The weird, clickbaity titles make me less likely to watch your videos. It gives the impression you're going to be dishonest before I've even clicked through.
It's the same vibe as a diner thats had the same help wanted poster in the window for 18 months. The food might be great, you might know that the food is great, but you still get skeeved out walking through the door.
It reminds me of Cordelia's speech in Buffy, "Hey, you think I'm never lonely because I'm so cute and popular? I can be surrounded by people and be completely alone. It's not like any of them really know me." Also reminds me of Britney Spears, and I imagine this movie would be TOO MUCH for her
IM SO GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE "this is gonna ruin the tour..." QUOTE because thats also the only thing i could think about after the "fuck the tour" scene 😭😭
I think that the best way to debunk the "they're way too similar" complaint is looking at Rose and Skye and seeing how they're basically polar opposites of each other: - Skye is an extremely popular singer, Rose is an average social worker - Skye dresses is vibrant colors with lots of sequins exposing lots of skin, Rose is dressed in dull colors with long sweaters and trousers - Skye is constantly surrounded by people which leads her to take drugs from the pressure and guilt, Rose is emotionally isolated from trauma to the point of cutting ties with her small support system - Skye's starting event was cause of her own addiction and selfishness, Rose's starting event was her mother's illness which was beyond her control - Also the irony of their deaths: Skye died in front of a whole crowd when she was at her loneliest, Rose was forced to die in front of the one and only person who cared about her well-being
@@bananatiergod I agree that there's a lot of contrasting elements, but the problem is the plot itself. We know from the first movie that after she sees her drug dealer bash his face in with a weight, anything creepy or unusual is just a hallucination. And the complete lack of stakes results in zero tension during the freaky scenes. Since the hallucination scenes are robbed of tension, we're left to focus on Skye's life spiraling downwards, which is precisely what happens in the first movie except with a different group of peers/family. It's boring and repetitive: they think they're going crazy, they feel like no one understands them, and they both get tricked by the demon into thinking they won. Yes, there's elements that are different, but differing character backgrounds do not significantly alter the feel of the movie. The movement of the plot is precisely the same. If they had stuck with the Morris betrayal ending, including the mom's death, that would have been a much better finish.
@@herroyung857 i agree, i just watched it and it does feel a bit like the first again, just ecalated, but i think the scares work more to tricking you into thinking its real or its fake. i think the 1st movie was a 5 ish, while this ones a 6 or 6.5
@@mariodelrio1694 Honestly, I really liked the first movie and I'd give it an 8. Awesome allegory and metaphors for when you rewatch, effective tension building, jumpscares that are purposeful and serve the entity's goal of driving the host insane. If they had not let Joel inside and allowed Rose to self immolate via her own volition before the entity got to her and before Joel got there, that would have bumped it up to a 9. But a repetition of this simply doesn't work because we know how the demon operates, and that causes any tension in the hallucination scenes to fizz away like a popped balloon. Any viewer who isn't casual will not be impressed by the repetition of the same plot with different characters. I'd give the new film a 4.5 at best, especially with its ending.
I wonder whether the premise is inspired by the idea of suicide contagion, where people who know someone who committed suicide are significantly more likely to commit suicide, which fits into the idea of passed on trauma
imo its heavily themed around depression and cultural denial of depressions very serious side affects - the trauma passsed causes the victim to experience a shift in themselves, their perceptions, their experiences shrouded by this "unknown" grief and turmoil, something that one can "fight" but still trick you into thinking youre healed. and then her communities willingness to focus on how they are personally impacted by the mental and health descent of the actual victim vs sharing empathy and compassion as a means to aid in recovery of the person depressed: this can be connected to how the victims ultimately meet their demise upon isolation in realtion to how others treat them as a response to their experiences that others cannot see or understand. a lot of themes can be made
@@breathoffreshair7795 Yeah the interesting part is that Parker Finn could go out and say tomorrow "you know what, there is actually no smile demon" and I dont think it would change much. The demon does what what most of us do anyway that get caught in the depressive spiral, it cuts off our only sources of companionship and humanity. And when there is nothing left, the inevitable happens.
@@lockekappa500 this, the whole film i felt like there was such an obvious and heavy dialogue about mental health, to the point that i dont even believe the creature is actually real in the film- rather it is an embodiment of the turmoil that each person is experiencing. even the name "smile" touches on the forced performative behaviors that mentally diseased or disordersd individuals often have to do because of our heavy normative society, and it is when they werent smiling that they continued to be separated from their connections.
That's actually my one complaint with the films. Because that's very clearly what they're going for but it kinda leads to the same problem as 'The Medium' where the endings unintentionally send the message that trauma can't be overcome and the only way out is death.
Fun Fact: Lewis Fregoli is a reference to Fregoli syndrome - a delusion that multiple strangers around you are actually the same person in disguise. So basically what happened in this movie. Something I learned from watching your video on Anomalisa.
@@TalentCaldwell I was playing into the Amandela Effect joke. It was Anomalisa I was referring to, which is definitely a movie I think she and this audience would enjoy.
@@philopharynx7910 Well I was also playing in on you playing in on the Amandella Effect. She’s never actually covered Melancholia either. 😁. It’s why I ended with j/k.
I really liked how unapologetically brutal both movies are and the way they depict how traumatizing that is for the main characters, especially because nobody else can see it and thinks they’re just losing their minds. That feeling of being trapped and isolated even when you have people around in you is terrifying. If they do another, I hope it’s a prequel or spin off and not a direct sequel. If the entity can infect tens of thousands of people at once, like it’s implied to at the end of the 2nd movie, it’s already won. It already seemed invincible, but now there’s definitely no way to stop it.
A sequel would be amazing bc now the smile entity has reached pandemic Levels it would be supercool to see tons of people going crazy and dying while the world watches . What if they broadcasted a death does is read via screens as well ?? It has so much potential
It wasn’t fully invincible bc of the one dude on the first who beat it !! The dude at the beginning of smile 2 was also close to getting rid of it had the plan not gone sideways like it did lol
@@Joselyn.jenellehe had to kill some1 to get rid of it and it wasn’t defeated just given to another person. And that 2nd plan would no longer work, as you’d have to do that to a stadium of 100,000 ppl which yeah…..you see how that’d be dumb. So atp if it DID affect every1 in that stadium, it’s over lmao, it won. They could also go the route of it affected the most traumatized person in the arena but after the line “I’ve been waiting for you for so long” that the entity said in the freezer, I think it did want to attempt to affect thousands @ once and it succeeded.
i watched Smile 2 in a nearly empty theater by myself and i swear i almost passed out from fear. i hadn't seen the first one, so i didn't know what to expect, but boy it was more than i bargained for. i had to get up, shakily, to use the bathroom halfway through the movie, because i started to feel my body going numb from how hard my heart was pounding, and i felt like i could never get enough air in my lungs...that was the first time i'd felt a reaction that intense from a horror movie in my life
@@yuh_19you can usually google if the first movie is needed to understand the second one, and the second smile movie is easily understood without the first. They’re all new characters after all
I watched it on my phone and I would hold my phone away from me and sideways and wait for the jump scare to hit and then rewind it's the only way I can handle these movies. Best soundtracks ever.
Just want to clarify as a prop master (not on this movie but others), that the Voss water was definitely not an accident or anything, even if they didn't sponsor the movie. If we want to be safe using branded products, there are companies whose job it is to provide film/tv sets with branded products that are pre-approved for screen use. I'm guessing Voss has a deal with one of those companies and the prop master was like "hey product placement company, what's a fancy water bottle brand I can use?" and bam, Voss water everywhere. Anyway. That's my ridiculous nitpick. Continue.
100% agree. There's simply no way Voss was unintentionally chosen, especially considering how often and prominently it appeared, plus almost always showcasing the label. I very much doubt that any branded product so conspicuously featured in film/TV doesn't involve someone benefiting from it in some way.
I love the imagery of the butterfly leotard for the final moment. The outfit she specifically didn't want to wear because of her surgery scar and the demon uses it to emerge from her body like a chrysalis, and i think it got bigger than the last time we saw its true form in the first movie. Another theme I feel at play is loss of autonomy, the choices ripped from her hands as her team insist they know what's best for her and her career. The demon messes with her by giving her the fantasy of control. By presenting her defying her mom, her team, and having the unwavering support of a former friend just to rip that all away.
Dude I was SO pleased with smile 2. Like it added nothing to the first one but it cranked it up to 11 and it worked so well for me. And that opening scene! I was genuinely freaking out at the theater, that one take was perfect. The most impressive one I’ve seen
Can you spoil the opening scene for me? I can't handle scary faces or gore, but I'm going with my sister soon and i plan to be under a jacket the whole time so i can listen to the movie instead. Is there face gore in the opening scene? (I know the first movie had face gore and the scary monster, which is why I'm prepared to not watch this one lol)
I honestly had thought Morris was tricking her into the freezer to let her die alone with no witnesses bc there was no quick fix but he was desperate to end the curse and I was kind of disappointed he was entirely made up it felt too convenient and weird. BUT I am glad we ended with her on stage bc that felt like the most natural way to end it and up the stakes
morris wasn't completely made up, he was real initially but after skye rejected him and went home, where she got an arm forced into her mouth, thats when everything was an hallucination and the demon had full control
The Amandela is so real I was so convinced and so clearly remembered her talking about the marketing and the cat scene that I actually went back through my browser history to try and find which video I must be mis-remembering but COULDN'T FIND IT this is HAUNTING me.
this is 100% me. What did I watch. I know I never watched the the first movie but watched a review video like this and I could have sworn it was Amanda
@@nyixxs Right there with you with "know I never watched the movie" because SAME because I am a WIMP at horror movies but need to know what happened and I DID already know the plot of Smile before watching this video, so, like, WHERE DID I LEARN THAT? Right now my best guess is Ruined did it and my brain is merging them and Amanda as "primo sources for finding out what happened in that one horror movie" but that still doesn't feel RIGHT.
@@AmandaTheJedi And I’m one of them. I don’t understand what’s happening. When I saw you posted this video I thought “oh she made another Smile video, didn’t know there was a sequel.” I was so certain. 😰
I didn't feel that this movie was longer than it needed to be. It had several lingering shots that let the reality of the situation really settle in with the viewers and never shied away from uncomfortable scenarios. Both movies really capture what panic and hallucinations genuinely feel like and never down-plays them. A couple months before my SO passed away, she was suffering from hallucinations, where she was not only seeing things that weren't there, but talking to people who weren't there. It had become a horrific reality that we both experienced, and these movies do not take the experiences lightly and I appreciate that.
Imagine if Smile 3 will be a post-apocalypse movie where almost everyone died from this demons spreading and we will be following the last survivors that are being hunted down in some way by the demon. That would be a wild continuation.
I think this is where the story would go as well,but I'm worried about it being good. We've had so many apocalypse variations and this movie's effect relies so much on paranoia and doubt. If everyone has it, then I really doubt it could be as good of a horror movie as the previous 2. It would either turn into a more action oriented thing or something like BirdBox. It might be best to leave it at two,with the ending and implications horrifying enough
Watched this last night with some friends and my girlfriend, and I loved it. I thought it was a huge improvement on the first one, which I was already a fan of, and was a very effective horror piece. My girlfriend and one of my friends both were absolutely devastated by it. My girlfriend cried after one of the jumpscares, and my friend said there were multiple times where he thought about leaving our theater for a moment to take a breather. The movie was basically full-throttle from the moment Skye inherited the curse, and afterwards, everyone I watched it with was physically shaken up to a degree that I had never seen before. Funny enough, the most unsettling part about my experience seeing this movie, was seeing how physically it affected the people I saw it with. Anyways, great movie, might go see it again. :)
So actually knowing mental health stuff, the bit in smile 2 where the pop star woman thinks and feels as if she broke her leg is accurate. You can actually manifest very real pain with mentally affected emotion, just not breaking bones, obviously.
Parker Finn confirmed that Voss had no paid deal/sponsorship with the film. He wanted to make the audience uncomfortable by using the idea of Skye chugging water as mechanism.
One thing that blew my mind was after the backup dancer scene and the entity takes over, her mom tells her she’s completely dehydrated. What is really going on becomes harder and harder to track
It’s just a really good water to use as a prop. Solid build, large volume, and to me I perfectly understood it as a coping mechanism. The more we saw her supposedly chug water, the more we’re supposed to feel like she’s desperately grasping at control or to feel like she’s in control.
@@one_for_one Never seen that channel before! Might have been a different one, but I tend to stick with Amanda the Jedi since I trust her opinion on movies the most! Who knows!
Yea I remembered it and sensing this I was so excited because I remember loving her review of the one before and now I find out that never happened? Maybe she forgot and it got deleted
my absolute favorite part of all this is the mandela effect with not one but two whole movies. people connected to the multiverse here and it was just for your videos
Smile really got under my skin. The way it's shot, the acting, just the plot itself, I felt like I was going crazy too. Poor Rose! I wasn't expecting to like the movie so much or for it to creep me out like it did. The sequel was good but I was prepared for it this time lol
I loved the music and choreography moments because they made her feel like a pop star that I would want to see! They barely dragged on and we’re important in demonstrating her slow descend into madness
This is why I'm happily very stupid. I had no idea if you did or didn't have a video on Smile, but since you make good videos, I'm happy to hear what you thought of either.
Amanda you don’t understand I distinctly remember you making a smile video when it came out and thinking “wow I could not watch this movie it would mess me up good thing Amanda’s here to tell me about it!” SAME WITH TRUTH OR DARE I remember the thumbnail for that video so vividly I could draw it this is so weird lol
@@AmandaTheJediWhat’s even crazier is that I thought that was the video that got me to subscribe to you. Now I have no idea how I even came across your channel. Edit. I must have been the WISH UPON video.
Speaking of this effect I could have sworn you covered the movie Ready or Not. Which, now that I see you haven't, I am requesting. Lol. I just have a weird fondness for this film.
Ahahaha thanks I hate it. I'm glad you came over to tell us about it because I would be a wreck if I ever watched these myself. I'm spooked just from the clips you shared and your description of what happens. Apparently this is the most effective type of horror for me.
Man i watched the first movie when i was deeply mentally unwell. It fucked me up. Literally i thought there was something in my house for 6 months, waiting around the corner to kill me. And every time i'd pass the corner, i just thought it moved to the next one, waiting for me. It was a nightmare everywhere i went. I'm not gonna watch the 2nd movie cuz i don't want to reopen that trauma, but bro... don't watch the movie if you can't handle it (my friends forced me to watch it together with them, i couldn't say no. I used to like horror movies so i thought it would be okay. I was not okay 😭😭😭)
Between your channel, Spookyastronauts, and PossessedbyHorror, I just realized that most of my TH-cam media commentary comes from 3 women with varying shades of red hair. I feel like I confuse who covered which movies because of this. lol. Love to hear everyone’s take on this movie especially!
I genuinely think that's the reason why everyone thinks she has covered movies that she hasn't. I'm subbed to all three of them and I just realized I can't tell who covered which movies 😂
Am I the only one who does not live with the illusion that you made a review on the first smile? 🤣 ngl legit started to think that I missed something when so many people talked about it.
@@AmandaTheJedi Personally I'm just so confused about whose video it was I watched, since it wasn't yours. Can't even find the video in my browser history, and that thing hasn't been cleared out in ages. I know the whole plot of the movie and I've definitely never seen it. Crazy that it wasn't yours.
I feel like showing it can make you feel physical pain has made it a million times scarier purely because no matter mentally strong you are physical torture will fuck you over.
I don’t know how to feel about two movies focused on ‘mental health’ end with the MC ending their life in a horrific way😭maybe I need to rewatch smile but idk
I think it’s a LOT more than just two. I feel like most movies I’ve seen that either allegorically or figuratively deal with mental health end with the main character ending their life (or in the case of FIGHT CLUB, attempting to). There’s THE BUTTERFLY EFFECT (Directors Cut), SHUTTER ISLAND, JACOB’S LADDER, and some others I can’t recall the name of at the moment.
Personally, I dont think it’s supposed to be a real parallel to mental health but a good commentary on a it. The monster is fairly explicit and the driving supernatural force behind it. Both movies have a bad ending because both characters were failed in some way either by their own paranoia and/or by the immense pressure placed on them to be “back to normal” when what they needed was people who care enough to help them in the way they needed it.
The sound design of both movies were beyond amazing. The way the score manipulates Skye's voice. And the ending credits! It was like the demon was mocking Skye by using her cry and turning it into a laugh
Honestly I legitimately thought it was going to be revealed that the water was being drugged by her mother. It really seemed to be a major focal point.
I clicked on this video FULLY remembering you talking about the first one, like “Oh yeah I remember her talking about that opening scene,” aaaaannndd apparently not!
I wonder if they are maybe confusing you with Chelsea Rebecca from Dead Meat. There’s the slightest, slightest of resemblances and you do cover a lot of horror which is what Dead Meat just is. They’ve covered both of those movies and will also talk about new horror movies like you do but I am not sure.
I’m sure that’s what’s happening because I definitely thought Amanda covered both Smile and Truth or Dare, and Dead Meat is the only other channel I watch that covers horror movies. I definitely watched videos about those two movies, and if it wasn’t Amanda it must have been Dead Meat.
The car crash scene is the most traumatic in my opinion coz we never usually see when it happens right after and the victims are still in this dreadful pain realizing how messed up it is mostly when you see the people next to you in the car it that’s a sight you will see forever 😢
I feel like the third movie should be how the entity entered the first person. Like it needs a traumatic event to transfer from one person to the next so how did it get into a person in the first place. Was it an actual physical think that entered a persons mind after they witness a traumatic death and just kept jumping from mind to mind?
Imo, the only real issue with the second Smile movie is that the "scares" felt as if they were following the first beat-for-beat. Which, I understand if the demon found a pattern to use that works, go off fiend queen, but it made it a little predictable in that aspect for me. ie. the audio scare in the first movie vs the video scare in the second, the therapist calling when she's there vs the best friend calling. Things like that. Additionally, it felt that they relied on sudden scares more than the first, but that could be recency bias.
Are we all living in the Berenstein universe, because I swear Amanda's Smile video was one of the first videos I watched from her??! I even remember her talking about the short film that preceded it
@@AmandaTheJedi I assume they meant the first Smile. Since thats where the ceramic vase is used. The mirror is used in the hospital scene in Smile 2. (kind of...but not really...sort of) lol
As someone with trichotillomania thank you for educating about it in this context instead being like “gross! Crazy” one of many reasons I will always return to your channel. I’ve never felt less ashamed about this condition just watching someone casually educate about it. I’m serious. Thank you.
definitely something I can't watch myself (having experienced psychosis before, I avoid movies/shows that mess with reality like this), so thank you for covering it! it sounds cool, I'm glad I got to watch it second-hand
One thing I really appreciate about the Gemma twist in smile 2 is that at one point you see skye check her phone and can see that Gemma hasn't replied at all, even after the first night she seemingly stayed with Skye.
This review got me itching to watch both movies again. The sound design and soundtrack in Smile 2 is hypnotic. Sidebar: I appreciate you don't overdo the focus on metaphors, this is an awesome review
The only reason I wish Smile 2 was shorter was because I watched it before work & was 15mins late. But while I was in the theater I feel like it went by rather quickly. Never felt lag or boredom. Honestly if Your Monster & Conclave weren’t coming out this weekend I’d be going to see it again.
I hadn’t seen Smile until recently, but I swear I knew the plot because of a video you did about Smile… This is honestly more horrifying and creepy to me than the films themselves
I watched your Smile video and loved it! You covering the final scenes and discussing the themes is what made me remember what the movie was in the first place. So like... Im pretty sure you did a whole video about it
I've been waiting for you to do a video on Smile. I never saw it, as I have schizoaffective disorder and movies like this can sometimes trigger intrusive thoughts, etc. But I love horror, and appreciated the thorough run-through of both. I wish I could see them, as the themes really resonate with me, but its too risky. So thanks Amanda! 😁 You're the best.
No shot you never did a video about the first one? I was convinced you did! Talk about mental health and all? Who did I watch talk about it then? You are my go-to for movies!
I feel there’s so much potential for the 3rd movie. Now that the parasite/ smile demon has spread to over thousands, it can explore what it would be like to have a CHILD having this parasite percifically he one that we saw get her poster signed at the meet and greet scene. If the host were to be a child, it could explore the fact that the parents/ guardians would think the child has and hyper imagination or just a lil imaginary friend. It’s more likely they would reach out for help, and even MORE likely the demon just get brushed off. It a cool concept I would LOVE to see them explore in smile 3
Obviously they can tweak the narrative any way they want but I don't think they will go the route of the demon possessing more than 1 person at a time. We will see though.
I understand the appeal of this movie, but it doe bother me that the whole thing is "This is trauma, and it's gonna spread and you're gonna kill yourself and there is no hope"
@xinf3ctdx I mean there's objectively a middle ground, which is what most people experiencing mental health struggles deal with, and I think that's what OPs point is. It'd be one thing if more movies centered on mental health DID that and didn't end with the MC dying/killing themselves in an absolutely horrific way, but most don't. Most of them only have their greater point be "lifes a bitch". Nothing wrong with having a movie like that, but when most of the mental illness movies are like that it starts to both get old and paint a very depressing pattern. Mental health struggles do not equal inevitability of death or suicide.
i think my personal issue is that in the first one it seemed like they made an attempt at bringing attention to those things and this one just feels like a cheap cash grab.
@@xinf3ctdx it's not about not being roses and butterflies, I understand that "life is hard". It is that the movie presents it as an inevitability. If the movie wants to make a metaphor out of mental illnesses, then I am allowed to analyse it under that lens and say "if your monster (trauma) can't be defeated except by death, then you accidentally claim that the only escape for trauma is death". I don't think the authors are horrible people, but it sucks that I even need to hold people's hands and say "do not worry, you're not a bad person" for liking this movie. I could not care less if you like this movie or not. But if they wanted to do an exploration of trauma, I believe there is some level of failure on making it an inescapable monster that will not be defeated by anything except death.
Taken from other reply. The way I see it is that it shows VERY specific negative and toxic behaviors that the protagonist does that keep her from recovering from said illness and trauma. It's the other non-glamorized side of the coin. I think its just as dangerous to say that we can cut off all ties from family and friends and meet our demons in a house and defeat them. Remember, cautionary tales that end poorly can be just as useful to us as individuals to course correct our behavior and learn.
Girl, I'm on the Amandella effect, I could swear I saw your video about the 1st film, I even thought "Oh, she re-edited it for this one". I don't remember at all any other channel that would've covered it and yet here we are... What a mind mess!
I totally forgot that in the first Smile movie, Joel discovered that all the infected people committed suicide within a week. The exception was Robert Talley, who instead murdered someone, and the key witness to the murder continued the suicide chain. At the beginning of Smile 2, Joel has been infected for six days, time is running out and he finally decides to try Robert Talley’s strategy. He attempts to kill one of the drug dealers in front of the other, passing the curse on to someone who deserves the bad Karma. Instead the brothers both end up dying in a shootout with Joel, and because Lewis Fregoli (Lukas Gage) witnessed their deaths, it was passed on to him.
My husband and I went to watch Smile 2 last weekend and when we got home I went to see if you had reviewed it yet as I like listening to your opinions. Obviously you hadn't uploaded it yet so I decided I'd rewatch your Smile video. Then I realized that didn't exist, and was really confused as to why I very distinctly remember you making a video. I chalked it up to being crazy, but now I'm convinced we've converged timelines lmao
This is actually so crazed bc I SWEAR TO GOD I HEARD your voice and cadence IN MY HEAD saying "truth or dareee" in the way only you can IM GOING NUTS!!
I'm not typically a horror movie goer, as with my own mental health struggles they can make me a bit too uncomfortable and all of that. However, while on a very, very long plane ride I saw someone watching smile in front of me. I was aware of the marketing for the movie, and for some reason I decided to give it a go against my usual tendencies in film selection. To my surprise, I enjoyed it quite a bit and I thought that the ending was really unique! I was totally surprised when Rose did not survive, as like you said in your review you are typically always expecting them to do so or find a way to battle whatever is happening. As a result, when seeing they were making a sequel earlier this year and that THE Naomi Scott was in it (huge fan since Lemonade Mouth), I had to watch it in theatres. I brought my boyfriend along and it's safe to say that I will never watch a horror movie in a theatre again. I do agree that the movie felt a bit long at times, but the actual experience was very effective, impactful, and left me audibly screaming at least once! As others have pointed out, it really did take everything from the first movie and crank it to an 11. I was, however, disappointed with the ending. As soon as the movie's first trailer/premise was announced, everyone was theorizing that it would end exactly how it did - the singer would die on stage and pass it to a lot of people. Since the first movie was sort of a subverting of expectations/common tropes, and with the introduction of Morris, I was actually hoping we would get a "good" ending this time. I feel like Morris and the alternative method could have been a more interesting way to explore the abilities or lack thereof of the creature and the lore surrounding it - whereas in the ending we got it just kind of reinforces what we already know rather than introducing something new. I don't necessarily think she should've been able to walk away scot-free (pun intended), but it just felt predictable to have it end like it did where I was wanting them to do something else.
Not directly related to the topic, but I didn't know that a sequel was being made of "It Follows". Now I am worried they're going to sully my memory of an excellent horror movie. "It Follows" messed with me in a way that few other spoopy movies have.
I saw this movie in theatres with my sister and friends, it was SOOOO good!! I didn’t watch the first one but heard people talk about it. My sisters bought my ticket because they liked the first one. I love the horror genre but I get startled easily like an excited puppy 😅 I remember 2 specific moments when I screamed so loudly it made everyone in the theatre laugh and I just wanted melt into my seat because my friend kept exposing me when my sisters were whispering “omg who was that? They were close by” 😭😂 Loved the theme and Naomi Scott did an AMAZING job in this role!! I need her to get more good scripts so I can love her more ❤❤
Ok I had the Amandella Effect for a bit scrolling through your channel desperately looking for your first smile video but now I remember I watched “The Brutality of Smile” video and I think you two have similar commentating styles or something that draws my brain between your two. Maybe it’s because I only watch the two for horror explanations because I’m too much of a wimp to watch them myself 😅
What bugs me about both the first and this is the movie is all about dealing with mental health and in the first film she confronts her trauma and seemingly is able to overcome it but nope. It feels really cruel to make a movie about a suicide demon and the outcome is "even if you face it, you'll still die." I admit, in this one she tries to take an easy way out and maybe you can argue because of that she's not able to defeat it...but Rose didn't deserve that ending. Otherwise it works. But the endings are just cruel. And I have no interest in a third movie about a bunch of high schoolers killing themselves.
At 23:06 we have to take in the fact that she is a pop star that just killed someone. Then, moments later the dude was about to comeback. I dont believe she thought she had time to grief and mourn because as some say the world keeps spinning and that would have further trapped skye wit the demon,
I like that the first movie heavily implies that even if you find a way to get rid of it the demon will eventually come back to start a new chain with a different victim
Issue with horror movie sequels. Once you know how the “demon, monster, villain “ works it loses its horror. The reason the first one works so well because we don’t know what it is, why, or not see plot twists coming. This movie to me was just funny, I laughed more than anything. I counted how many Voss bottles came up, telling my friend “I bet you she’s gonna get another voss about now”
I remember seeing the thumbnail then going oh I'm actually gonna watch this one so no spoilers. Wait is there another youtuber that vaguely looks like Amanda and watched it could that be what's going on
What's interesting is that Morris is the monster, the bar dialogue is the monster explaining what it is, what it does and even explaining the chain it works within. Because it knows, even of you know, your still doomed.
I HELPED DESIGN A JENNIFER'S BODY SHIRT WITH SUPER YAKI! Links in bio!
"Keep an eye out for you, stingray"
"Yeah,
see ya"
Pun intended?
Not the eye pun 😂
The weird, clickbaity titles make me less likely to watch your videos. It gives the impression you're going to be dishonest before I've even clicked through.
It's the same vibe as a diner thats had the same help wanted poster in the window for 18 months. The food might be great, you might know that the food is great, but you still get skeeved out walking through the door.
smile 1 plays on the feeling of always alone. smile 2 plays on someone who is never alone.
It reminds me of Cordelia's speech in Buffy,
"Hey, you think I'm never lonely because I'm so cute and popular? I can be surrounded by people and be completely alone. It's not like any of them really know me."
Also reminds me of Britney Spears, and I imagine this movie would be TOO MUCH for her
@FiercelyGold I'm wondering if they were mimicking Popstar break downs in the 2nd film. It had that feeling
Buffy mention!
wow. good catch. interesting
im back to loving this film. thank you for this. yes.
I haven’t seen Smile, and I swear to you that everything I know about Smile I learned from the Smile video that you’re telling me you never made.
This is me fr
Same
SAME, who made the actual Smile video is what I wanna know!!
@@ic2704 I just searched my TH-cam history and still can’t find it and am starting to suspect an Amanda the Jedi Mind Trick
@@ic2704Foundflix has a Smile video, maybe it was his?
LMFAO, me sitting here in the intro like "yeah they're just thinking of her truth or dare video... wait WHAT"
😂
I don't watch any other reaction cahnnels...so I'm a bit spooked
Same!! Sitting here so confused
BRUHHHHHHHHHHH SAME. this is wild
I was the SAME! 😂
IM SO GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE "this is gonna ruin the tour..." QUOTE because thats also the only thing i could think about after the "fuck the tour" scene 😭😭
Same!
CHARLiE PFP!!!!!
OHMYGOD SO TRUE
I turned to my friend and we quoted it 😭
I know me and my friend couldn't help quoting the whole thing out loud at the Alamo Drafthouse. Luckily no one narced on us!
I think that the best way to debunk the "they're way too similar" complaint is looking at Rose and Skye and seeing how they're basically polar opposites of each other:
- Skye is an extremely popular singer, Rose is an average social worker
- Skye dresses is vibrant colors with lots of sequins exposing lots of skin, Rose is dressed in dull colors with long sweaters and trousers
- Skye is constantly surrounded by people which leads her to take drugs from the pressure and guilt, Rose is emotionally isolated from trauma to the point of cutting ties with her small support system
- Skye's starting event was cause of her own addiction and selfishness, Rose's starting event was her mother's illness which was beyond her control
- Also the irony of their deaths: Skye died in front of a whole crowd when she was at her loneliest, Rose was forced to die in front of the one and only person who cared about her well-being
I had no idea people were saying they were similar
@@AmandaTheJedi I've seen a few of them compare how the plot moved exactly the same way in both movies. I have no idea why tho
@@bananatiergod I agree that there's a lot of contrasting elements, but the problem is the plot itself. We know from the first movie that after she sees her drug dealer bash his face in with a weight, anything creepy or unusual is just a hallucination. And the complete lack of stakes results in zero tension during the freaky scenes. Since the hallucination scenes are robbed of tension, we're left to focus on Skye's life spiraling downwards, which is precisely what happens in the first movie except with a different group of peers/family. It's boring and repetitive: they think they're going crazy, they feel like no one understands them, and they both get tricked by the demon into thinking they won. Yes, there's elements that are different, but differing character backgrounds do not significantly alter the feel of the movie. The movement of the plot is precisely the same. If they had stuck with the Morris betrayal ending, including the mom's death, that would have been a much better finish.
@@herroyung857 i agree, i just watched it and it does feel a bit like the first again, just ecalated, but i think the scares work more to tricking you into thinking its real or its fake. i think the 1st movie was a 5 ish, while this ones a 6 or 6.5
@@mariodelrio1694 Honestly, I really liked the first movie and I'd give it an 8. Awesome allegory and metaphors for when you rewatch, effective tension building, jumpscares that are purposeful and serve the entity's goal of driving the host insane. If they had not let Joel inside and allowed Rose to self immolate via her own volition before the entity got to her and before Joel got there, that would have bumped it up to a 9.
But a repetition of this simply doesn't work because we know how the demon operates, and that causes any tension in the hallucination scenes to fizz away like a popped balloon. Any viewer who isn't casual will not be impressed by the repetition of the same plot with different characters. I'd give the new film a 4.5 at best, especially with its ending.
I wonder whether the premise is inspired by the idea of suicide contagion, where people who know someone who committed suicide are significantly more likely to commit suicide, which fits into the idea of passed on trauma
imo its heavily themed around depression and cultural denial of depressions very serious side affects - the trauma passsed causes the victim to experience a shift in themselves, their perceptions, their experiences shrouded by this "unknown" grief and turmoil, something that one can "fight" but still trick you into thinking youre healed. and then her communities willingness to focus on how they are personally impacted by the mental and health descent of the actual victim vs sharing empathy and compassion as a means to aid in recovery of the person depressed: this can be connected to how the victims ultimately meet their demise upon isolation in realtion to how others treat them as a response to their experiences that others cannot see or understand. a lot of themes can be made
@@breathoffreshair7795 Yeah the interesting part is that Parker Finn could go out and say tomorrow "you know what, there is actually no smile demon" and I dont think it would change much. The demon does what what most of us do anyway that get caught in the depressive spiral, it cuts off our only sources of companionship and humanity. And when there is nothing left, the inevitable happens.
Thank you for sharing that because I literally had the EXACT thought during the movie
@@lockekappa500 this, the whole film i felt like there was such an obvious and heavy dialogue about mental health, to the point that i dont even believe the creature is actually real in the film- rather it is an embodiment of the turmoil that each person is experiencing. even the name "smile" touches on the forced performative behaviors that mentally diseased or disordersd individuals often have to do because of our heavy normative society, and it is when they werent smiling that they continued to be separated from their connections.
That's actually my one complaint with the films. Because that's very clearly what they're going for but it kinda leads to the same problem as 'The Medium' where the endings unintentionally send the message that trauma can't be overcome and the only way out is death.
seeing naomi scott in this movie when my only previous experience watching her acting was Lemonade Mouth was such a fun contrast
She also plays princess jasmine in Aladdin! Insane
She was the pink ranger in Power Rangers(2017)
And I keep seeing Kyle Gallner so much more often after I first saw him years ago in Haunting of Connecticut
Fun Fact: Lewis Fregoli is a reference to Fregoli syndrome - a delusion that multiple strangers around you are actually the same person in disguise. So basically what happened in this movie. Something I learned from watching your video on Anomalisa.
yes it's so interesting!! that video was the reason why I subbed 🙂↕️
She didn’t actually do a video on Anomalisa, you’re thinking of the movie Melancholia. 😜 j/k
@@TalentCaldwell I was playing into the Amandela Effect joke. It was Anomalisa I was referring to, which is definitely a movie I think she and this audience would enjoy.
@@philopharynx7910 Well I was also playing in on you playing in on the Amandella Effect. She’s never actually covered Melancholia either. 😁. It’s why I ended with j/k.
This is a good bit AND a fun fact!
Alright but the "Amandella effect" is such an under-rated comment 😂 got a full laugh out of me
Same! I legit watch two movie reviewers [including Amanda] so if I remember a movie review but Amanda nor Ryan have reviewed; I get spooked.
It is too perfect!!
🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤
Much Love!!
Agreed. It's gold.
I love Amanda's face when she's not sure is this joke stupid or genius
My neighbors have gotta be sick of the barking laughs Amanda and a few other creators pull out of me at ungodly hours.
I really liked how unapologetically brutal both movies are and the way they depict how traumatizing that is for the main characters, especially because nobody else can see it and thinks they’re just losing their minds. That feeling of being trapped and isolated even when you have people around in you is terrifying.
If they do another, I hope it’s a prequel or spin off and not a direct sequel. If the entity can infect tens of thousands of people at once, like it’s implied to at the end of the 2nd movie, it’s already won. It already seemed invincible, but now there’s definitely no way to stop it.
A sequel would be amazing bc now the smile entity has reached pandemic Levels it would be supercool to see tons of people going crazy and dying while the world watches . What if they broadcasted a death does is read via screens as well ?? It has so much potential
It wasn’t fully invincible bc of the one dude on the first who beat it !! The dude at the beginning of smile 2 was also close to getting rid of it had the plan not gone sideways like it did lol
It's gonna feel too much like bird box or the happening, both films depicting a person killing themselves out of nowhere
@Lalana-619 i was thinking about the happening as well
@@Joselyn.jenellehe had to kill some1 to get rid of it and it wasn’t defeated just given to another person. And that 2nd plan would no longer work, as you’d have to do that to a stadium of 100,000 ppl which yeah…..you see how that’d be dumb. So atp if it DID affect every1 in that stadium, it’s over lmao, it won. They could also go the route of it affected the most traumatized person in the arena but after the line “I’ve been waiting for you for so long” that the entity said in the freezer, I think it did want to attempt to affect thousands @ once and it succeeded.
"i rarely come out for the boys and when i do they're not even there the whole time!" i feel that lmao
Men really do be restless 24/7
i watched Smile 2 in a nearly empty theater by myself and i swear i almost passed out from fear. i hadn't seen the first one, so i didn't know what to expect, but boy it was more than i bargained for. i had to get up, shakily, to use the bathroom halfway through the movie, because i started to feel my body going numb from how hard my heart was pounding, and i felt like i could never get enough air in my lungs...that was the first time i'd felt a reaction that intense from a horror movie in my life
Omg Hope you we're okay Afterwards 🥺
how can you watch a sequel to a movie without watching the first? genuine question
@@yuh_19you can usually google if the first movie is needed to understand the second one, and the second smile movie is easily understood without the first. They’re all new characters after all
I watched it on my phone and I would hold my phone away from me and sideways and wait for the jump scare to hit and then rewind it's the only way I can handle these movies. Best soundtracks ever.
@@amationary9784the beginning of the second has the cop from the first. With the drug dealers.
Just want to clarify as a prop master (not on this movie but others), that the Voss water was definitely not an accident or anything, even if they didn't sponsor the movie. If we want to be safe using branded products, there are companies whose job it is to provide film/tv sets with branded products that are pre-approved for screen use. I'm guessing Voss has a deal with one of those companies and the prop master was like "hey product placement company, what's a fancy water bottle brand I can use?" and bam, Voss water everywhere.
Anyway. That's my ridiculous nitpick. Continue.
Personally I just think it’s bc it’s a good, solid build and is high volume. Not sure what other brands would have similar qualities
@@CaulkMongler Brawndo. It’s got electrolytes.
@@TalentCaldwell too colorful. Would pull the eye too much compared to a clear glass of water
@@CaulkMongler But Brawndo has what plants crave. It’s got electrolytes.
100% agree. There's simply no way Voss was unintentionally chosen, especially considering how often and prominently it appeared, plus almost always showcasing the label. I very much doubt that any branded product so conspicuously featured in film/TV doesn't involve someone benefiting from it in some way.
I love the imagery of the butterfly leotard for the final moment. The outfit she specifically didn't want to wear because of her surgery scar and the demon uses it to emerge from her body like a chrysalis, and i think it got bigger than the last time we saw its true form in the first movie. Another theme I feel at play is loss of autonomy, the choices ripped from her hands as her team insist they know what's best for her and her career. The demon messes with her by giving her the fantasy of control. By presenting her defying her mom, her team, and having the unwavering support of a former friend just to rip that all away.
Dude I was SO pleased with smile 2. Like it added nothing to the first one but it cranked it up to 11 and it worked so well for me.
And that opening scene! I was genuinely freaking out at the theater, that one take was perfect. The most impressive one I’ve seen
yesss but i did enjoy the new perspective tho! and the acting was PHENOMENAL
SAME i saw it in theaters and it was so much more intense than i expected but i loved it
exactly!! sometimes thats all a sequel needs to do. everything we loved about the 1st but just cranked up.
me and my friends all lovedd smile, went we saw the second one in theaters we sit sat in silence for 2 minutes lol
Can you spoil the opening scene for me? I can't handle scary faces or gore, but I'm going with my sister soon and i plan to be under a jacket the whole time so i can listen to the movie instead. Is there face gore in the opening scene? (I know the first movie had face gore and the scary monster, which is why I'm prepared to not watch this one lol)
I am constantly impressed with how fast you can talk yet how crisp and easy to follow your voice is. Densely-packed information is refreshing.
I feel like she would make the best science videos or something, Hank Green style
I honestly had thought Morris was tricking her into the freezer to let her die alone with no witnesses bc there was no quick fix but he was desperate to end the curse and I was kind of disappointed he was entirely made up it felt too convenient and weird. BUT I am glad we ended with her on stage bc that felt like the most natural way to end it and up the stakes
I’m not convinced.
I think it’s possible the ending is a hallucination, and she IS in the freezer.
morris wasn't completely made up, he was real initially but after skye rejected him and went home, where she got an arm forced into her mouth, thats when everything was an hallucination and the demon had full control
@@rachelpotatothat was my theory too, I think he was real but everything after she passed out in her apartment is all fake/in her head
@@rachelpotato yeah he was right when he said if she went back home at that exact moment, it would be too late for her
@@BullyMaguire4ever I read someone that said in the credit music you could hear her banging on the freezer door.
The Amandela is so real I was so convinced and so clearly remembered her talking about the marketing and the cat scene that I actually went back through my browser history to try and find which video I must be mis-remembering but COULDN'T FIND IT this is HAUNTING me.
same! stg i've heard her talk about the accidentally killing the cat scene
this is 100% me. What did I watch. I know I never watched the the first movie but watched a review video like this and I could have sworn it was Amanda
@@nyixxs Right there with you with "know I never watched the movie" because SAME because I am a WIMP at horror movies but need to know what happened and I DID already know the plot of Smile before watching this video, so, like, WHERE DID I LEARN THAT?
Right now my best guess is Ruined did it and my brain is merging them and Amanda as "primo sources for finding out what happened in that one horror movie" but that still doesn't feel RIGHT.
ME TOO!! especially as I never saw the movie, so HOW ELSE DO I KNOW IT?!
0:34 Tbf, Smile does feel like a movie you would have covered by now
I know I fully get it - but multiple people say they distinctly think they remember things I said in it which is very fun
@@AmandaTheJedi Actually, that happened in the tangent universe.
@@AmandaTheJedi And I’m one of them. I don’t understand what’s happening. When I saw you posted this video I thought “oh she made another Smile video, didn’t know there was a sequel.” I was so certain. 😰
@@maja.vićSame lol, maybe we're all having a collective hallucinations 😅
@@maja.vić deep faked yourself. We really are lost this election...
I didn't feel that this movie was longer than it needed to be. It had several lingering shots that let the reality of the situation really settle in with the viewers and never shied away from uncomfortable scenarios. Both movies really capture what panic and hallucinations genuinely feel like and never down-plays them. A couple months before my SO passed away, she was suffering from hallucinations, where she was not only seeing things that weren't there, but talking to people who weren't there. It had become a horrific reality that we both experienced, and these movies do not take the experiences lightly and I appreciate that.
My ex had meth induced psychosis and someone who is so lost like that is a haunting experience
Fun fact, the dead ex is played by Jack Nicholson's son Ray. He definitely has his father's smile :)
Oh my gosh!!! I thought I had recognized him from somewhere!!
I willing to bet that Ray asked his dad for tips as to how to do the creepy smile
i was wondering why he looked familiar
😂😂😂😂😂 I actually told my sister he looked like Jack Nicholson in the movie theater. 😞
not ex, but co-star
Imagine if Smile 3 will be a post-apocalypse movie where almost everyone died from this demons spreading and we will be following the last survivors that are being hunted down in some way by the demon. That would be a wild continuation.
this could only be topped by a YA post-post-apocalypse sequel where no one is allowed to smile. Now that's super wild
I think this is where the story would go as well,but I'm worried about it being good.
We've had so many apocalypse variations and this movie's effect relies so much on paranoia and doubt.
If everyone has it, then I really doubt it could be as good of a horror movie as the previous 2.
It would either turn into a more action oriented thing or something like BirdBox.
It might be best to leave it at two,with the ending and implications horrifying enough
Yeah, I feel like we're going to be Bird Boxin' for #3. for _sure._
That’s an awesome idea
I mean they could explore group trauma/hysteria
I love that they refer to them as "cycles" like America's Next Top Model
"Smise"
Watched this last night with some friends and my girlfriend, and I loved it. I thought it was a huge improvement on the first one, which I was already a fan of, and was a very effective horror piece. My girlfriend and one of my friends both were absolutely devastated by it. My girlfriend cried after one of the jumpscares, and my friend said there were multiple times where he thought about leaving our theater for a moment to take a breather. The movie was basically full-throttle from the moment Skye inherited the curse, and afterwards, everyone I watched it with was physically shaken up to a degree that I had never seen before. Funny enough, the most unsettling part about my experience seeing this movie, was seeing how physically it affected the people I saw it with. Anyways, great movie, might go see it again. :)
The car crash/post car crash scenes might be the most traumatic things Ive ever seen on the screen. And I've seen some questionable films.
You absolutely did a smile review. I remember you going in depth about the original short film so so vividly. Crazy
Same! I feel like we're getting pranked 😂.
I KNOW RIGHT
SAME! I only remember the movie and its scenes specifically cause of amanda😅
Maybe you're thinking of Ryan Hollinger's video! That's the one I confused it with
Amandentia
So actually knowing mental health stuff, the bit in smile 2 where the pop star woman thinks and feels as if she broke her leg is accurate. You can actually manifest very real pain with mentally affected emotion, just not breaking bones, obviously.
Parker Finn confirmed that Voss had no paid deal/sponsorship with the film. He wanted to make the audience uncomfortable by using the idea of Skye chugging water as mechanism.
i didn't know what voss was even after the movie, i didnt realise the bottle was branded until smarter people mentioned it lol
@@Solarstormflare it just came across as expensive water for a pop star to me.
Im impressed how the actress managed to chug bottle after bottle for one take
One thing that blew my mind was after the backup dancer scene and the entity takes over, her mom tells her she’s completely dehydrated. What is really going on becomes harder and harder to track
It’s just a really good water to use as a prop. Solid build, large volume, and to me I perfectly understood it as a coping mechanism. The more we saw her supposedly chug water, the more we’re supposed to feel like she’s desperately grasping at control or to feel like she’s in control.
"It Follows" and "SMILE" are in the same universe, and the demons are related to each other.
I will die on this hill.
“It smiles” where the two demons fight each other
R.I.P
Wait no because I REMEMBER your video on Smile! What? So wild! I really love watching your movie reviews and explanations!
Literally same!
You're remembering shes scared I bet. They're a react channel with a similar aethetic who did smile
@@one_for_one Never seen that channel before! Might have been a different one, but I tend to stick with Amanda the Jedi since I trust her opinion on movies the most! Who knows!
@hinrinn1788 i thought she had too. Weird Mandela effect aye.
Yea I remembered it and sensing this I was so excited because I remember loving her review of the one before and now I find out that never happened? Maybe she forgot and it got deleted
my absolute favorite part of all this is the mandela effect with not one but two whole movies. people connected to the multiverse here and it was just for your videos
Smile really got under my skin. The way it's shot, the acting, just the plot itself, I felt like I was going crazy too. Poor Rose! I wasn't expecting to like the movie so much or for it to creep me out like it did. The sequel was good but I was prepared for it this time lol
22:00 THANK YOU!!! I have commented on 3 other videos about this cause that moment went right over thier heads.
YOU DIDN'T MAKE A SMILE VIDEO?????
Holy hell I even feel like I've already seen you say some of the stuff you said about the first movie
This is very fun for me
@@AmandaTheJedi if you don't like Amandella, maybe consider Amandementia ... ?
Kill count has a great smile video though !!!
I loved the music and choreography moments because they made her feel like a pop star that I would want to see! They barely dragged on and we’re important in demonstrating her slow descend into madness
This is why I'm happily very stupid. I had no idea if you did or didn't have a video on Smile, but since you make good videos, I'm happy to hear what you thought of either.
Amanda you don’t understand I distinctly remember you making a smile video when it came out and thinking “wow I could not watch this movie it would mess me up good thing Amanda’s here to tell me about it!” SAME WITH TRUTH OR DARE I remember the thumbnail for that video so vividly I could draw it this is so weird lol
No no no…I swear you did a Truth or Dare video 😭😂
I fear I did not bestie - maybe some day!
the longer i watched this video the more i remember a truth or dare and smile review video!!!
I fear I am going insane (more then usual)
@@AmandaTheJediWhat’s even crazier is that I thought that was the video that got me to subscribe to you. Now I have no idea how I even came across your channel.
Edit. I must have been the WISH UPON video.
Like there’s just no way I watched it again like a month ago !!
Writing down all of Amanda's Crime Advice, never know when it will come in handy.
Speaking of this effect I could have sworn you covered the movie Ready or Not. Which, now that I see you haven't, I am requesting. Lol. I just have a weird fondness for this film.
Honestly I also thought I covered that but like, a really quick review. gues not! There's a sequel coming so it'll happen!
@@AmandaTheJedi YOU DIDN'T ?!! My god this Amandella effect is making me feel like I'm losing my mind.
okay i fully remembered this also.
@@ArturGlass.C She talked about it multiple times just not made a video about it
Ahahaha thanks I hate it. I'm glad you came over to tell us about it because I would be a wreck if I ever watched these myself. I'm spooked just from the clips you shared and your description of what happens. Apparently this is the most effective type of horror for me.
Man i watched the first movie when i was deeply mentally unwell. It fucked me up. Literally i thought there was something in my house for 6 months, waiting around the corner to kill me. And every time i'd pass the corner, i just thought it moved to the next one, waiting for me. It was a nightmare everywhere i went. I'm not gonna watch the 2nd movie cuz i don't want to reopen that trauma, but bro... don't watch the movie if you can't handle it (my friends forced me to watch it together with them, i couldn't say no. I used to like horror movies so i thought it would be okay. I was not okay 😭😭😭)
The Smile 2 soundtrack is a bop though
Between your channel, Spookyastronauts, and PossessedbyHorror, I just realized that most of my TH-cam media commentary comes from 3 women with varying shades of red hair. I feel like I confuse who covered which movies because of this. lol. Love to hear everyone’s take on this movie especially!
I genuinely think that's the reason why everyone thinks she has covered movies that she hasn't.
I'm subbed to all three of them and I just realized I can't tell who covered which movies 😂
Am I the only one who does not live with the illusion that you made a review on the first smile? 🤣 ngl legit started to think that I missed something when so many people talked about it.
Oh it's not everyone, but it's a surprisingly high number of people aha
@@AmandaTheJedi Personally I'm just so confused about whose video it was I watched, since it wasn't yours. Can't even find the video in my browser history, and that thing hasn't been cleared out in ages. I know the whole plot of the movie and I've definitely never seen it. Crazy that it wasn't yours.
I feel like showing it can make you feel physical pain has made it a million times scarier purely because no matter mentally strong you are physical torture will fuck you over.
I don’t know how to feel about two movies focused on ‘mental health’ end with the MC ending their life in a horrific way😭maybe I need to rewatch smile but idk
I think it’s a LOT more than just two. I feel like most movies I’ve seen that either allegorically or figuratively deal with mental health end with the main character ending their life (or in the case of FIGHT CLUB, attempting to). There’s THE BUTTERFLY EFFECT (Directors Cut), SHUTTER ISLAND, JACOB’S LADDER, and some others I can’t recall the name of at the moment.
Personally, I dont think it’s supposed to be a real parallel to mental health but a good commentary on a it. The monster is fairly explicit and the driving supernatural force behind it. Both movies have a bad ending because both characters were failed in some way either by their own paranoia and/or by the immense pressure placed on them to be “back to normal” when what they needed was people who care enough to help them in the way they needed it.
EXACTLY
Like it’s supposed to be a metaphor for trauma but then the message is “you can never escape your trauma and it will ultimately kill you.”
Yeah but movies aren’t always meant to have a positive outcome for the protagonist it’s not how life works.
The sound design of both movies were beyond amazing. The way the score manipulates Skye's voice. And the ending credits! It was like the demon was mocking Skye by using her cry and turning it into a laugh
Yes the soundtracks are so bizarre and uncomfortable they're perfect
Honestly I legitimately thought it was going to be revealed that the water was being drugged by her mother. It really seemed to be a major focal point.
I clicked on this video FULLY remembering you talking about the first one, like “Oh yeah I remember her talking about that opening scene,” aaaaannndd apparently not!
I wonder if they are maybe confusing you with Chelsea Rebecca from Dead Meat. There’s the slightest, slightest of resemblances and you do cover a lot of horror which is what Dead Meat just is. They’ve covered both of those movies and will also talk about new horror movies like you do but I am not sure.
That's what I was thinking.
🤔
I thought that also lol
I’m sure that’s what’s happening because I definitely thought Amanda covered both Smile and Truth or Dare, and Dead Meat is the only other channel I watch that covers horror movies. I definitely watched videos about those two movies, and if it wasn’t Amanda it must have been Dead Meat.
Dead Meat haven’t covered Smile 2 yet. Can’t wait til they do!!
The car crash scene is the most traumatic in my opinion coz we never usually see when it happens right after and the victims are still in this dreadful pain realizing how messed up it is mostly when you see the people next to you in the car it that’s a sight you will see forever 😢
Oh! Lukas Gage, love him! He was in the series Dead Boy Detectives this year starting with episode 2. It’s a great series if you’re interested.
The "once the monster is controlling all of your perceptions, there's nothing you can do" is the classic Oculus problem.
I'm convinced this is a prank you're pulling manipulating us. Because I 100% remember you reviewing the 1st one
I feel like the third movie should be how the entity entered the first person. Like it needs a traumatic event to transfer from one person to the next so how did it get into a person in the first place. Was it an actual physical think that entered a persons mind after they witness a traumatic death and just kept jumping from mind to mind?
Imo, the only real issue with the second Smile movie is that the "scares" felt as if they were following the first beat-for-beat. Which, I understand if the demon found a pattern to use that works, go off fiend queen, but it made it a little predictable in that aspect for me. ie. the audio scare in the first movie vs the video scare in the second, the therapist calling when she's there vs the best friend calling. Things like that. Additionally, it felt that they relied on sudden scares more than the first, but that could be recency bias.
Are we all living in the Berenstein universe, because I swear Amanda's Smile video was one of the first videos I watched from her??! I even remember her talking about the short film that preceded it
The hospital is definitely getting sued. Putting a ceramic vase IN FRONT OF PATIENTS is clear negligence (and lazy writing).
Another post that completely failed to recognize the fact the protagonist was hallucinating the entire time and never stepped foot in said hospital.
@@TrippyTulipz493 I'll take a bit of blame for forgetting to clarify distinctly that the hospital scene didn't happen that was my bad
@@AmandaTheJedi I assume they meant the first Smile. Since thats where the ceramic vase is used. The mirror is used in the hospital scene in Smile 2. (kind of...but not really...sort of) lol
As someone with trichotillomania thank you for educating about it in this context instead being like “gross! Crazy” one of many reasons I will always return to your channel. I’ve never felt less ashamed about this condition just watching someone casually educate about it. I’m serious. Thank you.
definitely something I can't watch myself (having experienced psychosis before, I avoid movies/shows that mess with reality like this), so thank you for covering it! it sounds cool, I'm glad I got to watch it second-hand
"I don't know why I did that, and I don't know why I didn't commit to doing it well" could be the tagline to my life lmaooo
One thing I really appreciate about the Gemma twist in smile 2 is that at one point you see skye check her phone and can see that Gemma hasn't replied at all, even after the first night she seemingly stayed with Skye.
this is easily the most positive review for these movies that i've seen, and it's definitely making me think of them differently!
This review got me itching to watch both movies again. The sound design and soundtrack in Smile 2 is hypnotic.
Sidebar: I appreciate you don't overdo the focus on metaphors, this is an awesome review
The only reason I wish Smile 2 was shorter was because I watched it before work & was 15mins late. But while I was in the theater I feel like it went by rather quickly. Never felt lag or boredom. Honestly if Your Monster & Conclave weren’t coming out this weekend I’d be going to see it again.
I hadn’t seen Smile until recently, but I swear I knew the plot because of a video you did about Smile… This is honestly more horrifying and creepy to me than the films themselves
I felt the same thing about the moms death-I feel like she would just be so horrified she wouldn’t even escape she’d just give up
I watched your Smile video and loved it! You covering the final scenes and discussing the themes is what made me remember what the movie was in the first place.
So like... Im pretty sure you did a whole video about it
Like you talked about the isolation in mental health themes?
Lukas Gage you say? Oh you should really, REALLY watch Dead Boy Detectives... Where he's the Cat King..... I'm so very serious
Shame that was cancelled.
Although the less said about Neil Gaiman the better.
@@icravedeath.1200 He's marginally involved with the show and there is a campaign to save it, so who knows? Still very much worth the watch anyway :)
YESSSS ITS SO GOOD ITS MY COMFORT SHOW AND HYPERFIXATION
I've been waiting for you to do a video on Smile. I never saw it, as I have schizoaffective disorder and movies like this can sometimes trigger intrusive thoughts, etc. But I love horror, and appreciated the thorough run-through of both. I wish I could see them, as the themes really resonate with me, but its too risky. So thanks Amanda! 😁 You're the best.
No shot you never did a video about the first one? I was convinced you did! Talk about mental health and all? Who did I watch talk about it then? You are my go-to for movies!
I feel like a lot of horror movies are allegories for mental health so it could be any number of things
I feel there’s so much potential for the 3rd movie. Now that the parasite/ smile demon has spread to over thousands, it can explore what it would be like to have a CHILD having this parasite percifically he one that we saw get her poster signed at the meet and greet scene. If the host were to be a child, it could explore the fact that the parents/ guardians would think the child has and hyper imagination or just a lil imaginary friend. It’s more likely they would reach out for help, and even MORE likely the demon just get brushed off. It a cool concept I would LOVE to see them explore in smile 3
Obviously they can tweak the narrative any way they want but I don't think they will go the route of the demon possessing more than 1 person at a time. We will see though.
I understand the appeal of this movie, but it doe bother me that the whole thing is "This is trauma, and it's gonna spread and you're gonna kill yourself and there is no hope"
Yeah. It does bother me when literally everything isn’t roses and butterflies constantly, too.
@xinf3ctdx I mean there's objectively a middle ground, which is what most people experiencing mental health struggles deal with, and I think that's what OPs point is. It'd be one thing if more movies centered on mental health DID that and didn't end with the MC dying/killing themselves in an absolutely horrific way, but most don't. Most of them only have their greater point be "lifes a bitch".
Nothing wrong with having a movie like that, but when most of the mental illness movies are like that it starts to both get old and paint a very depressing pattern. Mental health struggles do not equal inevitability of death or suicide.
i think my personal issue is that in the first one it seemed like they made an attempt at bringing attention to those things and this one just feels like a cheap cash grab.
@@xinf3ctdx it's not about not being roses and butterflies, I understand that "life is hard". It is that the movie presents it as an inevitability. If the movie wants to make a metaphor out of mental illnesses, then I am allowed to analyse it under that lens and say "if your monster (trauma) can't be defeated except by death, then you accidentally claim that the only escape for trauma is death". I don't think the authors are horrible people, but it sucks that I even need to hold people's hands and say "do not worry, you're not a bad person" for liking this movie. I could not care less if you like this movie or not. But if they wanted to do an exploration of trauma, I believe there is some level of failure on making it an inescapable monster that will not be defeated by anything except death.
Taken from other reply. The way I see it is that it shows VERY specific negative and toxic behaviors that the protagonist does that keep her from recovering from said illness and trauma. It's the other non-glamorized side of the coin. I think its just as dangerous to say that we can cut off all ties from family and friends and meet our demons in a house and defeat them.
Remember, cautionary tales that end poorly can be just as useful to us as individuals to course correct our behavior and learn.
Girl, I'm on the Amandella effect, I could swear I saw your video about the 1st film, I even thought "Oh, she re-edited it for this one". I don't remember at all any other channel that would've covered it and yet here we are... What a mind mess!
Man I haven’t kept up with your videos as much as I should, I’m so proud you’re at 600k. I was fortunate enough to find you at 3K cause of Midnite. ❤
Thank you!
I totally forgot that in the first Smile movie, Joel discovered that all the infected people committed suicide within a week. The exception was Robert Talley, who instead murdered someone, and the key witness to the murder continued the suicide chain. At the beginning of Smile 2, Joel has been infected for six days, time is running out and he finally decides to try Robert Talley’s strategy. He attempts to kill one of the drug dealers in front of the other, passing the curse on to someone who deserves the bad Karma. Instead the brothers both end up dying in a shootout with Joel, and because Lewis Fregoli (Lukas Gage) witnessed their deaths, it was passed on to him.
My husband and I went to watch Smile 2 last weekend and when we got home I went to see if you had reviewed it yet as I like listening to your opinions. Obviously you hadn't uploaded it yet so I decided I'd rewatch your Smile video. Then I realized that didn't exist, and was really confused as to why I very distinctly remember you making a video. I chalked it up to being crazy, but now I'm convinced we've converged timelines lmao
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
This is actually so crazed bc I SWEAR TO GOD I HEARD your voice and cadence IN MY HEAD saying "truth or dareee" in the way only you can IM GOING NUTS!!
I was also convinced you had done videos on these films, the Amandela effect is strong with this one!
I FIGURED IT OUT! I was thinking of Ryan Hollinger's video he did😭 i was starting to lose my mind
I think Smile 2 is such a meaner movie than the first one and I mean it as a good thing
I'm not typically a horror movie goer, as with my own mental health struggles they can make me a bit too uncomfortable and all of that. However, while on a very, very long plane ride I saw someone watching smile in front of me. I was aware of the marketing for the movie, and for some reason I decided to give it a go against my usual tendencies in film selection. To my surprise, I enjoyed it quite a bit and I thought that the ending was really unique! I was totally surprised when Rose did not survive, as like you said in your review you are typically always expecting them to do so or find a way to battle whatever is happening.
As a result, when seeing they were making a sequel earlier this year and that THE Naomi Scott was in it (huge fan since Lemonade Mouth), I had to watch it in theatres. I brought my boyfriend along and it's safe to say that I will never watch a horror movie in a theatre again. I do agree that the movie felt a bit long at times, but the actual experience was very effective, impactful, and left me audibly screaming at least once! As others have pointed out, it really did take everything from the first movie and crank it to an 11.
I was, however, disappointed with the ending. As soon as the movie's first trailer/premise was announced, everyone was theorizing that it would end exactly how it did - the singer would die on stage and pass it to a lot of people. Since the first movie was sort of a subverting of expectations/common tropes, and with the introduction of Morris, I was actually hoping we would get a "good" ending this time. I feel like Morris and the alternative method could have been a more interesting way to explore the abilities or lack thereof of the creature and the lore surrounding it - whereas in the ending we got it just kind of reinforces what we already know rather than introducing something new. I don't necessarily think she should've been able to walk away scot-free (pun intended), but it just felt predictable to have it end like it did where I was wanting them to do something else.
Would absolutely love to see you watch Dead Boy Detectives! Lukas Gage is AMAZING in it!
Not directly related to the topic, but I didn't know that a sequel was being made of "It Follows".
Now I am worried they're going to sully my memory of an excellent horror movie. "It Follows" messed with me in a way that few other spoopy movies have.
Me thinking that the Truth or Dare video you didn’t make was your Ready or Not video….which you apparently also didn’t make…
this is so weird bc i don’t remember watching a smile video form amanda, but i swear i saw a thumbnail for the video😭😭😭
Amanda, you will get SO MUCH GOOD Lukas Gage time with Dead Boy Detectives, he's all throughout season 1! 👻💀🔍
PERIODTTT he was AMAZING as the cat king
I saw this movie in theatres with my sister and friends, it was SOOOO good!! I didn’t watch the first one but heard people talk about it. My sisters bought my ticket because they liked the first one. I love the horror genre but I get startled easily like an excited puppy 😅 I remember 2 specific moments when I screamed so loudly it made everyone in the theatre laugh and I just wanted melt into my seat because my friend kept exposing me when my sisters were whispering “omg who was that? They were close by” 😭😂
Loved the theme and Naomi Scott did an AMAZING job in this role!! I need her to get more good scripts so I can love her more ❤❤
You should definitely watch the first one! It has been one of my favs since I saw it! So good!!
Wait now I wanna know which scenes you screamed at lol
Skye Riley’s music was too good! 🤩
Ok I had the Amandella Effect for a bit scrolling through your channel desperately looking for your first smile video but now I remember I watched “The Brutality of Smile” video and I think you two have similar commentating styles or something that draws my brain between your two. Maybe it’s because I only watch the two for horror explanations because I’m too much of a wimp to watch them myself 😅
What bugs me about both the first and this is the movie is all about dealing with mental health and in the first film she confronts her trauma and seemingly is able to overcome it but nope.
It feels really cruel to make a movie about a suicide demon and the outcome is "even if you face it, you'll still die."
I admit, in this one she tries to take an easy way out and maybe you can argue because of that she's not able to defeat it...but Rose didn't deserve that ending.
Otherwise it works. But the endings are just cruel. And I have no interest in a third movie about a bunch of high schoolers killing themselves.
At 23:06 we have to take in the fact that she is a pop star that just killed someone. Then, moments later the dude was about to comeback. I dont believe she thought she had time to grief and mourn because as some say the world keeps spinning and that would have further trapped skye wit the demon,
I like that the first movie heavily implies that even if you find a way to get rid of it the demon will eventually come back to start a new chain with a different victim
The fact that I've told people about Smile from the video you NEVER MADE, it's going to drive me crazy akdhakdjksjd
the intro to this is golden--the fact that you've accidentally mandella'd people... you've made it man, you've made it
could swear you did a truth or dare video and I watched it more than once?? I’m absolutely baffled lol
FR I so remember some truth or dare video wasnt it added too the pete davidson one where they were all just accidently dying?
Wait I also remember a truth or dare video…was there not a truth or dare video???
@@lilRaivinPoethere’s definitely a bodies x3 video, there has to be
@@syds8752 She combined a couple movies into one with turth or dare and bodies right?
@@KS-tp1um apparently not???
Issue with horror movie sequels. Once you know how the “demon, monster, villain “ works it loses its horror. The reason the first one works so well because we don’t know what it is, why, or not see plot twists coming. This movie to me was just funny, I laughed more than anything. I counted how many Voss bottles came up, telling my friend “I bet you she’s gonna get another voss about now”
WAIT I could have sworn that the only reason I knew anything about Smile was a video by you lol
I remember seeing the thumbnail then going oh I'm actually gonna watch this one so no spoilers.
Wait is there another youtuber that vaguely looks like Amanda and watched it could that be what's going on
What's interesting is that Morris is the monster, the bar dialogue is the monster explaining what it is, what it does and even explaining the chain it works within. Because it knows, even of you know, your still doomed.