The Fastest 4 Star Teams! | Genshin 4.4 Abyss CN Speedrunning Meta Overview
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- disclaimer: these competitions are not meant for pvp, it's for improving your gameplay. you're not supposed to use this to say X team better than Y team just because someone got these results in this abyss. don't worry about comparing the times too much. speedrunning is really about learning how to optimise your favourite character and how to build and tactically play their teams. so for example you can compare your hu tao with some elses hu tao, and learn how to play her better, but dont go comparing your hu tao with a neuvillette or diluc run, cause its completely different. basically, i like sharing speedrunning tips with you guys, and becoming better players, but I dislike tier lists and pointless comparisons. I want to continue making vids like this to help spread good knowledge and learning practical gameplay from speedruns, so Ihope we can avoid pointless debates in our community.
timestamps:
0:00 four star cup intro!
0:43 serpent spine and buff cards
1:43 try out some new teams and strats!
2:27 analysing the current abyss
4:00 one rotation and energy recharge requirements
4:42 melt gaming
5:43 gaming positioning tip (important!)
6:54 beidou chevreuse overload
9:10 sucrose national?
9:40 speedrunners can be busy
11:02 faruzan dps?
12:06 final thoughts
12:57 last minute win!
gameplay credits (and more sources with links in the translated sheet):
gaming melt runs by 飞行矮矮堇瓜 and 洛昕Neri丶
sucrose national by 浅丶柒 with Loki's account
beidou chevreuse overload by 本人无需共鸣
faruzan heizou team by QiQi不响丸辽
my translated four star cup overview sheet (links to runs) docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
original nga thread ngabbs.com/read.php?tid=39171...
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I think another reason why they're delaying the plunge on Gaming is to cheat out one additional plunge, you can only get 6 if you spam, but if you wait to catch the lion mid-air before your plunge, you can get 7. Either way, great video YEP
Zajef will u be interested in doing a video about góod 4* characters like a simplified guide that many ppl overlooked upon units
People forget C6 instructor Diona gives 320 EM to the active character
And 15% crit rate from cryo resonance, which forward melt Gaming can take advantage of
What reaction is diona triggering? Enemy has cryo aura on it, u apply cryo and nothing happens. (And if they have pyro...gg melts)
420 with elegy
@@mickysaifbro if ur trying to melt just use Rosa u ainna melt with any of the cryo applic which makes em pretty useless
@@whisperwalkful yeah exactly, Bennett is the only instructor holder that makes sense in that rotation ahaha
Some people have brain rotttt
Faruzan is very loved in CN community bcs of her voice line and similarities to Hatsune Miku, Faruzan mains always use her to solo abyss
These speed running overviews are pretty interesting to see, please consider doing them every patch
Faruzan is one of my fav chars so I've been a fan of her dps playstyle ever since. Especially now that I finally got her c6 (it feels bad before c6 ngl). Hyper faruzan with furina bennett jean is one of my fav teams in the game now.
why does everyone play jean in this comp? i get, that she has alot of synergy with everyone in this team but she really doesnt offer anything, that the team actually needs. you will still get interrupted and she doesnt add alot of dmg either.
@@ladderlappen4585 Jean enables sunfire in this team which is actually huge because it allows Furina to vape.
I play her in kazuha xianyun furina team. That team allows her to run basically 0 er cs of kazuha Es and xianyun so her dmg is very high. MH crit kazuha here also is dealing a lot of dmg himself cs all the buffs and adding to crazy crowd control
Great work and showcase, really gald to have you cover this otherwise none-exisiting type of content on youtube. If i may suggest one thing though I'd love to see longer videos related to these, it could be simply just be you analysing over all the top teams speedruns as they go or a live reaction or just the interesting findings you saw yourself after you previewed them.
maybe we can do a vid for EN with my discord 🤔
I really looked around and haven't seen anyone else do that gaming technique on this side but I knew some chinese players would be actually dedicated enough to find it.
Delaying his plunges just a little is ironically a really good dps increase compared to what I've seen in sheets, as it allows him to get several more skill uses. On perfect conditions he could get like 9-10 skill uses but that's way too rng so good luck to anyone trying to get that high, my max is 8 and it took hours LMAO
Yeah, it's honestly such a cool tech since it takes advantage that Gaming's skill starts cd on press, but Manchai isn't spawned until the plunge. So as long as you catch Manchai in between pressing skill and plunging, you can basically squeeze in more skill plunges since you can now spend the time waiting for Manchai with the skill's leaping animation + the repositioning stuff in the video, rather than mucking around on the ground.
I liked it a lot too, and ofc the CN community also found it. It's just not too consistent, but hey it's fun when it works.
I liked seeing Sara in overload with Chevreuse here, as well as that dual DPS team with Faruzan and Heizou. Overall, most of the expected 4* were there with a few surprises.
beidou is literally so good this abyss.
i've never gotten 30 second clear on any character outside of neuvillette but with her she can consistently clear each of the first half chambers in under 30 seconds
I’ve messed around with DPS C6 Faruzan in overworld: very unforgiving without resistance to interruption because if you are swirling, there are a lot of effects on screen making it difficult to aim your charged attacks while looking out for incoming attacks.
I really like Faruzan’s grouping because you can pull enemies to a spot that you aimed at.
Thanks for the video! I like these “low cost” speed run outlines since it provides builds that can provide a challenge.
Absolutely love these Competition videos. I would love if you cover more of these and hope we start making our own competitions
love this cup’s concept looking forward to more cups like this in future abysses!
Amazing content, great insights. You are a gem for the game's community.
Awesome teams! Clever ruleset that rewards different lineups as well. Thanks for covering this jamie. I'm inspired to try a few new things myself 😄
Thank you for uploading ☺️, looking forward for more uploads in this kind of content, subscribed!
Really good coverage of all the goings on. Funny enough i can recall fooling around with team just like that for Yoimiya, but no i wouldn't have thought of that at all, i think for Gaming at least in this one rotation context with enemies lined up as they are it makes way more sense and i know some people like rooting for same teams/players but its nice to see different winners from time to time.
Would be cool to see some low cost 5* included teams, originally those were what got me into paying attention to NGA, but all this is good. Happy to see Beidou back in action and appreciate the update regarding Fischl in aggravate too (those were and still are my two favorite so always hope in some context they are doing well!)
That Gaming tech is pretty cool, I was able to get c6 faruzan recently so I will probably be building her in the near future.
I'd love speedrunning events, that sounds so fun!
I've been playing heizou(c3) plunge with furina(c0), xianyun(c0), and faruzan(c6) a ton. I used gaming(c6) for this current abyss but I keep going back to heizou plunge and keqing aggravate. I'm gonna go for furina c1 on her rerun that way my plunge teams are stronger.
DPS Faruzan is very fun, it's a bit like DPS Bennett where being the DPS and the buffer frees up a team slot for an additional buffer/off-field dps. However unlike Bennett she doesn't have a lot of good option for that fourth slot. Nonetheless it's surprisingly strong, I like playing it with bennett, furina and jean. In that version, jean deals significant damage herself, and you can use her E in between faruzan's 2 charged shots while her E is on cooldown to deal damage and generate energy. She also provides fanfare stacks, obviously, and pyro application through sunfire which allows your Furina to vape her hits while it's up
I tried main dps Faruzan when she was not yet C6 and before Furina came out, it was not too bad but I couldn't clear floor 12 with that team (it had Zhongli which is obviously not great damage wise but I had no other option back then, and Kazuha as a sort of dual / sub dps as well as for his ability to group, and of course bennett). Now with Furina and Jean or Xianyun + Faruzan's C6, I feel like it's time to try that once more. Out of curiosity, what artifacts do you give her ? Last time I gave her 2pc anemo + 2pc atk, with an anemo dmg goblet. Is that good for her ? Also, how much ER does she need ? I'd imagine not that much with C6 + longer on-field time than usual
@@clementlassalle4317 2pc 2pc works fine, it's what I used. Feels more than comfortable at 128% ER. It's probably fine lower but ER needs are always gonna vary so I like having a bit more. I put furina on fav but jean was on amenoma because I like her mini-nukes
Always wanted a nice Heizou team to play, will try this one with Faruzan, Benny and Xiangling!
Happy to help!
Great informative video as always. If I may give a suggestion, it would be great to see which artifact sets each charas on the team has on the excel sheet. The Gaming, Diona, Rosaria, Bennett team interest me most. Thanks!
Good idea. I will see if I have time to add that if not will do it next time
@@jamiekb9v Thanks for replying, keep up the awesome work! 🤩👍
That Gaming melt team was what I thought of immediately when I saw his kit! Finally a pyro carry that nukes properly! I've seen people one shot abyss chambers with a single Hu Tao burst inside Ganyu's burst, but hers is just the once. Gaming delivers nukes every few seconds, slow enough to regenerate the cryo aura but frequent enough to provide ridiculous damage per rotation. Really glad to see it dominating the speed runs. Unfortunately my Gaming is c0 so I haven't even gotten around to trying it myself but with Diona's EM share, Rosaria's CR share and Benny's busted buff I figured it was going to be super strong!
yes! more more more ^^
Thundering fury faruzan is one of my favorite teams to clear domains with. I don't think it's quite there yet for abyss, and I'm a relatively new player and don't have pieces for her outside of VV or TF yet, but stuff like her in a Sunfire/Furina team is something I really want to try out.
I mean, I do want to play Faruzan "dps", even Faruzan hyper, because I like her, but despite 70 ish wishes on the 3.8 wanderer banner, she is still C0 (I even only have her because she was given in an event)
Otherwise, the video was interesting, I do think that the rules for serpent spine refines (and battle pass weapons in general) are a bit weird, especially since they make rules to equalize cards but they don't do anything about that, (for exemple, a tidal shadow vs an R5 serpent spine is a huge difference) but overall it's not a huge deal since it's still interesting to watch
I always use Bennett's burst before Faruzan because I love to see high numbers with her
Nice
i liked to use dps Faruzan in open world from character release, now i interested to see how it be to run abyss. but anyway, i mostly use Wanderer (with VV set)
¿Chiori ??
Haras análisis de baner para el pueblo 🥺🥺🥺?
Saludos
I recently got C6 Faruzan and I've been enjoying her as a main Dps.
I ended up running Faruzan, Albedo, Bennett, Layla -- the grouping from Faruzan allows Albedo to deal more damage and potentially get in some quadratic scaling, Albedo's elevator made dealing with the flying summon a lot more consistent, and Layla being cryo allows Bennett to melt his burst.
The only downside is that Faruzan and Albedo scale off of different stats and Faruzan's anemo buffs don't buff any of the other team members...
faruzan with bennett and furina is really strong in aoe scenarios. sadly these are the only 2 characters that can increase her dmg. if we could fill the last slot with a third significant dmg buff, i wouldnt be surprised, to see her out dps wanderer. right now, xiangling is probably the best option for the last slot.
for the current first half abyss i used charlotte. freeze and faruzan are great together.
where does the sucrose national account post their vid
I really like these cup videos. Especially since most people wouldn’t otherwise know anything about CN speedrunning
weird how you are implying that only one dude runs sucrose national lol. especially as ming is a brand new character.
Whats the name of the song in the background?
さみしいおばけと東京の月 by Sharou
Bennett GIGACHAD 😎
Host us some cups :)
yo which is better on collei? nobblesse or emblem on nilou bloom
emblem
and why is it?@@jamiekb9vwont noblesse buff ur whole team?
why is that>? wont nobleese buff the whole team>?
@@fanachAttack dosen't buff bloom damage.
10:16 What is this stand for? (19+21+17)
the times of each chamber
@@jamiekb9v Thanks 🙏
Stringless Faruzan 🤔
I'm surprised by how good Gaming is even a C0. At C6 he is comparable to 5 stars
Pyro units dominating the 4* speedrun teams. All teams here have 2 pyro units with Bennet in every single team. Also, aside from the usual Bennet and Xiangling pair, we can also see Gaming and Chevreuse pulling their own weight.
Also, there is not even at least 1 Dendro team on the list. Probably because of the absence of Nahida.
not just lack of nahida but also lack of good 4 star dendro dps units
Pyro is just superior at high investment due to the higher damage ceiling of melt and vaporize reactions. Also because Bennett is just broken in multiple ways.
Even after they released a character so broken on paper (Chevreuse) it can barely compete.
Dendro can never achieve that, it is easier to play but the ceiling is much lower.
Dendro only have one potential that is burning, and let Cryo attacker melt on it. However there is no reliable way to shred cryo resist with this concept, as you will play 4 different elements (Cryo, pyro, dendro and anemo). If they release a 4-star cryo, pyro or dendro character that shred cryo resistance (much the same way as Chevreuse) this can change.
I guess dendro MC might have also been banned, since he's technically a 5*
Why the hell is a random new 4* a better Pyro DPS than Dehya? I don't fkin understand. 😑
Liyue Character so has to be good, female brown skin character has to be trash 😂
in your previous post a comment said gaming will be the top of competition yet you said he's not even close and now you show that he actually is 🙂
Cups usually get faster runs later on
@@jamiekb9vwhat do you mean? I don't get it
Faruzan has secretly been better than Xiao for a long time now
With some C6 4 stars being equal or better than C0 5 stars these results are…interesting. If only Hoyo gave a damn and gave us meaningful combat related endgame #BoycottGenshin
But their is always the argument that to guarantee a c6 four star you can guarantee yourself a c2 five star. Yes it takes that many pulls on average to get a four star.
"I really enjoy Faruzan here, because I love her, but I hate Xiao and Wanderer"... oh, isn't what you said? I thought...
No I just said in her normal support teams we don’t get to see her dmg potential with a proper weapon and team buffs 💪
@@jamiekb9vshe gets buffed by furina if you're using her. I just never look at it because I'm watching wanderer's damage.
@@MrJayslayerjay My Wanderer is already in the top 1% on Akasha so it is hard to improve him further. So I have started to work on Faruzan personal damage a bit since I sometimes use her with Furina. It is quite noticeable when she is paired with Furina.