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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2024
- So you finally want to stop your opponents from playing any Magic at all? Then you'll love this rundown on how to play stax in commander
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Writers:
Nicplz
Sasha Jelten
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00:00 Intro
01:41 Overview
02:25 What the Hell is Stax?
03:54 Stax is Agro Control
07:05 Win My Heart
07:09 How to Play Stax in Commander
07:41Artifacts for Stax
10:16 Enchantments for Stax
13:11 Creatures for Stax
15:17 Lands for Stax
16:19 How Does Stax Win?
17:13 How to Beat Stax
19:10 Conclusion
Stax is the best way to maximize quantity of time with your friends.
While simultaneously minimizing your friend count
No it's not.
You could simply do another game.
@@simonboucher5170 sharp as a tack, cant get anything by you.
@@SLJB8thats when ur ego doesnt allow you to scoop 😮
Agreed
Im literally making a stax deck for the first time, thank you for this information
What are you building???
@@nicplzI'm starting with a budget grand arbiter augustin deck to see how my pod reacts to stax, but I hope to play winota one day
@@WorldofSoupS try tvesh ishai partner pairing
cEDH player here. If you are playing stax please have an efficient way to win the game! Also if you’re playing against stax, DO NOT remove a stax piece unless you are positive you can win the game on that turn
Lmao very true! Keep the stax player at arms length. Don’t let them help too much lol.
So happy this showed up right at the top of my feed! Been loving your IG content.
Thanks so much! What you been brewing up recently?
@@nicplz a lil Dina, Soul Steeper deck
This is a great video! For some reason, I thought Gaddock Teeg was banned in EDH. Maybe I'm thinking of something years ago or maybe I just made it up?
I love Stax! I find that running certain crucial Stax pieces can not only even out a game in an environment where you may play against decks at various different power levels, but if you have a Commander that accelerates the game it feels a lot less bad for your opponent's. My most recent Stax deck is Nelly Borca from the Karlov Manor precon. I run certain pieces like Strangehold, Trouble in Pairs, Rest in Peace, Aven Mindcensor, a good amount of stuff. However, since my Commander naturally accelerates the game with all of its goad shenanigans, I haven't ever really had issues with someone at the table feeling like they couldn't play. Rather, they've often focused on trying to figure out how to play around what my deck is forcing the rest of the table to do instead of what it's keeping them from doing. It helps that I have a bit of an Archenemy reputation anyway, and that Nelly Borca draws my opponent's cards, but overall Stax can encourage a table to work together and create a really fun environment if done correctly.
Don't get me wrong, just slamming down a Grand Arbiter and Winter Orb can be fun, but Stax has been much more enjoyable for me when it's used in a much more specific and interactive way.
Yeah, I agree with that last bit for sure! It's sooo much better if you have a strategy in mind. That's hilarious about Teeg. I wonder if you were thinking of someone else!
Great video again man! Loving the change of pace with some long form content. Absolutely LOVED the Infect video last week and this stax video is great too! I had no idea where the term STAX came from and that’s super interesting! The break down of everything from Playstyle to staple cards for the strategy at hand are a great help! I’d be curious to see some more “Hidden Gem cards” to give a deck more flavor or uniqueness from your run of the mill stax or infect or whatever strategy. But this is exactly the kind of video I need in deep diving a strategy I might not have tried on my own but now my interest is peaked😏
I’ve gathered from a few of your comments in your videos that you’ve played a bit of competitive or maybe even still do. I’m kind of on the cusp of playing high powered EDH and maybe dipping my toes into CEDH. But while I know the power level of things are drastically different going from a casual pod to a Comp pod, I also know that it’s almost a completely different game at that level. So I’m curious if you have any pointers on where to get started. Staple cards to have on hand, places to print proxies (if need be), what kind of learning curve you could expect when first starting the format, ways to find CEDH pod (via LFG discords or other communities or Reddit pages or your own discord), etc. not sure if that’s entirely your realm or something you’re interested in making but just an idea! Either way keep killin it broski and I’m looking forward to the next video!
Hey thanks so much for all of the kind words! I'd honestly suggest checking out the Play To Win podcast and TH-cam channel. They're great when starting with cEDH. That's the first stop without a doubt! My discord does have some cEDH games if you ask the LFG channel for it specifically!
Connoisseur's of the finest archetype in magic found their way here.
I went for Oswald Fiddlebender as my commander of choice for this type of deck: Being a 2 CMC is hard for most casual decks to actually stop him before I can tutor whatever I might need but a solid plan is to tutor Conqueror's Flail (A more expensive but almost always tutor-able version of grand abolisher since it's an artifact Oswad can tutor for) and Ethersworn Canonist or even Winter Orb on the 2 CMC pieces, then if I can I also immediately drop Orb of Dreams or Ensaring Bridge on the 3 part but if nobody has a quick answer I usually go for the win-con pieces like Basalt Monolith + Rings of Brightheart + Walking Ballista although I have space for other combos as well usually around blasting station or even just endless tokens.
This sounds busted fun. You brewing anything new atm?
this is a kick ass video, thank you for this.
Thanks so much! Which theme would you like to see me cover next?
@@nicplz shit ion know. Your content is good tho
This video is great. The card recommendations for going agaist stax are really good. Stax is a fun archetype and deserves a bit more love than it gets.
It’s an important deck type in the history of Magic. Thanks for watching!
Someone once told me targetted land destruction was banned. They then played a gaeas cradle.
I brought my Kamahl Fist of Krosa all in Forrest ramp deck next time.
He showed up the next week with a deck that plays Armageddon.
haha I love this.
I love my liesa stax, it runs all the good stax stuff plus discard and usually kills with bloodchief and cataclysm
I quite like stax and i wish people would play it more. The most fun commander game i've ever played was a game where on turn 3 two different people had dropped a thalia, guardian of thraben and a 3rd person had a magus of the tabernacle. I was mana screwed and drew my 4th land on turn 8 but it was such a great experience having to think differently and managing the few resources i had
You can also think differently and have fun with proper resource management with a deck that is not, you know, for degenerates that don't deserve the company of the few brave LGS players that had mercy upon your wretched soul and allowed you at their pod, only for them to realize what a disgusting unfun player you are and never call you ever again. Quit stax buddy, life will get better.
Funny thing is in Competitive EDH Stax is Nigh useless as a lot of the times you are just handing the win to someone else by accident as you really need to play the Right Cards in the Right Sequencing and the Right Time otherwise you might as well be throwing, so pretty much you have to know how the game works to play Stax in Competitive EDH. Like it is harder than playing control in competitive since it is a 4 player free for all format.
One of my favorite stax combos are Maralen of the Mornsong and Opposition Agent as you shut off their ability to draw and you lock them out from searching while Maralen damages them as you can always say the search fails or if you know their deck exile their win con. But i would say play Opposition Agent first as if they let Maralen resolve they will not let the Agent resolve as if they did they are locked out but now they can use Maralen to win faster whereas if you play the Agent first they are not even going to bother with a counter spell but use removal
While there is no universal stax card to put in any Stax deck Karn the Great Creator comes close to it as he shuts down your opponents artifacts activated abilities while you can still use yours meaning a great mana advantage in higher levels of play. Remember no one card fits all when it comes to Stax it is all situational which makes it even harder to do
Imagine you are playing against a Phage the Untouchable deck and suddenly you realize "Oh shit i get why she is called untouchable now" as it is a Mono Black Stax. Now normally a Phage deck would have some form of Stax such as a Torpor Orb so you can play her from the command zone as if you play her not from your hand her ETB kills ya so you kinda need to shut ETB's down at times so it's not unusual to see some stax like cards in the deck just to get it to function, but then you notice they cast a Conqueror's Flail meaning you can't cast spells during their turn if they equip it to a creature
I swear when a deck is running what seems like nothing but high priority targets to be counter spelled you might wanna ask that person "Is that a Stax Storm Deck?" like you know a mix between both but is more on the Stax side just to get it to work in competitive because the commander is not competitively viable. Turning something into a Stax Deck is one way to make something competitively viable such as for example turning artifacts into lands then using Numot's land destruction ability to destroy the newly made lands, help i think i maybe insane as i am even entertaining the idea of Mono White Door to Nothingness as a competitive deck and of course Kenrith returned king would be the commander as the way color identity works i need the pips, but other than that white has great artifact search enchantment search and artifact recursion
just out of curiosity if you repeat the vid does that count as view for the youtuber i know its one out of thousands but anything counts to help
Im building a very nice stax deck right now 😅. It's Liesa, Shroud of Dusk, which is pretty nasty by herself! She basically just taxes spells with 2 life. Not bad that she's a 5/5 flying lifelink either. Theres lots of other cards that do similar things like painful quandry, blood chief ascension, creeping bloodsucker, rug of smothering, and syr konrad, the grim as well. It also has a good amount of other flyers, life gain, and pillow fort style cards because it gets a lot of hate at the table jusy draining people for playing the game!
still need the niv review😔😔great video tho stax is wonderful
All Niv all the time?
What is the srongest staxdeck in your oppinion?
My top 3 would be
Urza
Winota
Narset Enlightened
LightPaws can also be good
And Derevi seems also viable
GrandArbiter is mostly lacking a wincon
Now let's see how we deal with proactive decks chalk full of removal
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That would explain why my Ranar deck made last game go for a while lol
When did you build it??
I ran pillow fort for a long time, Grand Arbitor and the deck won with Azors Elecutors or a horde of angels lol
Niicccee. What you running these days??
@nicplz mostly aggro,go wide,or go tall decks now or do something silly like Yurlock. My main deck is a colorless deck that is built around omarthis which I have to tell players at the start of the game has no Eldrazi creatures. I just want to turn my whole deck into 2/2's and swing to win.
Stax just feels like one of the only ways to actually get to play my funny little guys. Maybe its just my scene but everyone I play with is blue blasting counter spells constantly which seems to be fine and fun for others? But then Stax gets a ton of hate. At least with Stax they are intractable pieces instead of hearing "just play around counters" in a 4 way format
Stax can totally find a nice balance in the right casual pod. I'm glad you posted this. Which decks??
Would Will of the Consuls and Blind Obedience be considered stax as well?
I only just realised that my Queen Marchesa deck is considered stax because it's pillow fort...
Blind Obedience is for sure a nice lil stax piece.
My type of stax is Omen Machine, it turns off turbo card draw, nerfs future counterspells, and sets me up to cast big expensive haymakers.
(Also people rarely hate on it unless they're playing control)
Omen Machine {6}
Artifact
Players can’t draw cards.
At the beginning of each player’s draw step, that player exiles the top card of their library. If it’s a land card, the player puts it onto the battlefield. Otherwise, the player casts it without paying its mana cost if able.
What happens if someone plays a drannith magistrate into that? Do you just scoop at that point?
@@RJP1910 yeah probably
One of my friends gets salty at almost anything. Mill, Counterspells, Infinite combos, 2 or 3 card combos, Extra turns, extra combats/upkeeps, and more! I cant wait to use this new stax deck against him. . I always ask, hey is it okay if I play x? he always says yes but the look on his face when I actually do the thing I said I was going to do is priceless and I cant wait to lock him out of the game then spend 80 turns decking him out since he refuses to concede. Am I the problem here? oh yeah for sure but he always has the option to say no :3
I brewed a Yasharn stax/tokens deck because I want to bring ruin to blue/treasure decks
Would a deck with 15 types of blasphemous act boardwipes in edh be considered a control/ stax deck that wins through burning players using earthquake spells? I play what I consider stax pieces like repercussion and burning sands that makes playing creatures problematic.
Did you forget to turn your camera off after 60 seconds?
I love stax, prison, hatebears, etc. Aggro, stompy, combat decks and combo decks don't do much for me. I'm a control player at heart. Unfortunately, though, this doesn't translate to finding too many compatible EDH games.
A card i like to use against stax is enchanter's bane
Brutal. Which deck you running that in?
Stax mono blue urza 😎
Or play urza for winter Orb 😅
players need to play more removal, so they can deal with stax end of story
This makes for a nice short poem about stax.
Why do I watch this video? To destroy that stax deck.
EDH is a social format. If you aren’t taking the table’s enjoyment into consideration when brewing, you aren’t welcome at my pod. Play stax, get told to gtfo
So you want to build a Stax deck?!
Don't. Just. Don't.
LOL
The archetype has been around since the very beginning. it just had yet to be clearly defined until $t4ks came around. U/W Has always had pieces for this style of play, stasis, winter orb, land tax, balance, moat ect.
There's a reason they don't like it. Pimping it for clickz won't change that.
I totally understand why people don't like it. And I respect that. But it's not just for clicks. Stax is a truly important theme in the history of Magic. It's critical in balance out any competitive format.
@nicplz : and it's done to death with the same eye-rolling cards, over and over. Or you could do a series where you dissect a deck that's high in synergy, and explain to us what each piece does in isolation, and how they synergise, and why it matters and what the actual record of play is like after ten games? Does synergy count as much as oppressive bombs? If not, why not?
Riffing on this, how about a Surestrike Trident? Costs 2 to cast, 4 to attach. Activate by tapping the equipped creature and unattaching the Trident. Big creature, maybe 7-10 damage to an opponent's face.
Now drop it into a deck which goes tall. Really, really tall. Like, +40/+40 is a start. Suddenly that equip cost isn't very much...
Staxx is hated because it's a lame, slow, boring play style that wastes everyone's time and kills a good time. But, go ahead and be the guys that farts and stinks at the club to cast away the beautiful women.
How to play stax…dont.
That shirt goes hard af. 🤌🏻🔥💯
Thank ya! You gotta check out their IG Isolation Man!