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I have read some reviews people left and people are talking about the paint chipping and discoloration. Do you have any plans for the next batch released to have a powder coat or different paint prep to prevent it? Thank you for the time. I apologize if I’m coming off as rude it’s not my intent.
As someone from California, this would be one of the best things to carry around. There's also TSA, which is also gonna be funny. And just fidgeting with it while on a plane confusing the other passengers and the flight attendants.
This is like when you throw a bunch of fodder mooks at the main character in an action movie, and he just fucking slaps the shit out of all of them with zero effort.
@@gemhunter498I've been known to pick a lock or two. Right out of the packaging too. No rehearsal. I'll admit that Master Locks are relatively easy although, I'd really like to see you or anyone else try it. You'd be surprised.
This was reviewed on another channel (yes my eyes wander) She said it was well made. Metal. Sturdy - each pick was securely held without flopping around. Fun to play with. Comes with tools to change parts. Box was well done. While not "a universal key" it is an EDC item.
I'm glad i didn't wait. This is beyond a fidget toy. It's a great on body first pick for easy jobs before taking the time to dig out the hooks. I'll keep the rake on it. Seems perfect the way it came, though. I appreciate having options I dont think I'll reconfigure it.
ive been advised that 'to help me give up smoking, i should find something else to do with my hands', and baugga me, here it is! Perfect gift for someone like myself... at least until it gets worn out ;)
might make it too bulky, but it would be nice if there was a way to store at least one extra pick option in the handle. Eg, so you can change between hook and rake.
Exactly, I’m sure its hard to design, but since the picks themselves are rather thin, having all three options inside the handle and utilizing a 3-position selector switch on the side to place a movable opening in front of the desired pick - now that would make for an awesome EDC tool well worth a premium price!
@@ritterkeksI think this is more of a novelty item than an EDC tool. Because if you want an EDC tool, just go get the covert companion because then instead of having a meager four options you have pretty much every single tool you could realistically need as a locksmith or as a pen tester or whatever
@@the_undead Rather than one tool being "EDC" and the other being just a fidget-toy, I'd rather think of both being at different ends of the EDC spectrum. it's not always about how much functionality you can cram into something.
Mine came in yesterday!!!!!!! (After the post office lost the package in transit). I cannot legally describe the tingles on this platform that this puts through my body. Thank you so so much for coming out with these.
Lmao, throwing Masterlock under the bus immediately. "One of the NEW ones, with ball bearings!" Proceeds to wave rake it open. A well deserved reputation.
For anyone curious, the pocket knife he's presumably talking about is the Reate Exo. A modern gravity knife with the same kind of action. Fair warning, they're expensive, but man are they cool.
Knew the design inspiration the moment he pulled it from the box. Wonder if Reate agreed to be the oem here…? And not a bad way to get one’s hands on the fun of the design, if the knife is too rich a price tag. I’m genuinely torn.
To be fair, i did actually buy this... it comes with the four picks like he said, the tension tool, also an additional piece that anchors the pick to the unit, several replacement screws, the tool to remove and replace the screws as well as an additional set of the bogota picks... and i have already tried them out on my own personal deadbolt and can say that it does work very well
The GravPick needs a big brother with a couple of different turning tools and a selector switch that allows the user to select which tool to instantly deploy - with 2 or 3 different rakes and a couple of different hooks.
It’s not irresponsible if having it for the one single time you’ll ever need it is worth however much you paid for it! I try to look at purchases that way. If the amount of use I will get out of a product is either A) a lot of use or B) a very important use case, then that makes it more worthwhile to me.
@@ggsapI though he said locks interesting which I thought was a nice pun, so I would have hated on your reply only to reread the original comment, I could go on telling you my life story now but I think I wasted enough of your time, the time you would totally 100% have spent on something productive anyways, goodbye internet stranger! I hope today is a good day for you btw!
I have one myself and I have to say my favorite pick that I own though I've swapped my pick to the short hook as I've found it to be more reliable the grav pick is super fun and easy for every day carry however you may need some additional locktite for some of the screws as fidgeting with it can loosen them they come with locktite on them already but in some cases it may not be enough
I got mine, and I have a quick review of it. Edit: Mine jams up quite a bit. Because of how wobble it has, it can sometimes hit the sides and get jammed up. So, I just used some of my metal working tools and widened that area out a little bit, no more jamming up. 1) The *grav* part? I love it. The mechanism is so nice, even though it does bind up sometimes when trying to close it. That's probably just lack of practice. 2) I *hate* that small allen key that it comes with. It's just so slippery and annoying when trying to manage such tiny screws. 3) It's a little sad it doesn't come with a case or any way to *quickly* change the tools. For example, if you want to go from a rake to any of the other tools, you've got to unscrew the base (I think anyway, the QR codes for the instructional videos don't work. They just go right to the Covert Instruments TH-cam page), remove the old tool, and then either A) swap the mounting mechanism with the new pick, or B) use the included extra mounting mechanism and slide that in, but it requires you know which 2 picks you'll use most often. And then put the other picks and screws back in the plastic bag (which is such a pain in the ass to open and close). My GravPick weirdly came with the Bogota set, which is definitely pretty awesome. Overall, it feels unfinished. There should be a way to more quickly swap between the different picks, and there should either A) be a case/pouch to store everything that you can carry WITH the GravPick, or B) the GravPick itself should have somewhere to store the extra picks. I know it's a size constraint, but I don't think people would mind it being a little bit bigger to have a better user-experience overall. I hope there is a V2 in the future that alleviates some of these annoyances. If I'm carrying this thing around, I'm not going to carry it around in the box in comes with (thought, it is a nice box), but I also don't want to carry the little plastic bag with tiny screws and picks in it in my pocket just in case I need to swap them out. That defeats the purpose of the size. I'm not sure this tool is actually meant to be used more than it is just a fidget toy with a few lock picks included. For the price of $65 USD, taxes (~$5), and shipping (also ~$5, so $75 all-in), I would not recommend this product. BUT, back to my first point, DAMN it feels good when you get comfortable flicking the pick out and back in.
I got mine last week. I love it. The fidget factory it 10. Opens just about everything. My only complaint is the turning tool. The .40 doesn’t fit a few of my locks (brinks). It would be nice if there was a .30 turner in the box.
If I had even a passing need to pick locks with any regularity, I'd be all over this. The couple of times I have needed to get into something that was behind a lock without a key, I got in eventually.
My work backpack always had a basic set of picks for legit use. On a rare occasion my 16" bolt cutters were needed to be brought in, but that would be pre-cleared with building management in advance just on the very slim chance I'd be stopped along the way to or from work.
L.P.L.... are there truly any unpickable locks? Is there a lock you can't open? Thank you for your content And all that you do. You're the best. Sincerely, The Kentucky Kid.
I've seen some comments below about countries banning gravity knifes. But did you know that there is another country that reached peak stupidity? Poland. In Poland lockpicking tools are forbidden by law. Yes. Someone with vacuum between ears thought that banning lockpicks will make everyone safe. Highest detachment from reality I've ever seen.
@@jdsim9173 Seriously??? As stupid as such law is you are still in better position than Poland because at least you can buy shotgun at Wallmart and just bust lock open.
I think the one thing that would be a nice add for this is to have some way to hold onto at least one spare tool so you can have a rake standard and a backup hook for un-rakeable locks all in the one tool. I know the covert companion exists, but this books smaller and more fun lol
I want one for sure. I think one unintentional benefit is the larger handle, which could be better ergonomically. Some picks have really thin handles and it's not fun to hold those when you're struggling to pick a lock in a long session, or just for better grip when raking.
People might think it looks easy when he does it, but it’s nowhere near as easy as it seems. There’s so much finger dexterity involved. The perfect timing between pressure and tension-both with the spanner and with the rakes/snakes-is crucial.
That *does* look like fun! And also convenient for traveling light, though I guess that depends on one thing: do the various tips all store inside, like the turning tool does? Or do you have to carry a little baggy with you to switch from raking to single-pin picking?
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Got mine!
damn that was fast :(
I wanted to buy one, but apparantly my country is restricted from purchase at your site for some odd reason... ?!
I have read some reviews people left and people are talking about the paint chipping and discoloration. Do you have any plans for the next batch released to have a powder coat or different paint prep to prevent it? Thank you for the time. I apologize if I’m coming off as rude it’s not my intent.
Activating the alert on the channel also helps for future releases. That's how I bought mine in time.
I think we just observed 6 flukes in a row.
😂😂
My thoughts exactly. He only did it once each...
Five. The third one was a Master Lock.
There's your basic difference between a lockpicking video and a product showcase video
@@andrewfrance1047
So... Four then, right? Because the TriMax was raked even faster than the Master. :)
"No, officer, this isn't an illegal gravity knife. It's just my lockpick."
''Оh!? That makes this so much better! You may go now.''
While trespassing
Like that's not going to get you in more trouble?
As someone from California, this would be one of the best things to carry around.
There's also TSA, which is also gonna be funny. And just fidgeting with it while on a plane confusing the other passengers and the flight attendants.
In Poland I could have a knife with me but not a lockpick, so not a wise strategy around here 🙃
You know it's gonna be a slaughter when LPL drops 6 locks on the table with 1:30 left on the clock and the video isn't even about the locks...
I'm still waiting for the day where instead of the wave rake he simply waves his hand over them and they unlock! LOL
This is like when you throw a bunch of fodder mooks at the main character in an action movie, and he just fucking slaps the shit out of all of them with zero effort.
@@gojeffgordon24 Mexican wave rake? 🤣🤣
@@gojeffgordon24 He did one with a magnet without touching it, I think
I knew it was going to be a slaughter the instant he had the wave rake out
Dude had to rake SIX locks just to make the vid 2 minutes long! What a legend!
"I can play with this all day long, and I have done so in the past." - Could also work perfectly for an April 1 video.
Yup, sad Coq noises.
Rewarding yourself with your own work is an amazing concept
The joys of toy making!
Any Game developer who has passion on what they work on will tell you the same thing, hopefully.
I can tell it's fun, you kept playing with it even during the outro!
That's marketing for you :D
He'll go blind if he doesn't stop 😂😂😂
This is probably the only time I’ve seen him do anything during the outro.
I don't even pick locks and I want one of these.
Haha same I even went to the site to see how much it was. 🙂
@@billjames8036Im too lazy. How much?
$65!
I think that was the purpose.
seconded
Master lock hears "Hello, this is the Lock Picking Lawyer" and just opens immediately.
It just drops it's guts on the table and quivers in terror 😂
It looks like LPL has been holding back on his real raking speed for Masterlocks. Ringer.
True, but the lock opens before he even finished his sentence
@@gemhunter498I've been known to pick a lock or two. Right out of the packaging too. No rehearsal. I'll admit that Master Locks are relatively easy although, I'd really like to see you or anyone else try it. You'd be surprised.
I thought it would open when he put the tensioner in, just out of fear.
what's also fun is the carrot attack we've been waiting for 🥕🥕🥕
But he is using a carrot. That's why we keep watching.
@@RhinoBarbarian😅
We want the carrot!
There should definitely be more non destructive openings via the application of carrots on this channel...... Well, at least just the one time anyway!
Carrot carrot carrot carrot carrot.
It’s like one of those martial arts movies where the henchmen attack the hero one by one and get easily smacked aside.
Or one of Steven Seagal's Aikido demonstrations 😆
"Who knew locks also suffer from 'The Law of Conservation of Ninjitsu'"😂
@@wbrennan2253 I am stealing that phrase.
@@hiltonian_1260 Alas, it is not mine. I heard it from a video. Search in "Trope Talks" for it. From Overly Sarcastic Productions.
LPL: "I'm gonna show off a cool new thing we made over on Covert Instruments,"
LPL: Casually embarrasses every major lock maker
A cool product advertisement, some personal introspection snd six locks opened in under three minutes. Well done!
Six flukes in a row!
Five. The third one was a Master Lock, those are never a fluke
@ 🤣
No way instantly sold out, first youtuber thing ive ever wanted to buy instantly and now I'll have to wait
This was reviewed on another channel (yes my eyes wander) She said it was well made. Metal. Sturdy - each pick was securely held without flopping around. Fun to play with.
Comes with tools to change parts. Box was well done.
While not "a universal key" it is an EDC item.
EDC item?
@@Pasha231514 EDC stands for every day carry, which in this case I wouldn't necessarily agree with but to each their own.
@@Pasha231514 Sorry.
EDC = Every Day Carry
What you always have on you: wallet, watch, keys, pocket knife, cash to make the day better.
@@allenshepard7992 How many locks are you encountering? Or do you just need something to fiddle with?
@@Pasha231514everyday carry
I'm glad i didn't wait. This is beyond a fidget toy. It's a great on body first pick for easy jobs before taking the time to dig out the hooks.
I'll keep the rake on it. Seems perfect the way it came, though. I appreciate having options I dont think I'll reconfigure it.
ive been advised that 'to help me give up smoking, i should find something else to do with my hands', and baugga me, here it is!
Perfect gift for someone like myself... at least until it gets worn out ;)
might make it too bulky, but it would be nice if there was a way to store at least one extra pick option in the handle. Eg, so you can change between hook and rake.
just buy two...
@@JohnW118 Is that you, Tim Cook? 😎
Exactly, I’m sure its hard to design, but since the picks themselves are rather thin, having all three options inside the handle and utilizing a 3-position selector switch on the side to place a movable opening in front of the desired pick - now that would make for an awesome EDC tool well worth a premium price!
@@ritterkeksI think this is more of a novelty item than an EDC tool. Because if you want an EDC tool, just go get the covert companion because then instead of having a meager four options you have pretty much every single tool you could realistically need as a locksmith or as a pen tester or whatever
@@the_undead Rather than one tool being "EDC" and the other being just a fidget-toy, I'd rather think of both being at different ends of the EDC spectrum. it's not always about how much functionality you can cram into something.
Mine came in yesterday!!!!!!! (After the post office lost the package in transit). I cannot legally describe the tingles on this platform that this puts through my body. Thank you so so much for coming out with these.
"Fidget toy potential" is right
That looks **incredibly** satisfying to handle. Great product!
🥹😂
Props on a cool product. I see these flying off the shelf for Christmas.
Oh my gosh take my money! I just ordered one for the fun of trying it out 😮
There will be this kind of lockpicks in the movies soon :D
I could totally see this in a movie scene!
Now that "Breakdancing" is out of the Olympics we have a spot available for 'Fastest Lockpicker'. 🤣
Lmao, throwing Masterlock under the bus immediately. "One of the NEW ones, with ball bearings!" Proceeds to wave rake it open.
A well deserved reputation.
For anyone curious, the pocket knife he's presumably talking about is the Reate Exo. A modern gravity knife with the same kind of action. Fair warning, they're expensive, but man are they cool.
Knew the design inspiration the moment he pulled it from the box. Wonder if Reate agreed to be the oem here…? And not a bad way to get one’s hands on the fun of the design, if the knife is too rich a price tag. I’m genuinely torn.
I hate that this video pushed me over the edge to finally buy one.
And I also love it.
To be fair, i did actually buy this... it comes with the four picks like he said, the tension tool, also an additional piece that anchors the pick to the unit, several replacement screws, the tool to remove and replace the screws as well as an additional set of the bogota picks... and i have already tried them out on my own personal deadbolt and can say that it does work very well
What an advert for locks that consumers should avoid!!!!
So far it's been every lock. 🤣
@@Graeme758 Yup.
@@Graeme758 Doesn't he have a box of ones that he can't open or are very difficult? ... or maybe I'm thinking of a Bosnian Bill video.
@@benwu7980 I will look for that, I haven't seen it.
So good to see a new video from you. It's awesome as always.
The GravPick needs a big brother with a couple of different turning tools and a selector switch that allows the user to select which tool to instantly deploy - with 2 or 3 different rakes and a couple of different hooks.
Now you guys are just pure stylin' on locks :D And I'm all here for it!
Did I just make an irresponsible purchase in order to be one of the first few to get this? Yes.
Would I have done it again if given the chance? Yes.
🙂
It’s not irresponsible if having it for the one single time you’ll ever need it is worth however much you paid for it! I try to look at purchases that way. If the amount of use I will get out of a product is either A) a lot of use or B) a very important use case, then that makes it more worthwhile to me.
Just ordered one for my older brothers Christmas gift already complete. Great looking product!
but how does it compare to a carrot?
Absolutely love their tools.
"No, officer, this isn't an illegal gravity knife. It's just my burglary tool."
Your magic lock picking hands make picking look easy. Now you have found a way to make it fun, Thanks lpl
I think "Master Key" would be a better name for any wave rake...
To pair with your Master Locks?
@@AaronOfMpls A Master Key can open any lock, a Master Lock can be opened by any key.
His front door has a smartlock that is opened with a voice command:
"This is the lockpicking lawyer"
It's actually just a regular lock, but it knows its place.
@@khyoyeon554 it smarted up :D
Anyone could get such a lock to open just by replaying one of his 1000+ TH-cam videos to it.
I'm sold just through half the video. Nice!!
They were not opened with a carrot! Does not count
Awesome. You are brilliant. I totally enjoy watching your videos.
2:05 maybe it was just me, but I heard some venom when he said brinks lol
I heard it too. 🤭
Beautiful well crafted locksmiths gadget. Now bring the carrots on 🥕🥕
Stop with this meme already. It’s worn out. LPL ain’t gonna ruin his collection with carrot pulp and juice.
@ it’s not the entire collection. It’s just one lock that was on the vid
Fidget toy + Lockpick = say less! Got mine on order and also "picked" up some deals during the Covert Ins. Black Friday Sale too!
Got mine the week they launched and it is so much fun! Great quality and well thought out design! LOVE IT!!!!!!
Every policeman, Interpol, CIA, FBI know lockpickinglawyer but they never could lock him up.
Looks interesting
what an orignal and thoughtful comment that contributes to the video consuming experience
@@ggsapI know right? Truly inspiring!
@@ggsapI though he said locks interesting which I thought was a nice pun, so I would have hated on your reply only to reread the original comment, I could go on telling you my life story now but I think I wasted enough of your time, the time you would totally 100% have spent on something productive anyways, goodbye internet stranger! I hope today is a good day for you btw!
I have one myself and I have to say my favorite pick that I own though I've swapped my pick to the short hook as I've found it to be more reliable the grav pick is super fun and easy for every day carry however you may need some additional locktite for some of the screws as fidgeting with it can loosen them they come with locktite on them already but in some cases it may not be enough
I was extremely happy at 0:22. I can't wait to see what else they come up with.
I got mine, and I have a quick review of it.
Edit: Mine jams up quite a bit. Because of how wobble it has, it can sometimes hit the sides and get jammed up. So, I just used some of my metal working tools and widened that area out a little bit, no more jamming up.
1) The *grav* part? I love it. The mechanism is so nice, even though it does bind up sometimes when trying to close it. That's probably just lack of practice.
2) I *hate* that small allen key that it comes with. It's just so slippery and annoying when trying to manage such tiny screws.
3) It's a little sad it doesn't come with a case or any way to *quickly* change the tools. For example, if you want to go from a rake to any of the other tools, you've got to unscrew the base (I think anyway, the QR codes for the instructional videos don't work. They just go right to the Covert Instruments TH-cam page), remove the old tool, and then either A) swap the mounting mechanism with the new pick, or B) use the included extra mounting mechanism and slide that in, but it requires you know which 2 picks you'll use most often. And then put the other picks and screws back in the plastic bag (which is such a pain in the ass to open and close).
My GravPick weirdly came with the Bogota set, which is definitely pretty awesome.
Overall, it feels unfinished. There should be a way to more quickly swap between the different picks, and there should either A) be a case/pouch to store everything that you can carry WITH the GravPick, or B) the GravPick itself should have somewhere to store the extra picks. I know it's a size constraint, but I don't think people would mind it being a little bit bigger to have a better user-experience overall. I hope there is a V2 in the future that alleviates some of these annoyances. If I'm carrying this thing around, I'm not going to carry it around in the box in comes with (thought, it is a nice box), but I also don't want to carry the little plastic bag with tiny screws and picks in it in my pocket just in case I need to swap them out. That defeats the purpose of the size. I'm not sure this tool is actually meant to be used more than it is just a fidget toy with a few lock picks included. For the price of $65 USD, taxes (~$5), and shipping (also ~$5, so $75 all-in), I would not recommend this product. BUT, back to my first point, DAMN it feels good when you get comfortable flicking the pick out and back in.
You didn't open the locks again to show they weren't flukes.
He spared us of the extra 10 seconds to do that.
I got mine last week. I love it. The fidget factory it 10. Opens just about everything. My only complaint is the turning tool. The .40 doesn’t fit a few of my locks (brinks). It would be nice if there was a .30 turner in the box.
That thinking pause before "very quickly" on the masterlock 😂
If I had even a passing need to pick locks with any regularity, I'd be all over this. The couple of times I have needed to get into something that was behind a lock without a key, I got in eventually.
My work backpack always had a basic set of picks for legit use. On a rare occasion my 16" bolt cutters were needed to be brought in, but that would be pre-cleared with building management in advance just on the very slim chance I'd be stopped along the way to or from work.
Subtle dog at the lock industry when your pre installed tool is a wave rake, because let's be honest it's all you really need
I hope that by the time the new batch is ready, there are comb pick attachments as well.
I love how he points out the Masterlock is one of the newer ones before showing us how bad it is 😂
I get so much enjoyment from wave rakes 😂😂
You had way too much fun with this video! 😂😂
Its a Fidget tootpick officer
I was sad to miss those first few batches that went on sale on release. Glad to see them back in stock. Picked one up before the video ended.
bbut how are we supposed to know they werent flukes???
nice new pick! thanks lpl and covert instruments!
L.P.L.... are there truly any unpickable locks? Is there a lock you can't open?
Thank you for your content And all that you do. You're the best.
Sincerely, The Kentucky Kid.
He conceded defeat on the Bowley lock, but hasn't been back to try it since, and one or two other pickers have since managed to pick one
"You have a MasterLock Nr3. It can be opened with a MasterLock Nr3."
I've seen some comments below about countries banning gravity knifes. But did you know that there is another country that reached peak stupidity? Poland. In Poland lockpicking tools are forbidden by law. Yes. Someone with vacuum between ears thought that banning lockpicks will make everyone safe. Highest detachment from reality I've ever seen.
Lockpicking tools are illegal in the US as well, unless you're a licensed locksmith.
@@jdsim9173 Seriously??? As stupid as such law is you are still in better position than Poland because at least you can buy shotgun at Wallmart and just bust lock open.
@@bbkr2063 very true
Looks awesome. Just ordered it.
But how do I know they weren't a fluke?
As an armchair knife fan I’m loving this!😊
I think the one thing that would be a nice add for this is to have some way to hold onto at least one spare tool so you can have a rake standard and a backup hook for un-rakeable locks all in the one tool. I know the covert companion exists, but this books smaller and more fun lol
Just ordered mine. Waiting for pocket clip accessory. Hopefully one comes out.
This would be a good prop for a movie. Fully functional lock picking tool with a very stylish movements
I want one for sure. I think one unintentional benefit is the larger handle, which could be better ergonomically. Some picks have really thin handles and it's not fun to hold those when you're struggling to pick a lock in a long session, or just for better grip when raking.
LPL ABUSING those locks "for fun" 😂
Love it...Thank you!
I definitely see where the inspiration comes from. Looks good.
Just ordered it, this thing is awsome.
Fills my heart with joy knowing something so simply as a rake can open so many well known lock types with zero skill required by the user.
Its alot by feel with the wrench it looks easy but so is watching a 20 year skilled person do a job
Its funny how that masterlock just gave in to the tension quickly like it gave up on life
He just picked 6 locks faster than I've seen a lot of people open their house door with the key.
Your skill is legendary
Omg, that is one awesome product, now it's out, I think to myself, where has this been before now? What a great idea
This is the first truly evil lockpick. For days I have not been able to stop playing with it.
Oh lord that is glorious!
New product, new line of products, demonstration, six locks wave racke'd, and all in less than tree minutes. Savage.
Thanks, TH-cam. I've been subscribed to this channel for a while and only now in years have I seen a video.
People might think it looks easy when he does it, but it’s nowhere near as easy as it seems. There’s so much finger dexterity involved. The perfect timing between pressure and tension-both with the spanner and with the rakes/snakes-is crucial.
That *does* look like fun! And also convenient for traveling light, though I guess that depends on one thing: do the various tips all store inside, like the turning tool does? Or do you have to carry a little baggy with you to switch from raking to single-pin picking?
Looks super fun to play with!
I don't even know a thing about picking locks but I surely want one of these immediately.
We knew there would be a Master lock in the lineup.
Quick simple and professional - Locksmith Hub Approved!😎
Ordered. Cant wait to play with it.
Just got mine this week. It is now a fidget tool, lol. Fun and useful!
That's crazy, the day this video came out I recieved a gravity knife I bought in the mail. Can confirm, very fun to play with.
Literally, the best dramatic entry a wave take could enter the scene!
Got mine in the mail, so much fun to interact with!