ROLEX EXPLORER V ROLEX SUBMARINER | WHICH WATCH TO PICK?
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- In this video your host discusses the difficult decision - whether to opt for a Rolex Submariner, or an Explorer as the first luxury watch purchase for the discerning gentleman.
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I own both and would highly recommend the Explorer as an everyday watch. 36mm is the perfect size as it flies under the radar. I have a 7.25 inch wrist and wear 36mm watch with no issues. Traditional gents watch for less money and more available than the Sub.
Yeah its a everyday watch, really hoping they bump back to 39mm and/or white dial.
36mm fits perfectly on my 7.5 inch wrist
yep. I have a 7.75in wrist and love mine. I thought it was a hair small after wearing mostly 42mm divers but I got used to it and now it is my favorite watch and the size I was so worried about is its best asset. It slides under my cuff and doesnt get hung up on a jacket, seatbelt or backpack strap. I dont have to think about it.
All about preference. I just bought the new 40mm for my 6.75 in wrist and it looks incredible. I found the new 36mm model far too dainty. The dial was fine I guess but the 19mm bracelet tapered down to 14mm felt and looked silly to me.
The Sub all the way, the most versatile, iconic, and masculine of all Rolex watches.
The explorer is too bland, 36mm is more of a large ladies watch. The 39mm explorer just doesn't make my toes tingle.
I own a Sub (green bezel) and a 36 mm Explorer. For every day use, I prefer the Explorer. It is a pleasure to wear and fits every occasion. Every time I wear my Sub, it gets noticed. The Explorer never gets noticed.
Nice combo 👌🏼 I've got an Explorer and a black dial Datejust at the moment. I'm considering adding the green bezel Submariner for a pop of colour 🤔
@@mazrashid6549 Thanks. I also have a black dial Datejust - that was my first Rolex. And I have a green dial OP 36 - that is my favorite Rolex. I highly recommend the green bezel Sub - it is a fantastic watch. I've been wearing my Sub daily for the last three weeks and really enjoying it. Cheers!
Perfect summary of the two. I've had an Explorer for a little over a year now, & just recently added a submariner to my collection, & you're absolutely right about the sub being. little too much when you're wearing a suit, whereas the Explorer can do it all. One other point to consider with the Sub is that sadly its iconic design can be quite an attraction to thieves, so I tend not to wear it when I'm out and about in town. Personally I'm considering adding a G-Shock to my collection for those situations.
A good call. You can’t go wrong with a CasioOak as a beater… and the Sub for safer situations. Sad situation we have to deal with… but true. 👍🇬🇧
Yes completely agree....that's why I'm happy to wear my Explorer anywhere.....my other watch for when I might be out doing heavy manual stuff is a Titanium G-Shock ... Full Metal Black Titanium Ref. GMW B5000TB-01.
That watch (before I got the Rolex) I wore for 24/7 for 2 years and it's basically bullet proof...!!...radio controlled and solar powered .
Agreed particularly in london, wearing a sub 24/7 is just asking for trouble. The explorer is much stealthier
How sad that your afraid to wear a premium watch in London.
I'm glad, I live in Florida where you can wear what ever you like and not be fearful.
I would not bother other wearing a watch " that you need to fly under the radar with." The explorer is just meh.
The 116610ln is the quintessential masculine mens watch.
@@rafaeloliva6425 Each to their own I guess. My sub still gets plenty of wear, I just choose when and where to avoid the more obvious risks.
Also, on the plus side, I’m glad I don’t feel the need to assert my masculinity on TH-cam comments, so at least I’ve got that going for me.
I’d definitely go Explorer. It’s the perfect size, understated, and under the radar of most people. I can’t afford one, but I have a Tudor Black Bay 36, which ticks very similar boxes - I’d be worried to wear a sub when I’m out and about, given the rise in watch thefts.
Excellent summary Ash. I own both models as well and wear my Explorer 1 - 90% of the time. The Sub is also very blingy and does attract attention. The comfort on wrist and light weight case make the Explorer 1 unbeatable for me. If I could only own 1 watch it would be my Explorer 1.
Having a 16610 Submariner and then buying a 124270 Explorer I found the latter a little underwhelming initially. However the Explorer’s sheer versatility just gets to you and it’s pretty much my daily wear. Only watch you really need in my humble opinion so would be my choice as well.
I would get the submariner... It has more presence, it's elegant and you can time down your cooking! 😊
Just got both, after the relase of Explorer 40. One for daily wearing in a low profile and modest lifestyle, one for weekend and holiday with something iconic and speical.
I have the same dilemma and totally agree with you, the Explorer seems so much more versatile. In reality the submariner may not fit under the cuff. The Explorer is perfect one watch collection 👌🏽
Very comfortable wear
Ash, I was fortunate enough to purchase the Explorer from my AD just after release. I was unsure of the 36 size having been used to larger watches, but after a few months just was not comfortable with the size and subsequently sold it. It is a great watch but unfortunately not for me.
I am on the wait list for the no date sub and hope to purchase one before I reach 70. I am 65 at present.
Throughly enjoy your content which is refreshing and honest unlike some other watch channels.
Take care from one retired officer to another
The Sub with Ceramic bezel has the edge over time, the Explorer (my favourite watch) will be battered by scratches... but the Sub will maintain it's black glittering lustre for a lifetime
Love both watches but the Explorer has been my favourite watch for about 20 years. A true 1 watch collection due to its versatility with straps alone, black, brown leather, steel, rubber, Nato. They all look good on it. Not many watches look at home while hiking, sailing and mountaineering (Designed for it) but also look just as at home with a Suit or Tux. Because before Rolex became the no1 (arguably) status symbol for success during the 80's (It was the 80's power icon), it was the G-Shock sports watch for 40 years beforehand. Explorer for me, hopefully in the near future.
The only real decision would be 36mm or 39mm, as I nearly have an 8" wrist, 39mm might be the better option but the 36mm just looks better.
Get the Submariner (Black Date or No Date) if you want 1 watch for a long while or to be your only watch for life. If you get the Explorer 1 you’re going to start a collection, because you will always want to find that next itch. This is an observation on many TH-cam watch owners and an opinion.
How? It's the opposite... The sub means you actually need a second watch for formal. The explorer allows you never to need another watch unless you are a diver. By the way they are both fantastic and a sub is also a great one watch collection 👍
So true if I sold my collection and decided to have one watch I'd choose the Submariner non date. But when it comes to watches I like variety hence why I own 7 watches.
I would disagree I have the sub. If you like Both go for the explorer, it low profile the world we live in is a war zone. It ant safe!
Disagree, I own more than one Rolex and find that my 116610ln is absolutely the most versatile of all Rolex watches
I can rock it with jeans and also looks just fine with a sports jacket. Much more watch than the undersized explorer 36mm.
@@SaintWill70 'need' in the loose watch collecting sense of the word. My point was explorers are more versatile if you care about dressing for the occasion - which, since we're in the obscure depths of materialistic youtube, most commenters probably do.
Thanks ash as always good reviews and honestly about these icons watches
Like a lot of people, i got both. The explorer is easier to wear for a everyday watch. For holidays and weekends, i prefer the sub.
Solid overview, field, tool, utility and versatility is the explorer. A very purposeful timepiece.
I'm really loving this channel.
I sold my Sub. Now I have a Cartier Santos, an Omega Speedmaster reverse panda and my beloved Explorer. If I only could have one watch , the Explorer would be my choice.
Just make sure you can handle the 36mm first and no date. Was too small for me when I tried it.
39mm BB58 black gold colour is worth a look or Omega Aquaterra too, for sport work dual useage. Speedy can do both quite nicely too 😉
Just got my Sub date after a 2.5 year wait. Definitely worth it.
That cow mooed at just the right time at the end. Perfectly executed with both style and panache 😂 🐮
It's tough to choose between the world's best field watch and the world's best diver. Great comparison!
Best content ash
❤your videos
Keep up the good work
Glad you like them!
Your watch videos are outstanding. Thank you
Glad you like them!
Can't go wrong with either of them. Amazing watches, thanks for the video.
Very nice to hear a experienced opinion with good arguments.
Glad to see you purchased the true Sub NO DATE! The date complication does not belong on a double black Sub
Great video. The sub has never appealed to me. I thought for sure I would get a 39 explorer, but when I tried it on I hated it. For whatever reason the explorer just works great in 36, a size I’d normally say is too small
Excellent video!
Flexible, versatile, universally wearable, rough and rugged, iconic, beautiful, classically elegant, the original bond watch.. Explorer 1 36mm. I LOVE THIS WATCH ♥ (7-inch wrist)
This year is the 70th anniversary of the explorer...and on Monday rolex is announcing its new releases..I cant wait to see what special commeratiive edition or new variant of the explorer is released...I dare say bark may wish to have a look at this come Monday
I really enjoyed the video. I did expect you to choose the Explorer, mainly because of the size and versatility. I myself am still on my journey towards my goal of owning my first Rolex. My choice is the Submariner 124060. I visited my local A.D. again yesterday and we had a nice conversation about the different options.
Ash, I own both too albeit the Explorer is the Steel/Yellow Gold 124273 model and even though I really like the Submariner I prefer the Explorer also. Great video I really enjoyed the comparison.
The 124060 is a nice balance between the classic and the professional Rolex.
As an owner of an Explorer 39mm and a Sub Date 40mm supercase i would make the same choice, i stay with the explorer!!
The only watch you need, by far the watch most wrist times takes in my collection
Good morning Ash. Good advice for Rolex entry level watches. Of the Rolex brand those are the two I am drawn to. Cheers Ron
First time here. Good video. Just subscribed.
Thanks and welcome
I’ve had both and the Sub was the one that stuck for me. No date for me. For me the Sub is versatile enough and just fine for a suit once a year.
Agree. The versatility and comfort of the explorer is unmatched
Another great explorer video. One critique and one question, I’d love this video even more if you’d set the times of the watches to the same time so you can compare them exactly. Who made your deck jacket? Thanks for the quality content.
It's from The GAp - about 8-years ago.
" Stealthy style " by jove sir, what a fine expression you coined there.
I want both tbh but for now I love my 126900 Air-King which is basically a 39 Explorer with personality
Good analysis.
Nice presentation 👍
recently stumbled upon your videos and enjoying .. completely agree with your opinion on these two watches but for me it had to be the Sub .. I rarely dress formal but have other lesser watches that fit that category ..
just got my one and only so far Rolex Submariner - 007 model no date ..
Great piece of a 2022 edition ..
Great video ash! I agree - the explorer is the more versatile and class piece of the two. I suspect this video will collect a ton of views….
Great video Ash. Would love to see you do a video on the Submariner Date VS No Date. The aged old question that constantly divides & offers a great debate.
What debate is there? You want the date, get the date version, simple! 😄
@@iamnew7545 Does a date window belong on a dive watch, why is the date version more popular than the no date, iconic Rolex design with the cyclops. And so it goes...
I sold my 2019 sub during lockdown I prefer my seamaster, I bought the two tone explorer and it’s barely left my wrist
I wear Explorer 1 on NATO strap inside my 7.5 inch wrist. It’s a go anywhere and do anything watch. Diver style watches including GMT’s looks little too noticeable and flashy to my taste for everyday wear.
I'm lucky enough to own both and they each have their place and situational strengths ... For the young man in question, as a solution to his one watch requirements, I agree with your choice ... The explorer in this case for him.
Having a 6.25 wrist, I opted for an Explorer for it's size and versatility, not to mention it being so elegant. I had the choice of getting a Sub but found it a bit too large for my wrist especially the long clasp. Also have a BB58 which I think offers a ton of value and fills the divers itch. Hard to believe the Tudor is my most comfortable watch perhaps because of the female end links.
Thanks Ash!
I think its the Explorer for me. Being in a service facing industry I think the stealth of the Explorer is a trait I could probably benefit from - and the point about versatility as it will be the only watch in my collection for some time.
Good luck and enjoy!
Love your content , thanks from France !
Glad you like them!
@@TheChapsGuide I'm definitely thinking of turning to a Rolex Explorer 40, I like this simplicity and versatility, I wanted to know how is the chromalight on your model? I haven't had the opportunity to see it in store yet.. if you make other videos with your watch, I love seeing the rendering with chromalight in the dark!
Recently ordered the new 40mm Explorer. It will be my exit watch 😢….I hope it arrives before I exit 🙏
You know there are other watch brands mr Chaps right?;) get yourself a nice Timex! The amount of times your outdoors I also think a GShock is in order!!!!??? Possibly a Mudmaster?!;)
I do prefer to wear my watches as they are intended, so they get a good bashing regardless of the brand. But I have a special soft spot for Lorus for any suicide missions.
@@TheChapsGuide hahahaha nice!
From a style standpoint, there is only one choice: Submariner. It goes well with any clothes and activity. I wear mine on the golf course, I wear mine working outside, I've even worn mine with a tuxedo.
Before i got my 124270 i had a 16610, it was my daily beater. Somehow the Explorer did get all the wrist time and I end up selling my 16610 for a 18238 day-date for the more special arrangements. Love the 36mm Explore go for it! :)
Good Lord, the 114060 is an absolute stunner. Such a beautiful timepiece.
I wish I actually have this problem one day 😂
Nice vid ash. Would like to see a GMT vs Submariner next please
Challenge accepted
Just let me know where and when you can walk in and buy both or either?
Great video 👌
Glad you enjoyed
I have both. Want to get ride of one. No idea which..
I have the Explorer 124270, and I adore it! I would one day like to own the Submariner 126060. I think that would make the perfect two watch collection.
If you asked me this a month ago I'd have probably said the Submariner....
Right now? Explorer all day! In the 36mm at that.
Good comparison. And two great Rolex watches.
Thanks for watching!
The Explorer is very discrete, very suitable for environment where you want to wear a great and luxury watch but do not want to draw attention, such as in the office or on the street.
Usual dilemma for lots of folk.
I have a Sub LV and 36mm explorer ( now only used by wifey) and really waiting for the new release for it to be 39/40mm.
The Sub feels heavier for long use at times but I still its the perfect size watch than the 36mm for most men. 🎉❤
Love your videos.
And love the efforts and detailing in ur videos
Reminds me of my earlier job at ExxonMobil Surry Leatherhead / very similar natural surroundings❤
I own both of these like many others commenting and there is definitely a place for both in a collection, they both serve different purposes. As a daily wear, 100% the 36mm explorer. It's much lighter than the sub (around 119g vs 150g); the 40mm explorer has less purpose in my opinion as it is heavier and is a similar size to the other rolex models. The 36mm and has a slimmer bracelet compared with the submariner and slightly lower profile case, meaning it is comfortable for daily wear, to the point you forget you're wearing it. It is more discreet, easily slides under the cuff and flies under the radar.
The submariner is a great alternative to the daily watch, ideal for gym & sports incl. swimming, meetings, holidays & social occasions where the extra weight and extra attention isn't an issue. I disagree that the submariner can't be worn formally, the same goes for the GMT, they are iconic and classy. Bond often seen wearing the submariner formally in the movies. A stainless-steel 5711 is also a dive watch and can be worn formally, however, I think the design and size & thickness does have a part to play as the Omega Ploprof or Sea-Dweller Deep Sea would be unsuitable. The ceramic bezel, polished sides on the case, bracelet & bezel grip and white gold hands & hour markers helps the sub wear well formally wear. I would typically choose a precious metal day-date or daytona for formal occasions though as they will do this better.
If I was buying just one, I would go for the 124270 explorer if it was to be worn daily, and the no-date submariner if it was being worn a few days a week/occasionally then get the explorer later.
Same boat. I have cronos sub and explorer. I think I will buy the Rolex explorer 39mm used that’s my grail
I have both. The new Explorer 36 and the Sub 41mm no date. The Explorer is the perfect everyday watch. I prefer to wear the Explorer. It looks fantastic. The Sub is "The Star" "THe Rolex" if you know what i mean. It does attract too much attention
I had to wait 2 weeks to get the Explorer 1, and it is my first Rolex as well. It seems supplies are getting back up.
Which country is this?
@@Chillguy849 Australia
A very good and useful discussion
Glad it was helpful!
Whilst I like the EX 39 (the only one my wrists could possibly use because the 36mm is more like 35.5mm and is way too small for many men), the bezel being steel would get scratched to high heaven if I wore it as a beater, so while I do like its simple classy looks, I would purchase the sub definitely. The ceramic bezel will last way longer and look "new" for much longer. But I think the new sub releases should have a third colour to add more variety to the dial (like a red etc), it's a bit boring now in just black when the watch is basically the worlds number 1 homage watch.
I'd suggest buying sterile dial versions of both of them. Each would cost about USD100. U can then feel the weight of them on your wrist, whether it would fit under your shirt cuff, etc. One would then be able to make a better choice.
Review is well done. However, I'd have compared the 39 or 40 Explorer to the Sub, rather than the 36 Explorer, to make the comparison more apples and oranges rather than apples and grapes...when speaking of size or wrist presence. I have the 39 Explorer and a neo-vintage 40mm Pepsi GMT-Master (which, of course, parallels the 40mm Sub, size-wise), and I find the look and feel of the two to be quite distinct though equally pleasing to the eye and equally comfortable on the wrist. The two make for a versatile Rolex mini-collection, with the GMT on the more sporty side and the Explorer, despite its 'tooliness', on the more casual, business-suit, even dressy side.
Sub all day all the way; that glidelock clasp and clicking bezel wins for me 💯
I had exactly the same dilemma 26 years ago and I ended up with the Explorer .Would I make the same choice today?Any day of the week 👍🤩The Explorer is the only one and done of their catalog.😤💪
Absolutely
Bought a Tissot Seastar 1000 40mm yesterday. 😁
Good choice!
I prefer the tudor 39 instead of the no date sub..
I have an op39, iwc 39mm chrono spitfire and orient ray ii as a beater/daily...
I find the sub too boring a.k.a. safe..
Tried on the 43.5mm black titanium/ ceramic seamaster and was blown away..🤯
Finding more and more reasons not to go with the sub for the next purchase other than resale value..
Buying what you like is soo true for me
Hi Ash, loving the comparison video's. I have the dilemma of these 2 watches at the moment, and your video's are helping a lot. The explorer 1 suits my understated personality more than the sub, but every time I see the sub, I can't stop looking!
I would recommend getting both but the Explorer first for its versatility. Prefer the new Explorer (124270) and the 14060M sub. Classics. As someone else pointed out, the Tudor BB36 is also a great watch, and an alternative to the Explorer if you can't come to terms with the taper on the bracelet.
@@SaintWill70 By versatility I'm referring to the variety of occasions it can be worn. I've worn mine on long, remote hikes in difficult conditions but also with a suit to the opera. It worked great for both.
As far as Rolex or any other high-end brand goes, it's best to buy them second hand, preferably through private sales.
As stated below, one can even buy a Tudor for even less outlay.
The watches one finds this way are usually incredibly well kept... And we can skip the markup from professional watch dealers.
Also... My personal opinion is that the Rolex Explorer is a much more versatile timepiece.... And the more elegant of the two.
Cheers
If you can find them cheaper pre-owned then do it. Good luck finding a pre-owned ceramic Sub cheaper then list price… a 36mm Explorer maybe… as not as sought after. 👍🇬🇧
I personally don’t like the way Sub looks and the clasp/bracelet is overgrown for the current iteration. 116610LN is king. I’d take the Explorer. Actually that’s a lie - I’d want a date so I’d get a Datejust.
I've also been looking at this duo and the problem is as you said in a different video that £6100 for the Explorer is quite a lot (I believe it was £5100 a little over year ago). Especially when considering that technically it is the same as the OP 36, which goes for £5100 at the moment. It is a very nice watch though and I like how inconspicuous it is.
That’s why I am choosing to go with the OP36. I prefer the dressy dial and 20mm lugs. Maybe one day I’ll get the Explorer
The Submariner is the cool watch.
two handsome ROLEX wrist watches . I have the submariner/ date . I think the 'cyclops' - is''ROLEX'' . - either way , you can't lose. stay safe ~ JDS/CT
You can't buy either of them so it doesn't really matter does it?
Both
Are they too similar to own both?
Hi ash I would like your thoughts on Omega? I am fine with my victorinox watch & Apple watch but if in the future I would like a automatic omega, an automatic in general. I know your knowledgeable in rolex but what your intake. On a unrelated question what your input on tartan/ check trousers? I want to be a bit more bold and already have solid colour chinos but what a would like something out there.
Omega make magnificent watches that are at least as good as Rolex, if not somewhat better. I personally resonate more with the Rolex ethos myself, but if Omega introduce a piece that sings out to me, I would certainly have no hesitation in adding one to my small collection.
I just got the call last week from my AD for the explorer. It took 18 months from going on the list with no purchase history. I don’t know how true this is but the AD said the people above me pulled out because of the cost of living. Maybe I got lucky 🤷🏾♂️
And with the Watch price crash over the last year, there is more availability at the AD because alot of Rolexs sell close to retail in the grey market now, and the flippers aren't buying them
I’ve had 3 Rolex’s offered to me by ADs in the past 2 week which has been quite a surprise! However, they are all within the waiting range that the ADs mentioned in the beginning - 2 years+ for the subs and 9-12 months for the datejust.
Confession time, I used to do a lot of Scuba Diving and 10 years ago when I retired from the Met I bought a no date Sub. It is my go to watch and I would buy it again.
While I do like the look of the Explorer, if I ever buy another Rolex it will be a Pepsi GMT.
Thanks for sharing. Out of interest what made you go for the no date Sub over the date version? I ask as in that dilemma today
@@rezar6894 For me the face of the no date Sub is more symmetrical, the cyclops date bubble spoils the look of the watch.
@@SteveMrW - thanks, makes sense. You must have got the ceramic bezel version as just came out then. Am I right in that, the no date is more iconic as the first submariners were without the date , as was the model James Bond wore? Cheers
@@rezar6894 I believe the original Bond watch was a 5513 (no winder protection).
Although I bought my watch 10 years ago it was as new and not new, it does not have a ceramic bezel insert.
If the Explorer was still a 39mm I might agree, however I think that 36mm is too small for most gents. I’d steer him towards a 41mm DateJust with the black dial with batons, smooth bezel and Oyster bracelet… or a black OP41. Or wait until W&W on Monday… there could be a new Explorer 1 release to savour? 👍🇬🇧 For my money a No-date Sub all day long… iconic.
Bark, you've just got to try both on in person. Then you'll know which one is right for you.
Thoughts on the Explorer 40mm?
One of my videos in the coming week is on this very watch
Never even thought about the Explorer growing up. Always the black steel Submariner Date. Good thing I don’t ever wear a suit. 😊
And now we have a 40mm choice for 2023 in the Explorer
for my 8" wrist would you still go explorer 40, or the larger submariner?
Both could work well for you sir, although the Exp will look larger, as it has no bezel, which always makes a watch look smaller.
One of them records time lapsed up to 60 mins and can also place a marker on a given time as reminder. So both doing "one thing only" is not accurate.
The Explorer is a watch that your average collector begins and ends their watch journey with.