I really don't understand the need to constantly compare each singer and to say who is better, and to trash Tarja's voice and say Floor is perfection. In the end Tarja was also founder of the band, whether people like it or not, we probably wouldnt even know the band if it wasnt for the fact that all the members including HER were a great team. You just need to let it go! I enjoy Tarja and Floor, they have different styles, they are different people! They're even friends! So why do you still fight about who is best?
@@nafisahmohamed4772 which is really weird to me since Floor can do some wonderful singing but to me has about as much IT factor as the shoe I gave to my dog to chew on. And Tarja always had the IT factor in spades. Especially these days, she got some tattoos, expanded her singing style to go beyond the operatic which makes her range even more insane and well, look at her.
I think you (we) will have to learn to live with that 'competition' one way or the other... I mean when you watch/listen to Nighwish vids here with Floor as leading lady it's full with remarks of Tarja afficionado's who are claiming that Tarla's voice is much better if not the best. I must say listening to this particular recording makes me doubt if she is indeed a better singer than Floor.... Don't get me wrong i think it's time indeed to quit comparing, Tarja made a carreer on her own as a solo artist and she's out of the band for already a longer period of time than she was in it...!
People love criticising other people...they like inventing mistakes and instead of enjoying every moment,every day,every song from these two different but exceptional voices and be happy with the differences on these voices they simply prefer searching for negative things to say..If those who do this spent half of that time searching things to improve theirselves we would live in a perfect world..
Three yeas too late but to me, the one who makes Nightwish, Nightwish is Tuomas, not Tarja, not Anette and not Floor. He is the one who does it all for the band.
She's the star and head what nightwish make but she goes her own way and make it very good her job!☘️good luck tarja for all times and in all situations!!!😉🤘🤘🤘🤗🦇⚘️
One thing the whole Nightwish controversy proved is that a pure opera trained voice don't gel 100% with distortion. Floor's harsher delivery that is heard in almost all of her songs brings so much more to the table to make it special.
You Floor-Nightwish fans are cringe and pathetic af. Once is still their best selling album of all time; 17 years after Tarja's been gone. Lmao go listen to your precious princess belt let it go some more.
@@Ghorir She was a Founding Member of Nightwish. She created the melodic lines to the songs, and is privy to Songwriter royalties alongside Tuomas, Jukka, Emppu and Marko. She gets to sing them.
For me the opposite, i loved Nightwish because of Marco's and Tarja's voices complimenting each other while being opposite. Now there's only Floor who can do both but actually can't. Especially live because 1) she needs to breath and 2) she can't hit the soprano notes of Tarja. The nightwish we have right now is incomplete. With Marco it was bearable but now..... difficult
Que onda con los malos comentarios wn, tarja tiene una voz fenomenal y es una gran artista, su época dorada fue con nightwish fueron bomba y me parece gratificante que aún cante estas canciones, sin duda es una diosa del metal, dejen de tirar mierda.
This performance is actually pretty terrible. The verses make my ears bleeding. The chorus goes better tho. She has done this song better but still can't beat Floor's performance in any song. No one can at the moment.
That is your opinion, of course. I personally think Tarja did pretty well during this festival. She has had better days, of course. It all comes down to taste and personal preference. I love Tarja's operatic singing and dark chest voice, others will not like it and that is okay. I LOVE Floor in Nightwish and to their newer music style she is an improvement for such songs as Amaranth, in my humble opinion. But to my own personal taste, I think Tarja has much more power during Slaying the Dreamer--others will think different. Both Tarja and Floor are wonderful singers with different styles and both are friends in real life.
My God....Tarja just keeps getting HOTTER every single year. IS she wearing that outfit, or is that outfit wearing HER?!?!?!? I love how the backup band is just LOVING jamming out to some classic Nightwish tunes. Definitely a muddy live mix, but what do you expect from an outdoor festival? I will say that as hot and gorgeous as Tarja is, she is REALLY AWKWARD and GOOFY on stage. It actually takes just a smidge away from the overall effect of her vocal prowess.
I love both Tarja and Floor as they're both amazingly talented and gifted, yet so different at the same time. If I had to choose, I'ma taking Both!! 🔥🥰😍😎
I'm Glad It wasn't Night Wish That posted this, From all the comments.. LMFAO! Show some respect to all Musicians/Artists for who they are! Look in the Mirror and Ask Your Self "Can I Do Better" ... Mirror Mirror 🪞 Who's the Farest Of Them All" Lol, God blessed them with "The Voice" Blessing to all!
Just one more time tarja and tuomas let the life reunited you one more time to rewrite the history of symphonic rock as one of the most anticipated reunions in history
Shit Shit Shit it's close to 20th anniversary when Tarja Leaves the Nightwish. I was on the last show with her, jesus christ time is really bad ;) i was 28 in 2006 and now im 45 ;) Anyway Good bless Tarja and help her sings how long she can sing on her potential range.
I see many comments complaining abot Ever Dream, but bear in mind it's just some fixation Tarja has with her chest voice. For some reason she chooses to not use her head voice, and that silly fixation began around 2004 with songs like Over the Hills and Far Away, when she started exploring that part of her range. I really hope she will see it and will choose better when to use her chest and her head voice.
her chest voice sounds so heavy and off-key, and when she use it on old songs is out of place!! I hate the fast shifts she does between head and chest voice, they're too abrupt and ugly!!
Not off key but she lower her larynx too much to create a darker sound wich is very usual for lyrical singing so it works for her head voice very nicely but for chest it sounds way too dark and dry, even maleish sometimes so it doesn't connect very well with the rest of her voice making it sound kinda off, hope she realizes that soon, it is interesting for some songs though, but not all the time like she's been doing. Her classic concerts seems to only get better though and it shows that it's just a stylistc choice.
I think she should go to a rock academy and learn how to sing more belting. I'm sure that it would help her a lot. She is trying to change the way of her singing style, but this takes some time and effort, olso she'll need a good vocal coache.
Ella puedde cantar como quiera, hace tiempo que Tarja ha estado utilizando mas otro tipos de voces y dejando un poco de lado la voz operistica, no canta feo es solo que esta cambiando su estilo, gente el metal es mas alla de una voz lirica. Y si la quieren oir en su antiguo estilo veanla en el devd de El fin de una era
No need they have Floor now Tarja is a great singer and was a huge reason Nightwish made it on the map, but she is a one trick pony, they have moved on and evolved and can cover more range with Floor
@@threalismaradona9899 Yep, but they kicked out the one member of the band who among Tuomas brought the band to the top. Also for me Nightwish was my first impression to this kind of music as a teen when Tarja was still on the band, that is another reason why it is so important for me. But I understand Floor adapts to more different styles and I think she is awesome with the band. It is a different time, and perhaps a better and more evolved Nightwish. But the old Nightwish songs, they somehow belong to Tarja.
Если не слышать ранее этого оригинала Тарьи, то может сотни за хорошо и даже отлично. А так, увы, тянет только на удовлетворительно... Очень как-то душа моя просто кровью обливается...метаморфозами в превращение...
Honestly don't like this version of Ever Dream. She sang with chest voice and there is no emotions. She used to did that song very lyricaly and with so mich feelings. Since it is one of most emotional songs ever writen I am a bit dissappointed with new preformances of this song. Slaying the dreamer is great though. 🤗
I totally agree. Ever dream is the song that became too emotional for me to listen. But I really dislike the way she sings it nowadays. She is using this style for every song and it just doesn't fit here (or hardly ever, in my opinion). White Christmas in Raskasta Joulua is another example. Also nothing against medleys really, but I'd much prefer any of the songs in their entirety, especially Tutankhamen since it hasn't been performed live with Nw. Where are you from, btw? :)
Tarja je toliko precenjena,da je to strasno. Nikada nisam mogao dugo da je slusam,posto mi brzo dosadi njen glas i intonacija ,koji su kao ravna linija.... Ne treba ni pominjati da su joj pesme posle Najtvisa ,uglavnom sranje.
She became fond of her chest voice too much for many songs. It's obvious how much her chest voice has evolved, but she should keep her head voice for the Nightwish songs, and for some her own own songs as well.
I dont get why tuomas is so bothered by her still singing his songs. they may be his but tarja was the one who gave them life. she carried nightwish on her back, its because of her that the band became successful in the first place so at least he could do is let her continue singing them
If they had never broken the Cardinal rule, band members don't get involved with each other maybe she would still be in NW? It's hardly ever worked in any band!
And there are people who have the nerve to say that Floor sings better than Tarja. Whoever says that doesn't understand anything about singing. End of story.
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I really don't understand the need to constantly compare each singer and to say who is better, and to trash Tarja's voice and say Floor is perfection. In the end Tarja was also founder of the band, whether people like it or not, we probably wouldnt even know the band if it wasnt for the fact that all the members including HER were a great team. You just need to let it go! I enjoy Tarja and Floor, they have different styles, they are different people! They're even friends! So why do you still fight about who is best?
I don't understand either. But it seems like Floor aficionados are more inclined to thrash Tarja then the fans of Annette, Sharon and Simone.
@@nafisahmohamed4772 which is really weird to me since Floor can do some wonderful singing but to me has about as much IT factor as the shoe I gave to my dog to chew on.
And Tarja always had the IT factor in spades.
Especially these days, she got some tattoos, expanded her singing style to go beyond the operatic which makes her range even more insane and well, look at her.
I think you (we) will have to learn to live with that 'competition' one way or the other... I mean when you watch/listen to Nighwish vids here with Floor as leading lady it's full with remarks of Tarja afficionado's who are claiming that Tarla's voice is much better if not the best. I must say listening to this particular recording makes me doubt if she is indeed a better singer than Floor.... Don't get me wrong i think it's time indeed to quit comparing, Tarja made a carreer on her own as a solo artist and she's out of the band for already a longer period of time than she was in it...!
People love criticising other people...they like inventing mistakes and instead of enjoying every moment,every day,every song from these two different but exceptional voices and be happy with the differences on these voices they simply prefer searching for negative things to say..If those who do this spent half of that time searching things to improve theirselves we would live in a perfect world..
Three yeas too late but to me, the one who makes Nightwish, Nightwish is Tuomas, not Tarja, not Anette and not Floor. He is the one who does it all for the band.
She's the star and head what nightwish make but she goes her own way and make it very good her job!☘️good luck tarja for all times and in all situations!!!😉🤘🤘🤘🤗🦇⚘️
Imagine Marko joined Tarja and started doing Nightwish tributes... lol there would be Choas among the world.
They're on okay terms now so never say never...
Guess what
@@leodolast I know it happened lol
Can we appreciate Tarja's outfit here? So badass 🖤
I love this woman! she is beautiful.. and has a beautiful voice ♥️
ja też
One thing the whole Nightwish controversy proved is that a pure opera trained voice don't gel 100% with distortion. Floor's harsher delivery that is heard in almost all of her songs brings so much more to the table to make it special.
You Floor-Nightwish fans are cringe and pathetic af. Once is still their best selling album of all time; 17 years after Tarja's been gone. Lmao go listen to your precious princess belt let it go some more.
@@kimberlyh.1090 Will follow your command at once, thanks for the tip🌞🌞
@@kimberlyh.1090 But on the other hand she still needs to revert to the old nightwish songs...
@@Ghorir She was a Founding Member of Nightwish. She created the melodic lines to the songs, and is privy to Songwriter royalties alongside Tuomas, Jukka, Emppu and Marko. She gets to sing them.
For me the opposite, i loved Nightwish because of Marco's and Tarja's voices complimenting each other while being opposite. Now there's only Floor who can do both but actually can't. Especially live because 1) she needs to breath and 2) she can't hit the soprano notes of Tarja. The nightwish we have right now is incomplete. With Marco it was bearable but now..... difficult
Que onda con los malos comentarios wn, tarja tiene una voz fenomenal y es una gran artista, su época dorada fue con nightwish fueron bomba y me parece gratificante que aún cante estas canciones, sin duda es una diosa del metal, dejen de tirar mierda.
Very Good 👏👏👏
Tarja looks amazing in that oufit and boy to hear her sing makes all troubles go away. Yeah
Y si Tarja viviera por los comentarios negativos... Gracias al cielo no es a si....
Viva Tarja su música, su arte elegancia...
She is amazing. I love Tarja.
This performance is actually pretty terrible. The verses make my ears bleeding. The chorus goes better tho. She has done this song better but still can't beat Floor's performance in any song. No one can at the moment.
Mikko Laine Hahahahahaha 😂
That is your opinion, of course. I personally think Tarja did pretty well during this festival. She has had better days, of course. It all comes down to taste and personal preference. I love Tarja's operatic singing and dark chest voice, others will not like it and that is okay. I LOVE Floor in Nightwish and to their newer music style she is an improvement for such songs as Amaranth, in my humble opinion. But to my own personal taste, I think Tarja has much more power during Slaying the Dreamer--others will think different. Both Tarja and Floor are wonderful singers with different styles and both are friends in real life.
Without Marco this version sounds like shit.
Not at all Floor is a goddess and does much better !!!
Shes a Nightwish!Shes the angel who we'll never be able to take enough to heal ourselves!!
My God....Tarja just keeps getting HOTTER every single year. IS she wearing that outfit, or is that outfit wearing HER?!?!?!? I love how the backup band is just LOVING jamming out to some classic Nightwish tunes. Definitely a muddy live mix, but what do you expect from an outdoor festival? I will say that as hot and gorgeous as Tarja is, she is REALLY AWKWARD and GOOFY on stage. It actually takes just a smidge away from the overall effect of her vocal prowess.
She is soo stunning!
I'm fancying the guitar player 😊 whoaaa
The most beautiful lady in the rock and the best female voice. Tarja you're incomparable.
Yet there seem to be many comparisons in the comments on TH-cam
Nothing compared to Floor though..
@@leilaodelbrink77 Floor is no match for Tarja in vocals, that's obvious.
@@Betonolom in your dreams ...
@@Betonolom You got those in wrong order...
Tarja is #1!
I love both Tarja and Floor as they're both amazingly talented and gifted, yet so different at the same time. If I had to choose, I'ma taking Both!! 🔥🥰😍😎
I'm Glad It wasn't Night Wish That posted this, From all the comments.. LMFAO! Show some respect to all Musicians/Artists for who they are!
Look in the Mirror and Ask Your Self "Can I Do Better" ... Mirror Mirror 🪞 Who's the Farest Of Them All"
Lol, God blessed them with "The Voice" Blessing to all!
Just one more time tarja and tuomas let the life reunited you one more time to rewrite the history of symphonic rock as one of the most anticipated reunions in history
Aparte de gustarme está banda que es fantástica.......que hermosa es esta señora y con ese vestuario se ve muy buena 😍😘🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🥁
I would absolutely love it if tarja and danny filth collaborated that be magic x
That would be really cool
Lovely lady, with the voice
of an Angel. Hail Tarja! 🤘❤️
Tarja hangja még mindig jó,de ez az előadás nagyon szar volt.
Shit Shit Shit it's close to 20th anniversary when Tarja Leaves the Nightwish. I was on the last show with her, jesus christ time is really bad ;) i was 28 in 2006 and now im 45 ;) Anyway Good bless Tarja and help her sings how long she can sing on her potential range.
I see many comments complaining abot Ever Dream, but bear in mind it's just some fixation Tarja has with her chest voice. For some reason she chooses to not use her head voice, and that silly fixation began around 2004 with songs like Over the Hills and Far Away, when she started exploring that part of her range. I really hope she will see it and will choose better when to use her chest and her head voice.
her chest voice sounds so heavy and off-key, and when she use it on old songs is out of place!! I hate the fast shifts she does between head and chest voice, they're too abrupt and ugly!!
@Super tupungatito, I agree. She has learnt to control it better, but it's still a no-go for the old songs.
Not off key but she lower her larynx too much to create a darker sound wich is very usual for lyrical singing so it works for her head voice very nicely but for chest it sounds way too dark and dry, even maleish sometimes so it doesn't connect very well with the rest of her voice making it sound kinda off, hope she realizes that soon, it is interesting for some songs though, but not all the time like she's been doing. Her classic concerts seems to only get better though and it shows that it's just a stylistc choice.
I think she should go to a rock academy and learn how to sing more belting. I'm sure that it would help her a lot.
She is trying to change the way of her singing style, but this takes some time and effort, olso she'll need a good vocal coache.
This video made me appreciate Nightwish and especially Floor even more. This was not even close.
Послушайте живьём Флор такое себе только орёт и кричит
@@Nightwishfansmetal tyyppi tulee ja heittää tänne jotain kyrillisiä kirjaimia? Ei taitu meikäläiseltä.
Everyone always tells me that Finns are super serious and dour, and yet she’s being all derpy and silly onstage. 😍
The only one !!!!! 💘💘🧡🧡💛💛💚💚💙💙💜💜💖💖
Legend No.1 👍
I love you Tarja turunen 😍💖💓❤️💗💞💕❣️
La mulții anii
LOVE NIGHTWISH AND TARJA!
Tarja queen
operetic/head banging. Wow! Tarja your amazing
i'm happy she cant help to sing with her opera voice
Ella puedde cantar como quiera, hace tiempo que Tarja ha estado utilizando mas otro tipos de voces y dejando un poco de lado la voz operistica, no canta feo es solo que esta cambiando su estilo, gente el metal es mas alla de una voz lirica. Y si la quieren oir en su antiguo estilo veanla en el devd de El fin de una era
Dollete Oficial2 👏👏👏
Versatilidad, no está mal cambiar, y ella tiene con que. Muy buena performance.
Dollete: No lo pudiste decir mejor. Q No la escuchen y punto, pero bueno, hay personas q necesitan si o si compartir sus "críticas" dañinas.
ILOVE YOU TARJA ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Tarja should still be with Nightwish.. I think what happened is just wrong to this day and I think I cant just let it be.
No need they have Floor now Tarja is a great singer and was a huge reason Nightwish made it on the map, but she is a one trick pony, they have moved on and evolved and can cover more range with Floor
@@threalismaradona9899 Yep, but they kicked out the one member of the band who among Tuomas brought the band to the top. Also for me Nightwish was my first impression to this kind of music as a teen when Tarja was still on the band, that is another reason why it is so important for me. But I understand Floor adapts to more different styles and I think she is awesome with the band. It is a different time, and perhaps a better and more evolved Nightwish. But the old Nightwish songs, they somehow belong to Tarja.
I still think Tarja is on a different planet compared to Floor. Tarja is a soprano.
So perfect tarja😍
Hastasıyız dede....🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
I THINK IT BECAME 1 BEST ROCK MUSIC IN THE WORLD
I love you tarja ❤️
She's Gorgeous!
Класс! Обажаю её,очень клёвая вокалистка и симпотичная девушка!🤘🤘🤘🤘👍👍👍
Классная фигурка! Тарья - Супер!
Cómo canta esta mujer dios mío....
This nation finland they have it in their blood , the ķingdom of freedom
Same Diskussion like accept Original singer Udo and Mark….both are superb!
para mi la reina del metal sinfonico y su voz no tiene comparación
I get the feeling that there was a mishap with sound in monitors in the beginning. Am I right?
¡¡¡Bellessón, bellessón!!! 😍
Forever Tarja!!!
Tis is sooooo good! 🥰😉😉🥰🥰🥰🥰
Tarja's la mejor opera metal
Amazing!!!
Обожаю Тарью
Молодчитна !
Голосом да песнями можешь душу из под рубахи достать .
La reina del metal...
She still kick ass! ❤
All three are easy on the eyes!
Tarja is my favorite, but...did she have laryngitis or something here? Goodness..
Blackest hair then the colour itself. Lovely woman
She needs her Director...yes you Know. She could be a True Siren but without real Music and the best composition. The time say "Tuomas Holopainen" :)
She doesn't need Tuomas at all :)
@@tarjaturunenhasmyheart3652 yes
What a wonderful woman and singer -and what outfit!!
Ok, so after 00:00-00:05 I can just go to bed and sleep soundly, my problems are all gone because Max is in da houseeeeeeeeee!
You watch and write shits in every Tarjas video. You are annoying a fan who LOVE TO HATE!! *begins tarja song...
Tarja forever!!!!!!!!
Tarja!!!! Amazing voice!!!
Тарья Ти ПЕРВОЕ чудо света
Käviks Kuusaalla koulunsa?
Если не слышать ранее этого оригинала Тарьи, то может сотни за хорошо и даже отлично. А так, увы, тянет только на удовлетворительно...
Очень как-то душа моя просто кровью обливается...метаморфозами в превращение...
PS.
Здесь под оригинал* понимать как официальный Первый.
Can anybody tell me the songs she sang? I didn't recognize them! Sounds kinda bad the band
Ever Dream and Slaying The Dreamer
💘
what camera are you using.?
chris d iphone7
Buenas erradas metio el tecladista ... la cara de tarja en esos momentos ..una genia jajaja
Simplemente un Ángel 😍😍😍😍
Amazing Tarja & orchestra
Hyvä Tarja!!
meteu a Bethania nos tempos todos
I love Tarja but in this version of Ever dream she sounds like Yoko Ono :v
Super tupungatito wow that is harsh
Boží 😂
Ay Tarja still...you need to play NIGHTWISH! Wow! Jajaja...
Why not? She was a founding member.
@@PrisPrisca15 but not the composer
@@KALMAGEDDON so? She is still a founding member.
@@PrisPrisca15 what the heck has to do with that? She MUST pay to sing those songs so you can be a founder member and has no rights on it
@@KALMAGEDDON it seems like she pays and does whatever she wants. Also three years have passed from my comment. Get a life and leave me alone. Bye.
Зачем она ушла
А Туомас Холопайнен разрешил его песни исполнять? авторские права им накинут.
не то , не то, не то , хочется плакать(((
2:37 eu esperando Marco 🤡
where s her voice :( .
Krásné
Why choose such songs if she gonna sing them wrong?
Lex Luthor on the cello
🤟😎🤙
🇨🇷 presente 🇨🇷para ti 💐🌹💐
Honestly don't like this version of Ever Dream. She sang with chest voice and there is no emotions. She used to did that song very lyricaly and with so mich feelings. Since it is one of most emotional songs ever writen I am a bit dissappointed with new preformances of this song. Slaying the dreamer is great though. 🤗
I totally agree. Ever dream is the song that became too emotional for me to listen. But I really dislike the way she sings it nowadays. She is using this style for every song and it just doesn't fit here (or hardly ever, in my opinion). White Christmas in Raskasta Joulua is another example. Also nothing against medleys really, but I'd much prefer any of the songs in their entirety, especially Tutankhamen since it hasn't been performed live with Nw. Where are you from, btw? :)
Marijana Hrvatska- Poreč. Ti? 😄
Varaždin :)
Tarja je toliko precenjena,da je to strasno.
Nikada nisam mogao dugo da je slusam,posto mi brzo dosadi njen glas i intonacija ,koji su kao ravna linija....
Ne treba ni pominjati da su joj pesme posle Najtvisa ,uglavnom sranje.
She became fond of her chest voice too much for many songs. It's obvious how much her chest voice has evolved, but she should keep her head voice for the Nightwish songs, and for some her own own songs as well.
.... Это Тарья ;)
I dont get why tuomas is so bothered by her still singing his songs. they may be his but tarja was the one who gave them life. she carried nightwish on her back, its because of her that the band became successful in the first place so at least he could do is let her continue singing them
Where have you read he is bothered?
Tarja was the Heart of Nigtwish.
Without Tarja was Nightwish only Mainstram no more.
@@Knightrider2709 wouldent call the newest album mainstream lol
If they had never broken the Cardinal rule, band members don't get involved with each other maybe she would still be in NW? It's hardly ever worked in any band!
Too bad Tuomas and Tarja wouldn’t be able to just put aside their differences even just to have each of them appear as a stage guest once in a while.
They don't hate each other anymore but there's simply a few too many hurt feelings to attempt anything of that sort for now
And there are people who have the nerve to say that Floor sings better than Tarja. Whoever says that doesn't understand anything about singing. End of story.
Ela continua mesma coisa voz igual da hora. 👍
Es un angel hermoso ❤️
🤟🤟🙌🙌🙌❤❤❤
Woop woop.