Stellan and Serkis really rolled out an acting masterclass in this. Everyone is good. Mon Mothmas micro expressions at the end of her scene was just amazing.
There should have been acting nominations for Skarsgard and Serkis. The acting in this show has one looking at Star Wars being elevated even more. The rebellion looks different knowing what people have sacrificed in the beginning. Wow just wow.
@@jmhaces The line was brilliant - so simple that most writers wouldn't think (or dare) to use it - but what really sold it was that the moment wasn't somber or melodramatic. They didn't try too hard to sell us that this was a big sad moment, they didn't lower the music and slowly zoom in on him or Cassian. Assuming that this was Kino's death, it's one of the most real and human death scenes I've seen in a long time - that hint of laughter in his voice is something most actors wouldn't think to bring to that moment but it all just worked brilliantly.
@@fadedjem Yeah, that slight touch of mirth in his voice when he says the line, that got to me especially bad, largely because of how realistic and human it was.
I'm pretty sure the prisoner who escaped with Andor at the end is Ruescott Melshi a character who also appeared in Rogue One as a Rebel Sergeant who was apart of the team sent to Scarif.
"And what do you sacrifice?" "Calm. Kindness, kinship. Love. I've given up all chance at inner peace. I've made my mind a sunless place. I share my dreams with ghosts. I wake up every day to an equation I wrote 15 years ago from which there's only one conclusion; I'm damned for what I do. My anger, my ego, my unwillingness to yield, my...my eagerness to fight, they've set me on a path from which there is no escape. I yearned to be a savior against injustice without contemplating the cost and by the time I looked down, there was no longer any ground beneath my feet. What is my...what is my sacrifice? I'm condemned to use the tools of my enemy, to defeat them. I burn my decency for someone else's future. I burn my life to make a sunrise that I know I'll never see. And the ego that started this fight will never have a mirror or an audience or the light of gratitude. So what do I sacrifice? Everything!"
I mean, of course he didn't make it out. He is another Nemix, another K2, his job is to say "climb" to others who then will get to enjoy a "sunrise I know I'll never see". Its a whole Moses leading the Israelites to the Promised Land but not being allowed to live to see it. And which ultimately is supposed to reflect Andor's own fate, whose final act for the rebellion is to make a climb we just watched a younger and uninjured and extremely athletic Jyn Erso make with the greatest of difficulty, which he must now make seriously injured and barely conscious, to save Jyn so she can finish transmitting the Death Star intel. The Death Star Kino and Andor helped build. The whole story in Andor is constantly hitting on the same notes we saw in Rogue One about how many and how much needs to be sacrificed to arrive at the point where a single set of torpedos from one Rebel ship can push half the galaxy into Rebellion, which leads to a point where, ironically, just as Luthen saves what's left of his decency by trusting Andor and not shooting him and Andor saves what is left of his by not shooting Galen Erso, Luke effectively ends the Empire by pressing one single button - the deactivation switch of his lightsaber.
Which, as far as Lucas making allusions to his big intellectual hero Joseph Campbell, is pretty unsubtle. "The tyrant is proud, and therein resides his doom. He is proud because he thinks of his strength as his own; thus he is in the clown role, as a mistaker of shadow for substance; it is his destiny to be tricked. The mythological hero, reappearing from the darkness that is the source of the shapes of day, brings a knowledge of the secret of the tyrant’s doom. With a gesture as simple as the pressing of a button, he annihilates the impressive configuration.”
"I'd rather die trying to take them down than die giving them what they want." My boy Cassian talked the talk and walked the walk all the way to the beaches of Scarif. Also, Luthen is terrifyingly ruthless.
I'm sure many will disagree but I saw a kind of empty poetry in those words. Like, your reason for wanting to be free should only in the very end be about 'giving them what they want', but maybe it says something about oppression and revolution that engendering the will to fight takes a kind of hatred to do what is necessary? I thought the writers chose this kind of empty language for some reason I'm sure we'll hear about some day.
I love the Mandalorian but this has now become my favorite Star Wars show. It's top 10 in my favorite TV shows in general for sure. Every aspect of its production oozes quality.
KK fought against Favreau and the Mandalorian, tried to get him fired and gave him a restrictive budget and she has spit in the faces of SW fans for so long that the fans are not tuning in. Imagine if she had given Jon the same kind of budget and got out of his way like she did for Tony, what would have season 1 of Mando been like. This show was given a budget more expensive than Mando, BoBF, and OWK combined and it's ironic that a short series of animation like The Tales of the Jedi produced a better showing than Andor. Just think about it, this is an excellent spy/drama thriller moved by dialogue, a bit too slow but still compelling and a show runner who doesn't like SW and what if a show runner like Jon was given the same kind of support and money? Since KK has spent so much time shitting on SW fans they're not tuning in to watch this show!
@@jakecook2375 Stop praising John and put all the blame on Kennedy. He is a terrible writer. He wrote Lion Ling 2019 and Book of Boba Fett. Plot in Mandalorian is just pure nonsense. Mando takes jetpack off despite Grogu is safe in force field, then just forgets his jetpack on the ground for the whole episode and runs to hill by legs, leaves his ship unlocked and opened, goes to fight stormtroopers instead of staying on the hill and protecting Grogu, stormtroopers are so useless they don't shoot to Boba while he beats them with a club, can't step away from a rolling boulder, don't use cannons on their ships, don't shoot at Fennec when they surround her, they can hit only armoured parts of Mandalorian...Why did Moff Gideon send them at all instead of just blasting both ships and sending Dark Troopers? Etc. They couldn't even make farewell to Grogu permanent and returned him in spinoff.
The Mandalorian was 15x better than so much before it that I think some people kind of accepted that we'd hit the peak. But never underestimate the rare chance that something like Andor might also be coming. I love both shows but without Andor the hero stories seem a bit hollow.
@@Biomirth Thank you Thank you. Many people don't or either forget KK tried to get Favreau fired. Then when that didn't happen she made sure he was given a smaller budget, fought him on using cameos in Mando, look at s1 vs s2, and a restrictive time frame for him, so he used the Volume more than sets. Unlike Mando, Andor is extremely expensive, Tony has complete autonomy and KK has completely backed him. However, Mando is a much, much and much better show than Andor. Andor is an excellent dialogue and acting driven spy, drama and suspense type of show, however, KK has spit on the faces and shitted on SW fans for so long that they're not tuning in and as a consequence Disney is going to lose money out their asses, GOOD.
I also got really emotional during Serkis's speech and I wasn't exactly sure why at the moment but I think it's because what this show does better than almost any other show, hell, any other media I've seen is that it really makes you feel that cathartic release of the oppressed rising up against their oppressors. Almost every story is ultimately an "underdog story" but this isn't just some plucky hero fighting scary bad guys from space or the nerdy protagonist standing up to the jocks. What Andor did brilliantly by taking its time and building the world and story over these mini-arcs is truly showing just how oppressive the totalitarian Empire really is. It's not just this vague concept like it usually was of "Empire bad." They're showing concrete examples of how brutal they are with the torture scenes, the prison conditions, even the scene of the Shoretrooper arresting Andor was lowkey giving me crazy anxiety and panic, there was just something so chilling in its banalness of how a person going on a power trip in an authority figure can completely ruin someone's life just because they feel like it. I think that's why we got so emotional during Andy's speech. Because it felt like a wave of emotion, a cathartic release, to hear one of the downtrodden say, "No longer. We will not be pushed down anymore." Andor is an amazing show. An amazing Star Wars show, but even beyond that, just an amazing show period. I really think it stands up there already with some of the greats and hope that more people discover the show as time goes on.
This episode was AMAZING. Andy Serkis absolutely brought it home, he had me teary-eyed too. And THAT final scene with Luthen was incredible too. The acting in this show is superb
The fact that Kino knew it was the end of the line for him, probably feeling slightly detached until he found guidance in Cassian's words and resolve in repeating them during that speach... Its just such heartbreakingly solfull writing of his character - and we wouldnt have that had he survived :(
Not only was this one of the best episodes of Star Wars ever, I think it is one of the best tv episodes I've seen in general. The acting in this is absolutely stellar - Andy especially.
It was a great success to involve Diego, not only as an actor, but in the development of the entire concept and story as an executive producer. Anyone who knows Luna's work knows that they will always find something authentic and profound. He agreed to return to the character after Rogue One because he wanted to tell Andor's story as it should be, a grown-up story of a rebel movement navigating between light and dark.
This is my favorite Star Wars show and this episode in particular was just epic. We got Andy Serkis giving his fantastic speech to get the prisoners to revolt, and that would have been enough. But then we get an even more epic speech by Stelan Skarsgard that completely explains Luthen's character. Just fucking incredible. I know they probably won't get them but this show deserves so many Emmys.
This is the best of Disney+ Star Wars series. I absolutely love the Andor series. To me, this absolutely beats the sequel trilogy and anything else done by Disney except for the mandalorian. I honestly think that this is steps above the mandalorian even though I love both of them.
This show continues to deliver, and keeps reminding me of just how damn good Star Wars can be when handled right. Seeing you so invested in it is wonderful is a testament to the excellent job they've done with it, and thank you for sharing this.
This episode was so powerful in terms of delivery and exposition that has been building throughout the show. It's going to become crazier in the next two episodes. This show should receive recognition as much as the Mandalorian has.
I actually quite liked those two films and I absolutely agree, Serkis was wasted in the sequel trilogy. I'm really glad he got another chance with this franchise, he did a phenomenal job here
@@christianwise637 I actually quite liked the first two sequel movies AND think they made good use of Snoke exactly the way they needed him to, given the context of moving away from and breaking down the idea of singular larger-than-life evil figures as much as possible. Andy Serkis also had a lot of input on how to portray Snoke and absolutely knew what he was doing. And it's great to see Andy Serkis nail another role.
Andy Serkis's escape speech was some Aaron Sorkin-level writing. I was reminded in a way of Michael Douglas's speech at the end of "The American President". The power of the spoken word...
when you deal with gangsters who are rich enough to not care about money, favors and providing respectability to them or their children or their businesses are the only currency left.
I liked how real it was, like he was only just thinking of it now. He knows the truth of what he's suffered, but how to convey it to someone who has to entertain a middle ground? The writing was perfect in it's authenticity, a first draft, but delivered with honesty. Compelling and fresh, no polish or derring-do shennanigans.
Luthen's monologue has a lot of similarities to the Operative's monologue to Mal about doing what is necessary to create a future that he cannot ever take part in due to the moral damage those actions will require. Interesting here to see it from the "hero" rather than the "villain". Great scenes both.
Apparently Lenin stopped listening to classical music, which he really loved, because it softened his heart too much for the tasks of revolution. Luthen's speech really reminded me of that, cutting parts of yourself away to become a sharper spear against the enemy.
This show is so good. The writing the production and the acting, WOW! You really feel the sacrifice of the Rebels. A feeling you didn’t quite buy into in the original trilogy. You just accepted that the Empire was evil. Now you see why, they were evil.
Great reaction. Another excellent episode! I would like to think that this is not the last from Kino Loy. Andy Serkis hit this out of the ballpark. That speech from Luthen? Goddamn, Stellan Skaarsgard is such a brilliant actor. What a moving, inspiring monologue. Phenomenal acting, writing, and storytelling. Wow. I freaking love this show. I FREAKING LOVE "STAR WARS: ANDOR"!!!
I love how you actively participate with the growing tension and your actions relate your true feelings of the scene being shown. That’s what makes watching you interesting. Season 2 maybe couple of years off and I would certainly would love to watch an episode or 2 with you. That would be exciting .. good luck with your views and comments - love them
He's been doing it for 15 years the empire has been in power .. he says That during the elevator meeting , with Ezra Bridger we remember that date in starwars rebels ...we know whos 15 years old at this time Luke,Ezra , And princess Leia Pretty interesting to flesh out more what was happening during that time.. Basically, the shows are on parallel paths ..pretty cool
Andy Serkis and Stellan Skarsgaard BDE contest What a fucking episode This show’s theme is “Why rebel?” Last week, the answer was fascism This week, the answer is “Luthen and Kino told us to”
Brilliant brilliant writing and what performances. The rebel informer it is completely faithful to the writing watch back and you’ll see how the camera lingers on him, he balances giving good feedback against his spy work being just slightly underwhelming yet also providing enough value that they can’t suspect
Maybe it's just me, but the moment where all the prisoners realised the floors weren't working and then proceeded to attack the guards reminded me so much of the scene at the start of Snowpiercer where they discover the guards have no bullets
All that slow burn and waiting week after week has been paid off. remarkable episode, the star wars at its best. good point about loneliness and frustration. I kind of feel the same with this Andor show. My star wars fans dont watch it so I dont have anyone to discuss about it. Thankfully there are people like Sesska who are here to put some sense to everything. so much appreciated
Some people are floating around the idea that Luthen is a former Jedi, which to me completely misses the point! This show is devoted to showing the everyday, human heroes and villains, no one with special powers, and that speech talks about the price real people have to pay to have any kind of success against the powers that be! It can't and should not be only about the Jedi and The Force! But I will say Luthen can wear a cape like no one's business!! LOL!!
Regarding sacrifice and means justifying ends: It may sound really creepy but I think everyone should think about whether or not they'd sacrifice their loved ones 'for the greater good' (or however one wants to frame that). Not because I think people should or should not, but because the exercise of thinking about it prepares you for difficult decisions and gives you insight into what you really value. Then, when the hammer falls, you'll know just what to do, rather than having indecision ruin either 'good' outcome.
Or just as poignant, letting a friend die to save a handful of strangers. Those are the kind of decisions police, soldiers, firemen etc. have to make often. You really don't know what kind of person you are till you've had to make a choice like that.
Great analysis at the end after the reaction about loneliness. I usually skip that part in reactions. Most TH-camrs have a hard time breaking down the emotions in Andor. You articulated it very well.
Personally, I get a lot of this arc of the series for being South American. Because of my age I did not live it, but fascist dictatorships are very much in the culture of the region as well as the struggle that led us to free ourselves (or try) from them.
That Star Wars content created just praised Andor and gave it 9 out of 10.. he was the main Star Wars fan base pushing don’t watch Andor..and his fan in his comments pushing that’s. Now since he gave this episode 10 high praise, now his fans in his comments are saying they like now. He is the top Star Wars content creators on TH-cam.. now you will see people loving Andor now
What a stupid thing to do, trying to get people not to watch it 🙄 couldn’t he just let people watch what they want to watch. Can’t really be a proper fan if he was trying to derail a show of the same universe he’s apparently a ‘fan’ of.
I haven't watched you since Mando. I'm sorry to just get back now. I'll finish this out with you. 👏🏼👏🏼 (Full Alerts, and that last speech by Skarsgård was epic btw)
The Mandalorian is my show i really doubted this Andor show but wow changed my mind the acting you feel the emotion in all these characters . The speeches of Andy Serkis and Stellan Skarsgard so good . Look forward to two part finally
" I yearned to be a savior against injustice without contemplating the cost and by the time I looked down there was no longer any ground beneath my feet." -- Luthen Rael. Enough said.
I first noticed you on a compilation of Mando when Luke showed up and you said "ok settle down everybody". I subscribed to your channel because I saw the passion and logic which is a rare combination of traits in anyone. Andor is one of greediest shows on TV period I have seen in awhile, even Game of Thrones didn't have the anxiety level of this show. The one thing that KK/Disney did was to give Tony Gilroy complete support to tell the story and regardless of the cost of production. Tony has already said season 2 will be over the top (it will be the 4 years leading up to Rogue One) because it will do 3 episodic arcs for each year. Seeska love your fire and emotional honesty while doing your reactions.
I don't comment on videos often but I appreciate you giving credit to the actor playing Lonnie because I feel his performance is going unnoticed or being underrated and undercut by the monologue Skarsgard gave. Lonnie and his context make the whole scene hit harder in my mind. 10/10 performances ALL around
What an embarrassment of riches. This was an amazing episode amongst the season of amazing episodes. I can't wait for the next two episodes. Amazing reaction as always!
I am loving this show. The writing and acting is powerful. I agree big-time that a major theme of this episode is the nature of difficult decisions to fight or to sacrifice your life or your principles for a cause. My only quibble is that we really have not seen enough of Mon Mothma's daughter or know enough about their relationship or even the quality of Mon Mothma's marriage. But I can still empathize with Mothma's steely attempt to protect her daughter. I also get the feeling that Mothma wants to protect her social position and not be judged for hanging around with criminals, even though there is a slight hint that her husband may have done business with the bad guy. I am enjoying this show so much that I want to see more of the world and societies we are seeing.
Wild speculation time. At the beggining of this arc Incel Carn told girlboss fachist Merro that he could recognise Axis' (Luthen's) voice if he heard it. When Luthens mole suggested inspecting the ship, Deadra very quickly left the room. I think she could have, and this is just speculation, planted a bug on something he took out of the building with him. Perhaps she got a recording of Luthen's voice when they met face to face. If she shows that recording to everyones least favorite wanna be evil villian, that could lead to Luthens downfall much faster than anticipated.
Well, Carn is gonna throw a huge wrench in that plan by jumping town and heading to Ferrix on his own. He's gonna get himself in huge trouble and fuck up whatever Dedra and the ISB are doing.
Amen to everything you said afterwards. Yes, I can understand people are different and like different things, but when "fans" say they don't like this, it shows how badly they've been programmed by a Star Wars history of thin dialogue, basic characters, clear "heroes" and "bad" guys, extremely linear story-telling... I could go on and on. I'm not saying it's all bad for those reasons- I love the original series for what it was, prequels not so much, the animated shows are fun in a certain way, I love The Mandalorian for a popcorn-action show (the story isn't horrible either), and boba fett and Kenobi imho were extremely disappointing and non-sensical a lot of the time. That being said, this show and Rogue One are BY FAR the best written, acted, and filmed cinema of Disney-era Star Wars. I feel sorry for those who have become so used to the previous stuff I mentioned that they confuse what they like with "quality".
"I need all the heroes I can get." is a nice line, since while morally grey characters like him help get the rebellion going, it's heroes like Luke, Leia, Han, Chewy, Lando, C2P0, R2-D2, Obi Wan, Yoda, Mon Mothma, her general, Akbar, Wedge, Poe's parents, Ashoka, the Ghost crew, etc. who will win the day in the end.
As much as so many people keep whining about how slow this show is (which is weird as every episode has been riveting through the writing and performances) every episode is necessary to build up to the arc finale so that the events show layers of meaning and emotional investment. This show is phenomenal but I did find myself yelling grab the boots! And shoot up the control panels.
I know he ran off with Melshi at the end but they can’t have them both forming too close of a bond. As they’re hardly all over each other in rogue one. They barely interact so I’m interested in how friendly they’re going to get.
They ended up in different branches of the rebellion military. Andor a spy, Melshi a spec force sergeant. Chances being they didn’t have much time to bond. And we didn’t really need to explore any friendships between them
@@martinjrgensen8234 they didn’t explore any friendship with them because they didn’t know in 7 years time they’d put Melshi in a spin off prequel. So just hope they don’t have them bond that much in Andor
The filming locations across the UK are stunning and the Pinewood Studios sets are just epic. But this, to me, is like the Deep Space Nine of Star Wars. Unlike a lot of new sci-fi shows (including Star Trek) this shows the dark side (of the empire) but also shows hope. The dialogue is better it feels written by grown-ups and not millennials that throw in modern slang and well-worn tropes just to be cool. It is true to the Star Wars universe but also its own thing.
Nah. Andors numbers are way way better than were reported. They made a mistake and admitted to it. But now that that data is fouled up, they don't really know how well it's been doing. Have to wait and see, but they knew its doing a lot better than they thought.
Surely you'd jump anyway and hope Cassian/Keef or one of the others would help you in the water. It'll be a shame if that's the last of Andy Serkis in the series... unless we see him being re-captured and prepared for Operation Snoke 😉
3:40 How many dads clenched their jaws, and their fists, and then grabbed a bat, pointed it at their screens, and said, “You mention my daughter again, and it’ll be the last thing you ever say in this lifetime!”?
What I hear most from people who don't like Andor, is that it's boring and dull. I respect everyone's opinion but if you think THIS was boring or dull you have to get your head examined.
I think the people who say it's boring and dull expected lightsabers and flashy starship battles, just because it has the Star Wars name attached to it, and when they didn't get that, instead of finding out what the show is about, they just tuned out
These 3 episodes I kept thinking man this is basically the Stanford prison experiment right? Like that was basically a test on how easily power would corrupt people to prove how easy and a nice person could turn into a nazi basically. Like those guards hiding I was thinking they are just doing their job... Though their job has them in this position of power and at the same time being so out numbered makes it so they are crapping themselves every day that something might go wrong. Kinda like how cops panic and shoot people out of fear because apparently our police training is insanely lacking... Then again how hard is it to train someone to resist the natural urges especially when your job is dealing with potential life or death situations daily.
I say this partly in jest, but in a universe where a 10 year old can blow up a battle cruiser and a 20 year old can destroy a Death Star, having a 50 year old who can't swim is almost unbelievable XD
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Stellan and Serkis really rolled out an acting masterclass in this. Everyone is good. Mon Mothmas micro expressions at the end of her scene was just amazing.
They have made a great show... something exceptional.
Stellan Skarsgård Skandinavisk skatt och gåva till världen 😉
There should have been acting nominations for Skarsgard and Serkis. The acting in this show has one looking at Star Wars being elevated even more. The rebellion looks different knowing what people have sacrificed in the beginning. Wow just wow.
I tell you I was not prepared for how much Andy Serkis made me cry in this episode. Lord almighty, did he deliver a magnificent performance.
That line at the end about how he couldn't swim was a stroke of genius. My god, the writing and acting in this show.
@@jmhaces The line was brilliant - so simple that most writers wouldn't think (or dare) to use it - but what really sold it was that the moment wasn't somber or melodramatic. They didn't try too hard to sell us that this was a big sad moment, they didn't lower the music and slowly zoom in on him or Cassian. Assuming that this was Kino's death, it's one of the most real and human death scenes I've seen in a long time - that hint of laughter in his voice is something most actors wouldn't think to bring to that moment but it all just worked brilliantly.
What about Stellan Skarsgard?
@@EricDKaufman He's been brilliant in this show, as well.
@@fadedjem Yeah, that slight touch of mirth in his voice when he says the line, that got to me especially bad, largely because of how realistic and human it was.
Having the Rebel spy in the ISB be someone we hardly noticed is perfect as what good spies are people who blend into the background.
I'm pretty sure the prisoner who escaped with Andor at the end is Ruescott Melshi a character who also appeared in Rogue One as a Rebel Sergeant who was apart of the team sent to Scarif.
he is
Yep, that's him alright.
"And what do you sacrifice?"
"Calm.
Kindness, kinship.
Love.
I've given up all chance at inner peace.
I've made my mind a sunless place.
I share my dreams with ghosts.
I wake up every day to an equation I wrote 15 years ago from which there's only one conclusion; I'm damned for what I do.
My anger, my ego, my unwillingness to yield, my...my eagerness to fight, they've set me on a path from which there is no escape.
I yearned to be a savior against injustice without contemplating the cost and by the time I looked down, there was no longer any ground beneath my feet.
What is my...what is my sacrifice?
I'm condemned to use the tools of my enemy, to defeat them.
I burn my decency for someone else's future.
I burn my life to make a sunrise that I know I'll never see.
And the ego that started this fight will never have a mirror or an audience or the light of gratitude.
So what do I sacrifice?
Everything!"
I would have laughed if Luthen asked Lonnie, "Got another stupid question?!"
Mon Mothma has been slaying every outfit she wears. Never apologize for commenting on this fact.
She's up there with Chrisjen Avasarala in the Expanse.
The icy glare she gave Davo Sculdun was quite the slaying look.
"I CAN'T SWIM!" that line broke my heart. I so hope he made it out.
I mean, of course he didn't make it out. He is another Nemix, another K2, his job is to say "climb" to others who then will get to enjoy a "sunrise I know I'll never see". Its a whole Moses leading the Israelites to the Promised Land but not being allowed to live to see it. And which ultimately is supposed to reflect Andor's own fate, whose final act for the rebellion is to make a climb we just watched a younger and uninjured and extremely athletic Jyn Erso make with the greatest of difficulty, which he must now make seriously injured and barely conscious, to save Jyn so she can finish transmitting the Death Star intel. The Death Star Kino and Andor helped build. The whole story in Andor is constantly hitting on the same notes we saw in Rogue One about how many and how much needs to be sacrificed to arrive at the point where a single set of torpedos from one Rebel ship can push half the galaxy into Rebellion, which leads to a point where, ironically, just as Luthen saves what's left of his decency by trusting Andor and not shooting him and Andor saves what is left of his by not shooting Galen Erso, Luke effectively ends the Empire by pressing one single button - the deactivation switch of his lightsaber.
Which, as far as Lucas making allusions to his big intellectual hero Joseph Campbell, is pretty unsubtle. "The tyrant is proud, and therein resides his doom. He is proud because he thinks of his strength as his own; thus he is in the clown role, as a mistaker of shadow for substance; it is his destiny to be tricked. The mythological hero, reappearing from the darkness that is the source of the shapes of day, brings a knowledge of the secret of the tyrant’s doom. With a gesture as simple as the pressing of a button, he annihilates the impressive configuration.”
Rumor mill says Serkis will make an appearance in season 2. Perhaps we haven't seen the last of Mr. Loy.
"I'd rather die trying to take them down than die giving them what they want." My boy Cassian talked the talk and walked the walk all the way to the beaches of Scarif.
Also, Luthen is terrifyingly ruthless.
"What have I sacrificed? EVERYTHING!"
"What did it cost?"
"Everything."
I'm sure many will disagree but I saw a kind of empty poetry in those words. Like, your reason for wanting to be free should only in the very end be about 'giving them what they want', but maybe it says something about oppression and revolution that engendering the will to fight takes a kind of hatred to do what is necessary? I thought the writers chose this kind of empty language for some reason I'm sure we'll hear about some day.
I love the Mandalorian but this has now become my favorite Star Wars show. It's top 10 in my favorite TV shows in general for sure. Every aspect of its production oozes quality.
Yeah. For me it's the bear tv show since Breaking Bad.
KK fought against Favreau and the Mandalorian, tried to get him fired and gave him a restrictive budget and she has spit in the faces of SW fans for so long that the fans are not tuning in. Imagine if she had given Jon the same kind of budget and got out of his way like she did for Tony, what would have season 1 of Mando been like. This show was given a budget more expensive than Mando, BoBF, and OWK combined and it's ironic that a short series of animation like The Tales of the Jedi produced a better showing than Andor. Just think about it, this is an excellent spy/drama thriller moved by dialogue, a bit too slow but still compelling and a show runner who doesn't like SW and what if a show runner like Jon was given the same kind of support and money? Since KK has spent so much time shitting on SW fans they're not tuning in to watch this show!
@@jakecook2375 Stop praising John and put all the blame on Kennedy. He is a terrible writer. He wrote Lion Ling 2019 and Book of Boba Fett. Plot in Mandalorian is just pure nonsense. Mando takes jetpack off despite Grogu is safe in force field, then just forgets his jetpack on the ground for the whole episode and runs to hill by legs, leaves his ship unlocked and opened, goes to fight stormtroopers instead of staying on the hill and protecting Grogu, stormtroopers are so useless they don't shoot to Boba while he beats them with a club, can't step away from a rolling boulder, don't use cannons on their ships, don't shoot at Fennec when they surround her, they can hit only armoured parts of Mandalorian...Why did Moff Gideon send them at all instead of just blasting both ships and sending Dark Troopers? Etc. They couldn't even make farewell to Grogu permanent and returned him in spinoff.
The Mandalorian was 15x better than so much before it that I think some people kind of accepted that we'd hit the peak. But never underestimate the rare chance that something like Andor might also be coming. I love both shows but without Andor the hero stories seem a bit hollow.
@@Biomirth Thank you Thank you. Many people don't or either forget KK tried to get Favreau fired. Then when that didn't happen she made sure he was given a smaller budget, fought him on using cameos in Mando, look at s1 vs s2, and a restrictive time frame for him, so he used the Volume more than sets. Unlike Mando, Andor is extremely expensive, Tony has complete autonomy and KK has completely backed him. However, Mando is a much, much and much better show than Andor. Andor is an excellent dialogue and acting driven spy, drama and suspense type of show, however, KK has spit on the faces and shitted on SW fans for so long that they're not tuning in and as a consequence Disney is going to lose money out their asses, GOOD.
I also got really emotional during Serkis's speech and I wasn't exactly sure why at the moment but I think it's because what this show does better than almost any other show, hell, any other media I've seen is that it really makes you feel that cathartic release of the oppressed rising up against their oppressors. Almost every story is ultimately an "underdog story" but this isn't just some plucky hero fighting scary bad guys from space or the nerdy protagonist standing up to the jocks. What Andor did brilliantly by taking its time and building the world and story over these mini-arcs is truly showing just how oppressive the totalitarian Empire really is. It's not just this vague concept like it usually was of "Empire bad." They're showing concrete examples of how brutal they are with the torture scenes, the prison conditions, even the scene of the Shoretrooper arresting Andor was lowkey giving me crazy anxiety and panic, there was just something so chilling in its banalness of how a person going on a power trip in an authority figure can completely ruin someone's life just because they feel like it. I think that's why we got so emotional during Andy's speech. Because it felt like a wave of emotion, a cathartic release, to hear one of the downtrodden say, "No longer. We will not be pushed down anymore."
Andor is an amazing show. An amazing Star Wars show, but even beyond that, just an amazing show period. I really think it stands up there already with some of the greats and hope that more people discover the show as time goes on.
I love this
This show just keeps getting better. The writing? Wow!
This episode was AMAZING. Andy Serkis absolutely brought it home, he had me teary-eyed too. And THAT final scene with Luthen was incredible too. The acting in this show is superb
The fact that Kino knew it was the end of the line for him, probably feeling slightly detached until he found guidance in Cassian's words and resolve in repeating them during that speach... Its just such heartbreakingly solfull writing of his character - and we wouldnt have that had he survived :(
Your reaction is so genuine, I love it. Also Andor is a damn good show.
Luthen’s speech on Sacrifice is on a level with Peter Capaldi’s 12th Doctor’s War speech.
I think I was having heart palpitations watching this episode!
Just saying, you could TOTALLY do a GREAT Mon Mothma Cosplay! How is her hair always so PERFECT?!?
No she wouldn't.
@@Сайтамен Dude, harsh! Sesska is perfectly lovely, and could totally bring off Mon Mothma cosplay.
Not only was this one of the best episodes of Star Wars ever, I think it is one of the best tv episodes I've seen in general. The acting in this is absolutely stellar - Andy especially.
It was a great success to involve Diego, not only as an actor, but in the development of the entire concept and story as an executive producer. Anyone who knows Luna's work knows that they will always find something authentic and profound. He agreed to return to the character after Rogue One because he wanted to tell Andor's story as it should be, a grown-up story of a rebel movement navigating between light and dark.
This show give a totally new meaning to the phrase "it's not that simple."
I don’t know if I’ve ever felt the stakes like this with Star Wars ever. It feels so real, it’s scary
This show is the kind of SW we all wanted to see for a long time, especially for me as an adult. We need more of this!
This is my favorite Star Wars show and this episode in particular was just epic. We got Andy Serkis giving his fantastic speech to get the prisoners to revolt, and that would have been enough. But then we get an even more epic speech by Stelan Skarsgard that completely explains Luthen's character. Just fucking incredible. I know they probably won't get them but this show deserves so many Emmys.
I'm GOING to commit Luthen's monologue to memory.
I love how you always comment on how good Mon Mothma looks … because she is stunning 🤩
“Attaaaaaaack!”
This is the best of Disney+ Star Wars series. I absolutely love the Andor series. To me, this absolutely beats the sequel trilogy and anything else done by Disney except for the mandalorian. I honestly think that this is steps above the mandalorian even though I love both of them.
BEST SHOW OUT RIGHT NOW BY A COUNTRY MILE! SO GOOD!
This show continues to deliver, and keeps reminding me of just how damn good Star Wars can be when handled right. Seeing you so invested in it is wonderful is a testament to the excellent job they've done with it, and thank you for sharing this.
I got emotional on Luthens monologue as well. Powerful
Andor is the best 'star wars' content ever made.
I have to wonder if Lucas would even concede that.
This episode was so powerful in terms of delivery and exposition that has been building throughout the show. It's going to become crazier in the next two episodes. This show should receive recognition as much as the Mandalorian has.
I think people will binge watch this a few years from now and appreciate it. Some people have Disney/Star Wars fatigue.
Mandalorian doesn't deserve its recognition.
Andy Serkis gave a way better performance in 3 episodes playing Kino than Snoke in both movies. Such an incredible actor.
I actually quite liked those two films and I absolutely agree, Serkis was wasted in the sequel trilogy. I'm really glad he got another chance with this franchise, he did a phenomenal job here
@@christianwise637 I actually quite liked the first two sequel movies AND think they made good use of Snoke exactly the way they needed him to, given the context of moving away from and breaking down the idea of singular larger-than-life evil figures as much as possible. Andy Serkis also had a lot of input on how to portray Snoke and absolutely knew what he was doing. And it's great to see Andy Serkis nail another role.
Best Star Wars show hands-down.
Everyone in this show deserves an Emmy
Andy Serkis's escape speech was some Aaron Sorkin-level writing. I was reminded in a way of Michael Douglas's speech at the end of "The American President". The power of the spoken word...
when you deal with gangsters who are rich enough to not care about money, favors and providing respectability to them or their children or their businesses are the only currency left.
Stellan Skarsgård deserves an Emmy for this show.
The prison break was awesome, but Luthen's monologue is what is sticking with me. Fucking incredible writing.
I liked how real it was, like he was only just thinking of it now. He knows the truth of what he's suffered, but how to convey it to someone who has to entertain a middle ground? The writing was perfect in it's authenticity, a first draft, but delivered with honesty. Compelling and fresh, no polish or derring-do shennanigans.
Luthen's monologue has a lot of similarities to the Operative's monologue to Mal about doing what is necessary to create a future that he cannot ever take part in due to the moral damage those actions will require. Interesting here to see it from the "hero" rather than the "villain". Great scenes both.
Apparently Lenin stopped listening to classical music, which he really loved, because it softened his heart too much for the tasks of revolution. Luthen's speech really reminded me of that, cutting parts of yourself away to become a sharper spear against the enemy.
I can't get enough of Andy Serkis, whether its his motion capture performances or live action.....he's absolutely fantastic.
This show is so good. The writing the production and the acting, WOW! You really feel the sacrifice of the Rebels. A feeling you didn’t quite buy into in the original trilogy. You just accepted that the Empire was evil. Now you see why, they were evil.
I love this show with my whole damn heart.
I like your solution of trying to find some floaties for Kino. That would have given that scene a very different tone. :)
Your descriptions of this episode in particular are really insightful and imbued with emotion. Might be your best.
Totally agree! Don’t know how people can’t see this is amazing. We need some Emmy noms for this show!
Kino, Luthen, Melchi, and eventually Cassian and Jyn are all people who led others to a freedom they themselves would never see.
Great reaction. Another excellent episode!
I would like to think that this is not the last from Kino Loy. Andy Serkis hit this out of the ballpark. That speech from Luthen? Goddamn, Stellan Skaarsgard is such a brilliant actor. What a moving, inspiring monologue.
Phenomenal acting, writing, and storytelling.
Wow. I freaking love this show. I FREAKING LOVE "STAR WARS: ANDOR"!!!
The writing and acting this episode was amazing 👏
I love how you actively participate with the growing tension and your actions relate your true feelings of the scene being shown. That’s what makes watching you interesting. Season 2 maybe couple of years off and I would certainly would love to watch an episode or 2 with you. That would be exciting .. good luck with your views and comments - love them
He's been doing it for 15 years the empire has been in power .. he says That during the elevator meeting , with Ezra Bridger we remember that date in starwars rebels ...we know whos 15 years old at this time Luke,Ezra , And princess Leia Pretty interesting to flesh out more what was happening during that time.. Basically, the shows are on parallel paths ..pretty cool
Andy Serkis and Stellan Skarsgaard BDE contest
What a fucking episode
This show’s theme is “Why rebel?”
Last week, the answer was fascism
This week, the answer is “Luthen and Kino told us to”
That monologue was epic ! Gosh !
Brilliant brilliant writing and what performances. The rebel informer it is completely faithful to the writing watch back and you’ll see how the camera lingers on him, he balances giving good feedback against his spy work being just slightly underwhelming yet also providing enough value that they can’t suspect
Maybe it's just me, but the moment where all the prisoners realised the floors weren't working and then proceeded to attack the guards reminded me so much of the scene at the start of Snowpiercer where they discover the guards have no bullets
All that slow burn and waiting week after week has been paid off. remarkable episode, the star wars at its best. good point about loneliness and frustration. I kind of feel the same with this Andor show. My star wars fans dont watch it so I dont have anyone to discuss about it. Thankfully there are people like Sesska who are here to put some sense to everything. so much appreciated
both of those speeches were amazing.
Some people are floating around the idea that Luthen is a former Jedi, which to me completely misses the point! This show is devoted to showing the everyday, human heroes and villains, no one with special powers, and that speech talks about the price real people have to pay to have any kind of success against the powers that be! It can't and should not be only about the Jedi and The Force! But I will say Luthen can wear a cape like no one's business!! LOL!!
Regarding sacrifice and means justifying ends: It may sound really creepy but I think everyone should think about whether or not they'd sacrifice their loved ones 'for the greater good' (or however one wants to frame that). Not because I think people should or should not, but because the exercise of thinking about it prepares you for difficult decisions and gives you insight into what you really value. Then, when the hammer falls, you'll know just what to do, rather than having indecision ruin either 'good' outcome.
Or just as poignant, letting a friend die to save a handful of strangers. Those are the kind of decisions police, soldiers, firemen etc. have to make often. You really don't know what kind of person you are till you've had to make a choice like that.
Great analysis at the end after the reaction about loneliness. I usually skip that part in reactions. Most TH-camrs have a hard time breaking down the emotions in Andor. You articulated it very well.
Kino channeled his inner Ceaser from planet of the apes.
Rebels together... strong.
Personally, I get a lot of this arc of the series for being South American. Because of my age I did not live it, but fascist dictatorships are very much in the culture of the region as well as the struggle that led us to free ourselves (or try) from them.
That Star Wars content created just praised Andor and gave it 9 out of 10.. he was the main Star Wars fan base pushing don’t watch Andor..and his fan in his comments pushing that’s.
Now since he gave this episode 10 high praise, now his fans in his comments are saying they like now.
He is the top Star Wars content creators on TH-cam.. now you will see people loving Andor now
What a stupid thing to do, trying to get people not to watch it 🙄 couldn’t he just let people watch what they want to watch. Can’t really be a proper fan if he was trying to derail a show of the same universe he’s apparently a ‘fan’ of.
@@obiwankenobi687 don't be hypocritical
@@larrote6467 what? It’s true though. You’re not a fan if you’re actively trying to derail a show with your massive fan base
I haven't watched you since Mando. I'm sorry to just get back now. I'll finish this out with you. 👏🏼👏🏼 (Full Alerts, and that last speech by Skarsgård was epic btw)
The Mandalorian is my show i really doubted this Andor show but wow changed my mind the acting you feel the emotion in all these characters . The speeches of Andy Serkis and Stellan Skarsgard so good . Look forward to two part finally
" I yearned to be a savior against injustice without contemplating the cost and by the time I looked down there was no longer any ground beneath my feet." -- Luthen Rael. Enough said.
I first noticed you on a compilation of Mando when Luke showed up and you said "ok settle down everybody". I subscribed to your channel because I saw the passion and logic which is a rare combination of traits in anyone. Andor is one of greediest shows on TV period I have seen in awhile, even Game of Thrones didn't have the anxiety level of this show. The one thing that KK/Disney did was to give Tony Gilroy complete support to tell the story and regardless of the cost of production. Tony has already said season 2 will be over the top (it will be the 4 years leading up to Rogue One) because it will do 3 episodic arcs for each year. Seeska love your fire and emotional honesty while doing your reactions.
2 hours!!!! Lets go.... And note, Serkais stayed standing on the floor.
If you ever thought how a prison break can make you feel, this episode reminds you. I'll admit, I didn't expect it and it hit me like a ton of bricks.
I don't comment on videos often but I appreciate you giving credit to the actor playing Lonnie because I feel his performance is going unnoticed or being underrated and undercut by the monologue Skarsgard gave. Lonnie and his context make the whole scene hit harder in my mind. 10/10 performances ALL around
What an embarrassment of riches. This was an amazing episode amongst the season of amazing episodes. I can't wait for the next two episodes. Amazing reaction as always!
If I wore a hat, id take it off to you, Mr Skarsgard...and I'd make a delightful cup of Tea for you, Mr Serkis.
I am loving this show. The writing and acting is powerful. I agree big-time that a major theme of this episode is the nature of difficult decisions to fight or to sacrifice your life or your principles for a cause. My only quibble is that we really have not seen enough of Mon Mothma's daughter or know enough about their relationship or even the quality of Mon Mothma's marriage. But I can still empathize with Mothma's steely attempt to protect her daughter. I also get the feeling that Mothma wants to protect her social position and not be judged for hanging around with criminals, even though there is a slight hint that her husband may have done business with the bad guy. I am enjoying this show so much that I want to see more of the world and societies we are seeing.
Wild speculation time. At the beggining of this arc Incel Carn told girlboss fachist Merro that he could recognise Axis' (Luthen's) voice if he heard it. When Luthens mole suggested inspecting the ship, Deadra very quickly left the room.
I think she could have, and this is just speculation, planted a bug on something he took out of the building with him. Perhaps she got a recording of Luthen's voice when they met face to face. If she shows that recording to everyones least favorite wanna be evil villian, that could lead to Luthens downfall much faster than anticipated.
Well, Carn is gonna throw a huge wrench in that plan by jumping town and heading to Ferrix on his own. He's gonna get himself in huge trouble and fuck up whatever Dedra and the ISB are doing.
Amen to everything you said afterwards. Yes, I can understand people are different and like different things, but when "fans" say they don't like this, it shows how badly they've been programmed by a Star Wars history of thin dialogue, basic characters, clear "heroes" and "bad" guys, extremely linear story-telling... I could go on and on. I'm not saying it's all bad for those reasons- I love the original series for what it was, prequels not so much, the animated shows are fun in a certain way, I love The Mandalorian for a popcorn-action show (the story isn't horrible either), and boba fett and Kenobi imho were extremely disappointing and non-sensical a lot of the time. That being said, this show and Rogue One are BY FAR the best written, acted, and filmed cinema of Disney-era Star Wars. I feel sorry for those who have become so used to the previous stuff I mentioned that they confuse what they like with "quality".
beautiful reaction, thank you so much
Yup. Luther's speech got me too
Serkis knocked it out of the park, but I couldn't unhear snoke's voice over the prison microphone :/
"I need all the heroes I can get." is a nice line, since while morally grey characters like him help get the rebellion going, it's heroes like Luke, Leia, Han, Chewy, Lando, C2P0, R2-D2, Obi Wan, Yoda, Mon Mothma, her general, Akbar, Wedge, Poe's parents, Ashoka, the Ghost crew, etc. who will win the day in the end.
As much as so many people keep whining about how slow this show is (which is weird as every episode has been riveting through the writing and performances) every episode is necessary to build up to the arc finale so that the events show layers of meaning and emotional investment.
This show is phenomenal but I did find myself yelling grab the boots! And shoot up the control panels.
I think that while this is the least "Star Wars" of titles, it is also the best of "Star Wars" titles.
Btw, His Dark Materials Season 3 starts Dec 5!!!
Ok this might be my favorite episode 😂
I know he ran off with Melshi at the end but they can’t have them both forming too close of a bond. As they’re hardly all over each other in rogue one. They barely interact so I’m interested in how friendly they’re going to get.
They ended up in different branches of the rebellion military. Andor a spy, Melshi a spec force sergeant. Chances being they didn’t have much time to bond. And we didn’t really need to explore any friendships between them
@@martinjrgensen8234 they didn’t explore any friendship with them because they didn’t know in 7 years time they’d put Melshi in a spin off prequel. So just hope they don’t have them bond that much in Andor
Great reaction
Another amazing episode
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The filming locations across the UK are stunning and the Pinewood Studios sets are just epic. But this, to me, is like the Deep Space Nine of Star Wars. Unlike a lot of new sci-fi shows (including Star Trek) this shows the dark side (of the empire) but also shows hope. The dialogue is better it feels written by grown-ups and not millennials that throw in modern slang and well-worn tropes just to be cool. It is true to the Star Wars universe but also its own thing.
Deep space nine was crap. Nothing in common with this at all. If anything it would only make sense if sisko were the empire.
Wow! This episode was amazing!
Stellans speech encapsulates why the Emperor lost and the Rebels won. One party was willing to sacrifice everything to win, the other didn't.
*im so happy w andor hey.* it is all tht is left now, but it is so good. _JC
I’ve seen more people loving this show than hate. Most are just fatigued by starwars.
Nah. Andors numbers are way way better than were reported. They made a mistake and admitted to it. But now that that data is fouled up, they don't really know how well it's been doing. Have to wait and see, but they knew its doing a lot better than they thought.
Surely you'd jump anyway and hope Cassian/Keef or one of the others would help you in the water. It'll be a shame if that's the last of Andy Serkis in the series... unless we see him being re-captured and prepared for Operation Snoke 😉
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How many dads clenched their jaws, and their fists, and then grabbed a bat, pointed it at their screens, and said, “You mention my daughter again, and it’ll be the last thing you ever say in this lifetime!”?
Why are the Brits so good at acting?
What I hear most from people who don't like Andor, is that it's boring and dull. I respect everyone's opinion but if you think THIS was boring or dull you have to get your head examined.
Well said!
I think the people who say it's boring and dull expected lightsabers and flashy starship battles, just because it has the Star Wars name attached to it, and when they didn't get that, instead of finding out what the show is about, they just tuned out
Let them have their Grogu.
We'll have 24eps of the very best of Star Wars.
your hair is fire in this video
I wondered what they were building and i think its parts for the death star
There is a way for Andy serkis to make it out if he waits another troop transport will eventually show up and he can hijack it.
These 3 episodes I kept thinking man this is basically the Stanford prison experiment right? Like that was basically a test on how easily power would corrupt people to prove how easy and a nice person could turn into a nazi basically. Like those guards hiding I was thinking they are just doing their job... Though their job has them in this position of power and at the same time being so out numbered makes it so they are crapping themselves every day that something might go wrong. Kinda like how cops panic and shoot people out of fear because apparently our police training is insanely lacking... Then again how hard is it to train someone to resist the natural urges especially when your job is dealing with potential life or death situations daily.
I say this partly in jest, but in a universe where a 10 year old can blow up a battle cruiser and a 20 year old can destroy a Death Star, having a 50 year old who can't swim is almost unbelievable XD