I'm with you on the pads. Those falls you don't see coming, like unexpected wheel bite or that tiny piece of gravel always make me grateful for some padding
Quedgeley Shredders yeah, no right or wrong I guess, everyone has different ability, experience, personal circumstance. The younger dudes do seem to bounce a bit better!! I enjoy wearing no pads, but when I come a cropper I wonder what was I thinking lol !!
I bring a full set (helmet, knee+elbow+wrist guards) every time I skate but typically use different levels for different activities. A miniramp session would be with just wrist guards, and I'd add maybe for the knees or the elbows for certain tricks. Bowl or vert would be full gear.
Yeah dude, I’ve been finding I’ve been having sessions at the local without pads, just doing the stuff I’m super confident with. That said I still feel like a fool for not wearing them when I come a cropper 😂
@@JonBishopSkate Honestly, protection looks cool in my opinion, Tony hawk rocks it, if you would wear protection to work, why not doing something you love.
@@lillyfitzgerald9996 yeah man, I enjoy the freedom and less sweaty option that no pads provides, but as a beginner it’s a balance between progression and injuries for me so it’s pads for bigger bowl and learning tricks. I’ve been having a go at the vert ramp recently and knee pads and helmets are the very minimum used by the top pro guys!!
As self-employed a 50 year old who has just taken up skating again after a 30+ year gap it's pads all the way for me! It was good seing your experiences on the kit you use and likes seeing your video on the visit to Transition Extreme in Aberdeen which is my local park.
You summed it up perfectly.. As middle aged guys we don't bounce like the younger lads so we need protection because lets face it when your learning new stuff you fall A LOT!! I remember dropping in on a 3ft ramp with no knee pads on and of course I failed and slammed and couldn't walk for a week I tried it again a week later this time with pads on and of course slammed but was able to get up and carry on with my session..Good pads and a helmet are essential in my eyes who cares if you don't look cool to the hip skaters! You don't look cool with a concussion! On a side note Bish I got the G Form knee and elbow pads they are expensive but really slim and great protection from impacts
Are those the soft ones with no plastic? I'm about to build a 3.5ft high mini and basically learn to skate from scatch on it. I initially thought 187 pros would be good but they look overkill for a 3.5ft mini. The G form look probably a lot more suitable.
@@Asator66 yes they are soft with no plastic I wear them every time I skate and have had some really good falls and they are brilliant for impacts..I wouldn’t recommend them if your gonna be bailing using knee sliding but they are light and flexible I barely know I’m wearing them 👍
I'm not too old but not too young either. I sit right there at middle age. I believe everyone should wear protective gear simply because it's absurdly idiotic not to. I'm proud to say I agree with you.
Started skating at 31yrs and I wear at least a helmet. No matter what. It saved me some lifes. Now I bought some pads after I messed up my left knee two times. Watching this with ice on my wrist. 😂
I'm 33 and back at skating for around 6 months after 13 years off, and your videos have been hugely helpful for me, both in terms of relearning tricks and also picking the right gear/equipment. Love the channel!
With the crew of older fellas (and ladies) that skate around here, it almost seems cooler to wear pads than not to wear them. They’ve saved me quite a few times. I love my pads!
Another great vid. You take pads to whole new level. And I like that you are not afraid to use them- I skate so cautiously that I rarely fall even though I’m padded up. I like the ankle support idea as I broke my ankle in college skating a half pipe. My shoes were a half size too big and I caught my toe coming off a rock slide. Now I make damn well sure my shoes are tight! Tortoise pads make a great padded short.
This is awesome! I am oddly fascinated with safety gear. I have added to my collection as well, based on my falls. So far I have a helmet, knee, wrist, elbow pads, as well as butt and hip pads, ankle pads, and shin guards.
Hi Jon. Love your enthusiasm mate. Another old skater here, 47 and now go skating with my son. I love helmets because they are uncool, I maul grab and mongo push too. It's great when your old, you never have to worry about being cool!
I'm 24 and just learning how to skate. Thanks for this guide. I personally think I'll look stupid wearing a ton of PPE at the skatepark, but I'd rather look stupid than get injured. Plus I'm still learning and can't even ollie or shove it yet when there are kids half my age dropping vert and kickflipping with no PPE, so I'll look stupid regardless so I don't care.
Good stuff man, just do your thing and own it!! Skaters are a good bunch, they know how hard it is and how much it hurts! Other skaters will be stoked watching you pushing your own limits, no mater what those limits are !!
Thank you for this video, you gave me the last convincing I needed to order protective gear. Just got back in to skateboarding at age 24, got a job and can't afford breaking my arm. I learned that the hard way last week😅 Lucky it was just a minor fractuur. You just showed me that having fun and, riding good and keeping balance, is as good as possible with the protective gear as without.
I'm 48 and going to start again for the first time in years...something tells me I may need pads at least till I get my balance again!... Inspired my my favorite pros like Cab that are older than me and still skating...Tony Alva is 60 and still sneaking into backyard pools, that's a skateboarder!.. "I guess I'll just skate till the wheels fall off." - Tony Hawk
Really appreciate this video. I'm a long time skater - who is nearing the half way mark in years, and picked up some pads so I can hit the skate park ramps for the first time in over 25 years. I love the DIY mods in your equip. I didn't even think of hip padding... but think I am going to invest in that if I get serious about regular ramp drop ins and bowling runs. Cheers!
LoL I started skating 1 year ago and I accidently got almost identical setup, but with other products. I also have snowborder back protection :) Used it the first time I tired to grind a rail :) I say I like to wear all the protection.
100% with you. Never wore pads in my youth but at 56 I can’t afford to miss work because I’ve broken my wrist. My pads Are 888s and do the job but I have also started adding things such as padded shorts. Killer 187’s do seem to be very popular. Better to be safe than sore 😄
Yeah dude, it’s obviously more free and comfy without pads. Now I’m getting more confident I’ve started enjoying a few spins on the backyard mini just doing the most simple tricks with no pads. Also a cruise round the bowl on the surf skate seems to be a fairly safe bet. I still wear a helmet and wrist guards 100% though just in case there is a freak incident such as hitting a stone or a scooter flying in over the edge??
@@JonBishopSkate I’ve noticed a few of your ‘pad free’ sessions and thought how brave you were being 😄 You may have seen it but the 2009 Dew Tour in Oregon featured a bowl comp and there was a huge divide there between pros in pads and locals without. Fantastic competition if you can find it on here. I actually bought a surf skate last week after seeing one of your videos. A Two Bare Feet ‘A’ frame board and God’s teeth it feels weird. 😳
Nice one Jon! If you skate with pads, you live to skate another day! I am a Vans guy too, but I only buy the Pro's because they have the really comfy insole and the reinforced toe box. My go to's are half cabs or Sk8 hi. The new Rowan Zorillas are nice too. They do a Sk8 hi BMX which have a cup sole instead of vulcanised and they last much longer. I wouldn't say Vans are the best quality, but they have the most reliable sizing, which is perfect for buying online. I always buy in the sales to because you know they are gonna get thrashed. I bought 3 different styles of Adidas last year. All size 43, but each one was a completely different size! Really inconsistent. I can recommend 187 Derby wrist guards. They have a plastic plate on the palm which is a better solution than the splint that fits in the pleather pockets. 5 bails on concrete and you have to get the gorilla tape out! The 187 derby wrist's don't have the splints on the top of the hands, but they last much longer. We have a mate who is a doctor and he said if you hit your hands hard enough to break them, you will probably break your forearm just above the wrist guards. It doesn't mean they are useless as they will protect all the little bones in your wrists and palms which are harder to fix. I also wear forcefield impact shorts. They are a bit expensive, around £90, but the pads have similar tech the D3O and are removable so you can machine wash the shorts. They have snowboarding model, but I use the motorbike ones because the padding is for higher impacts. These are a real life saver against hippers. You know how those feel right?! They might be expensive, but I have got 6 years and counting out of mine. Great investment. All the best, Rich in Sweden.
Nice one Rich Thanks for the update. Yeah, I use the sliders to disparate energy and move it to the elbow pad which is far more robust. With a bit a practice you can slide along quite a way on the knees and Elbows. I try not to put my hands down if I can !!
@@JonBishopSkate Yeah! I got my knee slides down to almost second nature. I think this is a really important technique that doesn't really get talked about. I wished I had learned and practiced this earlier. Maybe it would make a good video! The wrist guards and impact shorts are for suprise attacks! I've get plenty of those! 😬😖😵🤕
Helmet. Since i bang my head really hard few years back and fortunately that's when i used a helmet at that time, i always put my helmets on. Last week i just hit my head really hard from 7.5 ft quarter straight to flat from the coping, luckly my helmets on. I wonder what will happened if i didn't put my helmet on last week. Got dizzy a little bit and got a bit bruise in my face but everything's alright. Got back up and skate again, all because i put my helmet on
Hey Jon, I’m really enjoying your videos. I can totally relate to you using pads, especially for the wrist. You’re a guitarplayer, I’m a drummer and can’t have anything happen to the wrists. That’s for sure! Keep up the great work man. Cheers from a 51 year old skater/drummer from Holland😊😎💪🛹🥁
Machiel Verhaar many thanks for tuning in and the great comments !! I can always spot the musicians and artists in the session as they’ll be wearing the wrist guards lol !!
Thank you for the video! Just one thing I've noticed is that Tony Hawk didn't wear a triple 8 helmet in his 900 at age 48 video. He is wearing a Birdhouse helmet (his own brand).
You wear a shitload of pads but you have an even larger amount of gusto. Keep doing you Jon Bishop! I've been skating 36 years so really, i'm just here for the entertainment 🤘
@@JonBishopSkate I'm the same... Ok don't tell anyone, but i wear cheeky little pair of hip pads whenever i skate a mini too 😂🤫😉Great call on the wrist protection BTW. I'm a digital artist (photography, painting in photoshop for weeks on end, etc). I broke the end of my radius in 5 places on my drawing arm while wearing a wrist guard. My Producer at the time put it pretty simply - "that wrist is your career". I HATE wearing them as I naturally move my wrists a lot when i skate, so getting used to them from day one as you're doing is only a good thing.
Gave you a like simply because when you were talking about getting hit in the ankles you didn't say you were angry or frustrated, instead you got "bored" of that - lol.
Thanks once again for sharing your experience and insights Jon! My top tip for shoes would be the Converse Boot (the model with padded ankle protection and thicker sole), their design resists better to toe wear than Vans Sk8 models, although I prefer the looks of the Vans. With them I wear running insoles and padded skate socks both from Decathlon, good stuff. Keep up the great vids, happy skating!
@@JonBishopSkate So I bought these knee and elbow pads shop.rampworx.com/products/187-killer-pads-fly-knee-pads-red-white-blue?variant=12162212364378¤cy=GBP&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsNndyvaY6gIVxKsYCh2ARwbKEAQYASABEgIQUPD_BwE I wanted to be different and be a little colourful! They're so comfy and give you a little more confidence.
Perfect timing, I've been looking for a review on hip protectors and helmet, thanks for sharing!!! Helmet is a must for me , I know pro-skater Andy Anderson use helmet
This video should be required viewing for over 30 skaters. Aside from the obvious that the serious injuries that often result from fluke accidents in skateboarding can impact your ability to do your job or take care of loved ones, one of the worst aspects of injury is being off your board. I was doing a slappy boardslide on a double sided curb a few weeks ago, got a couple of really good ones, and the third one I stuck and slammed forward (I was already rocking a helmet every session). If it had been a 50-50 I would have been able to roll sideways or slam on my butt, but on a backside boardslide, you can really mess yourself because you are facing forward. I could barely wipe my own hindquarters the next day and I've had trouble typing and playing guitar for the last couple weeks. I'm not going to do sliding tricks without wrist and elbow protection again. I also got the bumsavers and covert knee pads to wear underneath my jeans. I am not interested in looking cool (there is literally nothing I could do for that, and there's no reward! who am I trying to impress?), I am interested in continuing to skate well into my 40s, 50s, and 60s. Furthermore, without pads, I don't do stuff that risks falling, and as a result don't progress in my skating. I'd rather progress and not get injured than avoid the slight discomfort of wearing pads (that anyone can get used to once you wear them often enough).
Yeah dude, it’s all personal preference, but I too am a father, bread winner and guitar player so wrist guards and a helmet are mandatory. I’m also 47 so I can also think of nothing worse than being considered cool😆 I like the feeling of bare knees so I dabble with that, but it’s only for sessions where I’m not gonna be knee sliding? The hip pads have been a saviour. My hips seem particularly boney and even the mellowest roll ends up in the bruises of doom.
Great video, keep up the good work! (I am now rocking pretty much all of that gear and am excited to get back to the bowl with a little more confidence!)
I wear Globe Sabres because they're actually wide enough for my EEE wide foot but they fit perfectly with extra socks and ankle supports. The triple 8 helmets didn't fit because my head is more roundish and no matter how I set the padding it would be flopping around in one area and pinching in another or completely loose or tight. Going to try an S-one.
Bro, love the vids my man. You fucking legend. Thanks. 43 here and learning. Love it. Feels like I am 13 again. But, hey, gotta go to work on next day. Love rocking the pads at the park.
Been skating for quite some time and I'm at the point where I'm older now, and my falls are way harder, as I am going for bigger tricks on bigger walls. Need pads now.
My choice for skate shoes are the basic black suede skate shoe from Decathelon. I bought them just as I was there and they have turned out to be super touch and long lasting, offer plenty of grip, ths soul is a little more cusioned that Vans and the tongue is also cusioned and protects the top.of the foot if bailing on transition. Well worth a punt and really reasonably priced. I would like to hear your opinion John. Love the channel, just ordered ankle guards after another chunk removed from just below the bone...ouch.
Hi Jon, could you tell me where did you get the extra D3O pad for the demon wrist savers? I had some nasty slams on my left wrist and I feel if I have another one, won't skate again let alone play guitar!!!
Hey dude Yeah the D30 has been great in the wrist guards, I also recommend the neoprene gasget idea to go under the wrist guards, tbh that’s the most effective upgrade as it makes the whole wrist guard fit properly all over with the extra support from the neoprene. All the names of the products are in the vids I think? I race sailboats so the D30 is by a company called Musto and it’s designed as Skiff racing body armour. Just search Musto D30 and select the most cost effective piece. I thing I just cut up a back lumber pad? That one pad made the extra Achilles pads and wrist guard bits. It may seem bit overkill , but I play guitar for my job so I have to manage risks as best as possible??
Big thumbs up. This is a great video and I am always open to new ideas on how not to end up hurt. Some links to some of that gear would be nice. I don’t know if it is all available in the states or not, you mention some brands I’m not aware of. Will have to investigate the ankle gear for sure, wrist and hip are of interest too. Lots of great ideas. Keep up the good work. Glad I found your videos.
Really appreciate the effort and in depth walk through of your gear. Any ideas where I can get the hip protectors you added to your shorts in the UK? Or the extra musto d30 pads cos the ones I can seem to find (recoil for shooting) seem to have a honeycomb pattern and seemless sturdy.
😅 watching this while being relegated to couch for two weeks because my board found my Achilles heal before I found it and imprinted a nice footprint there.😳😂 Ohh and helmet; off course. I wish some mayor brands would step up and simply stop advertising without helmets in any form.
nice one Jon. obviously yes to helmet! even if you wear nothing else, wear a helmet! you can recover from anything except cracking your skull. also when done right, helmets look awesome. but do yourself a favour and dont buy a black helmet, it gets so damn hot in the sun, buy a white or bright coloured one, thank me later :P
That slam in your intro gets me every time Jon, and I get why you wear pads(I was surprised to find out how many) but for me coming home with bloody shins and grazed elbows is part of skating. I do gear up for big bowls though, they're no joke. If I may ask a question. Do you ever just skate down the street unpadded?
Hey Dude Yeah, only really pad up if I’m trying something new or a bit risky. Been enjoying getting out and feeling the freedom of no protection on the curbs and also a bit in the bowl. It certainly sharpens the focus!!
Hey Jon, Do you have any hints or tips on how to get the right sized knee and elbow pads from 187? Also have you tried Vans Skate Sk8-Hi’s(formerly known as Sk8-Hi Pros)?
Hey Dude Many thanks for tuning in! There should be a size chart on the 187 site so you can measure up ? I’ve allways used the Half Cab, and the full Cab? The full cab is basically a slightly more padded Sk8-Hi ??
Thanks for the video. I ride with protection gear. A) How do you manage the stink? (here and there washing, but after 2 sessions it stinks again) B) Why no regular skate crashpant (fe TSG)? I got a motorbike thingy from the fleamarked, not the best but ok for the price (€3).
Hi Jon, thanks for the video! What size did you buy in the killer knee & elbow pads? I’ve ordered a couple of different sizes but am unsure which to keep in case they stretch out as they become more worn. Any advice on this would be much appreciated. Thanks again!
@@JonBishopSkate Brill thanks the material on the elbow pads looks pretty hardcore so I had doubts if it would stretch, back in the post with those I think and I’ll get the XL! Thanks again
Have you heard of a company called spacebrace? They make some sick ankle brace that had loads of padding it also helps loads with ankle rolled as they are very supportive!
Hey dude Vans Half Cab Pro Fuse Ankle Guards Footprints Pain killer Socks Killer 187 Pro Knee and Elbow pads Triple 8 Tony Hawk Helmet Demon X Wrist Guards I hope that helps
@@JonBishopSkate thanks a lot, I'm a middle age guy learning too, and I was wondering about materials months ago, and then... I found your useful video 🤙🤙
hey fellow musician! Got into skateboarding during the pandemic and finally deciding to get some pads.. haha. If you ever need any music for youtube please feel free to use ours :) (this is the band account) - Jawny
Hey dude. Many thanks for the kind offer. I use the videos as a bit of an incentive to record my music, so at the moment I’m enjoying producing the whole lot in house.
Thanks for the video, I'm a middle-aged guy that has picked up the board after 25yrs and have just started to learn transition last year. I always use the full set when I'm on my local bowl but usually only wrist guards and knee pads when doing street skating. Was on the bowl yesterday and managed to land on my right hip (after pushing too hard on my slash grind) so was looking forward to your recommendation on the hip guard and surprise! you have your own custom invention. Have you tried any off-the-shelf ones that you'd recommend I try?
@@JonBishopSkate thanks for replying dude! That one is a bit pricey but it does look good with all the G Force stuff, will put it into consideration. Cheers
@@JonBishopSkate yeah any hard shell elbow will be too thick. Just looking for a soft elbow pad for when I'm street skating to take the edge off of falls.
“You faked all of these falls…” Ha jk i couldnt imagine filming, just to fall. And yes im getting back into skating and my balance sucks so getting my feet back under me i think pads will help me for sure.
You can always spot the middle aged dudes at the skatepark as soon you get there - they're the ones fully padded up! At 47, I always pad up. Slams are no fun at this age.
@2:30 - Shoes
@3:45 - Ankles
@4:45 - Shin/Socks
@5:39 - Knee Pads
@7:34 - Hips
@9:29 - Elbows
@9:53 - Wristgaurds
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thanks Nico , very helpful
People like you are heros
This is ace, thanks dude !!
9:53 - Wristguards
I have a video coming out soon on my own set up. I think you guys are going to find it very interesting.
Im 47 years old and Im just getting back, your videos inspire me because I am sure I am going to be eating concrete. Love your videos m8
Many thanks for checking in dude!
A complete guide like this was missing on youtube. Thanks for sharing Jon, keep posting!
Diego Perez many thanks dude, glad it hit the spot !!
I'm with you on the pads. Those falls you don't see coming, like unexpected wheel bite or that tiny piece of gravel always make me grateful for some padding
Quedgeley Shredders yeah, no right or wrong I guess, everyone has different ability, experience, personal circumstance. The younger dudes do seem to bounce a bit better!! I enjoy wearing no pads, but when I come a cropper I wonder what was I thinking lol !!
I bring a full set (helmet, knee+elbow+wrist guards) every time I skate but typically use different levels for different activities. A miniramp session would be with just wrist guards, and I'd add maybe for the knees or the elbows for certain tricks. Bowl or vert would be full gear.
Anders L-O nice one, good idea !!
I also use shin guards.
Helmet on Allways, i also use Knee pads, and wrist guards - Regarding Pro´s who use helmets, Andy Anderson comes to mind.
Jan Olsen yeah, AA and Mike V for sure ?
GREAT video once again! I wear pads, too, as I don't care about someone thinking I'm uncool, at least I'm getting less hurt bombing bad,
Yeah dude, I’ve been finding I’ve been having sessions at the local without pads, just doing the stuff I’m super confident with. That said I still feel like a fool for not wearing them when I come a cropper 😂
@@JonBishopSkate Honestly, protection looks cool in my opinion, Tony hawk rocks it, if you would wear protection to work, why not doing something you love.
@@lillyfitzgerald9996 yeah man, I enjoy the freedom and less sweaty option that no pads provides, but as a beginner it’s a balance between progression and injuries for me so it’s pads for bigger bowl and learning tricks. I’ve been having a go at the vert ramp recently and knee pads and helmets are the very minimum used by the top pro guys!!
As self-employed a 50 year old who has just taken up skating again after a 30+ year gap it's pads all the way for me! It was good seing your experiences on the kit you use and likes seeing your video on the visit to Transition Extreme in Aberdeen which is my local park.
You summed it up perfectly.. As middle aged guys we don't bounce like the younger lads so we need protection because lets face it when your learning new stuff you fall A LOT!! I remember dropping in on a 3ft ramp with no knee pads on and of course I failed and slammed and couldn't walk for a week I tried it again a week later this time with pads on and of course slammed but was able to get up and carry on with my session..Good pads and a helmet are essential in my eyes who cares if you don't look cool to the hip skaters! You don't look cool with a concussion! On a side note Bish I got the G Form knee and elbow pads they are expensive but really slim and great protection from impacts
Mark Rivers great words dude!! Yes the G - form stuff is ace. Anything with that D30 style, phone case stuff in is next level IMO ?!!
Are those the soft ones with no plastic? I'm about to build a 3.5ft high mini and basically learn to skate from scatch on it. I initially thought 187 pros would be good but they look overkill for a 3.5ft mini. The G form look probably a lot more suitable.
@@Asator66 yes they are soft with no plastic I wear them every time I skate and have had some really good falls and they are brilliant for impacts..I wouldn’t recommend them if your gonna be bailing using knee sliding but they are light and flexible I barely know I’m wearing them 👍
I'm not too old but not too young either. I sit right there at middle age. I believe everyone should wear protective gear simply because it's absurdly idiotic not to. I'm proud to say I agree with you.
I love all the custom mods you made to your gear Jon! 6 pairs of knee caps!?? 😲😱 I need to skate more 💕🙌
Ha, yeah and still found a way to fracture my patella 😂
Started skating at 31yrs and I wear at least a helmet. No matter what. It saved me some lifes.
Now I bought some pads after I messed up my left knee two times.
Watching this with ice on my wrist. 😂
I'm 33 and back at skating for around 6 months after 13 years off, and your videos have been hugely helpful for me, both in terms of relearning tricks and also picking the right gear/equipment. Love the channel!
Many thanks for tuning in dude!
With the crew of older fellas (and ladies) that skate around here, it almost seems cooler to wear pads than not to wear them. They’ve saved me quite a few times. I love my pads!
You rock Jon Bishop! Love your detailed explanations. Thank you!
I just bought a helmet and knee pads so I can full send when I skate this video is epic thanks
Good stuff !!
Another great vid. You take pads to whole new level. And I like that you are not afraid to use them- I skate so cautiously that I rarely fall even though I’m padded up. I like the ankle support idea as I broke my ankle in college skating a half pipe. My shoes were a half size too big and I caught my toe coming off a rock slide. Now I make damn well sure my shoes are tight! Tortoise pads make a great padded short.
This was just what I needed. Im going full protection to give me confidence.
Fantastic video. I'm in your age category and looking to get back into skating, really helpful to see your DIY upgrades. Thanks for sharing!
This is awesome! I am oddly fascinated with safety gear. I have added to my collection as well, based on my falls. So far I have a helmet, knee, wrist, elbow pads, as well as butt and hip pads, ankle pads, and shin guards.
Hi Jon. Love your enthusiasm mate. Another old skater here, 47 and now go skating with my son. I love helmets because they are uncool, I maul grab and mongo push too. It's great when your old, you never have to worry about being cool!
Ha, yeah totally I’m 46 so can’t think of anything worst than being cool 😃
I'm 24 and just learning how to skate. Thanks for this guide. I personally think I'll look stupid wearing a ton of PPE at the skatepark, but I'd rather look stupid than get injured. Plus I'm still learning and can't even ollie or shove it yet when there are kids half my age dropping vert and kickflipping with no PPE, so I'll look stupid regardless so I don't care.
Good stuff man, just do your thing and own it!! Skaters are a good bunch, they know how hard it is and how much it hurts! Other skaters will be stoked watching you pushing your own limits, no mater what those limits are !!
@@JonBishopSkate Appreciate the reply! Thanks!
30 years old, currently 1 month back into it. Knees, wrists and helmet every time i got out.
Thank you for this video, you gave me the last convincing I needed to order protective gear.
Just got back in to skateboarding at age 24, got a job and can't afford breaking my arm. I learned that the hard way last week😅 Lucky it was just a minor fractuur.
You just showed me that having fun and, riding good and keeping balance, is as good as possible with the protective gear as without.
Many thanks for tuning dude and wishing you a speedy recovery!!
@@JonBishopSkate thanks a lot, hope to be back on my board soon
I'm 48 and going to start again for the first time in years...something tells me I may need pads at least till I get my balance again!... Inspired my my favorite pros like Cab that are older than me and still skating...Tony Alva is 60 and still sneaking into backyard pools, that's a skateboarder!..
"I guess I'll just skate till the wheels fall off." - Tony Hawk
Really appreciate this video. I'm a long time skater - who is nearing the half way mark in years, and picked up some pads so I can hit the skate park ramps for the first time in over 25 years. I love the DIY mods in your equip. I didn't even think of hip padding... but think I am going to invest in that if I get serious about regular ramp drop ins and bowling runs. Cheers!
LoL I started skating 1 year ago and I accidently got almost identical setup, but with other products. I also have snowborder back protection :) Used it the first time I tired to grind a rail :) I say I like to wear all the protection.
Love my 187's and S1, good tip about the D30 stuff. As regards padding up , if you're not crashing, you're not trying hard enough...
Martin Pope nice one dude, yeah you got to find the limit !!
100% with you. Never wore pads in my youth but at 56 I can’t afford to miss work because I’ve broken my wrist. My pads Are 888s and do the job but I have also started adding things such as padded shorts. Killer 187’s do seem to be very popular. Better to be safe than sore 😄
Yeah dude, it’s obviously more free and comfy without pads. Now I’m getting more confident I’ve started enjoying a few spins on the backyard mini just doing the most simple tricks with no pads. Also a cruise round the bowl on the surf skate seems to be a fairly safe bet. I still wear a helmet and wrist guards 100% though just in case there is a freak incident such as hitting a stone or a scooter flying in over the edge??
@@JonBishopSkate I’ve noticed a few of your ‘pad free’ sessions and thought how brave you were being 😄 You may have seen it but the 2009 Dew Tour in Oregon featured a bowl comp and there was a huge divide there between pros in pads and locals without. Fantastic competition if you can find it on here.
I actually bought a surf skate last week after seeing one of your videos. A Two Bare Feet ‘A’ frame board and God’s teeth it feels weird. 😳
Nice one Jon! If you skate with pads, you live to skate another day! I am a Vans guy too, but I only buy the Pro's because they have the really comfy insole and the reinforced toe box. My go to's are half cabs or Sk8 hi. The new Rowan Zorillas are nice too. They do a Sk8 hi BMX which have a cup sole instead of vulcanised and they last much longer. I wouldn't say Vans are the best quality, but they have the most reliable sizing, which is perfect for buying online. I always buy in the sales to because you know they are gonna get thrashed. I bought 3 different styles of Adidas last year. All size 43, but each one was a completely different size! Really inconsistent.
I can recommend 187 Derby wrist guards. They have a plastic plate on the palm which is a better solution than the splint that fits in the pleather pockets. 5 bails on concrete and you have to get the gorilla tape out! The 187 derby wrist's don't have the splints on the top of the hands, but they last much longer. We have a mate who is a doctor and he said if you hit your hands hard enough to break them, you will probably break your forearm just above the wrist guards. It doesn't mean they are useless as they will protect all the little bones in your wrists and palms which are harder to fix.
I also wear forcefield impact shorts. They are a bit expensive, around £90, but the pads have similar tech the D3O and are removable so you can machine wash the shorts. They have snowboarding model, but I use the motorbike ones because the padding is for higher impacts. These are a real life saver against hippers. You know how those feel right?! They might be expensive, but I have got 6 years and counting out of mine. Great investment.
All the best, Rich in Sweden.
Nice one Rich
Thanks for the update.
Yeah, I use the sliders to disparate energy and move it to the elbow pad which is far more robust. With a bit a practice you can slide along quite a way on the knees and Elbows. I try not to put my hands down if I can !!
@@JonBishopSkate Yeah! I got my knee slides down to almost second nature. I think this is a really important technique that doesn't really get talked about. I wished I had learned and practiced this earlier. Maybe it would make a good video! The wrist guards and impact shorts are for suprise attacks! I've get plenty of those! 😬😖😵🤕
@@BlackMarketHoney it’s a great idea !!
Thanks so much for making the video
Boi you are welcome, I hope it helped?!
Jon Bishop ya I think I’m gonna get the 187s
Helmet. Since i bang my head really hard few years back and fortunately that's when i used a helmet at that time, i always put my helmets on. Last week i just hit my head really hard from 7.5 ft quarter straight to flat from the coping, luckly my helmets on. I wonder what will happened if i didn't put my helmet on last week. Got dizzy a little bit and got a bit bruise in my face but everything's alright. Got back up and skate again, all because i put my helmet on
Hey Jon, I’m really enjoying your videos. I can totally relate to you using pads, especially for the wrist. You’re a guitarplayer, I’m a drummer and can’t have anything happen to the wrists. That’s for sure! Keep up the great work man. Cheers from a 51 year old skater/drummer from Holland😊😎💪🛹🥁
Machiel Verhaar many thanks for tuning in and the great comments !! I can always spot the musicians and artists in the session as they’ll be wearing the wrist guards lol !!
Thanks for posting this bro
MonsterTVchannel many thanks for tuning in !!
Thank you for the video!
Just one thing I've noticed is that Tony Hawk didn't wear a triple 8 helmet in his 900 at age 48 video.
He is wearing a Birdhouse helmet (his own brand).
Yeah, I think he flips around sponsor wise, I still wear the Triple 8 Tony Hawk model, smashed my first one on the Vert, this is my second.
Thank you! that really looks like painless kit for skateboarding
You wear a shitload of pads but you have an even larger amount of gusto. Keep doing you Jon Bishop! I've been skating 36 years so really, i'm just here for the entertainment 🤘
Ha, yeah, I only really wear them for vert now, I still fall off as much though 😂
@@JonBishopSkate I'm the same... Ok don't tell anyone, but i wear cheeky little pair of hip pads whenever i skate a mini too 😂🤫😉Great call on the wrist protection BTW. I'm a digital artist (photography, painting in photoshop for weeks on end, etc). I broke the end of my radius in 5 places on my drawing arm while wearing a wrist guard. My Producer at the time put it pretty simply - "that wrist is your career". I HATE wearing them as I naturally move my wrists a lot when i skate, so getting used to them from day one as you're doing is only a good thing.
Making me feel like a peasant with just knee, elbow, wrist, and helmet. You got the whole body suit lol.
Gave you a like simply because when you were talking about getting hit in the ankles you didn't say you were angry or frustrated, instead you got "bored" of that - lol.
Really appreciate the in depth reviews.
Thanks once again for sharing your experience and insights Jon!
My top tip for shoes would be the Converse Boot (the model with padded ankle protection and thicker sole), their design resists better to toe wear than Vans Sk8 models, although I prefer the looks of the Vans. With them I wear running insoles and padded skate socks both from Decathlon, good stuff.
Keep up the great vids, happy skating!
andrewthompsonx great stuff !!
Great, practical review and guide from real skateboarding fan! This was missing so much on youtube. Love your work, keep it going! :)
Michał Gardeła many thanks for the kind comments!!
A timely watch as I am looking to invest in pads! Very useful info and thanks for creating it
Great to hear, many thanks for tuning in!
Am glad I discovered these. You have a knack in breaking down the trick and explaining it well
@@JonBishopSkate So I bought these knee and elbow pads
shop.rampworx.com/products/187-killer-pads-fly-knee-pads-red-white-blue?variant=12162212364378¤cy=GBP&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsNndyvaY6gIVxKsYCh2ARwbKEAQYASABEgIQUPD_BwE
I wanted to be different and be a little colourful! They're so comfy and give you a little more confidence.
Perfect timing, I've been looking for a review on hip protectors and helmet, thanks for sharing!!!
Helmet is a must for me , I know pro-skater Andy Anderson use helmet
Olito Nottero nice one, go for it !!
Nice video.. I don´t see any problem on wearing a helmet... Actually it protects the head !!! It is inteligent and cool !
Yeah dude, can’t afford a damaged head !!
@@JonBishopSkate Me neither !!!
*getting hit in ankle*
Him:I got quite bored of that
I laughed so hard,great video man!
Ha, the novelty soon wears off !!
Awesome video. Lots of great advices. Thank you!
If you don't need your head or you don't mind a headache, don't bother with the helmet. Great video ;)
Wow I never thought about wearing hip pads or socks with shin guards. Thanks
Ha, not all needed for every session, hip pads for the bowl, shin pads for flip tricks, I mix it up a bit 😂
Wrist guards I use triple 8 hired hands .. Its wrist saver and gloves put together ..
Yeah, I like the look of those !!
This is great, thank you!
I think you are brilliant. I wish they had better designs for the hip and tail bones and the SHIN GUARDS design specially for skateboarders
Many thanks for tuning in dude !
This video should be required viewing for over 30 skaters. Aside from the obvious that the serious injuries that often result from fluke accidents in skateboarding can impact your ability to do your job or take care of loved ones, one of the worst aspects of injury is being off your board. I was doing a slappy boardslide on a double sided curb a few weeks ago, got a couple of really good ones, and the third one I stuck and slammed forward (I was already rocking a helmet every session). If it had been a 50-50 I would have been able to roll sideways or slam on my butt, but on a backside boardslide, you can really mess yourself because you are facing forward. I could barely wipe my own hindquarters the next day and I've had trouble typing and playing guitar for the last couple weeks. I'm not going to do sliding tricks without wrist and elbow protection again. I also got the bumsavers and covert knee pads to wear underneath my jeans. I am not interested in looking cool (there is literally nothing I could do for that, and there's no reward! who am I trying to impress?), I am interested in continuing to skate well into my 40s, 50s, and 60s. Furthermore, without pads, I don't do stuff that risks falling, and as a result don't progress in my skating. I'd rather progress and not get injured than avoid the slight discomfort of wearing pads (that anyone can get used to once you wear them often enough).
Yeah dude, it’s all personal preference, but I too am a father, bread winner and guitar player so wrist guards and a helmet are mandatory. I’m also 47 so I can also think of nothing worse than being considered cool😆 I like the feeling of bare knees so I dabble with that, but it’s only for sessions where I’m not gonna be knee sliding? The hip pads have been a saviour. My hips seem particularly boney and even the mellowest roll ends up in the bruises of doom.
The way you're standing and where you're standing, I felt like I'm watching a wood working video hahaha
Ha, 😂
Great video, keep up the good work! (I am now rocking pretty much all of that gear and am excited to get back to the bowl with a little more confidence!)
awesome video 🤘🏽
Great video! I was worried to learn skating at 30 but feeling good about it now. Also a guitarist sold on wrist guards.
Burton impact shorts work a treat indeed. You'll think it's expensive until you fall and they save your ass.
I wear Globe Sabres because they're actually wide enough for my EEE wide foot but they fit perfectly with extra socks and ankle supports.
The triple 8 helmets didn't fit because my head is more roundish and no matter how I set the padding it would be flopping around in one area and pinching in another or completely loose or tight. Going to try an S-one.
Full on helmet and pads. Is the best. Even tho I feel knee pads are uncomfortable
Great video! 34 year old trying to get back into skating. I will definitely be all padded up lol
Good video Mate
ElYuainXD thanks dude, had a few requests so thought I’d put it out there
Awesome Jon, are you a tailor for your day job? love the repairs and mods haha
Ha ha, suits you sir 😂
Great info & video .
Bro, love the vids my man. You fucking legend. Thanks. 43 here and learning. Love it. Feels like I am 13 again. But, hey, gotta go to work on next day. Love rocking the pads at the park.
Been skating for quite some time and I'm at the point where I'm older now, and my falls are way harder, as I am going for bigger tricks on bigger walls. Need pads now.
I work in a skilled nursing facility (nursing home) we call those hip pads "hippies" and the pants that hold them "hipsters." 😂😂😂
Ha ha, They are a game changer for sure !
My choice for skate shoes are the basic black suede skate shoe from Decathelon. I bought them just as I was there and they have turned out to be super touch and long lasting, offer plenty of grip, ths soul is a little more cusioned that Vans and the tongue is also cusioned and protects the top.of the foot if bailing on transition.
Well worth a punt and really reasonably priced. I would like to hear your opinion John.
Love the channel, just ordered ankle guards after another chunk removed from just below the bone...ouch.
Many thanks for the info dude!
Love the modified gear !
Thanks!
Hi Jon, could you tell me where did you get the extra D3O pad for the demon wrist savers? I had some nasty slams on my left wrist and I feel if I have another one, won't skate again let alone play guitar!!!
Hey dude
Yeah the D30 has been great in the wrist guards, I also recommend the neoprene gasget idea to go under the wrist guards, tbh that’s the most effective upgrade as it makes the whole wrist guard fit properly all over with the extra support from the neoprene.
All the names of the products are in the vids I think? I race sailboats so the D30 is by a company called Musto and it’s designed as Skiff racing body armour. Just search Musto D30 and select the most cost effective piece. I thing I just cut up a back lumber pad? That one pad made the extra Achilles pads and wrist guard bits. It may seem bit overkill
, but I play guitar for my job so I have to manage risks as best as possible??
Big thumbs up. This is a great video and I am always open to new ideas on how not to end up hurt. Some links to some of that gear would be nice. I don’t know if it is all available in the states or not, you mention some brands I’m not aware of. Will have to investigate the ankle gear for sure, wrist and hip are of interest too. Lots of great ideas. Keep up the good work. Glad I found your videos.
Superglue your stitching in wear areas will keep the shoes together without an ugly piece of tape that leaves sticky residue everywhere.
Yeah dude, I have since upgraded to Shoo Goo. The tape worked well, but the goo is more effective!
It would be cool if you started your own gear company with products that already have all of your modifications applied stock.
Nice one dude!
Never thought of that, thanks for the input !
Such good content on this channel!
Many thanks for tuning in dude !
Really appreciate the effort and in depth walk through of your gear. Any ideas where I can get the hip protectors you added to your shorts in the UK? Or the extra musto d30 pads cos the ones I can seem to find (recoil for shooting) seem to have a honeycomb pattern and seemless sturdy.
My girlfriend sent me to the shops to get her some pads. Short story. Im single again with a space pair of pads.
You dodged a bullet. If she can't stick it out for a trick she will always give up on her relationships.
😅 watching this while being relegated to couch for two weeks because my board found my Achilles heal before I found it and imprinted a nice footprint there.😳😂
Ohh and helmet; off course. I wish some mayor brands would step up and simply stop advertising without helmets in any form.
How did you feel wearing skateboard protection?
nice one Jon. obviously yes to helmet! even if you wear nothing else, wear a helmet! you can recover from anything except cracking your skull. also when done right, helmets look awesome.
but do yourself a favour and dont buy a black helmet, it gets so damn hot in the sun, buy a white or bright coloured one, thank me later :P
That slam in your intro gets me every time Jon, and I get why you wear pads(I was surprised to find out how many) but for me coming home with bloody shins and grazed elbows is part of skating. I do gear up for big bowls though, they're no joke. If I may ask a question. Do you ever just skate down the street unpadded?
Hey Dude
Yeah, only really pad up if I’m trying something new or a bit risky. Been enjoying getting out and feeling the freedom of no protection on the curbs and also a bit in the bowl. It certainly sharpens the focus!!
I dabble with no pads in the bowl at the end of this one th-cam.com/video/BTJFbv3-C8E/w-d-xo.html
No pads for the street stuff
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Hey Jon, Do you have any hints or tips on how to get the right sized knee and elbow pads from 187?
Also have you tried Vans Skate Sk8-Hi’s(formerly known as Sk8-Hi Pros)?
Hey Dude
Many thanks for tuning in!
There should be a size chart on the 187 site so you can measure up ?
I’ve allways used the Half Cab, and the full Cab? The full cab is basically a slightly more padded Sk8-Hi ??
9:50 wrist guards , see Niko's comment below for all content list
Thanks for the video. I ride with protection gear.
A) How do you manage the stink? (here and there washing, but after 2 sessions it stinks again)
B) Why no regular skate crashpant (fe TSG)? I got a motorbike thingy from the fleamarked, not the best but ok for the price (€3).
Yeah man, the stink is real 😂 I use disinfectant spray and dry them in the sun, but it doesn’t really work, stinky Mc Stink !!
Hi Jon, thanks for the video! What size did you buy in the killer knee & elbow pads? I’ve ordered a couple of different sizes but am unsure which to keep in case they stretch out as they become more worn. Any advice on this would be much appreciated. Thanks again!
Hey Dude
I just got the XL, I haven’t noticed any stretching, still fitting fine ?!!
@@JonBishopSkate Brill thanks the material on the elbow pads looks pretty hardcore so I had doubts if it would stretch, back in the post with those I think and I’ll get the XL! Thanks again
@@JonBishopSkate the XL elbow pads came yesterday, I took em out 4 a spin I’m 6ft 1 with not the biggest arms and the fit is spot on 👍
I commit more when I have pads on
good vid cheers mate
Have you heard of a company called spacebrace? They make some sick ankle brace that had loads of padding it also helps loads with ankle rolled as they are very supportive!
Liam Ross sounds great, thanks for the share, I’ll be sure to check them out !!
Jon Bishop no worries, loving the vids!
Awesome! Thanks man. Could you please post the brands and features? I really will apreciate it. 🤙
Hey dude
Vans Half Cab Pro
Fuse Ankle Guards
Footprints Pain killer Socks
Killer 187 Pro Knee and Elbow pads
Triple 8 Tony Hawk Helmet
Demon X Wrist Guards
I hope that helps
@@JonBishopSkate thanks a lot, I'm a middle age guy learning too, and I was wondering about materials months ago, and then... I found your useful video 🤙🤙
hey fellow musician! Got into skateboarding during the pandemic and finally deciding to get some pads.. haha. If you ever need any music for youtube please feel free to use ours :)
(this is the band account) - Jawny
Hey dude. Many thanks for the kind offer. I use the videos as a bit of an incentive to record my music, so at the moment I’m enjoying producing the whole lot in house.
Jon Bishop totally makes sense! Thanks again for the protective knowledge.
Thanks for the video, I'm a middle-aged guy that has picked up the board after 25yrs and have just started to learn transition last year. I always use the full set when I'm on my local bowl but usually only wrist guards and knee pads when doing street skating.
Was on the bowl yesterday and managed to land on my right hip (after pushing too hard on my slash grind) so was looking forward to your recommendation on the hip guard and surprise! you have your own custom invention.
Have you tried any off-the-shelf ones that you'd recommend I try?
Hey dude, yeah the burton snowboard shorts are ace. I just beefed them up, but that’s not completely necessary 😂
@@JonBishopSkate thanks for replying dude! That one is a bit pricey but it does look good with all the G Force stuff, will put it into consideration. Cheers
I use that same gorilla tape and my shoes are done once there’s holes in the bottoms
Yeah, me too, I’d be interested in trying some non sand paper, DKL grip tape stuff ?
I'm still runnig cheap pads. I think the 187 pro gear is the next upgrade.
Ryan Leahy yeah, plenty of options out there! Replaceable caps and the butterfly fixture is a worthwhile upgrade to look out for IMO?
Jon Bishop - sponsored by Gorilla tape
Ha, and shoo goo !!
Looking for some soft low profile elbow pads . Triple 8 exo skin elbow, or footprint street elbow pads if anyone has tried them.
I use the 187 slim nowadays. It’s really good protection, but fits under a jumper for colder sessions, the 187 pros are too big for that ?
@@JonBishopSkate yeah any hard shell elbow will be too thick. Just looking for a soft elbow pad for when I'm street skating to take the edge off of falls.
@@32srt32 yeah, D30 or G Form could be the way then. Flexible and thin, but goes hard on impact ?
“You faked all of these falls…”
Ha jk i couldnt imagine filming, just to fall. And yes im getting back into skating and my balance sucks so getting my feet back under me i think pads will help me for sure.
No fake falls, I’m not very good so no need to fake it.
How do they smell?
Awful 😂 I wash them as much as possible!
You can always spot the middle aged dudes at the skatepark as soon you get there - they're the ones fully padded up! At 47, I always pad up. Slams are no fun at this age.
Ha, it’s all too true !!
Helmets might not be the coolest thing, but being a vegetable from a head injury isn't either!!
K D yes indeed, I quite like the look, it covers my bold head and I feel like a vert skater from the 80s lol !!