Brenda Martinez, basically pushing to the front but not running faster. The rest of the girls bunching up behind her unable to get past. Collision was inevitable...looking though her other races she seems to bump into other runners a lot.
That shoulder bump @ 2:00 on the left side of the screen was a bit harsh 💀💀 That girl in pink who took the lead for a while was definitely pushing to stay a head and caused that girl to fall and lose her chance.
Nice kick Shelby. 👍 On a side note, why is Brenda Martinez always involved in pushing, shoving, and tripping incidents??? She’s the most intrusive runner I’ve ever seen. Jeez.
+Whis Although this was not her fault, she seems to be snake bit in big races; her use of elbows against Jenny was warranted as many of these ladies will be heading to Europe and those gals play rough, but I get your point.
mstrunn thanks for noticing. I went back and watched the race again to try and see what actually happened. There are 3 separate incidents involving Brenda. 1:59, throws a soft elbow to a runner that’s already gained the pass on her. 2:13, a little bit stronger elbow/bump on Simpson (looked to me like Simpson, like the previous girl, had already gained the pass). And then 3:17, it looked like Brenda was slowing down, causing another runner to roll up on her. Got nothing against Brenda, but go watch the 800M and 1500M Olympics Trials from 2016. There she is again.
mstrunn yeah she was in lane 1 but down the backstretch she moved to the middle of lane 1. People get passed on the inside of the same lane all the time. She was getting passed by Jenny on the outside and then this girl was coming through on the inside.
Not all and not always. Swap to international level! You won't find any Martinezes there but Shelby and Jenny. Nothing wrong with calling these athlets beautiful. I like the pictures when they run sychronously from the start and when they accelerate then in the last round.
All the comments on Martinez...at the 2:40 mark in the race Simpson cut in on her, the push was warranted. At 3:38 she is trying to cut in from the middle of lane 1 to the inside at the start of the turn to gain momentum and possibly a step on those who stayed wide. She still had position and she got her heel clipped from behind by Johnson who at that point trailed by half a stride. It reminds me of the Decker-Budd incident in 84 with Decker trying to force her way on the inside, losing her balance when she caught Budd's heel being half a stride behind. You take that risk passing on the inside when someone is running in the middle of lane 1, especially when you have the metal curbing for someone to trip over in a stumble. Martinez's mistake is slowing it down too much between 900 and 1100. That left it open for the fast kickers like Shelby and Simpson to run up on her...she cannot outkick either of them with 200 or 250 to go. With no fall the best she does in that race is 4th. Had she kept it a bit faster 900 to 1100 I think she gets 3rd and maybe higher if someone boxes in Simpson or Shelby or they have to get around traffic on the outside of the final turn. At this level though in a slow pace elbows and pushes are to be expected.
ma ga nah pretty sure she's never outkicked shelby, Kate or Jenny. Sorry to burst your bubble there. The trip from behind was a mutual tumble. Martinez left it open for someone to come through, Johnson didn't get quite far enough in. The whole race the only person you see causing stumbles and bumps is Martinez. She does that in every race for no reason. Glad she fell. Maybe she'll stop throwing so many elbows
B Mart PR es apenas sub-4: 01, que es más lento que el décimo estadounidense más rápido, Regina Jacobs ... por más de medio segundo. El punto es que hay una diferencia entre un 'pequeño golpe' y jugar pinball humano cuando no tienes ninguna posibilidad de ganar.
initially there was a benefit of a doubt when that poor girl with flower in her hair got tripped at the olympic trials and brenda was involved. then another..hmm then another ..what? and another..what the hell?
Amazing.. what fantastic competition .. Great athletics showing and sharing some of the very best of the best.. thank you for this video. Well done Houlihan.. well done!
Another drug cheat busted ... we all knew she was doped and now we caught her. Only sad part is she is not banned for life ... a disgrace to athletics and another black mark on a ruined sport.
@@justinnibaur5271 Lance Armstrong and Mario Jones never tested positive and were tested hundreds of times throughout their careers. Anyone that things negative tests mean everyone is clean is absurdly naive
@@veganpotterthevegan The fact that you try to tarnish all of these athletes is just not right. They put the work in and deserve respect. Anyone that thinks all positives are correct is absurdly naive. I have much faith that nobody in this field has ever doped including shelby
Everyone in here is busting Brenda's chops and blaming her when you know quite well she is not to be blamed for getting pushed around or spiked from the back. It's been going on for many years and races and the commentators and most people ignore how much the other runners hate on her. I wondered why!!!???
Martinez is always right in the middle of some sketchy elbowing, pushing, and tripping...always. 1500/mile is always a distance where things can get hairy but with her it's like she's more into blocking than she is running. was not unhappy to see her go down. hope the other runner is alright.
#9 Brenda Martinez was pushing shoving and caused a trip and fall. She deserved to fall and should have been DQed for contact. Cant stand runners like her. Spoil Sport.
@@Jumbosock almost no one cut her off, on two separate occasions and two separate athletes she bloody swatted at as they merely tried to pass her who tf does that?
I stand corrected.....on the very first trip....a runner moved inward to her left directly fouling Martinez and with the fall...usually the runner behind (Behind Martinez) causes the problem by tripping up the lead runner....so I offer her rye bread as a condolance prize!
The basic issue was that the 2 fastest runners chose to start at the back in a short race. Their moves to the front ended up making it a more aggressive race than necessary. Huge props to both of them, but no need to “play humble”-it just disrupts the race. Cheers
LMAO it's not called "playing humble" it's called staying out of traffic. Just because you're the fastest in the field doesn't mean you need to be at the front from the gun. That's not always a great tactic if you're a fast kicker. If you know you're faster on the last lap than everyone in front of you, why do you need to be up there? How many times did we see Mo Farah go straight to the back in a 5k/10k? And still win. The aggression came from Martinez shoving everyone
These announcers need to correct themselves with medals..... for all the people that have been banned..... Brenda mArtinez has a SILVER medal because of Savivova being banned .... very rude to not correct their status.
That one girl who fell inward w about 300m to go....what a knucklehead.....she jus caused one other to trip putting her out and tripped 2 others in total of 3 tripping incidents....
+Jaymes That's not so, Brenda already had position on the inside, she did not impede anyone, the girl behind her clipped her, Brenda was in perfect position to strike with 300 to go, when you're bunched up like that things happen.
mstrunn I'm perfectly aware of things like that but if you watch it, down the back stretch she starts to go wide in lane 1 and leaves an opening for the girl to gain some ground on the inside. When they came to the turn (200 to go. Idk why everyone keeps saying 300) she came back inside right infront of the girl. The girl didn't change anything about how she was running on the inside, Brenda just cut over too close. It's obvious.
Next year they will be at the Olympics,because the IOC lifted the ban,for Athletics,but they are still banned by IAAF. And with a year and half,the banned athletes will target it
Why isn't TH-cam promoting women who don't dope and are eligible to represent us. It's because Big Tech is left and Nike is left. The doping story has been suppressed. What are the facts? Pork burrito. Got it.
Siempre me handan tumbando a Brenda Martínez en estados unidos que les pasa? Compite internacionalmente y no pasa nada. Compite en usa y de 3 carreras me la tumban 1 . Ya parenle
B Mart PR es solo sub-4: 01, que es más lento que el décimo estadounidense más rápido, Regina Jacobs ... *por más de medio segundo.* No hay posibilidad de ganar, salvo jugar "human piball"
She got caught, and there's a high probability other in this race were doing the same things, but were not caught. Remember, steroids don't make you run faster. They keep your body from being tore down after hard interval sessions So the fact she trained like an animal or not isn't even a question. She did. But others not on steroids tried to train as hard as she did and got injured or listened to their body and trained a level down and couldn't compete with her.
The shit she got popped for isn’t even what people take anymore when cheating in endurance sports. If she wanted to cheat she would have taken EPO not Nandrolone. False positives happen all the time.
Well this is an awkwardly timed recommended video
You got that right. Hey "let's start and argument" video.
@@truth8508 lol
Damn she must have eaten a lot of burritos to win this race! 😳
damn, houlihan was a machine on that home stretch.
Cos she cheats
You know what I want to see at the bell lap? The crowd.
+Cap I know what you mean but it was a shot of Shelby's family, they could have panned them after the race.
mstrunn they showed them after show won that should have been enough lol
Bell? Taco Bell? :p
Brenda Martinez, basically pushing to the front but not running faster. The rest of the girls bunching up behind her unable to get past. Collision was inevitable...looking though her other races she seems to bump into other runners a lot.
So does Hiltz. Always fighting for 2nd on the first lap. Finishing last or near last.
wow,, , holly Houlihan has a serious kick , this will take her places , literally and figuratively. great Job an excellent athlete ..
She will get a medal in 2020.because she can wait,or go with the pace.the most dangerous runner,
Damn this aged well
She must have had two burritos to fuel that kick.
I said a lot more about leftist Nike and leftist Big Tech. EVERYTHING has been ghosted.
As a resident of northwest Iowa, this makes me proud.
Houlihan is soooo good at running. I’ve been a huge fan!
Then it turned out she was using performance enhancers...
If the other runners ate the pork burrito instead of the chicken, they would have had a chance!
That shoulder bump @ 2:00 on the left side of the screen was a bit harsh 💀💀 That girl in pink who took the lead for a while was definitely pushing to stay a head and caused that girl to fall and lose her chance.
Nice kick Shelby. 👍 On a side note, why is Brenda Martinez always involved in pushing, shoving, and tripping incidents??? She’s the most intrusive runner I’ve ever seen. Jeez.
+Whis Although this was not her fault, she seems to be snake bit in big races; her use of elbows against Jenny was warranted as many of these ladies will be heading to Europe and those gals play rough, but I get your point.
mstrunn thanks for noticing. I went back and watched the race again to try and see what actually happened. There are 3 separate incidents involving Brenda. 1:59, throws a soft elbow to a runner that’s already gained the pass on her. 2:13, a little bit stronger elbow/bump on Simpson (looked to me like Simpson, like the previous girl, had already gained the pass). And then 3:17, it looked like Brenda was slowing down, causing another runner to roll up on her. Got nothing against Brenda, but go watch the 800M and 1500M Olympics Trials from 2016. There she is again.
Brenda completely caused the fall. It's ignorant to not believe that. She clearly cut over in front of a girl. As soon as she moved inside she falls
mstrunn yeah she was in lane 1 but down the backstretch she moved to the middle of lane 1. People get passed on the inside of the same lane all the time. She was getting passed by Jenny on the outside and then this girl was coming through on the inside.
Jenny cut in on her WAY too soon; then someone tripped her from behind. Don’t think sh was to blame in this one personally
They may not set out to be, but they are all so beautiful.
Not all and not always. Swap to international level! You won't find any Martinezes there but Shelby and Jenny. Nothing wrong with calling these athlets beautiful. I like the pictures when they run sychronously from the start and when they accelerate then in the last round.
Fueled by Chipotle!
I've been ghosted. I see you working, Big Tech.
All the comments on Martinez...at the 2:40 mark in the race Simpson cut in on her, the push was warranted. At 3:38 she is trying to cut in from the middle of lane 1 to the inside at the start of the turn to gain momentum and possibly a step on those who stayed wide. She still had position and she got her heel clipped from behind by Johnson who at that point trailed by half a stride. It reminds me of the Decker-Budd incident in 84 with Decker trying to force her way on the inside, losing her balance when she caught Budd's heel being half a stride behind. You take that risk passing on the inside when someone is running in the middle of lane 1, especially when you have the metal curbing for someone to trip over in a stumble. Martinez's mistake is slowing it down too much between 900 and 1100. That left it open for the fast kickers like Shelby and Simpson to run up on her...she cannot outkick either of them with 200 or 250 to go. With no fall the best she does in that race is 4th. Had she kept it a bit faster 900 to 1100 I think she gets 3rd and maybe higher if someone boxes in Simpson or Shelby or they have to get around traffic on the outside of the final turn. At this level though in a slow pace elbows and pushes are to be expected.
ma ga nah pretty sure she's never outkicked shelby, Kate or Jenny. Sorry to burst your bubble there. The trip from behind was a mutual tumble. Martinez left it open for someone to come through, Johnson didn't get quite far enough in. The whole race the only person you see causing stumbles and bumps is Martinez. She does that in every race for no reason. Glad she fell. Maybe she'll stop throwing so many elbows
B Mart PR es apenas sub-4: 01, que es más lento que el décimo estadounidense más rápido, Regina Jacobs ... por más de medio segundo. El punto es que hay una diferencia entre un 'pequeño golpe' y jugar pinball humano cuando no tienes ninguna posibilidad de ganar.
initially there was a benefit of a doubt when that poor girl with flower in her hair got tripped at the olympic trials and brenda was involved. then another..hmm then another ..what? and another..what the hell?
How many more positive dope tests are to come before the Olympics. ?
Amazing.. what fantastic competition .. Great athletics showing and sharing some of the very best of the best.. thank you for this video. Well done Houlihan.. well done!
Change the title to 'Steroids' Wins 1500 meter national title
3:56 I hate to spot this but could that be a receding hair line???
brenda martinez, swatted at two separate girls who tried to pass her wtf?
Dopey dope dope dope
What a dope race huh
@@dylanballard9813 As dopey as it gets!!!
Another drug cheat busted ... we all knew she was doped and now we caught her. Only sad part is she is not banned for life ... a disgrace to athletics and another black mark on a ruined sport.
Sorry, i just started following running, rumors for years about doping ?
Shelbs has some really UNBELIEVABLE stamina!
Crazy outcome
And now she is banned for 4 years for using performance enhancing drugs.
Yup.
The sad thing is that this entire field is likely doped too
@@veganpotterthevegan False news. They are drug tested regularly
@@justinnibaur5271 Lance Armstrong and Mario Jones never tested positive and were tested hundreds of times throughout their careers. Anyone that things negative tests mean everyone is clean is absurdly naive
@@veganpotterthevegan The fact that you try to tarnish all of these athletes is just not right. They put the work in and deserve respect. Anyone that thinks all positives are correct is absurdly naive. I have much faith that nobody in this field has ever doped including shelby
Wow, Shelby is good! I've not heard of her before. She's going to be quite a force in the coming seasons.
Martinez is always getting falling and tripping
Everyone in here is busting Brenda's chops and blaming her when you know quite well she is not to be blamed for getting pushed around or spiked from the back. It's been going on for many years and races and the commentators and most people ignore how much the other runners hate on her. I wondered why!!!???
Nandrolone Kick 🦵 💉
Martinez is always right in the middle of some sketchy elbowing, pushing, and tripping...always. 1500/mile is always a distance where things can get hairy but with her it's like she's more into blocking than she is running. was not unhappy to see her go down. hope the other runner is alright.
Wow! Was that a rocket crossing the finishing line?
#9 Brenda Martinez was pushing shoving and caused a trip and fall. She deserved to fall and should have been DQed for contact. Cant stand runners like her. Spoil Sport.
Facts. I got second hand embarrassment
Nope. She stands her ground from people that cut here off.
Bullshit... The feet got Tangled and it was caused by that runner trying to pass inside.
@@Jumbosock almost no one cut her off, on two separate occasions and two separate athletes she bloody swatted at as they merely tried to pass her who tf does that?
So martinez holding her line in every instance is the problem? What race were you watching?
Somebody w that grace and power with all the hard work seems clean...hope they get it straight..and soon!
That's absurd. Drugs help people work harder. Every top athlete is on the edge of overtraining. Train harder and you get slower.
Shelby's explosive speed at the finish looks a little different in 2021
Looks literally the same. Dope was and is still in her system.
It's disgusting to watch this race knowing what Houlihan was probably doing to win it. Jenny is such a legend and deserved that win.
When she was skinny. Now Taco Bell fart fst.
Brenda Martinez is the Grayson Allen of Track and Field. #haveanicetrip, #BrendaMartinezTravelAgency #sneakytactics.
what a tough 1500 usually alittle more calm
That martinez girl is a jerk in the beginning
tinyJD you've never run competitively I guess...
@@Buzz_Kill71 ok frank.
🌯
Don't say who wins in the title.
HORRIBLE CAMERA USAGE. JUST AWFUL. Use ONE camera. Follow the runners. It couldn't be easier to NOT BLOW THIS.
I stand corrected.....on the very first trip....a runner moved inward to her left directly fouling Martinez and with the fall...usually the runner behind (Behind Martinez) causes the problem by tripping up the lead runner....so I offer her rye bread as a condolance prize!
Congrats.
Lots of shoving, and pushing.
The basic issue was that the 2 fastest runners chose to start at the back in a short race. Their moves to the front ended up making it a more aggressive race than necessary. Huge props to both of them, but no need to “play humble”-it just disrupts the race. Cheers
+David Shelby the Rocket chose to go to the back because she wanted to shadow Simpson, she made her move and stayed clear of everyone.
LMAO it's not called "playing humble" it's called staying out of traffic. Just because you're the fastest in the field doesn't mean you need to be at the front from the gun. That's not always a great tactic if you're a fast kicker. If you know you're faster on the last lap than everyone in front of you, why do you need to be up there? How many times did we see Mo Farah go straight to the back in a 5k/10k? And still win. The aggression came from Martinez shoving everyone
These announcers need to correct themselves with medals..... for all the people that have been banned..... Brenda mArtinez has a SILVER medal because of Savivova being banned .... very rude to not correct their status.
Wow!!!
receding hairline...she is the most manly looking one out there...coincidence?
laura muir did it in 4 minutes
Yes
That one girl who fell inward w about 300m to go....what a knucklehead.....she jus caused one other to trip putting her out and tripped 2 others in total of 3 tripping incidents....
Rye Cooder watch again. Blue & yellow stepped on brendas shoe/heel
I will check it out..thanks
Matthew Patino that's because Brenda came over way too soon. It's not that hard to see
+Jaymes That's not so, Brenda already had position on the inside, she did not impede anyone, the girl behind her clipped her, Brenda was in perfect position to strike with 300 to go, when you're bunched up like that things happen.
mstrunn I'm perfectly aware of things like that but if you watch it, down the back stretch she starts to go wide in lane 1 and leaves an opening for the girl to gain some ground on the inside. When they came to the turn (200 to go. Idk why everyone keeps saying 300) she came back inside right infront of the girl. The girl didn't change anything about how she was running on the inside, Brenda just cut over too close. It's obvious.
Welp... this video didn't age very well...
Where's Katelyn tuohy??
SP Sniper11 katelyn is in high school the women in this race are pros.
KT best 1500m is 4:14 while Shelby won in 4:05.
finished
Is Colleen in this race?
no
I hope she isn't peaking too early. That time would've taken the gold at Rio.
How many times was Martinez going to should check someone?
Ain't nobody worried about Russia #TEAMUSA BABY
Next year they will be at the Olympics,because the IOC lifted the ban,for Athletics,but they are still banned by IAAF. And with a year and half,the banned athletes will target it
Why isn't TH-cam promoting women who don't dope and are eligible to represent us. It's because Big Tech is left and Nike is left. The doping story has been suppressed. What are the facts? Pork burrito. Got it.
Shelby looks like she is modified! :)
Lol this aged well
Shelby was doping. (duh). Think about all of the competitors Shelby cheated out of wins and acclaim. Yet not one shred of remorse.
1:55 WTF is Houlihan trying to do to Martinez? Just crashing into her for no reason at all.
My girl Brenda had this. Damn hope she recovers good. Amazing athlete.
Brenda "el pinball humano" Martinez. Quando no hay posibilidad de ganar... jajaja
JustMe la raza has to keep trying to climb it’s a tight field no room for too much errors. She did the best she could.
@@psychopathetic69 Natalia Rodríguez, Nuria Fernández, Mayte Zúñiga...
JustMe we getting there.
Siempre me handan tumbando a Brenda Martínez en estados unidos que les pasa? Compite internacionalmente y no pasa nada. Compite en usa y de 3 carreras me la tumban 1 . Ya parenle
B Mart PR es solo sub-4: 01, que es más lento que el décimo estadounidense más rápido, Regina Jacobs ... *por más de medio segundo.* No hay posibilidad de ganar, salvo jugar "human piball"
Oh, no.. I hate that insidence.. Poor Martinez😭😭
Shelby is innocent and got screwed over. Don’t give up the fight Shelby! Lawyer up and prove your innocence!
She got caught, and there's a high probability other in this race were doing the same things, but were not caught. Remember, steroids don't make you run faster. They keep your body from being tore down after hard interval sessions So the fact she trained like an animal or not isn't even a question. She did. But others not on steroids tried to train as hard as she did and got injured or listened to their body and trained a level down and couldn't compete with her.
The shit she got popped for isn’t even what people take anymore when cheating in endurance sports. If she wanted to cheat she would have taken EPO not Nandrolone. False positives happen all the time.
Why is everyone wearing pantys 😂 jk
Caster Semenya chasing woman away from sport.