most betrayed People ever, and their Friends...aka humans
I loved this, "... I do not have the Gaza gene. I work hard." What a mind! absolute respect for you Prof. Finkelstein❤❤. Stay blessed, God's love pouring on you.🙏
Everything that is being said,,, is One Sided,,, 😔😔😔 Basically,, this is a Religious Conflict between the Imperial minded Islam and Judaism, that began with “Prophet Mo Himself. The land of Israel for 1,400 years, has been an “Islamic” land,,, Pls imagine the Rest of this “Human Conflict” (That is Stupid Humans),,, 🌷🌷🇮🇱🌷😔🙏
Everything that is being said,,, is One Sided,,, 😔😔😔 Basically,, this is a Religious Conflict between the Imperial minded Islam and Judaism, that began with “Prophet Mo Himself. The land of Israel for 1,400 years, has been an “Islamic” land,,, Pls imagine the Rest of this “Human Conflict” (That is Stupid Humans),,, 🌷🌷🇮🇱🌷😔🙏
@@gameaddictgonewild777 you know what will win sould to Christ?? Deeds. Your deeds are your testament. Random bible verses in the internet doesn't win any souls. Not for christ anyways.. ,(speaking as a former Christian)
At a time when tribalism, nepotism and racism is rampant it is very refreshing to listen to this professor. It gives me hope. Makes me feel optimistic.
@@matthewstone1362 He said that boycotts don't go far enough, they're important though, they played a huge part in bringing down the former racist & apartheid colonial regime in South Africa. Please follow the online boycotts lists, thank you.
Yes, this speech stating the real horrifying history of Palestinians proves the fact that Norman is the most authentic man to speak on this issue. Great respect. 💚🙏-bmd
My sincere thanks.
I'm 75 and it's a privilege to hear Dr. Finkelstein and read his books. I value the information he provides and because of his honesty, frankness, and humility there is always even more for me to reflect on after listening to him speak or reading what he has written.
Such extraordinary language skills and quick thinking ability and recall are inspiring and give me greater incentive to use what I have and to develop it as much as possible.
With every best wish and a heartfelt Thank You! TM in Chicago
Truth resonates. I 100% agree with you. Dr. Finkelstein has intelligence, depth, integrity, humility. I also admire him.
Gunna add my wholehearted agreement to this thread as well
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Your shadow is H@mas 😂😂
@@virtuosa69 Fellow bad hasbara listener?
Dr. Finkelstien
I am a Palastinian that grew up poor but at the end of the day I had some to eat, I can’t imagine what your mother has gone through and the people of Gaza are going through now .
Thank you so much for courage and the way you stand for humanity.
Dr. Finkelstein is a load of horse manure. Totally delusional.
What qualifies him..What qualifies him. You should be respectful to your guest. Especially one such as this guest. He is deserving of one's respect. Period!
@@DebbieJ.Beauchamp dude what's wrong with you? he just made a positive comment and you're getting triggered by it like seriously.
@@lilgig009 thank you! 🙏 🙏🏼
@user-wc8or5ll1n what are you talking about? 🍉👊
Finkelstein: "If You lost the capacity to see the innocents of children, You lost your mind, You're crazy."
So true!
Yep. They're pure psychopaths.
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They're criminally insane and wonder why they are so hated by the world!
We literally have fanatics running US foregin policies when it comes to the ME. Wheres the rationale politicians Govt officials?
Norman, I am an American Muslim and I honestly believe you are one of the greatest human being alive. I wish you all the best in this life and a reward in the hereafter.
I am an american Christian and feel exactly as you do. I hope both of us get to meet and talk with him in Heaven.
I am an American atheist and I hope that my generation and younger will result in a totally different policy towards Palestine and Israel and the Muslim world in general
Chomsky (he taked about) too.
Real human scientist.
I do not believe the United States will truly be free until all lobby groups that put the interests of foreign nations over the interests of Americans are dealt with.
He won't unless he believes in OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST 👊🏼🕊️✝️✝️✝️✝️
My mother was a child of WWII. She always remembered being hungry as a child and later as a college student, even after the victory of 1945. Thank you, Dr. Finkelstein, for being true to your mother's memory and for keeping your integrity no matter what. Not many people are strong enough to not waiver from the truth these days.
Because majority of people are so easily brainwashed . Probably watching too much BBC, CNN, DW France 24 etc .
My mother supports the jen-o-side in Gaza. If she had lived in 1930s Germany, she would have supported that one too. She is pure evil and there are millions like her in the USA.
My grandfather always mentions the hunger from the work camps. Being half polish and half Palestinian has given me a quote unique outlook on how lucky I am to have all the basic necessities of life, but almost feel guilty for such at time. Super sad.
My parents too, it gives you a very real connection doesn’t it .✊❤️
I'm STILL wondering why I can't distinguish Jews from anybody else!
I meant Who CARES! Isn't Human enough?
I just love the clarity and honesty of his speech. People complain that he speaks too slow, but it is because he gives value to each and every word that comes out of his mouth. And you can tell that because his words deeply resonate. He is like a writer, carefully and methodically crafting the narrative of his story so that it will reach us without any shadows or gaps. I've got now three of his books and each one is an academic masterpiece. Thanks for your hard work Mr. Finkelstein.
You trolls like opinions and always seem to disregard facts. It is YOUR DUTY to read up before expressing your opinions:
FACT 1. The West soundly W.O.N. WW1 and WW2 by defeating evil empires (like truly evil) such as the Nazis, Japan and even the Ottoman Empire. GET OVER IT!
FACT 2. The West could do what it wanted with conquered territories, such as the British Mandate of Palestine (much bigger than todays Israel!). It was given to the Jews. GET OVER IT!
FACT 3. The West or Israel did not create Gaza; a so called "open air prison". It was Egypt after l.o.s.i.n.g the 1947/1948 wars it started with Jordan & Syria against Israel. GET OVER IT!
FACT 4. Finkelstein is not a tenured professor. His H-index (quantity & quality of research) is lower than mine even. SEE THROUGH HIS BS!
His calm tone means nothing when what he says are mere opinions and sometimes borderline alternative facts and conspiracies. One less apparent example: His analogies about slave revolts in the US, which were indeed juste causes, are misplaced, misleading and even inappropriate considering the above facts (Egypt made Gaza what it is) and spreading terror, jihad, or religion is not a juste cause in the first place!
and it is good that he speaks slowly, so non native english listeners can understand him.
absolutely
Exactly! 💯
His pace and clarity is appreciated by us, those whose fisrt language is not English and so we appreciate The great professor hugely in our parts of the world
As a Jew whose ancestors were murdered by the Nazis, Professor Finkelstein is a shining example of what the rest of us Jews should strive to be: truly learned and moral Jewish citizens of the world. The mainstream Jewish attitude towards what is happening in Israel-Gaza (and the West Bank), the callousness and lack of empathy, fills me with shame and despair. NEVER AGAIN = NEVER AGAIN FOR ANYBODY!
Jews like you and Finkelstein are our brothers and sisters, we Palestinians are proud of you❤
He is a true Jew that OBEY's YHWH COVENANT and follows Torah Scripture LEVITICUS 19:33.34 in the treatment of those who dwell alongside Jews in the land .
They are anty Jws as Norm calls them. “The fals6 vine: The ‘sina.gog” of ‘Say.tan’ who say they are Jws but are liars.”Rev 3.9 Anyone with morals or any humanity would say the same as you: Never again for anybody!
Some may refer to a Kapo or the male version of Stella Goldshlag.
We know that the majority of the Jewish people are very good people who want peace for the Palestinians but the Politics of Hertzel is the criminal ideology which will be the fall of the Jewish state.
Didn't really know anything about israel and gaza till this war. Professor Finkelstein explains the history in a way that everyone can understand. This man deserves a noble peace prize for sticking with it for 40 years. He's my hero.
Agree entirely ❤
Your ignorance was deliberate public policy. They don't want you to know what is really happening. The US is now ranked 29th in literacy, behind Bolivia.
He’s a liar. Only focuses on facts that fit his narrative
@@jon_wholesaleyou’re describing isntreal bot, without bots Zionism rots.
@@jon_wholesaledo you condemn isntreal?
Norman Finkelstein has left his mark on this conflict reminding everybody of their humanity.
Too bad he can't remind the Israelis of their humanity. But yes I agree one hundred percent.
Well, not everyone. There are many who refuse to focus on anything other than Oct 7. Many believe the conflict is mainly over border lines... And that's become the very least of things for the Palestinians
I have thought about having my own YT channel just so I can talk to him. I've known only a handful of people in my nearly 60 years that use language and words so precisely. Every word he speaks is said for its meaning. There's no fluff, at least when he speaks on this topic
@@B_Bodziak he does zoom lectures to the public go to his website
@@B_Bodziak Yeah they want no Isreal. NO peace. No 2 state solution.
I cannot sufficiently express my admiration and respect for Professor Norman Finkelstein. I wish he was on every MSM news channel, radio and TV.
Corporate Media can not handle, listening to this truth & if they were tempted to
do so, their Puppet Masters, would veto it! The "love of money" corrupts ALL.
--------- Psalm 37.
In an odd way Norman Finkelstein may have benefited from not appearing on Main Stream Media channels. Wouldn't he have been cut short by the interviewers? Especially those being told by producers to bring in some pro-Israeli Government apologist to "balance" the discussion?
That will never happen. He would topple the entire msm and expose them for the lying liars who have been lying to the American people for the past 8 decades.
Same
No wonder he’s never invited on the mainstream media. Only dishonest peddling that favors Israeli propaganda is allowed…
When I listen to people like Professor Norman Finkelstein, it gives me hope that humanity is still out there... what a professional and intelligent person he is. Legend!
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NORM IS LAST OF A DYING BREED
Everything that is being said,,, is One Sided,,, 😔😔😔 Basically,, this is a Religious Conflict between the Imperial minded Islam and Judaism, that began with “Prophet Mo Himself. The land of Israel for 1,400 years, has been an “Islamic” land,,, Pls imagine the Rest of this “Human Conflict” (That is Stupid Humans),,, 🌷🌷🇮🇱🌷😔🙏
God bless and protect Israel 🇮🇱
@@Kingdom3in1 Pack your bags and keep your shoes handy.
Dear dr norman iam an iranian 41 year old male and i appreaciate you are real humanbeing and i hope you can acheive more than you expect .
More than……”you expect”…..?!?!?…..interesting…….Live to all
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More than you MIGHT expect! Try Iranian, he's no Mother tongue colonial English!
The Dr. Is 1 in a billion. One who speaks the truth with courage. I have much respect and admiration.
You notice that Finklestein is always on smaller channels speaking out for the suffering of Gaza and laying the facts straight - that's probably why you don't see him on corporate media - he would destroy their lies. Much appreciation and respect
He's been blacklisted because he showed Dershowitz to be a liar. Dershowitz went on a campaign to destroy his career and have mostly succeeded.
@@TheNonparielyep and they still parade dershowitz around not just after the plagiarism but even him and epstein stuff.
It was nice to see him on the Candace Owens Podcast! Whether or not you're right wing (I am not), it's always positive to see someone like him on a platform with a larger audience.
"The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses." - Malcolm X
"That's probably," ya think? Why am I banned, blocked, cancelled and imploded? Same thing 15+ years ago right here on YTooob.
This man has been speaking the truth and fighting for it for over half a century. ✊
They never say Stain was evil (Russian Jew) or Lenin (Russian Jew) or Troksky (Russian Jew) All Marxists, always Marxist. The ones who killed over 60 MILLION.
God sees him and I hope he guides him for his efforts.
Why Norman Finkelstein, who has been a vocal supporter of Palestinian Arab rights for decades, believes the BDS movement is dishonest and actually seeks the destruction of Israel.
"I’ve earned my right to speak my mind, and I’m not going to tolerate what I think is silliness, childishness, and a lot of leftist posturing.
I mean we have to be honest, and I loathe the disingenuous. They don’t want Israel. They think they are being very clever; they call it their three-tier. We want the end of the occupation, the right of return, and we want equal rights for Arabs in Israel. And they think they are very clever because they know the result of implementing all three is what, what is the result?
You know and I know what the result is. There’s no Israel! And if you don’t want the same framework then stop talking about the law and stop trying to be so clever. Because you’re only so clever in your cult. The moment you step out you have to deal with Israeli propaganda. And here they have a case.
They say no they’re not really talking about rights. They’re talking about they want to destroy Israel. And in fact I think they’re right I think that’s true. I’m not going to lie. But this kind of duplicity and disingenuous, “oh we’re agnostic about Israel.” No you’re not agnostic! You don’t want it! Then just say it! But they know full well: If you say it you don’t have a prayer reaching a broad public. Because that’s where the public is right now."
Why Norman Finkelstein, who has been a vocal supporter of Palestinian Arab rights for decades, believes the BDS movement is dishonest and actually seeks the destruction of Israel.
"I’ve earned my right to speak my mind, and I’m not going to tolerate what I think is silliness, childishness, and a lot of leftist posturing.
I mean we have to be honest, and I loathe the disingenuous. They don’t want Israel. They think they are being very clever; they call it their three-tier. We want the end of the occupation, the right of return, and we want equal rights for Arabs in Israel. And they think they are very clever because they know the result of implementing all three is what, what is the result?
You know and I know what the result is. There’s no Israel! And if you don’t want the same framework then stop talking about the law and stop trying to be so clever. Because you’re only so clever in your cult. The moment you step out you have to deal with Israeli propaganda. And here they have a case.
They say no they’re not really talking about rights. They’re talking about they want to destroy Israel. And in fact I think they’re right I think that’s true. I’m not going to lie. But this kind of duplicity and disingenuous, “oh we’re agnostic about Israel.” No you’re not agnostic! You don’t want it! Then just say it! But they know full well: If you say it you don’t have a prayer reaching a broad public. Because that’s where the public is right now."
Guides him to where? @@FaisalJama-l6d
Mr Finklestein, as a Native American I see a correlation between the occupation of Gaza to the tribes in America. It would be an honor to invite you and speak to the Great Navajo Nation tribal members about the history of Palestians. I respect you...AHOO!
Yes, for five hundred years the Western Europeans colonized the entire world. They slaughtered the indigenous people and destroyed their cultures. To this day Western countries pride themselves on their human values and superior culture. We are complete hypocrites.
That's a beautiful invitation 🇵🇸
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I love and sympathize with the native Americans after reading 'Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee'.
I am native american tooo. How strange, both born in america.....
"I don't feel Israel is a Jewish state; it's a lunatic state."
Well put!
Maybe jews can be lunatics too! They are human you know.
Yeah, it just seems wrong to call such a wicked government Jewish. Especially after so many centuries of Europe's Jewish communities doing *so* much to right the wrongs of the world, to oppose imperialism and resist capitalism, and feudalism before it. Granted they participated in a lot of that stuff as well but I would say that they're a vital, dynamic and admirable part of European history and I think it's downright criminal to say they're tied to or responsible for, the crimes of the state of Israel. Their insistence of maintaining a distinct identity in the face of the most powerful empires in history is exactly the kind of stubbornness I love. They thumbed their noses at the romans, the Russians, the british, the French, and the germans, and the Spanish, and kept on being them. Imagine the temerity,the creativity, and audacity that took, generation after generation of righteously indignant folks. Zionism was a terrible idea and if Theodore Herzl was still alive I would slap him for coming up with it.
@@seekingabsolution1907 yeah, Germany could use the same exact argument. They’re a major contributor to European culture, to art, to science, to classical music…
Russia, could sing you the same song. It’s a majestic and a noble country. Its people are proud, strong, resilient, inventive, humane…
I don’t think less of the Jewish community. It’s not about the people and the culture.
It’s about politics, radicalism and propaganda on both sides. And one of them being overwhelmingly powerful.
Israel’s government is reckless, volatile. They put themselves, the Israeli people and the whole world peace in peril. They don’t care about the hostage. They want Gaza, wiped out.
exactly, so many jewish people do not endorse israel and zionism is hurting the image of judaism more than anything else
It is a Jewish state,the most Jewish state in the world.
Norm. I know you gave up for a while. Thank you for coming back.❤
You trolls like opinions and always seem to disregard facts. It is YOUR DUTY to read up before expressing your opinions:
FACT 1. The West soundly W.O.N. WW1 and WW2 by defeating evil empires (like truly evil) such as the Nazis, Japan and even the Ottoman Empire. GET OVER IT!
FACT 2. The West could do what it wanted with conquered territories, such as the British Mandate of Palestine (much bigger than todays Israel!). It was given to the Jews. GET OVER IT!
FACT 3. The West or Israel did not create Gaza; a so called "open air prison". It was Egypt after l.o.s.i.n.g the 1947/1948 wars it started with Jordan & Syria against Israel. GET OVER IT!
FACT 4. Finkelstein is not a tenured professor. His H-index (quantity & quality of research) is lower than mine even. SEE THROUGH HIS BS!
His calm tone means nothing when what he says are mere opinions and sometimes borderline alternative facts and conspiracies. One less apparent example: His analogies about slave revolts in the US, which were indeed juste causes, are misplaced, misleading and even inappropriate considering the above facts (Egypt made Gaza what it is) and spreading terror, jihad, or religion is not a juste cause in the first place!
Not gave up, he saw no hope for humanity because decades of ignoring genocide will affect your mental health.
Everything that is being said,,, is One Sided,,, 😔😔😔 Basically,, this is a Religious Conflict between the Imperial minded Islam and Judaism, that began with “Prophet Mo Himself. The land of Israel for 1,400 years, has been an “Islamic” land,,, Pls imagine the Rest of this “Human Conflict” (That is Stupid Humans),,, 🌷🌷🇮🇱🌷😔🙏
@@rooks4ever Yes. When tens of thousands of people are “gone” within a few months, yet nobody is allowed to tell the truth, they can only repeat Pissraeli lies that allow the Pissraelis to continue “mowing the lawn,” it doesn’t give hope to the truth tellers. The truth is starting to seep through though, people are starting to question why the thousands of lies they’re being told isn’t adding up
@@rooks4ever Can't imagine studying and documenting this for 42 years as I am losing my mind in 6 months.
This professor lost his job because he was speaking the truth.
W professor
Dersh-no-wits was behind it
Herr Norman Finkelstein Ihnen alles möglichst Gute. Gesundheit.
Vielen vielen Dank fuer ihren Einsatz in Ihrem Leben fuer Palästina und fuer die Palästinenser.
Thank you very very much .
what are we going to do , vote these Zionist traitors out of DC
Viva Palestina!!
What a joy to listen to someone who can explain a situation with such eloquence and clarity without a hint of self promotion. No looking for "likes" or subscribers here. Thank you Norman. I wish everyone in the world could listen to this interview. And thank you for stating what to me has been obvious for a long time: If the Israeli people didn't want Netanyahu in power, he would not be there.
I can't trust him. He just here to embellish the Jews and make us believe that Zionists are not Jewish. From where did the Zionists take their ideology?
Prof. Finkelstien, I wish the world have more truthful and honest humans like you.
Joe and Norman. I am a 81 year old male in Australia and in 1970, as a casual supporter of Israel, I was threatened by Zionists in NZ to be burned alive, along with my entire household, for the crime of publishing an article "The Arab Side of the Story". As it happened, and unknown to me, one of my house mates was Jewish. His father, a Rabbi, and also the Lord Mayor of Auckland, Sir Dove Meyer Robinson, saved my life. Thenceforth, my geopolitical educators were Jewish... Peter Meyer, Israel Shamir, Gilad Atzmon, Schlomo Zand, members of JStreet, of Yesh G'Val, and so many others. I am also a musician, writer, author, researcher, transcultural interpreter, and functionary of many other roles and I am naturally attracted to Jews. Even the women, for their beauty and spirit. So it would be a little silly to accuse me of anti-semitism. Yet I am targeted by Zionists. I am to be destroyed. At least four death threats, some of these actual attempts, to kill me. I have drawn attention to the issue of DNA and the lack of Semitic DNA among Zionists; which are the control element of Israel. After a dozen kill attempts I have no fear of death. Never have; never will. But I have evolved to put together information to guide humany towards peace after WWIII has ended. I need to present this to the world before I die. Sky News is Zionist leader Rupert Murdoch's flag ship, especially in Australia and they will soon target me because I can prove Rupert's criminality. Are you able to proselytise the recent speeches of Norman Finklestein, and also Naomi Klein at the NY protest meet... in Australia. i have no idea how you can do this but that is what we need to overcome the Murdoch, Frank Lowy, Ross Garnau stranglehold on Australian media. Kindest regards, Tony Ryan (tonyryan43@gmail.com)
It's crazy a little learn so small people are arguing over millions of miles away. You being so far away but somehow caught up in the drama. Maybe the world will be more peaceful if things were localized and no one else got involved.
Just curious how a few crazy people you ran into almost 50 years ago represent all zionists and perhaps the specofic characters you dealt with
You need to come out with your story on video mate, that is the only way of warning people today. Tell your story and document it.
Victims card can strike far away since majority are dual citizen,mainstream media owners,and have the biggest lobby all in the US and Europe.The rest of the world work under the big guys
If they threatened to destroy is wise to decument and make aware of others what is going on otherwise if you silent it can mean it never happens although it happens to you.
Please write about" perfect book"
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Ironically, DNA was also the "litmus" test among Nazi's as a method of distinguishing racial "purity" of Aryan Germans from the Jews.
Norman: You are an inspiring Spirit. All your interviews have been shared with Palestinians in Jerusalem, Westbank and many in Gaza. We are so proud to learn from you and certainly hold your honesty, humanity, sensitivity, and courage and more and more.
Finkelstein is a fool.
@@tonysuel5347you are an absolute tool.
Thank you so much for airing this. A great man. A great soul, a brilliant mind. A big heart.
Thankyou for not interrupting this wonderful man. Your questions were excellent.
Thank you Norm for always fighting the good fight, and giving a voice to so many voiceless people
The best interview with Norman just yet. The host is superb; Asked challenging questions but gave space for the answers. Giving listeners a real conversation and dialogue that was illuminating! Bravo, Politics Joe, Well done !
But at the beginning was insulting to Norm
Nope, not “bravo, Politics Joe!” The questions weren’t “challenging.” The questions were framed in a way that betrayed this guy’s uninformed and thoroughly propagandized view of the issues at hand, and frankly, are offensive in their delivery and their implied content.
Not that any of those questions are a problem for Prof. Finkelstein. He eats implications like these for breakfast. Swats them down like flies. He’s an intellectual Michael Jordan. He dominates the court without even trying.
@@MatthewH-hp8bp absolutely agree, the interviewer was completely out of his depth
Have a lot of respect for Dr Finkelstein. Kudos to the host as well. Very patient and insightful questions.
Love listening to Norman. He is a noble, fair and truthful speaker. ❤
Respect is earned, and professor Norman Finkelstein earned it 100x over.
Agree
lol so delusional
he had 100x respect earned before the first time he spoke
@@jeremieerikssonlefebvre2647 I am sure he has more respect for after he spoke the truth The truth always prevails on the long run
@@yousreyakhalil5238 Then you should dig into all the misconceptions he has about the conflict. Even when praising Benny morris work, sitting in front on him, Benny has to point out he is misunderstanding his own work and the complexity of the conflict. In a typical austistic way Norm displays a black and white lens of reality.
Prof. Finkelstein will be remembered as a hero for the humane!
Thank you professor!
I hope he lives long enough to see a free Palestine...perhaps be a citizen of a free Palestine.
You trolls like opinions and always seem to disregard facts. It is YOUR DUTY to read up before expressing your opinions:
FACT 1. The West soundly W.O.N. WW1 and WW2 by defeating evil empires (like truly evil) such as the Nazis, Japan and even the Ottoman Empire. GET OVER IT!
FACT 2. The West could do what it wanted with conquered territories, such as the British Mandate of Palestine (much bigger than todays Israel!). It was given to the Jews. GET OVER IT!
FACT 3. The West or Israel did not create Gaza; a so called "open air prison". It was Egypt after l.o.s.i.n.g the 1947/1948 wars it started with Jordan & Syria against Israel. GET OVER IT!
FACT 4. Finkelstein is not a tenured professor. His H-index (quantity & quality of research) is lower than mine even. SEE THROUGH HIS BS!
His calm tone means nothing when what he says are mere opinions and sometimes borderline alternative facts and conspiracies. One less apparent example: His analogies about slave revolts in the US, which were indeed juste causes, are misplaced, misleading and even inappropriate considering the above facts (Egypt made Gaza what it is) and spreading terror, jihad, or religion is not a juste cause in the first place!
@@DD-1971 IDF Working On It 😊
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@@blackpinklisa3615 What is the IDF? Maybe you mean The ICF (The Israeli Criminal Force)😂
This is something everyone should hear to clearly understand why the Palestinian people would snap and want to break free and do anything as they are desperate to be FREE of this oppression. Thank you for your truth. 🇵🇸💖🇵🇸
24 years ago I met Norm. And he's been consistent. He brought this injustice to my attention. And I have been a follower since. He's a mensch!
Norman's intellect paired with his deep, deep humanity and compassion is truly a winning combination. His description of Blair is both terrifying and funny at the same time. What a gem.
Tremendous respect for his honesty, knowledge & courage.
I am the son of two kids growing into the Nazi system (both born 1924). Listening to Norm Finkelstein helps me to understand the meanderings of my own disturbed mind and how I got there. Thanks so much for that.
No no no you are needed, ever so needed Norman!!! I feel your pain… all the more because I myself have been traumatized by violence. I have found solace in your words, your un quivering humanity and your profound humility. I also enjoy your humor & yes, you do speak slowly because every word you utter is important!!
He is arrogant in his knowledge of he Palestinian subject. And rightly so.
Last line: Best description of prof Finkelstein I've ever read
Mr. Finkelstein, my full RESPECT!
Then you’ve got issues.
@@thankgod4rednecsinnitt290 :)
@@thankgod4rednecsinnitt290 Nowhere near as many as you have.
@@mobsiesixsixsix9785 Unlike him, I don’t support the jihadists who massacred the Charlie Hebdo writers
@@thankgod4rednecsinnitt290 Cope ishmeal.😂
Battle on Dr. Norman Finkelstein! May we have you with us many more than 15 years ahead!!!
He don’t look very good .
Year or two is my guess .
Oh well . He maybe has 72 ? Virgins waiting for him if he hurries up and reverts ? Converts ?
Course they would have be under 9 ? How old was Aisha again when you know ..
God Bless you Dr. FINKELSTEIN. I HAVE READ ALL YOUR BOOKS. YOU ARE A TREASURE OF HUMANITY. I FEEL SO INCREDIBLY BLESSED TO HAVE HEARD AND READ YOUR WORDS. PLEASE NEVER LOSE FAITH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU THANK YOU.
Dr Norman Finkelstein.
The definition of truth, honor and resistance.
Yes, a lunatic state rules by lunatic politicians .
@@tinaforbes1059 I think you’re replying to something else. Did somebody mention Pissrael?
@@GazaHolocaust Yes, pissreal /Is-hell, two cheeks of the same arse .
He is Mossad agent. I can't trust him.
Norman Finkelstein always makes me cry. I thank him profoundly for documenting this in detail and I'm glad he happens to be alive so he can see it wasn't a futile effort.
I hope he keeps being alive for when Palestine gets freed by its captors and killers.
Yes some never get to see the fruits of their labor and effort. I don't think Israel will exist much longer. If nothing else the economy is failing and many are leaving, despite what western media is telling us.
Much Respect for the Professor Norman Finkelstein.
When intellectual integrity and decency come together, you end up with a Norman Finkelstein. It is a privilege to hear him.
Always ❤
When listening to Finklestein debate Dershowitz and others who view Israel as completely guiltless, it is profoundly clear who has studied the situation and subject of Palestine-Israel with an unbiased and reasoned mind. Thanks to Dr. Finklestein for his academic acumen and expertise on the history of Palestine and Israel.
Dershowitz is pathetic lol
Dear Dr Finkelstein, I feel that whatever I am going to say in response to your passionate, thorough and utterly pertinent contribution, it is not going to describe the intensity of my reaction to it. I gave myself some time to organise my thoughts before commenting by doing some ordinary daily tasks. In spite of it, four hours after watching this video, I am still deeply affected by much of what you share, describe and report. I am a contemporary of yours. I recognise some of what you describe as similar to my own childhood experience, albeit very different as well. One thing that resonates is the powerful presence of a mother whose experience to an important extent determined my own political development.
It is the 4th of May, the official commemoration day here in the Netherlands. Tonight we will have a two minutes national silence in memory of all those whom died in ww 2. As a young woman I used to go to a memorial site of ordinary neighbourhood lads whom had been killed as they were resisting the invaders. I remember taking lilacs. People honour in their own way for reasons of their own. Tonight will be different from any previous commemoration as many people will be thinking of the atrocities committed against the Palestinian people. Yet I do not think a mention will be made of it. We'll see. I lived in the UK under Tony Blair when Irak was invaded. I remember how I observed with growing dread and disbelief how the fable of 'weapons of mass destruction,' was rolled out. I remember Dr.David Kelly. I remember his visit to Irak to investigate and I remember his suicide. Do I need to say more?
Lastly, I have only last week come upon you via you tube and am grateful for now knowing about your existence. Listening to you and some of your interviewers, I felt at times that I was back in the seventies and hearing the same political language again. A language that has been under attack and, I thought, was nowhere to be found anymore. I cannot thank you enough. Lastly, for real this time, I want to take a risk here and ask you to look after yourself. I know I am at risk of being accused of sounding condescending, motherly and or interfering, but really I am being selfish here. I want you to stay alive and have more time enjoy your aliveness and comradeship. Thank you.
Yes. Self care so you can continue to be of such use to the world!💙🕊️
'I am the world's leading authority on Gaza, ... by virtue of the fact that I am the only one.'
Thank you, professor, for having persisted becoming the leading authority on Gaza when there was little material or immaterial to gain doing so.
Ha if you think his gift doesn't get him money you are as delusional as he is
Actually I think there are two if you count Miko Peled, author of The General's Son, whose grandfather was top Zionist general in 1948 and father top Zionist general in 1967 war. Miko Peled was himself a Captain in the IDF, but renounced it and has participated in most Palestinian protests over the years. Has many TH-cam videos.
along with ilan Pappe
Greetings from South Africa. My dear Norm, you are a true mensch. Your conscience, dedication & hard work shine through. Providence granted you all that in preparation for this moment in time. May the remainder of your life be truly blessed.
Thank God for Norman Finklestein.
Everything that is being said,,, is One Sided,,, 😔😔😔 Basically,, this is a Religious Conflict between the Imperial minded Islam and Judaism, that began with “Prophet Mo Himself. The land of Israel for 1,400 years, has been an “Islamic” land,,, Pls imagine the Rest of this “Human Conflict” (That is Stupid Humans),,, 🌷🌷🇮🇱🌷😔🙏
"Mostly civilians" - Incorrect
On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians.
Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1
According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total.
On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1
When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1
From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations.
A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower.
The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest.
The reported ages of the victims are as follows:
0-4: 2 civilians
5-12: 8 civilians
13-17: 14 civilians
18-25: 132 civilians
26-40: 119 civilians
41-60: 55 civilians
61+: 40 civilians
Active duty military personnel:
18-25: 258 active duty military personnel
26-40: 60 active duty military personnel
41-60: 17 active duty military personnel
61+: 1 active duty military personnel
They are following scripture, the word עוֹלֵל, ʿôlēl which means 'Babe, infant, little one, a suckling' occurs 21 King James Bible Verses Of these verses:
“Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” -Psalm 137:9
“Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”-1 Samuel 15:3
“Therefore I am full of the fury of the LORD; I am weary with holding in: I will pour it out upon the children abroad, and upon the assembly of young men together: for even the husband with the wife shall be taken, the aged with him that is full of days.”
-Jeremiah 6:11
“Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.”
-Hosea 13:16
The other verses are not much different. Infact it is always in association with violence. Indeed these verses are the reason why in the Crusades the sense of pious rejoicing at massacre does not appear to be the product of later theologizing; it is also found, in the account of the eye-witness Raymond of Aguilers:
“in the Temple and porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.” In fact, Raymond continues, “This day, I say, will be famous in all future ages, for it turned our labours and sorrows into joy and exultation; this day, I say, marks the justification of all Christianity, the humiliation of paganism, and the renewal of our faith.”
Another account by a chronicler and eyewitness-priest, Albert of Aachen, describes the killing of fleeing women, and depicts crusaders as:: “seizing [infants who were still suckling] by the soles of their feet from their mothers’ laps or their cradles…and dashing them against the walls or lintels of the doors and breaking their necks […] they were sparing absolutely no gentile of any age or kind.”The incoherence inherent in a stranger to Abraham calling the children of Abraham gentiles notwithstanding, this account evokes the very same Psalm 137:9 imprecation against Babylon, in Latin, “beatus qui tenebit et adlidet parvulos tuos ad petram.”
This is the polar opposite in the Quran in Surah Al-Tanwir, literally "The Englightenining" Surah, Aya 8-9, we have the death of a newborn is mentioned amongst the penultimate signs of the end of times, emphasizing the gravity of such an action. That child, now resurrected, is asked for what wrong doing was she murdered. This is to emphasize that she had done nothing wrong, for she had done nothing wrong and this is the day of retribution where those who omitted the evil are to be punished.
This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190, which exhorts to fight unbelievers and not be "Aggressors", in the commentary of what it means to be aggressors, this was stated Al-Hasan Al-Basri stated that transgression (indicated by the Ayah):
"includes mutilating the dead, theft (from the captured goods), killing women, children and old people who do not participate in warfare, killing priests and residents of houses of worship, burning down trees and killing animals without real benefit."
This is also the opinion of Ibn `Abbas, `Umar bin `Abdul-`Aziz, Muqatil bin Hayyan and others. Muslim recorded in his Sahih that Buraydah narrated that Allah's Messenger said: "Fight for the sake of Allah and fight those who disbelieve in Allah. Fight, but do not steal, commit treachery, mutilate, or kill a child, or those who reside in houses of worship."
It is reported in the Two Sahihs that Ibn `Umar said, "The Prophet forbade killing women and children."
بابتداء القتال أو بقتال من نهيتم عن قتاله من النساء والشيوخ والصبيان والذين بينكم وبينهم عهد أو بالمثلة أو بالمفاجأة من غير دعوة
"To kill those whom you were forbidden to from women, elderly, children and those whom betwixt you is a treaty or custom or by surprise or without cause"
-Tafsir Al-Zamakshari of the meaning of Aggressors in the Aya
More hadith from Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah:
حَدَّثَنَا حُمَيْدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ شَيْخٍ، مِنْ أَهْلِ الْمَدِينَةِ مَوْلَى لِبَنِي عَبْدِ الْأَشْهَلِ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَانَ إِذَا بَعَثَ جُيُوشَهُ قَالَ: «§لَا تَقْتُلُوا أَصْحَابَ الصَّوَامِعِ»
"Do not kill the dwellers of monasteries"
حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ فُضَيْلٍ، عَنْ جُوَيْبِرٍ، عَنِ الضَّحَّاكِ قَالَ: كَانَ «§يُنْهَى عَنْ قَتْلِ الْمَرْأَةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ»
سَعْدٍ قَالَ: «§نَهَى رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَنْ قَتْلِ النِّسَاءِ وَالذُّرِّيَّةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ الَّذِي لَا حَرَاكَ بِهِ»
"The prophet forbids the killing of women, children, and the elderly"
This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Anfal Ayah 61 in which even oath breaking deniers/unbelievers are allowed to sue for peace states if the unbelievers they ask for peace, give it to them.
The modifiable testament testament commands indiscriminate killing, genocide, plunder, mutilation, enslavement, or torture of enemies, including women, on the other hand.Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190 limits war to those who fight against Muslims, prohibits transgression, and implies respect for human dignity and life Indeed it is what precedes the famous "sword verse", always cited out of context.
God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.
@@mznxbcv12345Jesus dude don’t just leave a comment like that as a reply!!! Put it in the main comments!
yup
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are you a writer? Please listen to the guy asking/suggesting that you to put this clear and thorough comment in the main comments section and not as a reply where only 2-3people will see maximum.
You summed up a lot for us! the non muslims will understand well the first part. The theologians and Muslims will understand also the second part regarding the comparison of religious text on issues of war.
It seems all the UN charter regarding rules of engagement in war was written by muslims rwho knew the Koran especially when you read the verses of the quran that you have mention.
Compare that with the Amalek scripts that the izzy lunatics quote all the time. you know these scripts are man made scripts as God will never order anyone to unlive innocent babies or end and destroy animals who will not fight anyone as what can an ass do to you?
"Mowing the lawn" and "Work will set you free" will sit next to each other in history.
All I wanna say this morning Dr. Norman Finkelstein is I love you. LONG LIVE PALESTINE. LONG LIVE DR. FINKELSTEIN.👌🏽👍🏽🇯🇴💖🤸🏽💃🏽💞
You trolls like opinions and always seem to disregard facts. It is YOUR DUTY to read up before expressing your opinions:
FACT 1. The West soundly W.O.N. WW1 and WW2 by defeating evil empires (like truly evil) such as the Nazis, Japan and even the Ottoman Empire. GET OVER IT!
FACT 2. The West could do what it wanted with conquered territories, such as the British Mandate of Palestine (much bigger than todays Israel!). It was given to the Jews. GET OVER IT!
FACT 3. The West or Israel did not create Gaza; a so called "open air prison". It was Egypt after l.o.s.i.n.g the 1947/1948 wars it started with Jordan & Syria against Israel. GET OVER IT!
FACT 4. Finkelstein is not a tenured professor. His H-index (quantity & quality of research) is lower than mine even. SEE THROUGH HIS BS!
His calm tone means nothing when what he says are mere opinions and sometimes borderline alternative facts and conspiracies. One less apparent example: His analogies about slave revolts in the US, which were indeed juste causes, are misplaced, misleading and even inappropriate considering the above facts (Egypt made Gaza what it is) and spreading terror, jihad, or religion is not a juste cause in the first place!
Norman is a lunatic.
We love you عم Norman.
I love you Dr Finkelstein.
And I as well! From Canada 🇨🇦! 🍉🇵🇸🫒🕊🐈
Always a pleasure listening to Uncle Norm ❤️
Notice how the people against Norman down there attack him as a person, but never say he is lying.
They can't handle the truth. 😢
Great observation but they are calling him a self hating jew just like they’re calling Ilan Pappe, Avi Shleim, Miko Peled, Gabor matte, Tony Greenstein and few others. What a farse!
This is exactly what Norm does. He attacks people he disagrees with personally.
@@karleone28 yea you are right. He attacks them with facts, historical recounts, and evidence from neutral organizations like the UN.
Filthy strategy tbh
He is a vile person and wrong factually. Both are true.
Dr Fenklstein, I love your heart, your truth your courage to speak to evildoers. You are a gift to humanity. I am a African American Muslim woman grandfather born late 1800S was a blk jew spoke Hebrew and had a kosher home. My grandfather died in early 60s. I worked with many Jewish people for over 30 yrs I enjoyed who they were and was even invited to Israel one year by a woman who I worked with. This is horrifying what is happening to all in Palestine. May God help humanity and we can end this madness on earth. Peace and blessings.
Thank you so
Much Norman. Your a stunning light in the darkness.
Yes a true supernova of reverse racism 🙄
Ilan Pappe is the British coauthority. Enlightened brothers with a true Jewish conscience!
If you want to know the entire truth and not only one side bias read his friend Benny Morris
@@karleone28 "I'd rather be a racist than a bore", Benny Morris.
That Benny?!
Isreal NO debería llamarse un estado judío sino un estado lunático; un estado Mshuge.
Israel es un estado lunático con una sociedad lunática igual que lo fue la Alemania nazi.
@@abdirahmanfarahabdi7206 Yeah. Its better to loose patience once in a while when be a cold blooded lair his entire life like Pappe is.
Simply excellent. That mainstream legacy media refuses to even acknowledge this man's existence tells me all I need to know about western media.
Wish I could meet you some day sir. I really wish I could get my children to meet you ... Such heart and courage and clear thinking is a gift from God
I wish there were more Norman Finkelstein's in this world.
Thankfully Norm isn't and never was the norm otherwise we'd all have wound up as bars of soap and lampshades.
I love that Norman is getting his due and Alan Dershowitz will be remembered as a literal clown. Sometimes there is justice.
What an amazing talk by Norman......yet again your knowledge and clear thinking has been worth every second of viewing....I will watch again to absorb your words.....
Blessings from Mexico. Thank you so much!!! ❤
Now a days it is dangerous to tell the truth.
God bless,
God speed Dr. Norm.
In the kingdom of lies, the truth is a dangerous traitor...
Everything that is being said,,, is One Sided,,, 😔😔😔 Basically,, this is a Religious Conflict between the Imperial minded Islam and Judaism, that began with “Prophet Mo Himself. The land of Israel for 1,400 years, has been an “Islamic” land,,, Pls imagine the Rest of this “Human Conflict” (That is Stupid Humans),,, 🌷🌷🇮🇱🌷😔🙏
@@lukestrawwalker Yes, it is. That is why there are so many here praising Finkelstein's many lies as ''truth''
@@Tiasung easy to say. Call out his lie then with truth... What did he lie about?
@@lukestrawwalker his big lie was that bambing 10,000 little children to death is lunacy. no its not. its for the safety and security of israel. those kids dont matter. israel security is what matters.
Thank you Mr. Norman Finkelstein for standing with Palestine people.
Standing with Hamas and Iran oh sorry same thing pretty much as Palestinian people sadly . 🥲
@@allanbrown3065🍉👊🍉👊🍉
@@allanbrown3065
It won't work. Period.
I can listen to this man for hours.
You might hear an entire sentence
Thank you Norm. Bless your big heart.
Norm is such an amazing scholar. It’s a pleasure to hear him speak. Much love and respect to him, thank you for giving him a platform!!
Norman is the type of a guy you will spend all day listening to him without even blinking!!
HERO
as a Jew and Israeli - Much much respect to Professor Norman Finkelstein
Please take him. He only talks about Palestinians and to listen to him is so painful.
@@SaletePires-c9v Not as painful as reading your comment, I'm sure.
What’s your view of the war on Gaza? How is everyone holding up regarding those lost hostages. I hope they can be returned all safe and sound. I really want the massacre and starvation in Gaza to stop. So many children weren’t even alive when Hamas took over power in 2006.
@@SaletePires-c9v so, truth makes your ears bleed... 🤔 Allergies to documented facts?
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Thank you, Norman. It's always great listening to you .
It's always worth listening to Norman Finkelstein. There are always new aspects and details. Very educating.
"The Nazis made me afraid to be a Jew, and the Israelis make me ashamed to be a Jew". Dr. Shahak was an Israeli professor of organic chemistry, a Holocaust survivor and a civil rights advocate and activist.
i feel sorry for the many jewish people who have their identity being used as an excuse for such atrocities. zionism is detrimental to EVERYONE even the people they claim they are
Jews typically do not care about civil rights unless it is to their own benefit. Jews are the ultimate tribalists.
Shame I didn't see you post this quote before I posted it as a reply to other posts here.
Shahak's sentiment couldn't be more true today.
Well said Norman. 👍👍
Until the end of civilization on this plant Norman's courageous articulation of the truth of these matters will stand alone in the history of humanity. Few of us ordinary mortals have the knowledge even less the courage of Norman Finkelstein! Shalom, Kilroy NYC
Wow, thank you for explaining this horrific genocidal slaughter being done against the Palatinian people..unbelievable 😢
Palestinian children - before this 55% of Palestinians were 18 and younger. So, who are they are killing? Palestinian underage children arrested and tried in military tribunals and held in military adult prisons. Ilegal.
a great man......honest caring and compassionate....Norman Finkelstein
Everything that is being said,,, is One Sided,,, 😔😔😔 Basically,, this is a Religious Conflict between the Imperial minded Islam and Judaism, that began with “Prophet Mo Himself. The land of Israel for 1,400 years, has been an “Islamic” land,,, Pls imagine the Rest of this “Human Conflict” (That is Stupid Humans),,, 🌷🌷🇮🇱🌷😔🙏
Norm and his relentless pursuit of the truth on this issue is very admirable. There are very few people who have bene more consistent, thank you for having him on
Every time i listen to Norman Finkelstein break down the history of this conflict, in such detail, he leaves me speechless.
“If people were happy in Gaza, people wouldn’t give a damn about me, my book, my knowledge or anything else…
So I have to always maintain the self possession, that if I’m a known quantity it’s because thousands(10s of thousands) are now going to die in this man-made famine. It would be a sin against the memory of my parents were I to take pride in the position I’m in now…”
- Dr. Finkelstein
This man is the truth. 🇵🇸
Professor Norman is a great guy. Thanks for having him on your show.
I had never heard of Norman Finkelstein until October 7th, an event which I condemn. I immediately had confidence in what Norman was saying. He is reasonable, highly intelligent, very careful in what he says, and quite clearly has a family background and a proven track record very relevant to what he says and does. His knowledge is complete. The world needs more Norman Finkelsteins. God bless him, and God give him strength and health, because he alone is the greatest walking encyclopaedia on the subject of Israel/Palestine.
Me too
Too bad he went ot columbia to give those people a free lesson on strategy and resistance and they humiliated him.
@@yanaantonio42wait what happened? I'm sorry I'm not familiar with what you mean
@@cherryfairyy
He suggested they don't use the "river to the sea" slogan and they used it anyway
The reason he suggested it was that Zionist propaganda represents it to mean genocide
@@yanaantonio42 Is this story verified somewhere? It sounds made up.
Much respect for Prof. Norm Finklestein. A hard-working genius.
One of the greatest minds of our generation. Wonderful man.
I love this man.. i wish the people of Israel know how lucky they are to have a human being like him
He isn't an Israeli.
@@rohanharridge5579 c'est quoi alors?
@@rohanharridge5579 'people of Israel' does not necessarily mean a legal citizen of Israel. It could plausibly refer to the wider historical Isreaelites for example, and people who may in some way feel or be descended from them.
@@rohanharridge5579 are you an idiot or do you think that we are idiots ???
Jews are lucky to have him?@@kr050
I am such a Fan. Norman is inspiring.
I hope muslims and aljazeera could be half as good as Norman finkelstein because they would call out azerbaijan-turkey for doing to Armenians of Artsakh what israel wants to achieve in gaza, drive out the indigenious population of that land! You are unfortunately most of the time the same double Standard and racist as the israel regime you are fighting. Hope you will learn one day soon
Maybe you should meet more Muslims? Because i don't support what turkey and Azerbaijan doing @@woodrowwilson2597
Keep up the fight Professor. Support is growing...
Great interview. Norman is one of the most intelligent, open, captivating truth teller I've ever heard.
Nothing you could say to counter israel is inflammatory in comparison to the actions of israel now in Gaza.
What they're doing is way beyond inflammatory.
What is happening now is a textbook case of ethnic cleansing.
You’ve said what I’ve been thinking, but better than my attempt. ✔️
I live in Brighton Beach Brooklyn so I am a neighbor of yours Dr. Finkelstein. My parents are also survivors of the European Holocaust. Unlike you, I was born in the Soviet Union and I lived in Israel in the early 1960's as a young child. My memories of Israel are very good and I have been dealing with learning more about the more realistic history of Israel, compared with what I had learned. That history could have been very different had Israelis and Palestinian had different leadership and had created a society which incorporated the strengths of the different populations instead of exploiting their traumas and vulnerabilities.
I am horrified by what is happening now and what has been happening for the last decades. I don't feel Israel represents me or the aspirations of my parents. I think there has to be a shift in consciousness on both sides and I believe there will be. Unfortunately, as is usually the case, the "gods" of violence will destroy many lives in the meanwhile. Thank you for your devotion to the true principles of Judaism and humanity. As Margaret Mead pointed out, it is always a small group which has created change in the world.
True.
And it is the small group - those with political, economic and military powers - that has caused the disasters throughout the world. And too, the small group - them who fear God - who has and will correct the world.
The Zionists always knew what they wanted from moving to Israel and that was to take all of Palestine and there was never any care or thought to the Palestinian as a people ,they were seen as an object that needed to be gone so rich jews from Brooklyn could have first dibs on sea views .The way they made the genocide possible was to indoctrinate the children from nationalist Jews to hate and fear the Palestinian in the same way the ultra orthodox do to their children here in Melb .It breaks my heart to see the children here terrified of me when I say hello ,it shocked me to learn they are educated to hate and fear and despise the "Goy" .The Orthodox Jews do it to maintain the status quo of populating those in their religion and the Zionists do it to make sure thier children will have no qualms in murdering though thousands of innocent people .This is why you do not see much anger or support for the people pf Palestine ,they have taught the children well enough that they see the Palestinian as a pest ,a disease ,a non people .
It's not a double sided issue, sister. The fault is entirely with the LUNATIC/SATANIC zionistNaziDemons! And their complicit soulless minions. And then those who do not oppose the War Machine zionists control... But God Is The Most Real & Greater... Long Live Hero Prof. Finkelstein, Long Live Palestinian Heroes, the most beautiful & most betrayed People ever, and their Friends...aka humans/muslims = highest expression of humaneness & humbleness, gratefulness, truthfulness and compassion... Islam means attaining Peace with one's self & this temporary world, and finding ones Way back Home...by truly submitting to The Beloved Supreme (SWT) The Eternal One Whom Knows Best 1♥️ Peace, infinite Blessings and the supreme Guidance may be with you all
It's not a double sided issue, sister. The fault is entirely with the LUN4TIC/S4T4NIC zi0nistN4ziDem0ns! And their complicit soulless minions. And then those who do not oppose the War Machine zi0nists control... But God Is Greater & The Most Real... Long Live Hero Prof. Finkelstein, Long Live Palestinian Heroes, the most beautiful & most betrayed People ever, and their Friends...aka humans/muslims = highest expression of humaneness & humbleness, gratefulness, truthfulness and compassion... Islam means attaining Peace with one's self & this temporary world, and finding ones Way back Home...by truly submitting to The Beloved Supreme (SWT) The Eternal One Whom Knows Best 1♥️ Peace, infinite Blessings and the supreme Guidance may be with you all
It's not a double sided issue, sister. The fault is entirely with the LUN4TIC/S4T4NIC zi0nistN4ziDem0ns! And their complicit soulless minions. And then those who do not oppose the War Machine zi0nists control...
But God Is Greater & The Most Real... Long Live Hero Prof. Finkelstein, Long Live Palestinian Heroes, the most beautiful & most betrayed People ever, and their Friends...aka humans
I loved this, "... I do not have the Gaza gene. I work hard." What a mind! absolute respect for you Prof. Finkelstein❤❤. Stay blessed, God's love pouring on you.🙏
Love n prayer for you dr. Finkelstein! Free Palestine!
Free Israel 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
Everything that is being said,,, is One Sided,,, 😔😔😔 Basically,, this is a Religious Conflict between the Imperial minded Islam and Judaism, that began with “Prophet Mo Himself. The land of Israel for 1,400 years, has been an “Islamic” land,,, Pls imagine the Rest of this “Human Conflict” (That is Stupid Humans),,, 🌷🌷🇮🇱🌷😔🙏
May Allah bless Norman Finkelstein for standing up against the injustice and apparthied against the Palestinians
Seconded!! Allahu Akbar!!
Allah doesn't exist
Everything that is being said,,, is One Sided,,, 😔😔😔 Basically,, this is a Religious Conflict between the Imperial minded Islam and Judaism, that began with “Prophet Mo Himself. The land of Israel for 1,400 years, has been an “Islamic” land,,, Pls imagine the Rest of this “Human Conflict” (That is Stupid Humans),,, 🌷🌷🇮🇱🌷😔🙏
John 14.6
@@gameaddictgonewild777 you know what will win sould to Christ?? Deeds. Your deeds are your testament.
Random bible verses in the internet doesn't win any souls. Not for christ anyways..
,(speaking as a former Christian)
At a time when tribalism, nepotism and racism is rampant it is very refreshing to listen to this professor. It gives me hope. Makes me feel optimistic.
Love Norm. Thank you.
When he speaks it's 💯% accurate it's All about international law
His take in BDS confused me though. He was against it.
@@matthewstone1362 He said that boycotts don't go far enough, they're important though, they played a huge part in bringing down the former racist & apartheid colonial regime in South Africa.
Please follow the online boycotts lists, thank you.
No to Israeli goods since 2014 here 😎
Well the USA can just veto veto veto
@@michellenorris8471look up no thank you app
Great Norman Finkelstein! Thank you!
Professor Finkelstein we are learning from you word by word how to be truthful, how to hold on to truth and justice.🙏🏼❤️ thankful forever
A man who understands duty. A quality everyone else seems to have forgotten. You have my utmost respect
God Bless you Norman Finklestein. ❤
Yes, this speech stating the real horrifying history of Palestinians proves the fact that Norman is the most authentic man to speak on this issue. Great respect. 💚🙏-bmd
Also Rashid Khalidi's book 'The Hundred Years War on Palestine' and Ilann Pappe, the great Jewish historian, are also great sources.