The End of Palestine? A Lecture by Norman Finkelstein
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- Renowned scholar and social justice activist Norman Finkelstein delivers a lecture on the endangered future of Palestinian statehood at the University of Denver on April 4, 2014.
One of the last honest and true intellectuals
I want to live in a world with more Norm Finklesteins. It grieves me to no end that this remarkable, remarkable man has not been received more recognition and celebration. Emotional AND intellectual intelligence is not easy to find. This man is a treasure. Inspires me to be better.
He's poisoned your mind
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He exposes arrogant people and liars.
Their reaction like yours, says a lot about your values.
Eloquent.
A treasure.
Loves and respects humanity. Spreading immense knowledge & peace.
A fresh breeze for our hearts and minds.
Easy to listen to.
Great personality.
Courageous.
Lovely, heartwarming.
Adorable.
@@makhorubhiyo4053 , Yes but they cannot see it.
It's easy to read books by critical historians. He seems to think that after original sin America could become a perfect good boy. He is more interested in satisfying the minds of his listeners than setting out the perfect plan. He knows it can't work because of the Ideology of the Moslems which you seem to think can be resolved by international law abidance.
It’s Dec.31, 2023 and it’s tragic where the Palestinian/Israeli conflict is now. Just today, Al Jezeera reported that Israel is making strong proposals that Palestinians should re-locate elsewhere. So Netanyahu’s evil and unlawful plan to eradicate the Palestinians from Israel is unfolding rapidly. It heartbreaking and appalling to watch this from afar in Canada 🇨🇦. I have the deepest respect for Mr. Finkelstein. I have watched him in many TH-cam videos.
Even worse that Canada backs it wholly. One of the many evil nations that halted funding to UNRWA following the ICJ provisional measures announcement.
One of the very few people in this world that I appreciate.
Love this man for the work he has done to educate the world on this conflict, he is a national treasure.
Thanks for telling the truth deep respect !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ISRAEL
- Arab Supreme Court judge
- Countless Arab judges
- Arab police chiefs
- Arab MPs
- 1/3 of all Israeli doctors are Arabs (same with university professors)
- Freedom of speech & religion
- Arab government ministers
Arafat died as one of the world's richest dictators
IMF still searching for MISSING 70 BILLION $ FOR PALESTINE
ALL US, EU, Arab countries & UN aid funds stolen
Only recipient - Suha Arafat his dear & beloved wife ($40,000,000)
Escaped France (embezzlement)
Stripped of Tunisian citizenship-corruption
HAMAS COVENANT (Aug 18, ’88)
ISRAE DESTRUCTION through Jihad "Israel will exist “UNTIL JIHAD OBLITERATES IT” Article 13: “ No solution for Palestinian question except Jihad." [P. 7] Article 11: “Palestine - an Islamic land for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day.
Very informative and insightful 👍
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42:12 My guess, would be b/c "propinquity", which alludes more to 'nearness as in neighborly' rather than merely physical proximity, would make it so that the Israelis living there would experience the same constant intrusion of things like military or police presence, check points or whatever that the Palestinians would endure. It might cut down this aggravation. They'd probably share the same benefits of water, sewerage, electricity and roads or other utilities or conveniences, too.
I have been following his lectures, interviews and many engagement he has been involved with...what a great intellectual individual. Worthwhile listening to .Amandla Norman.
Norman’s optimism surprised me
Israel can change
REALLY ?
So exhausting to come across fools that think its Israel that is the bad actor. How on earth have you been convinced of such insanity? Seriously- you truly believe utter and contemptible lies. Israel doesn't need to "change" so much as literally every Arab nation around them needs to simply stop and acknowledge the obvious: that Israel as a nation exists, will continue to exist, and that they had better learn to get along or the bloodshed will continue.
Nobel Price for Norman Finkelstein.
They need to raise the micro phones, closer to the speaker
Graciaa a los que no se dejan amedrentar por esos criminales sionistas, gracias Filkenstein por tu incansable labor de mantener viva la llama de la libertad y la justicia en Palestina. Eres un orgullo para la raza humana
I love listening to Norman, very informative. And he tells the truth
Very interesting and informative. Feel like making this comments is about to age me mentally by a good 10-15 years
ISRAEL
- Arab Supreme Court judge
- Countless Arab judges
- Arab police chiefs
- Arab MPs
- 1/3 of all Israeli doctors are Arabs (same with university professors)
- Freedom of speech & religion
- Arab government ministers
Arafat died as one of the world's richest dictators
IMF still searching for MISSING 70 BILLION $ FOR PALESTINE
ALL US, EU, Arab countries & UN aid funds stolen
Only recipient - Suha Arafat his dear & beloved wife ($40,000,000)
Escaped France (embezzlement)
Stripped of Tunisian citizenship-corruption
HAMAS COVENANT (Aug 18, ’88)
ISRAE DESTRUCTION through Jihad "Israel will exist “UNTIL JIHAD OBLITERATES IT” Article 13: “ No solution for Palestinian question except Jihad." [P. 7] Article 11: “Palestine - an Islamic land for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day.
Dear Sir, I have followed you all over the Youtupe cause I recently started to watch all concerned video about Palestian n Israel , You have narated so far quiet well, but the way you discribed Egypt it showed that you need to read or watch videos about my country and what the slamic brothehood did to the intire Egyptian Popelation and the reason we had to get rid of this regim, I invite you Sir, to see our country and its acheivents,I am sure that you will change your mind about my country, wish all the best and peas be with you, salam
Introduction and vote of thanks taking up 10% of the time at the very start!
My position is stop the destruction of Palestinian property and harm to Palestinians and right of return. To protect themselves Israel should not pound the hell out of the enemy.
Right of return? You mean destruction of Israel? Palestinians can get along with other Palestinians. Hamas throu Fatah members from a tall buildings and you thing that Jews and Palestinians will get along?
Also there is no refugees after 73 years .
@LeakSource _ Which land are you talking about ? After 1948 one million Jews were expelled from Arab countries and their property, lands, savings, homes were confiscated. Those were very rich Jewish communities. They owned land that us 5 times bigger than Israel today. Who will compensate them for stolen land ,homes, bussiness? So tell me which land are you talking about? About Jewish land that is 5 times bigger then Israel today that was stolen by Arab countries?
@LeakSource _ Which land are you talking about ? After 1948 one million Jews were expelled from Arab countries and their property, lands, savings, homes were confiscated. Those were very rich Jewish communities. They owned land that us 5 times bigger than Israel today. Who will compensate them for stolen land ,homes, bussiness? So tell me which land are you talking about? About Jewish land that is 5 times bigger then Israel today that was stolen by Arab countries?
@LeakSource _ As i wrote before no hiostorians in the world: both Jews and non Jews believe in Khazarian thiory of Jewsih origin. Non. Among tens of thousands. Lingwists don't believ in this thiory , becouse in Isish klanguege there is no Turkish words at all. Also genetics refute this thiory. Tghey find in Ashkenazi Jews genes from Middle East. That is funny that non Jewish pretends to know Jewish history better than Jews. Just Funny. Nowhere in the Jewish and non Jewisg books any mention that Jews came to Eroupe from Caspian sea. Nowhere. Non a single mention.
@LeakSource _ Google Khazar theory debunked and you will find all proofs. And why I have to bring you evidence and proof? You should bring evidence and proof for this theory that no historian in the world supports and accepts.
I think BDS is going to be successful
Truth and justice always prevail
Then why are the Middle East South America and Africa still under authoritarians
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Use your critical thinking, whose interests these dictators serve and who put them in power?!
I wonder how much the facts have changed in the years since.
I know it's politically impossible, unless the Apartheid regime is dissolved and Palestinians are given the right of return for all refugees.
June 8 1967 Uss Liberty
I agree with Finkelstein on most basic points but his criticism of BDS is infantile. In the first place it's founded in Palestine by Palestinians and the BDS movement that has spread in the rest of the world clearly serves a supportive role. I'm not sure about his allegation about BDS' vanguardist claims ( I haven't seen one). I think he blows out of proportion. I have followed BDS and not seen any grandiose claims as the liberator of Palestinians. It's simply a non-violent way of pressuring Israel to end its occupation of Palestine.
I think he's a practical man. He always believed in 2 state solution. But I think now its very clear israel was never serious about 2 state solution. It slowly suffocated palestinines to the point now committing genocide and complete ethnic cleansing. I think he really believed in fair 2 state solution at this point.
Unfortunately, zionists are not going to change . They want the entire land.
This was 8 yesterday ago
Germany owes Jews a state as compensation for the holocaust
Why is no one willing to talk about it ?
I do think that is the best solution. AFTER World War II Berlin was leveled. IT was cut in half but now it is not cut in half. IT'S actually a city that is very artistic, but apparently-- with the undemocratic crackdown on freedom of speech related to this very issue --many artists are leaving.! SO I think now is the time to offer up Berlin to the Zionist Jews as their Homeland.
Needless to say, if the jews start to move outside the city limits and create settlements in Germany, Germany has an army that could smack them down and so it will not occur. FINALLY the Zionist Jews --who r Jews name only-- will be contained and yet they will have their little enclave of security in the true homeland of the aschenazi, who now politically control the Zionist state. My other solution that I have offered many times in the last 6 months is there could be an area in the ocean where they could build an island and that would be their Homeland. THEY would be safe on an island. No one could bother them on an island and assuming that the powers that be nearby said that was their spot in the ocean-- the deed would be done. China right now is building many islands off its Coast so they can say that the water surrounding them belongs to China .The Zionist state can follow suit. Problem solved😊
what's the ICJ position on right of return?
It should be equal without reference to background. I dont know what the ICJ position is - but that would be justice.
It is essential for any peace in the Region that ALL expelled Palestinian legacies be allowed to return, and all of those in a Refugee status should be repatriated.
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The volume is too low can't hear anything
I had to buy a speaker to here these lectures and connect with bluetooth
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It's interesting Adolph Reed Jr is also quite critical of BLM hear older activists talk about modern-day movements.
BLM is a horrendous Organization. The squandering of over $70 million of donated funds is extremely unethical.
The founding members have been buying up Millions of Dollars in Real Estate for personal gains. The Movement is based on false narratives and their agenda is radical and divisive with no proper design on any sort of Progressive direction ... and then there is the Tax evasion investigation.
We don't need DEI or Critical Theory to move forward as a Society ... We only need to get back on track by recognizing the Enlightenment Values of Fairness, Equality and Merit.
Peace and Love.
Why American Gov who loves Israel, does not give one of its state to entity of Israel to build their Jewish state. Florida sounds good? good warm weather? I want them to leave Middle East once for all alone! Palestinians are suffering for 75 years and now dealing with genocide! Please choose another land to build for expansion of your Jewish World.
the volume is too low
5:20 debated whom?
Martin Indyk
the 1st one out of 4 parts
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Imagine if they lost "their" Israel and had to wander some more...
@Shayla Holloway they would use their nuclear weapons first
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Finkelstein for president!
MORALITY IS CLOUR BLIND
Turkey colonized Cypress in 1974 (war). Erected a demonic wall to divide Muslims & Christian Cypriots into settlements. (APARTHEID ON STEROIDS!)
Since 1985, butchered 35,000 Independence seeking Kurdish freedom fighters seeking to regain ancestral Kurdistan (ILLEGAL TURKISH SETTLEMENT)
Most critical Turkish journalists & countless judges-in jail
Palestine-Executing homosexuals & Christianity
One million butchered in Syria
FREE TIBET! China conquered Tibet in 1956 (2 million dead) & transformed her into a giant Chinese satanic ILLEGAL CHINESE SETTLEMENT.
Incarcerated 2 million Muslim Uyghurs into hard labour & indoctrination camps. Sterilizing Muslim women. Shaving Muslim men beards. Barbaric & demonic ethnic genocide
Russia bombarded Independence seeking Chechnya back to the Stone Age. 200,000 men, women & children killed in Grozny in ’93. (ILLEGAL RUSSIAN SETTLEMENT)
Return California (ILLEGAL SETTLEMENT) to Mexico
BDS Turkey’s tourism, Russian vodka, Chinese sweet & sour sauce, U.S. exports & your very own relative ‘morality’, intellectual corruption & nauseating bias at once!
Does anyone else actually believe that this is the end of Palestine?
Made the dessert Bloom?? They were given a dessert only? Look how they could have blessed all the Palestinian people, but the later were envious .
1:40:31 So Genocide’s are good? 🫨
1:34:42 There are 200k Israeli’s in Berlin??? 😳
1:39:07 Japan killed 26 million Chinese in World War 2? 😲
Why hasnt the ICJ issued laws create world peace, guided by Mr. Ficklestein?
So Mr. Ficklesteins has only broken little rules & regulations & says that its ok to have proportional sins of killings, just before a peace agreement & everybody then obeys the international law, while they continue to point the finger & mock. Man why hasn't Ghandhi established everlasting peace in India? Why hasnt ICJ issued laws for world peace?
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God would never accept a 2-state solution. The Jews are considered Disbelievers, Believers cannot voluntarily cede land to Disbelievers. Muhammad would turn in his grave.
Fink.
Stating the obvious about BDS posers.
Israel’s new immigrant absorption minister, Pnina Tamano-Shata, told a Knesset committee on Wednesday that she expects 90,000 immigrants to come to Israel in the next year and a half. THE NEED LAND TO BUILD HOUSES
They need to stay in thier country!
They don't need to steal other people's land to build houses !
Buy lands in your country or in another country and build your houses!
There was never a”beginning” to what you call “Palestine”.
Zionist =Nazi =Evil
No more zionism worldwide.
Your filthy hasbara holds no power here 🤡
Would love to see a debate between this guy & Benny Morris. Heck, I’d love to see this guy admit ANYTHING the Arabs did to exacerbate the situation. He makes the noble savage error: Israel is all wrong, & “Palestinians” are all perfect.
Serious scholars of history know better.
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@kellygarvin9006 Looking at the maps of Palestine and "Israel" between 1948 and now is all we need to know
Ok very one should just go back where they came from!!??Including the Palestinians they came from Arabia???
Who told you that?
Oh so they go steal Palestinians houses to they can live lol 😂 I would rather have no home than hurt/kill innocent people.
Palestinians are romans. the province called Syria Palaestina or judea (origin jewish state) (135-390) roman empire taking jewish homeland. but when prophet muhammad died (632) roman losing their territories to rashidun caliphate under abu bakr. and later Theodor Herzl create a zionism ideology (1894) to kill all who want to stop their dream create a state called israel now. and crusaders has occupation palestine too but ayyubiyah caliphate under saladin taking back yerrusalem again.
JEWISH NAKBA - 800,000 Arab Jews forced to flee homes, business, money, properties, mistresses, the whole nine yards in supersonic speed (mind you) to avoid looming pogroms by affectionate, cuddly… albeit genocidal Arab mobs of annihilistic inclinations ((if you catch my drift… ) YIKES !!!
You are ideologically possessed by manny a platitude of deliberately one sided intent. Factual corroboration (unbiased & empirical) on your behest may add shreds of moral, intellectual. & cognitive viability to your otherwise non-existent & easily debunked line of defrocked arguments
The truth will set you free
I have a few points to ask about:
What about Uti possidetis juris in 1948. This rule is applied for many countries but only Israel is singled out.
If Palestinian refugees pass their status to children, I think the same should be done to anyone, especially minorities that have been prosecuted for millennia.
Because Palestine didn't have a sovereign entity, calling Israel an occupier doesn't fulfill the definition
Peace agreement with Jordan and Egypt reinforces the notion that Judea and Samaria are part of spoils of wars and hence belong to Israel.
At the end of the initial struggle in Palestine, part of the country was under the rule of the newly created Jewish state, part under the rule of neighboring Arab governments. A significant number of Arabs remained in the territories under Jewish rule.
It was taken then as axiomatic, and has never been challenged since, that no Jews could remain in the areas of Palestine under Arab rule, so that as well as Arab refugees from the Jewish-controlled areas, there were Jewish refugees from the Arab-controlled areas of mandatory Palestine, not just settlers, but old, established groups, notably the ancient Jewish community in East Jerusalem, which was totally evicted and its monuments desecrated or destroyed. . . .
[There were also] Jewish refugees . . . from Arab countries, where the Jewish communities either fled or were driven out, in numbers roughly equal to those of the Arab refugees from Israel. . .
For Arab refugees in Palestine, very elaborate arrangements were made and very extensive financing provided. This contrasts not only with the treatment of Jews from Arab countries, but with the treatment of all the other refugees at the time.
The partition of Palestine in 1948 was a trivial affair compared with the partition of India in the previous year, which resulted in millions of refugees -- Hindus who fled or were driven from Pakistan into India, and Muslims who fled or were driven from India into Pakistan. This occurred entirely without any help from the United Nations, and perhaps for that reason the refugees were all resettled.
One could go back a little further and talk about the millions of refugees in Central and Eastern Europe -- Poles fleeing from the Eastern Polish areas annexed to the Soviet Union and Germans fleeing from the East German areas annexed to Poland. Millions of them, of both nationalities, were left entirely to their own people and their own resources.
More excuses to demonize the victims and justify racist violence... typical.
@@eb3279 but is it false?
Jews can return to any country they have left.Palestinians can not return to Palestine.
Yes
@@eduardoserrao7372 absolutely
Shalom Aleichem
I say shalom, but don't get me wrong, when I say, the majority of people on the planet are not qualified to comment on Yisrael, Jews, The State of Israel, Evereet Yehudah, don't get offended by my word equations, many who attempt to sum up "Aelian Capitolina and Palestina" with a modern day opinion based in non learn propagandize based ideology, taught in ignorance through Church doctrine, has lead humanity into a direction without direction. As long as one is lead by the 5 senses, then one can never be qualified to understand such a MYSTERY based in INFINITY!
The populace has been lead down a path beyond the 1ST & 2nd commandment, for a very long time, whereas the 1st cause has been placed in a comfort zone, where carnality has become AN INTERIM virtual reality effect, where fleecing flesh occupant energy sources, uninfluenced too and by true purpose, which has not been received, much less administered by those qualified in the modern day, to teach it, are imprisoned!
So then, the adversarial mission becomes as the scripture teaches "forseeming" it has endured without stopping since the EIN GEDI rebellion (The Garden).
And its not the fault of flesh animated spirits either, its the fault of the commandment dodging populace, who despite final analysis examples, continue to follow the immorality based in an illusion based society, absent of the Torah as a constitution. Now this may sound like dogma, but, it isn't.
When I mention Torah, I want to explain, that I do not relate to stories and verses of gossip and history, I relate soley to the 61 3.......And if you don't know what I mean, it speaks to the point.
The UN, since you want to mention this systematizing machine, is not based in a moral based society, cognitive of its origin, its only interest is the scientific program, set in place by those who are running solar systems analysis for higher physical authorities and there interest.
What was granted at Sinai, endows the recipient with "chokmat", wisdom, only with this, will your eyes see beyond that which is perceived, and your ears will hear beyond that which has already been heard. For the 5 senses by which one perceives the world, can fool you, mastering the 6th sense is important in measuring material to light and carnal concepts to eternal ideals.
What a stupid proposition. As a US Citizen, we donate $3.8 billions annually from our - American - tax money to the existence of Israel. Something that is being top off with even more special arm contracts.
You're right not everyone had enough knowledge to comment on this so please STFU!
Who attached whom in 1948? You lie without even blinking.