Some Amazon tool redemption after the last one sucked (SeeSii high torque). The starwars Ewok has been added to our list of tools that don't suck accordingly www.amazon.com/shop/torquetestchannel Here's hoping Ridgid makes more tools in this SubCompact line that are as good as the last two on the channel. As always, the creator of this channel is working in product development for Astro Tools who also make impact wrenches (air), always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!
Can y'all test the power tools that Auto Parts Stores like the Diehard brand at Advance Auto Parts, the Duralast brand at Autozone, the Power Torque brand at O'Reilly's, and the Carlyle Tools at Napa just to name a few. I see them on the shelf but never know if they are any good, they seem to be a good price but no idea how well they preform. If amazon and harbor freight tools are being tested why not the tools that are at the national parts stores. Would like to see how they hold up.
The problem with the Amazon brands is that longevity is a total unknown and even one purchase of the tool to the next may not be the same. It's a total crap shoot.
Can you do videos about a brand with a good warranty? Rigid claims lifetime, but they have "approved" warranty shops like every 500 miles or so making taking them in super inconvenient. So although all the other brands aren't as good, you can get them serviced a hell'uva easier than crappy Rigid.
Thanks for the sunday entertainment guys! Don’t even really use or need power tools outside of DIY, but for some reason the way you guys present stuff makes it entertaining even for me
911 is wicked too. I bought the 921 and gave my 911 to a buddy who is a diesel tech and he uses the crap out of it. I actually in some ways liked it better than the 921 as it was simple with no settings. I never really use them anyway I keep it on high and use my finger
I really hope that eventually the TTC chanel grows big enough to sell their own tool creations. Like having an impact wrench that was designed and sold by TTC would be so cool.
There is an impact wrench designed by TTC, sold by Astro. The one without a handle, just a hose! There’s also a weighed socket they designed that I believe will be sold by Astro.
Go back and watch a few videos Torque Said that the genius management at ASTRO snatched him up for their engineering department. Since then he has made some changes and performance boosts to tools. Woot!!! But what we appreciate most about TTC is their commitment to being unbiased by letting the numbers do the talking. I am happy that they always stay transparent about what Torque works on just in case there might be a bias.
An improvement for sure on Ridigd's part! That Ewok is...something else, in a good way! If they offered a good warranty, even a one-year warranty, we would start seeing funny names on many job sites. 🐺🔧
th-cam.com/video/XmodVwFG3xk/w-d-xo.html Just got one. It's actually very good 👍🏾 they have a one year replacement no questions asked warranty. They send you a new one and you send back the broken one. Was very surprised at the quality of it when I opened it. It hits very hard and no corners were cut. Amazon is a real gamble but Torque Test channel found a gem!
The one thing about that this channel shows numbers only. We dont get to see durability, and longevity. Thats why people still pay good money for tool we know will last.
This channel is single handedly responsible for my love to rigid and is the reason Rigid is my only platform. the only reason Im gonna buy Milwaukee eventually is because of the orbital polisher
I don't really understand comments like this. Milwaukee and DeWalt have led the cordless tool market since dinosaurs roamed the earth, have the best lineups, more solutions overall than any of the competition, and generally have longer lifespans. I get price/warranty come into play, and the type of work these tools are used for, but only within the last few years have the smaller brands picked up the pace, and only with select tools. As a brand, Milwaukee and DeWalt wipe the floor with everything else except Makita. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to see competitive tools from other companies enter the marketplace, but I simply can't wrap my head around anyone being a cheerleader for them.
@@InuranusBrokoff The rigid High torque out performs everything else proven results on this channel, it’s cheaper than MKE, has a lifetime service agreement, and so far I have had my Rigid low torque and high torque for 5 years no issues. I really just wish they made a orbital polisher for it
@InuranusBrokoff id disagree im a auto tech i was soley milwaukee until i kept going through batteries, decided to try ridgid because specs were similar, price was better and warranty on batteries. For me milwaukee got stagnate because they know they make good tools so prices went up and quality didnt necessarily follow..
I use Ridgid tools...I have 30ish Ridgid tools I also have FLEX...but I am not disappointed in my Ridgid tools...I don't use them to make a living so anything and everything I need to do in my house or in my garage or on my property they have never failed.. I've never even had to use the LSA... And I've had the brand for over 8 years..(I give my older tools to my brother or coworkers)... I'm glad to see them getting some love...
@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r nice... I would trust them in a professional setting..I happen to work in a facility that provides tools...but if they didn't I would use my Ridgid and be fine I think
Awesome review. I remember a lot people belly aching about the direction Ridgid has been going with their tools. There was a ton of talk saying Ridgid is going to be fazed out (Den of tools). Well look at this. Look at their quickly expanding outdoor line of tools. Look at the new and and better drill and 4 mode impact. The new and better redone subcompact drill and impact. Sure some are rehashed but they are improved in looks, ergo's, performance and in most cases features. You can't go wrong with Ridgid. They are always up there with the top handfull of brands. Thanks for the accurate and entertaining reviews.
Den of tools has such BS opinions on some things that's it's head scratching how he's become what he has. Dude's never used tools to make his living (outside of TH-cam shilling), but is considered an authority on tools.
@@armedappalachian I personally don't know him or what he did/does for a living but we have gone back and forth on these comment posts. He sure does have a hatred for Ridgid and a couple other brands. He didn't seem to have a users view/knowledge of tools though.
Thank for this! I was on the fence for a compact and am already in Milwaukee and Ridgid, the price spreads was a lot, I went with the Ridgid after viewing this. Thank you sir!
In today’s world there’s no reason a compact impact wrench should be over 5” long. Plenty of companies are getting great numbers out of a small package just like this Rigid showed us. Because when you go for a compact impact it’s typically because you need it to fit in a tight space or don’t want to wield a bunch of extra weight. I really feel like the foot pounds/in should be weighted more heavily in this category or move these bigger “compact” impacts to a different category. Either way another great video TTC and good job Rigid on pushing the envelope to make things smaller but still powerful.
I’d say that TTI has probably decided that it’s not necessary to differentiate Ridgid and Milwaukee performance so much anymore since they speak to different audiences. Kinda a Chevy/GMC pickup relationship in some ways. Also, as you say, they are taking a different approach to the same goal (M12/M18). Plumbers and electricians are going to keep embracing Ridgid and auto and motorcycle techs like myself will stick with my Milwaukee platform. Besides, there’s more to my decision process than just outright performance like warranty, ergonomics, lighting and sound.
Ridgid is owned by Emerson they license to TTI that being said, milwaukee and ridgid, have their own research and development that are separate from each other. I can tell you that I know, for a it fact does not work that way with subsidiaries of TTI. And I can also tell you being a contractor for 23 years more electricians use Milwaukee then rigid. Milwaukee started out as a Sparkys tool and is still one of their largest bases. Rigid is for sure a plumbers tool not as much as an electricians, I don’t know where that started on TH-cam?
@@steffendetrick 1) Perception is reality. 2) TTI makes many tool for Emerson and they most certainly do establish boundaries and positioning. Do you think any corporation will allow their halo brand to be eclipsed by a partner brand? 3) Tool users and opinions are regional. In New England I saw mostly Dewalt in the hands of contractors and electricians over the decades. Electricians buying impacts for occasional use though (not drills) would opt for inexpensive Ridgid. 4) People are allowed to have an opinion that doesn't align with yours. TH-cam (and the Internet itself) didn't even exist when I started in the trades.
I've yet to even see Rigid on the jobsite. It's all Dewalt or Milwaukee with some of the corded tools being a kind of HF tool or other less known brand name. With that said, when I finish my tradesman I'll probably get a rigid tool kit. Partially, so no one can steal/borrow my tools or batteries, but it also seems like a better deal overall.
@@afellowinnewengland6142 you can say perception is reality whatever. I wasn’t commenting on your perception or your opinion I was telling you the reality is they have their own R&D facilities. Your perception has nothing to do with reality and the day-to-day operations at TTI, rigid Milwaukee, Ryobi, etc. I’ve done work for TTI in Jackson, I was telling you not giving you my opinion. And no electricians don’t use rigid tools for the most part. Yes, you are entitled to have your opinion but somethings are not a matter of opinion they are a matter of fact.
As an electrician for 16 years. Milwaukee really has the most tools available for my trade. Sometimes there are other brands that out perform Milwaukee in certain testing. What I find most important is that Milwaukee can still get the job down even if it takes a little longer on occasion. And to choose the brand that's best suited for your line of work and try to stick with 1 battery line so you don't have 5 different types of batteries and 5 different chargers.
@@PaulRudd1941 I've always been pro ridgid and even owned a kit of their 24v line. While I've become more Milwaukee because of my line of work, I still recommend ridgid to certain people based on their needs.
I am glad that Ridgid rectified the power situation with this tool. I wish they would make up their damn minds on the lights though. I love the front mounted lights like this model and the octane model. The gen 1 sub compacts and gen 2 impact tools moved the lights to the base which I hate. Hopefully they will release new impact models with the lights back on the front. Unfortunately I already have the first gen subcompact impact, which while powerful enough for most of what I do with it has the light on the base and it doesn't light up most work situations. And that Ework, well just damn is all I have to say about that.
I think TTI uses ridgid/ AEG as a testing platform for what they will do with milwaukee. It kinda gets them real world testing but doesn't hurt milwaukee name
@@skunkycatog The ridgids are just rebadged AEG which tti does own, but you are correct about the name being licensed. Rigid has no real involvement with the design of the tools. Having the lifetime warranty makes it a great platform for trial and error tools as if they are not good or poor quality they can just swap them with a newer model when warrantied.
@@skunkycatog no, your wrong. They do make them. Even this channel has tore a Ridgid and Milwaukee mid-torque apart and swapped parts. Other channels have tore Milwaukee and Ridgid apart and have shown they were made the same. They are the same The electrics were very similar. Branding on the pieces were the same on the inside. You need to do more homework man.
That EWORK throwing down... Very surprising. The Amazon tools are such a gamble many look identical other than name and color and use similar knockoff Makita style packs and your channel has proven that some work really well and are well worth the money and some are well, just junk... Roll the dice! Thanks for all the work you guys put into this.
The m12 stubby is my favorite tool by a long shot. I’m an automotive mechanic and it’s my go to for everything except extremely tight places and extremely tight bolts. It does 90% of what I need. And with the 6 amp hour it runs forever. Also for the other mechanics out there: get the m12 under hood light! That thing is life changing.
Great video, thanks for the information. I've got one of the lesser-Ridgid compacts and they're great for taking off parts at the junkyard. The compactness and fairly high torque beats a wrench in many cases. I also use a DeWalt-to-Ridgit battery adapter because I'm "Team Ol' Yeller" in my other tools. It works just fine. Suggestion: Adding a rotational torque sensor might improve your measurements. In industry, torque sensors are used to monitor motor and machine performance, they're basically just a metal rod with strain gauges that sense twisting. For your applications, a sensor good to 2000 Nm (1475 ft-lb) would work well. A simple bridge circuit would allow you to capture the peak stall torque on a meter or oscilloscope, with a static bolt-head fixture. No shade on your current methods, they are very good and entertaining as well. Cheers!
I love the hand slap and give your brother the unplugged controller analogy, it hits the nail on the head because Let me tell you a trend I’ve noticed and seen play out time and time again..Ridgid releases a good tool or feature that is different than the other options on the market, so it sells well and is just a winner all around it will disappear from the Ridgid line and around two years later will be in a red uniform reporting for duty…. You don’t see the Ridgid 12 V tools anymore because m12 tool that part of the pie, I mean was it for the better ? Imo yes but just an observation
I have done the exact same thing. Im quite happy with my tools thus far. M12 just has so many oddball tools that if you need one its hard to ignore, and Ridgid 18V just works.
Totally agree, I’m now going for m12 per size. HD cutting deals like m12 hammer drill& impact, 2amp,4amp, charger and bag $219 plus a free 5amp! Online only. My last Ridgid was octane 71/4” brushless nib mark down last fall from $190 to $85! Same 4 amp battery’s, 6 so far, oldest 4yrs. 6 ridgid main tools so far no failures. And forever warranty
I’m not sure you test battery longevity or charge sustenance; however these are of utmost importance when rating value. I have had a Rigid tool and experienced poor battery endurance. Your testing is awesome and appreciated. THX!
I have an oddity of tool. I took my old Milwaukee 2753 and using the existing rotating assembly, swapped in the anvil of a 2755b. 2753 has higher rpm but lighter hammer. Would be an interesting Frankenstein to toss on the dyno.
Thank you so much for your vids! Especially this one! I’ve been having a hard time finding the legths of the rigid models and whhich generation each one is. That combined with the torque measurements was so helpful, thank you!
I just dove into dewalt for the first time. I grabbed Dcf923b and two powerstacks. It’s a ripper. It’s definitely noticeable compared to my m12 stubby and just as small.
Thank you guys for making these excellent videos! While I'm bought in on Team Red tools, I like watching to see how different brands are changing/competing. IF (and that's a big IF) I ever wanted to change brands again, it would be tough to decide who I go to....
I absolutely love my old subcompact! Its definetley not a powerhouse but for its size its a little monster, ive even gotten lug nuts off cars at the junk yard with it (before i got a 1/2 impact). The only problem is that the battery ridgid uses is massive, and it ends up making the tool not fit in tight spaces that it would with like a craftsman size battery
Since I already have the Ridgid mid torque impact wrench, I recently added the Ridgid 3/8 ratchet to my mechanic set. I’m really thinking about getting a subcompact impact wrench to keep in my trunk.
Thanks for such a great video. I work maintenance and I’m due for some new cordless tools. I have been looking at the Rigid line and by what I’m seeing that’s the route I’m going to go. I know several guys that swear by Milwaukee but it seems that lately their tools are becoming a let down. Yes they are still great with their warranty but for the price point I’m looking to purchase the Rigid line.
Since 5 years I’ve only bought makita. They might not bring the most beans on some applications but they are build to last. Some other brands aren’t cough cough Milwaukee.
For me the M12 stubby is the best because size matters. I have that, a M18 mid torque and a M12 fuel ratchet. Sometimes but very rarely the M18 high torque would be useful.
I feel like if tti starts upgrading rigid, it’ll make an interesting and beneficial market for them. Rigid could become their bang for the buck brand with powerful tools at a reasonable price, but a much more limited platform. Where’s Milwaukee has a top of the line 18v platform and 12v platform, as well as many more applications for there batteries. I mean my snap on dealer prefers to sell m18 over snap on 18v just because the platform is more versatile with chainsaws and other equipment that Milwaukee offers. Whereas rigid will probably end up being more straight tools.
As an absolute bottom of the barrel diy'er i have a bunch of atomic power tools from dewalt(wedding gift from my parents) and so far i haven't needed anything more than them, even though it kinda seems like their budget tools.
It's cool seeing the ratings. IMO, Milwaukee, Ridgid, Makita, Bosch and Dewalt are all "A" grades. There may be a couple others but those are the ones with most choices in tools. Next level down...I'd probably go with Ryobi/Craftsman/Kobalt/Masterforce. Ryobi wins out of those tho, IMO, because of their massive selection of tools. I'm not talking in this single test or any single test. I'm saying "quality/power/tool selection". I've watched so many tests on these tools. Each company has some tools that win each category. Crazy thing....the Ryobi crown stapler crushed the others in side by test tests. For most people, it's whatever tool you started with, you probably just buy more tools to the match the batteries you own. I happen to have Milwaukee. I chose them because of the selection of yard/outdoor tools when I started purchasing. If you own any of the above brands... you're doing just fine!
I have both a Milwaukee m18 an a 12v Milwaukee, the company I work for provides. Same with the other techs and assistants I work with. We all have had many instances when the 12v could not hack it and I had to bring out the 18v to deal with it. They are not the same, not to mention the 12v life is much shorter. That has been my experience with the two at least. I cringe whenever the foremen comes over with a new cordless we need and its a 12v because he or the suits are being cheap again. I love the size and most of the time they get the job done but always have a 18v near by cause you will need it...
Can you please test it with a higher amp 🔋. Shop tool reviews tested this with a 6amp and this little sucker is a monster it bested the Dewalt removing a 500ft fastener with not too much hassle. Curious to know if the 3.0 Octane or the higest amp Ridgid you have can crank up the pixies 👍🏻
@@mrunabout Me too. The 8 and 12exp batteries for sure will crank up the power. In my case running it with a 3.0 is perfect for my needs. I thought he was going to bust out the 3.0 like he has in the past, but negative so🤷♂️
@@TorqueTestChannel Please do, but good to know that the 3.0 gives it the same or a little bit more than the Milwaukee for the size👍🏻Thank You for the response.
35 years as a Union Tinknocker. Working for diff company's at times you get to use diff brand tools. Depending on the platform that company uses. The major players in my neck of the Woods are Hilti Milwaulkee and DeWalt. For Battery life and durability The DeWalt has been by far the ,most reliable. Hilti and Mil always seam to have Battery issues. The last 10 years I have been with the same company with the same DeWalt platform. When I 1st started in the trade you dragged an extension cord around with a Sheetrock gun attached to it, Those cheap narrow Makita's just could not keep up. Driving 1.000s of Tech screws 10 hours a day. Then the 12v DeWalt came out and changed the game. Now I can put a 6A battery in my impact and normally it will last the whole shift. Screw quality has improved as well etc etc.
In my opinion one of the best things dewalt ever did was introduce the 1.7 power stack battery. The small footprint with huge power output makes their atomic impacts an even better tool. The rigid looks like a nice option, but their is no way I could tolerate that massive footprint
Outdated results now, the new RED-TOOL slaps it, and there are more battery choices on TEAM-RED, such as FORGE pouch cells, that can make some RED-TOOLS, slap-down the others, even harder. Harder SLAPS! Or more blade RPMs
I think Ridgid has been the best quality/$ for a while, and I think that being aimed at tradesman vs mechanics gives them a much more refined feel that brands like Milwaukee. My buddy has had a set for years and I'm jealous.
Oh good point bringing this up, this is one of the few ones that would NOT accept a makita battery. One of these batteries work on a makita but not the other way around oddly.
@@TorqueTestChannel I purchased the ework, thanks for adding to this test. Wondering what 2nd battery you recommend to pick up for it since it only came with one.
Another great video, love this channel!!! can you do comparison video of m18 4th gen impact and the m18 surge (hydraulic impact). Maybe throw a couple other good ones in there.
I'm in the process of putting an M18 tri led gearcase on an M12 stubby, I'm sick of waiting for Milwaukee to update it, all the companies have moved to that setup now
So if I am not mistaken, the small DCF921 and the large DCF900 still dominate with more torque compared to their competitors. I will have to research for the mid torque.
Would like to see Worx brand tools up against the regular competition. They are quite popular in the UK but don't get much attention here in the US. From what I've seen they are quite capable. I'm curious how their advertised numbers shake out against reality.
I bought an Amazon Uaoaii 21v brushless compact 1/2in high torque and have been impressed with it. It claims 420lbs tq (550nm) of power, but I'd like to see it tested. Battle of the Amazon impacts, maybe?
please test the parkside performance impact wrench, I know you previously said it was expensive but it could be worth it. they offer a 3-year warranty which is also interesting. i really want to see an honest review of the gun as there are non out there.
A year ago I spent over 300 on a Milwaukee mid torque kit and the impact was defective out of the box. I was so turned off from the high cost that I just returned it and bought the ridgid subcompact gen 1 for under $140 and considered it good enough. It has been an awesome and reliable tool. Whats the point of spending a premium if its still chinese plastic at the end of the day.
I wanted to suggest Narex impacts but I just found out that their specs are a hot mess and they are quite expensive. Interestingly their Mid and High torque options run on 60V which I've never seen before. I'd would for sure be to see how they perform compared to the more well known brands even tho Narex is quite a popular angle grinder and corded drills brand here.
Great videos! I watch them all the time! I have a question. Would you recommend the ework impact in this video? I’m tempted by how many foot pounds in such a small footprint. Plus using Makita batteries is a plus.
Can you test the oil impulse impacts? Not as much for power as for decibel level. I ruined my ears over the years and these really help and if I need the power I have other impacts to use.
Sifting through your channel and wondering if you guys have any plans on testing out the new 1/2 inch Ryobi Compact (PSBIW25B). I wonder how it compares to these…
My R87208B just died on me after a week of car dealer mechanic. Used for tire changing then nothing, just the led flashing and draining the battery in no time. Swap the battery, same result. Have to send the tool for 1-2 month before having answer to repair or replace. Sad.
TTI please give us one more I don't care if orange is better than red Ridgid High Torque style tool but in the Mid and also the Subcompact lineup. Also please make a 12 Volt version of this subcompact with a similar battery to the M12 Stubby. At that point we'll all line up and say take our 💰
@@mike_t_007 If ridgid puts the damn belt clip in the right place, then maybe. If they make the batteries easier to remove than the m12s, then it's not a maybe, it's a sure thing.
Now if they would move the light back up there on the other new impacts I might swap my octane mid torque with a new one. But I hate the light on the base, and not real happy with them removing the overmolding either.
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Some Amazon tool redemption after the last one sucked (SeeSii high torque). The starwars Ewok has been added to our list of tools that don't suck accordingly www.amazon.com/shop/torquetestchannel
Here's hoping Ridgid makes more tools in this SubCompact line that are as good as the last two on the channel.
As always, the creator of this channel is working in product development for Astro Tools who also make impact wrenches (air), always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!
Can y'all test the power tools that Auto Parts Stores like the Diehard brand at Advance Auto Parts, the Duralast brand at Autozone, the Power Torque brand at O'Reilly's, and the Carlyle Tools at Napa just to name a few. I see them on the shelf but never know if they are any good, they seem to be a good price but no idea how well they preform. If amazon and harbor freight tools are being tested why not the tools that are at the national parts stores. Would like to see how they hold up.
Can you test air ratchets?
Harbor freight vs Jonnesway vs Chicago Pneumatic vs Ingersoll Rand?
The problem with the Amazon brands is that longevity is a total unknown and even one purchase of the tool to the next may not be the same. It's a total crap shoot.
Love your videos! Have you tried the ridgid R862312K with 4 mode with 2400 in lbs?
Can you do videos about a brand with a good warranty? Rigid claims lifetime, but they have "approved" warranty shops like every 500 miles or so making taking them in super inconvenient. So although all the other brands aren't as good, you can get them serviced a hell'uva easier than crappy Rigid.
Thanks for the sunday entertainment guys! Don’t even really use or need power tools outside of DIY, but for some reason the way you guys present stuff makes it entertaining even for me
Hey thanks!
I’m a 51 year old Grammy who just bought my first home. I’m in the market for tools and I stumbled across your video. Thx for the great info 😊
My 921 is the most used tool I own. In heavy equipment work where most of the fasteners I run into are 19mm, it absolutely dominates.
911 is wicked too. I bought the 921 and gave my 911 to a buddy who is a diesel tech and he uses the crap out of it. I actually in some ways liked it better than the 921 as it was simple with no settings. I never really use them anyway I keep it on high and use my finger
I really hope that eventually the TTC chanel grows big enough to sell their own tool creations. Like having an impact wrench that was designed and sold by TTC would be so cool.
There is an impact wrench designed by TTC, sold by Astro. The one without a handle, just a hose! There’s also a weighed socket they designed that I believe will be sold by Astro.
@@Ak3rn0 More on the way as well
Go back and watch a few videos Torque Said that the genius management at ASTRO snatched him up for their engineering department. Since then he has made some changes and performance boosts to tools. Woot!!! But what we appreciate most about TTC is their commitment to being unbiased by letting the numbers do the talking. I am happy that they always stay transparent about what Torque works on just in case there might be a bias.
An improvement for sure on Ridigd's part!
That Ewok is...something else, in a good way! If they offered a good warranty, even a one-year warranty, we would start seeing funny names on many job sites. 🐺🔧
ewok
gonna get some furry lil dwarves workin construction lol!
@@djaydeved Hi, Ho! Ho, Ho! It's off to work we go! (blasts off in a spaceship)
@@jonathansherwood5841 🤣🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅gotta love the cat wrench or wrench cat impact
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Just got one. It's actually very good 👍🏾 they have a one year replacement no questions asked warranty. They send you a new one and you send back the broken one. Was very surprised at the quality of it when I opened it. It hits very hard and no corners were cut. Amazon is a real gamble but Torque Test channel found a gem!
The one thing about that this channel shows numbers only. We dont get to see durability, and longevity. Thats why people still pay good money for tool we know will last.
I do like the design of that RDIGD. Im glad they are finally sticking to a a line of tools and change it every now and again.
This channel is single handedly responsible for my love to rigid and is the reason Rigid is my only platform. the only reason Im gonna buy Milwaukee eventually is because of the orbital polisher
I don't really understand comments like this. Milwaukee and DeWalt have led the cordless tool market since dinosaurs roamed the earth, have the best lineups, more solutions overall than any of the competition, and generally have longer lifespans.
I get price/warranty come into play, and the type of work these tools are used for, but only within the last few years have the smaller brands picked up the pace, and only with select tools. As a brand, Milwaukee and DeWalt wipe the floor with everything else except Makita.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to see competitive tools from other companies enter the marketplace, but I simply can't wrap my head around anyone being a cheerleader for them.
@@InuranusBrokoff The rigid High torque out performs everything else proven results on this channel, it’s cheaper than MKE, has a lifetime service agreement, and so far I have had my Rigid low torque and high torque for 5 years no issues.
I really just wish they made a orbital polisher for it
@InuranusBrokoff id disagree im a auto tech i was soley milwaukee until i kept going through batteries, decided to try ridgid because specs were similar, price was better and warranty on batteries. For me milwaukee got stagnate because they know they make good tools so prices went up and quality didnt necessarily follow..
I use Ridgid tools...I have 30ish Ridgid tools I also have FLEX...but I am not disappointed in my Ridgid tools...I don't use them to make a living so anything and everything I need to do in my house or in my garage or on my property they have never failed.. I've never even had to use the LSA...
And I've had the brand for over 8 years..(I give my older tools to my brother or coworkers)...
I'm glad to see them getting some love...
I have as many as you, and do use them professionally. They do hold up just fine, and do what they need to get the job done.
@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r nice... I would trust them in a professional setting..I happen to work in a facility that provides tools...but if they didn't I would use my Ridgid and be fine I think
Awesome review. I remember a lot people belly aching about the direction Ridgid has been going with their tools. There was a ton of talk saying Ridgid is going to be fazed out (Den of tools). Well look at this. Look at their quickly expanding outdoor line of tools. Look at the new and and better drill and 4 mode impact. The new and better redone subcompact drill and impact. Sure some are rehashed but they are improved in looks, ergo's, performance and in most cases features. You can't go wrong with Ridgid. They are always up there with the top handfull of brands. Thanks for the accurate and entertaining reviews.
Den of tools has such BS opinions on some things that's it's head scratching how he's become what he has.
Dude's never used tools to make his living (outside of TH-cam shilling), but is considered an authority on tools.
@@armedappalachian I personally don't know him or what he did/does for a living but we have gone back and forth on these comment posts. He sure does have a hatred for Ridgid and a couple other brands. He didn't seem to have a users view/knowledge of tools though.
@@armedappalachian yeah thats actually wrong bud, he used to do construction before his IT days hes said it over and over.
I can’t recall ever seeing a Rigid in a professional place of business.
Thank for this! I was on the fence for a compact and am already in Milwaukee and Ridgid, the price spreads was a lot, I went with the Ridgid after viewing this. Thank you sir!
In today’s world there’s no reason a compact impact wrench should be over 5” long. Plenty of companies are getting great numbers out of a small package just like this Rigid showed us. Because when you go for a compact impact it’s typically because you need it to fit in a tight space or don’t want to wield a bunch of extra weight. I really feel like the foot pounds/in should be weighted more heavily in this category or move these bigger “compact” impacts to a different category. Either way another great video TTC and good job Rigid on pushing the envelope to make things smaller but still powerful.
So we need compact
I’d say that TTI has probably decided that it’s not necessary to differentiate Ridgid and Milwaukee performance so much anymore since they speak to different audiences. Kinda a Chevy/GMC pickup relationship in some ways. Also, as you say, they are taking a different approach to the same goal (M12/M18). Plumbers and electricians are going to keep embracing Ridgid and auto and motorcycle techs like myself will stick with my Milwaukee platform. Besides, there’s more to my decision process than just outright performance like warranty, ergonomics, lighting and sound.
Ridgid is owned by Emerson they license to TTI that being said, milwaukee and ridgid, have their own research and development that are separate from each other. I can tell you that I know, for a it fact does not work that way with subsidiaries of TTI. And I can also tell you being a contractor for 23 years more electricians use Milwaukee then rigid. Milwaukee started out as a Sparkys tool and is still one of their largest bases. Rigid is for sure a plumbers tool not as much as an electricians, I don’t know where that started on TH-cam?
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1) Perception is reality.
2) TTI makes many tool for Emerson and they most certainly do establish boundaries and positioning. Do you think any corporation will allow their halo brand to be eclipsed by a partner brand?
3) Tool users and opinions are regional. In New England I saw mostly Dewalt in the hands of contractors and electricians over the decades. Electricians buying impacts for occasional use though (not drills) would opt for inexpensive Ridgid.
4) People are allowed to have an opinion that doesn't align with yours. TH-cam (and the Internet itself) didn't even exist when I started in the trades.
I've yet to even see Rigid on the jobsite. It's all Dewalt or Milwaukee with some of the corded tools being a kind of HF tool or other less known brand name.
With that said, when I finish my tradesman I'll probably get a rigid tool kit. Partially, so no one can steal/borrow my tools or batteries, but it also seems like a better deal overall.
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@@afellowinnewengland6142 you can say perception is reality whatever. I wasn’t commenting on your perception or your opinion I was telling you the reality is they have their own R&D facilities. Your perception has nothing to do with reality and the day-to-day operations at TTI, rigid Milwaukee, Ryobi, etc. I’ve done work for TTI in Jackson, I was telling you not giving you my opinion. And no electricians don’t use rigid tools for the most part. Yes, you are entitled to have your opinion but somethings are not a matter of opinion they are a matter of fact.
As an electrician for 16 years. Milwaukee really has the most tools available for my trade. Sometimes there are other brands that out perform Milwaukee in certain testing. What I find most important is that Milwaukee can still get the job down even if it takes a little longer on occasion. And to choose the brand that's best suited for your line of work and try to stick with 1 battery line so you don't have 5 different types of batteries and 5 different chargers.
Different boat but same vibes, I do a lot of hvac work, and ridgid just has that little crimping tool milwaukee doesn't.
@@PaulRudd1941 I've always been pro ridgid and even owned a kit of their 24v line. While I've become more Milwaukee because of my line of work, I still recommend ridgid to certain people based on their needs.
I am glad that Ridgid rectified the power situation with this tool. I wish they would make up their damn minds on the lights though. I love the front mounted lights like this model and the octane model. The gen 1 sub compacts and gen 2 impact tools moved the lights to the base which I hate. Hopefully they will release new impact models with the lights back on the front. Unfortunately I already have the first gen subcompact impact, which while powerful enough for most of what I do with it has the light on the base and it doesn't light up most work situations.
And that Ework, well just damn is all I have to say about that.
Please check the noise level as well for these power tools, it makes a huge difference in closed working environment. May influence the buying choice.
Your channel is why I pre ordered the 921. Still putting in work 💪
_Which model Makita was shown in this video!?!?!_ _I am looking to buy "the best" sub compact impact wrench!_
*_Thanks!_*
I think TTI uses ridgid/ AEG as a testing platform for what they will do with milwaukee. It kinda gets them real world testing but doesn't hurt milwaukee name
Tti doesn’t own rigid, or make them, just licensed to sell them. So no you’re theory is wrong.
@@skunkycatog The ridgids are just rebadged AEG which tti does own, but you are correct about the name being licensed. Rigid has no real involvement with the design of the tools. Having the lifetime warranty makes it a great platform for trial and error tools as if they are not good or poor quality they can just swap them with a newer model when warrantied.
@@skunkycatog no, your wrong. They do make them. Even this channel has tore a Ridgid and Milwaukee mid-torque apart and swapped parts. Other channels have tore Milwaukee and Ridgid apart and have shown they were made the same. They are the same The electrics were very similar. Branding on the pieces were the same on the inside. You need to do more homework man.
921 is my best buddy at work. I do have some ridgid tools and would like to try this ridgid impact on the job
That EWORK throwing down...
Very surprising. The Amazon tools are such a gamble many look identical other than name and color and use similar knockoff Makita style packs and your channel has proven that some work really well and are well worth the money and some are well, just junk...
Roll the dice!
Thanks for all the work you guys put into this.
The m12 stubby is my favorite tool by a long shot. I’m an automotive mechanic and it’s my go to for everything except extremely tight places and extremely tight bolts. It does 90% of what I need. And with the 6 amp hour it runs forever.
Also for the other mechanics out there: get the m12 under hood light! That thing is life changing.
I second this
Nice to see some improvements for the Ridgid line. Speaking of compact impacts though, have you gotten your hands on the new Skil 12v impact wrench?
Great video, thanks for the information. I've got one of the lesser-Ridgid compacts and they're great for taking off parts at the junkyard. The compactness and fairly high torque beats a wrench in many cases. I also use a DeWalt-to-Ridgit battery adapter because I'm "Team Ol' Yeller" in my other tools. It works just fine.
Suggestion: Adding a rotational torque sensor might improve your measurements. In industry, torque sensors are used to monitor motor and machine performance, they're basically just a metal rod with strain gauges that sense twisting. For your applications, a sensor good to 2000 Nm (1475 ft-lb) would work well. A simple bridge circuit would allow you to capture the peak stall torque on a meter or oscilloscope, with a static bolt-head fixture. No shade on your current methods, they are very good and entertaining as well. Cheers!
I love the hand slap and give your brother the unplugged controller analogy, it hits the nail on the head because Let me tell you a trend I’ve noticed and seen play out time and time again..Ridgid releases a good tool or feature that is different than the other options on the market, so it sells well and is just a winner all around it will disappear from the Ridgid line and around two years later will be in a red uniform reporting for duty…. You don’t see the Ridgid 12 V tools anymore because m12 tool that part of the pie, I mean was it for the better ? Imo yes but just an observation
For the ROI, I've wisely invested in team Orange for 18v and also team Red for their 12v.
I have done the exact same thing. Im quite happy with my tools thus far. M12 just has so many oddball tools that if you need one its hard to ignore, and Ridgid 18V just works.
Totally agree, I’m now going for m12 per size. HD cutting deals like m12 hammer drill& impact, 2amp,4amp, charger and bag $219 plus a free 5amp! Online only.
My last Ridgid was octane 71/4” brushless nib mark down last fall from $190 to $85! Same 4 amp battery’s, 6 so far, oldest 4yrs.
6 ridgid main tools so far no failures. And forever warranty
Great presentation as always! I own this Ridgid subcompact 1/2" impact wrench. Ridgid has excellent tools and can run with the big dogs 👍
At a big price cut. I didn't expect mine to be as good, but to be close to as good with a huge price reduction.
Love the M12 lineup, i use the M18 mid torque for bigger fasteners. But can't wait for the 2nd gen M12 stubby!
I’m not sure you test battery longevity or charge sustenance; however these are of utmost importance when rating value. I have had a Rigid tool and experienced poor battery endurance. Your testing is awesome and appreciated. THX!
I have an oddity of tool. I took my old Milwaukee 2753 and using the existing rotating assembly, swapped in the anvil of a 2755b. 2753 has higher rpm but lighter hammer. Would be an interesting Frankenstein to toss on the dyno.
Thank you so much for your vids! Especially this one! I’ve been having a hard time finding the legths of the rigid models and whhich generation each one is. That combined with the torque measurements was so helpful, thank you!
I just dove into dewalt for the first time. I grabbed Dcf923b and two powerstacks. It’s a ripper. It’s definitely noticeable compared to my m12 stubby and just as small.
Thanks to reviews on this channel I got a Rigid 1/2in High-Torque.
Thank you guys for making these excellent videos!
While I'm bought in on Team Red tools, I like watching to see how different brands are changing/competing. IF (and that's a big IF) I ever wanted to change brands again, it would be tough to decide who I go to....
Was waiting for the review! Got one recently
I absolutely love my old subcompact! Its definetley not a powerhouse but for its size its a little monster, ive even gotten lug nuts off cars at the junk yard with it (before i got a 1/2 impact). The only problem is that the battery ridgid uses is massive, and it ends up making the tool not fit in tight spaces that it would with like a craftsman size battery
Excellent content and narration sir. Thank you. 🇬🇧
Since I already have the Ridgid mid torque impact wrench, I recently added the Ridgid 3/8 ratchet to my mechanic set.
I’m really thinking about getting a subcompact impact wrench to keep in my trunk.
Just a side note if you want to give a size comparison use a dollar bill. Great condition as always
Thanks for such a great video. I work maintenance and I’m due for some new cordless tools. I have been looking at the Rigid line and by what I’m seeing that’s the route I’m going to go. I know several guys that swear by Milwaukee but it seems that lately their tools are becoming a let down. Yes they are still great with their warranty but for the price point I’m looking to purchase the Rigid line.
Since 5 years I’ve only bought makita. They might not bring the most beans on some applications but they are build to last. Some other brands aren’t cough cough Milwaukee.
I have the ridgid 3/ 8th sub .the half in inpact ( the original one not the shorter one ) and the paddle angle grinder .
The dewalt 12v xtreme impacts are also great for the battery power to hit ratio
For me the M12 stubby is the best because size matters. I have that, a M18 mid torque and a M12 fuel ratchet. Sometimes but very rarely the M18 high torque would be useful.
Awsome video again!
Would love to see you comparing cordless drills, just like the cut off tools.... ;)
I feel like if tti starts upgrading rigid, it’ll make an interesting and beneficial market for them. Rigid could become their bang for the buck brand with powerful tools at a reasonable price, but a much more limited platform. Where’s Milwaukee has a top of the line 18v platform and 12v platform, as well as many more applications for there batteries. I mean my snap on dealer prefers to sell m18 over snap on 18v just because the platform is more versatile with chainsaws and other equipment that Milwaukee offers. Whereas rigid will probably end up being more straight tools.
As an absolute bottom of the barrel diy'er i have a bunch of atomic power tools from dewalt(wedding gift from my parents) and so far i haven't needed anything more than them, even though it kinda seems like their budget tools.
I would like to see a test on air powered cutoff tools especially the Snap-on
Damn missed opportunity to throw the new Ryobi compact HP in there too, rated for 275ftlbs slightly longer than the rigid I believe
Thank you for providing an excellent service for us all👍
I use the dewalt Atomic on Vehicles every day All day long it does super well
It's cool seeing the ratings. IMO, Milwaukee, Ridgid, Makita, Bosch and Dewalt are all "A" grades. There may be a couple others but those are the ones with most choices in tools. Next level down...I'd probably go with Ryobi/Craftsman/Kobalt/Masterforce. Ryobi wins out of those tho, IMO, because of their massive selection of tools. I'm not talking in this single test or any single test. I'm saying "quality/power/tool selection". I've watched so many tests on these tools. Each company has some tools that win each category. Crazy thing....the Ryobi crown stapler crushed the others in side by test tests. For most people, it's whatever tool you started with, you probably just buy more tools to the match the batteries you own. I happen to have Milwaukee. I chose them because of the selection of yard/outdoor tools when I started purchasing. If you own any of the above brands... you're doing just fine!
With the price I can get ridgid stuff from direct tools outlet combined with the warranty I've been swapping over from red to orange. No ragrets.
The orange-headed stepchild bringing some real value! 👍
I have both a Milwaukee m18 an a 12v Milwaukee, the company I work for provides. Same with the other techs and assistants I work with. We all have had many instances when the 12v could not hack it and I had to bring out the 18v to deal with it. They are not the same, not to mention the 12v life is much shorter. That has been my experience with the two at least. I cringe whenever the foremen comes over with a new cordless we need and its a 12v because he or the suits are being cheap again. I love the size and most of the time they get the job done but always have a 18v near by cause you will need it...
Can you please test it with a higher amp 🔋. Shop tool reviews tested this with a 6amp and this little sucker is a monster it bested the Dewalt removing a 500ft fastener with not too much hassle. Curious to know if the 3.0 Octane or the higest amp Ridgid you have can crank up the pixies 👍🏻
I'm also interested in this as I only have Octane batteries packs with the 21700 cells.
@@mrunabout Me too. The 8 and 12exp batteries for sure will crank up the power. In my case running it with a 3.0 is perfect for my needs. I thought he was going to bust out the 3.0 like he has in the past, but negative so🤷♂️
We did test the octane, and it made the same power. Havent tried a 6+ yet though
@@TorqueTestChannel Please do, but good to know that the 3.0 gives it the same or a little bit more than the Milwaukee for the size👍🏻Thank You for the response.
Good job! That Amazon subcompact surprised me as well.
35 years as a Union Tinknocker. Working for diff company's at times you get to use diff brand tools. Depending on the platform that company uses. The major players in my neck of the Woods are Hilti Milwaulkee and DeWalt. For Battery life and durability The DeWalt has been by far the ,most reliable. Hilti and Mil always seam to have Battery issues. The last 10 years I have been with the same company with the same DeWalt platform. When I 1st started in the trade you dragged an extension cord around with a Sheetrock gun attached to it, Those cheap narrow Makita's just could not keep up. Driving 1.000s of Tech screws 10 hours a day. Then the 12v DeWalt came out and changed the game. Now I can put a 6A battery in my impact and normally it will last the whole shift. Screw quality has improved as well etc etc.
Nice , would love to see more from eworks on your channel.... Ty
In my opinion one of the best things dewalt ever did was introduce the 1.7 power stack battery. The small footprint with huge power output makes their atomic impacts an even better tool. The rigid looks like a nice option, but their is no way I could tolerate that massive footprint
I got the older ridgid model & I luv it
Would have loved to see the old and new rigid together on the graph, maybe next time?
Always love the videos. I have a Matco Ratchet that I’d love to send in for another electric ratchet video. Let me know
Outdated results now, the new RED-TOOL slaps it, and there are more battery choices on TEAM-RED, such as FORGE pouch cells, that can make some RED-TOOLS, slap-down the others, even harder. Harder SLAPS! Or more blade RPMs
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I think Ridgid has been the best quality/$ for a while, and I think that being aimed at tradesman vs mechanics gives them a much more refined feel that brands like Milwaukee. My buddy has had a set for years and I'm jealous.
Love to see my trusty M12 stubby still living as a solid solid option.
The ework seems to be compatible with makita batteries, wonder how much difference there would be if you put a 6ah battery on it.
Oh good point bringing this up, this is one of the few ones that would NOT accept a makita battery. One of these batteries work on a makita but not the other way around oddly.
@@TorqueTestChannel I purchased the ework, thanks for adding to this test. Wondering what 2nd battery you recommend to pick up for it since it only came with one.
Another great video, love this channel!!! can you do comparison video of m18 4th gen impact and the m18 surge (hydraulic impact). Maybe throw a couple other good ones in there.
I'm in the process of putting an M18 tri led gearcase on an M12 stubby, I'm sick of waiting for Milwaukee to update it, all the companies have moved to that setup now
I was also thinking of doing this. Did you have to modify the gear housing much? You should upload a video of the modification it be pretty cool.
I'd sort of like to see these compact cordless impacts compared to the Astro Nano. I'm pretty sure it won't be "fair" but I'm still curious.
Orange IS (becoming) the new Red, indeed. Thanks for a great essay.
So if I am not mistaken, the small DCF921 and the large DCF900 still dominate with more torque compared to their competitors. I will have to research for the mid torque.
Mid torque as well. Dcf891
Thanks for the metric 👍🏻
Great video
You should show the new ryobi compact impact, just a baby version of the p262 but supposedly 275 ftlbs
I was just thinking this too. Would love to see it
I wanna see it too. I love me some orange and lime green tools
Ridgid is the madcats controller of the tti tools brands
Would like to see Worx brand tools up against the regular competition. They are quite popular in the UK but don't get much attention here in the US. From what I've seen they are quite capable. I'm curious how their advertised numbers shake out against reality.
Like to see Canadian Tire Maximum up against the heavy hitters. The xvolt series offers 40v now.:)
I bought an Amazon Uaoaii 21v brushless compact 1/2in high torque and have been impressed with it. It claims 420lbs tq (550nm) of power, but I'd like to see it tested. Battle of the Amazon impacts, maybe?
love the content helped me pick out my impact have you guys tested metabo yet?
The real Metabo? They have tested "Metabo HPT" (aka Hitachi)
Good job again TTC. GOD BLESS and thanks for the great content
have you guys ever tested the Matco infinium 1/2 impact, thinking about getting it but havnt made up my mind yet. Love the content keep it up!
please test the parkside performance impact wrench, I know you previously said it was expensive but it could be worth it. they offer a 3-year warranty which is also interesting. i really want to see an honest review of the gun as there are non out there.
A year ago I spent over 300 on a Milwaukee mid torque kit and the impact was defective out of the box. I was so turned off from the high cost that I just returned it and bought the ridgid subcompact gen 1 for under $140 and considered it good enough. It has been an awesome and reliable tool. Whats the point of spending a premium if its still chinese plastic at the end of the day.
I wanted to suggest Narex impacts but I just found out that their specs are a hot mess and they are quite expensive.
Interestingly their Mid and High torque options run on 60V which I've never seen before.
I'd would for sure be to see how they perform compared to the more well known brands even tho Narex is quite a popular angle grinder and corded drills brand here.
Would love to be a fly on the wall in the TTI board meetings. "How should we totally mess with our customers this month?"
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I know you're out in California, so likely haven't ever stepped foot in a Menards, but I'd love to see you test some Masterforce impacts.
Great videos! I watch them all the time! I have a question. Would you recommend the ework impact in this video? I’m tempted by how many foot pounds in such a small footprint. Plus using Makita batteries is a plus.
Yes. It's oddly good
Can you test the oil impulse impacts? Not as much for power as for decibel level. I ruined my ears over the years and these really help and if I need the power I have other impacts to use.
Sifting through your channel and wondering if you guys have any plans on testing out the new 1/2 inch Ryobi Compact (PSBIW25B). I wonder how it compares to these…
Beast of a impact gun
Your torque charts that animate the time axis to show real-time are great! What software does that?
I prefer the dewalts because of durability and getting water and transmission fluid in it didnt stop it from running correctly
Do you guys have any plans to test the black makita subcompact tools?
My R87208B just died on me after a week of car dealer mechanic. Used for tire changing then nothing, just the led flashing and draining the battery in no time. Swap the battery, same result. Have to send the tool for 1-2 month before having answer to repair or replace. Sad.
I would love to see what a fully unchained rigid would look like
TTI please give us one more I don't care if orange is better than red Ridgid High Torque style tool but in the Mid and also the Subcompact lineup. Also please make a 12 Volt version of this subcompact with a similar battery to the M12 Stubby. At that point we'll all line up and say take our 💰
@@mike_t_007 If ridgid puts the damn belt clip in the right place, then maybe.
If they make the batteries easier to remove than the m12s, then it's not a maybe, it's a sure thing.
@@maxpulido the clip on the red M12 is... something else..
as a makita guy, i prefer the chrome towhooks.
Best part about the new Ridgid is they put the LEDs back in line with the shaft instead of at the base.
Coaxial lighting is better than oblique for sure. Having both would be even better still, but I'm not sure if anyone is doing that yet
Now if they would move the light back up there on the other new impacts I might swap my octane mid torque with a new one. But I hate the light on the base, and not real happy with them removing the overmolding either.
@@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r yeah I noticed there's no more rubber molding on the batteries, the rubber helped with accidental drops
Will you be doing any tests for cordless outdoor tools? Augers, chainsaws, weed eaters, etc?