Five Pin Bowling Explained | HARDER THAN TENPIN BOWLING??
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- What is five pin bowling and how does it differ from tenpin bowling? PBA Professional Mitch Hupé is back with the JR Pro Shop team to help explain this challenging variation of bowling!
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The sound no one forgets - hitting the headpin straight on and leaving a 4 pin split.
Or sometime the pin bounces back and takes out a 3 or a 2, seen that plenty of times
I once went to the Philippines and one of the alleys had candlepin, duckpin, regular 10 pin and a "pro" alley, the difference was one was wood lanes and the other was synthetic, spent about 6 hours there trying out all the different games, was really fun, I wish more alleys had that
Awesome
I had the same experience when I was kid and was so amazing that I can still remember seeing feet and the pins manually getting reset by hand.
Dude, can you tell me more about where this place is? Id love to go
@@cllxc This was many years ago 20+, i'm sure it was in the metro manila area, remember it being in a business complex underground, it was kinda weird and found it in the directory. My goal was to bowl in every lane i could find there, back then, people would stop and watch and soon an audience would grow if you were decent enough. fun times back then
did all the variations of bowling have machines or pinboys? I had heard of the ducks in the Philippines but not candlepins.
Thanks for covering my variation of bowling. Been bowling five pin for 23 years and still love it.
5-Pin is where it’s at! Been doing it for 20+ years!
Well well well, Mitch trying our game! Does that mean we try 10 Pin? Then maybe challenge Mitch to a match?
i have a bit of a head cold and saying "mitch to a match" just sounds funny =)
This would be amazing to watch!
That would be amazing
When is the challenge happening lol @5pinuniverse
im originally from quebec, canada, and am a very casual bowler. we play 10pin and duckpin here in QC so when i moved to alberta, i was very surprised when the local alley had ONLY 5pin lanes. still enjoyed it a lot. never heard about it before then
I’ve never tried 10 pin but I’ve always done 5 pin…… it’s all on how you hit the middle pin (hit it off Center and you get more strikes)
My first job was working at a 5 pin bowling centre. I am a bowler of almost 30 years as well. Seen a lot of changes to the game over the years, but the one thing with synthetic lanes is how you place the ball upon delivery, if you drive the ball into the lane it will bounce and probably head to the right side or the left side of the lane. Balls themselves weigh 3 pounds 4 ounces to 3 pounds 12 ounces. Diameter of the ball is 4/34 to 5 inches. It’s practical to have a smooth delivery for the best results. I love this game, and your guys video is amazing. Subscribed to your channel, look forward to future videos!
I work in a center that has tenpin and candlepin and have a duckpin house not too far from me. I'd love to try fivepin at some point!
Tried candlepin in Bangor. I might have hit the head pin once. It was a very humbling experience.
I'm from the Baltimore area, onced bowled a summer league in ducks for fun. It was loadsof fun once I expected to shoot 110 instead of 210.
Candlepin is by far the hardest form of bowling I believe, I grew up bowling both tenpin and candlepin and I prefer my candlepin any day of the week
I've never tried 5 pin, but after bowling 10 pin for more than 30 years I shot my first ever duckpin game a few years ago. It really messed with my brain. With virtually no weight to the ball I could only think of my hand/arm. My feet and legs felt like disconnected noodles. I lost track of how many steps I was taking and even bowled wrong footed once on accident. By the second game it started to feel better and by the third I was OK. At least until I got to 10 pin league a few days later. Luckily by the end of league practice I felt OK again.
I have been bowling 5 pin since i was a kid. Love the game and i have tried 10 pin and find 5 pin is much harder since we don't use oil on 5 pin lanes.
Actually most bowling centres do use lane oil.
Had a feeling I recognized that house. Lucky 9 was a fun house to bowl at. Don’t feel like trekking out to Richmond any time soon tho 😂
The easiest way to get a strike is to hit the pocket from an angle, just like 10 pin, the difference being how you get to the pocket. A lot of people curve it still, which I find to be very difficult to control. I like to bowl at an angle from the headpin. I stand at the far right and bowl towards the headpin, that has helped me to a 205 average.
You dotn need curve. The best throw straight to the right of the head pin. That’s it.
@Sam Thibert I am pretty sure that's what I said. People do it, but I don't think it is as effective due to the difficulty controlling the ball each time.
However, throwing the bowl straight down the middle of the lane and hitting just to the left/right of the HP is definitely harder. That's why I like to angle it into the pocket. Gives you the most leeway when hitting the HP
@@FerrisWheel4 nah see you’re wrong. You just gotta roll the bowl and hope it goes where you want it. That’s the real strat
@Sam Thibert Nah, see you're wrong.
Nah trying to hit the pocket from an angle just increases your chances of leaving a corner pin standing. Its better to throw straight at either side of the headpin.
Try candlepin next
camera directly behind getting the calves of the player was a good decision.
Similar to duckpin balls, not quite candlepin. 5-pin balls are about 5" in diameter, candles is 4.5".
Also if you want a really hard came, try candlepins.
Sizes vary in 5 pin
@@jrproshop Hence "About". Same as the Ducks. I think they can be up to 5.25" max.
I know in ducks you cannot use candlepin balls, as the Sherman pinsetters will actually dump them into the duckpin saucers, and break them.
Petition to get every PBA bowler to do five pin
Glad to see more Mitch, Supercool dude.
Got my first bowling ball black widow ghost pearl because of how he made it look in the review
I just got one from my dad for Christmas. Can't wait to get it drilled and see what it does
10 pin is way easier then all the other Canadian forms of bowling, I will say curving the smaller balls are in some minor ways more fun, maybe a little 10 pin candle pin on here would be more intresting, great vid none the less!
than. Just trying to help!
Super fun game, it’s very simple once you find the right angle to attack but still very easy to mess up
I found an easier way at least for a beginner when I was younger. My sis and I played ten pin league Saturday and my parents and grandparents played 5 pin league sundays so one day I was watching my mom play ( I was 10 or 11 at the time with an average of around 100 in my ten pin league).
She didnt have a great game or anything but I noticed she was playing from the far right with little ball rotation and aimed straight to center. She got a lot less action but using simple geometry, when she was accurate it was an easy strike. Coming in at 45 degrees and hitting half the head pin would drive the left side pins down and the deflection was like a magnet for the right side.
Their opponents had bowled away so there was a bunch of free time on the lane afterwards and I tried her technique and hit 8 strikes in ten frames.
I tried it in ten pin the following week as I was waiting on a new ball with one of the house balls and threw a personal best 228 and a 650 triple that day! I dont think I ever broke 140 (maybe once) before that day and our basement dwelling team caught fire and won the league thanks to my horrible handicap coupled with what would have been over 180 avg had I started the league like that. My new ball arrived and it was (been many years I forget the name) one of the ones with the finger holes you only get the first joint into. Previously I had been dying to get my hands on that ball and throwing some legit hooks but instead I just kept throwing from far right with little rotation and aiming for the pocket and still kept insane results.
We need to see G-moo play two handed 5-pin bowling! 😁
fun to watch!
By the way, anything under 150 is a round.
Tenpin is definitely easier. I’m a five pin bowler who’s only thrown tenpin a small handful of times and I managed a 214 my first game the other day and a 565 triple.
I grew up in the Boston area where candlepin bowling is very popular here. I never got into it, I've always had an interest in ten pin. I was a lot better at that than I was in candlepin bowling.
i wanna try 5-pin someday this looks like so much fun
Well...that was a gigglefest!
Old habits die hard. My straight ball turns the 10-Pin game into Duckpin: 8 spares for 170. :)
Funny how 5 pin bowling is so rare in some places. It's the opposite here. Most bowling alleys here only have 5 pin lanes but there's one bowling alley that has 24 five pin lanes and six 10 pin lanes. I grew up playing 5 pin, but i rather play 10 pin.
Did 3 pin bowling at the Corner Bar in Grill in St.charles, Missouri
1:42 the way he looked back is the way i look back when somewhen says spare it up!
I need to visit that alley one day and come down there and practice along with having fun with you guys 😀👍🏾
I grew up in the Washington, DC area and only bowled duckpins until I moved to Illinois as an adult. I've never heard of five pin bowling. Definitely difficult.
This is cool. Thank you
Same in Goose Bay was great fun started me bowling ten pin
Candlepin and duckpin are a lot harder than 10 pin
I bowl five pin and ten pin did bowl duck pin also, am hooked with 10 pin now but still bowl 5 pin 2 nights a week
Great vid. Very tough to get lucky pinfalls in 5 pin. Small error in the intro 1:08 regarding the scoring of a spare. It's 15+ next shot, not 10+. I've never been Candlepin bowling, but it looks extremely difficult. Love all forms of bowling. Highest is 276 in 10 pin with approx. 205 average. Joining a 5 pin league this summer because it's easier on my plant leg after suffering a major knee injury playing rugby 8 years ago.
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I will challenge a PBA tour bowler to 5 pin. I would love to show them how its done!
Went to BC and tried 5 pin back in the day, both of us threw the first few shots trying to hook it like 10 pin, Bad bad idea. It was fun though, I like the game.
candlepin is common in my area, i love this type of bowling. Duckpin, Five pin and candlepin all seem to have the same concept of making it hard
I grew up bowling candlepins and never even tried tenpin until I was a teenager. We always thought everybody had both kinds.
5-pin in Niagara region (l live near Buffalo NY), it seemed an all or nothing proposition.. 4 or 5 marks per game and a couple were strikes but managed to punch a 5 or 3 solo through the rack, sometimes 2x, in the 'bad' frames.
Quite a few years ago I went to the Bowling Hall of Fame in St Louis where they had a couple duckpin lanes in the basement. I tried that and had a blast. Wish they had some duckpin in the South.
Five pins and the other small ball games (duckpins, candlepins) are easier to try than tenpins, because the ball is a lot easier to control than the huge tenpin ball. However, those games are much harder to score in because of the smaller pins; nobody’s ever scored 300 in duckpins or candlepins. It reminds me of the tagline for the board game Othello (reversi): “A minute to learn, a lifetime to master.”
A perfect game in 5 pin is 450, I myself have witnessed a 410 while my best score is 352
I love to try 5 pin. It looks harder but I love a good challenge.
Why isn’t Barks playing up 5?
No holes to get his 200 rpm
I spent a season on a 5-pin league before COVID, the balls are definitely very easy to curve - and no hidden tricks like 10-pin balls (though I somehow like 10 pin more)
i live in Connecticut so i've done duckpin quite a bit which is really fun but a pain in the ass - candlepin i tried once and was really damn hard ... never tried 5 pin
What bowling alley is this and where? This is super nice
Lucky 9 Lanes. BC
I want to try the different varieties, but I've never lived anywhere that had any of them
Do a updated ball vid with jimoo
I played with string pins and just actually rolling it made it hook, right off the tips of the fingers.
You should do a vid on duck pin
Drink every time one of them says, "This is hard!"
I have tried candlepin in New England. It's very hard coming from tenpin.
I wish jungo was bowling with barks because he would’ve been all over him for flagging the head pin every frame lol
I tried duck pin in Massachusetts and it was impossible. I bowled an 83
Exactly right
I grew up in Nova Scotia, and bowled candlepin till I moved to Newfoundland 50 yrs ago, and switched to 5 pin. Bowled in 2 leagues and had a 235 avg for about 10 years, and bowled one perfect game. After hip replacement a year ago, have trouble staying with the shot and bowl around 180. Candlepin is a great game, still do it occasionally, but soo much harder to score. Never been a perfect game.
I'm trying to go from five to ten and trying to brut force straight strikes I did get 154
Candlepin is impossible, Duckpin is hard, 5-Pin is challenging, I'm too weak for 10-Pin. I could never bowl Candlepin competitively: I'd have too many expectations and would not be able to remain calm. :)
candlepins is frustrating but that's part of the charm too. That ball in tenpin is so big too me it doesn't have enough variety.
@@mikeforest8405 Indeed, I find candlepin charming in part because I'm not really trying to win. Every strike is a pleasant surprise.
I bowl duckpins twice per week in league in the Baltimore area. I was a tenpin bowler for years and then bowled ducks in scratch money leagues . I bowled ducks and tens during the same season a couple of years and my tenpin average got into the 190's and my ducks got up to 127 and then i quit for 30 years. Enjoy both, just a different game.
what about duck pin
I'm a somewhat average 5 pinner. I have a hard time throwing a 12 pound ball. I tried duckpin 20 years ago and score in the 70s.
5 pin is very different. The lanes are oiled to protect the heads and not to change the characteristics. The ball is uniform inside and doesn't have the reactive coverstocks, think hard urethane at most. If it makes you feel better, I think I almost broke my wrist the first time I tried to throw a 10-pin bowling ball. I think once you come to terms with that, you'll at least do better at 5 than I do at 10.
Shooting at 1-2-3-7-10 with a smaller ball? Would be interesting to see this with a regular ball....
One of those 5 pin balls looks suspiciously like a Storm Lucid 😂
What bowling alley is that
Hi
Most 5 pin bowlers don't use the pins to aim, there are spots about 10 feet down the lane, you figure out what spot helps you hit the pocket. Just easier to hit a spot closer to you.
Wear do you get those bowling balls
They’re not too hard to find in Canada, any pro shop here should be able to order them. In the states, you’d probably find some in the northeast states. It’s the same ball that’s used for duckpin bowling.
I would guess EPCO, out of Medway Mass. would make them. They make candlepin and duckpin, as well as balls for bocce, I believe.
I did duck pin with my family once. I jokingly said I was going to hook it. My dad laughed at me. 2 handed hooked it on the first throw and got a strike. Walked away picturing the thug life gif stuff while my dad shook his head. Good times
Yep for sure you need to slow that ball down boys so the pins actually bounce I watched my five-year-old nephew years ago rolling ball down the aisle it was moving so slow and when she finally connected every pin hit the floor it was crazy funny
Is the lane oiled?
Great question. Yes. But just the first 15 feet or so
Yes, but typically not with patterns. The difference is often just how much oil is on the lane (or how long it's been since being oiled)
Even though the 5 pin is in the middle it’s really tough when the pattern is flat. There are no many ways to miss this spare.
Grew up playing 5 pin here in Canada. 10 pin just feels so weird to me lol.
Lemme guess, roll the ball knock down the pins?
As A Canadian 5 Pin Is String Loaded To The Pins
Why do the pins in 5 Pin bowling have those blue rings around the bottom of the pins?
Those are rubber bands to increase the action of the pins. They are about 1" thick.
Only played 10 pin, heard of duck pin and never heard of 5 pin.
duck pin......after throwing the ball thru the 1/5 slot (real duck pin ..no rubber around the pin)....5 times in a row ....i gave up!
Bowled both. Have been to nationals for both as a youth and in my opinion 10 pin is harder to be a competitive tournament bowler. Much more knowledge and skill required
My highest is 388
been bowling 5 pin my whole life 240 avg lol
Are you fans of comedian Steve Byrne? Thw thumbnail poses are "casual". LOL
Leg camera angle
Surprised you don't have more comments calling you out for the mistake at 1:08. Spares are worth 15 + next shot, not 10.
I pretty much only ever do 5-pin. My best score is 172.
A spare is 15 + first ball
I been candlestick it was way harder
It looked like you guys were pin bowling. It's way better to spot bowl in 5 pin. Not sure if your 10 pin game is like if you pin bowl too
C'mon guys you're Canadians -- you've never bowled 5 pln before? Accuracy is everything in 5 pin.
Bowl 5 pin here and there. We just suck haha
I bowl 5 pin. Its way harder than 10 pin..... !
There's no way anybody has thrown a 450 game, right?
It actually isn't that rare. Candle pin and duckpin perfect games haven't happened, but having only 5 pins instead of 10 makes it a lot easier.
They're not rare, but they're not exactly common either. Think I know of about 15 or 16 perfect games so far this season.
In a typical season, there'll be somewhere between 20 and 40 perfect games bowled across Canada.
@@zandy1569 it's definitely hard, but not impossible. Your top bowlers typically get it in their career (sometimes a few of them), and some never achieve it despite elite bowlers.
It's a lot harder than it looks.
Duckpin. Once a year and by far more difficult.
Bocce bowling? Who knew!?!