We have the 2023 Corolla LE Hybrid. Our last four 600Km trips with 2 people in the car and luggage (quite full), we averaged 4.1L/100Km (57MPG) on very hilly roadways at average of 110Kph. I am very impressed with the car. Better fuel economy than rated.
That is pretty decent but there is a 10% penalty for enjoying an extra 10 kmh. Isn't it odd that Toyota Canada will ship us the Corolla LE Hybrid all the way from Japan but they won't bring us the Camry LE from Kentucky?
Kirk, You are rapidly becoming the Ace of Base Model Reviews. 🤪There are two main lessons in this video: a) 76 mph is not a fuel efficient speed for highway driving b) The Corolla would be better off with the Camry's 2.5 Hybrid powertrain. Let's hope there is a Corolla Touring Sports with the 2.5 Hybrid drivetrain just around the corner. 🤞🤞🤩🤩
I had a 2022 Hybrid LE for 35k miles. My commute was 130 miles a day, 90% highway 10% city. I averaged 62.5 MPG, almost 650 miles to a full tank. Great Little Car!
If it weren't for that screen in the middle, you could absolutely convince me that the instrument cluster was from a 90's corolla, and I love it for that
Man I’m jealous of your Florida city streets. Here in Tucson, Arizona we have traffic lights every 1/4 mile that are red at least half the time. Crushes my mpg on the Prius despite my best efforts
@@Bonanzaking prius is too expensive. The regular Corolla hatchback starts at under 24k. If they could make the hybrid LE version for under 25k, that would be amazing.
I rented a 2024 Corolla LE Hybrid for a 600-mile trip from North Georgia to southern Alabama and back over Memorial Day Weekend. I cruised at 80mph on the interestate (about half the trip) and 60-65mph on two-lane highways for the other half. I had the A/C on full blast and didn't attempt to drive conservatively. My average for the entire trip was 50.2mpg.
We drove Interstate 5 from Orange County, CA to Sacramento at 55 to 65 following slow moving semi trucks and got 62 for the trip but it sure did take a long time.
...lol yeah, if i've learned anything from my PHEV, it's that electric torque is addicting. driving efficiently requires a discipline i can rarely muster.... except on road trips, where i can just pin the adaptive cruise control at 120km/h.
@@Iamallwaysright1 you realize that you are getting much better gas mileage in a midsize than in a compact? That is truly mind blowing and a first, let alone the practical benefits. I bet the gas savings alone will make up for the taxes and insurance differences (if any).
Excellent review as usual Kirk. I really enjoy your "thinking out loud" reviews which provide so many useful tips and information for us. Your real world life experience with hybrid vehicles makes your hybrid reviews second to none. Regarding the hybrid battery, I fully expect the Li-Ion equipped hybrids to have a life expectancy easily of around 20 years or more. The old NiMH batteries in the hybrids are lasting 14-15 years before needing replacement as it is. Based simply on the difference Li-Ion batteries made to our power tools vs. the original NiMH batteries they started out with that only lasted like 2 to 4 years, I'm thinking much more life can be expected with a Li-Ion equipped hybrid. The Li-Ion hybrid battery in my 2018 Camry hybrid LE is the last thing I worry about.
I have the non hybrid, I easily get 51-53mpg with just myself in the car over longer highway trips (110 miles round trip). Averaging 41 mpg mixed driving. It gets the 2.0 liter engine over the hybrid and has more horsepower. It’s faster than the hybrid, but doesn’t have as much response over the hybrid, although it is still enough since this transmission has a launch gear. I couldn’t personally justify the extra hybrid cost since I drive very little, but if you drive a lot, it could be worth it
@@KirkKreifels The non-hybrid will be better for people who drive low yearly mileage and plan to keep the vehicle for a very long time past the expiration of the hybrid battery warranty. The hybrid battery will likely go bad by 15 years of age or so regardless of how little mileage is on it, and if you didn’t pack on a lot of miles over the years, you wouldn’t have saved enough in gas and maintenance to recoup the costs of replacing the battery. If you drove the non hybrid 15 years with very low mileage, the powertrain will likely not have any issues for many more years.
really useful review especially on price/value evaluation...I get 51mpg on se awd 18" wheels hilly 50/50 at 40/62 mph... less 20% winter/ rainy season...snow tires...16" , The 18"wheels and 38 psi make a harsh ride , and pot hole excitement....... sometime I may go down to 16" rims..
Thats really good considering the outside temperature and you have the AC on. If it had the 2.0l it would be in the 60s mpg. 1.8l has been used since 2003. .
👍 70 yr old retired got 21 prius le msrp 27.5 pd 22.5 1/21 4 mo later 2k over msrp. Crazy. 1st 5k @52 mpg 20k@59.5 avg best car i ever bought includes 2 trips to vegas from mty bay 500 mi away on cruz control 75-85 mph on long stretches, not a slow car. Saw an article 2023 prius le from la to ny 3,200 mi avg 93+mpg
I have a 2023 LE AWD, rated to 48 mpg. I average 46 mpg, which includes a cross country trip to my folks place in Maine from the mountain west (75-83 mph average) and regular trips into the mountains all winter. On my commute to work averages into the mid-50s isn’t hard to achieve
The all new 9th Gen Toyota Camry has proven to be the best family sedan in America because of everything about this wonderful automobile is so good, its final scores after tallying earned its crown as the best family I don’t understand why would anyone buy a Corolla over the all new Toyota Camry, the King of family sedan.
@KirkKriefels can you get some seat time in a Civic hybrid for an upcoming review? I'm really interested in seeing how you feel it compares to both the Corolla hybrid & Camry.
You comment the reported or rated highway MPG but not the speed of the testing. I drive 65 mph because that’s the speed limit, on cruise control. The best aspect is that everyone else is out fighting with all others to be “faster,” reducing efficiency. Driving slower that the peloton means steady driving, no changes in speed, and max possible mpg: 2018 Hyundai Ioniq PHEV: average 62 MPG. The other half drives “like everyone else” and the mpg drops to around 50 mph. Analysis: my style means over 100 miles more using the 10 gallon comparison to hers. That's huge. Thabks
This is great info. I am a Toyota hybrid person. Not sure why Toyota does not allow you to have a tach on their more powerful “regular” hybrid models. I think the I-force/Hybrid Max models offer it since they use a transmission 8 or 6 speed auto.
I noticed Toyota always rates Fuel economy less than what the car does in real time driving because I have a Toyota Venza XLE and it’s rated 37 highway and 40 miles city and I’m getting 43 miles per gallon combined!!! Mostly highway driving!!!
Up to my observation of your drive, the blue indicator appears to correlate with the power of the electric motors. When you start from complete stop, it goes full right, then ICE may add up. Upon regen breaking it goes left. For some short moments upon moderate deceleration, typically after ICE shut off, it goes both ways, which may mean that MG2 is still pushing the car while MG1 is generating (this makes sense if you recall that MG1 is also responsible for maintaining effective gear ratio)
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My 2023 Toyota Corolla Hybrid LE averages 38-42 MPG in the city and 35-40 on the highway with the air conditioner and regular drive activated. Not bad, but nowhere near 50 MPG. I still love my car.
I know Kirk teared this apart on his previous video, but this is the car most ppl need right now, you don't need premium if you gonna have to do 72 or 84 month finance. This is a great car at a reasonable price, just dont pay for add ons.
@@KirkKreifels I have the non hybrid version, got it for 23k, fantastic car. Even the non hybrid gets very good mileage. Spending $20 every 2 weeks is fantastic
Can you do a video of corolla hybrid vs prius since they are more similar size? I am looking for a new ride that can keep for 10+ years. I would like to hear your opinions on them, like drive and build quality, perhaps value for money around 30k.
i use cruise control as much as possible (even in urban areas) to get overall 21MPG out of my 2015 Q5, wondering if cruise control will promote even better MPGs on hybrids
My 2021 Corolla Hybrid has averaged 55.5 mpg in the Boston area since delivery in December 2020. I make frequent road trips to Maryland via hilly I-78 in PA. The mpg readout is typically 3 - 5 mpg optimistic which I suspect is not an accident. C'mon Toyota. BTW: two clicking the gas pump is a bad idea as it could overflow liquid gas into your vapor recovery filter resulting in a $$$ repair. Critique: With all the repetitive hypermiling suggestion removed this video could have been half as long and just as informative.
I get 48 mpg plus in my 2012 Yaris on the highway and in town driving. 4 speed auto, best car I have ever had. Small but comfortable cannot ask for more.🍁🍁🍁🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Honestly, I’d rather see what the absolute worst fuel economy would be, that way when you’re not able to drive like you’re going to your own funeral you’ll know what realistically you’d get. Most people aren’t gonna crawl around like this. Punch that pedal from every light.
We have the 2023 Corolla LE Hybrid. Our last four 600Km trips with 2 people in the car and luggage (quite full), we averaged 4.1L/100Km (57MPG) on very hilly roadways at average of 110Kph. I am very impressed with the car. Better fuel economy than rated.
That is pretty decent but there is a 10% penalty for enjoying an extra 10 kmh. Isn't it odd that Toyota Canada will ship us the Corolla LE Hybrid all the way from Japan but they won't bring us the Camry LE from Kentucky?
We get the same mpg in ours +/- 1 mpgs.
Kirk, You are rapidly becoming the Ace of Base Model Reviews. 🤪There are two main lessons in this video: a) 76 mph is not a fuel efficient speed for highway driving b) The Corolla would be better off with the Camry's 2.5 Hybrid powertrain. Let's hope there is a Corolla Touring Sports with the 2.5 Hybrid drivetrain just around the corner. 🤞🤞🤩🤩
there used to be an xrs available with the 2.4, too bad they stopped making it. Just like the rav4 v6
@@famicomnintendo True.
I had a 2022 Hybrid LE for 35k miles. My commute was 130 miles a day, 90% highway 10% city. I averaged 62.5 MPG, almost 650 miles to a full tank. Great Little Car!
If it weren't for that screen in the middle, you could absolutely convince me that the instrument cluster was from a 90's corolla, and I love it for that
Kirk,
Our son bought the Camry 2025 LE. The 2.5 naturally aspirated engine more cabin space and 51 mpg on the freeway is a better value.
Agreed!
Yeah, just wish it was built in Japan like the corolla hybrid.
Depends on your financial position. If 30k is a bridge to far then staying below 27-25 could be the limit for some. Like me!
Man I’m jealous of your Florida city streets. Here in Tucson, Arizona we have traffic lights every 1/4 mile that are red at least half the time. Crushes my mpg on the Prius despite my best efforts
I wish they made the hybrid hatchback. That thing would be a great alternative to CUVs and smaller SUVs. I would get it over the RAV4
Toyota has been making a Corolla Hybrid hatch and wagon for years, they just won't sell them in our market.
Why not just get the Corolla Cross?
There is the new Prius
@@Bonanzaking prius is too expensive. The regular Corolla hatchback starts at under 24k. If they could make the hybrid LE version for under 25k, that would be amazing.
@@Bek-A vehicle sales or rather manufacturing operates off volume. I doubt they’ll make that variant of the corolla as a hybrid.
I have a 2021 Toyota Corolla Hybrid LE and I am getting average 64 MPG city and 57 highway. Love this car.
I rented a 2024 Corolla LE Hybrid for a 600-mile trip from North Georgia to southern Alabama and back over Memorial Day Weekend. I cruised at 80mph on the interestate (about half the trip) and 60-65mph on two-lane highways for the other half. I had the A/C on full blast and didn't attempt to drive conservatively. My average for the entire trip was 50.2mpg.
Blue line is for suggested acceleration for best mileage
I get 42-43 mpg highway mileage driving a non-hybrid '24 Corolla LE. Which honestly ain't that bad.
I think people forget it wasn't all that long ago people bragged about getting 20 mpg on the highway
It’s awesome. You could probably increase that mpg if you drove like a granny.
I used to get 38 or 39 in my 2005 Corolla CE , but you had to keep it under 65 mph.
Bro that's a Corolla, you comparing apples to grapes. Corolla Camry, differ size cars.
i get 34-35 mpg on a bmw 4 series which is also not too bad considering how it has way more horsepower.
We drove Interstate 5 from Orange County, CA to Sacramento at 55 to 65 following slow moving semi trucks and got 62 for the trip but it sure did take a long time.
Denver to Everett, Wa. 62.6. 55-60mph
...lol yeah, if i've learned anything from my PHEV, it's that electric torque is addicting. driving efficiently requires a discipline i can rarely muster.... except on road trips, where i can just pin the adaptive cruise control at 120km/h.
This was very interesting
Where I live 🇦🇺 the best price I can find is about 36 aud = 23994 USD
This is great. But the fact that the midsize Camry LE easily beat that makes it a much better buy for an extra $5k.
Also the civic hybrid which costs as much if not more sometimes. Insane pricing
Shhhh
Corolla is made in Japan
You act as if $5k is a small amount. Taxes on the Camry will be higher, as will insurance. It's a huge difference between the 2 cars!
@@Iamallwaysright1 you realize that you are getting much better gas mileage in a midsize than in a compact? That is truly mind blowing and a first, let alone the practical benefits. I bet the gas savings alone will make up for the taxes and insurance differences (if any).
Awesome review.
If you drive on the highway for any significant amount of time stretching your budget for a base camry would be way more comfortable
Yes, I will watch this video, but I’d get the Camry LE over any trim of the Corolla any day.
Excellent review as usual Kirk. I really enjoy your "thinking out loud" reviews which provide so many useful tips and information for us. Your real world life experience with hybrid vehicles makes your hybrid reviews second to none. Regarding the hybrid battery, I fully expect the Li-Ion equipped hybrids to have a life expectancy easily of around 20 years or more. The old NiMH batteries in the hybrids are lasting 14-15 years before needing replacement as it is. Based simply on the difference Li-Ion batteries made to our power tools vs. the original NiMH batteries they started out with that only lasted like 2 to 4 years, I'm thinking much more life can be expected with a Li-Ion equipped hybrid. The Li-Ion hybrid battery in my 2018 Camry hybrid LE is the last thing I worry about.
Amazing MPG review. Can you possibly compare the Corolla Hybrid LE to the non-hybrid Corolla LE base?
Just get the Hybrid over the base. Better MPG, response, reliability, etc
I have the non hybrid, I easily get 51-53mpg with just myself in the car over longer highway trips (110 miles round trip). Averaging 41 mpg mixed driving. It gets the 2.0 liter engine over the hybrid and has more horsepower. It’s faster than the hybrid, but doesn’t have as much response over the hybrid, although it is still enough since this transmission has a launch gear. I couldn’t personally justify the extra hybrid cost since I drive very little, but if you drive a lot, it could be worth it
@@KirkKreifels The non-hybrid will be better for people who drive low yearly mileage and plan to keep the vehicle for a very long time past the expiration of the hybrid battery warranty.
The hybrid battery will likely go bad by 15 years of age or so regardless of how little mileage is on it, and if you didn’t pack on a lot of miles over the years, you wouldn’t have saved enough in gas and maintenance to recoup the costs of replacing the battery.
If you drove the non hybrid 15 years with very low mileage, the powertrain will likely not have any issues for many more years.
really useful review especially on price/value evaluation...I get 51mpg on se awd 18" wheels hilly 50/50 at 40/62 mph... less 20% winter/ rainy season...snow tires...16" , The 18"wheels and 38 psi make a harsh ride , and pot hole excitement....... sometime I may go down to 16" rims..
I won't run anything but 16"...........Low pros are expensive race car tires........The Industry needs to change......Paul
Agreed! 18" rims make no sense at all on a small car focused on efficiency.
Thats really good considering the outside temperature and you have the AC on.
If it had the 2.0l it would be in the 60s mpg.
1.8l has been used since 2003.
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👍 70 yr old retired got 21 prius le msrp 27.5 pd 22.5 1/21 4 mo later 2k over msrp. Crazy. 1st 5k @52 mpg 20k@59.5 avg best car i ever bought includes 2 trips to vegas from mty bay 500 mi away on cruz control 75-85 mph on long stretches, not a slow car. Saw an article 2023 prius le from la to ny 3,200 mi avg 93+mpg
I actually got 89mpg on mine
WOW! thats great that a manufacturer can make a vehicle that does better than promised
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Kirk i like your gas-saving tips.
Great information Kirk! 👍
Thanks for your video. I would get the Camry LE more room longer range better mpg.
I have a 2023 LE AWD, rated to 48 mpg. I average 46 mpg, which includes a cross country trip to my folks place in Maine from the mountain west (75-83 mph average) and regular trips into the mountains all winter. On my commute to work averages into the mid-50s isn’t hard to achieve
The all new 9th Gen Toyota Camry has proven to be the best family sedan in America because of everything about this wonderful automobile is so good, its final scores after tallying earned its crown as the best family I don’t understand why would anyone buy a Corolla over the all new Toyota Camry, the King of family sedan.
Well, some people can't afford the Camry, haha
Price bro. Not that hard to comprehend.
Are you their spokesperson?
thank you! very informative and relevant
Roadmaster is BEYOND COOL.
@KirkKriefels can you get some seat time in a Civic hybrid for an upcoming review? I'm really interested in seeing how you feel it compares to both the Corolla hybrid & Camry.
Great video.
Sounds like the next gen Corolla will similar in tech to a 2016 BMW i3 REX. Ah the i3 really was way ahead of its time.
You comment the reported or rated highway MPG but not the speed of the testing. I drive 65 mph because that’s the speed limit, on cruise control. The best aspect is that everyone else is out fighting with all others to be “faster,” reducing efficiency. Driving slower that the peloton means steady driving, no changes in speed, and max possible mpg: 2018 Hyundai Ioniq PHEV: average 62 MPG. The other half drives “like everyone else” and the mpg drops to around 50 mph. Analysis: my style means over 100 miles more using the 10 gallon comparison to hers. That's huge. Thabks
I had planned on a Camry as up upgrade to my 2012 Prius but it's bigger than I need and the Corolla fills that need
17:30 Our 2020 Corolla SE gets 32 combined and is not as quick as our 2024 LE Hybrid which gets 58
This is great info. I am a Toyota hybrid person. Not sure why Toyota does not allow you to have a tach on their more powerful “regular” hybrid models. I think the I-force/Hybrid Max models offer it since they use a transmission 8 or 6 speed auto.
guess Elantra hybrid is still MPG king. Top trim elantra hybrid was 64MPG in Kirk test. Wonder what the cheaper Blue trim MPG will be like.
Kirk, I am not a bot account! Great info! Watching the whole video for the real mpg!
58 mpg is good, but like you said, not as good as the Camry LE. Mind boggling.
I noticed Toyota always rates Fuel economy less than what the car does in real time driving because I have a Toyota Venza XLE and it’s rated 37 highway and 40 miles city and I’m getting 43 miles per gallon combined!!! Mostly highway driving!!!
Up to my observation of your drive, the blue indicator appears to correlate with the power of the electric motors.
When you start from complete stop, it goes full right, then ICE may add up.
Upon regen breaking it goes left.
For some short moments upon moderate deceleration, typically after ICE shut off, it goes both ways, which may mean that MG2 is still pushing the car while MG1 is generating (this makes sense if you recall that MG1 is also responsible for maintaining effective gear ratio)
I would buy the LBX if it came out in the US 😭
The blue is the ideal. I imagine if you want to hit the MPG estimate you would match the green and the blue.
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bots are dumb
can u do one of the honda civic hybrid
My 2023 Toyota Corolla Hybrid LE averages 38-42 MPG in the city and 35-40 on the highway with the air conditioner and regular drive activated. Not bad, but nowhere near 50 MPG. I still love my car.
I know Kirk teared this apart on his previous video, but this is the car most ppl need right now, you don't need premium if you gonna have to do 72 or 84 month finance. This is a great car at a reasonable price, just dont pay for add ons.
Great car under $25k!
@@KirkKreifels I have the non hybrid version, got it for 23k, fantastic car. Even the non hybrid gets very good mileage. Spending $20 every 2 weeks is fantastic
Oh Toyota, please bring the Corolla Touring Hybrid to North America.
Oh well, gotta sell the SUVs somehow.
I would actually prefer a smaller Toyota Yaris hybrid hatchback, but sadly Toyota doesn't sell those here in the USA "yet".
The Yaris hatch is overdue for a comeback. Even the Yaris Cross would beat the Corolla's mpg by 20%.
24 Corolla Cross SE AWD hybrid. Same instruments. Always hyper mile, 75+mpg, except 70+mph, ev never turns on, drops to upper 30's.
perfect Uber car, cheaper than the new Prius
if you can get away with driving slow
@@ouch9326its not any slower than the other ride sharing sh*t boxes, modern cars are not slow like they used to be
Going that slow my prius 2023 xle gets 70-75, so there's no surprise
I hope the next gen Corolla hybrid gives us at least 180 hp. I’d also like to see a hatchback hybrid version in the US.
So you basicly just want the 2.0 version which is available in europe with 196 hp. Oddly it is only for the hatchback and estate version though.
Thanks for this! I am comparing to my Maverick Hybrid
Hahahah this car can mop the floor with Tesla
😂😂😂
if the car is new, it need to break in. It will get more than 50 MPG with ease. I know I own one
Can you do a video of corolla hybrid vs prius since they are more similar size? I am looking for a new ride that can keep for 10+ years. I would like to hear your opinions on them, like drive and build quality, perhaps value for money around 30k.
Prius LE if you can find one is the pick. Otherwise the Prius gets pricey fast.
i use cruise control as much as possible (even in urban areas) to get overall 21MPG out of my 2015 Q5, wondering if cruise control will promote even better MPGs on hybrids
You need a hybrid sir. I bet you'd be able to get some really impressive results.
Would the 2.0 litre engine perform better on highway driving
I think it will get 56 mpg. My SE with the 2.0 gets about 44 so it will get a decent amount better than that.
Edit: got pretty close nice
I thought since it’s a hybrid the tachometer would be replaced with a battery level meter
What is the engine spec?
1.8L four cylinder like a 2010-2022 prius
You shouldn't add anymore fuel once the pump clicks off because it'll eventually damage the EVAP system and those aren't cheap to fix.
Tank won't be full more than a few minutes.....So don't worry bout that........Paul
@@paulholterhaus7084 Still doesn't matter. You're still damaging the EVAP vent purge solenoid.
What’s the tire size on this model?
Nice
i want to see comparison of driving range to camry
650mi range for the Corolla hybrid LE
800mi range for Camry LE
just use epa miles per gallon comparison
My 2021 Corolla Hybrid has averaged 55.5 mpg in the Boston area since delivery in December 2020. I make frequent road trips to Maryland via hilly I-78 in PA. The mpg readout is typically 3 - 5 mpg optimistic which I suspect is not an accident. C'mon Toyota. BTW: two clicking the gas pump is a bad idea as it could overflow liquid gas into your vapor recovery filter resulting in a $$$ repair. Critique: With all the repetitive hypermiling suggestion removed this video could have been half as long and just as informative.
What about lumbar support?
None on the base trim.
I get 48 mpg plus in my 2012 Yaris on the highway and in town driving. 4 speed auto, best car I have ever had. Small but comfortable cannot ask for more.🍁🍁🍁🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
My dad has that car
So why the frown?
Japan built > USA built
Honestly, I’d rather see what the absolute worst fuel economy would be, that way when you’re not able to drive like you’re going to your own funeral you’ll know what realistically you’d get. Most people aren’t gonna crawl around like this. Punch that pedal from every light.
realistically 58mpg isn't hard. Drivers punching at the light every time are likely to buy an Altima.
63
..and clean out the trunk. Junk is bad for mpg
HEY
And I thought my 1972 Ford Pinto's 26 mpg was great mileage😂😂!
You talked too much!
hybrid not good unless your drive it carefully
83k miles, full throttle everywhere. Never got less than 50mpg. What you say again? LOL
It’s junk over priced
Do a review on the Civic Hybrid.
Why do you drive most of the time in the passing lane.🇺🇸🇨🇦
#freedom 🤣