after u pick up the wallet u can also sprint for a second near the door with the security, which will make him check the room, giving u time to circle around thru the bathroom door to the right instantly going upstairs and dropping to the drop point
sadly a lot of other players are having the same issue, it should be fixed soon it's just annoying considering the game just came out tho@@andrewwillis9759
This is a really good strat for grinding the challenges and getting some money at the same time, it is however less reliable than dirty ice and you might fail an attempt just by having bad cop rng. Also, it helps to have the radio hack, just in case guards do catch you, and you can use ECM's toward the end to rush to the escape zone.
i can do this for 6 minutes on overkill which is quite difficult even doing this strategy to get 1500xp or I can just do dirty ice on normal/hard, take 2-3 minutes and get 940xp. which is going to be much more reliable and more replayable.
Biggest difference would be the progress towards challenges. Doing this will get you RTC before assault starts for OVK and all the difficulties below it, effectively granting you a metric ton of infamy points.
Open the door first then sprint into the fire extinguisher. Works every time 👍 you've got to be touching the wall. Also sprinting in private areas doesn't attract guards.
FYI lighter vests to move past the civ faster in the first room and gotta start running from that room and duck behind the bar to trigger gaurds without getting caught
Whenever I go inside the room before alerting the bouncer, the employee there spots me and calls security, any tips on how to prevent that? I can't seem to sprint or crouch past the employee fast enough to not trigger this.
I tried this trick multiple times but to no success. Once I got through the first door and runnin' towards next, there's usually a security guard or two that either comes through the door or follow me down the room. As mentioned, if I manage to make it through this place, the bouncers won't budge after tryin' to run pass 'em like 10-20 times before they even notice somethin'. By then, a lead captain or other security guard comes by and either interrupts or catches me. Have they patched the game or somethin' to make this run not possible anymore??
This whole heist is literally CHANCE 10:9 so many fucking guards waiting to arrest you outside those doors it's rediculous, imagine how many times this guy has to replay this mission to get it PERFECT that's why he doesn't have many skills in stealth because it's just too hard don't waste your time
In order to get proper xp/hour the server must run. Today i tried to play for 3 hours - in those 3 hours i managed to do 6 dirty ice runs, the remainding time was spend in searching for a game and an almost endless "couldn't connect to servers" warning
You can always try full sending the front 2 guards yoink the keycard swipe hack the phone an continue on downside is they will be in search mode but thatll also move the cripto door guard an with right perks the civilians wont bother you but will need to look out for the roaming guards but a few well placed motion sensors do the trick or even stick them to the guards if your ballsy haha
You have to activate a skill so that when the rush is active, any civilian who sees you doing something suspicious will not alert you. To activate the rush he uses an ability that when he opens a door the rush activates or renews itself. That's why when he passes by the civilian, he doesn't alert.
1:07 I don't know about anyone else, but whenever I try to sneak past the person in this room that's staring at the door, regardless of how I try to move past them (walking, sprinting, sneaking) I am always detected, and the police are always called, ruining this strategy. Any work arounds?
Exactly it's literally just luck getting past them, I say play road rage with the stealth skills you want to unlock like grifter and the lock picking one, hacking, otherwise it's all just chance but they want to bait you I to thinking "it's this easy guys do what i do it works every time" bruh after I ran out that room there was 2 fucking guards waiting literally right outside the door hidden
I've been screwed over about 4 times now on trying to jump on the middle part of the VIP room because the devs cant even make a vaulting system work. truly a 10/10 game.
@greirat22 doesn't change the fact that it's a shitty vaulting system, I shouldn't have to hug a ledge and look at a specific angle to vault something clearly in front of me.
I'm assuming you're using OBS for the initial recording. Even if you aren't... Check your audio recording. Because you are recording two instances of the game audio and they are roughly 20ms apart. That's what's causing the audio distortion.
Can someone tell me how I can make those bouncers go to me? I run pass them behind the bar and crouch in the same spot and they don’t come follow me. I have the same skill, same everything else. I’m confused on what I’m supposed to do
So my first gripe is the person in the room with the computer, I truly dont know how you walk past with barely getting seen by them. I have to time it perfectly to get passed and around the corner and not get caught by a sliver. Second, when I do manage to get the guards to check out the bar, either the lead guard or a regular guard behind him see me walking towards the vip door before I get the card. I reset the lobby twice to make sure I didnt get bad spawns or something, no avail. I truly dont know how you do this consistently to make it worth it.
@@PKNEXUS Im gonna try again here soon, gonna throw on that perk that makes you move faster when close to a civ, and ima put on the lightest armor. I feel like thatll help overall with it. The guard part idk, just unlucky I guess lol
XP is more for guns and skills, but in theory this also will slowly get you IP by beating all of the Rock the Cradle challenges too since they are normal/hard/very hard or higher until you get to the overkill challenge.
Thank you, it took way too many tries and a bit of frustration but i got it and got an achievement for it along with a few challenges, wish i coulda gotten all the loot though since this heist has so much, but theres like five paintings upstairs so id need to do the annoying (and buggy) vip pass stuff to gain access to the nightclub and thats basically what this guide is supposed to cut out, maybe i could get all loot downstairs but idk, again thanks it was nice to get those challenges out of the way and get some xp
The whiteboard isn't there for some reason, what am I doing wrong Edit: it looks like they changed the map or something? Am I crazy? I followed this tutorial to the letter and in the second vent I drop down directly into the vault, not that room with the guard, which I actually see over the bathroom vent
Looks nice, speed isnt my best skill set, I learned dirty ice from your great vid but honestly im a 5 min guy, I upped ice to hard and cleaned the gems for 200k but it takes (me) 10 mins, Love the game love your vids
@@giveluminacat10nobles21 The way it works is that you start sprinting in the secure area, which alerts the guards but they move towards the spot where you were last heard.
@@giveluminacat10nobles21also would like to clarify, in terms of rock the cradle, its actually somewhat difficulty locked, that back area around the vip door guards is actually only a secure area on i think very hard or ovk. Otherwise its only private
@@sanicpl1499 I should stop making sweeping statements when I haven't played every difficulty lol, don't think I ever did it below Very Hard and just assumed it only changed zones on OVK
Wait, so you are able to play it enough to farm xp? I've only played about 3 matches since it's release! S/n I know he's probably talking about beta or has been paid but ijs the servers are trash. Never seen a launch this bad.
Dirty ice gives you 900-ish xp in 3-ish minutes on avarage. Done perfectly not counting downtime or matchmaking you could do 20 Diry ice missions in 1 hour for about 18 000 exp. Rock and Cradle on overkill done by you took about 5 minutes for 1 500 exp. Done perfectly not counting downtime or matchmaking you could do 12 missions in 1 hour for about 18 000 exp. Not to mention Dirty Ice is a much easier hiest where less can go wrong.
You dont count the money. If you tell me I can do a heist which takes a bit longer, but gives more xp, gives more money and is also more engaging, sign me up.
@@addrll1964 well yea. I went from a pure ease of use and effectiveness point of view on how to get exp. I never talked about the monetary gain from each hiest nor was that my goal. When you look up exp farm you're likely not looking to fill your pockets as much as you want to unlock stuff.
Try running through the doorway. I think something about being in a secure area when you sprint causes the search, and the doorframe I came from is right about on the edge of their hearing radius. Also, make sure you're on a higher difficulty as they won't do this on lower difficulties.
ok just tried this again.. (after a few matchmaking errors of course) it worked, u have to run thru the doorway (be precise about this or the guards will not get into "search mode") and it will triggered the search.. Thanks Ape!
I don't get it, leveling system is gay cause cuz xp is only gotten by completing challenges. So if you already did the challenge you can't get it again, so how is this a farm if your getting the same challenges done
What I dont understand is how the employee continues to detect me when I replicate your run. I think some skills are actually necessary to achieve this mission
I farmed XP in the matchmaking queue for hours. Good times
That matchmaking error bonus is key.
after u pick up the wallet u can also sprint for a second near the door with the security, which will make him check the room, giving u time to circle around thru the bathroom door to the right instantly going upstairs and dropping to the drop point
it would be nice if the servers genuinely let me in the game.
They are still not letting you in? iv been playing for hours with no problem.
same problem here
sadly a lot of other players are having the same issue, it should be fixed soon it's just annoying considering the game just came out tho@@andrewwillis9759
@@andrewwillis9759 the servers have been on and off since release. ive been able to play but after a while ill just get constant matchmaking errors
They worked yesterday morning, died yesterday afternoon, they came back last night. It’s aggravating. Hopefully starbreeze figured it out
This is a really good strat for grinding the challenges and getting some money at the same time, it is however less reliable than dirty ice and you might fail an attempt just by having bad cop rng. Also, it helps to have the radio hack, just in case guards do catch you, and you can use ECM's toward the end to rush to the escape zone.
Finally a use for the ecm.
@PewPewSol unless u mean in this game, everyone used ecm for this exact purpose in payday 2
Just a tip: if you use the ECM jammer, it gives you much more time to get out at the end.
Do you just put it anywhere?
YES@@natew100
@@natew100no you have to put it somewhere thats anywhere which is somewhere
nice full on lie! i really like how well you lied here, good job it was an impressive lie
That lady catches me every time
i can do this for 6 minutes on overkill which is quite difficult even doing this strategy to get 1500xp
or I can just do dirty ice on normal/hard, take 2-3 minutes and get 940xp. which is going to be much more reliable and more replayable.
Biggest difference would be the progress towards challenges. Doing this will get you RTC before assault starts for OVK and all the difficulties below it, effectively granting you a metric ton of infamy points.
Ive completed this heist on overkill faster than dirty ice lol its def better
@@Anthony-xm1pk you complete dirty ice sub 2:30. no you haven't lmao
Completed dirty ice co op in 1:25 lul so no way your faster in this heist
With how the servers are you are gonna get 2,3 runs and it fails to matchmake so time doesnt matter lol
idk why but i cant do this move in 1:15 :/ when I run through the door and crouch behind the barman nothing happens :(
The guards don't look at me when i sprint out the door and behind the bar man at the start..?
Sprinting past the guards at the VIP door doesnt trigger them to search for me
Me neither
SAME
Open the door first then sprint into the fire extinguisher. Works every time 👍 you've got to be touching the wall. Also sprinting in private areas doesn't attract guards.
I cant get the bouncers to walk behind the bar. For whatever reason they dont see me when i sprint behind the bar.
I just can’t get those first two bouncers to move
FYI lighter vests to move past the civ faster in the first room and gotta start running from that room and duck behind the bar to trigger gaurds without getting caught
Whenever I go inside the room before alerting the bouncer, the employee there spots me and calls security, any tips on how to prevent that? I can't seem to sprint or crouch past the employee fast enough to not trigger this.
I tried this trick multiple times but to no success. Once I got through the first door and runnin' towards next, there's usually a security guard or two that either comes through the door or follow me down the room. As mentioned, if I manage to make it through this place, the bouncers won't budge after tryin' to run pass 'em like 10-20 times before they even notice somethin'. By then, a lead captain or other security guard comes by and either interrupts or catches me. Have they patched the game or somethin' to make this run not possible anymore??
same with you, I think they already patch it.
you are genius for figuring out how to get the blue keycard that fast hoooly.
This whole heist is literally CHANCE
10:9 so many fucking guards waiting to arrest you outside those doors it's rediculous, imagine how many times this guy has to replay this mission to get it PERFECT that's why he doesn't have many skills in stealth because it's just too hard don't waste your time
In order to get proper xp/hour the server must run. Today i tried to play for 3 hours - in those 3 hours i managed to do 6 dirty ice runs, the remainding time was spend in searching for a game and an almost endless "couldn't connect to servers" warning
Must’ve patched the part where the bouncers will walk behind the bar cus they don’t seem to care when I run out of the room
No matter how much I run past the door the guards don't hear and walk to the bar
Are you playing it on Overkill
yeah but they dont notice 80% of the time
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@@Krypolo You need to start sprinting in the secure zone before the bar to trigger them. They dont care if they hear you in private areas.
You can always try full sending the front 2 guards yoink the keycard swipe hack the phone an continue on downside is they will be in search mode but thatll also move the cripto door guard an with right perks the civilians wont bother you but will need to look out for the roaming guards but a few well placed motion sensors do the trick or even stick them to the guards if your ballsy haha
Gotta start your run from in the break room
How do you get past the civ staring at the door so easily?
This is my problem as well, that civ spots me every time.
You have to activate a skill so that when the rush is active, any civilian who sees you doing something suspicious will not alert you. To activate the rush he uses an ability that when he opens a door the rush activates or renews itself. That's why when he passes by the civilian, he doesn't alert.
1:07 I don't know about anyone else, but whenever I try to sneak past the person in this room that's staring at the door, regardless of how I try to move past them (walking, sprinting, sneaking) I am always detected, and the police are always called, ruining this strategy. Any work arounds?
Exactly it's literally just luck getting past them, I say play road rage with the stealth skills you want to unlock like grifter and the lock picking one, hacking, otherwise it's all just chance but they want to bait you I to thinking "it's this easy guys do what i do it works every time" bruh after I ran out that room there was 2 fucking guards waiting literally right outside the door hidden
Did they update 1:20 ? I keep having a police with a cap in the middle of the club
I've been screwed over about 4 times now on trying to jump on the middle part of the VIP room because the devs cant even make a vaulting system work. truly a 10/10 game.
@greirat22 doesn't change the fact that it's a shitty vaulting system, I shouldn't have to hug a ledge and look at a specific angle to vault something clearly in front of me.
The civ at 1:08 keeps spotting me out instantly not letting me get passed them to trigger the vip guards.
you need the skill that disables detection from civs in private/trespassed areas
what skills is that
@@gamingadvisor002-1
@@belgianbiker7022I may be wrong but it could be social engineering
has this been fixed or somthing cause i cant make the vip room guard move with sprinting
I'm assuming you're using OBS for the initial recording. Even if you aren't... Check your audio recording. Because you are recording two instances of the game audio and they are roughly 20ms apart. That's what's causing the audio distortion.
I keep getting the other it room spawn idk if they changed it but i keep getting screwed over cuz of it
Can someone tell me how I can make those bouncers go to me? I run pass them behind the bar and crouch in the same spot and they don’t come follow me. I have the same skill, same everything else. I’m confused on what I’m supposed to do
Might be the difficulty. Are you trying it on Overkill?
So my first gripe is the person in the room with the computer, I truly dont know how you walk past with barely getting seen by them. I have to time it perfectly to get passed and around the corner and not get caught by a sliver. Second, when I do manage to get the guards to check out the bar, either the lead guard or a regular guard behind him see me walking towards the vip door before I get the card. I reset the lobby twice to make sure I didnt get bad spawns or something, no avail. I truly dont know how you do this consistently to make it worth it.
I had the same issue with the person in the little side room, but two guards on the door are no issue.
@@PKNEXUS Im gonna try again here soon, gonna throw on that perk that makes you move faster when close to a civ, and ima put on the lightest armor. I feel like thatll help overall with it. The guard part idk, just unlucky I guess lol
You need the social engineering perk
the guards don’t come off the door no matter what I do, am I doing something wrong?
me neither
Out of curiosity, how much waiting time do you get in waiting/failing to join a game to actually join the game in the end?
done it in 4:12 only took a few trys lol thank you so much this was really good
How did u instantly pick the lock on the second door?
i keep getting caught by that guard...
You have to have the lock pick jiggle skill
I keep getting fails on the escape even with a jammer up... anybody know why? Says "civilian escaped and called the police"
The IT room didn’t spawn in the right place so I’m gonna have to restart every time if it’s not there which blows
Hmm even on overkill the guards never see me sprinting I’m seen by the head guard and escorted our normally
Same
you gotta do it right just like he did
it's in a very specific spot
Nice vid man
Isn't ip more important to level character or is straight xp fine also?
I thought you needed to grind out ip challenges?
XP is more for guns and skills, but in theory this also will slowly get you IP by beating all of the Rock the Cradle challenges too since they are normal/hard/very hard or higher until you get to the overkill challenge.
Thank you, it took way too many tries and a bit of frustration but i got it and got an achievement for it along with a few challenges, wish i coulda gotten all the loot though since this heist has so much, but theres like five paintings upstairs so id need to do the annoying (and buggy) vip pass stuff to gain access to the nightclub and thats basically what this guide is supposed to cut out, maybe i could get all loot downstairs but idk, again thanks it was nice to get those challenges out of the way and get some xp
Just do all the vip pass stuff and if it bugs then you can sprint behind the bar and steal the keycard like he does here
@@Phnixxx good idea, thank you
This doesn’t work? When you go into the office the person standing there calls the guards instantly
The whiteboard isn't there for some reason, what am I doing wrong
Edit: it looks like they changed the map or something? Am I crazy? I followed this tutorial to the letter and in the second vent I drop down directly into the vault, not that room with the guard, which I actually see over the bathroom vent
It's RNG Everytime. Camera room, Cash Vault, and Server Room roatate
Oh, that makes sense. That's good to know
Well I’ll be doing this next month when they patch the game servers. For now I’m gonna be in PD2
Why is the room the VIP door is in a private area for you? its public for me meaning the guards never notice me
no you have to springt out of the door :=) so they hear the footsteps behind them
You need to try it on overkill.
I’ve spent the last 30 minutes trying to get into a game but keep getting an error😑
Looks nice, speed isnt my best skill set, I learned dirty ice from your great vid but honestly im a 5 min guy, I upped ice to hard and cleaned the gems for 200k but it takes (me) 10 mins,
Love the game love your vids
Super helpful bro, will have to try when I get to play. Did not know that the vip guards move like that on higher difficulty, very cool mechanic
Not difficultly locked, it's tied to running in "secure" areas and when you stop, sometimes it extends beyond the secure zone.
@@giveluminacat10nobles21 The way it works is that you start sprinting in the secure area, which alerts the guards but they move towards the spot where you were last heard.
@@zer0her048 thank you for clarifying, my reply wasn't clear on how it works exactly.
@@giveluminacat10nobles21also would like to clarify, in terms of rock the cradle, its actually somewhat difficulty locked, that back area around the vip door guards is actually only a secure area on i think very hard or ovk. Otherwise its only private
@@sanicpl1499 I should stop making sweeping statements when I haven't played every difficulty lol, don't think I ever did it below Very Hard and just assumed it only changed zones on OVK
Finally, people are starting to catch on to the true best stealth heist… when it’s not being a pile of glitchy garbage
yea I can't even complete it right now I keep lagging off of the catwalk area and falling to the ground floor smh
how are you getting past matchmaking errors?
What suit is he wearing at the start of the game
I cant get the bouncers to follow me for my life, been trying for an hour and cant get it
I've not been able to play at all matchmaking error and nebula errors. In canada
cant do this the 2 guard at door they dont event flinch at me....
Pro why is there a matchmaking for bots to join? Like wtf were they doing?
Hey man, raptakGaming just reposted this tutorial and thought you should've got credit
It's the nature of the beast lol thanks for noticing though.
HOW ARE YOU GETTONG JNTO GAMES HOW ARE YOU LEVEL 24 I can’t even figure out wtf to do in hank
Play 99 boxes, go in and out of the escape square, do that for 3 minutes and you get over 20k XP for your weapons.
How do you consistently distract the bouncers away from the door?
sprint before the door
How are you making it past the civ in the break room?
Maybe your ballistic vest is slowing you down. Failed 20 times , I quit and then switched to the beginners vest and made it
Thanks for the tip! I'll be able to level up so fast!
As soon as I can start a fucking match.
Wait, so you are able to play it enough to farm xp? I've only played about 3 matches since it's release! S/n I know he's probably talking about beta or has been paid but ijs the servers are trash. Never seen a launch this bad.
At 5:04 you can place ECM Jammer too
Nice, good tip!
Sprinting only alerts guard if you are in a ‘Secure Area’ fyi
I prefer to use the ability to get rid of the handcuffs when taking the blue card and open the door fast.
Just hack the radio after he watches you take it
seems like no matter how many times I try this at best only one bouncer follows me behind the bar
if you have a friend with you go for dirty ice our record is 1:29 without restart so it's worth, it give 950xp ~
On normal the bartender part didn’t work for me
Dirty ice gives you 900-ish xp in 3-ish minutes on avarage.
Done perfectly not counting downtime or matchmaking you could do 20 Diry ice missions in 1 hour for about 18 000 exp.
Rock and Cradle on overkill done by you took about 5 minutes for 1 500 exp.
Done perfectly not counting downtime or matchmaking you could do 12 missions in 1 hour for about 18 000 exp.
Not to mention Dirty Ice is a much easier hiest where less can go wrong.
You dont count the money. If you tell me I can do a heist which takes a bit longer, but gives more xp, gives more money and is also more engaging, sign me up.
@@addrll1964
well yea. I went from a pure ease of use and effectiveness point of view on how to get exp. I never talked about the monetary gain from each hiest nor was that my goal. When you look up exp farm you're likely not looking to fill your pockets as much as you want to unlock stuff.
howd you get that suit?
Does higher levels in the guns give them more damage? Or is it just to unlock modifications?
Well some modifications have a stat boost for the guns’ damage but other than that it doesn’t increase the damage :/
It just unlocks mods unfortunately. For me the skill level ups are a better prize than gun mod unlocks doing this.
This would be sick if the game was playable
I think this doesn’t work anymore…. The place where you get the blue card is now public area…
i can't get the guards to move at 1:12
sprint in the SECURE area and the guards will hear it
i tried this method and at 1:11 why the guards on the door doesnt triggered search, any help?
Try running through the doorway. I think something about being in a secure area when you sprint causes the search, and the doorframe I came from is right about on the edge of their hearing radius. Also, make sure you're on a higher difficulty as they won't do this on lower difficulties.
im on overkill, gonna try this again in a few mins and gonna give some updates 👍
ok just tried this again.. (after a few matchmaking errors of course) it worked, u have to run thru the doorway (be precise about this or the guards will not get into "search mode") and it will triggered the search.. Thanks Ape!
@@Waizi13 Awesome, glad you got it working!
This just doesn’t work the guards don’t even move after I run behind the bartender
Yeah thats too much of a pain to do getting the bouncers to move
So what do yall be doing after you’ve maxed everything?😅
Complaining there's no content xD
I am new to this game why people Farm XP like what you get?
How doesn't the civilian that's on the vip making card detect you
It seems random to me, sometimes he does sometimes he doesn't
I love how they added the challenge system to stop stuff like this but it didn’t work anyway lol
Well the xp only unlocks the abilitys, however if you want to lvl up and get skill points you have to do all the challenges
You get more overall if you want weapon xp just doing dirty money, the runs change and aren’t consistent here
I don't get it, leveling system is gay cause cuz xp is only gotten by completing challenges. So if you already did the challenge you can't get it again, so how is this a farm if your getting the same challenges done
I had the whiteboard room spawn in a different location I’ve done this at least 10 times and that was a first for me
whiteboard is not always there... not the most helpful in case you get another spawn
Damn 20xp per hour, that's alot
Devs: servers back online, everything looks good now (at 3:30am) 😂
How did you play solo?
this isn't my set up the doors are switched around completely
Whiteboard has different spawns FYI so maybe show people every spawn and not just one
Dude the guy in that office room right at the beginning is up my a$$ everytime no mater how quick I pass him
What I dont understand is how the employee continues to detect me when I replicate your run. I think some skills are actually necessary to achieve this mission
only works on your weapons. not your characters lvl that goes off of ip it'll work for the short term
avg 27k hour with ice runs
I do my own Speedrun Dirty Ice Overkill in under 5 minutes. Much more preferred
Springing and crouching behind the bar won't work anymore. The guards wont get suspicious.
Nice can’t wait till this game comes out 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
They added more guards on this approach, near impossible lol
Only gonna work for the early levels. in payday 3 you dont get xp for missions only the challenges you complete during the mission
That's incorrect. Challenges give infamy; completions give weapon xp.
we should all just be doing the 99 boxes bug while it lasts
Still trying to escape people that join your game just to kill all civilians before the heist starts and then leave
Thats like roughly 7000xp an hour where did 20k come from