The 99th Infantry Division suffered greatly in the Ardennes Offensive. They faced Kampfgruppe Peiper and then the main body of the 6th Panzer Army as they defended the Elsenborn Ridge.
The first German officer appears to be Luftwaffe, note the 4 badges on the left side of his tunic, the next two photos appear to be the same Heer officer, note 3 badges on the left side of the tunic. My guess would be that they are captured photos, not posed for the GI.
Great film today, many thanks to our veterans. That was notable to be able to see all those names and the towns they were from on that captured flag. So much history.
Model 1910/22 is developed for the Kingdom of Yugoslavia (9 mm short/kurz or .380 auto) and with the shorter model, Gavrilo Princip shot Franz Ferdinand is Sarajevo...
It's not made by "FN Browning"... It's made by the Fabrique Nationale (FN) d'Armes de Guerre in Herstal, Belgium. And it's obviously a Browning patent.
Two different German officers. One is Luftwaffe, the other is Heer. Different cap badges and different decorations. Both look like Leutnants from the shoulder boards, possibly captains, but it's impossible to say what branch of the Army the Heer (army) officer belongs to in a monochrome photo. Can't see the 'Waffenfarb' or colour of the piping of the Army officer.
Excellent and educational video, Tom. As always! 👍 Just wanted to comment on the officer the first gun assumable was taken from: I doubt that the officer shown at 4:40 and the one at 4:51 is the same guy!? The first picture id a bit blurry on the video, but the hat and the tunic indicates a luftwaffe officer. He also wears 4 medals. The officer at 4:51 is clearly an army officer with more buttons on the tunic, army collars and only three medals. But hey, the gun COULD have belonged to one of these two anyway!! 😎👍 Thanks again.
History Channel why have you not picked up Tom yet for his new show "I like Guns from the Past, what's wrong with that?". I think its a catchy title. Seriously Tom brings so much value to the channel with his insight, knowledge, story telling and humor. Don't kid yourselves these things are not easy to create. Thanks Tom. I wish I could buy something. :) Tod
The picture at 5:09 shows a Heer (Army) officer, probably a hauptmann (captain). His buttons are the painted pot-metal type rather than the fancy shiny ones, so he's not very high in the chain of command. The photo at 4:44 shows a Luftwaffe (Air Force) officer, probably an oberst (colonel) or higher because he's wearing a dagger, which as I understand it, was only authorized for field-grade officers. Too bad the picture is such poor quality because Luftwaffe uniforms show the rank on the collar as well as on the epaulets. The Luftwaffe man also has a lot of decorations, including what might be an Iron Cross, 1st class. (Note the neck ribbon in the buttonhole.) The IC1 medal was worn on the tunic below the breast pocket on the left, and there's something pinned to his tunic at that position. The IC2 and the Knight's Cross medals were worn around the neck, though IC2 winners wore the medal only for photographs, not during actual duty, just the ribbon in the buttonhole. Not so the KC medal. Its winners wore them even in combat. The man shown at 5:09 has no evidence of an Iron Cross award.
@@mrdiplomat9018 Thanks I did non know, because in French it is "mat" :) but "matte" in English looks more French than in French itself :):) Anyway, thank You.
It is sad because Bob and his comrades thought they were making the world a better place but when you look around today it makes you think that maybe General Patton was right and that we fought and defeated the wrong enemy in Europe.
At a minimum, the allied forces should not have stopped Berlin and kept pushing to Stalingrad......And if it wasn't for the brave soldiers of the Wehrmacht and Waffen SS all of Europe would've fallen to Soviet Communist rule.
do you have any old beater frames kicking around? I have many slides but no frames or lowers for old milsurp pistols?I dont care if they are rough>?and of course ffl. I have at least 6 pistols I need beater frames for
hello sir. you inspire me alot and i hope to review guns like how you do but you didnt exactly mentione a lot of info i would enjoy to hear about like how rounds it holds or whats it fire mechanisms. i like guns not for their history or how strong they are i prefer to look into how where they made or how does they fire how fast they fire and what ranges they can be use. i mean half of these are very easy to pull up out of google but i like to watch you and hear about them some times. and i over all love your way of explantion
7.65 BM? The B is likely 'Browning' as the round in Europe was generally referred to as '7.65 Browning'. Not sure about the 'M' maybe 'Model'. Again you would see '7.65 Browning Model', but usually connected with the FN 1910/1922.
Hi! Somehow long long ago one of these guns came to my hands. It belonged to a high navy officer that died during one night in his home, due to a brain trouble. He left some curious firearms, something rare in the country I am in. One of them was this model F.N. with waffenstamps, and plastic grips ( or they looked like it ). It was in an incredible good conditions except for the magazine that was missing😢. I belive it could be fired with success, but no one did that. How it ended here in Portugal, I do not know.
Hey Tom, you've said in previous videos that you've been collecting Lugers for 30+ years---do you ever wonder how many Lugers that you acquire and sell are ones that you've previously acquired and sold over your career as a dealer? 🤔 Surely you don't keep a detailed log of every serial number of every example that you've come into possession of for 30 years...
A note to 7, 65 Browning ( .32 ACP) used by german military and armed officials of civilian administration. In 1892 German military used the at its introduction outdated Revolvers M79 and M83 in 10,6 mm Deutsche Ordonnanz. German police? Was not centralized , every state had its own police, mostly in towns the town police ( and especially in larger towns few detectives) and in villages and small towns the rural police. Also in imperial Germany every village and small town had relicts of ,old police' ( town criers, nightwatchmen, field guards). Most uniformed policemen carried ( like Great Brittain), no firearm, only a saber ( short by foot police, long by mounted police). Now in 1892 highest real prussian policeman hold a speech in prussian Parlament: More and more criminals use firearms, we policemen also need firearms! This caused three things: a) Up to 1913 every regular german policeman got a firearm. b) Civilians need a Waffenschein ( CCW licence) c) Blankguns had been up to 2008 licencefree. The firearms used by police, customs and tax service had been not regulated. Pistols had been in 9mm Parabellum/ Luger ( customs service), 7, 65 Browning ( police), revolvers , used by some Departements either in .320 or 10,6 german ordonnance ( some rural bavarian policemen vsrried Werder pistol, single shot 11,5 mm Werder up to 1918!). After 1919 this revolvers came out of use. The pistols in 7,65 Browning had been in both worldwars only , Hilfspistolen' ( Auxillary-/ Substitute pistols) , because there had been not enough pistols in 9mm Parabellum/ Luger. The 9mm Browning kurz/ .380 ACP was in Germany not common, and the military prefered 7,65 Browning , because in 1"/ 25 mm wood board test, 7,65 had better penetration.
You said the 1922 (sometimes referred to as 1910/22) was also produced in 9mm but that's a little misleading. They were produced in 7.65mm (.32 acp) and 9mm Kurz, abbreviated as 9mmk (.380acp). While 9mm is technically true, to my knowledge it was never produced in 9x19mm caliber.
Do the American signatures increase or decrease the value of the Nazi flag? I have also heard that the really big flags are worth less because they are impossible to display. I have a nice 3'x5' Nazi flag my father brought back in 1945.
Some years ago, the owner of a small german police museum died. I often visited his small museum. He had a lot of nongerman police headgear. One of this was a helmet of an italian town police. This town polices in Italy are not real police , more descendants of nightwatchmen and towncriers. The helmet was similar to british ,Pith helmet'. There had been the ball pen signatures of the town policemen on the helmet.
I should know the answer to this already, but…🤷♂ You mentioned that the “straw” color on one of the small parts had probably worn off over time. That seems a little odd to me because as I’m sure you are aware, the straw color (or the blue) are a result of the tempering process, while the steel is being heat treated. I would have to believe that the tempered color would be deeper into the material than just the very outside surface and would not be able to be rubbed, polished or just worn off over time, like all plating will do, given enough time and wear. Am I wrong about that? Anyone?
@@brittakriep2938 as much as I love the German language, let's face it it is a dying language. But to answer your question only partially. I'm sure I'm as lost in German as you are in the Irish language.
@@tiredlawdog : I come from a region of Germany, which was before roman conguest a celtic region. May be you can in Internet do some research about Heidengraben, Heuneburg and Ipf. I , Brittas boyfriend, prefer my swabian dialect over Standard German. Now i , a conservative, patriotic german, am so angry about german gouvernement, that i no longed support politicians.
Ok why didn't u take the model 4 apart? If any doubt about its finnish you take them apart and show us the often missed parts. Such a rare gun with your rare knowledge.............
I dont like the shorts but u must keep up with the times. As for guns and historic guns it seems completely antithetical ! Its about the story and the provenance. Fuck the algorithms that is exactly the point of your business.
aaahh, ok, first 5 seconds there's a blutflag in my face. hhhihh.. long story, No ethical amateur collector has a legitimate reason to possess those things, Military-specific researchers and historians, Yes - someone like a "State Senator Buck Snort ( R- Deerfield, Va.)? YOUR local Sheriff? Who has any purpose in having those things?
Great video. My Father was a SSgt with the 99th Inf Div, 395th K Comp. He served from 42-46, receiving the Bronze Star during his service.
The German officer shown at 4:45 is Luftwaffe. The one shown at 4:53 is Heer (Army). You have two different German officers going on there.
The 99th Infantry Division suffered greatly in the Ardennes Offensive. They faced Kampfgruppe Peiper and then the main body of the 6th Panzer Army as they defended the Elsenborn Ridge.
The first German officer appears to be Luftwaffe, note the 4 badges on the left side of his tunic, the next two photos appear to be the same Heer officer, note 3 badges on the left side of the tunic. My guess would be that they are captured photos, not posed for the GI.
Breast Eagles and collar tabs are obvious and confirm your statement.
Hey there Tom, That was an excellent video and I enjoyed it very much. Good job.
Great film today, many thanks to our veterans.
That was notable to be able to see all those names and the towns they were from on that captured flag. So much history.
Splendiferous presentation.
looking at that signed flag gives me a lot of nostalgia (of times I never lived)
Wow great video. Felt like 5 videos in one!
Model 1910/22 is developed for the Kingdom of Yugoslavia (9 mm short/kurz or .380 auto) and with the shorter model, Gavrilo Princip shot Franz Ferdinand is Sarajevo...
It's not made by "FN Browning"...
It's made by the Fabrique Nationale (FN) d'Armes de Guerre in Herstal, Belgium.
And it's obviously a Browning patent.
“BM.. bowel movement” 💩, gold 😂
Big words!!! 🤯
awesome video, love these pistols..
Thanks Bob!
Stupendously eloquently spoken Tom
Amazing gun comeback and others.....Thanks Tom.....Shoe🇺🇸
Absolutely fascinating.
Two different German officers. One is Luftwaffe, the other is Heer. Different cap badges and different decorations. Both look like Leutnants from the shoulder boards, possibly captains, but it's impossible to say what branch of the Army the Heer (army) officer belongs to in a monochrome photo. Can't see the 'Waffenfarb' or colour of the piping of the Army officer.
Thanks for the vocabulary lesson. Also I love the bring backs, especially the signed flag. The gun is a very close second though.
Excellent and educational video, Tom. As always! 👍 Just wanted to comment on the officer the first gun assumable was taken from: I doubt that the officer shown at 4:40 and the one at 4:51 is the same guy!? The first picture id a bit blurry on the video, but the hat and the tunic indicates a luftwaffe officer. He also wears 4 medals. The officer at 4:51 is clearly an army officer with more buttons on the tunic, army collars and only three medals. But hey, the gun COULD have belonged to one of these two anyway!! 😎👍 Thanks again.
I’m flabbergasted!
Thanks
History Channel why have you not picked up Tom yet for his new show "I like Guns from the Past, what's wrong with that?". I think its a catchy title. Seriously Tom brings so much value to the channel with his insight, knowledge, story telling and humor. Don't kid yourselves these things are not easy to create. Thanks Tom. I wish I could buy something. :) Tod
They only like fake pawn stories
Ur my authority on walthers step up!
The picture at 5:09 shows a Heer (Army) officer, probably a hauptmann (captain). His buttons are the painted pot-metal type rather than the fancy shiny ones, so he's not very high in the chain of command. The photo at 4:44 shows a Luftwaffe (Air Force) officer, probably an oberst (colonel) or higher because he's wearing a dagger, which as I understand it, was only authorized for field-grade officers. Too bad the picture is such poor quality because Luftwaffe uniforms show the rank on the collar as well as on the epaulets. The Luftwaffe man also has a lot of decorations, including what might be an Iron Cross, 1st class. (Note the neck ribbon in the buttonhole.) The IC1 medal was worn on the tunic below the breast pocket on the left, and there's something pinned to his tunic at that position. The IC2 and the Knight's Cross medals were worn around the neck, though IC2 winners wore the medal only for photographs, not during actual duty, just the ribbon in the buttonhole. Not so the KC medal. Its winners wore them even in combat. The man shown at 5:09 has no evidence of an Iron Cross award.
This Krieghoff is a sweetheart!
I just LOVE the mat finish inside "the ear"… can't help it, even if it is German (I'm joking).
THANKS for showing!
It’s “matte”, fyi 🌈
@@mrdiplomat9018 Thanks I did non know, because in French it is "mat" :)
but "matte" in English looks more French than in French itself :):)
Anyway, thank You.
Dagger boys traffic got rear pounded @ max 😂
It is sad because Bob and his comrades thought they were making the world a better place but when you look around today it makes you think that maybe General Patton was right and that we fought and defeated the wrong enemy in Europe.
At a minimum, the allied forces should not have stopped Berlin and kept pushing to Stalingrad......And if it wasn't for the brave soldiers of the Wehrmacht and Waffen SS all of Europe would've fallen to Soviet Communist rule.
And I should've married the prom queen 🙄
looks like now there's a chance for things to change :)
Thank s Tom for your short!!!!
And I also like 22 short !!!
LoL🎉😊
😂😂😂😂😂😂 I am literally waiting to finish this video so I can start the dishes! 😂😂😂😂😂
do you have any old beater frames kicking around? I have many slides but no frames or lowers for old milsurp pistols?I dont care if they are rough>?and of course ffl. I have at least 6 pistols I need beater frames for
Thanks for sharing.
These two destroyed tanks were German Panthers
I was indeed doing the dishes while watching this, how did you know? 😛
Whats that front piece with some kind of spring in the browning fn? What it's the purpose?
Great video as always. However, I am a little concerned as to how you knew that I needed to do the dishes before my wife gets home. 🤔
hello sir. you inspire me alot and i hope to review guns like how you do but you didnt exactly mentione a lot of info i would enjoy to hear about like how rounds it holds or whats it fire mechanisms. i like guns not for their history or how strong they are i prefer to look into how where they made or how does they fire how fast they fire and what ranges they can be use. i mean half of these are very easy to pull up out of google but i like to watch you and hear about them some times. and i over all love your way of explantion
7.65 BM? The B is likely 'Browning' as the round in Europe was generally referred to as '7.65 Browning'. Not sure about the 'M' maybe 'Model'. Again you would see '7.65 Browning Model', but usually connected with the FN 1910/1922.
Hi! Somehow long long ago one of these guns came to my hands. It belonged to a high navy officer that died during one night in his home, due to a brain trouble. He left some curious firearms, something rare in the country I am in. One of them was this model F.N. with waffenstamps, and plastic grips ( or they looked like it ). It was in an incredible good conditions except for the magazine that was missing😢. I belive it could be fired with success, but no one did that. How it ended here in Portugal, I do not know.
love your content, i live in Harrisburg, hoping one day to check out your place of business, i would like to start collecting older firearms
I am deeply over whelmed!!!
Hey Tom, you've said in previous videos that you've been collecting Lugers for 30+ years---do you ever wonder how many Lugers that you acquire and sell are ones that you've previously acquired and sold over your career as a dealer? 🤔 Surely you don't keep a detailed log of every serial number of every example that you've come into possession of for 30 years...
A note to 7, 65 Browning ( .32 ACP) used by german military and armed officials of civilian administration. In 1892 German military used the at its introduction outdated Revolvers M79 and M83 in 10,6 mm Deutsche Ordonnanz. German police? Was not centralized , every state had its own police, mostly in towns the town police ( and especially in larger towns few detectives) and in villages and small towns the rural police. Also in imperial Germany every village and small town had relicts of ,old police' ( town criers, nightwatchmen, field guards). Most uniformed policemen carried ( like Great Brittain), no firearm, only a saber ( short by foot police, long by mounted police). Now in 1892 highest real prussian policeman hold a speech in prussian Parlament: More and more criminals use firearms, we policemen also need firearms! This caused three things: a) Up to 1913 every regular german policeman got a firearm. b) Civilians need a Waffenschein ( CCW licence) c) Blankguns had been up to 2008 licencefree.
The firearms used by police, customs and tax service had been not regulated. Pistols had been in 9mm Parabellum/ Luger ( customs service), 7, 65 Browning ( police), revolvers , used by some Departements either in .320 or 10,6 german ordonnance ( some rural bavarian policemen vsrried Werder pistol, single shot 11,5 mm Werder up to 1918!). After 1919 this revolvers came out of use.
The pistols in 7,65 Browning had been in both worldwars only , Hilfspistolen' ( Auxillary-/ Substitute pistols) , because there had been not enough pistols in 9mm Parabellum/ Luger. The 9mm Browning kurz/ .380 ACP was in Germany not common, and the military prefered 7,65 Browning , because in 1"/ 25 mm wood board test, 7,65 had better penetration.
You said the 1922 (sometimes referred to as 1910/22) was also produced in 9mm but that's a little misleading. They were produced in 7.65mm (.32 acp) and 9mm Kurz, abbreviated as 9mmk (.380acp). While 9mm is technically true, to my knowledge it was never produced in 9x19mm caliber.
Do the American signatures increase or decrease the value of the Nazi flag? I have also heard that the really big flags are worth less because they are impossible to display. I have a nice 3'x5' Nazi flag my father brought back in 1945.
Some years ago, the owner of a small german police museum died. I often visited his small museum. He had a lot of nongerman police headgear. One of this was a helmet of an italian town police. This town polices in Italy are not real police , more descendants of nightwatchmen and towncriers. The helmet was similar to british ,Pith helmet'. There had been the ball pen signatures of the town policemen on the helmet.
I'd never sell it so who cares about the price
I should know the answer to this already, but…🤷♂
You mentioned that the “straw” color on one of the small parts had probably worn off over time. That seems a little odd to me because as I’m sure you are aware, the straw color (or the blue) are a result of the tempering process, while the steel is being heat treated. I would have to believe that the tempered color would be deeper into the material than just the very outside surface and would not be able to be rubbed, polished or just worn off over time, like all plating will do, given enough time and wear. Am I wrong about that? Anyone?
I had to pause the video several times while looking for the dictionary.
Why? You don' t unterstand german?
@@brittakriep2938 as much as I love the German language, let's face it it is a dying language. But to answer your question only partially. I'm sure I'm as lost in German as you are in the Irish language.
@@tiredlawdog : I come from a region of Germany, which was before roman conguest a celtic region. May be you can in Internet do some research about Heidengraben, Heuneburg and Ipf. I , Brittas boyfriend, prefer my swabian dialect over Standard German. Now i , a conservative, patriotic german, am so angry about german gouvernement, that i no longed support politicians.
Ok why didn't u take the model 4 apart? If any doubt about its finnish you take them apart and show us the often missed parts. Such a rare gun with your rare knowledge.............
I'm sad there are few German guns in that condition here in Germany.
R.J. = current day DOJ
Having a BM is much better than having ED!
Just saying.. 😂😎
A whole bunch of photos and yapping of everything except the pistol in question.
brevity
Hello. Can you make video about CZ-38 . That is rare and very ugly gun make only in 40-50.000 pieces .
Eclectic not egeletic = varied
I can't stand tiktok or youtube shorts. Tiktok users have no attention span and are just as unintelligent and uncouth in real life.
I dont like the shorts but u must keep up with the times. As for guns and historic guns it seems completely antithetical ! Its about the story and the provenance. Fuck the algorithms that is exactly the point of your business.
hides out the war they are cowards.
US didn't fight the war
Yes. And the earth is flat
aaahh, ok, first 5 seconds there's a blutflag in my face. hhhihh.. long story, No ethical amateur collector has a legitimate reason to possess those things, Military-specific researchers and historians, Yes - someone like a "State Senator Buck Snort ( R- Deerfield, Va.)? YOUR local Sheriff? Who has any purpose in having those things?
Because we can. We won the war and destroyed the Nazi regime.