JFK deleted scenes w/Oliver Stone commentary
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2024
- NOTE: These deleted scenes & extended parts are not in the theatrical or director's cut of the film
Director: Oliver Stone
Cast: Kevin Costner, Kevin Bacon, Tommy Lee Jones, Joe Pesci, Laurie Metcalf, Gary Oldman, Michael Rooker, Jay O. Sanders, Sissy Spacek, Jack Lemmon, Walter Matthau, Donald Sutherland, John Candy - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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I was 12 years old when the Republic of the United States was ended. I saw Lee Harvey Oswald shot on the live TV broadcast, my father so stunned he had no time to censor my view but instead calling out to my mother in disbelief.
I was eighteen when I arrived in Vietnam, spending my 19th and 21st birthday in Vietnam.
Returned to a changed nation into which I never fit in.
April 30 1975 found me on the telephone placing an international phone call to Saigon to my college roommate's family in Saigon when the call went dead, the operater came back on and informed us the Trans Pacific cable to Vietnam had been cut off.
Today I and my sisters visited my parents' gravesite to visit and to assure that the placque noting my father's combat service in the Korean War was placed.
And now, August 15, 2021, Kabul has fallen.
Perhaps this American Empire dressed in the trappings of our long dead Republic shall fall too.
Thank you Oliver Stone. I too served in the Central Highlands.
It’s the fate of older generations to live with the landmarks and scars of History…. Let’s hope the younger ones will be spared such a burden!
@Lynn Wood I'm glad you made it back home from Vietnam ,19 is very young to serve in war ,I remember a song released in 1985 called "19" by a singer Paul Hartcastle , it said the average age of the combat soldier in WW2 was 26 ,in Vietnam it was 19 .Respects to you.
Thank you for serving. Your bravery and the bravery of countless men has been betrayed but not belittled. You fought for all the right reasons, but those reasons and your motivations were betrayed by lies.
Our servicemen and women are some of the best of us and in their honor we should stop the empire that operates in the interests of elites.
I had the same experience, watched Oswald die on TV and got my draft letter at 19. It was a hell of a time to grow up.
I felt the same after 911. When has the government of the US ever told the truth about anything?
Man portraying Justice Warren is the REAL Jim Garrison.
Jim Garrison could no hold Earl warren jock strap lol
@@randyharris3175 Why would he EW was murderer
An American hero, truly, we love you Jim Garrison.
@@randyharris3175 You fuckin idiot !
@@duke4384 that’s definitely Garrison Reccognise his voice
I was in Vietnam for 21 months. Oliver Stone is one of my heroes.
Much obliged for this video.
These 'deleted' scenes should all be added to a new 'JFK' redux version. Just like 'Apocalypse Now' was later produced with allegedly every deleted sequence from it's original release. It may make the first JFK version over 4 hours long, yet North Americans and perhaps the world will seek out and watch the new movie in its entirety. These scenes are genuinely worthy of a redux treatment; even in 2021.
@Just think This has nothing to do with the original comment. You just used it to go off on a tangent about the real life Lee Harvey Oswald
@Just think says a lot about you. Interesting
@Just think you're welcome although it was not necessarily a compliment
Is there a new version coming out ?
@@stevefleming356 Not that I'm aware of. Rumour has Oliver Stone once considering a 'redux' version with all scenes included. Never happened.
Ruby's psychiatrist was MKUltra doctor Jolly West, whose goals in the program included inducing insanity in a subject without their knowledge.
GARY OLDMAN'S ACTING IS SOOO INTUITIVE, CHANNELED. HE IS ONE OF THE GREAT ACTORS!!! A VERY EMPATHETIC METHOD ACTOR. HE IS A HARD-WORKING, FOCUSED ACTOR. AN EXTREMELY UNDERRATED ACTOR.
Give me a break, roofing, is hard work.
Gary is a great job playing LHO, but have you seen how he has recanted to statement regarding the shooting of jfk ? now sides w/the WC and it's finding, total joke
Oldman’s portrayal of Oswald is one of cinema’s greatest accomplishments.
Wow, director's cut has 200 minutes and now we see this, imagine a JFK four hour cut
so instead of 3 hours of fiction you can sit thru 4 hours of fiction
@@fiveofever2971 you’d have to be an idiot to think this movie is fiction. all the evidence suggests there were multiple shooters. you’d think after 57 years people would figure that out by now...
@@JRennick27 And only an idiot would make a comment like that. Stone plays fast and loose with the evidence. So now you need to prove multiple shooters. You'd think after 57 years conspiracy kooks would have given up, seeing as your side has never proved one. But it just goes to show cognitive dissonance is a powerful disorder LMAO!
@@fiveofever2971 Yer opinion is better than Dr. McClelland who said JFK was shot from the front both head and throat...Hell No! Better than Dr. Crenshaw who said the same? Hell No... better than Dr. Perry who was certain throat wound was one of entrance...Hell No! And witness after witness at both Hospitals? An emphatic Hell No...
@@fiveofever2971 yeah that must be why everyone keeps ending up shot right before they are called to testify. because there’s no conspiracy. keep telling yourself that
Ruby was more truthful than the Warren Commission.
@Closertotruth2 Ruby was truthful testifying *_before_* the Warren Commission. Oliver Stone's JFK depicts Ruby , begging to be taken back to Washington so that he can give "further testimony," presumably of a conspiratorial nature. But Stone omits what is the most lucid, significant remark of Ruby's testimony, when he told Chief Justice Earl Warren, Gerald Ford and others, "I am as innocent regarding any conspiracy as any of you gentlemen in the room . . ." Ruby was actually begging the commission to take him back to Washington so that he could take a polygraph examination and prove that he was telling the truth when he denied any role in a conspiracy.
Ruby said he wanted to be taken to Washington to convince President Lyndon Johnson that he was not part of any conspiracy to kill Kennedy. But this was disallowed by the Commission. Here is Ruby’s testimony before the Warren Commission, in which Ruby literally begged Chief Justice Earl Warren to bring him to Washington to give further testimony. Ruby: “But you [Warren] are the only one that can save me. I think you can.” Warren: “Yes?” Ruby: “But by delaying, you lose the chance. And all I want to do is tell the truth, and that is all. There was no conspiracy.”
A lot of people criticize Jim Garrison for the way he handled the "Case", I thought he did an admiral Job under the circumstances...& He Did Do one thing....He stirred the "Shitstorm"
Only one to have the guts to see a conspiracy and go after the conspirators. Clay Shaw was in the CIA.
@Just think I agree thats about how it played out. Agree on multiple shooters but the kill shot came from the grassy knoll area. I believe (at this time) that shots were also fired from the roof of the Dal-Tex building and the TSBD. Oswald was not the shooter. They would have had to heavily edit the script to cover Oswald more thoroughly. I would have watched.
@Just think Thank you. Will consider.
to Mj,,,Plot method,To John,,,To Mark, yes E. Howard Hunt was in that role in the project they named the" Big event", as Architect. He was CIA,
Photo of him in Dallas exists., wearing earpiece as given to Dallas police,
For comms. To truthseekers, to Barrie,,,
,To @truth:::::To Pete ,@alankoz5067
Yes, you got all your points correct!! Mac Wallace, hitman for LBJ , an
Frank Sturgis was a confirmed shooters at Kennedy too, as well as at least 8 others. Every main shooter had an assigned backup shooter, as well there were signal men, spotters, fake badgemen.,
Tactician, Strategist, Architect w field
Crossfire setup, with a kill zone painted in yellow paint stripes on curb, wet yellow paint was transferred to people's footwear,
6 confessions an counting,
LBJ Accountant paid most shooters, 5 snipers who were firing from 5 different directions,
Jfk hit with 6 bullets totally, very complex plot.
Head Shots:: to Jfk, overlapping 2 shot from back, overlapping 2 shot from front, trick shots to disguise pathway ùtrajectory, some silencers utilized, shot to front throat via windshield shot from front, Bullet stuck in throat of jfk until Bethesda, shot to back right shoulder , from back, bullet that fell out in limo. underloaded Cia bullet by design.
also.. Motorcycle cop left recording open for audio,
Audiotape was spliced onto real non tampered Zapruder film, matches up exactly 💯 by Groden an others, as to sounds of non-silenced shots.
Volley of 16 shots totally by multi-shooters, heard by Nellie Connally... an earwitness. lone shooter cannot generate a 16 plus shots volley w bolt
Action rifle in matter of seconds. Fusilade age of shots. Signaled for by 🌂..
Project financed by big Oilmen, including Hunt sr. payouts by LBJ staff. N lawyer, accountant.
Many investigations squelched, for years, evidence tampered with, evidence hidden, buried, witnesses killed. Patsy was in place. Rogue CIA playbookkkk, body and brain switch with Tippit, you couldn't make this up,
Bogus autopsy, sad very,
Very Stolen brains.
Tape of military Chiefs secretly recorded them saying Kennedy was a marked man, after jfk left meeting room..Le May was there. project corruption ensued. Covered-up as planned,
In the years beforehand.
Checklist accomplished in coup d'etat.😢
I'm watching this today in 2021... all of these scenes is called precursor to today. This is when it all started.
Killed in Johnson's home state, and he gets to be president??? That's all I ever had to see and hear. I was 8 years old watching it all unfold on TV, with my family. I suddenly hollered out, "That guy's gonna pull a gun", just before Ruby drew and fired. A real shocker to a kid.
No you didn't
The main point to understand is that today, the left wing government control party is totalitarian and incompatible with our principles of liberty and the bill of rights.
@@bradhuskers lol
@@FD_and_B
If you've studied politics as long as I have, you'd understand exactly what I've said.
But don't fret none.
Millions of easily duped individuals don't understand either.
As for Oliver Stone?
Yes, he's a left wing nutjob extremist.
Always has been.
@@bradhuskers lmfao
I saw this movie when it first came out in 1991. Picture this: crowded theater, very quiet, John Candy has a scene. I turned to my left and whispered to my friend, a history professor at a local college, "That is John Candy." He was hard of hearing and yelled out, "That's John Kennedy?"
Dallas Brubaker 😂
Dallas Brubaker Hahahaha
😂
He was one of the best performances in the movie. I wish we got more of him so funny lmao
John Candy looked like Dean Andrews - perfectly cast...
I would like Oliver Stone to do a movie about Julian Assange
Yes, that would be fascinating...
Trump
Ive watched the movie 100 million times and everytime when the final courtroom scene starts i k ow the end is close. Its so long and has so much information but flows perfectly. Great movie.
Pure fantasy
So much false information
@@randyharris3175 You seem to be on a mission here. Just accept the fact that there are way too many legitimate questions asked regarding this case for people to believe that was a lone guy firing an almost impossible shots in that amount of time with a mediocre weapon at best. It's not as clear what happened as you would like people to believe. The "official" story stinks so much, it's unbearable. There are way too many people and organizations that would benefit from his death, so we can't pinpoint who did it, but if your theory is the official one, you must be out of your damn mind.
@@ventsislavstefanov9590 if ruby did not shoot Oswald it would have been super easy case just because you say too many questions does not prove anthing was involved except Oswald you can not just throw out the 53 pieces if evidence against Oswald because you want to name a invisible assasin face it Oswald was a Wierd Bird you can not figure out what was going on in his demented mind
@@randyharris3175 That's exactly why I can't wrap my head around the fact that he was good enough to make these shots in less than 6 seconds. But even if we abandon the technicality of it , its too convenient all the events that followed. I do not trust the Warren commission findings one bit, simply because it consists of people invested in the truth to be kept under wraps. All kinds of experts disagree on the matter, why? If is so clear that LHO shot, why files are being hidden away? If there's nothing else to show or know besides the fact that Oswald was guilty why prolong the release of the files? J Hoover - The thing I am concerned about, and so is Mr. Katzenbach, is having something issued so we can convince the public that Oswald is the real assassin" - What's that about huh? I am not making this up you know... it's all over the place. But I guess it's almost 60 years of whitch hunt and the US elite, bankers, military industry, Fed reserve, CIA just got lucky that day and progressively richer overtime with several hundread billions. It happens :).
You always know how close someone is to the truth by looking at who's calling them a kook or a liar and why
In some cases people are just clearly insane though. I actually like cases like the assasination of JFK to never get solved. The fact that it remains a mystery gives us movies like this.
Garrison and Oliver Stone's story are very believable, I'm not denying that. But it is far from universaly recognized as the truth, which allows room for speculation. Personally I'm ok with that. That final deleted scene with Donald Sutherland sums it up perfectly when Garrison says it almost feels as if his whole story never happened and X responds with: "It never did." As long as the majority of people either don't know or don't believe that something happened, then officially it never did. Even if it actually did.
And yet you'll find millions of people who are absolutely convinced you're wrong. They'll say exactly the same thing. There's only one truth and that's theirs. That disagreement is what makes events like the JFK assasination interesting.
Uncle Tony hits it out of the park!
As an old WWII bomber pilot once said, "When you're getting heavy flak (Anti-aircraft fire--in German, 'FLugzeug Abwehr Kanon'--FLAK) you know you're over the target".
Oliver Stone is an incredible human being
no he is a purveyor of disinformation and conspiracy theories, the movie JFK was a total joke
Mr. Stone is so right because if he does not make this movie so many people would believe the danger which President Eisenhower was referring to in his farewell address
@@bob80q Bingo! I used to buy into all the “it could’ve happened this way” and “it’s possible that this happened” bullshit. Oooooh...it’s a CONSPIRACY...
Vince Bugliosi’s “Reclaiming History” shatters this garbage, including an entire chapter that dismantles Stone’s nonsense in a detailed, clinical, and prosecutorial fashion. A brilliant takedown of a con artist.
It’s just naive to believe government has your best interests in mind. Both sides are corrupt.
@@JF-bc2lw Corruption and Conspiracy are 2 distinctly different topics. I agree w your opinion re: corruption. However, one has nothing to do with the other.
Oliver Stone made a lot of great films and JFK is one of them.
That's why it isn't on netflix. You won't find any OS movies on Netflix. I wonder which provider has them. Correction, there is one: Scarface (safe choice)
Great KGB propaganda 😂 I agree!
@@stevedotwood *The 'Scarface' remake is a Brian De Palma movie. Stone only wrote the screenplay of it.
@@fabiengerard8142 thanks for the info
On the 30th anniversary of John Kennedy's death, 3 networks ran stories on television: PBS Frontline and (I think) ABC and NBC. There was not much on TV that evening so I was bored and changed channels among them.
2 talked about the audiotape - something I had not heard of. A motorcycle policeman in the motorcade had a stuck mic button on his police radio. Dallas Police made recordings of transmissions at the station so the assassination was on audiotape. Both networks were talking about whether a "4th shot" on the recording was another shot or an echo. Both networks said it was an echo and described where the policeman was and why that caused the echo - but there was a problem. One network said that the motorcycle was behind JFK's limo, the other network said that the motorcycle was in front.
BOTH Networks interviewed that policeman. He was the same guy, interviewed on different days so, wearing different clothes but clearly the same man. He is actually well known for the stuck microphone, it is but another story buried. When each network asked him to confirm his position in the motorcade, he did. They simply asked him, with camera and microphone. They did not show him their models. The policeman answered "Yes" to BOTH Networks so, "Yes, I was in front of the President's Limo" but also "Yes, I was behind the President's Limo."
So I was thinking "mistake" not conspiracy and I wrote to one network and pointed out the difference. They did not clarify the point, they posted my name online with other letters but "my letter" was actually a letter making no sense and not asking the question that I asked.
I was then that I knew that Kennedy had been murdered by conspiracy and the cowards left behind covered it up.
We should be more advanced as a society instead of facing the problems in our midst but it is because, for instance, selling us oil products has been so very profitable. The wealth and power in the hands of the few who had already demonstrated a willingness to pollute, a willingness to order that people be killed for control of oil and a willingness to mock and block better alternatives like electric vehicles hurt us all in the name of profit for a few. Vietnam was about control of Rubber and Tin. Richard Nixon said so, see Ken Burns' "Vietnam" Episode 1.
Better ideas should be allowed to succeed because we will all benefit. JFK's assassination, war, famine and other injustices are put upon us by cowardly, greedy scum who do not want progress, they seek control at any cost.
You are a true Patriot! May God bless you and keep you.
It’s been an aura of make believe in Washington ever since Kennedy’s death.
@Maryann MacDonald Agree. JFK's assassination made people question the government after a while, yet many of us know that wasn't the beginning. Or the end.
@Maryann MacDonald yes it’s a great book.
Long, long before that.
@@crouchingcaterpillar
But the thing you're missing is that the left is totalitarian.
Oliver Stone has always been a radical left wing sociopath. His numerous pathological lies over the past forty years, proves this beyond any and all doubt.
Today, the left has corrupted the press, media and academia. Alzheimer's Joe is being controlled by radical leftists. The removal of our military BEFORE getting the thousands of people out, will go down as the worst fail in military history. Leaving behind our weapons, technology, helicopters, etc....is indeed gross incompetence by this administration.
Impeachment should've begin immediately.
The left wing in this country has successfully brainwashed half the population.
It's been their goal for decades now.
And they've actually done it.
The next generation is completely brainwashed by left wing bullshit propaganda.
@@bradhuskers The things you're
missing are too numerous to list. Look at blank Trumpists nodding along with every crazy thing he says or does, lies with every breath and has convinced a large part of the population into believing he didn't stir up the insurrection, then that it was merely tourists and now that it wasn't so bad. Maybe he also blamed antifa. He needs mental help, handcuffs and prison. That won't fix everything broken. Too many stupid-ass people in Congress. If you knew history, you'd know presidents are controlled. Blame the media, blame the logical left and settle in as a victim. You'll blend in perfectly. I won't waste any more time on right-winger lunacy.
I love the line "he did speak in cadenced sentences; he had studied Shakespeare extensively." (10:11)
I love listening to Oliver Stone talk about his film, and these scenes.
I found Garrison's book in a second-hand book shop, in the Fiction section, publisher had it classified as fiction. 😔
if any book( s ) should be in the `fiction' section, it should be that warren report. all 26 volumes of it. if ya notice at time stamp 27:06 the name on the name plate is `E. G. - -- - - sd -e' aka - maj. gen. edward g. landsdale. just wondering why his name was not mentioned. or that of lyman limitzer either. the whole movie raises even more questions as to just exactly who those involved are.
@@sr71ablackbird yes, now you've made me want to refresh my memory on him. I've read a bit about Lansdale, it's a bit faded. I agree with you, stage managed. That book, I really was on a mission with the book shop to stick that book of Garrisons in the right place. Fiction section way down the back where they had the book, the True Crime and History up the front on it's own sta d more prominent and where a lot of books get read. So I kept at it each time I went in. Glad I got to tell someone in publishing about it, so wrong. Hey and this so called fiction book had photos in it. Unbelievable that it's called fiction with photos of the actual people.
Cheers.
@@sr71ablackbird I remember, Lonsdale portrayed in the novel The Quiet American. Will read more on him and that other man. I agree odd that it's hinted at in the movie and video above. I wonder if Stone was bound to only hint for legal reasons. It's a good question, you should write to Oliver. I would.
@@deborahharris2962 not sure, however, i am thinking that he already had, when `mr.x' speaks about `general y'.
@Deborah Harris
I ordered it especially from my local library.
Scared me even more than the movie.
😶
‘What kind of a sledgehammer the media could be in those days’ lol. Hasn’t changed Ollie. Paradigms do.
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I used to think it strange after listening to the recording of Ruby telling his brother there was No conspiracy just before he died in hospital, Until I heard about Ruby bing visited by the MindControl doctor in Jail. The frustrating part though was the opportunities Ruby had to tell the world on camera instead of hinting, He knew he was likely a dead man walking.
Ruby could have made any public statement he wanted during his trial. His mental condition deteriorated badly as time went by and he was claiming to hear Jews being tortured in the next cell.
Brilliant commentary by Stone. Brilliant film.
I love the sequence at 10:50 with the ring clacking against the table. Very menacing.
I watch this film every November to commemorate the tragedy in Dallas. I'm well aware that Stone took dramatic license when creating this film. The important thing is keeping this event in the public forum and debate. Whether Oswald was the culprit or not everyone should agree Americans were not given the truth and the military industrial complex truly took over.
Oswald worked for the CIA & was a contract agent for them, was also a FBI informant. was trained by ONI, he was a good guy, wesley Frazier who gave him a ride to work said he liked JFK & voted for him. take that to the bank !
JFK, First Victim of the Deep State
Well I think it worked in a way to how Area 51 supposedly works or working on nuclear or future tech...some people get some of the info but no one gets all of it except the very high up and a lot of the info is purposely false to out who may be sharing any info or expose that the project may be close to actual exposure to be shut down. I think a lot of the story here is true but a lot hasnt been found out and may not ever
What a bunch of morons you are, even with all the knowledge in the world at your fingertips you still insist on your proud stupidity.
Oswald was a KGB agent along with his wife Marina and best friend George 🇺🇸 this obvious fact was covered up to avoid WW III.
It is also public knowledge that area 51 (Groom Lake) is the base for secret aerospace research on stuff like stealth planes. Idiots 🤦
@@duke4384nope. One hundred percent false. Not taking it to the bank.
Thank you for uploading this!! I hadn’t seen this before, and I’m going to watch it again.
Files are still locked away, if there's nothing to hide what's the problem? Also if there's nothing to hide, release all the confiscated video and camera material.
@k l 4: There is nothing locked away that would prove any conspiracy. The ARRB examined all the files that were not released. After their study was done, they said there was "no smoking gun" in any of them. The files that have not been released are because they contain names of people that are still alive and should be protected; or they detail investigative procedures the FBI does not want publicized. The "hidden" files are the last gasp by conspiracy kooks that have nothing left. They have no evidence of a conspiracy and no clue what else to blame.
@Pat M Fours days after the assassination LBJ signed NSAM 273, negating JFK's NSAM 263? Far from negating NSAM 273, NSAM 263 acted to re-affirm it. And it.hardly represented the kind of far-reaching policy initiative that the incipient-withdrawal proponents would suggest. It was but one part of a larger 'selective pressures' policy designed to push the Diem regime into greater effectiveness. The preponderance of the evidence would appear to refute any notion that John Kennedy had decided to withdraw from Vietnam.
@Pat M Having lost on the Liberty Lobby & Vietnam withdrawal fronts, conspiratard, Pat M veers off course, switching topics. As solid evidence for conspiracy, he blithely drops the name of one of the most sleazy, disingenuous, self-aggrandizing, perfidious, false conspiracy peddlers of all time. One who has a record of making statements that sound plausible but that never hold up when compared to the historical record (assassins shooting blanks, the "stand down" order etc.). And he has a record of associations with crackpotish and unsavory groups. Is that really all you've got?
You know nothing about real research. Your method suffers from an acute case of "confirmation bias" - the tendency to favor information that confirms one's existing beliefs or hypotheses, and to disregard all the rest.
@@RichardM333 No evidence supports what you write. JFK conspiracy enthusiasts think that the YT comments sections is for spewing nonsense. Meanwhile, the facts and the correctly decided verdict remain.
I guy 3x my age told me that, they were supposed to be released in 2003 but pushed back to 2033. He also mentioned that they’re waiting until all the Kennedy’s dies.
I love this movie JFK, and I’m sure it’s so obvious there was a conspiracy. But to see these deleted scenes adds so much more to the movie, I’d love to have the JFK movie intact w ALL the deleted scenes! Or make it myself, if I can find w/o Stones narration
Movie is a work of lies and fiction.
DVD special version.
it's such a pity these scenes are not in any cut of the movie...it would be awesome to have the whole thing on one dvd or bluray
RIP
Donald Sutherland
"X" in *"JFK"* (1991)
That's actually Jim Garrison interrogating Ruby.
Joe Smith it is not Kevin Costner played Jim Garrison Brian doyle-murray played Jack Ruby
Anthony C the real Jim Garrison is playing Chief Justice Earl Warren who is questioning Ruby
It is Garrison. playing the Chief Justice with the glasses asking Ruby questions.
Dennis Settlemyre ,yes, Jim Garrison played a cameo appearance.
Yes it is
No Bullet in the History of Bullets acted like "The Magic Bullet"
well give us an alternative to all the wounds of JFK and Gov Connally
@@fiveofever2971 multiple shooters, CIA bot
@@JamesT094 prove it Einstein
@@fiveofever2971 Show me the car and I'll prove it. Show me Kennedy's brain and I'll prove it. Show me the back of his head and I'll prove it.
Oh wait. You can't show me any of that, because they were all destroyed and tampered with immediately after the murder. Very interesting.
@@TheyAreHere2 I was addressing the others but since you’d like to play hero then provide an alternative to the single bullet fact. like an requested then we can proceed.
The Ruby situation is interesting, because they know more now than when they made the movie. In the book "Chaos" about Charles Manson, they show that the doctor who was working with Manson was also the one who "Treated" Ruby. Possibly even the one portrayed here giving Ruby the injections.
Injecting cancer cells to cause cancer is medical nonsense.
Louis Jolie West...a great American
The reason that Oswald had to be silenced is because F. Lee Baily was on a plane to Dallas to represent Oswald in court. There was no reason to "transfer" Oswald other than to give Ruby an opportunity to shoot him.
Sure because Operative Ruby first had to stand patiently in line and send a $25 Western Union money order to one of his Operative strippers before he could be bothered with this mission.
The recipient of the Western Union wire transfer was a stripper named Karen Bennett. 19 years old, pregnant, and married to an out-of-work salesman. Operative Ruby did amazing work sending her 25 dollars and then putting a well-deserved bullet in Oswald’s gut...all within a few minutes.
Showing up to the garage after Oswald was actually scheduled to be transferred, and leaving his favorite dog locked in his car. Yeah, this was a planned event LMAO!.
Haven’t heard about that one. And who sent Ruby?
@xoxolol and you are just another conspiracy nutjob who probably spends most of his time watching Hee Haw reruns
@Just think yeah you keyboard kommandos know it all
It was standard procedure to transfer every suspect in custody from the city jail to the county jail after he had been processed.
Oliver Stone is one of the smartest people of are time and should be listened to.
Yup..If the Media has listened to him instead of the dishonest as hell Lone Nutters we never would have had the insanity of Trump. Also, originally in 1964 very possibly MLK and RFK wouldn't have been killed later on, because a certain ex President and a few others would have went to prison over JFK's killing..
Mr.Stone made a Historic master piece!
It says so mush more and brilliantly presented WoW!!
Thank you.
Fantasic cast and to you and everyone involved .
no its a propaganda piece with many badly twisted facts or made up scenes to fit his own version of events
@@bob80q
200% correct.
It's amazing that millions of weak minded sheep are duped and manipulated so easily.
ROAD DOG
you are an easily duped simpleton for admiring a left wing nutjob like Oliver Stone. His movies have always been littered with pathological lies and bullshit propaganda.
I urge you to read Vince Bugliosi’s Reclaiming History; in particular, the chapter devoted to shredding the JFK movie. Read it with an open mind, as I did (I used to be a Conspiracy Theorist myself). It shreds the nonsense “what if’s” and “it could’ve happened THIS way” that Stone presents as factual information.
@@robertbruce6865
I'm already on Vincent's side. Oliver Stone is a left wing nutjob extremist. All his propaganda and revisionist history has been thoroughly debunked.
Thank you Cinema Garmonbozia for sharing this, totally absorbing and excellent work from the brilliant Oliver Stone. Totally fascinating. Thank you Oliver Stone. Truth Will Out
Brian Doyle Murray did a good job of playing Ruby.
For some reason I thought Albert Brooks looked like Ruby. He's more of a comedian.
you mean Gus?
I think the conversation Jack Ruby had with the Warren commission would have been buried anyway,for if it were not for Mr. Stone we would not have known about this
ikr . . . it's a shame they couldn't utilize his brother (Bill) in a role in the film.
Oliver stone is in the top 3 american writers/directors....ever
Darned good scenes.
Thank You.
I've only just discovered these out-takes. I had a VHS director's cut back then, but this is so much more! Seeking out loads of old books in the eighties, it became a big interest of mine. I read both books that inspired JFK, On The Trail of The Assassin's and Crossfire, both gripping. JFK is an important film, obviously Stone had to use composite characters for time limitations and to get the film to flow, but the film hold up now, even with evidence evolving overtime and some points innacurate. The acting's superb, nothing lacking. I can see why some of theses scenes were cut, but it's great to see what else was filmed. Thanks for this. By the way, I've just read Josiah Thompson's Last Second in Dallas, my first JFK book in years. Fascinating.
Both Jim Garrison and Jim Marrs, writers of those books, were demonstrable and shameless liars, paranoids and crackpots.
@@aaronz7056 YOU again! Time to stop gaslighting and go to bed like a good little boy.
@@barbaracabello587 Well, then, since it's time for me to go to bed like a good little boy, you will presumably now address and explain away all of the following and win me over, yes?
Marr's record:
- spent years giving his middle finger to the family of a decorated police officer who lost his life in the cause of his duty as he accused the man without evidence of being a conspirator so long as it suited his crackpot "theories," conduct I presume you say you are applauding
- made up a ridiculous "mysterious deaths list of witnesses" where everybody on it either had little or no connection to the case or else their causes of death were misreported to sound more "sinister"
- gave us the "multiple clones of Oswald running around Dallas idiocy"
- proved flying saucers are real...
Jim Garrison's record:
- soundly and firmly condemned by the America Bar Association for his actions
- ruined an innocent man's life with a crackpot "case" that fell apart within minutes of reaching his hand-picked jury
- lied about the parade route being changed, about Oswald being in the Depository doorway, about the 3 tramps not being ID'd and cleared, about a bullet being found in the grass, etc., etc.
- is on record implicating ALL of the following as being conspirators in murder, treason and cover-up:
FBI
CIA
Secret Service
Dallas PD
Lyndon Johnson
Chief Justice Warren
entire Warren Commission staff
lawyers defending people he suspected
NBC
CBS
Johnny Carson
Newsweek
Los Angeles Times
Washington Post
BOBBY KENNEDY (for not kissing his ass, basically)
John Birch Society
NASA
oil industry
aerospace industry
13 State Regional Democratic Organization
White Russians
Cuban guerrillas
neo-Nazis
a man who'd made inflammatory comments about Kennedy and been in El Paso during the assassination
a Marine buddy of Oswald's Garrison decided was an Oswald "lookalike"
conspiracy authors critical of him (at behest of CIA)
the telephone company ("an extension of the U.S. government")
gays and masochists pulling off a "homosexual thrill killing..."
This film was amazing. As great as SILENCE OF THE LAMBS was, I was surprised it beat this film for the Best Picture and Best Director Oscar.
This film made me an Oliver Stone fan @ 10 years old.
This has been 1 of my very favorite movies ever since and I thank my mother for letting watch this film and come to my own conclusions & ask my own questions.
I do appreciate it.
I may have been a little young for it but @ least I’ve been aware because of it.
It's a great movie but plays fast and loose with the facts
Thank you for posting this. 🙏
While I enjoyed this video I would have rather had Oliver Stone introduce them and then let us see the scenes in their entirety.
DITTO
They have that option on the DVD to play the deleted scenes with OR without the director commentary. This was uploaded w/ the commentary.
It's all in the Director's cut !
Watch 1:45 and that is the chief justice Warren as played by none other than the real Jim Garrison. Yep, that is true, Kevin Costner played Jim Garrison and the real Jim Garrison played Warren.
My dad laughed because Garrison said no daughter of his was ever going to win a beauty contest. So my mom called Mrs. Garrison and told her to raise hell about Jim saying bad words about his own daughter's looks. She did.
The role of Earl Warren is played by Jim Garrison by the way. “JFK” was a very impactful film and eventually resulted in demand by the public for the release of “all the files”. The result was the formation of the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB) which did some important work. The mainstream media gave the ARRB a wide birth. Thanks for posting. I agree with Mr. Stone…Please care.
Mr. Stone lies more than 80 times in the film.
@@aaronz7056 Shhhhhhhh!!! Adults in the room speaking.
@@barbaracabello587 Stone: Oswald a lousy shot
Truth: Oswald scored 18 out of 20 in rapid fire at targets 200 yards away and it's right in his Marines scorebook
Stone: 112th Military Intelligence Group ordered to "stand down"
Truth: flatly contradicted by sworn HSCA testimony of C.O. of group, which provided men to assist S.S. in Dallas
Stone: conspirator has fake seizure in plaza, disappears
Truth: Jerry Belknap went to Parkwood Hospital after recovering from real seizure
Stone: 3 shots over 5.6 seconds
Truth: 3 shots over 8-9 seconds as victims' reactions in Zapruder's film clearly demonstrate
Stone: impossible for Connally to still be holding his hat after being shot
Truth: he was still holding the hat in that hand on arrival at hosptial
Stone: Mayor Cabell changes parade route to assist assassins
Truth: route was never changed, accurately described in newspapers from the beginning
Stone: witnesses on TSBD stairs never see Oswald fleeing, thus clearing him
Truth: they came downstairs after he did and Stone never explains how the "real assassins" got downstairs!
Stone: 3 fake hoboes faked arrested, disappear
Truth: hoboes are John Gedney, Gus Abrams and Harold Doyle, they were ID'd and cleared that same day, released with no evidence against them, their arrest records existing to this day
Stone: Jean Hill sees knoll shooter, is immediately seized, sequestered, menaced by sinister agents
Truth: Hill was making no such claims in the 1960's, nor does she mention it on live TV the day of the assassination
Stone: Officer Tippit shot by two killers
Truth: Ms. Clemons' words make it clear enough she saw at best a shooter and bystander who was almost certainly Benavides or Cimino, and Stone never mentions other witnesses much closer to Tippit than Clemons firmly said there was but one shooter, nor does he mention Oswald was ID'd by nearly a dozen witnesses
Stone: police invade theater to arrest man for not paying admission
Truth: the man was a good match to the suspect just seen murdering a police officer nearby
Stone: mean cops rough up unarmed Oswald in theater
Truth: Oswald drew his gun and tried to shoot the first cop to approach, fighting so violently 3 officers were injured just disarming him before he could fire
[those officers risked their lives to capture their suspect alive as per their duty, but Stone doesn't give a damn who he paints as a conspirator so long as it suits him]
Stone: limo full of bullet holes
Truth: only damage to limo is a crack to windshield (still in National Archives) caused by a bullet fragment that also damaged the chrome plating... from the inside
Stone: "back and to the left"
Truth: direction a persons' head goes is meaningless regarding what direction the bullet came from and Kennedy is very clearly seen to suffer a massive exit wound exploding at the temple consistent only with a shot from behind
Stone: autopsy faked
Truth: this would require safely and swiftly approaching scores of FBI, Secret Service, military personnel, doctors, pathologists, x-ray technicians, photographers, witnesses, ballistics experts, etc., and persuading them all to obey illegal orders to commit complex crimes when just leaving well enough alone and saying Oswald must have had an accomplice who got away would have suited any conspiracy just fine
Stone: "backyard photos" faked
Truth: extensive analysis over the years has failed to find evidence of fakery, Oswald's wife affirmed she took the photos
Stone: everything pertaining to Beverly Oliver character
Truth: Oliver is an infamous, notorious and demonstrable liar and grifter
Stone: Lee Bowers murdered
Truth: Bowers' words make it clear enough he saw nothing that would threaten any conspiracy, he didn't die until 2 years after he had already testified, and his car accident was investigated by the police, the HSCA and by researcher David Perry, none of whom found any evidence for foul play
Stone: guilt-ridden David Ferrie starts cooperating with Jim Garrison, is murdered
Truth: Ferrie, who died of Berry aneurysm after failing health, always hotly denied any knowledge of the assassination and was preparing to sue Jim Garrison for harassment
Stone: Justice Department "does nothing" in regards to HSCA's conclusions of "probable conspiracy"
Truth: HSCA was all set to conclude Oswald acted alone until those acoustics experts came forward at the last minute with their dictabelt recording... which the J.D. investigated and discovered was erroneous and invalid as evidence, completely debunking it more than forty years ago...
There are dozens more.
There was no magic bullet. It did exactly what it supposed to do at that angle and trajectory.
Dorothy Kilgallen was the only journalist who spoke with Ruby in private. She was also killed.
I love the fact that Oliver Stone used big Jim Garrison to play Earl kWarren. I grew up with Garrison’s kids, and that was awesome of Stone to cast Garrison. I hate to say it, but Garrison was closer to the truth than anyone else. I would suggest his book, “On The Trail of Assassins.” I actually knew Numa Bertel, he was the head of the Indigent Defender’s Office when I was an Asst. DA.
Raykibb Heard Garrison speak at my college. He really was spot on.
@@kathleenpapaleo8891 He was a super intelligent man. I was always afraid someone would have him killed.
LiveOkie: There is a certain conspiracy theory stigma which I have found exists, especially amongst New Orleanians. I am an attorney, so I deal in facts; but personally you got me, because I am proud to know the family. ‘Dr. Mary’s Monkey’ is another more extreme conspiratorial work. I’d give it a read if you have not. It follows David Ferrie and his cancer treatment experiments. It contains much about the hard right which existed in New Orleans in the early ‘60s. Best of health!!
Garrison was a pure fraud
@@kathleenpapaleo8891 spot on my ass he was dead wrong
Mr Stone. Your a genius, your movie is way beyond exceptional. The richness is stunning. This is a man who understands not only cinema in its absolute entirity, but has a moral and ethical compass which is down right rare to explain such complex issues. A gem of a man and movie.
He's a con artist.
@Just think Rubbish, and all credible evidence here in the real world points squarely at Oswald.
@@aaronz7056 give it up - - your disinformation campaign has failed . . .
@@aaronz7056 your attempts at gaslighting grow more feeble by the day. Sorry. The cat is out of the bag. The fix is in. You lose.
@@barbaracabello587 Now, do I REALLY have to list the 80+ demonstrable and highly relevant lies told in this movie? Granted it would be hilarious seeing you try to respond to them...
Ruby was murdered just like Oswald. Dr. Jolly was not his doctor, and he was supposedly treating him for the flu. And then suddenly he states that Ruby has gone insane and is dying of cancer. And less than two weeks later, Ruby is dead.
Yes, Jolly actively pursued the opportunity to meet will Ruby, and after their meetings, Ruby became psychotic and paranoid, probably due to LSD, which was part of Jolly's MO as part of his MK Ultra business.
@@johnvrabec9747 Yup. I agree 100%.
The great Donald Sutherland just died weeks ago. He was so terriffic in this role as "X", the spook who sets Costner/Garrison straight. He connects all of the dots. Brilliant acting/role/lessons on corruption from a brilliant actor, Sutherland, who will be sorely.
Thank you for posting this. I continue to admire Stone, including his work here, and more importantly in what he has done advancing our knowledge of the JFK assassination. However, have just finished watching a youtube clip denouncing the work of Oliver Stone, Moore and others as disinformation, or at best as revisionist history, particularly Stone's movie on the JFK assassination. Although I argued in Stone's defense, stating his movie "JFK" had lead to the creation of ARRB, therefore the release of many more important documents on the JFK murder, including extensive information on the Zapruder film, it's handling and copying thereof. However I regret I hadn't suggested the following: if we cannot believe in the whistleblowers of today (Moore, Manning, Assange, Snowden, et al, including Stone himself) just in whom DO WE BELIEVE when it comes to matters such as this?
Certainly not those discredited news organizations of yesterday, or even of today, such as CNN and their kind, or for that matter any of our 'unelected' public officials, those who would give counsel, even dictate to our national leaders on public policy, yet continue to remain at distance to the public at large. We know such individuals and organizations exist since we have some of their names and deeds from reliable sources (at least from those I believe in). Yet no one of Stone's stature has ever taken these entities on (following release of 'JFK'), while later seemingly agreeing with the 'official' version of what happened on 9/11 (notwithstanding the A&E research and/or evidence of the building 7 collapse?) Moore in his 'Fahrenheit 911', and those from 'Loose Change' have done an admirable job revealing some of these collective groups or 'characters,' certainly those more closely involved leading to the 9/11 event. As once said, all roads lead to Rome.
"Thank you for posting this. I continue to admire Stone, including his
work here, and more importantly in what he has done advancing our
knowledge of the JFK assassination. However, have just finished
watching a youtube clip denouncing the work of Oliver Stone, Moore and
others as disinformation, or at best as revisionist history,
particularly Stone's movie on the JFK assassination. Although I argued
in Stone's defense, stating his movie "JFK" had lead to the creation of
ARRB, therefore the release of many more important documents on the JFK
murder, including extensive information on the Zapruder film, it's
handling and copying thereof. However I regret I hadn't suggested the
following: if we cannot believe in the whistleblowers of today (Moore,
Manning, Assange, Snowden, et al, including Stone himself) just in whom
DO WE BELIEVE when it comes to matters such as this?
Certainly not those discredited news organizations of yesterday, or even
of today, such as CNN and their kind"
excellent comment . whistle blowers end up attacked , the media used to falsely discredit them , and or they are locked up . to those who lie the TRUTH is deadly and must be stopped .
Do you admire a guy who slanders a lot of innocent people as being accessories to murder and treason while he cashes in on a movie packed with more than 80 demonstrable lies?
@@fobrien1 "Denouncing his work..." The movie is packed with more than 80 demonstrable lies...
@@aaronz7056 as you brought it up .
please demonstrate that stone KNOWINGLY AND INTENTIONALLY LIED AND TRIED TO DECEIVE PEOPLE .
please list the names of those you say stone slandered and named as accessories to murder , and of course provide the proof you have that you based your above claim on .
i shall look forward to reading your reply and seeing all the proof you provide .
@@fobrien1 Stone: portrays police officers as descending on theater to arrest a man for not paying admission, and beating up unarmed man inside, obviously implying they are part of frame up, cover up.
Truth: the man - Oswald - was a good match to the suspect just seen shooting a police officer nearby. Oswald tried to shoot the first officer to approach him and immediately started fighting so violently 3 officers were injured just disarming him. Those officers risked their lives to capture their suspect alive, but Stone doesn't care who he suggests was part of some plot so long as it suits him.
Stone: fake epileptic has seizure in plaza, disappears, as a distraction.
Truth: Jerry Belknap went to Parkland Hospital after suffering real seizure.
Stone: strongly implies 3 tramps were assassins, fake-arrested and disappearing.
Truth: the 3 were real tramps, their arrest records exist to this day, they were ID'd and cleared, released with no evidence against them.
Stone: 3 cartridges found neatly side by side in Sniper Nest.
Truth: police found the shells scattered: Stone is clearly implying police were lying and part of a cover-up in murder and treason.
Stone: Justice Department had "done nothing" with regard to HSCA conclusions on "probable conspiracy," thus aiding cover-up in murder and treason.
Truth: JD took action by having Ramsey Panel in investigate the one piece of evidence used by HSCA to declare "probable conspiracy," the dictabelt recording, and they discovered it was invalid.
Stone: Lyndon Johnson orders limo "filled with bullet holes" refurbished to cover up evidence of multiple shooters.
Truth: only bullet strikes were to windshield and chrome topping, which are still in the National Archives.
Stone: guilt-ridden David Ferrie has remorse about his role in murder and treason, starts co-operating with Garrison, is rubbed out.
Truth: Ferrie died of Berry aneurysm after declining health, always hotly denied any knowledge of the assassination, and was preparing to sue Garrison for harassing him.
Stone: Dallas Mayor Cabell changes parade route, making it easier for assassins to kill JFK.
Truth: Parade route was never changed.
There's plenty more, but it's gettin' late.
Oliver Stone is a legend/genius in my opinion. He's been known to be very hard on actors. But that's because he's a perfectionist.
I'm one of those young filmmakers Oliver was talking about at the end. Dedicated to telling these types of stories, by any means necessary
I'm not sure how historically accurate this movie is. But it's one of the best movies ever made. In my opinion.
It's about as accurate as you could reasonably expect. Current research could make an even better film today.
There are issues.. in the movie they say that Oswald was not a good shot.. in his marine records it says he was above average. They also insinuate that Johnson was involved.. that's a bit of a stretch. I prefer to look at the sentiment and the imagination that turned me on to researching the information about the assassination. It's an obvious conspiracy.. anyone who says otherwise believes that a crappy italian rifle with basic ammo can blow someone's head off from that distance. Not a chance. Lone gunman theorists are insane.. half the people there saw shots from behind the fence. The film is great though.. performances, direction, editing, music etc
It’s absolute bullshit
ANDY T, so is the alphabet soup guys in the government.
LiveOkie Wanker
Oliver Stone is an American hero and absolute treasure of a human being ♥
a) He tells more than 80 demonstrable lies in this film.
b) He lets Kennedy's murderer off the hook.
c) He paints a lot of innocent people as conspirators.
d) He insisted we should all be "applauding" a lying shyster for ruining an innocent man's life with a crackpot "case."
The REAL OWNERS of this country ( and the world) will always remain nameless , faceless , purveyors of evil.
Listen to JFK's speech in April of 1961, about the forces against which we face
"He said he was injected with cancer cells" -- he also screamed that he could hear millions of jews being tortured in the cell next to him. he was not a well man.
Jay Rollins Well pointed out ! Some people watch that movie and believe it as the truth !! He was as insane as Oswald !!
What medical professional treated him right before that Jews incident? Read the new _Chaos_ Tom O'Neill book.
Mega Mac He had nothing to do with CIA,the mafia or anybody of any importance !! He was a hothead like Oswald ! If he was sent to kill him don’t you think he’d have shot him in the head ?? It was an impulse shooting,he didn’t even expect him to die !
That’s because of the lsd they were pumping him with. That doesn’t mean he was wrong about the cancer injection. They certainly used that as a method to get rid of other people.
Eye-opening, thanks.
If anybody could've told the truth about 22 November it was ruby however the the Warren commission had other ideas if you recall ruby looking into the camera saying the world will never know truth he was telling the future generations and this resonates today
Grand Conspiracies are segmented, Ruby was a small part who could have only shed light on who ordered him to shoot (not kill) Oswald. A single shot to the gut? O died by doctor or spook.
Exactly..... how’d they know??
Because they orchestrated the whole thing.
Absorbing upload. Well done 👏👏👏👏🇮🇪
On the first proposition that Ruby was injected with cancer … Without any evidence that is _entirely speculative,_ and Stone didn’t offer any whatsoever, let alone anything remotely compelling. Yes, both the U.S. and the USSR developed biological and chemical weapons, but not only does production of them have no necessary connection to an assassination of Ruby, but Stone doesn’t say whether the U.S. had weaponized cancer or is just kidding known to have seriously considered ever doing it. Though _equally speculative,_ a far more reasonable scenario is that it was a suicide mission: Ruby already knew he had terminal cancer and that allowed him to shoot Oswald in front of the world knowing that he wouldn’t be serving decades in prison. He could seek vengeance - or whatever you believe his motive was - knowing he would never do the time, all while attaining the “glory” of killing Oswald. Either scenario, though, is only one degree away from Martians did it - and if Martians existed it wouldn’t even be a single degree more speculative than what h s proposing here.
You can speculate all you like, make it SOUND as suspicious and conspiratorial as you like, but without ANY evidence it is no better than writing fiction, which, whatever degree of truth or facts Stone’s film may happen to contain, it what it ultimately is.
Oliver Stone's movie allowed Dealey Plaza to be repaved, in the process the storm drain at the base of the stairs ascending the grassy knoll was shrunken. Previously, it was possible for a rifle-armed man to crouch inside the storm drain and take perfect aim at the exact position where JFK received his "back and to the left" fatal headshot. Later reports to Dallas Police of a "man walking with a rifle along the Trinity River" were probably related, as the storm drain empties directly into a large culvert feeding the river. The fatal shooter was actually in front of the limo, below street level, and in perfect cover. Dr Jim Fetzer's 2003 JFK SYMPOSIUM featured a guest from Australia who presented in 22 parts a decades-spanning amalgamation and comparison of photos of Dealey Plaza. (By the way: LBJ was on the design committee of Dealey Plaza in 1933.) Everything about Dealey Plaza has been tinkered with over the decades: monuments added and movements, repavings, moving of shrubbery, moving of light poles, etc. In fact, many light poles have present-day RF devices, presumably that can scan RFID cards in the pockets of passersby, and/or record and relay audio conversations. Dealey Plaza is a very strange and dangerous place.
Your brain is in the sewer.
This history of Dealey Plaza is here for you to understand copycateffect.blogspot.com/2013/11/Mason33.html
www.masonicinfo.com/kennedy.htm
Always use a torch 🔦 down a rabbit hole you will see further ! DEEP STATE is all about numbers and sacrifice . Nazi(occult) > CIA > Bush > Clinton's ... Everything is related .
Bullshit
I was half-asleep watching Kevin Costner 's famous summation on HBO when I heard a loud knock on the door. I thought it was the CIA coming to get me. Turned out the Dominos Pizza guy had the wrong house.
ha ha
Deleted scenes? If all the errors and fabrications were deleted from Stone's movie, the running time would be a total of 0:37 minutes.
Wow! Thank you Oliver for this Commentary enforcing your fantasyland lunacy!
You want fantasy? How about "the tightest security ever", yet some slob off the street ends up a foot from Oswald and pops him in the gut. "We don't know how he got in there". Yeah, sure, OK, Wink wink.
I do love this movie and have lost count of the number of times I have watched it. Thank you for this commentary, this in itself was like how it all happened. I think often of how to counter the term "theorist" but without theorizing at first, there is no conjecturing. What do we call those who sit around at that table in the Pentagon and start an idea like this and then deny as if nothing happened. They must know that they have bitten more than they can chew sometimes and this is one of those times. How can we leave this alone?
Naseem Khan we call u.s. generals and admirals gangsters
Best movie I ever saw.
You do understand the movie is fiction, not a documentary, don't you? The number of times Stone used "poetic license" or outright lied virtually classifies the film as propaganda--and Stone makes no apologies for that. He criticises Garrison's opponents for not being objective while his entire film is most certainly NOT objective!
Still, it's a very well done film and certainly demonstrates the power of a well-crafted film.
ckom0007, thank you for pointing this out. That it should have to be pointed out at all, though, is very sad. As someone once observed, the only thing Stone got right was the date of the assassination, 11/22/63. The only thing I can say in Stone's favor is that he casts well. The acting, especially in the small roles, is very good.
Naseem Khan even Stone himself said its 90% fiction. Are you ok in the head?
You are CORRECT. Oliver stone IS an incredible, exceptional human being.
Assistant dallas sheriff al Maddox told me in 1991 that ruby complained about being injected with cancer.
When I first saw this, I recognized Wayne Knight from Seinfeld, and I thought they kept calling him "Newman". The character in the film's name is apparently "Numa". Lol 😂.
I would love to see Oliver Stone do a movie about Covid.
I WOULD TOO👍👍👍
This was one of my favourite films growing up but back then my library never had any books on JFK which were concerned with the truth and Internet was in its infancy then.
Thanks Oliver! I remember seeing this film at a theatre in Wallingford, a neighborhood in Seattle. It was an amazing, bracing experience. I was 23. My girlfriend & I stood up to leave as the lights came up. Most of the audience were people in middle age. Many of them had tears around their eyes. It was very emotional for both of us. We talked about the movie while walking for hours after we left the theater. I bought the books the film is based on and read them. It was disturbing and hair-raising, but well worth the time. I appreciate the education.
Stone educated you by telling over 80 demonstrable lies and slandering a lot of innocent people as conspirators in murder and treason.
Did you know that Richard Nixon hired Jack Ruby on his staff as a Congressman in 1947
Jim Garrison has been vindicated....Mr . Garrison was a true patriot....JFK...MLK...RFK ....Malcom X.... you will never be forgotten ....RIP
Jim Garrison is a 100% hero
The Dr. Jolly scene should have been included. I think the only flaw in the JFK movie was the concentration on Jim Garrison as the main focus of the movie. There were so many other areas to get into, that involved the other assassination cells involved. I wish they would have focused on the behavior of the Secret Service at Parkland more.
Newman! He was in on it all along...he knew about the grassy knoll and the second spitter!
The statement that Ruby made regarding his possible elimination and that another form of government would
Did
Love the movie, and this is great stuff, but it's difficult to hear much of the dialogue here because Oliver Stone talks over it.
LMFAO
Sir. You've overlooked the "civil-defense" connection.
Rogans guest mentioned the LSD and the visitor who saw him the day before he went nuts - I wonder if we’ll ever get the truth.
@Big Sky Blue The photo of Oswald is fake, he said it and also you have to look at the shadows behind him and where the shadow falls from his nose, they don't match. Their was a tree in the way to have made the 1st shot impossible and also the street light had a dent from a bullet, which of coarse was removed. Mr. X was a man named L Fletcher Prouty, he worked for General Edward Landsdale who sent Mr. X to Antarctica, he would of been the guy who gave JFK the security that was insufficient on that fateful day. LBJ did reverse JFK's Vietnam policy on Nov. 25, 1963, the movie never said before only that LBJ agreed with the Generals. Oswald supposedly shot at General Walker a right wing guy from Dallas, why did he miss a stationary target and supposedly shot a moving target and only missed once ?
Tom D
The photos of Oswald with his rifle have been verified by photography experts. His wife took the photos and told authorities that. They were taken with Oswald's camera, and had his writing on the back. They were verified as authentic during each and every investigation done regarding the assassination.
@@klrdotorg7135 There lying, it don't take a rocket scientist man, I could tell it's fake and so can many other researchers, you go ahead and believe the lies, by now the shit's up to your neck ! The shadows don't line up, Oswald's Wife was told what to say, he took one look at it and said, "That's my head but not my body, it's superimposed !
@@75397 Regarding what you said about the photos ... horse shit, Tom. But like you also said, believe what you want to believe. Claiming the actual evidence is made up, is the height of convenience to your fantasy.
@Tom D
Edward Landsdale was in Dealey Plaza and can be seen walking past the "3 tramps". Coincidence?
@@klrdotorg7135 The Scotland Yard photographic expert said they are fakes as did his Canadian counterpart. Numerous other experts have also declared them fakes. Even Marina Oswald now states they are not the photos she took and when she did take photos she was stood near the steps to Oswalds right. Its not for anyone other than a jury to declare whether they are fakes or not but in the midst of 75 law enforcement officers a known violent night club owner with a history of carrying concealed weapons waltzed in and shot their suspect. Ruby's excuse for doing this? He wanted to save Jackie Kennedy having to come to Dallas for a trial. He had such a high opinion of the Kennedys that he supposedly sat in the press office whilst the motorcade with the President and the aforementioned Jackie Kennedy rolled by 25 yards away.
Sanna, Ruby is played by Brian Doyle Murray.
Oliver does not care how big a star an actor/actress is. Check your ego at the door if you want to work with him.
9:11 Perhaps that photo is a reference to the blurry shooter known as "Badge-man." 🧐
когда посмотрю данный фильм - обязательно гляну эти кадры! спасибо!)
why is dorothy kilgallens murder not mentioned? she was speaking to ruby and she got clipped
@ferg: Kilgallen was not murdered. She died of a fatal barbiturate/alcohol interaction. Foul play was not suspected, but continually "imagined" by the Cuckoo Conspiracy Community.
@@stddisclaimer8020 You are so dim. This was a few days after she told a friend "I'm going to blow the whole thing open!". I suppose after she killed herself, she stole all her notes.
@@stddisclaimer8020 Why are you so quick to claim to know it was not murder??? BTW what kind of weird name do you have?
@@sueprator9314 Fifty-six years later is not "quick," and it's not a "claim."
Kilgallen was not murdered. She died of a fatal barbiturate/alcohol interaction. There was no evidence of a break-in, violence, or of foul play. Why are you "so quick to claim" an alternate narrative that goes against all the established facts?
@@stddisclaimer8020 Except that, there were three different kinds of barbituates in her system. The three types were just the exact amount to kill someone. Within her residence, only one of those barbituates was available. Also, when she was found she was dressed in pajamas and a peignoir and was in the master bedroom with a book on the bed. Problems: anyone he knew her knew that she did not dress like this for bed. She wore older, much less fancy night garb. Also, the book that was next to her she had recently already read. Also, she required glasses to read, these glasses were in a completely different room. Further, she had a full face of make up on. Any woman will tell you, that they would NEVER go to bed with full make up. Further, she was not getting along with her husband (not many knew this), and the master bedroom was not where she slept. Finally, when you start to die in this manner, your body contorts and struggles to regurgitate the toxin in your system. Her body was laying perfectly flat and with symmetrically placed limbs with no sign of regugitation anywhere. This adds up to staging. This adds up to murder.
I always thought Ruby could have said his testimony right then and there while TV cameras were rolling instead of wanting to go to DC to do it. That made it imperative to see that he ever got there.
Kennedy was killed because his driver took his foot off the gas. The head shot most likely doesn't happen if the driver had just hit the gas after the 2nd shot. He wasn't well trained and slouched in
his seat while taking his foot off the gas. The car was almost at a standstill when the 3rd shot occurred.
Correct, and Jackie doesn' t reacted wery good too.
She should pulled down K. body on her lap.
She regretted it for the rest of her life.
Your close, so close but not quite, the driver is the one who delivered the final shot ! Back and to the left .
@@sitluxetluxfuit4481 He was poorly trained. It shouldn't take you 3 shots and more than 8 seconds to hit the gas.
I was 4 years old with my mother at Sears and Roebuck. ? or S. KLEIN in Cheverly Md. The place was empty except for the Televison section . On the ride home my mother .was crying I was asking her what's wrong trying to console her. Afterwards in the months and years ahead I felt a change in this nation even as a kid, in the loss of everyone being in a good mood that seemed to permeate life when Kennedy was alive. I still remember that mood as young as I was.
At 18:43, look who the camera passes by when they try to arrest Oswald. Jack Ruby's character...Chilling... I was like WTF!
I saw it as well, nice catch! I think it was done to insinuate that Oswald was to meet Ruby there after the shooting. I speculate that Jack Ruby was suppose to shoot Oswald there and end it but the police showed up foiling that plan. Then Ruby, because he failed to execute the plan HAD to show up at the police station where he used his influence with friends at police department to get in, shoot Oswald and take the fall.
@@2cardarsenal310 NOW we're getting somewhere! Kudos to you and may God bless and keep you.
Ruby said he would never tell “the truth”.
@irgski: Ruby said publicly, as well as privately to his brother and to his rabbi, that he was not part of nor did he know anything about any conspiracy. He never wavered on that.
@@stddisclaimer8020 It's a lie, he said he wanted protection & be sent to Washington & he would of told what he knew !
@@Anthony-ws2ve Ruby was a blabbermouth and a self-promoting attention-seeker. Fact is, he went to his grave denying being part of or knowing anything about any "conspiracy."
@@stddisclaimer8020 He was a hot headed JEW, so what, when he was talking to Earl Warren, he asked to be taken to Washington because he felt his life was in danger, "Were Not Police Officers Mr. Ruby" it's all disinformation Man as simple as that, quit being so naive.
@@duke4384 Quit being so naive as to think your characterization of Jack Ruby (or your presumed knowledge of what he thought) reveals he was part of a conspiracy, when in reality, there is absolutely no proof of that. What you believe is evidence, would never make past the front steps of a courthouse in Yokel Falls, SC.
Oswald was in the movie theater to meet his contact, its possible that his handler was there, then the police arrived, the reason why Oswald was screaming ""i am not resisting arrest " ,to tell everyone there that the police, if they gunned him down, he was murdered by the Dallas police officers..
The.why did he reach for his gun, yell out “this is it!” and then attempt to shot a cop?
Oswalds Ghost is best doc Ive seen on subject. Makes JFK look like a comic book.
JFK wasn’t a documentary. Did you not know that?