@@farrider3339 What if panta Rhei refers to matter, but the logos is solid logical spirit - that of absolute reason and form - manifesting and enveloping only in the individial who can lay down own selfish pursuit and entitled thinking: those who explain all of reality away in arrogant know-it-all; instead of opening up to the complexity of it and looking for truth therein?
I saw this shortly after you posted it. Never really left me, iIt always comes back to my mind now and then, and this quote is just.. it. Love the way you used the music there, and the picture. Thank you so much 🤍
What they said! I have appreciated the shit out of Alan watts for a while now, but I've only woken up to Mr McKenna very recently - and am in total awe of the webs he weaves to makes you see how humans are part of the tapestry...
Terence was akin to a psychedelic messiah, and departed from us too soon. Thankfully we have his written words and recordings to muse over. They are astoundingly rich, meaningful strings of thought!
It’s rare that the first 10secs of a lecture is more comprehensive than the title. Furthermore, when I’m in the seeking mode but not certain if I can really stomach more spiritual cliches, I am immediately sobered by the clear matter-of-factness that Terence demonstrates.
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Only video I've ever seen with over 100 thumbs up, with none going the other direction. Testament to how powerful his message really is. Haters ain't even gonna hate 🙃☮❤☯️
Wow. I love Terence so much words do not suffice. Is it possible for a straight man to fall in love with another straight man that he has never met based on the wordplay and concepts and narration he portrays through soft spoken metaphors and explanations that arouse his very essence of being into falling in love with everything that is and is not, that has happened and has not, and that will happen and will not ?
Terence McKenna's Lectures are the only thing on TH-cam or any Live Stream that I can listen too when my current version of reality starts to emulsify with that horrible script. If they had better writers it would not be as bad. Terence McKenna , and some Poetry and E.A. Poe audio books are the only Media I find is not trying to date rape my Mind or gets too boring. I wish Terence McKenna would have done more reading he is the only one that I have ever heard comment about William Blakes Poems rhym stretcing pronunciation.He does not say exactly Blake's stuff must be read or sung with the rhymes he stretches , but I find it is necessary for them to to paint the image of a Tyger on my brain. Terence was explaining one of the meanings of a outrageously big word. The kind of word no one else but Terence McKenna can use , anyone else , regardless, even Patrick Stewart can not , He can come close to doing it though. Anyone else it makes them just seem pretentious and all. He says about this word "pronounce it like 'try'. Just like William Blake. Symmetreye, not tree. " Then he recites just the first quatrain of Tyger -This to my Mind is more a song than a Poem. eye and try should rhyme. Tyger Tyger, burning bright, In the forests of the night; What immortal hand or eye, Could frame thy fearful symmetry? In what distant deeps or skies. Burnt the fire of thine eyes? On what wings dare he aspire? What the hand, dare seize the fire? And what shoulder, & what art, Could twist the sinews of thy heart? And when thy heart began to beat, What dread hand? & what dread feet? What the hammer? what the chain, In what furnace was thy brain? What the anvil? what dread grasp, Dare its deadly terrors clasp! When the stars threw down their spears And water'd heaven with their tears: Did he smile his work to see? Did he who made the Lamb make thee? Tyger Tyger burning bright, In the forests of the night: What immortal hand or eye, Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?
We are like naked bodies, standing out in the 30 below winters chill, freezing, all huddling around the only faucet in town that also only drips one drop of warm water at a time, and yet, we all are desperate to have our moment, in the warmth that this source provides
Whilst meditating I reached out for my partner who died last Christmas time .. a moment of insight when I really knew ( rather than rationalising) that his, ours and everything is here and gone in the blink of an eye. A painful, but in some senses, a moment of liberation.
It's interesting that if you listen to Watts, he more or less says it's the other way around: our culture is trying to make life conform to abstract I.E spiritual ideals that they could never fit and as a result we have no real respect for matter and therefore consume it in a self-destructive way. And yet here Terrence is saying the root of the problem is the denial of the spiritual. I'd say both of these problems are in effect because the two are clearly present, but are divorced from each other in the way we generally perceive the world.
Yeah. Jordan Peterson describes that the logical/spirit part would be considered 'masculine' within our mythological history; and the chaos/openness of the natural worlf, feminine. Both are able to be described, but know-it-all self-entitled arrogancy towards order is what makes the denominator ego destructive towards the other; and full on surrender to nature might lead to neglect of other parts of ourselves, which are also clearly human: compassion, love, seeking security, etc. What can we state? Wisdom is living between both. That is the way, as would the Daoist say.
Just understood that if you see the material world is only a small part of everything and its the spiritual thats central it has this result.....materialists unconciously pick up you are not in their world, they feel uncomfortable with you and turn against you. Explains why i felt for no apparent reason rejection from some people. Its a consumer, materialist world (mainly) and spiritual people are not accepted....for me its a lesson and hopefully i will be more aware now of this .
Every time Mckenna says "Nothing lasts" I always imagine nothing as just another state which "lasts". "Nothing is saved" as in somehow nothingness is also a state from which everything springs. When the computer is switched off, that can be viewed as nothingness from within, but the machine is still sitting there.
"Nothing lasts. Nothing is saved..." yes, not even this imaginary thing called a soul. The freedom to be nothing..or something, is immanent and transcendent.
@@surfinmuso37 The Tibetian (Buddhist) Book of the Dead completely denies that untruth you tell. Of course you have a soul, nothing would mean anything otherwise, and nobody would bother being a Buddhist would they if their actions meant nothing after this life.
All roads lead to 'God' and However it/he/she will manifest to you. The story of truth is unhideable and to each individual will be proven unto themselves.
800 Megaflops is laughable today. The currently fastest supercomputer can do 200 petaflops. That's 250 million times faster. Even the computer you're watching this video on is up to 100,000 times faster. Even an old iphone 5S is 100 times faster than that. The speed at which computing power increases never ceases to amaze me.
Why are we so obsessed with speed? Seems like distraction, when the real focus should be on who is using them(corporations/government) and for what? Every day our rights are being undermined by corporate sponsored governments, while we are all distracted by our wonderful toys and faster porn downloads.
It shouldn't amaze you, it's just the usual inevitable of technology - of course for as long as all this is here, it is going to get faster and have more resources. It's the same R&D over and over again as far as MO goes.
Hey, can you point me in the direction of where the original audio of terence came from please? I want to use a chunk of it for a presentation, but it's the exact bit where the music comes in, and I'd need it without. Thanks.
Does anyone know really what he's talking about when he talks about mathematics and computers? I mean what is he really saying? Is there any way we can use computer ourselves in that way?
I once created an artwork of the vagina dentata for an MA course. The (male) professor refused to mark it, because it was "too female. I reckon he'd give Ahab a run for his money.
Beautiful!! So, love is spirit, and spirit is permanent. Permanence is not static but rather an infinite flow like a fibonacci sequence. So love is the infinite creative flow that we anticipate from our impermanent biological incarnation of spirit.
There would be no impermanence without the existence of something to be impermanent. Therefore, wherever any of the individual manifestations of the whole of reality decays, it is replaced by something else. Nothing goes on except the going on of things not going on.
The wheel of samsara. The problem of identification with the temporal versus That which lies beneath. The great sages all urged identification with That. Thou are That. Noise cannot be beheld unless against a vast silence.
Yep. Modern man wants evidence in a form that conforms to his small mind and ignorant expectations. The approach of finding what we don't know and the spaces in between seem to be filled with a treasure of realization. The Drukama tradition has been teaching realization and has a step by step curriculum check it out. Be well all!
Is there a place where I can download all of these talks at once? I have paranoia that it may be censored and I would love to have some personal copies.
Oh Terrance, the notion that things should have a purpose is the very Technic mindset that led to the denial of Telos. It would be better to say that only machines have a purpose outside of their own existence, living things are their own purpose.
These old ass Desktops he brags about their speed and their specs like it's a God. I have to laugh because I had a commodore 64 , and a Kaypro II, and that shit could put you on a bummer ,man. It was a real drag, just lame 'vis a vis' the stuff of today. I learned 'vis a vis' from Terence.
Now those are popular for retro reasons. There's a lot of design elements to old machines and software that has not been kept to, resulting in less than what could be. For example the lack of loading times for old operating systems - used to be that you switch it on and it's there, in VROM. Same goes for consoles & games.
Everything in the universe is either matter or energy. Matter and energy are two different forms of the same thing, where 'matter' retains its shape but loses movement (the opposite of what happens when you apply heat to a solid), while "energy" has no set shape nor does it retain any form - it is simply there to push things around. This can be observed through rather simple experiments, such as heating up ice-cubes placed in glasses with water until they turn into gas (water vapor) that will eventually disappear from our world. We could also look at the 'big bang' theory, which hypothesizes that everything in this universe was once compressed into an extremely small point of matter and energy. In other words, we're exploring the same thing as I suggested above - only to a much smaller degree. In both cases, we can see that the universe is a constant process of change, where everything in it keeps changing into something else. This is why scientists refer to matter and energy as 'constants' - they are always there as part of our world; however, their form changes over time. In addition, there are many other things that change as well. For example, the world around us is constantly changing in terms of population and demographics (the number of inhabitants in an area). This means that 'spirit', which refers to a sense of belongingness or togetherness among people with shared beliefs, ideas and values - is also subject to changes. When it comes to the relationship between humans and 'spirit', we can also see that this is not static. We ourselves change, as do our values and beliefs. This means that the level of togetherness among us (and therefore, what constitutes 'spirit') changes too. So, we can see why the relationship between humans and 'spirit' is not a constant. It changes constantly.
You just had to add the music in the second half… come on man. Let us musicians choose our own music when we listen to McKenna please. If he didnt choose to speak over this you shouldn’t make him do so.
I love this channel and McKenna, but animals do lie, cheat, and emote complex behavior. The footage of penguins making nests and stealing stones from each other is so revealing in this way. We didn’t have so much video access back then though.
He’s missing a lot I don’t believe in divine purpose. I don’t think anything matters. And I don’t believe those feeling and actions are unique to humans. I think I dog can deceive and fell like shit too. Love Terrance tho. God isn’t real tho
"Nothing lasts. Nothing is saved... and this is, you know, our glory and our agony."
@@farrider3339 What if panta Rhei refers to matter, but the logos is solid logical spirit - that of absolute reason and form - manifesting and enveloping only in the individial who can lay down own selfish pursuit and entitled thinking: those who explain all of reality away in arrogant know-it-all; instead of opening up to the complexity of it and looking for truth therein?
U guys think that u are right n thats okay....it really is okay...but everything i know...is that i dont know nothing!*** smiling at u guys ✌😎
@@TommyGunsche such a nice attitude to life man. peace
I saw this shortly after you posted it. Never really left me, iIt always comes back to my mind now and then, and this quote is just.. it.
Love the way you used the music there, and the picture. Thank you so much 🤍
One of my favorites quotes!
Who else could weave narrative, humour, etymology and spiritual truth in such a beautiful way 😊
Allan Watts is another good example :)
@@shaggyterrell8460 Allan watts indeed
What they said! I have appreciated the shit out of Alan watts for a while now, but I've only woken up to Mr McKenna very recently - and am in total awe of the webs he weaves to makes you see how humans are part of the tapestry...
Alan watts comes close but definitely a different vibe and his use of euphemisms and metaphors can become a little tiring, I like terences real talk
Terence was akin to a psychedelic messiah, and departed from us too soon. Thankfully we have his written words and recordings to muse over. They are astoundingly rich, meaningful strings of thought!
Whoever runs this channel I just want to say
Thank You very Much seriously
Thanks for watching!
- Peter
@@wpahp you might have indirectly saved my life. Thanks for the incredible talk!
Me too! Thank You…thank you all
nobody ever touched me in a way which mc kenna does, he never died, he lives on through the net, we miss you
I absolutely love Terence McKenna, and all those that spread the beauty of his work!
It’s rare that the first 10secs of a lecture is more comprehensive than the title. Furthermore, when I’m in the seeking mode but not certain if I can really stomach more spiritual cliches, I am immediately sobered by the clear matter-of-factness that Terence demonstrates.
It’s rare to find someone talk about this stuff without it sounding like hippy dippy bullshit
This dude quite literally had a second brain growing that was dedicated to language articulation. Pure genius with his words.
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Got you on spotify now
The desert encroaches, woe to him who's desert is within.
Profesor Mckenna, gracias por tanto.
Only video I've ever seen with over 100 thumbs up, with none going the other direction. Testament to how powerful his message really is. Haters ain't even gonna hate 🙃☮❤☯️
I could listen to him on repeat and not get tired! Beautiful images btw :) Love .
Finally understand what telos is. Mckenna is the best.
Wow. I love Terence so much words do not suffice. Is it possible for a straight man to fall in love with another straight man that he has never met based on the wordplay and concepts and narration he portrays through soft spoken metaphors and explanations that arouse his very essence of being into falling in love with everything that is and is not, that has happened and has not, and that will happen and will not ?
Thanks for constantly providing things to ponder. Mush love friend
Me hace tan bien escuchar a este hombre, una y otra vez...
Perfect! Love this! And I love you.. thank you!🙏❤
Beautiful and relevant distillation. Thanks for organizing and sharing this with us all!
Solid point, here you will find free ground young one.
Terence McKenna's Lectures are the only thing on TH-cam or any Live Stream that I can listen too when my current version of reality starts to emulsify with that horrible script. If they had better writers it would not be as bad. Terence McKenna , and some Poetry and E.A. Poe audio books are the only Media I find is not trying to date rape my Mind or gets too boring. I wish Terence McKenna would have done more reading he is the only one that I have ever heard comment about William Blakes Poems rhym stretcing pronunciation.He does not say exactly Blake's stuff must be read or sung with the rhymes he stretches , but I find it is necessary for them to to paint the image of a Tyger on my brain. Terence was explaining one of the meanings of a outrageously big word. The kind of word no one else but Terence McKenna can use , anyone else , regardless, even Patrick Stewart can not , He can come close to doing it though. Anyone else it makes them just seem pretentious and all. He says about this word "pronounce it like 'try'. Just like William Blake. Symmetreye, not tree. " Then he recites just the first quatrain of Tyger -This to my Mind is more a song than a Poem. eye and try should rhyme.
Tyger Tyger, burning bright,
In the forests of the night;
What immortal hand or eye,
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?
In what distant deeps or skies.
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand, dare seize the fire?
And what shoulder, & what art,
Could twist the sinews of thy heart?
And when thy heart began to beat,
What dread hand? & what dread feet?
What the hammer? what the chain,
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the anvil? what dread grasp,
Dare its deadly terrors clasp!
When the stars threw down their spears
And water'd heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the Lamb make thee?
Tyger Tyger burning bright,
In the forests of the night:
What immortal hand or eye,
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?
Thanks for this.
@@voicelesslanguages I messed up though. Its 'try' symme'try' not syme'tree'. I had it backwards . Sorry.
We are like naked bodies, standing out in the 30 below winters chill, freezing, all huddling around the only faucet in town that also only drips one drop of warm water at a time, and yet, we all are desperate to have our moment, in the warmth that this source provides
So true, it is all coming down to lack of spirit. Lost zombies = scientism.
i needed this... thank you
Good to see you here my friend
Needed this ! Amazing to listen. Nothing lasts not our lovers not your enemies not even your dear self. Soften to the flow. I love you all
Whilst meditating I reached out for my partner who died last Christmas time .. a moment of insight when I really knew ( rather than rationalising) that his, ours and everything is here and gone in the blink of an eye. A painful, but in some senses, a moment of liberation.
Beautiful...
Beautiful keys towards the end
BEAUTIFUL!!!
It's interesting that if you listen to Watts, he more or less says it's the other way around: our culture is trying to make life conform to abstract I.E spiritual ideals that they could never fit and as a result we have no real respect for matter and therefore consume it in a self-destructive way. And yet here Terrence is saying the root of the problem is the denial of the spiritual.
I'd say both of these problems are in effect because the two are clearly present, but are divorced from each other in the way we generally perceive the world.
Yeah. Jordan Peterson describes that the logical/spirit part would be considered 'masculine' within our mythological history; and the chaos/openness of the natural worlf, feminine. Both are able to be described, but know-it-all self-entitled arrogancy towards order is what makes the denominator ego destructive towards the other; and full on surrender to nature might lead to neglect of other parts of ourselves, which are also clearly human: compassion, love, seeking security, etc.
What can we state? Wisdom is living between both. That is the way, as would the Daoist say.
Spirit imbibes matter, so hence scientism is destructive to both.
interesting point. would you care to elaborate a bit further?
@@prophet4332 there are spirits that weave through the elements
I love you Terence
makes a grown man cry
Casually revisited this video at precisely the time I needed to hear its message. Coincidence? Probably not.
Nothing Lasts, but Nothing is Lost - Shpongle :) Considering Terrence is on the album I wonder if this very talk inspired the title.
It did.
Just understood that if you see the material world is only a small part of everything and its the spiritual thats central it has this result.....materialists unconciously pick up you are not in their world, they feel uncomfortable with you and turn against you. Explains why i felt for no apparent reason rejection from some people. Its a consumer, materialist world (mainly) and spiritual people are not accepted....for me its a lesson and hopefully i will be more aware now of this .
Every time Mckenna says "Nothing lasts" I always imagine nothing as just another state which "lasts". "Nothing is saved" as in somehow nothingness is also a state from which everything springs. When the computer is switched off, that can be viewed as nothingness from within, but the machine is still sitting there.
"Nothing lasts. Nothing is saved..." yes, not even this imaginary thing called a soul. The freedom to be nothing..or something, is immanent and transcendent.
The soul is only imaginary to the most recent scientism culture, not to all previous ones.
@@moonwatch7963 The Buddhists have been around for a while and they don't believe in a soul,mainly because it is imaginary just like all gods.
@@surfinmuso37 The Tibetian (Buddhist) Book of the Dead completely denies that untruth you tell. Of course you have a soul, nothing would mean anything otherwise, and nobody would bother being a Buddhist would they if their actions meant nothing after this life.
@@moonwatch7963 the cosmic joke. Trust me. Youre gonna laugh a lot more than you think (:
The soul is immortal
Would be real sweet if a 12 minute video didn't have 8 ads, Jesus Christ youtube
All roads lead to 'God' and However it/he/she will manifest to you. The story of truth is unhideable and to each individual will be proven unto themselves.
Poet.
That image is beautiful. Who is it by?
800 Megaflops is laughable today. The currently fastest supercomputer can do 200 petaflops. That's 250 million times faster. Even the computer you're watching this video on is up to 100,000 times faster. Even an old iphone 5S is 100 times faster than that. The speed at which computing power increases never ceases to amaze me.
Axiomatic75 ahem! IPhone 5S does not have an FPP. It’s is preposterous to suggest that it could do anything close to 80Gfps. I’m sure you are wrong.
Why are we so obsessed with speed? Seems like distraction, when the real focus should be on who is using them(corporations/government) and for what?
Every day our rights are being undermined by corporate sponsored governments, while we are all distracted by our wonderful toys and faster porn downloads.
@@surfinmuso37 we don't have rights in 'their' world. Awakening is needed to desolve it.
It shouldn't amaze you, it's just the usual inevitable of technology - of course for as long as all this is here, it is going to get faster and have more resources. It's the same R&D over and over again as far as MO goes.
Where can I find artwork such as this ?
Thanks
Hey, can you point me in the direction of where the original audio of terence came from please? I want to use a chunk of it for a presentation, but it's the exact bit where the music comes in, and I'd need it without. Thanks.
Does he have an accent? He has very unique mannerisms.
V1Gibby accent of the mushroom 🍄😂
Hes just a geek. In a good way.
Terrence McKenna: If Mr. Rogers did DMT.
I wish Terrence was still here to see the AI revolution that’s currently taking place in our modern era.
Does anyone know really what he's talking about when he talks about mathematics and computers? I mean what is he really saying? Is there any way we can use computer ourselves in that way?
Any computer algebra system.
I once created an artwork of the vagina dentata for an MA course. The (male) professor refused to mark it, because it was "too female.
I reckon he'd give Ahab a run for his money.
All I wish... I could understand more and more what he has to say.
Does impermanence imply permanence? Is Love the ultimate permanence? These questions come to my mind after watching this, thanks for the upload
Awesome 🙏
Beautiful!! So, love is spirit, and spirit is permanent. Permanence is not static but rather an infinite flow like a fibonacci sequence. So love is the infinite creative flow that we anticipate from our impermanent biological incarnation of spirit.
There would be no impermanence without the existence of something to be impermanent.
Therefore, wherever any of the individual manifestations of the whole of reality decays, it is replaced by something else.
Nothing goes on except the going on of things not going on.
The wheel of samsara. The problem of identification with the temporal versus That which lies beneath. The great sages all urged identification with That. Thou are That. Noise cannot be beheld unless against a vast silence.
Jeeze, he's a fucken genius
10:18
Yep. Modern man wants evidence in a form that conforms to his small mind and ignorant expectations. The approach of finding what we don't know and the spaces in between seem to be filled with a treasure of realization. The Drukama tradition has been teaching realization and has a step by step curriculum check it out. Be well all!
Is there a place where I can download all of these talks at once? I have paranoia that it may be censored and I would love to have some personal copies.
pirate bay, 13gb McKenna archive
@@widdershins3476 Pirate Bay is back up? What is the follows the dot in the url? se? tv? or what?
@@HerbQuest it's .org methinks
Oh Terrance, the notion that things should have a purpose is the very Technic mindset that led to the denial of Telos. It would be better to say that only machines have a purpose outside of their own existence, living things are their own purpose.
As a flow-through to the permanence of Spirit in self and everythingk☯️🎶🤘👌🏼
cope
✌😎
Nobody's gonna believe this.... But I was led back to Terrence by way of Dana Carvey's George Bush impressions.
Fucking brilliant
I am the disorder, in orderly form, of course ;)
Except for the incipid music creeping in towards the end, McKenna's genius shines through as usual.
These old ass Desktops he brags about their speed and their specs like it's a God. I have to laugh because I had a commodore 64 , and a Kaypro II, and that shit could put you on a bummer ,man. It was a real drag, just lame 'vis a vis' the stuff of today. I learned 'vis a vis' from Terence.
Now those are popular for retro reasons. There's a lot of design elements to old machines and software that has not been kept to, resulting in less than what could be. For example the lack of loading times for old operating systems - used to be that you switch it on and it's there, in VROM. Same goes for consoles & games.
Everything in the universe is either matter or energy. Matter and energy are two different forms of the same thing, where 'matter' retains its shape but loses movement (the opposite of what happens when you apply heat to a solid), while "energy" has no set shape nor does it retain any form - it is simply there to push things around. This can be observed through rather simple experiments, such as heating up ice-cubes placed in glasses with water until they turn into gas (water vapor) that will eventually disappear from our world.
We could also look at the 'big bang' theory, which hypothesizes that everything in this universe was once compressed into an extremely small point of matter and energy. In other words, we're exploring the same thing as I suggested above - only to a much smaller degree.
In both cases, we can see that the universe is a constant process of change, where everything in it keeps changing into something else. This is why scientists refer to matter and energy as 'constants' - they are always there as part of our world; however, their form changes over time.
In addition, there are many other things that change as well. For example, the world around us is constantly changing in terms of population and demographics (the number of inhabitants in an area). This means that 'spirit', which refers to a sense of belongingness or togetherness among people with shared beliefs, ideas and values - is also subject to changes.
When it comes to the relationship between humans and 'spirit', we can also see that this is not static. We ourselves change, as do our values and beliefs. This means that the level of togetherness among us (and therefore, what constitutes 'spirit') changes too.
So, we can see why the relationship between humans and 'spirit' is not a constant. It changes constantly.
Random walk in this space
Eating 2.2 grams rn
How did it go
Quitting weed finally. And reading be here now made me cry.
Ethan Johnson when I first heard Terence interview Ram Dass I had goose bumps. Incredible be-ings
Right! Galindoi here✌
@@e.b.pernett8463 indeed!
You just had to add the music in the second half… come on man. Let us musicians choose our own music when we listen to McKenna please. If he didnt choose to speak over this you shouldn’t make him do so.
I love this channel and McKenna, but animals do lie, cheat, and emote complex behavior. The footage of penguins making nests and stealing stones from each other is so revealing in this way. We didn’t have so much video access back then though.
He’s missing a lot I don’t believe in divine purpose. I don’t think anything matters. And I don’t believe those feeling and actions are unique to humans. I think I dog can deceive and fell like shit too. Love Terrance tho. God isn’t real tho