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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- It's not hard, you're probably just underprepared or need to study up a bit.
Speaking of being underprepared, I decided to do a run where I cripple myself juts to show how hard this dungeon isn't.
Weapon-less Asura Dungeon Clear:
• NA Elsword - Add Fusio...
![[Elsword TW] AN / FL - Routine 20240907](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Y8UOEF1OXww/mqdefault.jpg)
Today on "Please read this before you comment something stupid"...
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"wahhh ur class carried u can seeje from far away!!11"
I used multiple exclusively close-ranged skills. Mark of Commander requires you to be right in their face and is canceled if you take a hit while using it. Elastic Bomb, Magnum Shot, and Chaos Cannon ALL lose effectiveness from a distance.
I've axed my weapon. As I do this, you complain about my class.
Let's say I axe my class. If I do this, you will complain about my armor.
Let's say I axe my armor. If I do this, you will complain about my slots.
Let's say I axe my slots. If I do this, you will complain about my items.
Also, an Ara did this weaponless. See video description. If neither of those things have convinced you then nothing will.
"Can you do another video of this but _____"
I'm not going to further cripple myself to try to appease some dumb ccommentors who are too stubborn to see the point of the video anyway. If I was, I could end up making video after video after video of crippling myself further and further as the comments section continues
to grasp more and more.
Also, this video got shitty reception. I guess people hate when they're told why their self-imposed victimhood is wrong.
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If you're unconvinced now, that's your fault.
More and more people are putting up videos where they run the dungeon while crippling themselves. It's not just me (though if you had actually watched the video, you would know that).
Multiple people drop their weapons, and you find something else to complain about. "hurr hurr, u didnt cripple urself enuf!111" Well, let me just run the dungeon again, using a base Eve, no euqipment, items, or skills, with the Z and X buttons pried off the keyboard, blindfolded, while wearing boxing gloves, unicycling through a Mexican McDonalds while using their dial-up internet.
And, it's whatever. Making this video was me doing my part, and I'm done. If you want to continue your self-victimhood and cry about how hard this dungeon is despite multiple videos proving it's not, then I guess you can go right on ahead.
why would I complain about your armor and slots,all of that is based around the enhancement level of the item,tho I admit anything beyound a +9 is pay2win,but for normal players its standart issue to have atleast that +7-8 to even to start the dungeon,and have balanced sockets to even survive that slaughter.(considering the dungeon will not even let you in with an item level for 130 or below,wich is wierd,looking as this dungeon is more challenging than heroic normal,and that requires 160 item level)
no,items armor titles ect are not my main concern here,Im mainly getting the problem about your choice of class.
Except that my choice of class isnt a problem to begin with. And you'd be surprised, people are already complaining about my armor choice. People just really like grasping it seems.
idk why complain about choice of armor,like Im using warlord set and it can be a life saver,also provides a decent amount of damage.
logic:armor is made to keep you alive,so picking the best armor is obviouse.
Id see why complain about weapons but I dont get why about armor?
The reason they complain about armor is because they're grasping and just want to complain about anything. People in the comments section here are really desperate and will cling to any chance to belittle or downplay me and the video.
Wondering how long Apostasia will be able to finish the dung with a +0. e.e
I would go in the dungeon, but I don't have a high enough item level...
same
Elsword and MMD I know how u feel
You guys are complaining about something, missing an important point:
This is end game content..
I equip lvl requirement isn't there for nothing, and it's supposed to stop a player unsuitable for the task.
Someone interested in the weapon should at least follow a progression path, and that is SD>Henir/Heroic> and then elianod / void.
Someone who's using SD or under shouldn't be there, so there's no point arguing that x person is too weak to clear the dungeon.
The real handicap that should be put is doing the dungeon at exact same lvl requirement.
But not only that, bro is doing with a +0. More than enough.
Gonna agree with this; the dungeon isnt hard (except the with 3 Berueks) but it is challenging. However, I will point out that it is a lot harder for VCs (like myself) as we also have to watch out HP drop as well as not get hit.
Not slagging off your choice of class but rather saying its easy for some but more challenging for others. I have completed the dungeon multiple times with VC with rightly timed potions so its possible but whilst other characters can have super OP weapons and damage, VC cant have strong weapons as it counts toward the Overheat recoil damage which is super inconvenient.
Repeat, not slagging off class choice, just merely saying some classes struggle against others but if the effort is put in, it is possible.
I mean as fellow
VC main, shadow step and spamming strength skill are all I recommend to you to not die lol
Zihler-kun Personally I choose not to use Shadow step but rather use El Lord weapon accessory to reduce the cooldown of Deadly Raid and spam that to hell, which is surprisingly effective
-EZDoesIt- well it is sometimes best to adjust to different things considering this particular dungeon isn't much like the others. Play with your skills a bit to accommodate for your areas of weakness
Zihler-kun Words of wisdom! I know one of my weaknesses is that I'm slow to react to potions when I need them so by having long i-frame skills such as Deadly Raid or Hellfire Gatling helps me quickly asses my potions and give my fingers a chance to recover before I combo again
-EZDoesIt- sounds like a reaction issue
Beruak is honestly my only issue. (sometimes as well as the boss cause I can't run away fast enough slow reflex for the win) @.@ but nice job. ♥ this video gives me hope to try to get to stage 8.
If you cleared it with those stats then there's no way I can't clear it with my stats.
DING DING DING
Someone finally understands the point of this video!
Now, we just need to know the Enemy's patterns.
IMO, the patterns are really easy to memorize, its just the timings that all matters, the two Ravens, and the Eve, is basically a PvP bot with so many buffs, get your PvP skills and rekt them, the one with the big hammer can be just nuked and also have super armor so that u can tank the hits a bit and not interrupt your combo, the altera guy is relatively ez but annoying so do the altera tactics, and lastly the berauks, what I hate the most.... just try to time your skills to the lightnings and predict it... the boss is also Ez but also annoying, so attribute resistance and super armor can help you, and try to have the skills with longer animation so that u can dodge the aoe skills it has...
After spamming it so many times, it became easy, was hard at first because i had no idea what the dung had but now that i know it's easy af
People still say this dungeon is hard in 2019
Yet it's because they don't stratigize and think that just rushing into something and spamming skills will work everytime. Each room has a different strategy to take it down efficiently. The add dungeon isn't hard, it's just that people don't know how to think
At all for that matter.
i spam skills and use mp pots ez
ive only called this dungeon hard in my first 2-3 fails lmao
@@thedragoboss1000 I will admit some characters can breeze through it easier than others.
@@thedragoboss1000 recently did it weaponless. Its not that hard
Those people probably are fresh at 70k cp
I was one of those who was like 'of course it isn't hard when you have a +11/12 blah blah etc' when the first video came along, but honestly once you learn the patterns of the boss/mobs and tactics around them it really ... isn't hard at all. It becomes a mindless repetition and awareness of how you can get caught or escape. Started from 9 minute runs down to 5 just because you learn the dungeon (also plus Demonio so lmfao transformations), but I'm sure I could replicate it on other alts who don't have easy access to stoic etc.
Unfortunately people will never be fully happy. Inb4 no skills or pots. ;(
Balls deep, combos only.
It's still nice to see a video like this, despite it having to be to squash people who keep complaining LOL.
the only boss i struggle on is the 3 lizard guys there lighting hits are almost 1 shots
I'm gonna agree that the dungeon really isn't that difficult. I main CN, and she's more close ranged. I do have a 5/5 Dragonic Force gear (+8 Amour and +9 Weapon), but that still meets the minimum equipment requirement (163). I still get one-shotted a bunch of times even with my weapons and buffs, but once you understand what to do the dungeon itself is fairly easy. Like for example, I learned the more you spam Atomic Shield, the safer I will be (it reduces A LOT of damage). The dungeon may be sort of hard, but depending on how you play it's fairly easy.
Hard? No. Spam-heavy, mindless and lazily made? You bet.
Bran, I completely agree with your statement "Add dungeon isn't really hard" (This is coming from a guy that barely has 160 item level), but did you ever think of opinions?
Everyone has their own opinions. If it's hard for them, it's hard for them. If it's easy for them, it's easy for them
You could say that enjoying the feeling of a whip cracking across your back is an opinion
While it is an opinion, its still widely considered a negative thing
The Add Dungeon should be viewed the same way. While its difficulty is an opinion, it should be considered something that is still pretty easy.
Because it is
i just hate it because my characters item level is 159 and it wont let me go into the dungeon because the required item level is 160 (my character's level 99)
jake wilson lol XDD
Thats too bad
my item lvl is 15 ;-;
And now that 3rd jobs are out I think anyone can beat it.
american tactical trooper's voice is soooooooooooo cute wtf
Imagine thinking this is hard a average run for me is 2mins
Ive only cleared this once on my dc, and i used so many items and spammed freeze frames, i cant handle the berauks
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I figure you might not reply to this, but here goes anyway. I'm not saying the dungeon itself is hard, I'm just saying that I'm having difficulty in it, so I'm just wondering whether you'd be able to clear the dungeon but with a different character because your Chung seemed to be able to stun-lock the enemies really well and haha, I can't exactly say the same for my Ain. Furthermore, what armor are you wearing? I saw your follow up video with the people talking about it being Time and Space 4th Dimension gear but it looks different sooo, yeah-
IF YOU CAN DO IT without gear then wdf am i struggling for with a +10
SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS THE POINT OF THIS VIDEO
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if you don't do the add's theory at least to know the patterns of all the mini-boss and boss then yeah you will think it's difficult. When you do it a couple times and know your skills, it's not impossible with a +8 or +9
just practice and it will become esier and change your attribute weapon maybe for a double attribute like light/Ice or Wind/Ice
Only part that i have trouble with is that lightning guy he is anoying af
With my CBS, I would use flight as my defense, since I know that class is no good at tanking. My first run, I was scared off after the first fight due to believing I wasn't geared enough. I play NA version with fully enhanced Altera SD set. I'm getting a heroic set for this too, but I really don't see the need since I have a ton of items from getting the Elpheus set and seeing this video.
Was the point of this video just to tell people they're bad?
No. Was the point of this comment just to guilt trip?
Brancliff No. It was a serious question. It seemed like you were proving this dungeon wasn't hard in a condescending manner almost. Not saying this objectively, but subjectively.
Irelight yeah pretty sure
You are actually bad if you complain about equipping or classes
Because first you can become the same class your self
Second he worked hard or paid cash for those equipments
The most creative Name ever I don't understand what this comment has to do with my original point.
The only problem I have with this dungeon is the 3 time resurrection limit. Otherwise I would always be trying this dungeon but I die too fast I’m just a nub I guess, even with all the examples I see from other people with similar classes as mine. It just doesn’t work for some people. Every once in a blue moon I can clear it but it’s extremely rare for me to beat it consecutively. Like winning the dam lottery. Ah well.
the dungeon is so hard brancliff is just geer carried xdddd
I sê your point Brancliff. But wouldn't it be more convincing if u don't use Apple ?
I cant seem to do it on DC idk if it is because me not being good or me not having extend slots but everytime the 3 shaman come i get screwed everything else is fine basically
Its really ur disadvantage there bcus in that stage u have to spam a lot of skills faster than him and doing it w/ no skill slot B is really gonna get hard
Can't spam enough with my YR e.e not enough mana gain.
No what i ment by extended slot I do have skill slot B but not quick slots
Ahh..
this is a little challenge,
+7 top dragonic
+7 bottom type s
+7 gloves mk5
+7 shoes ancient noble guardian
+9 weapon sand tempest
no accessories, no costume, no élite monster cards, only apples complete potions and advanced vitality potions
as a wise man once said,the power to overcome your obstacle lies within you,not within your weapon.
yet showing an example of a dungeon being difficult or not with a TT is kinda cheating,considering you can just lock out the whole room with barrages of rockets and siege spam *not saying you shouldn't use siege or spam explosives,it's TT in a nutshell its what he dose*
just saying you should do it with someone who doesn't have the following (full super armor tanking,room lockdown,press one button hero) and is within sword range.
because the following mentioned is a handicap for a player in the game to make everything easy,and baisicly forces you into playing that specific hero to win.
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"wow brancliff you sure didnt cripple yourself enough
you should take away your item slots
skill slots
arrmor sockets
title
accessories
consumable items
guild skills
actual skills
Z button
X button
you should put on a blindfold
you should only play using your teeth
you should use windows 2000"
Fuck all y'all, I crippled myself enough. I'm not going to reduce myself even further just to prove a point to people who refuse to be convinced anyways. People have 1.5x my attack and stats and yet they're still saying the dungeon is too hard. It's not too hard - it's not even hard when I don't even use a proper weapon.
Also, check out the ASURA that I talked about in the video. She's NOT A TT and is in the video description.
Brancliff oh sorry I didn't feel like watching the video for more than 1 minute, considering you just stayd within invincibility frames until the boss died,I probably forgot to add a section about full skill spam into invincibility and kill a boss.
of all heroes you chose ara
are trying to amuse me?
tell how many heroes are in the game like ara that can just use arts and loong skills that can keep you invincible and break opponents in half with just a handful of skills, honestly not much but I guess cbs and DiE,maybe even EM.
you most definitely can't do that with elboys,ravens,(questionably LP and MM)CEm.
I'm not saying for you to get rid of your god damn clothes off and do a rebelliel style challenge run,so put your pants back on and focus on characters that will be difficult to do with,not with characters that you know you can do it with.
Ohhh, you didn't watch the video. Well cool, that explains why that comment had so many holes in it.
Also, while I am linking an Asura, it's not like I chose that on purpose. That's just the only video I know of someone doing it weaponless. If anyone else did it weaponless I'd link them as well because it would give me *more proof that this dungeon is not difficult*.
And don't complain about "full skill spam", because any class can do that. Although classes do have inherently different resource generation, thanks to item access, you'll never be short of MP (unless you facetank Berauk's lightning on purpose)
well complaining about skill spam is pointless considering the whole game is based around that,tho not every class/hero can do that as efficiently as ara,cool downs and the ammount of time you spend within invincibility frames on abilitys is also put into consideration here,example:some can do exactly the same thing as the ara in that video,yet they will be left with heavy cd's on big abilitys,and the boss will not even be at half hp,ok worst case scenario is that your good medium tier dmg abilitys are on cd from 6-10 seconds and your abilitys have bearly any I frames,maybe somehow you can outrun beruaks lightning spam while it kds,because tanking him is a bad idea.
Not saying this didn't help but I tried It your way with A +8 henir cannon and heroic armour on and still couldn't beat berauk.
ιиѕαиιту flσωz u are a TT? If yes try heavy field then HA then spam siege, i can beat berauk with this and i have +8 heroic with 4/5 4D :v
Shinta Lioe I have a +8 4D with 4/5 heroic
ιиѕαиιту flσωz your gear are better than me
Shinta Lioe its all +7 and one +8
ιиѕαиιту flσωz all my armor are +6 just my weapon +8, try heavy field and HA then spam siege and use pot when needed or u can just use HA and use pot when low hp
THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS!
now all those haters can shut up and "Git Gud" like i said in the last video. LEARN YOUR FUCKING CLASSES GUYS, it's not that hard to learn how to really play a class as intended...
hence why tons say VP sucks.... cause she's suddenly a "keep away" class.....
also, to anyone bitching about this being hard.... don't try heroic hell.... and i mean SOLO....
although you still might die in groups....
RIP Melee characters they say for this dungeon. But yet here's me clearing dungeon with no deaths being as melee and squishy as possible. lolwat?
I never got the impression anything in this game was suppose to be difficult.
It's all about going as fast as possible.
Brancliff made me wanna make a TT and I love it. Thanks man for showing the awsomeness of TT
Okay guys basically, wear your best armor to have high hp and red damage and guzzle potions like theres no tomorrow and you can win. 😐 also, dont touch anything basically if youre barely meeting 160 item lv requirement and are a melee class dont touch this, just get carried in henir and get yourself a nice 4d (its getting buffed) plus, if youre barely meeting item lv of 160 you dont need this weap.. it only gets good at +10
on a side note, bran is playing a class that he knows in and out and does what works for him if you cant beat it on your own you kinda just have to get good tbh..
The 4D buff only applies if you're wearing 4D 5/5 and it's not a very large buff. But apart from that, this is a very good comment :D
also also, im half asleep my comments are irrelevant just load up and pay to win
Ixvan P. -is a GA- Oh well this is gonna be good
dude, DW is a melee class and i beat it with her stats less than half of what i normally got them.... plus her super armor makes her take 20% more damage while under it
if you know the ins and outs of your class, you can clear this.. i bet even LK and VP (who tons say aren't worth it anymore) can still clear this easy....
Is it possible to clear this dungeon without using any consumables? For me the Lightning Lizards are the problem... It's hard to kill the first 2 without getting hit... Not to mention the Lightning drains your MP and slows you..
Kevin Eontrainer I just use my hyperactive to one shot the lizards
Yeah. now that I got the weapon already I don't even need HA and consumables to knock the lizards. The weapon is a real deal
That's what we called a mortal trying to be a God
-Trying? More like, succeeding-
Whenever I try to do it I keep getting one shot by the Berauk, or killed in the time my consumables are on cooldown. Also, do you need to be using Apple or will any Epic NPC card work?
I'm not actually sure if the Apple card helped at all.
You may have to play more defensively in order to survive - your ability to facetank hits and heal them off has a lot of factors involved, and if you can't quite do that, you'll have to make up for it by avoiding attacks (except in the ENPC room, where they're all just fast and not-really-telegraphed).
Alright, I'll try that then, although I have a hard time understanding the Berauk's attacks, specifically it looks like the lighting strikes are supposed to be telegraphed but sometimes they strike without that spot on the ground ever showing up.
Do the in-depth dungeon video (I didnt bother checking if anyone commented already) cuz yes.
that feel when u cant enter the dungeon because of low item level ;~;
i feel ya
I would say using Battle Potions will really help w/ spamming this dungeon. Simply because it delivers a high boost of damage dealt.
*cough*(consideringImainMM) *cough*
And ultimate fury does way more BS damage w/ it
I've tried it once with my Noblesse (99 and that time hasn't resonanced yet), starts with the fckin hammer monsters and I cant continue that cuz my NB stats r sucks af, using Supersonic title, the +3 items (pot) still not unlocked yet
and of course my NB HP not as mucy as yours, it didnt even touch 210k maybe
You're pretty unprepared. The lack of resonance will hinder you greatly, and the hammer stage is actually probably the easiest. Supersonic is also a pretty bad title.
The hardest part is always the boss. I can clear that with +8 but damn i just keep running into corner and out of MP when the boss teleport and use EMP Storm infront of my face and i die
how do i beat this on my DC when i only have 8+ armor and 9+ 3rd dem henir wep
:c
Then this add dungeon should be easy if i got the right consumables and stuff
Hi, here's a guy playing the EU version. I'm playing a LP and can actually run the dungeon without dying mostly, but the problem for me is, that I take quite some time to do so(~12 min), so my question would be, any idea as to how I can improve my finishing times? I currently have 22824 MATK, 10727 Maximize and 54,01% Krit, but can't seem to finish faster than 10 minutes :/
WTF, i play LP in the italian server and my best time was 7:42 with +8 Henir weapon 4D, and dragonic set level 80, have you try to change skill and spam more item?
Holy crap I forgot to respond to this, fffff-- wait, there's an italian server?
Anyways uhh
Spamming items does you a lot of good because it fills you with the MP you need to shoot out your strongest skills
I can tell that your crit and max are unbalanced - you probably have a lot more maximize than crit. It helps to have them closer together because both stats have diminishing returns
Other than that, it probably has to do with your skill choice and playstyle. It shouldn't take anyone 12 minutes - considering I could do it faster with half your magic attack. Not to make you feel bad or anything, but something's up. Maybe you should record a video of you doing it and see if someone can provide some more specific advice?
do you have any tips for a full +9 LP? cause i reached the boss only once and always get decimated at the fucking berauks =-=
While the berauks are pretty dumb, Type-Void will telegraph all of his attacks. This means you can tell what he's going to do before the hitboxes show up. Study his attacks and learn how to dodge them.
Alternatively, use long special actives such as conqueror and psychic storm to just invincibility your way through them (that's not a verb but go with it). Spam items to give you the HP to survive attacks and the MP to mana break or special active through them. If you don't have extended quick slots yet, strongly consider them, they're super helpful in this dungeon - and just in dungeons in general.
i agree on the extended skill slot,i got one on my DC when they were giving it for free and the flexibility of options becomes REALLY good,problem is when theyre using their storm attack. in 2-3 hits im dead and even if i tank the first one with DPC -50 mana can screw me up ALOT and the boss indeed is easy, when i got to it i died cause i lost my concentraton and got caught in his dome skill midair.
then apparently im just bad at this game, lvl 99 35 resonance, 4th dimension weapon lvl 8 60% crit and 21 k base damage.
Acceptance is the first step to recovery
Brancliff the solution is one: fuck this dungeon
Try just spamming skills while they attack, at least with DC it's really easy
Rammy my stat are more worse but i can clear it, but it take a long time (bad spelling sorry)
Would a 4th Dimension Blade and +6 Enhanced ANG armor + accessory be enough for dis? Currently running a max lvl BM
I mean... this dungeon has been completed *without a weapon at all*, so I'm sure you could make it work if you play your cards right
Brancliff Yeah, but it still requires a minimum of 160 Item Level. Thankfully this attendance event offers a +9 Amulet for 20 logins
its not hard, it just gets so f'ing annoying in some parts. and the fact that I probably have to run it 1k times is shitty. I just wish the drop chance was better.
Lol elsword is blessing u with a guarantee at getting the best weapon in the game if it doesnt drop after 1000 runs
I already ran 1000 times.... No drops
I even have the achivement for display
I didn’t say from drops, I said obtaining it, obviously that means the achievement but you obviously don’t have half the brain cell it took to piece that together
after playing this with my own TT while not bieng as OP in stats is still very easy mainly cuz his massive nukes like carpet and etc. as you said the weapon only makes it take less time
>not being as OP in stats
>I used a fucking +0 weapon
Why do all of you keep doing this?
I just agreed with you lol....
well maybe I said it in a wrong way :/ but yeah I get the point of the video
I see the strategy in TT for completing this dungeon. But how would an LK go about it? He has to be up close. Tips?
Arma Blade allows for you to hitstun enemies that are still far away, preventing you from getting completely ganked
Since MP is a non-issue, Iron Body as much as you can
Windmill is probably top 5 grouping skills in the entire game, despite being melee
Like any other class, spamming items allows you to restore your HP - but will give you MP as well, allowing you to use skills that give you valuable invincibility frames, preventing the risk of taking HP damage in the first place
Any and all preparation you can do beforehand will work wonders, even simple things, such as
>Taking a bath
>Drinking an elixir
>Completing a mission
>Upgrading your equipment
Aye lad! I can get to the boss pretty easily but he just one-shots me. I guess I just need to keep doin it till I get his attack patterns memorized. Thanks dude, I appreciate it!
not everyone is playing with chung, for example, i have add DiE, and it's hella hard, i even have +9 with my hero weapon, but it's still quite hard.
You're using a +9 heroic weapon.
I'm using a +0 weapon.
yes, and it's still kinda hard for me, idk how you did that, but dude, that was freaking amazing, it takes few hits for mobs to get my HP from 100% to 0%, sometimes i have to use 3 stones at once.
it's not difficult cuz' You can use consumables, all of my chars are strong like a paper piece, but the fact that you can use potions makes it sooooo easy (even for me, that I use SD armor)
If you're still with a struggle with this dungeon, try using light element or trackers elixir
Fun fact: With this equipment one wouldn't even be able to access the dungeon.
You mean there was a **reason** that I entered the dungeon with an actual weapon before crippling myself by downgrading it?
you actually derp it, how can we clear the dungeon if we don't even have the required equipment level lol.
Mastermindmx You change the gear during the cutscene?
Really boosts my confidence a bit, Cept can you try with an obtainable title next time? ^^;;;
there's almost no difference betwen that title and dancing flame weapon
For me it's pretty easy, but my problem is the npc, edan always use evacuation, or eve blocks my skills
This makes me wanna make a TT now.
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what is the reccomended amount of reduced damage? those lightning baruks keep zapping me to death.
You totally missed the point of berauk room lol.(or this add dungeon in general) The monsters and dmg increase makes it very difficult to survive long term so you're only option is to kill them asap. Also I use +7/+8 SD armor and can clear it fine you just need to time skills to avoid their bolts...
Yeah, red will only help you if you are barely unable to outheal the lightning damage. Its better to gun it and try to just kill them before they kill you.
Cool run. But now do it with the game uninstalled or i'm telling my dad
I guess for some people its easy, and for some people its hard
+Kira Đào ....Probably? it's just hard for some people.
Why are you acting so triggered. If some people have trouble with the dungeon whats the problem? You are fr acting like a no life. I can understand if they go around complaining about how hard the dungeon is, so some no lives will get triggered. But if you get pissed from someone saying "I guess for some people its easy" you seriously need to rethink your priorities.
I think it's a little bit stupid if people gets triggered because You say that, anyway You can always use elixirs and potions in that dungeons, it makes it a little bit better (or light element) the dungeon itself it's easy if you go prepared, but some people can make a run in like 10 minutes (like me), and other in 3.
Anyway I can't see the point why people trigger instantly with a commet like yours
+Romii091 I think it's not just by being prepared. My EE got oneshot twice in a run by the NPCs. They just waited for my resurrection then oneshotted me immediately the 2nd time (unexpected long ranged attack).
takes a little longer for melee classes since most of the ones i really play dont have many AoE skills and i get fked cuz im squishy asf... one shots... one shots everywhere
I used a lot of melee skills.
+Brancliff mfw 80% seige
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+Brancliff memes op
Well I use a melee character and main one, and 4 minutes for a run isn't long at all, only thing that taps my nerves an unholy amount of times is Type-H activating Storm Blade 69 million times because to much damage.
Does IS count as melee? /sarcasm
Why don't you move away when the boss was about to use the EMP move?
I figured it out before the video lmao I was DiE and I was getting murdered then I switched to MM and spammed , dodged and used items
people need to GG or go outside to nature lol
some classes do it better than others, like TT spamming siege, CBS sniping everything from 1 spot & AS spamming special actives cause passive
If neither video will convince you, then that's on you. The dungeon objectively is not difficult and the comments are backing me up on that. People should learn to accept that instead of self-victimizing.
yeah it's doable but some classes r just better than others. i find it easier on AS than on NW
.....I tried this dungeon with mostly +8 SD gear (i think glove was +6, and wep +9) and I was trying to beat it for 17 minutes before failing at the 3rd stage
It wasn't really harrrdd, just I don't know how to avoid attacks from the eve/raven stage or the one with lightning...
I can't beat those two stages either.
The lightning is pretty dumb - it isn't telegraphed very well. You sorta just have to whomp them and kill them before they kill you. But with lightning draining your MP, that can be hard to do. And if it isn't one of your first few rooms, it's even worse.
probably from spamming pots right? With invincibility frames and such, except I don't really like spamming pots because I feel like I'm wasting them...
unless its those cheap 2,000ed mana pots. I dont mind those xD
I think the newcomers have hard time is because ive noticed most of them dont have mana necklace or the amount of potions or resources we do. The other day they were like wooo i have 8k red damge and im like why and asked if they had crit or max.... This was from new TT.
Why did I hear "Pain" at 1:49
valak
Technically it was hard in KR from what the GM's said on a livestream before it got nerfed. It's not really hard unless you have anything lower in +8 with bad stats. Or the class in general is just bad.
Do we have a datamine on that nerf or are we juts going on the words of a random GM on a random livestream?
Possibly both.
It wasn't hard in KR since everyone has a +11 or higher. Even without people would still beat it under 6 mins.
Time required =/= Legitimate challenge and difficulty
For most people it is.
People are trying to get the weapon as fast as possible. So what I mean by Time = Difficult is because people are trying to upgrade the weapon. If it takes a long ass time to complete it then players will say, "It's hard to beat."
As for me, Idc.
I'm not talking about the "difficulty" (time) involved in getting the weapon. Heck, forget the weapon exists at all for a second.
The point of this video is to prove that overcoming the dungeon at all is not difficult. None of this "well you have to do it more" nonsense. Just. One victory.
And if I can do it with a +0 weapon that has no sockets, while not using event items or pulling out super armor, there is no reason - *NO REASON* why anyone else can't clear it either.
Unless they cant get in. Which happens to a lot of people..
What were those yellow wisps coming out the back of the cannon?
Experience
Brancliff I don’t think I understand could you explain?
Brancliff how do you obtain it I’m talking about the yellow things that do damage btw.
Its an upraded Elixier from dark portal
RandomGuy thanks for the explanation. How do you get it?
This dungeon never was hard. My friend asked how it was or how hard it is, I simply asked "Can you dodge?" "Yes" he says, "Well there you go" I say. Though I do think the dungeon would do very much without that shaman. As for Type-H, he's nothing more than an annoyance, I do to much damage and he activates Storm Blade like 69,000 times.
And yet there's still people fighting it in the comments
e_e
How much grasping can people possibly do?
Not much tbh it's just tedious having to educate people when some people think they can get away with plus fives or flat out trash sockets
That's why you never try to be reasonable with people in NA who don't like to accept fact. It's why I stopped explaining anything to anyone a really long time ago, and holy shit am I glad I did.
19 tries before it dropped. question is if the cube itself is bank shareable so i can just farm this for my add....
nope the weapon and cube are locked to the char you get it on
well that makes sense....but it also sucks.like they could at least let you dismantle 2 of them so you can get a tradeable cube version for all the runs you'll STILL have to do for the fusion disc. i have 7 characters i play lol
yea lol, but then people would sell them on the board and they'd be too easy to get, i think if they nerfed them to where the raid weapons were better, at least the legendary versions of the raid weapons, and made the void cubes either tradeable or able to be put in the shared bank maybe it would be better, plus the people who worked for the raid weapons would get what they worked so hard for.. just my opinion though lol
EDIT: And no i dont have a raid weapon, but i feel it'd be more fair to the people who did work to get their raid weapons
interesting challenge but this time try +7 armors no sockets
Yeah its not that hard. Its just item burning and annoying XD. But its for the best weapon ingame. And if u got maximize and crit its veeeery easy to kill the monsters there with 1-3skills. Even with heroic armor.
IN VOID ELSWORD WHAT COST A 4TH RESSURECT?
Brancliff's channel is about Nintendo, KoG Games and more. VoidEl is not about Elsword NA at all.
Lmao why is everyone complaining? 😂 Love your videos by the way. I’m a returning player and your guides are very interesting and cool to look at. (Last time I played was 2014)
Lol I even finished the dungeon w/ my "DiE" wearing DragFearSet +8 wep and +7 armor that only have 521 red damge. Heroic Dg is even hurrder, this dg is not Hard it just takes like 4ever b4 u get the wep and gets repititive, and w/ a average type of gear it takes time for the dg to finish and ur gonna do another round? it only gets tiring doing a time consuming dg over and over again(talking about a low lvled gear)
add dg isn't really that hard at all, the only thing that makes it hard the stupidly high dmg of valak and those lighting spamming pricks, if u can stack up hp and red dmg enough to tank them then u can clear this dg with ease, also the boss round is the easiest for me
The dungeon isn't hard unless you're either unlucky, lack I-frames/range/Super Armor/Efficient clearing. Valak is capable of one shots, and the boss does have some stupid attacks (Which are easily telegraphed tho). I'd Imagine GrM's have it a bit rougher, or WS.
Imo, the dungeon isn't hard. *At all.*
All I did was spam skills (barring that I even took out one of my best skills intentionally. Also the couple skill.) Anyone can do that.
You can say "m-m-m-muh TT range", but I also used close-ranged skills, such as magnum shot, mark of commander, and chaos cannon.
Valak can supposedly do one-shots, but I haven't seen it. I think he did 160k to me in a failed recording, but that was also a recording using a +0 weapon, so I'm pretty sure anyone could kill him before he gets that far.
Brancliff Its not hard for you because you're a TT, which is litterally one of the best PvE classes. Not everyone is capable of stuff like that. Not to mention you do have Reaper and Eltrion Accessories.
Yeah, TT does have close range skills, but Carpet Bombing one of the best clearing skills, Dread Chase (While not dealing a lot of damage now), still gives range, fairly good hitstun on enemies for this, Siege, and Commanders Mark is a thing you go in with and can run away from and hit with something else. Chaos Cannon can be used for Range too and gives more defense.
I have litterally taken 3 mil from Valak's Wild Charge, I shit you not. While the defense of enemies is paper, the attack on them can be absurd (Aside from Alterasia tbh)
See, I don't see the difficulty for my main, however, I can see the difficulty for others. Beruak for example is harder for some characters, while easier for others. The issue is you saying any class can do it easy, however, this is false. I have a GrM friend who couldn't get past Beruak for the life of them for 100+ runs with a +9 Heroic Weapon and +7 Heroic Hell Gear.
***** Or skills that hit Multiple enemies
Its not hard for you because you're a TT
Are you people so desperate that you're going to use this as an argument? Does the stretch on your arms feel good, because that sure was a lot of *reaching.*
"M-muh siege shelling!" Oh no, I have an attack that is inexpensive and has a lot of reach. So does every other ranged class in the game!
Not to mention you do have Reaper and Eltrion Accessories.
I wish I turned these off. Not because they help very much (Because they don't), but so that I Wouldn't have gotten this later.
Carpet Bombing one of the best clearing skills
Oh no, I have one good skill!
Dread Chase (While not dealing a lot of damage now), still gives range, fairly good hitstun on enemies for this
I didn't use this skill. ._.
Siege, and Commanders Mark is a thing you go in with and can run away from and hit with something else.
Yes, but MoC is hard to get off. It has no range or hitstun, and if you're hit while using it, the skill itself is canceled.
Chaos Cannon can be used for Range too and gives more defense.
It intentionally angles itself to make it hard to use at long ranges. Though the defense is a valid point.
I have litterally taken 3 mil from Valak's Wild Charge, I shit you not.
... The fuck are you doing to take that long to power him up that much? That tops my high score of damage taken from him by over 12x.
The issue is you saying any class can do it easy, however, this is false.
I'm not saying any class can do it easily. I'm saying *ANYONE* can do it easily. Which is even more strong of a statement. All you have to do is pile on the MP and spam your skills. That's all I did *(WITH A +0 WEAPON WHY IS EVERYONE JUST CASUALLY IGNORING THIS)* and that's all anyone else has to as well.
I have a GrM frie.nd who couldn't get past Beruak for the life of them for 100+ runs with a +9 Heroic Weapon and +7 Heroic Hell Gear.
Have you considered your friend might be... bad? And before you blast me for saying that, while I get that is more of an insult than an argument, you should really think about it. There is a knowledge factor involved as to dodging all of the attacks (unless you, yknow, follow my advice and spam all the skills) and knowing who to go after and when. There's other people in this comments sections with +8 that still say its not difficult. And your friend is one enhancement tier above that *AND* has a heroic set? Which can pile on massive amounts of HP depending on the their heroic rank, btw.
Brancliff I'm not saying Range is bad, I'm saying that's why you're better than a lot of characters since you have so much less of a need to get close. Plus, there's not a lot of setup required for you as a TT to do your thing.
Yeah, I'm sure those extra hits and defense break with swords to do more damage don't help too much.
Well, it IS one of the best clearing skills in the game, again, not criticizing it, I'm saying that's a big factor of why its easier. Does more damage than a lot of clearing skills over time too.
I said it because its an option TT has.
I'm aware of this, its really easy to pull off, for my TT at least in PvE.
I use it for Multiple things, close and long range. Again, my points are options.
Valak is the hardest thing in the dungeon to me, I need to get set up, and if he's the last stage, he's already gotten a few power boosts (My average completion time is 5 minutes, fastest being 4 min 40 seconds), Valak's actives and commands ignore defense 100% coupled with 3 people on my booty, its difficult at times.
That's still not really correct, yeah, ya have to spam skills, but not all skills are the same in terms of damage, overall enemies hit, providing I-frames and such. And maybe the reason why people are ignoring the +0 Thing is due to the enemies having shit defense. The defense of the mobs aren't the issue. Pretty much everything has potential to kill you (Except Alterasia)
They do Heroics just fine, which is way harder than this dungeon. Yeah, they spammed skills, but with Beruak, he'd get zapped by lightning (Which drains 50 MP per hit), multiple times and die, repeatedly. His Rank on his gear is 20+ with an exception being his bottom.
i tried with my BM... Im crying because I can't get any of the NPCs to half their health.... Am I just bad?
Sash RBLX aww...
Friendly Nabor Maybe you just need better Maximize stats. Your base damage is not the best, but with maxi you could do as much damage as Bran with a +0, and also try to increase your add damage too
Imyatin. i thought add damage is for pvp xD but ill try it. Thanks!
Add damage is for pvp though
(Will write better advice at some point @_@)
Is it considered bad if it takes you like 6+ minutes or longer? Or is it because people like to clear it fast or something?
Faiz Faisal time doesn't matter that much.. the only thing is efficiency, cuz you can farm much more with shorter clear time ( for example, in a 6 minute run, you could do 3x 2 minute runs or 6x 1 minute run)
when you can't even enter the dungeon due to your item lvl ;(
LOL SAME
let's cry together in a corner :')
If your item level isn't high enough to enter, you really shouldn't enter in the first place xD While the dungeon isn't hard it's as tough as dungeons come '
But if you REALLY want to push yourself, heroic gear tends to have incredibly high item levels. Just get some of that, enter, and when you get in the dungeon, switch back to your actual equipment
Well, without the item level, we can't even enter, but thanks for the tip :>
the real pain is when you CAN enter but you CANT win. let me cry with you
Lunatic Might -hugs you- I'm sorry mate :c
awaiting comments on infinite siege...
Removing infinite shelling wouldn't matter. Siege 7 > Magnum > Elastic Bomb can be looped. Now sit down.
i'm not trying to be salty, just expecting some salt comments lol
6:33 dang that looks like a pretty dang hard dungeon
Looks can be deceiving.
... No, but really. Oh boo hoo, I used my class' ranged combat. Its not like it would be any different if I fought him close. I'd take some damage, and use some items to heal it off.
my only problem with that dungeon, is the mass damage some mobs do, I agree its pretty easy but every now and then I slip up, and am 1 shotted b/c I succ :c I've done the dungeon a total of once, so I don't have a big opnion on it, but the 1 time I did do it, I hade no chance, I got 1 shotted by the lightening guys like instantly, I don't know their attack pattern so that my fault there, but still. . . kinda unfair to punish noobs like that
Fuck Diceon Mines.
Can you do 4-Y but every siege is We are number one. (Haha bad joke, u thought it was... a cripple thing, haha.)
Still got carried by Apple, though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And yes, I also saw the Asura's video. It seems the true hardness of this dungeon lies in its justification.
Please tell me you're joking.
In the first line, yes.
Thank you.
I think this video alone should stand on itself, but according to the reception I've been getting, it doesn't. I don't really understand that, but I link the Asura video a lot for two reasons.
1. It's the same argument as me but even pushed more to the extreme
2. You cant say "m-m-m-m-muh TT" or "m-m-m-muh carpet bombing" with her.
From what little I understand about Ara's gameplay, you can still argue about Asura being overpowered in the same way, so you don't gain too much from that (except maybe that Ara mains are satisfied). But calling you out for your classes aside, even if you did this with no equipment and a class that would normally be considered weak, people would try to find an excuse, maybe it's even "yeah, but this class excels at Void dungeon", no matter how stupid such a claim would be. First look for gear, then class, then items, then maybe something else, I'm not too sure about the order afterwards. Similar excuses are made whenever someone finds something easy that another finds hard, I've seen that way too often years before this dungeon.
As already pointed out, the true hardness of this dungeon lies in its justification, since we all know that it's nothing more than a cash grab. Sure, traditional KoG game design patterns like ludicrous amounts of HP or damage make up some nice fake difficulty, which one can interpret as true difficulty with enough fantasy, but even if it were, that is hardly enough to outweigh 15 stage effects and 5 enhancement effects, let alone the fact, that this can't possibly fit anywhere into the lore, not even the largest plot hole is big enough for Pepsiman. Still, since people want to be OP themselves and don't like to be called out for grinding the most obnoxious weapon to this day in order to achieve their goal, they come up with stupid reasons to defend their noble ambitions, and hardness is one of them. One could lay out potential arguments of Void supporters - there were countless threads in anticipation of its advent, each filled with ridiculous claims - in a "This is how you're stupid" special, but even then people would fail to recognize that.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS COMMENT.
I initially thought you were against the video and its ideas but you actually make some very good points. I'd pin this if I could pin the sub-comment of a comments thread.
You've exercised your brain today friendo
where is the link
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tsk... those berauks are other literal bane of my existence there.... yea the dungeon I can definitely say isn't impossible... but I still haven't even gotten to the boss yet, even with the res stones...
SSS LK in PVP every season, but I guess I just suck in PvE lol
^Got any international pvp tournament replays to fall back on as a source? >3>
any tips for this dungeon as CrA?
Read the recent rebalance patch notes and cry because they weren't nice to Elesis
On a serious note... CA should have it pretty easy. Of course, "muh healing" is a factor here, but in addition to that, her special actives generally have long reach or long invincibility frames. I can't say anything that applies to her specifically, but two things that are often-slept on in general:
Everything apart from the boss can be petrified and is also affected by status effects - using dark orbs for the Aging debuff can help you survive
ok thank you very much :D
nice. you make great videos, i m jus starting elsword and your video helps alot. ignore the haters they r just jealous of your chars.
dude ur a pro & ur also rly cool! Don't let those stupid hate comments bring u down!
Can you try DE with normal enhancement (maybe + 8)?
You want me to use... a better weapon.
I mean you can use a better weapon, but TT is easier to handle this dungeon. At least better than the three ADD classes
I'm just baffled. I've crippled myself *so much* in the making of this video that people's idea of a challenge is to use a *better weapon.*
well, then try DE with +0 as you wish. Honestly saying, no offense, I can learn nothing from your video. What you do is keep distance and press xxxx loop.
That's pretty silly, considering siege takes a back seat to my plethora of *close ranged skills*.
I had better stats then you on my EE. I went in for the first time ever somewhat optimistic.
The first room i went to there was 3 big guys who didn't need to aim super armor status the whole time. Wouldn't budge an inch while they all 3 shot lightning at me tracking me down stunning me making me lose health so quick you couldn't count to 5 before i died.
All they did was stand there. The lightning tracked you so there was no possible way for me to avoid it. I was optimistic at first. But shit. This dungeon is hard. Say what you want. But i had a good weapon and good gear. on a broken character. Spamming didn't get me much of anywhere since the whole time i had to try and heal or i'd just get stunned over and over.
I'm not sure if i just somehow got the worst room on my first try or if they changed it since this video. But that. was bull shit lol.
Room order is random except for the boss, you just suck. Berauk room you need to time your i-frame skills correctly so you damage them while avoiding the lightning spam, the rest is all about learning patterns.
Thx for the encouraging words.
man this dungeon is like El tree but hurdurrrrrrr
They're nothing alike
For Tree of El you have to think about what attacks and skills you use and when in order to prevent knockdowns and to clear the dungeon in a simple and time-efficient manner
In this dungeon you dont have to think at all
seriously too easy for a dungeon to get the best weap
they could at least bring back the old raids like drabaki instead of this though
Hi. Great run mate. Would you be willing to accept a challenge? I'd like to see you try this XD. Do this run using a DC or IP. With a +8 or lesser weapon. No pets. And only 3 quick slots.
I'm not going to further cripple myself to try to appease some dumb
ccommentors who are too stubborn to see the point of the video anyway. If I was, I could end up making video after video after video of crippling myself further and further as the comments section continues to grasp more and more.
Okey okey, sorry. I didn't mean anything bad when I wrote it.
You're okay.
The rest of this comments section, is not okay.
by today latest patch
is this dungeon still hard?
i dunno myself,i really asking that. not trying to mock you or smt
Its easier than it used to be, so it should be fine. It's very rare that Elsword gets patches that make the game overall harder
i freakin hate that edan and valak stage. dat freakin damage is so pain, and the damn 3 wizards or lizards? they depletes my freakin mana . damn
well ure using TT so I say ure in a bit of advantage since it has so many of the spammage of skills that adds up to your total damage... I also do not say that this is hard too, its just overwhelming if u don't have the right things.... I guess the title u choose to use also adds up to the fact on how it can help you on ur Runs....
But
fucking
+0 weapon
IamThe V Rinzlr seriously? now his character choice is a problem?
Disbounded x imagine a CR doing it with no wep
i tough you hated Void type and was not getting one !
So I just need to get a shitton of usable items and I can live
It is not hard, just IRRITATING...
It is. It took me 15 minutes to clear one lol