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Hi Dan, as a fellow vegetarian myself, this review is indeed helpful. At least I know what I would expect if I were to fly with China Southern. I wanna know though if you have flown with Air China in business? I could not find a video from your list. 😅
3:20 So basically, this is a trend in most narrow-body aircraft operated by Asian airlines, ideally the Airbus A320 family and Boeing 737s. This is done in the event of an equipment swap, such as going from a wide-body down to a narrow-body and vice versa, such that the airline does not have to issue new boarding passes to every single passenger and re-seat everyone.
China Southern and China Eastern are famous for bad in-flight dining experiences among big mainland carriers. Air China’s appetizer&dessert cart (similar to Lufthansa) and Xiamen Airline’s 3-star Michelin restaurant curated menu are definitely the top of the game right now. Sichuan Airlines and Hainan Airlines also have many special food options with regional flairs based their home city.
China flights do not offer row 4 due to local superstition. I flew a 1.5 hr flight on China Eastern business, the meal was phenomenal. They even offered slippers, not even air France 10 hr flights did that.
As someone who grew up in China and flew both domestically and internationally with many of their carriers I'm glad that they're finally catching up in terms of consistent quality and well delivered product. In the past and arguably still to an extent in the present, Chinese airlines were plagued with corporate & government connected corruption, as well as regionalism since it's a source of pride for the leaders of various cities and provinces (thus why you see different provincial airlines like Xiamen Airlines, Shanghai Airlines, Shenzhen Airlines, Hainan airlines, etc. today). The service has always been friendly and excellent as China places a heavy emphasis on the selection of their cabin crews, (some metrics going as far as having standards of body type, height, appearance, etc.) but a decade ago the language barrier was still an issue given many ground service crew and some flight crew didn't speak English that well and communicating with foreigners became very difficult. In addition, many aircraft were in a 2-2-2 business configuration. However, today, with upgraded products like what you just flew with a 1-2-1 configuration all with direct asile access, improved catering, and the same great hospitality, I have faith that Chinese airlines will be more attractive for flyers in the future. The main thing is for these airlines to improve their digital infrastructure (websites for ease of bookings by international travelers) and increased availability of their flights via reward flights which can make flying with them easier, as well as making themselves more accessible to a larger audience.
I got food poisoning at one of the Bali lounges…. It was a ‘great’ trip back home… luckily the flight attendants on SQ were very alert and kept one toilet always clear for me on the long haul from sin to zrh….
The China southern in flight meal doesn’t look as bad as you said. The taste suits southern Chinese taste rather than international is probably why … all the meals you showed just speaks comfort to me 🥹🥹 I would totally cry if an airline served red bean soup for me. The last time I took juneyao domestic and they served me congee for breakfast I cried bc i loved it😭
Just took the 787 from China southern last week. As you shared, service was amazing but catering can be better! Upgrade at check-in is worth it as well because it probably cost less than 500usd to J class.
I flew Chinese southern about a decade ago in coach and they were great. Great entertainment, great food, we got a stopover hotel and they got us through the airport to transport with great customer service even though they didn’t speak English. We had hot drinks the entire flights and as many snacks as we wanted. I’m glad to hear they are still doing well.
06:00 - Sorry to break it to you guys, but I think your flight attendant knew EXACTLY who you were and therefore behaved accordingly. Not trying to be a cynic here, but any airline worth their salt most definitely keeps a list of the more popular flight reviewers. The flight crew would have therefore known you would be on board and stepped up the service level in response. This is precisely what a good marketing department is supposed to do for their company.
@@NonstopDan I understand, but none of what you've said precludes my theory from being true. You could still be known to the crew even if you've never flown with China Southern before. All it takes is your name matching on their internal list of popular TH-cam flight reviewers when you check in, and the entire crew swings into action. Popularity cuts both ways my friend - it's not just us av-geeks that watch your videos, but the marketing departments of all the major airlines as well.
I don't think so, because air travel in China is not as common and normal as in the United States, so Chinese airlines pay much attention to the service of first class/business class. I have also flown in the first class of China Southern Airlines, just like the one in his video, and the service I received is the same. The flight attendants of Chinese airlines are required to be familiar with the passenger's information such as last name. In China, there is indeed a list called VIP and VVIP, but those are usually important government members who will enjoy extra special services on board.
I've actually been to that lounge in Guangzhou when we were flying to the Uk to see family for the first time in three years because covid restrictions had just lifted in China. We booked it as an extra to our regular economy ticket so we didn't get the full expereince. At the time (Chinese new years 2023) the airport was basically empty, restrictions had only been lifted for a month or two up until that point, and so there werent many staff. The lounge was basically empty, and no one was manning the bar, we asked someone and they said help yourself! Slept like a baby on the flight after 3 very boozy rum and cokes! Good times.
Hi Dan!! It's nice to see you tried out another Chinese airline, It is the best Chinese airline in my opinion. I only fly China southern in China because the on board service. Don't be so surprised, Chinese full service airline all provide slippers, magazines and meal option in business or first. I think it is because the competition is so tough in China so the airlines provide even more service. I wish you have a great experience with other China Southern flights. Fly safe!!
I've been following you for years and I'm really glad that Oskar is now a fixture on the channel. So much better seeing you do these as a couple. Oh, and while I am an omnivore I am always looking at menus to see what the vegetarian/vegan options are. I live in Portland, Oregon so there is a lot of focus here on plant-based eating. When you said you wanted vegetarian my first thought was, oh no, you needed to ask for vegan. Um, wait. This is China. No difference between the two. 🤣
Better flight than I had. I flew from Beijing to NYC. Everybody brought their own food and was stuffing themselves. Then we hit bad turbulence and they were all, I mean ALL, throwing up. It was absolutely mental.
@@composimple364and China Southern doesn’t even fly between Beijing and New York. They only fly to JFK from their Guangzhou hub. Currently only Air China flies to JFK from Beijing.
I remember if preorder food choice is not available, you can call to make sure to have something to eat. But this doesn’t work all the time. If they don’t have cooperate air food company, there’s no way they get special meals for you.
That review is so accurate. The reason that business class starts at 5 is because in Chinese 4 is written as 四 and pronounced “si”but there is 死 which pronounced in same way but means die. I personally experienced that economy row starts at something like seat 24 and not 1 that’s why the last row is 81
Did you know that most Chinese people who had took a China Southern flight ,especially domestic flights,called the Airline “Cheap Southern Airlines ”,not because it’s cheap,it’s the meal they provide. You can't say that the meal is eatable, you can only say that it's “hard to swallow”.
That 757 from China southern you showed in the video, is no registered G-LSAI! Flying around in the UK for holiday airlines Jet2. She is the oldest passenger 757 left in the world! Unfortunately she's being retired and scrapped in January.
Great to see an in depth video from you @NonstopDan as there were very few videos showing the business experience on China Southern. Would recommend for anyone going from UK to Eastern regions as a business ticket may only be a few hundred more than an economy ticket on another mainstream airline! I flew China Southern business class from the UK to Sydney in Nov last year and can attest to the wonderful service on board. The cabin crew on the way back recognised me from the trip on the way there and gave such a warm welcome! Food on board was also great. The lounge was also a treat for a long layover - tip: if you are there for a long stop, ask to use their rest rooms. My dad and I used these for 4hrs of sleep and it made the journey back to the UK so much more bearable! They clean and change the sheets between guests and it was the standard of a decent hotel in these rooms. You have to ask for them though, they’re not freely offered!
And you've not even tried the regular economy! Full meals on a 2 hour flight. Also allowed to bring 2 checked in bags plus a carry on and a backpack. Service with China Southern is insanely good!
oh man... you didn't see the bowl with the Ferrero Rocher? I travel through Guangzhou 3-4 times a year and I always bring home a few for the family.. special gift from overseas😂😂😂
something abt the color accent in the cabin looking like worn out, retro yellow hue just basically offwhite and beige with blue combination is so cool 😭
Great review, as always Dan! I started to fly China Southern regularly as its an affordable option in business class from kazakhstan to China. I also feel that the crew is very very lovely while the only downside is the meal and drink selection. Having flown all major carriers in business, i adore the China Southern crew which i would have never imagined saying. I received 3 warm towels from my flight from Shanghai to Beijing which is a record for me :-D
Hey Dan, great video! The service you got is the normal in business class in China i.e greeting by name, storing your luggage, opening your slippers etc. Hainan Airlines and Shenzhen Airlines have the best service in my opinion. But hopefully you won’t travel any more Chinese business class in the future because once you get used to that service (spoiled) you’ll never want to travel western airlines again😂. Ha det gott! // A Swede in China
This is crazy. I live in Guangzhou, and had a trip to the UK earlier this year. I converted taking my first ever business class flight, so tried to look on TH-cam to see if it would be worth it. That led me to subscribing to you! And when I did get the flight, I also got seat 11a 😂
Great video content of the airline that I've been flying since I was a kid. It's a pity that their a380s were retired under the strike of covid, but fortunately their 787-9s and a350s are in great position and definitely a huge upgrade of their fleet. I nearly had a chance to fly their 757 but it was swapped to a 737 the day before departure😭.
Just flown china eastern return business London - Sydney. Incredibly good experience. Food very good as long as you aren't vegetarian as there are no standard options. Entertainment options are poor but otherwise everything on board is great. Only other downs is they never answer any of their phones.
Ever since taking Southern Airline for short haul flight, I've been constantly going back to them for my flights. I'll still choose them over Malaysia Airlines (which is what I usually take) and Singapore Airlines.
Wow, I played cricket for Forest Row CC for two seasons (last year of that tenure i was captain of the Sunday seconds and we started the ad hoc Saturday team which became part of the development league) and went to cub camp at Broadstone Warren twice too as a kid when I was in London. Very good video Dan. The Chinese carriers are really getting more and more competitive. But the food is not the best.
Unfotunately I was served by a very lazy Southern China crew member a few weeks ago. In short she played tricks so some passengers didn't order drinks and she left out cake and icecream. I found out because later I saw what others were eating. And this is business class. I do agree with Dan there are many great things about this airline. Pricing is hard to beat.
My dad had a really bad experience with China Southern where my dad was not given his luggage due to "security reasons" and was still in China when he arrived in his destination country. Because of this, he only got his carry-on. We had thought that maybe they only said that it was because of "security reasons" but in actuality, they had maybe forgot to put it in the plane. Either way, really bad experience. It was a 2-bag luggage and thankfully, nothing inside the luggage went missing when they delivered it back to my dad.
Good thing they removed the cell phone ban in 2018. Back in 2017 when I flew China Southern, I wasn't allowed to switch on my phone at all, not even in flight mode.
I flew business class China Eastern over Easter and the food was actually pretty decent. Printed menus with “western” and traditional options. Much better than what you saw on China Southern. I’m flying China Southern in a couple weeks on the same jets. Looking forward to comparing. (6H & 6C) How long was your layover? They suggest they have some easy pass thru for connections but if you have to go back through security… that doesn’t seem efficient. Thanks Dan!
I flew with CS before, they were super nice with my kids, service and attitude was excellent too. However, you were right on their food, that they should put more effort on it.
The meal with Qatar Airways was weird too from DOH to MIA, we left at 2am, and land in Miami at 4:30pm. The last meal they offered was also a "breakfast" lol
I recently took a Turkish airlines flight at the back of the business cabin. They'd go back to refill welcome drink chioces and bread choices often, so I always have the full array of choices even though I was at the back of the cabin.
Dan ur literally my favorite to watch always enjoyable always want to fly on the airlines u give great reviews to ill definitely add this airline to my list of lists
Dan, I lived in Guangzhou my whole life and flown CZ more times than I could remember, and their services and standards have been on a down slope, China Southern airlines are considered the King of Low Cost Airlines in China now
Dan, you inspired me to take a trip from from Taipei to Doha in China Southern business class. I'm in Doha now. The flight attendant on my flight from Taipei also took the slippers out of the bag and laid them out. On the long haul, the purser insisted that I put on the slippers right away because they would be more comfortable. The food was pretty good, better than Polaris and not quite as good as Cathay Pacific. I hope we can meet up in Taipei some time!
I fly China Southern a lot and i think their service is really good for the price. They have some Narrow bodys with only 4 seats in Business class and they feel so premium compare to all other airlines some high end like Qatar.
Im filipino and my favorite ones are china southern and cathay. These two chinese airlines are the best! Specially southern coz its affordable and i was blown with their service.
As a Chinese living in America, I feel like Chinese carriers are a bit like American carriers. They are all too big to be sophisticated and cater specifically to their domestic customers. For example my dad would choose Chinese carrier every day in his life because he knows there is always hot tea on board. Their business model is just too different from international carriers such as Emirates or Turkish Airlines which serve mainly transiting customers.
I think that makes a lot of sense. Even on international routes American carriers do not compete on service, they compete on a seamless connection to a US domestic flight with not too long of a layover. I imagine Chinese carriers operate in a similar way
Must have been lucky flying china southern businessa few years ago on Alk Syd (or Mel cant be sure) Great steak meal served, as good as what we got on Ek, though the wine list was lacking. The price was way less than Ek and Sq, and for a 3.5hr flight, the seats were fine. Based on what we expected, one of my favourite flight 😅
24:43 Dan it’s crazy I’ve been binging some of your old videos and you’ve been served that identical vegetarian entree on JAL and SQ and you haven’t loved it any time 😭
Great video once again, thanks for bring us with your journey. Look forward to your Guangzhou videos one day, my new home next year moving from Toronto. Please visit various China cities as I think you would enjoy.
Service tends to be amazing in CN carriers and is very personable. At times too much especially for elite members as they are big complainers lol. But so far I'd say hardware is often upsetting, and sometimes the food is bad. I am amazed by a good English-speaking crew on a CN flight as well: I have been translating for them all the time. They tend to thank me profusely and try to offer me something (i.e. extra bottles of water, food, souvenir) haha
I kind of like the vintage look of chinese airlines. It's a good mix of not too vintage but not super sleak and modern either. It's just a nice in between.
I can’t say I’ve ever had a bad experience on a Chinese airline (and I’ve flown them all more or less), and had many excellent flights. Low-cost airlines like Urumqi Air are not great - but China Southern, China Eastern, Xiamen Air, Hainan, Tianjin… have all been excellent to me. One of the best short haul business class flights I’ve ever taken was on Shenzhen Airlines. And domestically within China in particular - business class flights are cheap to compete with the high speed rail and punch well above their weight. Service is universally great, though mistranslations do occur which makes everything more amusing. Food is almost always oriented towards Chinese tastes, but what they serve is usually not a bad representation of the dish. And there are often various cultural quirks that can seem odd. HNA group for example very rarely turns off the seatbelt sign on long haul flights, so you just kind of have to know when to ignore it.
I experienced absolutely outstanding service by two FAs on a Saudia flight from Munich to Riad. After my flight I sent an email to Saudia to compliment them on these two exceptional members of staff. Sadly I didn't get a reply.
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Hi Dan, as a fellow vegetarian myself, this review is indeed helpful. At least I know what I would expect if I were to fly with China Southern. I wanna know though if you have flown with Air China in business? I could not find a video from your list. 😅
Given that Saily is owned by Nord vpn, which does not work in China, I'm really doubtful that Saily will work in China as claimed.
Yo, is that Sam Chui with you on the China Southern bus !?
Thanks for giving the flight attendant such great feedback - it’s nice to see such good service 😊
3:20 So basically, this is a trend in most narrow-body aircraft operated by Asian airlines, ideally the Airbus A320 family and Boeing 737s. This is done in the event of an equipment swap, such as going from a wide-body down to a narrow-body and vice versa, such that the airline does not have to issue new boarding passes to every single passenger and re-seat everyone.
China Southern and China Eastern are famous for bad in-flight dining experiences among big mainland carriers. Air China’s appetizer&dessert cart (similar to Lufthansa) and Xiamen Airline’s 3-star Michelin restaurant curated menu are definitely the top of the game right now. Sichuan Airlines and Hainan Airlines also have many special food options with regional flairs based their home city.
My personal choice of in-flight F&B and cabin service would certainly be Xiamen Airlines though its hardware in cabin is SHID. 😅
CE's International flights especially on the 777 and 787 has some of the most insane economic meals I've ever eaten so it's not that bad.
the hilarious part about this is that xiamenair is majority owned by china southern
I find China Eastern in flight service to be way better than Xiamen airline..
In fact, on mainland airlines, you may receive intensive service if you’re white
Other airlines: paint a couple of their fleets in retro livery as a promotional strategy
CA and CZ: *entire fleet wears retro livery*
And MU at past.
but CZ B787
She is selling SMILE😊
As someone who often flies chinese airlines i am SO glad you finally reviewed them again
China flights do not offer row 4 due to local superstition. I flew a 1.5 hr flight on China Eastern business, the meal was phenomenal. They even offered slippers, not even air France 10 hr flights did that.
As someone who grew up in China and flew both domestically and internationally with many of their carriers I'm glad that they're finally catching up in terms of consistent quality and well delivered product. In the past and arguably still to an extent in the present, Chinese airlines were plagued with corporate & government connected corruption, as well as regionalism since it's a source of pride for the leaders of various cities and provinces (thus why you see different provincial airlines like Xiamen Airlines, Shanghai Airlines, Shenzhen Airlines, Hainan airlines, etc. today). The service has always been friendly and excellent as China places a heavy emphasis on the selection of their cabin crews, (some metrics going as far as having standards of body type, height, appearance, etc.) but a decade ago the language barrier was still an issue given many ground service crew and some flight crew didn't speak English that well and communicating with foreigners became very difficult. In addition, many aircraft were in a 2-2-2 business configuration. However, today, with upgraded products like what you just flew with a 1-2-1 configuration all with direct asile access, improved catering, and the same great hospitality, I have faith that Chinese airlines will be more attractive for flyers in the future. The main thing is for these airlines to improve their digital infrastructure (websites for ease of bookings by international travelers) and increased availability of their flights via reward flights which can make flying with them easier, as well as making themselves more accessible to a larger audience.
Well said
I got food poisoning at one of the Bali lounges…. It was a ‘great’ trip back home… luckily the flight attendants on SQ were very alert and kept one toilet always clear for me on the long haul from sin to zrh….
So sorry to hear that!
That’s great care and service. Kudos to the crew
I can literally think of nothing worse than food poisoning on a plane 😵💫😩
Omg
@@kerriew3293 Especially on a 13 hrs one…. But the crew was really super caring 👍
The China southern in flight meal doesn’t look as bad as you said. The taste suits southern Chinese taste rather than international is probably why … all the meals you showed just speaks comfort to me 🥹🥹 I would totally cry if an airline served red bean soup for me. The last time I took juneyao domestic and they served me congee for breakfast I cried bc i loved it😭
Definitely. The food looks excellent for me.
Just took the 787 from China southern last week. As you shared, service was amazing but catering can be better! Upgrade at check-in is worth it as well because it probably cost less than 500usd to J class.
I flew Chinese southern about a decade ago in coach and they were great. Great entertainment, great food, we got a stopover hotel and they got us through the airport to transport with great customer service even though they didn’t speak English. We had hot drinks the entire flights and as many snacks as we wanted. I’m glad to hear they are still doing well.
That’s awesome to hear!
06:00 - Sorry to break it to you guys, but I think your flight attendant knew EXACTLY who you were and therefore behaved accordingly. Not trying to be a cynic here, but any airline worth their salt most definitely keeps a list of the more popular flight reviewers. The flight crew would have therefore known you would be on board and stepped up the service level in response. This is precisely what a good marketing department is supposed to do for their company.
Considering I had never flown on China Southern before, this feels highly unlikely. The crew also gave no indication they knew I'd be making a video.
@@NonstopDan I understand, but none of what you've said precludes my theory from being true. You could still be known to the crew even if you've never flown with China Southern before. All it takes is your name matching on their internal list of popular TH-cam flight reviewers when you check in, and the entire crew swings into action. Popularity cuts both ways my friend - it's not just us av-geeks that watch your videos, but the marketing departments of all the major airlines as well.
well said
I don't think so, because air travel in China is not as common and normal as in the United States, so Chinese airlines pay much attention to the service of first class/business class. I have also flown in the first class of China Southern Airlines, just like the one in his video, and the service I received is the same. The flight attendants of Chinese airlines are required to be familiar with the passenger's information such as last name. In China, there is indeed a list called VIP and VVIP, but those are usually important government members who will enjoy extra special services on board.
TH-cam is not even available in China… 👀
I've actually been to that lounge in Guangzhou when we were flying to the Uk to see family for the first time in three years because covid restrictions had just lifted in China. We booked it as an extra to our regular economy ticket so we didn't get the full expereince. At the time (Chinese new years 2023) the airport was basically empty, restrictions had only been lifted for a month or two up until that point, and so there werent many staff. The lounge was basically empty, and no one was manning the bar, we asked someone and they said help yourself! Slept like a baby on the flight after 3 very boozy rum and cokes! Good times.
Will try next time Southern Airlines when fly to China , , thanks for the good video and advice👍☺
I'm impressed by the attentive crew on both of your flights.
Hi Dan!! It's nice to see you tried out another Chinese airline, It is the best Chinese airline in my opinion. I only fly China southern in China because the on board service. Don't be so surprised, Chinese full service airline all provide slippers, magazines and meal option in business or first. I think it is because the competition is so tough in China so the airlines provide even more service. I wish you have a great experience with other China Southern flights. Fly safe!!
When is the Qatar Airways A380 First Class Review coming out?
☝🏽 what he said
@@alex-macherasOmg I have been waiting for that Alex and Dan video for ages!!! And it still hasn't shown up😢😢
OMG I’ve never been so quick to click on a Nonstop Dan video 😂
Guangzhao is actually where China Southern is based explaining why there are so many China Southern planes and whole area dedicated to their airline.
I've been following you for years and I'm really glad that Oskar is now a fixture on the channel. So much better seeing you do these as a couple. Oh, and while I am an omnivore I am always looking at menus to see what the vegetarian/vegan options are. I live in Portland, Oregon so there is a lot of focus here on plant-based eating. When you said you wanted vegetarian my first thought was, oh no, you needed to ask for vegan. Um, wait. This is China. No difference between the two. 🤣
Thanks so much Kristin! 🙏
Better flight than I had. I flew from Beijing to NYC. Everybody brought their own food and was stuffing themselves. Then we hit bad turbulence and they were all, I mean ALL, throwing up. It was absolutely mental.
Well none of that is related to the airline
@@composimple364and China Southern doesn’t even fly between Beijing and New York. They only fly to JFK from their Guangzhou hub. Currently only Air China flies to JFK from Beijing.
we liked the landing candy so much we saved the wrapper and then bought it in bulk before heading home from China!
I remember if preorder food choice is not available, you can call to make sure to have something to eat. But this doesn’t work all the time. If they don’t have cooperate air food company, there’s no way they get special meals for you.
That review is so accurate. The reason that business class starts at 5 is because in Chinese 4 is written as 四 and pronounced “si”but there is 死 which pronounced in same way but means die. I personally experienced that economy row starts at something like seat 24 and not 1 that’s why the last row is 81
Did you know that most Chinese people who had took a China Southern flight ,especially domestic flights,called the Airline “Cheap Southern Airlines ”,not because it’s cheap,it’s the meal they provide. You can't say that the meal is eatable, you can only say that it's “hard to swallow”.
As a Chinese, I would like to describe China eastern-the largest low cost airline in the world😂
That 757 from China southern you showed in the video, is no registered G-LSAI! Flying around in the UK for holiday airlines Jet2. She is the oldest passenger 757 left in the world! Unfortunately she's being retired and scrapped in January.
Great to see an in depth video from you @NonstopDan as there were very few videos showing the business experience on China Southern. Would recommend for anyone going from UK to Eastern regions as a business ticket may only be a few hundred more than an economy ticket on another mainstream airline!
I flew China Southern business class from the UK to Sydney in Nov last year and can attest to the wonderful service on board. The cabin crew on the way back recognised me from the trip on the way there and gave such a warm welcome! Food on board was also great. The lounge was also a treat for a long layover - tip: if you are there for a long stop, ask to use their rest rooms. My dad and I used these for 4hrs of sleep and it made the journey back to the UK so much more bearable! They clean and change the sheets between guests and it was the standard of a decent hotel in these rooms. You have to ask for them though, they’re not freely offered!
24:05 never thought id see the day lunchly gets mentioned in a nonstop dan video
And you've not even tried the regular economy! Full meals on a 2 hour flight. Also allowed to bring 2 checked in bags plus a carry on and a backpack. Service with China Southern is insanely good!
I have been living in the US for 12 years now and I just saw my home in GZ at 10:53 How cool is that
oh man... you didn't see the bowl with the Ferrero Rocher? I travel through Guangzhou 3-4 times a year and I always bring home a few for the family.. special gift from overseas😂😂😂
something abt the color accent in the cabin looking like worn out, retro yellow hue just basically offwhite and beige with blue combination is so cool 😭
Great review, as always Dan!
I started to fly China Southern regularly as its an affordable option in business class from kazakhstan to China. I also feel that the crew is very very lovely while the only downside is the meal and drink selection.
Having flown all major carriers in business, i adore the China Southern crew which i would have never imagined saying. I received 3 warm towels from my flight from Shanghai to Beijing which is a record for me :-D
Hey Dan, great video! The service you got is the normal in business class in China i.e greeting by name, storing your luggage, opening your slippers etc. Hainan Airlines and Shenzhen Airlines have the best service in my opinion. But hopefully you won’t travel any more Chinese business class in the future because once you get used to that service (spoiled) you’ll never want to travel western airlines again😂. Ha det gott! // A Swede in China
This is crazy. I live in Guangzhou, and had a trip to the UK earlier this year. I converted taking my first ever business class flight, so tried to look on TH-cam to see if it would be worth it. That led me to subscribing to you! And when I did get the flight, I also got seat 11a 😂
wish you a good flight
Great video content of the airline that I've been flying since I was a kid. It's a pity that their a380s were retired under the strike of covid, but fortunately their 787-9s and a350s are in great position and definitely a huge upgrade of their fleet.
I nearly had a chance to fly their 757 but it was swapped to a 737 the day before departure😭.
I flew China Eastern a year prior to the pandemic.
I was on BC from BKK/PVG/LAX ( might be ORD )
It was impressive 😊
Okay, that was a SMOOTH transition to the ad!
Just flown china eastern return business London - Sydney. Incredibly good experience. Food very good as long as you aren't vegetarian as there are no standard options. Entertainment options are poor but otherwise everything on board is great. Only other downs is they never answer any of their phones.
I flew AirChina from Hanoi to Beijing, one of the best flights I've been on!
Ever since taking Southern Airline for short haul flight, I've been constantly going back to them for my flights. I'll still choose them over Malaysia Airlines (which is what I usually take) and Singapore Airlines.
Wow, I played cricket for Forest Row CC for two seasons (last year of that tenure i was captain of the Sunday seconds and we started the ad hoc Saturday team which became part of the development league) and went to cub camp at Broadstone Warren twice too as a kid when I was in London. Very good video Dan. The Chinese carriers are really getting more and more competitive. But the food is not the best.
Unfotunately I was served by a very lazy Southern China crew member a few weeks ago. In short she played tricks so some passengers didn't order drinks and she left out cake and icecream. I found out because later I saw what others were eating. And this is business class. I do agree with Dan there are many great things about this airline. Pricing is hard to beat.
Cool story. That livery IS beautiful!
Amazing bro!
My dad had a really bad experience with China Southern where my dad was not given his luggage due to "security reasons" and was still in China when he arrived in his destination country. Because of this, he only got his carry-on. We had thought that maybe they only said that it was because of "security reasons" but in actuality, they had maybe forgot to put it in the plane. Either way, really bad experience. It was a 2-bag luggage and thankfully, nothing inside the luggage went missing when they delivered it back to my dad.
Good thing they removed the cell phone ban in 2018. Back in 2017 when I flew China Southern, I wasn't allowed to switch on my phone at all, not even in flight mode.
I’m curious why was there a ban? Seems weird 😅
@@chloeelizabeth2174 That's what I kept asking myself every minute of my 13 hour flight in a middle seat with a broken entertainment screen. 😂
Its because of the samsung Galaxy note 7 incident in late 2016 they banned to activate the phone in flight.
She is selling SMILE😊
I flew business class China Eastern over Easter and the food was actually pretty decent. Printed menus with “western” and traditional options. Much better than what you saw on China Southern.
I’m flying China Southern in a couple weeks on the same jets. Looking forward to comparing. (6H & 6C)
How long was your layover? They suggest they have some easy pass thru for connections but if you have to go back through security… that doesn’t seem efficient.
Thanks Dan!
Taxing in Guangzhou always takes time, last time I arrived in Guangzhou the plane was taxi for like an hour and I miss my train😂
I flew with CS before, they were super nice with my kids, service and attitude was excellent too. However, you were right on their food, that they should put more effort on it.
The meal with Qatar Airways was weird too from DOH to MIA, we left at 2am, and land in Miami at 4:30pm. The last meal they offered was also a "breakfast" lol
You should try some of the intercontinental routes on China Eastern’s A350 or Hainan Airlines 787!😂
I recently took a Turkish airlines flight at the back of the business cabin. They'd go back to refill welcome drink chioces and bread choices often, so I always have the full array of choices even though I was at the back of the cabin.
Sounds like you had a great flight!
@NonstopDan I did 😊
What a wonderful flight to just read a book. Love it. 💙
Dan ur literally my favorite to watch always enjoyable always want to fly on the airlines u give great reviews to ill definitely add this airline to my list of lists
Good childhood story about the Chinese model planes. The 757 was well acclaimed in the 90s. I used to run a fleet of toy TWA planes in first grade.
Dan, I lived in Guangzhou my whole life and flown CZ more times than I could remember, and their services and standards have been on a down slope, China Southern airlines are considered the King of Low Cost Airlines in China now
Dan, you inspired me to take a trip from from Taipei to Doha in China Southern business class. I'm in Doha now. The flight attendant on my flight from Taipei also took the slippers out of the bag and laid them out. On the long haul, the purser insisted that I put on the slippers right away because they would be more comfortable. The food was pretty good, better than Polaris and not quite as good as Cathay Pacific. I hope we can meet up in Taipei some time!
That's so awesome to hear! Glad I could inspire you to try something new.
Tbf, I'd happily have breakfast food for any meal of the day, so kudos to CS for that.
Dan- the shirt you’re wearing works great on you! Not that it’s the point of your videos but I feel like you’ve really stepped up your wardrobe!
Thank you for saying that!
I fly China Southern a lot and i think their service is really good for the price. They have some Narrow bodys with only 4 seats in Business class and they feel so premium compare to all other airlines some high end like Qatar.
Im filipino and my favorite ones are china southern and cathay. These two chinese airlines are the best! Specially southern coz its affordable and i was blown with their service.
As a Chinese living in America, I feel like Chinese carriers are a bit like American carriers. They are all too big to be sophisticated and cater specifically to their domestic customers. For example my dad would choose Chinese carrier every day in his life because he knows there is always hot tea on board. Their business model is just too different from international carriers such as Emirates or Turkish Airlines which serve mainly transiting customers.
I think that makes a lot of sense. Even on international routes American carriers do not compete on service, they compete on a seamless connection to a US domestic flight with not too long of a layover. I imagine Chinese carriers operate in a similar way
You're approaching 1 million!!! 🎉🥳🎉🥳
I know! I'm so excited 🙏
China Southern is my second favorite airline!
Must have been lucky flying china southern businessa few years ago on Alk Syd (or Mel cant be sure) Great steak meal served, as good as what we got on Ek, though the wine list was lacking. The price was way less than Ek and Sq, and for a 3.5hr flight, the seats were fine. Based on what we expected, one of my favourite flight 😅
Some airlines reserve row 1-4 only for first class seats, business always starts from 5.
Thanks for this lovely video
we love a retro stripe ✈️
24:43 Dan it’s crazy I’ve been binging some of your old videos and you’ve been served that identical vegetarian entree on JAL and SQ and you haven’t loved it any time 😭
I love your videos ❤ as always W vid
Thank you!
Great video once again, thanks for bring us with your journey. Look forward to your Guangzhou videos one day, my new home next year moving from Toronto. Please visit various China cities as I think you would enjoy.
I'm mesmerized by the clouds on your trip. Also 10:45 that comic character on the pen is famous in Asia, it's Japan's "Crayon Shin Chan".
O’ been waiting for this review for months!
I love there grape juice, get it every time, even in prem econ
I was in seat 11a
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@NonstopDan I did!
CZ's Lounge in CAN was the best afforable lounge I have ever seen.
The population of Guangzhou is just under 15 million, loved the review again though. Keep it up. Plus loved the Gudie map in the lounge.
Service tends to be amazing in CN carriers and is very personable. At times too much especially for elite members as they are big complainers lol. But so far I'd say hardware is often upsetting, and sometimes the food is bad. I am amazed by a good English-speaking crew on a CN flight as well: I have been translating for them all the time. They tend to thank me profusely and try to offer me something (i.e. extra bottles of water, food, souvenir) haha
omg that’s my favourite amusement park growing up 10:56 😂
China Southern, always the best service. And before 2020, they had some of the best prices.
Arrived at the airport the day the new terminal was opened, everything was new, even all the clothing of staff from police through to the cleaners!
No locked 787 windows - always a good reason to fly an airline 👍🏻
Thanks for this vlog. Wow. Fly safe. Have an amazing week. Cheers. 👍🛫🛬
Thanks, you too!
@ I appreciate it. Thank you.
I kind of like the vintage look of chinese airlines. It's a good mix of not too vintage but not super sleak and modern either. It's just a nice in between.
you had me at ABSOLUTELY SLAPS
The pen Rebecca gave you is a Japanese cartoon character, Shinchan, a very naughty yet innocent little boy.
Awesome review Dan!!!! It was weird seeing the Lufthansa A350 in Guangzhou.
Everything about service in China is impressive
Nice! I've always wanted to see what inside the China Southen VIP bus is like!
I can’t say I’ve ever had a bad experience on a Chinese airline (and I’ve flown them all more or less), and had many excellent flights. Low-cost airlines like Urumqi Air are not great - but China Southern, China Eastern, Xiamen Air, Hainan, Tianjin… have all been excellent to me. One of the best short haul business class flights I’ve ever taken was on Shenzhen Airlines.
And domestically within China in particular - business class flights are cheap to compete with the high speed rail and punch well above their weight. Service is universally great, though mistranslations do occur which makes everything more amusing.
Food is almost always oriented towards Chinese tastes, but what they serve is usually not a bad representation of the dish. And there are often various cultural quirks that can seem odd. HNA group for example very rarely turns off the seatbelt sign on long haul flights, so you just kind of have to know when to ignore it.
Fascinating. Show us more of these lesser-known airlines.
China Southern is the largest airline in Asia, both in fleet size and passengers carried.
a lesser-known airline with more than 900 aircrafts = =😅
this video has just been so fulfilling to watch haha, love your videos :) !
Thanks so much 🙏
one thing I really liked about china southern air economy was their tea. It was very good chinese tea, way better than i ever had with another airline
I experienced absolutely outstanding service by two FAs on a Saudia flight from Munich to Riad. After my flight I sent an email to Saudia to compliment them on these two exceptional members of staff. Sadly I didn't get a reply.
I liked the food on Air China. Also free WiFi. And they told me 3 times to use the slippers...and they were right.
Try Starlux or Cathay Aria next :)
Nice work lads. Love Rebecca 😊
She's amazing!
Hey Dan! Love your videos…I note you’ve commented on some rubbish OJ on a few flights, is there a standout airline that has GOOD OJ?
Great video!!!!