My Old Man was a MP in Nam and a Provost in Germany, a lifer. He’s been retired now for a lot of years. I asked him once what was the hardest part of his job. He told me it was watching young people messing up and getting totally hammered by the military. He said a lot of young people would never have done the things they did if they were home with family. Being away and on your own can be a bit too much responsibility for some. Growing up, Pop was a hard ass. Sitting across from him that night when he told me that, I can honestly say, it was the first time he spoke......looked and sounded troubled about his service. He told me a few stories about young people getting sent to prison. Lives destroyed. I hope the Commanders go easy as often as possible.
Capt's mast once in 1966, Olongapo, PI. Got busted by shore patrol for fighting. Penalty, 30 days restriction and forfeiture of 10 days pay. Luckily kept my crow.
Those days are long over Shipmate, I joined in 95' and the Zero Tolerance thing was pretty big. Young Sailors make mistakes, its up to the Navy to make them into better people, but some make even the smallest of mistakes and end up losing their Naval Carrier. I have seen many gone by Liberty Weekend sad to say.
I'm so glad I was never a drinker, I never partied with my Shipmates, I was always studying for something, or reading a book. I wasn't popular that's for sure.
I too was a non drinker, non smoker and didn’t use drugs. I was in the army stationed in Germany in the last 70s. I was considered an oddball. Also, being in an all male unit, the troops often spoke of their sexual exploits prior to joining the army. The leadership was poor back then and had the attitude of “boys will be boys.” Most discipline problems were with troops with less than two years service.
I was the same way. I took a correspondence course in Differential Equations, which I transferred later. You are not unique! When I was in the military 🪖, I always was pressured to drink and take drugs! I always resisted the pressure! I know that drugs and alcohol 🍸 bring you down! Unlike most of the world's 8 billion people, Drug-free and Alcohol-free since 1957!
I remember hearing about a notorious hotel party during the holidays. It happened when I was still in Great Lakes, but my A School in Meridian, MS held a hotel party around Christmas 2008. What I heard was hotel party caused $10,000 in damages. When I got there in late January the whole base was on restriction. We had Orange dot for indocks, Red dots for leave of base with uniform, Yellow dot means leave of base in civies, and Green dot means weekend leave. We lost our Green dot status before I even showed up.
At every port-o-call, all the Petty Officers Weapons Department chipped in and booked a multi-room suite in town. We told our lower ranking AO's they can crash out at the suite at no expense for liberty, to sober up, recover and stay out of trouble. We always had someone from Weapons on shore patrol and at the quarterdeck to 'intercept' any drunk AO's and escort them directly to berthing thus avoiding the OOD and Master at Arms. Our proudest moment was that no AO's ended up at Captain's mast.
Awesome video! The acting was GREAT! It looks so realistic, you guys did a great job on this! LOL, several times I kept wondering if that was a real Mast or not!
By what authority does CID go into this hotel and arrest these people? Don't answer the door and call the police. Find out if they can sue the hotel. The military was bad enough when I was in, but at least they left you alone on your own time (what there was of it). This is pathetic.
From the looks of it, this "hotel" is the temporary lodging facility on base. Everything on base is under military jurisdiction. The military police on the base have every right to be in that hotel and arrest the sailors. They signed their life away to Uncle Sam already they go by his rules.
"When you raised you right hand you said to obey the regulations"....Naw that wasn't in the oath I took Warrant. I said to defend the constitution from all enemy foreign and domestic...
Drinking too much booze can have disastrous consequences, sometimes fatal ones. Even civilians can face lifetime consequences for their drinking e.g. a fight that results in the death of someone at that party.
Man, in the 80s it was your duty from 18 years old and up to get plowed every day all day, they had clubs on base, beer and wine, alcohol, didn't matter. Overseas like subic they even paid for healthcare for the street women. Believe me, the Only way to get through the day was Alcohol.
I helped so many of my shipmates back to the ship that were so drunk they could barely walk. Needless to say when I had duty I wasn't there to help and they ruined there careers.
Good question. It appears our military is now controlled by an unholy alliance of the blue nosed puritanical left and fundamentalist protestant jocks. Both suck.
The townies are happy for the bucks, but you make more trouble than the money, they'll roll on you in a heartbeat. In Fredericksburg, I always knew when the jarheads got out of Quantico. And they rankled the Navy guys at NSWC in Dahlgren. If any came up from AP Hill (most of them probably went down to Shockoe Bottom for the much more diverse wildlife), they were quiet. A little wild, but not crazy wild.
Navy secretary (1981-1987) John Layman had a policy if you had an ID card you can drink at a Navy station, as NO STATE LAWS apply on Federal Lands. you are suggesting this has changed? unless some major laws have changed, Sailors who signed to serve, Should LAWFULLY drink, without any State Law in the way. ..US Constitution ring a bell
Naw, you have to be 21 and over even on base. Now if you are deployed, and that country's drinking age is lower (let's say 18) then you are permitted to consume alcohol if you are said age. This ain't the Navy of the '80s no more. They want choirboys not fighting men. And this is coming from an active duty sailor.
Speaking as a disabled veteran (hit by a drunk driver on duty) who was proud to serve, I say that ALL of the branches should be much, much more selective in the recruits that are selected. There's NO excuse for this behavior. Quality as opposed to quantity.
Life was much simpler when the on-base drinking age was 18. Serving in the military now is too monastic for normal Americans. If you don't give the troops a legal way to blow off stream then what are they supposed to do? They thought they were joining the military and not a religious order.
One of the problems with the military 🪖 is that there is too much drinking, drugs, and violent behavior due to the stress. This behavior affects all of the ranks.
My Old Man was a MP in Nam and a Provost in Germany, a lifer. He’s been retired now for a lot of years. I asked him once what was the hardest part of his job. He told me it was watching young people messing up and getting totally hammered by the military. He said a lot of young people would never have done the things they did if they were home with family. Being away and on your own can be a bit too much responsibility for some. Growing up, Pop was a hard ass. Sitting across from him that night when he told me that, I can honestly say, it was the first time he spoke......looked and sounded troubled about his service. He told me a few stories about young people getting sent to prison. Lives destroyed. I hope the Commanders go easy as often as possible.
Retired AF. Used to tell the troops to have a good time not a great time. Good times don’t require paperwork afterwards.
Capt's mast once in 1966, Olongapo, PI. Got busted by shore patrol for fighting. Penalty, 30 days restriction and forfeiture of 10 days pay. Luckily kept my crow.
Those days are long over Shipmate, I joined in 95' and the Zero Tolerance thing was pretty big. Young Sailors make mistakes, its up to the Navy to make them into better people, but some make even the smallest of mistakes and end up losing their Naval Carrier. I have seen many gone by Liberty Weekend sad to say.
I'm so glad I was never a drinker, I never partied with my Shipmates, I was always studying for something, or reading a book. I wasn't popular that's for sure.
Smart man
I too was a non drinker, non smoker and didn’t use drugs. I was in the army stationed in Germany in the last 70s. I was considered an oddball. Also, being in an all male unit, the troops often spoke of their sexual exploits prior to joining the army. The leadership was poor back then and had the attitude of “boys will be boys.”
Most discipline problems were with troops with less than two years service.
How are you doing now man
I was the same way. I took a correspondence course in Differential Equations, which I transferred later. You are not unique!
When I was in the military 🪖, I always was pressured to drink and take drugs! I always resisted the pressure! I know that drugs and alcohol 🍸 bring you down!
Unlike most of the world's 8 billion people, Drug-free and Alcohol-free since 1957!
I remember hearing about a notorious hotel party during the holidays. It happened when I was still in Great Lakes, but my A School in Meridian, MS held a hotel party around Christmas 2008. What I heard was hotel party caused $10,000 in damages. When I got there in late January the whole base was on restriction. We had Orange dot for indocks, Red dots for leave of base with uniform, Yellow dot means leave of base in civies, and Green dot means weekend leave. We lost our Green dot status before I even showed up.
What if the higher ups realized the navy drives us to drink
They will never admit that cause that’s 2 separate VA claims when you get out
Negative! You are a professional, act like one
Wow if I heard correctly, they were only awarded 14 days restriction and one week's pay of a fine...where is this picnic of a command?
They couldnt find a Captain?
😂😂😂😂
He said it was TSC... so Great Lakes, IL... but if you get sent up for that here you’re getting way more than 14/14. More like 30/30 or 45/45
Turn the music down!! I could hardly tell what was spoken.
What a fun few days of work for these sailors making the video! The ladies on top of the secretary desk was 100% spot on.
At every port-o-call, all the Petty Officers Weapons Department chipped in and booked a multi-room suite in town. We told our lower ranking AO's they can crash out at the suite at no expense for liberty, to sober up, recover and stay out of trouble. We always had someone from Weapons on shore patrol and at the quarterdeck to 'intercept' any drunk AO's and escort them directly to berthing thus avoiding the OOD and Master at Arms. Our proudest moment was that no AO's ended up at Captain's mast.
Another good video, I wish these were around when I was in the military. A good way to take care of your own.
This happened to a lot of dumbasses I knew in A school. They got kicked out of the Navy
We always kept our drinking way off base. And that party looked pretty tame.
Great editing, great acting, excellent overall quality.
Background music is too loud.
Awesome video! The acting was GREAT! It looks so realistic, you guys did a great job on this!
LOL, several times I kept wondering if that was a real Mast or not!
That was done really well guys. I miss working with you all!!!!!
By what authority does CID go into this hotel and arrest these people? Don't answer the door and call the police. Find out if they can sue the hotel. The military was bad enough when I was in, but at least they left you alone on your own time (what there was of it). This is pathetic.
From the looks of it, this "hotel" is the temporary lodging facility on base. Everything on base is under military jurisdiction. The military police on the base have every right to be in that hotel and arrest the sailors. They signed their life away to Uncle Sam already they go by his rules.
Oh....you're woefully mistaken. Even if local police were there...word would have gotten back to the captain and things would have been a lot worse.
NCIS*
When I first joined the Navy I looked into being an MA but I wasn’t qualified.
My parent were married…..
"When you raised you right hand you said to obey the regulations"....Naw that wasn't in the oath I took Warrant. I said to defend the constitution from all enemy foreign and domestic...
Drinking too much booze can have disastrous consequences, sometimes fatal ones. Even civilians can face lifetime consequences for their drinking e.g. a fight that results in the death of someone at that party.
David W even civilian.... duh... Sherlock
Man, in the 80s it was your duty from 18 years old and up to get plowed every day all day, they had clubs on base, beer and wine, alcohol, didn't matter. Overseas like subic they even paid for healthcare for the street women. Believe me, the Only way to get through the day was Alcohol.
I helped so many of my shipmates back to the ship that were so drunk they could barely walk. Needless to say when I had duty I wasn't there to help and they ruined there careers.
Having watched many of these videos on different channels, I've yet to see any referrals to DAPA.
Shit, we used to party in the barracks and in the clubs. Never in a hotel. So what is the difference if it is in the barracks or the hotel??
Good question. It appears our military is now controlled by an unholy alliance of the blue nosed puritanical left and fundamentalist protestant jocks. Both suck.
The townies are happy for the bucks, but you make more trouble than the money, they'll roll on you in a heartbeat. In Fredericksburg, I always knew when the jarheads got out of Quantico. And they rankled the Navy guys at NSWC in Dahlgren. If any came up from AP Hill (most of them probably went down to Shockoe Bottom for the much more diverse wildlife), they were quiet. A little wild, but not crazy wild.
Since when do warrant officers conduct captain mast???????????????
I was going to ask the same question.
I was going to ask the same question.
You used to make Chief if you passed alcohol rehab. they make us old sailors retire to erase what really goes on in the navy.
If you're old enough to put on the Uniform you're old enough to have a beer. Just my 2 cents.
Navy secretary (1981-1987) John Layman had a policy if you had an ID card you can drink at a Navy station, as NO STATE LAWS apply on Federal Lands. you are suggesting this has changed? unless some major laws have changed, Sailors who signed to serve, Should LAWFULLY drink, without any State Law in the way. ..US Constitution ring a bell
Naw, you have to be 21 and over even on base. Now if you are deployed, and that country's drinking age is lower (let's say 18) then you are permitted to consume alcohol if you are said age. This ain't the Navy of the '80s no more. They want choirboys not fighting men. And this is coming from an active duty sailor.
Yes and they had 3.2 beer, was in 79-02. Seen it all in 23 years
Learned early in my time in, have a party off base.
Hope they threw the book at those damn waves... & busted them just for the hell of it.
Wait, he is a CWO. It isn't captain mast
Never heard of DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY?
Speaking as a disabled veteran (hit by a drunk driver on duty) who was proud to serve, I say that ALL of the branches should be much, much more selective in the recruits that are selected. There's NO excuse for this behavior. Quality as opposed to quantity.
Cant get enough people as is
Damm 😂😂😂 this is a party 😂
YES!!! (: we rock...just saying.
Life was much simpler when the on-base drinking age was 18. Serving in the military now is too monastic for normal Americans. If you don't give the troops a legal way to blow off stream then what are they supposed to do? They thought they were joining the military and not a religious order.
So this is what happens on the surface
jodys roll in hay
scotts thinking some other way
haze grey knot today
Underage drinking should be allowed in the military.
Hey next time, lower the music volume...
Navy shore patrol
hey my sister is in this video
Don't be that guy!!!
participation
anthonys penetratioin
goffreds creation
Um, good job making the hotel parties look... awesome...
artie breyn ordelle
grady white nantucket swell
funeral dirge belle
But if they were trans or gay they would be fine.
"I'll take "Tell me you're a bigoted fool without explictly saying you are a bigoted fool for $400" please Mayim"
One of the problems with the military 🪖 is that there is too much drinking, drugs, and violent behavior due to the stress. This behavior affects all of the ranks.