I love my SL and truly appreciate you dedicating a show to it. Looking forward to Part II. Would love to see you discuss recommended accessories; preferred settings for various types of shoots; third-party glass; recommended maintenance (and preferred methods/products); and whether you use filters (e.g., UV) on your SL glass. Thanks again!
Great presentation. For one who uses his current M lenses on both a M and SL2, I’d like some detailed hints on using the M lenses on the SL2. Also looking forward to a program on the M10 Monochrom.
I had to come back and say THANK YOU!! After watching this I passed by leica SOHO while working in NYC a few weeks ago just. Get a better look at the lenses and they actually had an SL2!! Picked up the 24-90 yesterday and I’m very impressed!! Coming from nikon this quite an experience! Hopefully I can purchase some Lenses from you in the future. What possibly doing a deep dive into the leica sl2 menu system?
Your welcome! The SL2 is quite an amazing camera. Glad you got some hands-on time with it. We've considered a menu walk-through but it might be too long to cover everything. Are there any areas in particular that you think we should address?
Thanks to all of you for a fantastic presentation. What are your thoughts on 50mm primes for the SL2 - specifically the Summicron SL vs the Summilux SL vs the M 0.95 Noctilux? Can the Noctilux resolve satisfactorily at 47MP? Which option is your favourite?
Enjoyed this. I have an SL and shoot manual M lenses exclusively. I always learn something new. My only observation is I don’t agree that M glass on SL doesn’t out perform SL glass....It’s my opinion the opposite is true.
Yes, I want a macro lens for the SL2. I have been using a Leica R APO Macro 100 /2.8 and the macro adapter with M lenses. Although the macro adapter with the 50 mm Noctilux is a lot of fun, I will purchase a macro SL lens on the day it is announced!
Thanks, this was very informative. My question is, does IBIS on the SL2 work on 3rd party lenses? I shoot with Canon tilt shift lenses on the SL2 often and am never sure whether IBIS is active? Can I set a lens profile for them? Also, I’m a strobist so definitely would like Leica to cooperate with Profoto for HSS. Looking forward to part 2!
Thank you guys! I'm really fascinated by the specs and always wanted to own a Leica camera but it has to justify it cost for my business workflow. Now, I feel I'm sold with the Leica SL2 but wanted to know about the tethering options. I work with Capture One and I don't know if there's any other software that can compete with it. Don't suggest Lightroom please as it's so slow for me in comparison to Capture One. Thanks!
Well, I have to suggest Lightroom as Leica and Adobe work closely together to optimize the processing of the files and this is what I use myself. But.... of course you can use Capture One and many do. To do so, you'll need to run Leica's standalone Image Shuttle software to control the camera and have incoming files go into a watched C1 hot folder. C1 then picks up the images automatically. We actually did a video on this 4 years ago: th-cam.com/video/GgLqb5veYPo/w-d-xo.html
Very informative session. Thank you. I have a question regarding charging the SL2 using a power bank to its USB c port. I have attempted to charge the camera using a power bank and both a USB A to USB c and a USB c to USB c cable but have found the camera does not draw enough power using a USB c port on the power bank ( I tried using two different power banks) Furthermore, if I use a USB c power adapter, it will draw enough to charge the camera. Now, if I use a USB A to USB c (camera side) adapter, it does does draw enough to charge the camera battery, same as using a laptop computer, a USB A power adapter and/or a USB A port in a power bank. Any idea why this is? Are there any restrictions with charging the camera using a USB c to USB c cable and a power bank? Also, could you tell me what the color and frequency of the blinking led lights in the camera mean when charging the camera via a cable. Thanks again. Look forward to your reply and/or tune in to your part 2 in the SL 2 series.
I also have few questions regarding the S lenses on the SL2. Can you confirm the Panasonic cameras not offering autofocus using the S lenses with the S-L adapter? The S lens autofocus was extremely slow and hunted a lot on the SL. I have heard it got much faster with the SL2 almost comparable to the S3 focusing performance. Can you confirm this, and show us how much better it got? Always, appreciate great content and information!!
Don't think there are many - a few I found: Panasonic Lumix S 28-200mm F4-7.1 Macro O.I.S./ Panasonic Lumix S 24-105mm f4 Macro O.I.S L-Mount lens / Panasonic Lumix S 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 Macro OIS L-Mount lens...
I’m currently adapting my M lenses to a Sony a7riii. Will I see a big difference in rendering/colors if I adapt to the SL2? Thanks for the great content!
Yes, absolutely! While no one argues the optical prowess of Leica glass, too little credit is given to their digital bodies. Absolutely stunning color, tonality, and file malleability. Also, Sony mirrorless bodies don't usually work very well with Leica M lenses wider than 35mm due to sensor design.
Fantastic presentation! Can you discuss in Ep 2 - the focal distance scale on top of SL2. I have a Leica 24-90 and in the “Feet” setting, it seems to be way off. When I focus at 10ft away - it reads back 1.0ft. Focus .87ft Front .77ft. @ F8 on 35mm. ?? If I switch to m. It reads 3.1m Back 2.7m Focus 2.4m front. F8 @ 35mm. Can’t find anyone that knows what’s going on.
Not yet. We have compared the 50 Summilux-SL against the 50mm APO-Summiron-M though. See the full review of the 50 SL here: www.reddotforum.com/content/2017/03/leica-summilux-sl-50mm-f1-4-asph-review-a-new-standard/
So, when setting the SL to MF for BBF, pressing the joystick activates AF-S or AF-C? If you continue pressing the joystick does it continue focusing? I'm currently using adapted M-glass but am considering an AF solution.
You can select either AF-S or AF-C for back button focus activation. In AF-S continuing to press after focus lock won't do anything. In AF-C, the camera will continue to track focus continuously until you let go. Unless you have a specific reason for continuous tracking, we prefer AF-S (single).
WOuld it be a good idea to put tape over the microphone holes on top of the Leica SL? I never use the camera for video, but it often rains or snows here.
Not necessary. The SL, SL2 and SL2-S are fully weather sealed. The microphone holes have a membrane inside that prevents water from entering the camera. You're good to go in the rain and snow.
I missed the live feed, yet in regards to back button focusing I hope Leica in the future will support this feature using Panasonic L Mount glass. Currently on my SL2 with a Panasonic L Mount lens MF is grayed out though you can engage MF using the clutch on the lens yet this completely disables AF
As an old timer with an M3 outfit, I was wondering if my old M glass would work. Specifically, the 21mm Super Angulon, 35mm f2.8 Summaron with bug eyes and 50mm Dual Range Summicron? I have an M8 that the 21 just works with, even though it won’t meter. Will the SL with converter handle these old classics? Thanks!
You talked very little about ISO noise. At what setting should we be concerned possible image quality degradation? In order to use high speed shutter for limiting motion blur and open aperture for depth of field, how high can I go safely with ISO? 1600 or can I set it 6400?
We mentioned this in subsequent videos, but I published a comprehensive article/resource for Lightroom presets for every Leica camera going back to the M9. Check it out: www.reddotforum.com/content/2020/04/lightroom-presets-for-leica-cameras/
I would like to ask on the lowlight performance between the SL and the SL2 hence the SL2 has more pixels but does it performs on lowlight situations? Should i get the Sl as i shoot a lot of low light environment? I have mix feelings on this topic as Sl2 has new technology inside but the mp is just to big for my kind of shooting. Please advice. Thanks.
I have the same question and wonder why it is not been addressed. I think the low light performance of SL2 is a crucial issue. Steve Huff says it is not good. Let’s see what is experience of others.
In your next session, could you please discuss how to power the SL2 with external power, via the USB-C port. I often do long videos where my 2 batteries aren’t enough and I’ve heard in forums there’s a way to do this. I’ve had success charging the battery in-camera, which only seems to work when the camera power is off. Turning camera power on seems to disconnect the USB-C power to the camera.
as far as macro goes, you also forgot that you can have a sl-R adaptor, and add the bellows set for the R series, making ANY R lens a macro lens, say the 135mm.
Hello David, enjoy your talks and trying to download SL LR Preset and get weird codes? I tried to go to Redotforum.com and cannot locate them either? I own several Leicas, SL, M10P, M3,M2,M6 etc.. Can you help? Thx
If you turn off the LCD while shooting, the battery lasts much, much longer. On the SL2-S, battery life has also been improved further. With the camera plugged into USB-C power and the screen off, we're getting about 6 hours of non-stop run time of 4K30 over HDMI.
The rest of the Summicron-SL range will be rolling out through 2020 and 2021. Once complete, we'll have the option of 21, 24, 28, 35, 50, 75 and 90 all in compact designs with reference class optical performance.
The 180/2.8 APO Elmarit R blows away the 90-280. The glass in digital doesn’t have to be as good because you have a sensor that can increase quality. The R lenses have to be quality because it’s the only means of getting beautiful sharp images. It’s The only time you see classic fine art film quality. Digital takes pretty pictures through, because you have a sensor and stabilized glass. China is catching up on leica in IQ, build quality and price. Leica is pricing themselves out of business. Leica is an analog masterpiece that really holds its value, not like digital Crap which other companies are involved in educating leica on how to make modern lenses. Leica are not worth 1/3rd what they sell for. I’m slowly phasing 35mm leica lenses and using superior glass for a fraction of the price. Your clients think leica is the greatest because you tell them it is. I have lenses from Nikon, Sigma, Canon, Minolta and others. Not to mention their products are a rip off. Sony and Fuji are breathing down Leicas neck in IQ for a fraction of the price.
It's the other way around. Phase One views Leica as competition and therefore doesn''t fully support it. but you can use Leica Image Shuttle software for tehtered camera contol and shooting with files going into a watched C1 hot folder. We did a video on this a few years back: th-cam.com/video/GgLqb5veYPo/w-d-xo.html
@@RedDotForum "Phase one did the same thing when the Fuji GFX was introduced. Phase One needs to get there stuff together." I'll have to watch the video from a few years back to get things together.
You guys have been knocking it out of the park with these live Q&A sessions. Much appreciated.
I love my SL and truly appreciate you dedicating a show to it. Looking forward to Part II. Would love to see you discuss recommended accessories; preferred settings for various types of shoots; third-party glass; recommended maintenance (and preferred methods/products); and whether you use filters (e.g., UV) on your SL glass. Thanks again!
Great presentation. For one who uses his current M lenses on both a M and SL2, I’d like some detailed hints on using the M lenses on the SL2. Also looking forward to a program on the M10 Monochrom.
Thanks for the video!
Downloaded the SL601 preset. At first I wasn't very impressed, but the more I use it on different images, the more I like it!
Great to hear! And don't be afraid to tweak the preset to your own liking.
Thanks for Timestamps - it's much easier to watch the video. Please add the Timestamps to the latests talks
I had to come back and say THANK YOU!! After watching this I passed by leica SOHO while working in NYC a few weeks ago just. Get a better look at the lenses and they actually had an SL2!! Picked up the 24-90 yesterday and I’m very impressed!! Coming from nikon this quite an experience! Hopefully I can purchase some Lenses from you in the future. What possibly doing a deep dive into the leica sl2 menu system?
Your welcome! The SL2 is quite an amazing camera. Glad you got some hands-on time with it. We've considered a menu walk-through but it might be too long to cover everything. Are there any areas in particular that you think we should address?
best video on the SL system I've seen so far ! you guys are amazing !
Appreciate it!!
Thanks to all of you for a fantastic presentation.
What are your thoughts on 50mm primes for the SL2 - specifically the Summicron SL vs the Summilux SL vs the M 0.95 Noctilux? Can the Noctilux resolve satisfactorily at 47MP? Which option is your favourite?
Thanks guys, great live as always!
Awesome video again! So much great info.
Enjoyed this. I have an SL and shoot manual M lenses exclusively. I always learn something new. My only observation is I don’t agree that M glass on SL doesn’t out perform SL glass....It’s my opinion the opposite is true.
Yes, I want a macro lens for the SL2. I have been using a Leica R APO Macro 100 /2.8 and the macro adapter with M lenses. Although the macro adapter with the 50 mm Noctilux is a lot of fun, I will purchase a macro SL lens on the day it is announced!
Thanks, this was very informative. My question is, does IBIS on the SL2 work on 3rd party lenses? I shoot with Canon tilt shift lenses on the SL2 often and am never sure whether IBIS is active? Can I set a lens profile for them? Also, I’m a strobist so definitely would like Leica to cooperate with Profoto for HSS. Looking forward to part 2!
Hi hope you could cover more about SL2 performance with S lenses in Part 2. Maybe also talk about the best S lenses to use with SL2.
Thank you guys! I'm really fascinated by the specs and always wanted to own a Leica camera but it has to justify it cost for my business workflow. Now, I feel I'm sold with the Leica SL2 but wanted to know about the tethering options. I work with Capture One and I don't know if there's any other software that can compete with it. Don't suggest Lightroom please as it's so slow for me in comparison to Capture One. Thanks!
Well, I have to suggest Lightroom as Leica and Adobe work closely together to optimize the processing of the files and this is what I use myself. But.... of course you can use Capture One and many do. To do so, you'll need to run Leica's standalone Image Shuttle software to control the camera and have incoming files go into a watched C1 hot folder. C1 then picks up the images automatically. We actually did a video on this 4 years ago: th-cam.com/video/GgLqb5veYPo/w-d-xo.html
Very informative session. Thank you. I have a question regarding charging the SL2 using a power bank to its USB c port. I have attempted to charge the camera using a power bank and both a USB A to USB c and a USB c to USB c cable but have found the camera does not draw enough power using a USB c port on the power bank ( I tried using two different power banks) Furthermore, if I use a USB c power adapter, it will draw enough to charge the camera. Now, if I use a USB A to USB c (camera side) adapter, it does does draw enough to charge the camera battery, same as using a laptop computer, a USB A power adapter and/or a USB A port in a power bank. Any idea why this is? Are there any restrictions with charging the camera using a USB c to USB c cable and a power bank? Also, could you tell me what the color and frequency of the blinking led lights in the camera mean when charging the camera via a cable. Thanks again. Look forward to your reply and/or tune in to your part 2 in the SL 2 series.
I also have few questions regarding the S lenses on the SL2. Can you confirm the Panasonic cameras not offering autofocus using the S lenses with the S-L adapter? The S lens autofocus was extremely slow and hunted a lot on the SL. I have heard it got much faster with the SL2 almost comparable to the S3 focusing performance. Can you confirm this, and show us how much better it got? Always, appreciate great content and information!!
Hello, what are the available third party lenses that include stabilization for the SL system? I have the typ 601. Thanks!
Don't think there are many - a few I found: Panasonic Lumix S 28-200mm F4-7.1 Macro O.I.S./ Panasonic Lumix S 24-105mm f4 Macro O.I.S L-Mount lens / Panasonic Lumix S 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 Macro OIS L-Mount lens...
thanks.. do you also have preset for SL2S?
I’m currently adapting my M lenses to a Sony a7riii. Will I see a big difference in rendering/colors if I adapt to the SL2? Thanks for the great content!
Yes, absolutely! While no one argues the optical prowess of Leica glass, too little credit is given to their digital bodies. Absolutely stunning color, tonality, and file malleability. Also, Sony mirrorless bodies don't usually work very well with Leica M lenses wider than 35mm due to sensor design.
Fantastic presentation! Can you discuss in Ep 2 - the focal distance scale on top of SL2. I have a Leica 24-90 and in the “Feet” setting, it seems to be way off. When I focus at 10ft away - it reads back 1.0ft. Focus .87ft Front .77ft. @ F8 on 35mm. ?? If I switch to m. It reads 3.1m Back 2.7m Focus 2.4m front. F8 @ 35mm. Can’t find anyone that knows what’s going on.
Focal distance scale was explained in this video.
SUPER GEEKY observation, but I believe you missed one macro option within native Leica universe, manual focus M Lens with EL-Pro adapter. Am I wrong?
Thanks for this great video! A native 1:1 APO macro lens for the SL would be much appreciated.
Agreed!
Recommended solution to those using Flashpoint and Godox strobes as far as trigger goes...will there be any high speed sync solutions?
David or Josh, when using an M lens on the SL2, do the Aperture and/or depth of field numbers appear on the top display? Thank you.
They do not. Only lenses with electronically controlled apertures will display this info. In other words: SL, TL/CL, and S
I'm not sure if you addressed it but is there something about comparing the 50mm Summilux-SL versus the 50mm Summicron-SL APO?
Not yet. We have compared the 50 Summilux-SL against the 50mm APO-Summiron-M though. See the full review of the 50 SL here: www.reddotforum.com/content/2017/03/leica-summilux-sl-50mm-f1-4-asph-review-a-new-standard/
So, when setting the SL to MF for BBF, pressing the joystick activates AF-S or AF-C? If you continue pressing the joystick does it continue focusing? I'm currently using adapted M-glass but am considering an AF solution.
You can select either AF-S or AF-C for back button focus activation. In AF-S continuing to press after focus lock won't do anything. In AF-C, the camera will continue to track focus continuously until you let go. Unless you have a specific reason for continuous tracking, we prefer AF-S (single).
WOuld it be a good idea to put tape over the microphone holes on top of the Leica SL? I never use the camera for video, but it often rains or snows here.
Not necessary. The SL, SL2 and SL2-S are fully weather sealed. The microphone holes have a membrane inside that prevents water from entering the camera. You're good to go in the rain and snow.
@@RedDotForum Stellar. I really appreciate all your knowledge and useful advice on Leica related matters.
I missed the live feed, yet in regards to back button focusing I hope Leica in the future will support this feature using Panasonic L Mount glass. Currently on my SL2 with a Panasonic L Mount lens MF is grayed out though you can engage MF using the clutch on the lens yet this completely disables AF
Please create a great macro lens for the SL!
As an old timer with an M3 outfit, I was wondering if my old M glass would work. Specifically, the 21mm Super Angulon, 35mm f2.8 Summaron with bug eyes and 50mm Dual Range Summicron? I have an M8 that the 21 just works with, even though it won’t meter. Will the SL with converter handle these old classics? Thanks!
Is there any reason you guys are aware of why the SL2 flagship camera does not come with a hot shoe cover?
You talked very little about ISO noise. At what setting should we be concerned possible image quality degradation? In order to use high speed shutter for limiting motion blur and open aperture for depth of field, how high can I go safely with ISO? 1600 or can I set it 6400?
The SL2 will perform extremely well at ISO 6400, with very little sacrifice in image quality from ISO 1600.
May I ask where I can find the preset for M10 ?
We mentioned this in subsequent videos, but I published a comprehensive article/resource for Lightroom presets for every Leica camera going back to the M9. Check it out: www.reddotforum.com/content/2020/04/lightroom-presets-for-leica-cameras/
Question: Can Firmware of SL2 install into SL601?, if possible, is there any problem later?
No. Each camera has its own firmware. The SL601 has received many updates since its introduction so the camera continues to improve.
Love it!!!
I would like to ask on the lowlight performance between the SL and the SL2 hence the SL2 has more pixels but does it performs on lowlight situations? Should i get the Sl as i shoot a lot of low light environment? I have mix feelings on this topic as Sl2 has new technology inside but the mp is just to big for my kind of shooting. Please advice. Thanks.
I have the same question and wonder why it is not been addressed. I think the low light performance of SL2 is a crucial issue. Steve Huff says it is not good. Let’s see what is experience of others.
@@tahirchaudhry6564 Yes exactly im still waiting for their response on this topic too.
How does your lightroom preset show in lightroom? I installed them but cannot find them
In your next session, could you please discuss how to power the SL2 with external power, via the USB-C port. I often do long videos where my 2 batteries aren’t enough and I’ve heard in forums there’s a way to do this. I’ve had success charging the battery in-camera, which only seems to work when the camera power is off. Turning camera power on seems to disconnect the USB-C power to the camera.
as far as macro goes, you also forgot that you can have a sl-R adaptor, and add the bellows set for the R series, making ANY R lens a macro lens, say the 135mm.
Hello David, enjoy your talks and trying to download SL LR Preset and get weird codes? I tried to go to Redotforum.com and cannot locate them either? I own several Leicas, SL, M10P, M3,M2,M6 etc.. Can you help? Thx
Sigma 70mm f/2.8 DG Macro Art Lens for Leica L is an option for Macro
I also want a Leica macro for the SL system a 1:1 not 1:2, PLEASE
Macro lens for SL please Leica!
Great
Why is the m10 p more expensive than the Leica SL 2
hi Guys.. I only have 1 question which is have the sl2 video recording in 4 K resolved? The battery cannot last. Thanks
If you turn off the LCD while shooting, the battery lasts much, much longer. On the SL2-S, battery life has also been improved further. With the camera plugged into USB-C power and the screen off, we're getting about 6 hours of non-stop run time of 4K30 over HDMI.
@@RedDotForum ok thanks for the reply. its not a permanent solution but temporary one.
When will they come out with smaller AF lenses?
The rest of the Summicron-SL range will be rolling out through 2020 and 2021. Once complete, we'll have the option of 21, 24, 28, 35, 50, 75 and 90 all in compact designs with reference class optical performance.
you boys are silly! nice cameras.
Not having a depth of field preview in this day and age of mirrorless is neglect of the highest magnitude.
The 180/2.8 APO Elmarit R blows away the 90-280. The glass in digital doesn’t have to be as good because you have a sensor that can increase quality. The R lenses have to be quality because it’s the only means of getting beautiful sharp images.
It’s The only time you see classic fine art film quality. Digital takes pretty pictures through, because you have a sensor and stabilized glass.
China is catching up on leica in IQ, build quality and price. Leica is pricing themselves out of business. Leica is an analog masterpiece that really holds its value, not like digital Crap which other companies are involved in educating leica on how to make modern lenses. Leica are not worth 1/3rd what they sell for. I’m slowly phasing 35mm leica lenses and using superior glass for a fraction of the price. Your clients think leica is the greatest because you tell them it is. I have lenses from Nikon, Sigma, Canon, Minolta and others. Not to mention their products are a rip off. Sony and Fuji are breathing down Leicas neck in IQ for a fraction of the price.
Sucks camera that doesn't support Capture One
It's the other way around. Phase One views Leica as competition and therefore doesn''t fully support it. but you can use Leica Image Shuttle software for tehtered camera contol and shooting with files going into a watched C1 hot folder. We did a video on this a few years back: th-cam.com/video/GgLqb5veYPo/w-d-xo.html
@@RedDotForum "Phase one did the same thing when the Fuji GFX was introduced. Phase One needs to get there stuff together." I'll have to watch the video from a few years back to get things together.
@@RedDotForum What would be the issue with tether control when there software can do everything else with a Leica DNG file? Makes no since
I was hoping for something much better. It was disappointing. Maybe next time!