That was beautiful! Too bad the big boy play at 4:42 didn't work, otherwise it would've been flawless. Congrats nonetheless man! This really has been a treat for the eyes
I do this too. Not as successfully, as I get hit more while trying to do this, but still. I hate HH players who queue up buffs, then walk away to buff from a distance... So much wasted damage and stun potential. (R2 attack has the highest stun damage out of all attacks) Maybe because true HH mains are way too rare. And most of the HH players you see just use it for a bit for fun/variation.
@@Sanquinity you hate players who queued up the songs in the monster's face, then took a few rolls to find a safe spot still relatively close to the monster, to rebuff? Sorry dude, you're alone on that one.. before Iceborne's echo attack, this was the hardest thing to get right with this weapon and if someone goes into a Group, if they don't feel like they're that much of an Expert HH user? They should Absolutely take a short distance away from the monster or behind it and use those "precious" seconds to cast a performance and then an encore for a very quick rebuff of 2-3 songs. They should try to master their weapon more all the time ofc, but they shouldn't take stupid risks for "cool dude internet points" when they're in really bad spots.
I main HH and yea it's still an underrated weapon. Sure the weapon isn't as good as other weapons at one particular thing, but you bring so much to a fight. KO's when hitting the head, a huge variety of buffs to choose from, not top damage but still great damage, pretty decent damage numbers for those who like big numbers, and limitless healing if you take a healing horn. The only real disadvantages of the HH are the lacking defensive options (you can only dodge roll) and having to be fairly committed to your attacks as they can take a bit long to complete. (though not as bad as the GS and SA for instance) Luckily with the new buffs left on the ground, high damage twirl attack, 2 extra songs for all horns, and the awesome grappling hook attack the weapon has indeed become a bit more popular. But somehow it's still all the way at the bottom.
What am I doing wrong...why can't I be good with this weapon? I love to see HH gameplay, it's so satisfying and beautiful to use. I watched all of Griffed's guides and learned all the little tricks and combos you can do but I still get trashed by every master rank monster and my killtimes are doubble as long than with CB or LS :'( What am I doing wrong?
Don't lose hope! Also, some weapons are just better than others and there is nothing we can do about it. LS and CB, for example, are out of our reach. However, this doesn't mean that you can't get good times for your weapon class. Keep practicing and watching good HH gameplay. It will help you for sure :)
Hey ! If you're on Xbox I'd love to help. I'm by no means as good as these guys but I use their videos to correct a lot of my mistakes on positioning and what moves to use when, etc etc. A large portion of it is learning through repetition! Either way as he said don't lose hope! Start with a basic monster like low rank rathian and fight that monster over and over until you know it like the back of your hand and you'll gain better confidence / understanding to how top tier players like grifted get where they are :)
@@Doos What also helps is being an expert dodger. As it saves time on being knocked down, and lets you stay close to the monster at all times. I'd never be able to dodge attacks like you, unless I slotted some evade window skills. That, and knowing the monster's movements by heart helps a lot too. I saw how you moved exactly to where you knew the monster would be after it's attacks to attack it right away a few times.
Hey deus. Just wanted to confirm if you can read this. Are you able to bait his big jumping spin attack by mostly staying on his left? Or were you just positioning yourself there and waiting for him to do it?
Ebony Odogaron starts the fight in a frenzy mode where its attacks have dragon element. The monster is also more erratic, which makes it harder to fight. However, if you deal enough elemental damage on its head, you can break it and knock it out of said state. It doesn't need to be ice specifically, the others can work. I went with Velkhana because it's the strongest AuxL HH with some element. After the head is broken, ebony odogaron becomes easier to deal with. Predictable combos and you'll deal more damage .
@@Doos How do you figure that it has to be ele damage to break his head in order to calm him down? Does the ingame hunter notebook has this info or did the community found out by themselves?
I'm new to the HH too. I suggest you start with a support build and from there get used to this weapon. Among all the weapons I feel like this is the one that requires more practice and time to master but the results (as you can see in this video) are worth the time. Once you'll feel comfortable enough start using a build more DPS oriented!
Griffted has made a lot of useful videos about the mechanics of HH. Also I suggest you to not start with a support build because your damage will be absolute shit, playing songs in the corner won't help you learning how to properly fight and playing aggressively with a full support build won't make you feel rewarded after a hunt.
@@dade97asd96 griffted 40minute video right? I didnt watch because it was 5 month a go if not mistaken. Since i craft first hh at iceborne, i thought it will not taught me anything.
@@SoulAL13 It is still really good to understand the basics. The skill will come practicing. I'm starting now, after 2 month, to be a little decent so it takes a lot of practice
Just pick up an HH you like, go to training area and try all the moveset, also learn all the recital/encores, then just keep playing, you'll learn the rest. Also some YT videos might help.
con someone please explain to me how he has purple sharpness? I have the same horn and it has fairly small white sharpness I'm still kinda new to the game just beat iceborn main story
There is a skill that's called handicraft and raises the amount of sharpness your weapon has. Some weapons do have access to purple sharpness this way. Velkhana's HH is one of them and will require said skill. You can see at 5:33 when I show the skills that I have 1 pt of handicraft. The more you invest into the skill, the more you'll get !
@@Doos ok yea I did see that I just didn't know that 1 point would get you to purple with this weapon didn't look like it when I was about to use 1 point of it.
For this monster, you are better off using water. The best HH for this fight is the laguna HH. Ice is a bit underwhelming, so I went more on the raw side. Just to clarify, the element works well with the Echo Attack specifically (spin2win). I'm assuming that's what you meant by echo notes ? It's better on a crit element set but it has to be the main weakness (so in this case, water).
@UCJ1okbLe3OYs1FfioPjt4JA Yes and no. It's worth IF the HH has a lot of elemental and AuxL. The non AuxL and AuL Horns can't compensate the raw they lack without it. For now, laguna is the certified good one. I have yet to see if the other ones can be competitive. Raw is the way to go in general (as the top horn Acidic HH proves it) but in the future, we may see ele HH becoming better.
@@Doos Alright, thanks! I have been using the Laguna a lot since the raw value is similar to other HHs at the level I am. I'll keep that in mind for other horns.
The reason I used the claw three times before engaging is because this is a guaranteed way to enrage the monster. This is very good if you are using the skill agitator. Most of the time, enraged monsters take more damage from your attacks so there is that as well.
Knowing that breaking the head was only possible with elemental, I decided to go for Velkhana. Jho's HH negative affinity was too much to deal with. Btw, I now have a faster run on this monster with the Laguna HH (water one). It's the best horn for this matchup hands down.
AmaDEUS_225 I didn’t know you could only break the head with elemental that’s crazy I play a lot of hunting Horn and I honestly idolize you as a player you are insane there is only one other person I think could come close
![MHW Iceborne [PC]: Alatreon - 11'29"63 - Hunting Horn](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/e0lGlqHxxYU/mqdefault.jpg)
Local strongman saves town by vanquishing hellhound with nothing but a musical instrument!
You mean a chandelier on a pole
I just realized at the end that your character was Bradley from FMA LOL
And I was thinking he was the son of Big Boss and Freddy Mercury ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)
With that intrepid going on in the background, its so so cool.
Great run and great music. You inspire me to keep getting better with HH (and also to go and rewatch FMAB again).
I'm always happy to oblige. Speaking of FMAB, I believe my character should remind you of a certain someone...
@@Doos Well now that you mention it that's a nice King Bradley look you got going, great choice!. That flourish taunt sure is fitting.
That was beautiful!
Too bad the big boy play at 4:42 didn't work, otherwise it would've been flawless.
Congrats nonetheless man! This really has been a treat for the eyes
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Beautifully done, while stylishly executed... very well done my dude
that was art. that one hit you took was almost necessary for me to realise that this was still performed by human hands :D beautiful played!
That dramatic and brutal neck stab at the end wow
A HH player who is actually buffing whilst attacking and attacking whilst buffing.....I´ve seen something magnificent right now.
I do this too. Not as successfully, as I get hit more while trying to do this, but still. I hate HH players who queue up buffs, then walk away to buff from a distance... So much wasted damage and stun potential. (R2 attack has the highest stun damage out of all attacks) Maybe because true HH mains are way too rare. And most of the HH players you see just use it for a bit for fun/variation.
Angh balahr Because it’s hard to do it up close without getting smacked and ruining ur song.
@@Sanquinity you hate players who queued up the songs in the monster's face, then took a few rolls to find a safe spot still relatively close to the monster, to rebuff? Sorry dude, you're alone on that one..
before Iceborne's echo attack, this was the hardest thing to get right with this weapon and if someone goes into a Group, if they don't feel like they're that much of an Expert HH user? They should Absolutely take a short distance away from the monster or behind it and use those "precious" seconds to cast a performance and then an encore for a very quick rebuff of 2-3 songs.
They should try to master their weapon more all the time ofc, but they shouldn't take stupid risks for "cool dude internet points" when they're in really bad spots.
@@toxicitzi357 you're trying to argue that people shouldn't care about playing better to a 2 and a half year old comment dude
GG. You dooted on that doogie like a madman.
This looks NOTHING like me on a hunting horn. You sir are a master. Best hh run I've ever seen. 🤘
Those echo waves were damn juicy. That's some sweetass chin music my dude.
What I like about HH speed runs is that there is no cheese like others weapons, just I guy playing the game.
Its a TAwiki run, all TAwiki runs are like that
Imo there is a 1hour and a half vid bout tsc explaining an aerial hammer speedrun, chessing the monster is WAY harder than doing a TAwiki run
So very true
So stylish with that hh. Nice run deus
wow those damage numbers were crazy
Ayyy, nice run man! Congrats!
The Hunting Horn and Lance were such underrated weapons, I barely saw any back in world, now I'm seeing more of them than usual and it makes me happy
It’s my first MH didn’t know it existed till I couldn’t put it down:-)
I main HH and yea it's still an underrated weapon. Sure the weapon isn't as good as other weapons at one particular thing, but you bring so much to a fight. KO's when hitting the head, a huge variety of buffs to choose from, not top damage but still great damage, pretty decent damage numbers for those who like big numbers, and limitless healing if you take a healing horn.
The only real disadvantages of the HH are the lacking defensive options (you can only dodge roll) and having to be fairly committed to your attacks as they can take a bit long to complete. (though not as bad as the GS and SA for instance)
Luckily with the new buffs left on the ground, high damage twirl attack, 2 extra songs for all horns, and the awesome grappling hook attack the weapon has indeed become a bit more popular. But somehow it's still all the way at the bottom.
Loved the soundtrack for the video
holy moly
What am I doing wrong...why can't I be good with this weapon? I love to see HH gameplay, it's so satisfying and beautiful to use. I watched all of Griffed's guides and learned all the little tricks and combos you can do but I still get trashed by every master rank monster and my killtimes are doubble as long than with CB or LS :'( What am I doing wrong?
Don't lose hope! Also, some weapons are just better than others and there is nothing we can do about it. LS and CB, for example, are out of our reach. However, this doesn't mean that you can't get good times for your weapon class. Keep practicing and watching good HH gameplay. It will help you for sure :)
Hey ! If you're on Xbox I'd love to help. I'm by no means as good as these guys but I use their videos to correct a lot of my mistakes on positioning and what moves to use when, etc etc. A large portion of it is learning through repetition! Either way as he said don't lose hope!
Start with a basic monster like low rank rathian and fight that monster over and over until you know it like the back of your hand and you'll gain better confidence / understanding to how top tier players like grifted get where they are :)
@@Doos What also helps is being an expert dodger. As it saves time on being knocked down, and lets you stay close to the monster at all times. I'd never be able to dodge attacks like you, unless I slotted some evade window skills. That, and knowing the monster's movements by heart helps a lot too. I saw how you moved exactly to where you knew the monster would be after it's attacks to attack it right away a few times.
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気持ちいい(*´ω｀*)
I liked how you stabbed Ebony Odogaron in the face at the end. 🤣
So that's how hunting horn is played
Hey deus. Just wanted to confirm if you can read this. Are you able to bait his big jumping spin attack by mostly staying on his left? Or were you just positioning yourself there and waiting for him to do it?
What does the 300ice ele do to ebony odogaron? What mechanics does it counter?
Ebony Odogaron starts the fight in a frenzy mode where its attacks have dragon element. The monster is also more erratic, which makes it harder to fight. However, if you deal enough elemental damage on its head, you can break it and knock it out of said state. It doesn't need to be ice specifically, the others can work. I went with Velkhana because it's the strongest AuxL HH with some element.
After the head is broken, ebony odogaron becomes easier to deal with. Predictable combos and you'll deal more damage .
@@Doos How do you figure that it has to be ele damage to break his head in order to calm him down? Does the ingame hunter notebook has this info or did the community found out by themselves?
@@-dash. Yes the hunter notes do mention it !
Wholly Shit Full Metal in MHW Love it
I don't how to to git gud in hunting horn just craft acid glavenus hh but i never played hh at all since old monster hunter. I need a guide
I'm new to the HH too. I suggest you start with a support build and from there get used to this weapon. Among all the weapons I feel like this is the one that requires more practice and time to master but the results (as you can see in this video) are worth the time. Once you'll feel comfortable enough start using a build more DPS oriented!
Griffted has made a lot of useful videos about the mechanics of HH. Also I suggest you to not start with a support build because your damage will be absolute shit, playing songs in the corner won't help you learning how to properly fight and playing aggressively with a full support build won't make you feel rewarded after a hunt.
@@dade97asd96 griffted 40minute video right? I didnt watch because it was 5 month a go if not mistaken. Since i craft first hh at iceborne, i thought it will not taught me anything.
@@SoulAL13 It is still really good to understand the basics. The skill will come practicing. I'm starting now, after 2 month, to be a little decent so it takes a lot of practice
Just pick up an HH you like, go to training area and try all the moveset, also learn all the recital/encores, then just keep playing, you'll learn the rest. Also some YT videos might help.
con someone please explain to me how he has purple sharpness? I have the same horn and it has fairly small white sharpness I'm still kinda new to the game just beat iceborn main story
There is a skill that's called handicraft and raises the amount of sharpness your weapon has. Some weapons do have access to purple sharpness this way. Velkhana's HH is one of them and will require said skill.
You can see at 5:33 when I show the skills that I have 1 pt of handicraft. The more you invest into the skill, the more you'll get !
@@Doos ok yea I did see that I just didn't know that 1 point would get you to purple with this weapon didn't look like it when I was about to use 1 point of it.
Dude you blew up.
Thats my HH man so dispointed on the MHW, ao happy it came back on ice born
Ah, so that’s what happened to Bradly after FMAB
Would it be a good idea to have some elemental damage increase like ice attack to boost echo notes?
For this monster, you are better off using water. The best HH for this fight is the laguna HH. Ice is a bit underwhelming, so I went more on the raw side.
Just to clarify, the element works well with the Echo Attack specifically (spin2win). I'm assuming that's what you meant by echo notes ? It's better on a crit element set but it has to be the main weakness (so in this case, water).
@UCJ1okbLe3OYs1FfioPjt4JA Yes and no. It's worth IF the HH has a lot of elemental and AuxL. The non AuxL and AuL Horns can't compensate the raw they lack without it. For now, laguna is the certified good one. I have yet to see if the other ones can be competitive.
Raw is the way to go in general (as the top horn Acidic HH proves it) but in the future, we may see ele HH becoming better.
@@Doos Alright, thanks! I have been using the Laguna a lot since the raw value is similar to other HHs at the level I am. I'll keep that in mind for other horns.
Good god you make it look so easy. xD
Why did you start the hunt with making the monster do a circle?
Just for positioning when you jump of his head?
The reason I used the claw three times before engaging is because this is a guaranteed way to enrage the monster. This is very good if you are using the skill agitator. Most of the time, enraged monsters take more damage from your attacks so there is that as well.
Wait, you can dodge perfect without evade window?? *THAT'S ILLEGAL*
Holy shit
Is there a reason you chose the Vellhana Horn over the Deviljo Horn, I thought deviljo’s would be better because of its high raw
Knowing that breaking the head was only possible with elemental, I decided to go for Velkhana. Jho's HH negative affinity was too much to deal with. Btw, I now have a faster run on this monster with the Laguna HH (water one). It's the best horn for this matchup hands down.
AmaDEUS_225 I didn’t know you could only break the head with elemental that’s crazy I play a lot of hunting Horn and I honestly idolize you as a player you are insane there is only one other person I think could come close
AmaDEUS_225 thank you for the information it’ll definitely help me while I also try to speed run him
@@livingfailure3071 Thank you for the kind words. Best of luck with your speedrunning attempts :) !
HUNTING HORN YAS... im trying to live through hunting horn videos until it comes out on pc D: im jelly
does this man wear nikes wtf hes footing was on point just saying wtf well im hooked
CODDIAZ
Since when did hunting horn look hype wtf?!?