That guy gets way to much flak. I mean, it's an exhaust port the size of a womp rat to the core of a moon sized battle station. It's impressive that it's that small, and that somehow a missile was able to go down despite all the exhaust going up. It's almost as if no one told him to guard it against space wizards. /WTF is Dorkly? :P
Started using a club years ago after a car theft. I still use it in shady parking lots but never bother locking it as I realize it's only a visual deterrent.
I had one years ago that came with the car I got from my dad. After about a year or so, I'd never lock it either... there really was no point in doing so... :) I think I still have it in my garage now..
A friend of mine used one as its namesake when two dudes tried to rob him when he was getting out of his car. He hadn't bothered to lock it on the steering wheel, so it was just hanging out on the passenger side floor. One club to the teeth later and one robber was pretty badly injured and the other ditched his injured friend leaving him lying screaming on the ground. At least that's how the story goes, I wasn't there. I believe him though he's not one to lie or exaggerate.
@@coyotePAC3 A pro does not even think to look if the car has one of these locks, just like he would not check if you have tied a shoestring from your car to a pole:-) That lock is only to make the owner feel safe. :-)
@@ninoski4043 Exactly - consider how many users of these things are going to lose the key, they don't want their device to have to be destroyed if it needs to be removed via alternative methods. People need their 'piece of mind' devices more than they actually need them to work effectively.
Great video. How convenient of them to put that rubber stopper right over the actuator. They should have put a decal over it saying " Do not remove this sticker under penalty of law". 🤣😂
They must’ve heard the complaints/watched this video because at the bottom where the hole is at is now WELDED hole 😂 recently bought one last month. good improvement glad u made this video.
@@NSUScooter just in case i ordered stoplock elite pro also off amazon, gave this to family member (better than nothing lol). You not getting stoplock off without tools or cutting the steering wheel 👍🏾 dislok also good but I don’t loke how they can still steer a bit too effectively by holding the wheel from the backside
Everyone puts these on wrong! What is described in this video or drilling can only be done if the club is put on with the lock facing toward you on the wheel. Install it the other way around so the lock is facing the dash. You can't get to it now to do this stuff. Everything is in the way.
I think this exploit makes this car more of a target than a car with a different steering lock. If I had to choose between different cars, all with steering locks in place, I would choose the one with this lock because I can remove it without using a hacksaw, which would draw much more attention and ruin the steering wheel. But yeah, it's better than a car without one.
Yeah, the problem with that attitude is that car thieves are probably the type of thieves that plan their theft. If they keep seeing the same car parked at the same spot for a few hours, they'll target it, do their research, and will probably see that this type of hook lock is easily hacked.
You'd have to own a tow truck, or rent one, and then you have evidence in place that can be used against you, ideally for petty crimes you want as little evidence as possible so you can't be charged.
The hole is likely used to drill out the internal cavity during manufacture. They should have welded it closed, then sanded the surface before painting and it would be remediated both functionality and aesthetically. Cost cutting clowns chose a rubber plug instead.
that is because he did not use the key i told him about and tried to pick it , you can jam the lock if you are not careful , i opened a bike lock doing that and it opened the lock but i used it normally to lock my bike after that, it opened with the key at first and i locked my bike up but it jammed when i was trying to open it with the key and i thought i was carful when i picked it ,lol I had damaged the wafers, lesson learned, had to have a lock smith cut the lock off ,lol !
I had a Clublock fitted on my Toyota Corolla back in 1990 in Sydney, Australia. There was a guarantee that if my vehicle was stolen after being fitted with a Club lock that they would pay me something like $500. The car was stolen about one week after the lock was put on. The cops found the car one week later out in western Sydney. They said it was used for a number of break and enters at peoples homes then abandoned. The car was in good shape when I picked it up. The Club lock was on the front passenger floor broken. Cops said they must have used a metal bar with a flat screwdriver bit welded in the center. Very easy to break the lock and remove. The cops also told me that theives will often just cut the sterring wheel off and get the Clublock off that way. I wrote a letter to Club lock and included the police report and a number of photos but never heard from them.
@@thatcarguydom266 I wouldn't have anything as it was so long ago. The company here probably went out of business as well so even if I did have evidence it would be a dead end legally.
physical locks don't prevent, they just deter. If they want to steal it they will steal it. 5 minutes vs 30 seconds isn't a big difference when nobody is around. Lock companies are making MILLIONS off people thinking their products will prevent thief. None of the bike locks work if a pro thief has 3 minutes to work with. Same with cars. If you really want your car to not get stolen, you need to install a fuel kill switch hidden somewhere in the car
@@PWCDN I thought about a fuel kill switch but decided to go with electrical switch to cut the battery instead. The fuel switch would have messed with my starter (depending on how long the thief tried to turn the engine over).
I remember these being popular 20 years ago. I haven’t seen one since and forgotten all about them until this video. Probably due to modern cars now having decent factory fitted immobilisers. Which made these locks obsolete. Today a thief would rather try and steal the car key than attempt to hot wire the car.
@@Helladamnleet Screwdriver in the ignition and a mallet. BAM, turn the ignition, car starts, lock disabled. Works on pretty much every cheap car from 2000 and older. Some newer ones too, surprisingly. Know of several thefts occurring in this fashion. Also works for the door locks. Kinda sad really.
It's almost as if, when the engineers sit down to design a lock, the intent isn't to come up with something that is effective but to just come up with something to market.
It's almost as if, when the engineers sit down to design a lock, the intent isn't to come up with something that is effective, but to come up with something that will get them featured on LockPickingLawyer with a glaring flaw.
@@helidude3502 or for people who steal cars but would rather steal the much easier cars with no additional security measures as opposed to a car with additional security measures.
Great video. My usual theft prevention for vehicles is to always use Faraday bag for key fobs, steering wheel lock, and I remove the fuse for low voltage starter circuit and replace it with an identical dummy fuse. It should slow down the pro thieves enough to abandon the theft attempt. BTW, thanks for showing the rubber plug, that's just inexusable. Tomorrow I'mg going to Tig weld that hole shut
Wheel club locks are just there to stop crimes of convenience. A thief determined to get your particular car will easily defeat this no matter how well made the lock is. If you want a lock that actually will stop more determined thieves for a vintage vehicle without an immobilizer you get a brake pedal lock. Can't get most cars into gear without being able to push the brake and even if you could it's hard to drive one without a functioning brake. That said if a thief really wants your car they'll just aquire a tow truck and drag it off or onto a flat bed.
Cragified NEVER saw a car with such feature (inability to put into gear without brake)... Well unless you parked uphill (which is still managable but can be risky sometimes). Maybe it's because I live in Europe (Poland to be precise), 95% of people here drive manual since well forever and you're talking about something what automatic transmission car would have, I don't know... Never heard of it anyway
And driving without brake pedal, well... Determined, skilled car thief would easily make it with careful handbrake use (+might as well have some fun drifting while at it! lol)
@@UrsusSuperior44 The brake pedal is one of the hardest and strongest components on a vehicle. It has to be up to the rigors of withstanding the forces of panic application as well as manual reversion if the brake booster fails. You would be at it for a very long time trying to cut through it with hand tools. Coupled with cars long requiring brake pedal application before they will go into gear on automatics, predating even immobilizers its a far more effective security measure.
Well, not denying those facts, but still, such lock wouldn't do much theft-prevention in manual transmission car (which is VAST majority in my country). I just was surprised with "most cars can't get into gear without pushing brake pedal" statement - I saw really few automatic transmission cars (from the inside) in my life (well, they're not THAT uncommon in PL, it's just me), and obviously never drove one, I only drive "stick" and to be honest I wouldn't really want to switch to automatic, manual is fun Learning something new every day! :)
Yes, it's called the neutral safety switch. The reason being that a hydrocouple automatic will start if in any gear due to the internal slip. And then proceed to run over things, sadly people have been killed in such accidents even though it sounds silly. Usually by someone looking at something under the hood while an assistant starts the vehicle which then crushes the first person against a garage wall etc. Depending on the make the the neutral safety switch prevent the transmission physically or electrically from shifting out of park or neutral without the brake being held down. A traditional manual can't really hard the same system correct as you are always passing through neutral between gears. However there are neutral safety switches on manual transmission clutch pedals that will disable the starter if the clutch isn't held down. Driving a vehicle on just the parking brake would be quite the risky thing to do just to steal a car for convience, which is what most car theft is about. Someone just wanting a ride.
Nitrxgen I was thinking if you lost your main set, and had a key to the car in one of those magnetic key holders but never got around to adding the spare Club key. I'm sure it's happened.
then you won't even be able to unlock your car let alone get the steering lock off -- look, maybe I'm too organised with my keys but if you got keys you'll regularly use together, you'd always keep them together (car keys + steering lock keys for example), if you have any sense you'd do the same with your spare keys too... i don't think a lock should be purposely made vulnerable in case keys are lost unless there exists a significant fire hazard where a lock would need to be broken quickly for emergency services and that doesn't really apply with a steering lock, that's just my opinion
David Howard like I said. If you lost your main keys you could still have a spare vehicle key in a magnetic key box outside of the vehicle. But if you never had the spare Club key or lost it before adding it to the magnetic box, you could non destructively remove the Club. They are bright yellow for a reason. 90% of what it does is keep someone from even attempting to steal the car. Most theives would pass up the clubbed car for the one next to it with nothing just for times sake.
This comment is super old but oh well. Id rather have a secure lock that i have to drill/call a locksmith to get off. Than a lock that is easily defeatable with a no skill attack.
I live in a high car theft area, and back when the Club first came out, any car in the area that dared to put one on their steering wheel found all four tires slashed and often all their windows smashed as well.
This does not contribute to theft; these vulnerabilities are old and well known. What it does is contribute to us, the viewers, knowing the vulnerabilities of these locks, so we can make informed decisions. Thieves are aided by ignorant people buying insecure locks, not by talking about well known techniques.
Reminds of a story a friend of mine told me. He bought a Chinese padlock and it worked pretty well, then he noticed something at the back of the padlock had some kind of button, he pressed it and the locked opened. I don't know if he was telling the truth or not though.
Thank you for a very informative video. I did buy a club and use it for a visual deterrent alarm. But I also had a hidden electric kill switch, a key box hidden fuel shut off and a lojac. Several hundred dollars is a small price to pay to try and keep my truck from being stolen. They can always tow it but I hope not. I like the peace of mind of the Lojac. Talked to a policeman and he said they are good at helping them recover vehicles.
When i bought my 84 monte carlo when i was in high school it came with a club, i used to just stick it on the steering wheel without even locking it, to act as a visual deterrent, without having to take the time locking and unlocking it...
I have a street legal UTV and I use one of these and lock it. Its open air with no doors. I understand the vulnerabilities with this and only use it as an addition to all the other extra anti-theft stuff I use so a thief will just notice in a few seconds "this is gonna take a lot of time" and move on. I use The Club in addition to a cable lock through the front and rear wheels and usually park next to a pole and use an additional cable lock from a secure mounting point to the frame. I also install a brake disc alarm and I also have one of the small motorcycle motion sensor alarms with a remote. One time I went to the mall with a friend close to a high crime area. I grabbed lunch with him and sat outside. I watched as every several minutes cars would drive by slow and someone would walk by and look around case the area. One pulled made the alarm beep. Yea. You have to cut two cables just to move it then you cant steer it unless you cut The Club and meanwhile you got two different ear piercing alarms going off. Yea, go ahead and try it a$$hole. Hahaha!!!
@@aaron.0303 I bought the Twin Hook Club, but NOT the one in the video, (the yellow one). I bought the Twin Hook that is GOLD. It doesn't have the flaw mentioned in this video. Instead of a rubber plug it has a metal plug that has been inserted by machine pressure. It's impossible to remove. I'm happy with it and bought another for my daughter's car.
My parents used one of the single prong clubs way back when. The car got stolen after someone hack sawed through the steering wheel ( They first tried to cut the locking lug oddly enough ). They managed to take off with the car, but only got a mile down the road before the engine blew.
It’s probably pretty difficult to do when the lock is on a steering wheel, on most modern cars the centre of the wheel is solid, which would Block access to the hole in the club.
This was on home page, decided to watch despite having massive headache. And it turns out that just making volume a little lower than normal is all it takes with LPL. One of the few that I can watch and listen to with a nasty headache.
Funny, a few months ago a lady lost the keys to her off brand club, found this same vulnerability and bent a tension wrench to push the lug back, I always assumed it was the cheap company not a stolen design😂😂😂
Super easy to fix with sandpaper, wax and jb weld. Rough the inside of the plug area, light coat of wax on the chrome bar with the bar fully inserted so no notches are showing, and fill in the hole with a little jb weld. And let dry. After it dries, slide out bar and clean off wax.
And that's why videos like this are important. It sparks a discussion where good ideas such as this can be put out there for people and manufacturers to see. Plug that hole!
and so they just use the cable cutters to cut the steering wheel, a CLUB is USELESS and won't do shit to stop a real car thief that actually wants your car for more then a joy ride.
It won't matter. It takes mere seconds to get one of these off the steering wheel. You could put the strongest lock known on it, and armor that to insane levels and it would not impede the thief at all. The stupid devices are still attached to the weak steering wheel.
In the early 1970's, the Australian Govt made steering locks mandatory. This of course just made car thieves target cars sold before the new law came into effect. So some importer started selling steering wheel locks a bit like the one shown in this video but with single hooks and made from square tubing instead of round tubing. One day I got a call from my girlfriend. She had lost her key. Upon inspecting the lock, I couldn't see how it could be easily picked so I put the driver's seat well back, my feet on the steering wheel and got a firm grip on the lock. I pulled hard and broke it - it wasn't actually that difficult - didn't do the slightest damage to the steering wheel. After a few months, the consumer protection authority made the importer cease sales and refund all purchasers, as car thieves were all doing what I did. These sorts of add-on things are generally made and/or sold by shysters. There is another design with a longer shaft that links the steering wheel to the brake pedal. It too is removable in under a second by just using brute force. Lock picking lawyer says the single hook designs are defeated by thieves hacksawing a piece out of the steering wheel. I very much doubt that - the thief would need a) a hacksaw, and b) many many minutes of time (inside the plastic is usually a steel core) and he couldn't get up a good cutting stroke - not enough room. 95% of thefts are opportunist - the thief walks past and spots an unlocked car or a make/model that is easily defeated. Like 1970's Ford Cortinas - my mother had one and lost her ignition key. I examined the steering column lock and then defeated it by using a screwdriver to bend a mild steel tab out of the way, freeing the steering wheel, and hot wired the car so she could drive it. A couple of days later she found her key, so I bent the tab back again.
What do you mean "the Australian govt made them mandatory"? Sounds like something the Australian nanny state would do, but are you saying they forced you to use them?
@@littlejackalo5326 : I was talking about the integral steering/ignition locks that were factory fitted 1970's onward. If the government makes all the people do something, that's a nanny state. This is not the case here. Here the government "forced" manufacturers to do something.- to the benefit of everybody except thieves. I put "forced" in quotes as within a few years all cars would have had steering wheel locks anyway as it became common practice world wide. However, Australian governments have had nanny state tendencies in other matters - eg bicycle riders are forced by law to wear helmets, which only protect riders in unusual crashes, and benefits bicycle shops selling helmets.
That's because for awhile, the resistor or transponder in the ignition key meant that the car wasn't going anywhere without the correct key even if the steering wheel could turn. It also didn't help these steering wheel locks when airbags got bigger and the lock would damage the face. Now that we're seeing vulnerabilities in the transponder systems, I wouldn't be surprised if these sorts of systems start returning.
a pair of large cable cutters will slice right through a steering wheel in a FRACTION the time it took this guy to pick the lock and allow easy removal of ANY steering wheel lock, they fell out of favor because of how easy they are to bypass.
Impressive for sure that it took you that long. They must have improved their mechanism. My club was the first lock I ever picked when getting into the hobby back in the 90's, and it only took me, a beginner, a few seconds.
Wrap the bar with tape so that it can be seen through the hole with the club collapsed. this will to keep epoxy off the bar. Then fill the hole with epoxy or jam a piece of metal in the hole and cover with epoxy.
“I’m surprised how fast your snail is!” Have you hired an out of work comedian to write for you? Seriously, that “bypass hole” is inexcusable. This video is a good public service announcement.
Our biggest flaw with the twin hook Club was that the key to the club could be used to start my wife's car. You could not, however, remove the key or stop the car once you did this.
The Club is a great way to install a convenient handle to allow easy defeat of the steering wheel lock. Then it doubles as a handle to bend the wheel so as to remove the Club itself
"a convenient handle to allow easy defeat of the steering wheel lock" longer end should be blocked in the corner of your car then you are not be able to move the steering wheel at all. But from quick google search i can see that most people are not instaling it like that... propably because half of people on this planet are part of two digit IQ club.
You're not bending a steering wheel enough to get a 2 pronged club off. Is it possible? Sure. Is it happening? No. Definitely not happening if you straddle one of the spokes on the wheel with the prongs of the club.
What no one mentions, is that these locks are meant to be installed with the cylinder facing the dashboard, not the driver. Makes using the key a PITA. Makes picking it an even bigger PITA.
Putting the key facing backwards with this club would either put the lock facing the steering wheel, or use only two of the four hooks. And put the plug staring right at you, as previously mentioned
This video got me curious as to why people use wafer locks, and I discovered the existence of a crushable wafer. I'm curious, do you have any locks with crushable wafers in your collection? The Internet suggests they were abandoned at some point due to inherent problems with the system, but it doesn't really specify when, and it might be a bit of a collector's item.
Well it works anyway. Car thieves have said on many occasions that they skip the cars with any steering wheel locks. They don't want to spend any extra seconds in a car.
I used similar one back in the 1980's. The thieves who stole my car used it to break all the car's windows after they had slid off the road into a ditch. Wish I had not used it at all as then my windows might have survived ...
I have one of these (gotta check if it has the hole in it). I bought it as a visual deterrent and physical deterrent. Assuming the hole on mine is there or if have to plug it, it is still yet another step to steal my vehicle. I didn't buy it thinking it was going to stop theft because NO device can do that. But if someone sees it and decides to move on to an easier target, then I say it did its job. Also if they don't know how to remove it, thieves would not be able to leave because you can only turn the steering wheel partially. They wouldn't even make it out of my parking spot with the club on... Realistically, there are plenty of other cars in my parking garage which are worth a lot more and are far easier to steal....
The best vehicle theft deterrent is a manual transmission or a start procedure that begins to resemble that of a light aircraft. Or both. That's fine too.
So this just popped up on my feed. A day late and a dollar short. But it brought to mind a story, so indulge me.... I was living in a small mountain community in Colorado. We only had one grocery store. A tourist (we had lots of them) was driving a 30 year old mini-van packed to the gills with...I'll be generous...stuff. He put a club on his wheel. As I was coming out of the store, he was loading his groceries and then fidgeting with his club wheel lock to get it off. What he didn't realize was that in this small community, no one locked a car door, and in 9/10 times the keys for the car could be found in one of three spots: in the visor, under the floor mat, or in the center console/ignition. No one would steal a 30 year old mini-van when a 6 month old pickup was free for the taking. Oh, afterwards, we did have a couple of teens take a couple of pickups for joy rides (from their homes), but a small town in the middle of nowhere, the pickups were quickly found and so were the kids.
I’m reminded of a story, back in the early 1990s, where a soldier, stationed at Ft. Bliss, went out to check on his vehicle and the car was gone but The Club®️ attached to the steering wheel was left behind.
Hi Harry, clever little bypass - trust you to find it! You don't often see them nowadays, with the advent of transponder keys and steering locks as original equipment. The car thieves were removing them from the steering wheel by smacking the end of the shaft with a hammer, and collapsing the ratcheting pall. I guess the best way to install would be with the long shaft facing the wind shield. Regards, Brian.
Only if you could angle it into the corner of the wind shield. Otherwise, you could just move it by rotating the steering wheel. I can't remember how much reach the original ones had but I seem to recall that most people had them up against the driver's door sill so you couldn't steer well if you started the car (unless you drove with the door open).
Not that long ago I remember a TV spot where they just took off the steering wheel and used vice-grips to drive...LOL Back during the popularity of 'The Club'. Like any lock the idea is to stop a kids from taking the vehicle and joy riding not an actual thief.
I found if I put the long shaft down towards the seat, of anyone would hacksaw or bolt cut they would have to do so outside of the vehicle because the club is blocking their entrance. Again only stops crimes of convenience.
I had one of these put on my car as a joke last week. The rubber plug at the bottom is now a metal insert that I wasn't able to remove. I had some spare brass sheet laying around that is .008" thick. I made a 4" long shim with it and popped the thing off in less than 10 seconds, so I'd say shimming is an extremely viable option.
The best way I've seen anyone prevent their car from being stolen is when Mr Bean detached his car's steering wheel and took it with him while on a picnic. Thief broke into his car but couldn't steal it because it didn't have the steering wheel.
That is both hilarious and impractical and I love it. Best way to make sure a thief only jacks the shit inside the car rather than your car is to make sure that HE needs a steering wheel just to drive yours off! Or some good hand strength
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Well done again, like others here have asked what is the purpose of that hole to begin with?? Why in the world would they put that in such a compromising place, there's got to be a reason...
I timed him taking about two minutes to pick that lock... TH-cam shows thieves using hack saws on the steering wheel in 13 seconds. Few people would have the skills to pick the lock even after watching this video. Again the Club is just a deterrent and thieves will hopefully pick another vehicle
I once lost the keys to one of this, I had a junior hack saw. It took me just 15 strokes (10 seconds) to cut the rod at the thinnest part of the ratchet bar .
You're gonna have every thug in (insert city here) looking for that particular "Club" in the cars they're targeting. :-) That said, I still like the old tried and true idea of a hidden stopcock somewhere on the fuel line. Add GPS tracking and you're likely to keep your ride.
or hidden switch to disable fuel pump. more than anything the point of the club though is to stop the thief from entering your vehicle in the first place. it's a visual deterrent and disabling the vehicle mechanically or electrically is not. Same reason chip keyed cars have that little flashing LED.
A lot of new cars use plastic fuel lines lol simplist way would be to pull the fuel pump relay but doing that repeatedly would probably wear out the contacts in the panel
Back in the 90s, the single hook red Club had an issue I found by mistake. The ratchet was held in by a ball bearing. There was a metal stopper that was painted over. It rusted enough through winter's that the stopper was loose and the ball bearing (and a spring) fell out of The Club. After that, it was totally useless since I didn't have a welder to put it back together and there weren't enough internet vendors out there for me to get decent glues (J-B Weld) to put it back together.
And somehow they will claim that you did not "defeat" their lock thus not having to pay out on their guaranty. Have not yet figured out what their definition of "defeat" is yet.
All these clubs suffer from the same problem. the metal in teh steering wheels is really soft and made to bend quite easily. You can bend some steering wheels with your bare hands. Due to this, it is a safety feature, cutting wheels on battery tools cut through a steering wheel in seconds. A small notch and no more club!
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I think the same guys who designed that club really admired the design of The Death Star.
Doofenshmirtz Evil Incorporated
@@heroslippy6666 I sang that in my head
Matthew Reichert after reading that I did the same thing
I actually think its miraculous having just the one vent.
That guy gets way to much flak.
I mean, it's an exhaust port the size of a womp rat to the core of a moon sized battle station. It's impressive that it's that small, and that somehow a missile was able to go down despite all the exhaust going up.
It's almost as if no one told him to guard it against space wizards.
/WTF is Dorkly? :P
I really liked that phrase "I'm surprised at how fast your snail is". 👌
or "That cockroach has really good hygiene."
@@PsychoticBovine Excellent table manners for a hog...
Robert Clark yeah well my snail is super fast, it has an acceleration of 9.8m/s
@@Kari-tu3fs - You call that fast? If my slug had legs it would kick your snail's tail. Not having to carry a shell around makes my slug super-fast!
@@scootergeorge9576 r/whoosh 9.8meters/second is the acceleration from gravity, it isn't fast unless he drops it
Started using a club years ago after a car theft. I still use it in shady parking lots but never bother locking it as I realize it's only a visual deterrent.
I had one years ago that came with the car I got from my dad. After about a year or so, I'd never lock it either... there really was no point in doing so... :) I think I still have it in my garage now..
A friend of mine used one as its namesake when two dudes tried to rob him when he was getting out of his car. He hadn't bothered to lock it on the steering wheel, so it was just hanging out on the passenger side floor. One club to the teeth later and one robber was pretty badly injured and the other ditched his injured friend leaving him lying screaming on the ground. At least that's how the story goes, I wasn't there. I believe him though he's not one to lie or exaggerate.
Locks keep honest people honest. That's it. A pro car thief has many ideas to bypass the club or would just tow the car away.
@@coyotePAC3 A pro does not even think to look if the car has one of these locks, just like he would not check if you have tied a shoestring from your car to a pole:-) That lock is only to make the owner feel safe. :-)
@@13vatra That's metal af literally
Absolutely comical that they actually put that hole right there.
With no context that sounds..... y'know... never mind
I sense a job opening...
as the body is full cast the hole was probably made to put the locking pin in, but a pretty big flaw that should have bin found in development
That's emergency opening that they hoped nobody would notice
@@ninoski4043 Exactly - consider how many users of these things are going to lose the key, they don't want their device to have to be destroyed if it needs to be removed via alternative methods. People need their 'piece of mind' devices more than they actually need them to work effectively.
Great video. How convenient of them to put that rubber stopper right over the actuator. They should have put a decal over it saying " Do not remove this sticker under penalty of law". 🤣😂
"Warning, removing stopper invalidates locking mechanism?"
Or removal invalidates warrenty ;)
People always do the opposite to what you say!!!
"No user serviceable parts inside"
hive of transdimensional shark wasps inside do not remove stopper
LPL diving at the bottom of the ocean:
"And then i noticed this rubber stop here..."
@@NikopolAU Thank you... and I just wast...er ...spent an hour on on Randall Munroe's website read all sorts of topics.
The main drain
Unlocking hell
@@NikopolAU Wait, it's all Netherland?
Always has been.
The plug from spongebob
They must’ve heard the complaints/watched this video because at the bottom where the hole is at is now WELDED hole 😂 recently bought one last month. good improvement glad u made this video.
I just bought one today after an attempted car theft and saw this video. Mine is welded too!
I realyhope they made the lock less pickable as well.
@@NSUScooter just in case i ordered stoplock elite pro also off amazon, gave this to family member (better than nothing lol). You not getting stoplock off without tools or cutting the steering wheel 👍🏾 dislok also good but I don’t loke how they can still steer a bit too effectively by holding the wheel from the backside
Everyone puts these on wrong! What is described in this video or drilling can only be done if the club is put on with the lock facing toward you on the wheel.
Install it the other way around so the lock is facing the dash. You can't get to it now to do this stuff. Everything is in the way.
You can't do this with most modern robust steering wheels (Install it lock facing the dash).
I guess they are going with the, "A thief would move onto another/softer target", idea. Rather than producing a device that is actually secure.
There is no "actually secure" for this kind of device when you can saw the steering wheel.
Given that, a small delay is all that can be offered.
I think this exploit makes this car more of a target than a car with a different steering lock.
If I had to choose between different cars, all with steering locks in place, I would choose the one with this lock because I can remove it without using a hacksaw, which would draw much more attention and ruin the steering wheel.
But yeah, it's better than a car without one.
Yeah, the problem with that attitude is that car thieves are probably the type of thieves that plan their theft. If they keep seeing the same car parked at the same spot for a few hours, they'll target it, do their research, and will probably see that this type of hook lock is easily hacked.
@@dash1dash2 can't they just tow the car if they really wanted to steal it.
You'd have to own a tow truck, or rent one, and then you have evidence in place that can be used against you, ideally for petty crimes you want as little evidence as possible so you can't be charged.
LPL: "All in all, I suppose this lock is better than nothing..."
Club Marketing Department: *jumps on desks and sprays one another with champagne*
Lol yea.
LPL: "Until I noticed there's a little rubber plug right here."
Me, to an empty room: "Oh noooo . . . there's a little rubber plug. That's not good."
is this a butt plug refrence
@@rails4ever Nah. Just a reference to LPL "noticing" something about a lock
never being good for the security of the lock in question.
Ah yes, the dreaded LRP flaw strikes again!
@@ajm5007 we should be friends
In LPL language, "better than nothing" is actually something to be proud of.
The hole is likely used to drill out the internal cavity during manufacture. They should have welded it closed, then sanded the surface before painting and it would be remediated both functionality and aesthetically. Cost cutting clowns chose a rubber plug instead.
I just got one of these yesterday. They weld that hole shut now 👍
To be honest, this appeared to be one of the more difficult ones for LPL to defeat.
that is because he did not use the key i told him about and tried to pick it , you can jam the lock if you are not careful , i opened a bike lock doing that and it opened the lock but i used it normally to lock my bike after that, it opened with the key at first and i locked my bike up but it jammed when i was trying to open it with the key and i thought i was carful when i picked it ,lol I had damaged the wafers, lesson learned, had to have a lock smith cut the lock off ,lol !
@@paulsolfelt8452 what do you think is the steering wheel lock that is most difficult to pick ?
@@memopadilla5931 I would not know and I would not use any crap steering wheel lock,lol !
I had a Clublock fitted on my Toyota Corolla back in 1990 in Sydney, Australia. There was a guarantee that if my vehicle was stolen after being fitted with a Club lock that they would pay me something like $500. The car was stolen about one week after the lock was put on. The cops found the car one week later out in western Sydney. They said it was used for a number of break and enters at peoples homes then abandoned. The car was in good shape when I picked it up. The Club lock was on the front passenger floor broken. Cops said they must have used a metal bar with a flat screwdriver bit welded in the center. Very easy to break the lock and remove. The cops also told me that theives will often just cut the sterring wheel off and get the Clublock off that way. I wrote a letter to Club lock and included the police report and a number of photos but never heard from them.
If you still have the paperwork you could sue for false advertising XD
@@thatcarguydom266 I wouldn't have anything as it was so long ago. The company here probably went out of business as well so even if I did have evidence it would be a dead end legally.
physical locks don't prevent, they just deter. If they want to steal it they will steal it. 5 minutes vs 30 seconds isn't a big difference when nobody is around. Lock companies are making MILLIONS off people thinking their products will prevent thief. None of the bike locks work if a pro thief has 3 minutes to work with. Same with cars. If you really want your car to not get stolen, you need to install a fuel kill switch hidden somewhere in the car
@@PWCDN I thought about a fuel kill switch but decided to go with electrical switch to cut the battery instead. The fuel switch would have messed with my starter (depending on how long the thief tried to turn the engine over).
I picture the car thief sitting comfortably in the driver’s seat watching this tutorial on his phone and making short work of removing the Club
and then leaving a like afterwards 😌
@@tehdogefather6546 probably subscribed too
@@masterofmetaphors and commented how comical it would be if a thief watched this tutorial
And then reading this comment before driving off in his new car.
@@AustinVandeburgt I've actually been thinking about becoming a criminal due to this channel, and guess what? New year, New me 😁
I used to use a Club and I always put it on backward so the keyway was facing the dashboard to hinder pickers
Good idea.
Wow. Excellent idea.
I don’t even see how that’s possible.. because of the shaft behind the wheel.
@@BrekMartin I tried it lmaooo it makes no type of sense
Hey thanks that's a great idea..
I had one of these a number of years ago. My theory was to protect the airbag from theft, as that was the thing back then.
@Michael Persico The thing that always bugged me about the idea of hotwiring a car is that the steering lock was a thing for a very long time.
I remember these being popular 20 years ago. I haven’t seen one since and forgotten all about them until this video.
Probably due to modern cars now having decent factory fitted immobilisers. Which made these locks obsolete.
Today a thief would rather try and steal the car key than attempt to hot wire the car.
@@Helladamnleet Screwdriver in the ignition and a mallet. BAM, turn the ignition, car starts, lock disabled. Works on pretty much every cheap car from 2000 and older. Some newer ones too, surprisingly. Know of several thefts occurring in this fashion. Also works for the door locks. Kinda sad really.
*I'm Suprised How Fast Your Snail Is*
This man stay delivering the most polite roasts of *all time*
It's almost as if, when the engineers sit down to design a lock, the intent isn't to come up with something that is effective but to just come up with something to market.
It's almost as if, when the engineers sit down to design a lock, the intent isn't to come up with something that is effective, but to come up with something that will get them featured on LockPickingLawyer with a glaring flaw.
The weak point is the steering wheel, not the lock, so it doesn’t really matter
Engineers don't sit down to come up with marketing ideas, marketers do. But I see your point
I was thinking the hole is just a manufacturing convenience.
Well if that's the case then it's entirely the company's fault for putting the engineers in the marketing department in the first place
a tutorial for thieves. you must be proud of yourself to share your knowledge to teach people how to pick locks. awesome
it serves as a visual deterrent only
Only for people that don't steal cars.
@@helidude3502 or for people who steal cars but would rather steal the much easier cars with no additional security measures as opposed to a car with additional security measures.
The iconic yellow and black would put off many thiefs especially if there are other cars nearby
Right it can't be racked so I feel it's a good deterrent just got 2 find a way to weld or plug that hole
@@mikedub9638 The easiest way would be to super glue the plug in. That would slow down the thief.
Great video. My usual theft prevention for vehicles is to always use Faraday bag for key fobs, steering wheel lock, and I remove the fuse for low voltage starter circuit and replace it with an identical dummy fuse. It should slow down the pro thieves enough to abandon the theft attempt. BTW, thanks for showing the rubber plug, that's just inexusable. Tomorrow I'mg going to Tig weld that hole shut
Wheel club locks are just there to stop crimes of convenience. A thief determined to get your particular car will easily defeat this no matter how well made the lock is. If you want a lock that actually will stop more determined thieves for a vintage vehicle without an immobilizer you get a brake pedal lock. Can't get most cars into gear without being able to push the brake and even if you could it's hard to drive one without a functioning brake.
That said if a thief really wants your car they'll just aquire a tow truck and drag it off or onto a flat bed.
Cragified NEVER saw a car with such feature (inability to put into gear without brake)... Well unless you parked uphill (which is still managable but can be risky sometimes). Maybe it's because I live in Europe (Poland to be precise), 95% of people here drive manual since well forever and you're talking about something what automatic transmission car would have, I don't know... Never heard of it anyway
And driving without brake pedal, well... Determined, skilled car thief would easily make it with careful handbrake use (+might as well have some fun drifting while at it! lol)
@@UrsusSuperior44 The brake pedal is one of the hardest and strongest components on a vehicle. It has to be up to the rigors of withstanding the forces of panic application as well as manual reversion if the brake booster fails. You would be at it for a very long time trying to cut through it with hand tools. Coupled with cars long requiring brake pedal application before they will go into gear on automatics, predating even immobilizers its a far more effective security measure.
Well, not denying those facts, but still, such lock wouldn't do much theft-prevention in manual transmission car (which is VAST majority in my country).
I just was surprised with "most cars can't get into gear without pushing brake pedal" statement - I saw really few automatic transmission cars (from the inside) in my life (well, they're not THAT uncommon in PL, it's just me), and obviously never drove one, I only drive "stick" and to be honest I wouldn't really want to switch to automatic, manual is fun
Learning something new every day! :)
Yes, it's called the neutral safety switch. The reason being that a hydrocouple automatic will start if in any gear due to the internal slip. And then proceed to run over things, sadly people have been killed in such accidents even though it sounds silly. Usually by someone looking at something under the hood while an assistant starts the vehicle which then crushes the first person against a garage wall etc.
Depending on the make the the neutral safety switch prevent the transmission physically or electrically from shifting out of park or neutral without the brake being held down. A traditional manual can't really hard the same system correct as you are always passing through neutral between gears. However there are neutral safety switches on manual transmission clutch pedals that will disable the starter if the clutch isn't held down. Driving a vehicle on just the parking brake would be quite the risky thing to do just to steal a car for convience, which is what most car theft is about. Someone just wanting a ride.
I'm guessing that was a "feature", so you can get it off, without breaking anything if you lose your keys.
surely you'd keep the key with your vehicle keys...
Nitrxgen I was thinking if you lost your main set, and had a key to the car in one of those magnetic key holders but never got around to adding the spare Club key. I'm sure it's happened.
then you won't even be able to unlock your car let alone get the steering lock off -- look, maybe I'm too organised with my keys but if you got keys you'll regularly use together, you'd always keep them together (car keys + steering lock keys for example), if you have any sense you'd do the same with your spare keys too... i don't think a lock should be purposely made vulnerable in case keys are lost unless there exists a significant fire hazard where a lock would need to be broken quickly for emergency services and that doesn't really apply with a steering lock, that's just my opinion
David Howard like I said. If you lost your main keys you could still have a spare vehicle key in a magnetic key box outside of the vehicle. But if you never had the spare Club key or lost it before adding it to the magnetic box, you could non destructively remove the Club. They are bright yellow for a reason. 90% of what it does is keep someone from even attempting to steal the car. Most theives would pass up the clubbed car for the one next to it with nothing just for times sake.
This comment is super old but oh well. Id rather have a secure lock that i have to drill/call a locksmith to get off. Than a lock that is easily defeatable with a no skill attack.
I live in a high car theft area, and back when the Club first came out, any car in the area that dared to put one on their steering wheel found all four tires slashed and often all their windows smashed as well.
Lol
Better than finding that your car is gone.
Geeze, I actually remember those days!!!
Thanks for showing the thieves how to break this lock.
This does not contribute to theft; these vulnerabilities are old and well known.
What it does is contribute to us, the viewers, knowing the vulnerabilities of these locks, so we can make informed decisions.
Thieves are aided by ignorant people buying insecure locks, not by talking about well known techniques.
Reminds of a story a friend of mine told me. He bought a Chinese padlock and it worked pretty well, then he noticed something at the back of the padlock had some kind of button, he pressed it and the locked opened. I don't know if he was telling the truth or not though.
bruh
Thank you for a very informative video. I did buy a club and use it for a visual deterrent alarm. But I also had a hidden electric kill switch, a key box hidden fuel shut off and a lojac. Several hundred dollars is a small price to pay to try and keep my truck from being stolen. They can always tow it but I hope not. I like the peace of mind of the Lojac. Talked to a policeman and he said they are good at helping them recover vehicles.
The manufacturers laughing maniacally and rubbing their palms together at the genius of their perfectly camouflaged black rubber plug.
"wait a second the black rubber of the club on this car i'm breaking into at 4am has some black rubber on it!"
It's always good to see an alternative opening added to the pick video !
Well done as usual...
I'd....steer.... clear of this.... wheelie.... bad lock.
Charlie Fleming STOP
LOL nice one... wheelie nice
In the name of love?
Very punny.
TH-cam ToS clearly states only 1 pun per post.
Had lost the only keys I had to a very similar club lock and this saved my ass. Exact same exploit worked like a charm. Thank you sir!
When i bought my 84 monte carlo when i was in high school it came with a club, i used to just stick it on the steering wheel without even locking it, to act as a visual deterrent, without having to take the time locking and unlocking it...
I have a street legal UTV and I use one of these and lock it. Its open air with no doors. I understand the vulnerabilities with this and only use it as an addition to all the other extra anti-theft stuff I use so a thief will just notice in a few seconds "this is gonna take a lot of time" and move on. I use The Club in addition to a cable lock through the front and rear wheels and usually park next to a pole and use an additional cable lock from a secure mounting point to the frame. I also install a brake disc alarm and I also have one of the small motorcycle motion sensor alarms with a remote. One time I went to the mall with a friend close to a high crime area. I grabbed lunch with him and sat outside. I watched as every several minutes cars would drive by slow and someone would walk by and look around case the area. One pulled made the alarm beep. Yea. You have to cut two cables just to move it then you cant steer it unless you cut The Club and meanwhile you got two different ear piercing alarms going off. Yea, go ahead and try it a$$hole. Hahaha!!!
This guy sounds like a chiropractor when he's picking a lock.
I'd be wholly unimpressed if my chiropractor sat there seeing if he could get a click out of each of my vertebrae individually.
@@DNRTannen I'd probably be scared
I'd like to see a chiropractor picking a lock.
I wonder what it would sound like.
"Full rotation clockwise"
I thought more like a dentist
Thanks for the video! I was about to leave to go buy this model but then this popped up.
Thank you! But now I’m back to square one.
IDK what’s best.
What did you decide to buy?
@@aaron.0303 I bought the Twin Hook Club, but NOT the one in the video, (the yellow one). I bought the Twin Hook that is GOLD. It doesn't have the flaw mentioned in this video. Instead of a rubber plug it has a metal plug that has been inserted by machine pressure. It's impossible to remove. I'm happy with it and bought another for my daughter's car.
My parents used one of the single prong clubs way back when. The car got stolen after someone hack sawed through the steering wheel ( They first tried to cut the locking lug oddly enough ). They managed to take off with the car, but only got a mile down the road before the engine blew.
That is a terrible weakness . I agree ,totally inexcusable! Great picking and review brother
Back in the 80s, a guy in the office complained thieves stole his car by bending the steering wheel to remove the club (one with the single hooks).
Gary Rumain Yeah the wheel is designed not to hurt your face too much in a crash. They don't have much strength front to back.
If the car was stolen... how does he know how they got it off...? I assume he didn't just watch as someone stole his car.
@@mattlafy Most stolen cars aren't kept and ate usually found not long after
That's how it was always done in Jackson where I grew up saws take work just take a hammer to it and leave before they get out to you
@@mattlafy Maybe he got the car back, with an obvious difference. Or not.
I like these videos my mother in law purchased a few wheel locks for her car and I thank you for helping me show her how they don't help for shit!!!
It’s probably pretty difficult to do when the lock is on a steering wheel, on most modern cars the centre of the wheel is solid, which would Block access to the hole in the club.
Nope, from the video one can see that the face of the rubber plug is perpendicular to the plane of the steering wheel, easily accessible.
I’m surprise the rubber plug doesn’t say “Open here so you can open it here!!!” on it!!!
Even on food packaging "open here" instructions have been more difficult to open than this lock :D
it's for honest thieves
LOL I was thinking the same thing. Too funny
Or reverse psychology. a big label saying "UNDER THIS PLUG IS NOT AN EXPLOIT! REMOVING THIS PLUG WILL ONLY MAKE IT HARDER TO OPEN! "
@@PsychoticBovine that isn't reverse psychology
My old 205 GTi had a removable steering wheel. No one ever attempted to steal this car in over 3 years.
This was on home page, decided to watch despite having massive headache. And it turns out that just making volume a little lower than normal is all it takes with LPL. One of the few that I can watch and listen to with a nasty headache.
No one cares.
Funny, a few months ago a lady lost the keys to her off brand club, found this same vulnerability and bent a tension wrench to push the lug back, I always assumed it was the cheap company not a stolen design😂😂😂
Well, you could always beat the thief to death with the "Club".
That IS pretty much all they are good for.
A friend of mine used his for exactly that. Well, to knock out a few teeth/possibly broke his jaw. But the sentiment is the same.
@Tech Guy17 Haa, haaa.
The trunk monkey would be a much better choice
Super easy to fix with sandpaper, wax and jb weld. Rough the inside of the plug area, light coat of wax on the chrome bar with the bar fully inserted so no notches are showing, and fill in the hole with a little jb weld. And let dry. After it dries, slide out bar and clean off wax.
And that's why videos like this are important. It sparks a discussion where good ideas such as this can be put out there for people and manufacturers to see. Plug that hole!
and so they just use the cable cutters to cut the steering wheel, a CLUB is USELESS and won't do shit to stop a real car thief that actually wants your car for more then a joy ride.
It won't matter. It takes mere seconds to get one of these off the steering wheel. You could put the strongest lock known on it, and armor that to insane levels and it would not impede the thief at all. The stupid devices are still attached to the weak steering wheel.
Questions, no questions at all, love your videos, you breaking every damn lock on the planet...
It's amazing how obvious all the flaws are that you find. Almost as if they are intentional.
They probably are intentional
In the early 1970's, the Australian Govt made steering locks mandatory. This of course just made car thieves target cars sold before the new law came into effect. So some importer started selling steering wheel locks a bit like the one shown in this video but with single hooks and made from square tubing instead of round tubing. One day I got a call from my girlfriend. She had lost her key. Upon inspecting the lock, I couldn't see how it could be easily picked so I put the driver's seat well back, my feet on the steering wheel and got a firm grip on the lock. I pulled hard and broke it - it wasn't actually that difficult - didn't do the slightest damage to the steering wheel. After a few months, the consumer protection authority made the importer cease sales and refund all purchasers, as car thieves were all doing what I did.
These sorts of add-on things are generally made and/or sold by shysters. There is another design with a longer shaft that links the steering wheel to the brake pedal. It too is removable in under a second by just using brute force.
Lock picking lawyer says the single hook designs are defeated by thieves hacksawing a piece out of the steering wheel. I very much doubt that - the thief would need a) a hacksaw, and b) many many minutes of time (inside the plastic is usually a steel core) and he couldn't get up a good cutting stroke - not enough room. 95% of thefts are opportunist - the thief walks past and spots an unlocked car or a make/model that is easily defeated. Like 1970's Ford Cortinas - my mother had one and lost her ignition key. I examined the steering column lock and then defeated it by using a screwdriver to bend a mild steel tab out of the way, freeing the steering wheel, and hot wired the car so she could drive it. A couple of days later she found her key, so I bent the tab back again.
What do you mean "the Australian govt made them mandatory"? Sounds like something the Australian nanny state would do, but are you saying they forced you to use them?
@@littlejackalo5326 : I was talking about the integral steering/ignition locks that were factory fitted 1970's onward. If the government makes all the people do something, that's a nanny state. This is not the case here. Here the government "forced" manufacturers to do something.- to the benefit of everybody except thieves.
I put "forced" in quotes as within a few years all cars would have had steering wheel locks anyway as it became common practice world wide.
However, Australian governments have had nanny state tendencies in other matters - eg bicycle riders are forced by law to wear helmets, which only protect riders in unusual crashes, and benefits bicycle shops selling helmets.
clubs use to be everywhere, now i can't remember the last time i seen one....
That's because for awhile, the resistor or transponder in the ignition key meant that the car wasn't going anywhere without the correct key even if the steering wheel could turn. It also didn't help these steering wheel locks when airbags got bigger and the lock would damage the face.
Now that we're seeing vulnerabilities in the transponder systems, I wouldn't be surprised if these sorts of systems start returning.
TWX1138
very informative, thanks
a pair of large cable cutters will slice right through a steering wheel in a FRACTION the time it took this guy to pick the lock and allow easy removal of ANY steering wheel lock, they fell out of favor because of how easy they are to bypass.
My grandpa still uses one in his old Ford
my uncle used to use one on his 97' camry
Impressive for sure that it took you that long. They must have improved their mechanism. My club was the first lock I ever picked when getting into the hobby back in the 90's, and it only took me, a beginner, a few seconds.
It's an emergency opening hole in case you lose your keys.*
*May result in losing your whole car, as well.
What are those small devices for picking a lock called?
@@robielovinger9906 ....lockpicks?
I love it when you say something will slow us down some and you still pick it about 1 minute.
Wrap the bar with tape so that it can be seen through the hole with the club collapsed. this will to keep epoxy off the bar. Then fill the hole with epoxy or jam a piece of metal in the hole and cover with epoxy.
I'd have to say that's the best wafer core that I've EVER seen - with the exception of the Chicago dual spool wafer lock.
“I’m surprised how fast your snail is!” Have you hired an out of work comedian to write for you? Seriously, that “bypass hole” is inexcusable. This video is a good public service announcement.
I have this lmao. Time to get the welder out! Hilarious that “Winner International” missed this.
Our biggest flaw with the twin hook Club was that the key to the club could be used to start my wife's car. You could not, however, remove the key or stop the car once you did this.
the clicks on this one are really satisfying to hear!
I think this lock takes a lot longer to pick than the other locks that LPL picks!
Good job showing the thieves how to do it
When he pointed out the rubber plug I started laughing like a lunatic.
Got a solid laugh out of [it’s kind of like saying “I’m surprised how fast your snail is”] when putting the “fight” the lock gave him in context
The photos on Amazon show that these can easily be bent in half and taken off without even messing with the lock.
Wow, they either didn't put too much thought into the design or they just didn't care. Thanks for the video and saving me money..
I love how he always thank me at the end of the videos, even tho he's the one who taught me how to get free bikes
I know you're not a real thief; thieves are too stupid to watch TH-cam.
@@heyidiot it obviously doesn't take much to watch TH-cam if your here
That has to be one of the best wafer cores featured on this channel...
all wafer cores are shit, it takes longer to pick it than using a shearpoint key and will easily damage the wafers and jam it ,!
If you fork out the extra money to get the 3100 the plug is metal.
@Michael Persico Or get your local garage to cover it with a weld.
@@MonkeyJedi99 I just put jb weld
@@notmetagaming Ooh! I forgot about JB Weld. That stuff is magic.
@@MonkeyJedi99 steel stick would work great too
Your basically giving tips how to open it, your a genius!!!!
The Club is a great way to install a convenient handle to allow easy defeat of the steering wheel lock. Then it doubles as a handle to bend the wheel so as to remove the Club itself
"a convenient handle to allow easy defeat of the steering wheel lock" longer end should be blocked in the corner of your car then you are not be able to move the steering wheel at all. But from quick google search i can see that most people are not instaling it like that... propably because half of people on this planet are part of two digit IQ club.
You're not bending a steering wheel enough to get a 2 pronged club off. Is it possible? Sure. Is it happening? No. Definitely not happening if you straddle one of the spokes on the wheel with the prongs of the club.
What no one mentions, is that these locks are meant to be installed with the cylinder facing the dashboard, not the driver. Makes using the key a PITA. Makes picking it an even bigger PITA.
But then that places the silly little rubber plug directly into view. So which is worse?
Putting the key facing backwards with this club would either put the lock facing the steering wheel, or use only two of the four hooks. And put the plug staring right at you, as previously mentioned
This video got me curious as to why people use wafer locks, and I discovered the existence of a crushable wafer. I'm curious, do you have any locks with crushable wafers in your collection? The Internet suggests they were abandoned at some point due to inherent problems with the system, but it doesn't really specify when, and it might be a bit of a collector's item.
Well it works anyway. Car thieves have said on many occasions that they skip the cars with any steering wheel locks. They don't want to spend any extra seconds in a car.
I used similar one back in the 1980's. The thieves who stole my car used it to break all the car's windows after they had slid off the road into a ditch. Wish I had not used it at all as then my windows might have survived ...
I have one of these (gotta check if it has the hole in it). I bought it as a visual deterrent and physical deterrent. Assuming the hole on mine is there or if have to plug it, it is still yet another step to steal my vehicle. I didn't buy it thinking it was going to stop theft because NO device can do that. But if someone sees it and decides to move on to an easier target, then I say it did its job. Also if they don't know how to remove it, thieves would not be able to leave because you can only turn the steering wheel partially. They wouldn't even make it out of my parking spot with the club on... Realistically, there are plenty of other cars in my parking garage which are worth a lot more and are far easier to steal....
"I'm surprised how fast your snail is..." OMGGGG DYING HERE 😂😂😂😂
Thanks for showing that plug. I was able to machine a steel plug that I epoxied and screwed into place. works fine.
The best vehicle theft deterrent is a manual transmission or a start procedure that begins to resemble that of a light aircraft. Or both. That's fine too.
Or have a car with a carrying avlue of $400
A manual? Come on that's gotta be a myth.
So this just popped up on my feed. A day late and a dollar short. But it brought to mind a story, so indulge me.... I was living in a small mountain community in Colorado. We only had one grocery store. A tourist (we had lots of them) was driving a 30 year old mini-van packed to the gills with...I'll be generous...stuff. He put a club on his wheel. As I was coming out of the store, he was loading his groceries and then fidgeting with his club wheel lock to get it off. What he didn't realize was that in this small community, no one locked a car door, and in 9/10 times the keys for the car could be found in one of three spots: in the visor, under the floor mat, or in the center console/ignition. No one would steal a 30 year old mini-van when a 6 month old pickup was free for the taking. Oh, afterwards, we did have a couple of teens take a couple of pickups for joy rides (from their homes), but a small town in the middle of nowhere, the pickups were quickly found and so were the kids.
I’m reminded of a story, back in the early 1990s, where a soldier, stationed at Ft. Bliss, went out to check on his vehicle and the car was gone but The Club®️ attached to the steering wheel was left behind.
I think that prying off that rubber stopper is the hardest thing he's ever done on the channel
Hi Harry, clever little bypass - trust you to find it! You don't often see them nowadays, with the advent of transponder keys and steering locks as original equipment. The car thieves were removing them from the steering wheel by smacking the end of the shaft with a hammer, and collapsing the ratcheting pall. I guess the best way to install would be with the long shaft facing the wind shield. Regards, Brian.
Only if you could angle it into the corner of the wind shield. Otherwise, you could just move it by rotating the steering wheel. I can't remember how much reach the original ones had but I seem to recall that most people had them up against the driver's door sill so you couldn't steer well if you started the car (unless you drove with the door open).
Not that long ago I remember a TV spot where they just took off the steering wheel and used vice-grips to drive...LOL Back during the popularity of 'The Club'. Like any lock the idea is to stop a kids from taking the vehicle and joy riding not an actual thief.
Brian Hignett this would make it come off
I found if I put the long shaft down towards the seat, of anyone would hacksaw or bolt cut they would have to do so outside of the vehicle because the club is blocking their entrance. Again only stops crimes of convenience.
I had one of these put on my car as a joke last week. The rubber plug at the bottom is now a metal insert that I wasn't able to remove. I had some spare brass sheet laying around that is .008" thick. I made a 4" long shim with it and popped the thing off in less than 10 seconds, so I'd say shimming is an extremely viable option.
hey i have the same metal plug at the bottom could you help me?
The best way I've seen anyone prevent their car from being stolen is when Mr Bean detached his car's steering wheel and took it with him while on a picnic. Thief broke into his car but couldn't steal it because it didn't have the steering wheel.
That is both hilarious and impractical and I love it. Best way to make sure a thief only jacks the shit inside the car rather than your car is to make sure that HE needs a steering wheel just to drive yours off! Or some good hand strength
"...I'm surprised how fast your snail is...!!!" 🤣🤣🤣
I’ve been binge watching these videos and I never picked a lock nor own a kit
I've always enjoyed watching your content and this is another example.
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Well done again, like others here have asked what is the purpose of that hole to begin with?? Why in the world would they put that in such a compromising place, there's got to be a reason...
Phil J my guess is that it makes (the crappy) lock faster to assemble.
A better question is, "Why don't they seal it properly?"
Great. Show the Ives how to get through my lock. Nice!
Day 1: likes. Day 2: subscribes. Day 7: buys lock picking tools. I guess you have impressed me
Yeah lol same
@@josephpayne113 - day 11 finds and picks a master#3 in less than 3 minutes. It's a start
This seems to be a pretty standard progression.
I timed him taking about two minutes to pick that lock... TH-cam shows thieves using hack saws on the steering wheel in 13 seconds. Few people would have the skills to pick the lock even after watching this video. Again the Club is just a deterrent and thieves will hopefully pick another vehicle
Exactly. Most car thieves will NOT attempt to take time to pick a lock!! The club works fine!!
Time to replace my rubber stopper with something sane... yeesh.
Now your talkin!!
Weld it shut
@@Christian23242 Possible if the lock body can take the heat.
Thanks for the video, I was thinking to buy one of this lock.
How many lowlifes out there looking for a joyride have the knowledge and skill of a locksmith?
I once lost the keys to one of this, I had a junior hack saw. It took me just 15 strokes (10 seconds) to cut the rod at the thinnest part of the ratchet bar .
You're gonna have every thug in (insert city here) looking for that particular "Club" in the cars they're targeting. :-)
That said, I still like the old tried and true idea of a hidden stopcock somewhere on the fuel line. Add GPS tracking and you're likely to keep your ride.
or hidden switch to disable fuel pump. more than anything the point of the club though is to stop the thief from entering your vehicle in the first place. it's a visual deterrent and disabling the vehicle mechanically or electrically is not.
Same reason chip keyed cars have that little flashing LED.
A lot of new cars use plastic fuel lines lol simplist way would be to pull the fuel pump relay but doing that repeatedly would probably wear out the contacts in the panel
Electronic kill switchjust kill the ground of your battery, with a relay and switch inside the cabin
Or drive a car with a manual transmission, that'll keep 2/3 of the thieves from taking it.
@@upyoursassmonkey EXACTLY
Back in the 90s, the single hook red Club had an issue I found by mistake.
The ratchet was held in by a ball bearing. There was a metal stopper that was painted over. It rusted enough through winter's that the stopper was loose and the ball bearing (and a spring) fell out of The Club.
After that, it was totally useless since I didn't have a welder to put it back together and there weren't enough internet vendors out there for me to get decent glues (J-B Weld) to put it back together.
And somehow they will claim that you did not "defeat" their lock
thus not having to pay out on their guaranty.
Have not yet figured out what their definition of "defeat" is yet.
Manufacturers: “guaranteed not to be defeated”
LPL: takes less than a minute
Manufacturers: “errrr not that kind of defeated”
Right, like that would ever pay out. Should've asked them when I found mine picked on the floor in my stolen car.
All these clubs suffer from the same problem. the metal in teh steering wheels is really soft and made to bend quite easily. You can bend some steering wheels with your bare hands. Due to this, it is a safety feature, cutting wheels on battery tools cut through a steering wheel in seconds. A small notch and no more club!