The Non-Naturals: A Key Concept in the History of Medicine

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  • @mejzzwejz713
    @mejzzwejz713 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    As far as I'm concerned you could upload a 24 hour long video every day

    • @juliamartinshistory
      @juliamartinshistory  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That is so wonderful to hear, thank you! ♥ The algorithm hasn't been kind to me lately, so I really appreciate your encouragement. (I love fanfiction too, btw!) 📚

    • @mejzzwejz713
      @mejzzwejz713 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@juliamartinshistory The algorithm annoys me in general, I always navigate to my subscriptions tab so I know I get what I want and I don't miss out🤭 And I'd love to ask questions about your fandom life but I'm worried doing so is inappropriate 👀

    • @juliamartinshistory
      @juliamartinshistory  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @mejzzwejz713 that's a good tip, I might start suggesting that to people... 😬 And I should probably explore that in a video, but I quite like it when Paracelsus is involved...! 😂 😬 🤷‍♀️

  • @LancasterHermitCrafter
    @LancasterHermitCrafter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dear Dr. Martin, thank you so much for the upload! If you ask me, I'd gladly listen to you for hours, your research is thorough, and the way you present is so eloquent! Having Pancake in the frame from time to time is a treat, too - as a catlady myself, I always enjoy seeing a feline being treated with love 😁 Again, thank you so much! 💐

    • @juliamartinshistory
      @juliamartinshistory  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That is so very kind of you, thank you so much! I agree with you, Pancake is the ideal co-star! He just loves cuddles ♥ 😺

  • @jenw274
    @jenw274 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was interested about the rising from the stomach to the brain as the vagus nerve was discussed in a video i watched earlier by Dr Pradip Jamnadas. There is so much that was known, just not in the vocabulary that we use. Physiology and psychology are fascinating. Thank you for this venture. I look forward to hearing more.

    • @juliamartinshistory
      @juliamartinshistory  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's such a good point. I agree with you, much that was known was understood through different frameworks, yet there are so many similarities between today and the past! I'm so glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. 😊

  • @craigsurette3438
    @craigsurette3438 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thankyou SO much for these videos. am very happy to have found them.
    I am a TCM practioner, with a degree in Ethnomedicine with a focus on shamanistic healing and Classics, with a focus on indigenous European pre christian spirituality so this stuff is super interesting to me. I thank the algorithm, that i was recommended your channel, and will be pouring through your videos soon!

    • @juliamartinshistory
      @juliamartinshistory  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much for your kind comment! Your work sounds fascinating, too. I hope you enjoy the videos - and thank you for watching! :)

  • @mariaisabelbragattiwinckler
    @mariaisabelbragattiwinckler 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Julia, this is a very interesting topic. Once again, these points are always taken into account when thinking about health, prevention and treatment. It is true that we all grew up hearing “advices” like you mentioned for a healthy life. Thank you for so much!

    • @juliamartinshistory
      @juliamartinshistory  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm so glad you enjoyed the video! I agree with you, so much of this advice has parallels with how we think about health today... Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment ♥

  • @jorgehendersonerrandonea1075
    @jorgehendersonerrandonea1075 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All "tips" applicable to present days!
    👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @fionafiona1146
    @fionafiona1146 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I second this.
    Is it inappropriate to put content creators in time dilation so we get more of their work per time?

    • @juliamartinshistory
      @juliamartinshistory  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hahaha I love that! The school holidays are tricky (no childcare!) but hopefully I'll be able to make more videos soon 😊

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@juliamartinshistory childcare availability/coverage is certainly something to work on, I am sure your audience would be quite willing to lobby several countries on the subject, beyond any financial contributions.

    • @juliamartinshistory
      @juliamartinshistory  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @fionafiona1146 thank you for your support, it's so kind of you to say that. I think childcare is a challenge for so many parents!

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@juliamartinshistory
      Something about woman's history and social infrastructure, I know a TH-camr who makes great video essays
      She should make one on the subject, especially how it's worse during (public -)health crisis

    • @juliamartinshistory
      @juliamartinshistory  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @fionafiona1146 definitely!

  • @nanettenyce4167
    @nanettenyce4167 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With your Brasileira background, you're the perfect person to ask :) When I was in Sao Paulo nearly 30 years ago, I was told that mango & milk together would make you sick - "faz mal". I couldn't understand why this was believed to be so. Was it related to some interpretation of the "Non-Naturals" effect on the body?

    • @juliamartinshistory
      @juliamartinshistory  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is such a good question, thank you! I grew up with this myth, and I think it's still something people say, to nutritionists' dismay. I have heard the explanation that the Portuguese colonisers used this 'rule' to keep enslaved people from consuming milk, which wasn't cheap, as opposed to mangoes, which were abundant. However, that sounds unlikely to me. The Portuguese did introduce cattle farming in the Brazilian colinies, but they also brought mangoes from India (especially places like Macau). And, in Ayurvedic medicine, there are many food combinations that are believed to be harmful to the body, including fruits like mangoes and milk consumed together (though I'm not claiming to be an expert on this subject!). So, I believe it's more likely that when they brought mangoes to Brazil the Portuguese also brought these beliefs with them, and they survived in popular culture. Plus, Ayurveda did influence ancient Western medicine, such as the humoral theory and the non-naturals. And this medicine survived for centuries - so it would make sense that this prohibition would have been accepted by the Portuguese.

    • @nanettenyce4167
      @nanettenyce4167 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@juliamartinshistory That's really interesting, thank you! I would have never guessed that old Ayurvedic medicinal beliefs might be the root :)

  • @anthropomorphicpeanut6160
    @anthropomorphicpeanut6160 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've heard advice like this! My mother still thinks I will get very sick if I go to sleep with wet hair, even in summer!

  • @merryfergie
    @merryfergie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Near the end of the video, whilst talking about the "passions" , when people died of emotions.....
    I saw my brother get sick and due after he received divorce papers.
    When he received the papers, he dropped them on the table & said, "There goes 20 years for nothing."
    Within 1 month, he was diagnosed with diabetes and given oral medication. the medication disturbed his stomach. He continued with the meds. The meds led to other ailments, and within a couple of years, he died.
    I witnessed this happening and did what i could to suggest mental health care & to stop taking the prescribed meds & change his diet.
    Imo, he died of his passions

    • @juliamartinshistory
      @juliamartinshistory  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh my gosh, how terrible! I'm so sorry to hear that, I can't imagine how devastating that must have been for you and your family. How heartbreaking! I do hope you're doing better now. ♥

  • @paulagruman8311
    @paulagruman8311 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm always curious as to if these cures,treatments, or preventive acts really were effective. If people continued on doing them, maybe some of it worked? Or is it placebo effect? Could you do a video about this subject?

    • @juliamartinshistory
      @juliamartinshistory  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a great question, and definitely something to explore in more videos. Some of these therapies did work and are still used (fenugreek tea for breastfeeding, for instance), whereas others were ineffective or even outright dangerous (mercury/arsenic come to mind...). I think the 'placebo effect' definitely played a role - in the 16th century, for instance, 'dramatic' cures were quite popular (emetics/laxatives etc), as patients could 'see' the effects of the remedy... But it's also important to say that people often used a myriad of treatments, so it's tricky to separate causes and effects. Having said that, there was much empiric knowledge that was gathered through trial-and-error, and kept in family recipe books, for instance.

  • @craigsurette3438
    @craigsurette3438 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr Martin, i have a question .You mention when you are talking about miasma, that doctors would burn herbs to "clear the air" of miasma and help sick patients.
    I have been specifically looking for information on this topic for a while now. Do you either have a video on this, or can you recommend some good sources to point us towards .
    I know that the term for this practice was often "suffumigation" in latin, and probably was used in folk medicine pretty extensively as we have 2 attested words for it "Saining" in Gaelic and "Reekning" in old English
    I also know that the practice was common enough in rural Scottish and Irish traditional culture, when colonists came to the US , and saw Natives using smoke to spiritually clear spaces, they called what they saw "smudging" because what they saw was enough like what they saw the old "Grannies" doing they already had a name for it.
    Any pointers towards some research leads will be deeply appreciated. Thankyou in advance

    • @juliamartinshistory
      @juliamartinshistory  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is a great question (and I should probably make a video about it!).
      From the sources I'm familiar with (mostly from early modern Europe), it was a practice common both in folk/'popular' medicine (and there are recipes about it in many vernacular books besides Latin) as well as in learned medical texts. I have come across several of these treatments for womb-related ailments, from menstruation to infertility. I recommend checking out Helen King's work, especially her wonderful book Hippocrates' Woman, Laurence Totelin's book Hippocratic Recipes, Monica Green's work on the Trotula, Jennifer Evans' work, especially her article 'Female barrenness, bodily access and aromatic treatments in seventeenth-century England' (onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1468-2281.12058). I believe Ulrike Steinert also writes about this subject, focusing on Mesopotamia, if I remember correctly. I hope this helps! :)

    • @craigsurette3438
      @craigsurette3438 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@juliamartinshistory Thankyou so much for such a detailed reply!
      I have a lot of reading to get to, it seems. My current research focus is attempting to understand what sort of practices were common , when someone went to a Cunningman/Faerie doctor/ Hegewitch/Folkhealer/Granny etc type rural medical specialist with a complaint. especially in the Early Modern era/ by the time of the influx of poor rural people into the Colonial Americas
      I was sort of minimally familiar with the "fumigation to help womens complaints " in Trotula, but had thought that was a "heating to help women's cold and wet Humors problems" thing vs a specifically Miasmatic thing so i hadnt thought to go digging there.
      I now have a pile of papers/books to bother my librarian about getting via ILL
      Thankyou again !

    • @juliamartinshistory
      @juliamartinshistory  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @craigsurette3438 You're welcome! That sounds like a very interesting project, I'd love to read your work when it's ready. Good luck with it and I hope you have a fantastic librarian to help you - though, to be fair, most of them are pretty incredible, so I think the odds are on your side. :)

  • @StoneHerne
    @StoneHerne 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😃 Hi, Dr. Julia! This one is super interesting and those illustrations are fascinating! It's amazing how many of those ideas and practices are present in medicine and popular culture nowadays! I would like to know about the 7th non natural, the controversial one. 😁
    The colpo d'aria reminded me that when I was a child, my grandmother frequently said that we shouldn't go out by night, or the "sereno" will fall upon us, meaning a "bad air caused by the night itself" in a way similar to colpo d'aria, how interesting is when alike ideas grow in different places and times! 🤔
    😃 Happy to watch your videos! Stay great and see you next time! 😃

    • @juliamartinshistory
      @juliamartinshistory  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you, I'm so happy you found the video interesting! I agree with you, there are so many of these ideas that have survived to our days... I grew up being warned about sereno, too! As for the 7th non-natural, I might leave that one to theologists... 😂 Thanks again for your kind feedback. 😊