Squeeze, not Pull Rather than pulling, think of it like squeezing the side of a toothpaste tube. This ensures a constant motion from front to back, helping to hold the gun steady throughout the firing process. a ``pull'' implies force applied in one direction, like with a rope. A ``squeeze'' implies force from all sides equally, like with a sponge. Squeezing the trigger, regardless of how quickly it is done, is better from a stability standpoint, and therefore more accurate for putting rounds into the target
@@theedude8265yeah i agree maybe next to the mag release you could add a mechanism to tap with your finger without applying much pressure it would probably be more accurate i wonder how that would work out.
@@Dane_Shorter I’d be super interested to see how that works! I’m sure that there is some handicap-accessible work up they have out there for something of that degree. If not you got a million dollar idea
@theedude8265 you realize this entire video was to prove that "squeezing" the trigger isn't as important as most ppl think it is. So long as your finger is pushing that trigger straight back.
@@Jay-kf3od 🤷♂️ I’ll take the advice of multiple articles written by vets who’ve seen war countless time on how to squeeze a trigger. Or my brother who was in the Navy for 10 years.
Its not the jerking of the trigger, it's the accessory muscles involved in jerking the trigger that will twist your hand in unpredictable ways if you aren't comfortable with shooting
Nobody is seeing what is happening. By holding the ratchet against the gun, The gunfires and the slide goes to the rear, then the slide hammer's forward and the ratchet in his hand it are still against the trigger guard holding the gun steady keeping it from having the forward motion. Him pushing backwards when it is fired is a steadying force and the stored motion of the guns slide speeds forward when the slide returns and its energy is imparted. He is stopping the gun from trying to exit his hands in the forward direction thus steadying the gun more than it would be. The slide moves to the rear and back to the chambered position faster than he can get his palm off of the ratchet and even faster than he can stop in parting force when he hits the ratchet. Also applying rearward pressure as the gun is firing & wanting to come up is no different than having a handle coming 90° off the barrel 4 feet long and you pushing backwards keeping it from flying forward & up.
It’s about your trigger technique, if you apply sideways torque before you reach the force required to fire you’re pulling the barrel off target. Usually it’s caused by your hand clenching in anticipation of the round or you’re not pulling the trigger straight with the pad of your finger
no, its about grip. th-cam.com/users/shortsy-3OzuewcM4?feature=shared You can slap the trigger any way you want, the best competitive shooters on earth are slapping the trigger. Your grip is the most important
@@mynameisjeff6988 it's grip and trigger technique. I've seen folks pull the trigger while changing grip. Semantics at this point. You see that as a grip issue, the other half see it as a trigger issue. Not arguing semantics, especially amongst the 2a folks who still have caliber debates.. 😂 💀
The distance between the butt of the pistol and trigger compared to the size of your hand will also make a difference.. longer distance will be more susceptible to pull the barrel off target while firing. There are more factors than this as well, like how light or heavy the compression of the trigger is.
@@justinlong688seen him for the last 6 years bro 😂 not sure where u guys seen him I thought he blew up on the Shawn Ryan show though, Rogan was like the last thing he has done
@frima1296 his point is its not going to show any divergence in the grouping from that far. But go to just 3m or 5m and you'll likely see a bigger issue.
It's the leverage your finger imparts to your hand moving the point of aim. Finger out too far = pulling left. Finger in too far = pulling right. Things like that. When he hits the bar, it puts force straight back.
Your finger isn’t moving your wrist in any direction, but the fact that you’re flexing any muscles in your hand during the pull is what causes movement and if you haven’t learned to control that, this is when you start jerking the trigger when you pull it. More factors than just the trigger pull
This worked because the shooters hands were not using any muscles when the gun went off. If you are hammering on the trigger you are likely flexing your hand which will torque the gun left for right handed and right for left handed. Get a red dot for dry fire practice for immediate feedback.
You think the shooter wasn’t using any muscle in his hands, forearms and shoulders? Wonder how I the hell that gun was just floating there and what managed the recoil?
@@Seee-mn1it wanna name how being 2ft away from the target affects the spread? Cause if that target was any farther, the spread would've been accordingly bigger
I don't think I really get what he's trying to demonstrate at all. Is it supposed to be squeeze the trigger vs pull the trigger? If that's all, this guy is a LARPing genuine "regard". Telling people to squeeze the trigger instead of pull it is to keep newbies and other "regards" from hurting themselves or other people. If you've got experience, you can just do it your own way. What this guy is preaching is basically like "it's actually demonstrably ok to clock people with a loaded gun as long as they don't get hit with a bullet".
The problem is your compromising your grip to pull the trigger. Your finger movement is gonna adjust your hand. So when you jerk the trigger, you’re also jerking your hand.
Well sir. Hands do not work like metal dowels. It's a series of long bands (muscles/tendons) that have a natural motion of a cup and not a straight physical line. That's why there's pulling the trigger and squeezing the trigger. Same kind of action, yet two sets of motions
Finger isolation. If you pull your hand to the left, your shot will go to the left. If you pull your hand and not isolate your finger it will go to the direction of the pull.Trigger jerk is a natural response to the loud noise created by firing a gun and the movement of the gun in the hands when it fires. It comes from a part of the brain that could be termed the "crisis-control center"12. Some believe that the trigger finger imparts some sort of gun-moving force on the trigger during shooting3
Right, I think his example does a great job of showing exactly how finger isolation is a key issue, that you can slap that trigger as hard as you want as long as you isolate, pull straight back, and grip well enough to keep it on target.. But his application of it seems off; he applies it in a way that the demonstration itself doesn't actually support.
Because holding youre entire hand still while an external force moves the trigger is completely different to trying to hold your hand still while moving parts of your hand with the force to pull the trigger comes from the same source as the one holding it steady.
It’s not always an anticipation, you have to understand the real factors that go into this. Anticipation means moving the gun prior to ignition, anticipating the recoil a muzzle flip that’s not what he’s talking about here. Besides anticipation presents as low. If it presents low left for a right handed shooter or low right for a left-handed shooter then there are other factors in it. That’s the readjustment of the grip as you’re pressing a trigger, if you cannot move your trigger finger independently from all the muscles in the hand that are already gripping the gun then that is the failure. Anticipation is regarded as low stripes so far left right up all those other factors have everything to do with not being able to independently press the trigger without moving any of the other muscles. You could do a dry why don’t you do it hot? Dry practice gets you in the appropriate headspace for pressing the trigger however, most dodo birds have a tendency to believe that what is going to occur prior to ignition is different from when you were doing dry practice to actually firing the weapon.
@ When people flinch, they squeeze their hand, anticipating the noise and recoil. They are trying to make the gun go off instead of letting the gun go off.
My biggest problem is and has been anticipation. It ruins my grip, kills my concetration, and makes my trigger pull inconsistent. It's just tough to find time to train that out.
@@percyfaith11true, like when you’re at the range and go to fire your gun but you forgot your safety is still on, you notice how much you instinctively jerk or anticipate the shot.
Opposite. Lot of people only pull with one finger sloppy sideways and wtvr instead of the whole hand holding firm and just squeezing. So this excercise is almost worthless.
I concur. I'll never forget when I was younger shooting a new pistol, I slowly put the finger squeeze in action, and right when the trigger should've broke, my hand twitched in anticipation of the gunfire. My safety was on. No "bang", but I jumped like it fired. I learned an interesting lesson that day.
@@ryanhopkins6090that reminds me of when my dad and I were getting my stepmom to shoot. Anticipating the noise would cause that big flinch so we had her just begin to empty a couple mags to desensitize herself to the boom and it made a huge difference when she went back to practicing.
Practice and familiarity are top tier for sure. Someone's reflexes under extreme circumstances are unpredictable also. Victims are usually the unprepared.
It is about the anticipation of recoil..the mind automatically perceives a kick back when you squeeze..your muscles in your arm contract in anticipation of recoil. If you are first starting you train yourself to slightly squeeze the trigger so you dont exactly know when it will fire..after you get used to doing that it becomes automatic..your brain tricks you into flinching..
@@Anonymous8317Wait a minute are you saying that he has more training experience than him or more experience training than him, you got me all puzzled here bud.
It’s your brain easing pressure off your support hand while it’s putting more computing power to operating the trigger. Which is why repetition will train this away; not strengthening your support hand you’re training your brain to maintain equal pressure on your entire grip through the entire process of firing, absorbing recoil, and resetting, all in one motion.
Firstly, let the trigger surprise you. Do not think about the exact moment the shot will break. Trying to control the exact moment of fire is what causes the most flinching. Secondly, you’ll need to practice your grip. Firm grips are already tightened muscles, so they naturally flinch less. Focus on gripping with your pinky and ring fingers to let the other half of your hand relax. Make it tight, strong, and keep it constant. Those two fingers will do the most work with recoil control anyways so it’s good they are tight, but your index finger needs to be stay relaxed. You keep it relaxed by letting the trigger surprise you like I mentioned earlier. I find relaxing my thumb and middle finger helps me relax my trigger finger even further, but that may just be me. Hope this helps.
I’m going to disagree that anticipating the shot is necessarily a bad thing. Once you get to a certain point, actively managing recoil can help decrease the intervals between shots. The old wisdom that it’s best to let the trigger break surprise you is useful for beginners who need to train out flinch, but when you get more comfortable with your weapon, learning to work with it can take you to that next level. Both of the above can be useful, depending on your skill level. Dry fire practice in particular can help you learn when the break happens so you can figure out how to actively manage recoil.
Smacking a rod is not equivalent to pulling a trigger. You’re striking quickly and straight back without having any of the other contributing factors and forces at play and the guy holding the gun doesn’t have to worry about making sure he pulls straight back without disturbing his aim.
@@joshuasimmons6443 in all honesty, I never figured out what point he was trying to make. For me, he didn’t make any point at all. And what you’re suggesting makes even less sense. Is it not YOU pulling the trigger?
You can develop the muscle memory necessary to keep sights on target during dryfire practice. While gripping the handgun with one hand, aim at a small dot on the wall. Pull the trigger harder than necessary to break a shot while keeping the sights aligned on target. The hand muscles will learn quickly. Train both hands.
Myth, this is absolutely a thing and is why I literally missed every shot I took from only 7-10 feet away my first time shooting my pistol. I realized the problem and now I can make groups from 2x that distance.
The shooter and the weapon are too close to the target, for trigger slap to affect the accuracy. However, I understand what he means. It's the rest of the hand constricting that adds to the low and left results, which is commonly attributed to trigger slap.
It's often a result of someone sticking their finger too far through the trigger guard. People who don't understand finger placement get a firearm that is kind of short between the backstrap and the trigger, and don't keep the pad of their finger on the trigger. Or they just have long hans/fingers. Of course, people with short fingers pull to the right. That is all assuming a rh shooter. LH shooters will experience the opposite.
You demonstrated why fast lock time is important, not that jerking the trigger has no effect. Do the same drill but instead slowly and add in some sideways motion, you will get spread in your shot pattern. This is some good stuff to know to get fast however, especially at shorter ranges, knowing that you can basically run that trigger back as fast as you are able and that the shot will break before you are too far off target is valuable information. A lot of us train using this “rushed” technique, for the second shot in double tap pairs as this works especially well when your natural point of aim has been previously established. Well aimed shot followed by what is essentially a controlled trigger jerk as soon as the shooter is able to bring the sights back to its original position.
Context matters -- If the trainer's point is to teach grip fundamentals -- that pulling the trigger hard itself isn't going to throw off the shot so long as your grip is good then he's right -- a hard pull, even a slap or "jerk", will be on target so long as your grip is firm enough to keep it there. So it depends, he could be right or he could be wrong (cue Billy Joel) -- just depends on the context.
Part of the context being that the target is maybe further away than 4 inches? I could hit center of center mass while hitting my trigger with a semi truck, 100% of the time at that distance.
@@boyeatsworld-vr9ci So I found and watched a full video of him talking about this and, frankly, I think he's just wrong. He included even anticipation as part of the myth which is easily shown as real. His use of a ratchet completely removes sympathetic movement from the equation which means it's not really a good example. I'm sure he's a fine trainer, but I think he's being nitpicky and is himself missing the point and overstating it as a "myth". To be controversial?? I don't know, but now that I've seen him give the lesson in full context I have to conclude he's mostly just wrong, either that or he's making his point very poorly.
And also, yes, he does this demonstration at such ridiculously short ranges that it's effectively meaningless -- he even did this demo with a rifle... at the same distance.
I believe the term is "anticipation." By anticipating the recoil, the hand will jerk downward causing the bullet to hit below the desired aim point. I've lost track of how many times I saw that happen while I was active duty training new security team members. I wish I'd had cell phones then to video them and be able to show them exactly what they were doing. USN Ret '93
This is truth. I literally just went through my firearms instructor class and my instructor Chad Thompson did a drill similar to this. He called it the steering and gas drill. We held the master grip and aimed while he squeezed the trigger.
For anyone thinking of critiquing this man’s technique, and there’s a lot of people here who think they are qualified too 😂, you may want to do some research first. That man is John McPhee
It doesn’t matter who they are if the advice is bs. That’s the issue with people like you. You’re just like… because X Y or X said this thing then that automatically makes it true because they’re the best at what they do and or are famous for something. I’m not saying this is good or bad advice, just pointing out your flawed way of thinking. Learn to think on your own it can do you a lot of good.
The same guy that said reflex sights are not as good as iron sights because you have to be straight on to see the dot.... he may have been good back in his time, but as with time and technology, things change. He teaches old tricks for a new rule book. He's as irrelevant as the old trick. And his example... conditional were not perfect no matter his explanation there will always be trigger jerk because of our natural motion.
@@bigbadchevyyou in fact do need to have nearly perfect alignment to see a dot on a pistol. I mean, not you of course, you are a ninja. But yes literally everyone else on the planet besides you , to include Delta operators like this man.
@TR-rf7jv you do not...even cheap reflex sights are parallax corrected as soon as you pull the reflex up you can see the dot as long as you have it sighted in correctly no matter what angle you look through the sight window as long as you can see the dot thats where the barrel is aiming. Maybe back when he was in service you had to be straight on but not the case anymore. You can move your head around a lot without losing the dot in your sight window.
Its because when alot people “jerk the trigger” its not that theyre pulling too hard back, its that they are pulling the muzzle to the right (in most cases) when you fire from your finger not being placed properly on the trigger
I worked as a range officer and a teachers assistant in jr shooting classes and we always taught "trigger PUSH" rather than "trigger PULL" to get that in theyre mindset that we dont want to pull the trigger but we want to be slowly pushing the trigger back. (Mainly to practice good form, technique, habits blah blah..) cuz "pulling" they think of using theyre whole hand. But "pushing" is just a single finger motion. Also straight back and not pushing at an angle. Speed comes with comfortability and practice. Same went for rifles
As I learned a LONG time ago before it was called a “military contractor” at hot spots in the world-have a death grip on the gun so it does not move from your intended poi, either with sighting or point/shoot, then pull the trigger until the intended target is no longer there. It worked on the range and, more important, actual battle. This needing a certain part of your finger on a trigger is not true. You lose dexterity under stress. You will not know what part of your finger is on the trigger when someone is really doing their best to end your great day. Or pulling your trigger with a tool! It is great he is showing how this works to STILL dispel the myths out there so many years later- but glad this professional is. I definitely do the same teaching my classes. You can have someone else pull the trigger as long as you have the gun pointed where you want poi. Keep it simple.
Not a myth, When the person holding the gun pulls the trigger They may move in anti solar ion (anticipation I mean) and the hand may pull the muzzle to the side A two person assist like this take away both of the normal causes This is a dumb exercise Trigger jerk is 100% real and needs to be trained out of a person
When a person is jerking the trigger it creates something called target panic which is found in archery pretty often. It makes you punch the trigger the second you get on target which is far harder to repeat the the same exact pull and squeeze every time.
I pull hard right with my SW due to the tight trigger. Has zero to do with perking but the dynamics of leverage, fulcrum etc as I pull the tighter trigger.
Isn’t the wrench also providing more stability? Look at the way the trigger is pushed it’s a direct backwards force in a linear motion There’s a counterbalance to the actual manner of pulling the trigger
breathing, sight picture, and trigger squeeze are the factors. when you pull the trigger, you tend to slightly rotate your wrist. also guy is shooting point blank...
The problem is when you try to engage your trigger finger unless you’re very disciplined it can cause your aim to sway. This is why squeezing is better as it engages the whole hand rather than just 1 small part of the hand.. making it a more stable shot.
The finger doesn’t move front to back naturally, it curls inwards imparting a slight sideways or twisting force. The guy is hitting the trigger straight back which does not mimic the movement of a finger.
Tight grip, and squeeze. Problem is, like most, when you first start shooting your natural instinct is to not only anticipate recoil but squeeze your grip more when you pull the trigger making you move the muzzle around, even slightly..
You can technically see trigger pull happening by just gripping your phone sideways, with one side being the back of the grip and the other side acting as the trigger. If you tighten your grip, depending on how you move your finger the alignment of your phone will either remain stationary or turn away slightly from your palm. More or less the same mechanism.
Its because newer shooters try to pull the gun while opposing it or get nervous and, invariably, tilt the barrel up. Then intermediate shooters have a tendency to expect the recoil and try to oppose that force ultimately tilting the barrel down. Experienced shooters have the same issue but typically can account for it through learning their weapon system, stabilizing on a fixed object or being looser when they goto shoot.
Most people try to anticipate the recoil instead of letting it just do its thing and kick back, thus resulting in poor accuracy and “bullet jumping” when looking at a target. Don’t anticipate the gun firing and trying to control it, a good way to practice this is gently squeezing the trigger till the round fires off to get the feeling of being more confident in holding the firearm. Also don’t forget to exhale on the squeeze.
Depends I have to watch my trigger pull as if I choke to much up on the finger it pulls my shot grouping right but if I make sure I stay on my finger tip and pull straight back I’m substantially more accurate. When he did this example the ratchet is going straight back every time not accounting for finger pull and curl.
Last time I shot something, .457 was definitely jumping in my hand and I had to re grip each time. It’s not about missing the first shot, it’s not letting squeezing the trigger misalign you and not letting it escape your grip. Especially a caliber like that it’s gonna be moving around in your hands. It’s always going to land on the center pin when using the sights to line up your shot. It’s not a video game
The pull isn't caused because of the trigger pull. It's is because when people pull that finger they are also moving their other fingers. Thats what cause the low and left. The other fingers squeeze tighter as the trigger is pulled. This causes the grip to rotate counter clockwise as it turns with the fingers and since the other fingers are lower then the trigger finger is causes grip to pull into lower palm more. Simple, just move the 1 finger. Try it. Hold your hand like your holding your carry, and squeeze your trigger finger. The other fingers move just slightly?
He was hitting the trigger with the same part of the ratchet each time. He wasn’t hitting the trigger at an angle. When u squeeze the trigger and put more pressure on one side of the trigger it will pull to the side. If you have a good stance and proper grip it you can be accurate at short to medium range but longer range with a pistol you have to have proper trigger pull “squeeze”
He's trying to work out what called "anticipating the shot" where you would push the weapon forward to compensate for recoil. The body will push before the round leaves the barrel causing it to strike low
That’s because you still went straight back with the trigger it’s not about how hard or fast the trigger goes back it’s about how far your finger is in or outside of the trigger and whether you squeeze straight backwards or pull or push it
It's the side load that people put on the trigger they pull the trigger towards the palm of their hand and it tips your AimPoint off... This compounds with extended range. Notice the ratchet being struck has no side load. It only goes straight back, the lack of friction on the metal handle of the ratchet will negate any sideload put on it.
Alot of criticism given to the delta operator who did singleton mission. Dude was one of the first guys on the ground in Afghanistan and Iraq. Hes probably forgot more about tactical shooting than most of us will ever know. Pretty awesome the respect given to a true American worrier!
It’s the surprise factor that makes it work if you know you are pulling the trigger you know it’s about to go off and you know it’s going to recoil so your hand grips tighter and your wrist locks up. I was always taught always aim. Just aim. And slowly without thinking about it add more pressure to the trigger all while only thinking about aiming and then let the shot surprise you. Because if you really know it’s coming. Most likely your body and nervous system does too.
Its not about how hard you squeeze your finger. Its more about pulling the gun slightly in the direction of your finger when suddenly pulling the triger.
Trigger jerk is real because the muscles you use to pull the trigger stretches the tendons in the wrist. It's a real factor that 99.9+% need to train out of
Trigger jerk is definitely a factor, but so to is the lower 3 fingers of the trigger hand. You've got to be able to differentiate and diagnose the two of those, among other things. Shooting a pistol accurately AND rapidly is damn near an art form lol
Your index finger squeezing will activate your adductor pollicis probe andnpull the gun right. The trick is to simultaneously push the trigger left to offset it. Thats ehy pros tell you to use the pad of your finger instead of using your finger like a hook. Using the pad will limit the muscle reflex and slightly push left. But that only helps people that sufder from THAT issue. If you're hitting right, and your gun has multiple backstraps, try the biggest one you have. It may help. If it does, watch your hand while using it and see how it is changing your trigger pull.
When it comes to the pistol, it's when you pull the trigger without good grip you drift the gun towards one side or the other before you fire the weapon
This proves that trigger jerk is real. Its how the muscles in the handle naturally work. Its the reason why new shooters (right handed) tend to shoot low\left. After time and practice you learn to isolate the movements in the hand for clean shots.
When most people squeeze a trigger they unintentionally flex their thumb at the same time this can twist or push down the back of the gun as they pull the trigger. When I was young I noticed myself doing this and it took a while to get myself to the point that I no longer flex my thumb when I pull the trigger it
I always assumed it was from pulling the trigger slight to one side or the other while squeezing it cause the recoil to be off center and not braced properly.
Because "trigger jerk" happens before the trigger releases the firing pin. Here he just hits the trigger, and it fires before the trigger bottoms out and slamming the gun, effectively putting the trigger jerk after gun fired.
Close range is not a factor. It's when the target is further down range. The trigger jerk factor grows as the target gains distance. Also, try this again just using the ratchet without using your other hand.
It’s not the jerk that creates the inaccuracy! It’s the flinching or moving of the grip or arms that is holding the firearm! Create a bomb proof hold and grip of your pistol or any firearm for that matter then all the jerking of the trigger is completely irrelevant. Just as it has been shown here create spectacular fundamentals and there isn’t a target you can shoot to the limits of the firearm you are shooting. Great video even better demonstration.🫡 Never mind the instructor is one of the best spec ops veterans on the planet!
Ofcourse if you remove the rest of the hand from the movement, you’ll have less sway. That’s essentially what we practice. To pull the trigger back relatively smooth sorta isolated from the rest of the muscles in your hand. Then For all those muscles to be at peace/balance/with enough grip to handle the recoil/follow up. You’re pulling the trigger for him…
It’s from “clenching” the gun. Hold your hand out and make a fist as fast as possible. It’s the same with the trigger. If you pull the trigger like you are pulling your fingers into a fist, the gun will twist. Instead, squeeze the trigger, don’t pull it.
When you jerk the trigger you actually tense the muscles and tendons in your wrist which pulls the barrel off target. Even a small movement like 2 mm end up being off by inches on target
The muscles in the finger are applied to the trigger, then all work in conjunction with the hand, wrist and forearm to create shot placement. The person holding the gun is solid as a rock and not incorporating the movement of the finger muscles, which changes literally everything. He's smacking straight back with a smooth metal ratchet while the shooter is solid stone. Of course this "exercise" more accurate than the guy who doesn't know how to hold his pistol and wraps his fingers around the trigger. Those "3 or 4 little factors" are all affected by the movement of the shooter's finger, especially if the shooter is inexperienced and wraps their finger around the trigger. This exercise proves it by removing the trigger finger from the process and applying smooth reward pressure.
The fore-finger is bracing the weapon in the desired direction. That alone provides a muscle memory advantage that promotes motor skill leverage towards the intended aquisition as well as an extention of one's hand-eye coordination. To some new holders, it is a different story without experience what-so-ever, and faults may start from anticipation of the motor control itself, not just the retort, resulting in undesirable reports. If the instructor is preaching about grip, it is likely a hypno-prop for self-awarness and tension control enduring importance of confidence during and after a follow through. Somehow, consistency follows. This instructor is a guru. It's nearly as if a televangelist shook the demons out so you could think less and squeeze good.
Finger jerk pulls the gun to the side and depending on the fit, form and angle of the finger, it pulls the trigger less consistantly than the example. ..his pen pulls rearward and relatively consistantly. Put that pen at a 45° angle everyother round and retest. Thats the true test
You have to train your finger to pull straight backwards because naturally your finger on your right hand wants to Pull down and to the right, same thing with your left hand but to the left
Fact! Jerking the trigger fires muscles in your forearm and shoulder and that leads to your arm bending inward a fraction. There also movement to the right at your wrist from left to right! You can do it right now. Stick your arm out like you have a gun in it and jerk your trigger finger like your shooting and watch your wrist, hand and elbow area. Sure at 3 feet your going to be on target but do the same thing at 7 yards at 10 yards and at 25 yards and your going to miss by a large factor that could make you lose the gun battle against your aggressor. It's always slow its smooth and smooth is fast!
I was making a knife in my backyard (I'm in the UK), a good friend of mine was over, watching the process - he takes a photo and messages McPhee - replied "That's cool!" 😄
Its because people squeeze and pull at the same time. Firm grip steady pull.
Squeeze, not Pull
Rather than pulling, think of it like squeezing the side of a toothpaste tube. This ensures a constant motion from front to back, helping to hold the gun steady throughout the firing process. a ``pull'' implies force applied in one direction, like with a rope. A ``squeeze'' implies force from all sides equally, like with a sponge. Squeezing the trigger, regardless of how quickly it is done, is better from a stability standpoint, and therefore more accurate for putting rounds into the target
@@theedude8265yeah i agree maybe next to the mag release you could add a mechanism to tap with your finger without applying much pressure it would probably be more accurate i wonder how that would work out.
@@Dane_Shorter I’d be super interested to see how that works! I’m sure that there is some handicap-accessible work up they have out there for something of that degree. If not you got a million dollar idea
@theedude8265 you realize this entire video was to prove that "squeezing" the trigger isn't as important as most ppl think it is. So long as your finger is pushing that trigger straight back.
@@Jay-kf3od 🤷♂️ I’ll take the advice of multiple articles written by vets who’ve seen war countless time on how to squeeze a trigger. Or my brother who was in the Navy for 10 years.
Its not the jerking of the trigger, it's the accessory muscles involved in jerking the trigger that will twist your hand in unpredictable ways if you aren't comfortable with shooting
2 feet away
Last the fingers specially
Your finger doesn't pull straight back either
Nobody is seeing what is happening. By holding the ratchet against the gun, The gunfires and the slide goes to the rear, then the slide hammer's forward and the ratchet in his hand it are still against the trigger guard holding the gun steady keeping it from having the forward motion. Him pushing backwards when it is fired is a steadying force and the stored motion of the guns slide speeds forward when the slide returns and its energy is imparted. He is stopping the gun from trying to exit his hands in the forward direction thus steadying the gun more than it would be. The slide moves to the rear and back to the chambered position faster than he can get his palm off of the ratchet and even faster than he can stop in parting force when he hits the ratchet. Also applying rearward pressure as the gun is firing & wanting to come up is no different than having a handle coming 90° off the barrel 4 feet long and you pushing backwards keeping it from flying forward & up.
Was gonna say this too, but also being a good away
It’s about your trigger technique, if you apply sideways torque before you reach the force required to fire you’re pulling the barrel off target. Usually it’s caused by your hand clenching in anticipation of the round or you’re not pulling the trigger straight with the pad of your finger
Which part of the finger are you supposed to use? The middle or end?
Yep. This was my issue for a long time. Takes practice like anything else...
no, its about grip.
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You can slap the trigger any way you want, the best competitive shooters on earth are slapping the trigger. Your grip is the most important
@@mynameisjeff6988 it's grip and trigger technique. I've seen folks pull the trigger while changing grip. Semantics at this point. You see that as a grip issue, the other half see it as a trigger issue. Not arguing semantics, especially amongst the 2a folks who still have caliber debates.. 😂 💀
The distance between the butt of the pistol and trigger compared to the size of your hand will also make a difference.. longer distance will be more susceptible to pull the barrel off target while firing. There are more factors than this as well, like how light or heavy the compression of the trigger is.
The Sheriff of Baghdad speaks truth.
You only know Shrek from rogan
He once did a solo mission where he drove a transport truck from one base to another base. By himself
@@justinlong688Lmao. Projecting much. 😂
@@justinlong688seen him for the last 6 years bro 😂 not sure where u guys seen him I thought he blew up on the Shawn Ryan show though, Rogan was like the last thing he has done
@@justinlong688most people know Shrek for the last 10 years. He’s in books, etc. shrek was big before Rogan or Shawn Ryan
Perfect. From now on you need to carry with the guy and the wrachet.
Ste,wei 😂
Rachet*
If you carried Shrek everywhere you went, you wouldn't need a gun..
Is that the Sheriff of Bagdad? Legend!!!🇺🇸
Nope
Yes, yes it is the sheriff of Baghdad
"Why didn't we see it?"
"Ummmmmm sir we were 1 ft from the target......"
Lmaooo best explanation
It’s a pistol, shouldn’t be far
@frima1296 his point is its not going to show any divergence in the grouping from that far. But go to just 3m or 5m and you'll likely see a bigger issue.
Thought the same… increase the distance to some normal range and you will see it
I've seen people miss by 3 inches at that range
It's the leverage your finger imparts to your hand moving the point of aim.
Finger out too far = pulling left.
Finger in too far = pulling right.
Things like that.
When he hits the bar, it puts force straight back.
Your finger isn’t moving your wrist in any direction, but the fact that you’re flexing any muscles in your hand during the pull is what causes movement and if you haven’t learned to control that, this is when you start jerking the trigger when you pull it. More factors than just the trigger pull
Makes the most sense out of all the replies.
He's also a foot from the target.😅
He’s about 3 feet from the target which is a very realistic situation to be in when considering EDC situations…
Right, you'll barely even see if it is jerking. Do it at 7-10yds and then you'll really see the jerk
Are they trying to see how much aim is affected? Not so much edc? Or as much as edc has to do with accuracy
@@IrishSailor89yea but if you’re 3 feet from the target, there isn’t much that good trigger pull technique will do to guarantee you hit the target.
@@BackedByReasonthats kinda the point no?
This worked because the shooters hands were not using any muscles when the gun went off. If you are hammering on the trigger you are likely flexing your hand which will torque the gun left for right handed and right for left handed. Get a red dot for dry fire practice for immediate feedback.
You think the shooter wasn’t using any muscle in his hands, forearms and shoulders? Wonder how I the hell that gun was just floating there and what managed the recoil?
this is a good way of showing how you can understand one science but not another, flinching is definitely a big factor to accuracy
He's a world champion combat marksman, before I dig into you. Wanna name the other factors he was referring to ?
I'd say anticipation and hesitation
@@Seee-mn1it wanna name how being 2ft away from the target affects the spread? Cause if that target was any farther, the spread would've been accordingly bigger
@@dimitrijekrstic7567I've seen plenty of people missed their target from that close lol
I don't think I really get what he's trying to demonstrate at all. Is it supposed to be squeeze the trigger vs pull the trigger? If that's all, this guy is a LARPing genuine "regard". Telling people to squeeze the trigger instead of pull it is to keep newbies and other "regards" from hurting themselves or other people. If you've got experience, you can just do it your own way. What this guy is preaching is basically like "it's actually demonstrably ok to clock people with a loaded gun as long as they don't get hit with a bullet".
The problem is your compromising your grip to pull the trigger. Your finger movement is gonna adjust your hand. So when you jerk the trigger, you’re also jerking your hand.
Well sir. Hands do not work like metal dowels. It's a series of long bands (muscles/tendons) that have a natural motion of a cup and not a straight physical line. That's why there's pulling the trigger and squeezing the trigger. Same kind of action, yet two sets of motions
Read about who this man is and what he has done on this planet Earth. Google, "The Sheriff of Bagdad".
He’s called the sheriff of Baghdad look him up before you try to explain what all of us already understand. Idiot.
This guy is former delta force
you aint teaching this guy anything he hasnt forgot kiddo
@@alexbetsworth5357 my comment got deleted
Finger isolation. If you pull your hand to the left, your shot will go to the left. If you pull your hand and not isolate your finger it will go to the direction of the pull.Trigger jerk is a natural response to the loud noise created by firing a gun and the movement of the gun in the hands when it fires. It comes from a part of the brain that could be termed the "crisis-control center"12. Some believe that the trigger finger imparts some sort of gun-moving force on the trigger during shooting3
Correct. You isolate muscle groups to make gun do what you want. The ol saying "your grip is why you're missing."
Right, I think his example does a great job of showing exactly how finger isolation is a key issue, that you can slap that trigger as hard as you want as long as you isolate, pull straight back, and grip well enough to keep it on target.. But his application of it seems off; he applies it in a way that the demonstration itself doesn't actually support.
Wider framed caucasian horse stance always makes me chuckle
Wrong
Because holding youre entire hand still while an external force moves the trigger is completely different to trying to hold your hand still while moving parts of your hand with the force to pull the trigger comes from the same source as the one holding it steady.
It’s always anticipation…a fancy word for “flinch”.
Pre flinch......
It’s not always an anticipation, you have to understand the real factors that go into this. Anticipation means moving the gun prior to ignition, anticipating the recoil a muzzle flip that’s not what he’s talking about here. Besides anticipation presents as low. If it presents low left for a right handed shooter or low right for a left-handed shooter then there are other factors in it. That’s the readjustment of the grip as you’re pressing a trigger, if you cannot move your trigger finger independently from all the muscles in the hand that are already gripping the gun then that is the failure. Anticipation is regarded as low stripes so far left right up all those other factors have everything to do with not being able to independently press the trigger without moving any of the other muscles. You could do a dry why don’t you do it hot? Dry practice gets you in the appropriate headspace for pressing the trigger however, most dodo birds have a tendency to believe that what is going to occur prior to ignition is different from when you were doing dry practice to actually firing the weapon.
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When people flinch, they squeeze their hand, anticipating the noise and recoil. They are trying to make the gun go off instead of letting the gun go off.
3 for flinching!!!😂😂
My instructor told me I was flinching, so I corrected it and got a 100% of 50 rounds to pass my NJ CCW test
My biggest problem is and has been anticipation. It ruins my grip, kills my concetration, and makes my trigger pull inconsistent.
It's just tough to find time to train that out.
Man is 2 feet from the target. Try going out 25 yards and do that and see what happens.
Principle is the same. Trigger pull is not causing the loose grouping. Anticipation does that.
@@percyfaith11true, like when you’re at the range and go to fire your gun but you forgot your safety is still on, you notice how much you instinctively jerk or anticipate the shot.
You are missing the point.
You're a little slow..
More likely I’ll be so close I’ll be able to smell his breath , that’s reality
👏👀 one of my all time favorite Rogan guests!
It's the sudden "squeeze" with the entire hand, that is considered "jerking" the trigger. What you did, was actually, very consistent.
Opposite. Lot of people only pull with one finger sloppy sideways and wtvr instead of the whole hand holding firm and just squeezing. So this excercise is almost worthless.
@wepntech yes indeed
Its the anticipation flinch that gets you. Thats why practice at a range is important to train yourself out of it.
I concur. I'll never forget when I was younger shooting a new pistol, I slowly put the finger squeeze in action, and right when the trigger should've broke, my hand twitched in anticipation of the gunfire. My safety was on. No "bang", but I jumped like it fired. I learned an interesting lesson that day.
@@ryanhopkins6090that reminds me of when my dad and I were getting my stepmom to shoot. Anticipating the noise would cause that big flinch so we had her just begin to empty a couple mags to desensitize herself to the boom and it made a huge difference when she went back to practicing.
Exactly
Practice and familiarity are top tier for sure. Someone's reflexes under extreme circumstances are unpredictable also. Victims are usually the unprepared.
@Matt-nc7hk i concur.
It is about the anticipation of recoil..the mind automatically perceives a kick back when you squeeze..your muscles in your arm contract in anticipation of recoil.
If you are first starting you train yourself to slightly squeeze the trigger so you dont exactly know when it will fire..after you get used to doing that it becomes automatic..your brain tricks you into flinching..
This is an awesome exercise to show people. Kudos Shrek
I don't know.. I'm assuming he is with a guy he knows who will maintain control of the firearm. Seems like it could go wrong easily.
@@CryHavocWarDog He has more training experience than you. He damn sure has more experience.
@@Anonymous8317Wait a minute are you saying that he has more training experience than him or more experience training than him, you got me all puzzled here bud.
@@mohamedjama4866 Both, as I stated.
It’s your brain easing pressure off your support hand while it’s putting more computing power to operating the trigger. Which is why repetition will train this away; not strengthening your support hand you’re training your brain to maintain equal pressure on your entire grip through the entire process of firing, absorbing recoil, and resetting, all in one motion.
Im still working on my bad habit of anticipating the recoil and move my guns before pulling the trigger.
Any suggestion of correcting this?
Do dry firing and just keep going to the range. You need to keep practicing until you can fire without blinking.
Firstly, let the trigger surprise you. Do not think about the exact moment the shot will break. Trying to control the exact moment of fire is what causes the most flinching.
Secondly, you’ll need to practice your grip. Firm grips are already tightened muscles, so they naturally flinch less. Focus on gripping with your pinky and ring fingers to let the other half of your hand relax. Make it tight, strong, and keep it constant. Those two fingers will do the most work with recoil control anyways so it’s good they are tight, but your index finger needs to be stay relaxed. You keep it relaxed by letting the trigger surprise you like I mentioned earlier. I find relaxing my thumb and middle finger helps me relax my trigger finger even further, but that may just be me.
Hope this helps.
I’m going to disagree that anticipating the shot is necessarily a bad thing. Once you get to a certain point, actively managing recoil can help decrease the intervals between shots. The old wisdom that it’s best to let the trigger break surprise you is useful for beginners who need to train out flinch, but when you get more comfortable with your weapon, learning to work with it can take you to that next level.
Both of the above can be useful, depending on your skill level. Dry fire practice in particular can help you learn when the break happens so you can figure out how to actively manage recoil.
I push my hand down and forward slightly in response to the recoil instead of flinching. Seems to keep on target pretty well
Smacking a rod is not equivalent to pulling a trigger. You’re striking quickly and straight back without having any of the other contributing factors and forces at play and the guy holding the gun doesn’t have to worry about making sure he pulls straight back without disturbing his aim.
I think you missed the point he was trying to make. He's basically showing that it's not the trigger pull that causes the jerk, it's you.
Also, the bar adds resistance to any lifting from the kick!
@@joshuasimmons6443 in all honesty, I never figured out what point he was trying to make. For me, he didn’t make any point at all. And what you’re suggesting makes even less sense. Is it not YOU pulling the trigger?
@@richardmccann4815 I don’t think that has anything to do with it.
@@CuttinEJ 🤦🏾♂️ I see you just chose to commit to your stance.
You can develop the muscle memory necessary to keep sights on target during dryfire practice. While gripping the handgun with one hand, aim at a small dot on the wall. Pull the trigger harder than necessary to break a shot while keeping the sights aligned on target. The hand muscles will learn quickly. Train both hands.
When the gun is getting smacked back in a straight line it’s kinda hard to miss.
People anticipate the boom so they jerk their hand. That’s no myth.
That's exactly what he said. It's not because if the trigger pulls. That's the myth. He's not saying pulling shots is a myth.
@ well I guess you put me in my place. Geesh!
I dont think this guy watched the video very close. That's the whole point, only talking about trigger jerk not grip or anticipation of the shot
Myth, this is absolutely a thing and is why I literally missed every shot I took from only 7-10 feet away my first time shooting my pistol. I realized the problem and now I can make groups from 2x that distance.
The shooter and the weapon are too close to the target, for trigger slap to affect the accuracy.
However, I understand what he means. It's the rest of the hand constricting that adds to the low and left results, which is commonly attributed to trigger slap.
erroneous comma placement after “target”.
It's often a result of someone sticking their finger too far through the trigger guard. People who don't understand finger placement get a firearm that is kind of short between the backstrap and the trigger, and don't keep the pad of their finger on the trigger. Or they just have long hans/fingers. Of course, people with short fingers pull to the right. That is all assuming a rh shooter. LH shooters will experience the opposite.
You demonstrated why fast lock time is important, not that jerking the trigger has no effect. Do the same drill but instead slowly and add in some sideways motion, you will get spread in your shot pattern. This is some good stuff to know to get fast however, especially at shorter ranges, knowing that you can basically run that trigger back as fast as you are able and that the shot will break before you are too far off target is valuable information. A lot of us train using this “rushed” technique, for the second shot in double tap pairs as this works especially well when your natural point of aim has been previously established. Well aimed shot followed by what is essentially a controlled trigger jerk as soon as the shooter is able to bring the sights back to its original position.
Wait, is that Shrek?
Yea. I was waiting for him to say “ya know what I mean”
No that’s a decorated veteran and you clearly don’t understand his point
@@drav3n20v so isn't Shrek nd how wld that mean he "clearly" didn't understand his point?
@drav3n20v Shrek is his nickname
Yes
Context matters -- If the trainer's point is to teach grip fundamentals -- that pulling the trigger hard itself isn't going to throw off the shot so long as your grip is good then he's right -- a hard pull, even a slap or "jerk", will be on target so long as your grip is firm enough to keep it there. So it depends, he could be right or he could be wrong (cue Billy Joel) -- just depends on the context.
Part of the context being that the target is maybe further away than 4 inches? I could hit center of center mass while hitting my trigger with a semi truck, 100% of the time at that distance.
@@boyeatsworld-vr9ci So I found and watched a full video of him talking about this and, frankly, I think he's just wrong. He included even anticipation as part of the myth which is easily shown as real. His use of a ratchet completely removes sympathetic movement from the equation which means it's not really a good example. I'm sure he's a fine trainer, but I think he's being nitpicky and is himself missing the point and overstating it as a "myth". To be controversial?? I don't know, but now that I've seen him give the lesson in full context I have to conclude he's mostly just wrong, either that or he's making his point very poorly.
And also, yes, he does this demonstration at such ridiculously short ranges that it's effectively meaningless -- he even did this demo with a rifle... at the same distance.
This instructor is the man. Word on the streets is that he's a talented combat specialist.
I believe the term is "anticipation." By anticipating the recoil, the hand will jerk downward causing the bullet to hit below the desired aim point. I've lost track of how many times I saw that happen while I was active duty training new security team members. I wish I'd had cell phones then to video them and be able to show them exactly what they were doing.
USN Ret '93
Yup I’m right handed and shoot low left with my Glock. My heavy beretta I shoot straight af 😂
Yup always let the shot be a surprise, smooth until you feel confident
Thank you for your service! 🇺🇸
It’s squeezing the whole hand that’s a problem…however maximum grip should already be applied prior to pulling the trigger.
I came straight to the comments for the expert opinions. 😂 didn’t disappoint!
Right!? 😂 Especially when the instructor is a living legend lmao
This is truth. I literally just went through my firearms instructor class and my instructor Chad Thompson did a drill similar to this. He called it the steering and gas drill. We held the master grip and aimed while he squeezed the trigger.
For anyone thinking of critiquing this man’s technique, and there’s a lot of people here who think they are qualified too 😂, you may want to do some research first. That man is John McPhee
It doesn’t matter who they are if the advice is bs. That’s the issue with people like you. You’re just like… because X Y or X said this thing then that automatically makes it true because they’re the best at what they do and or are famous for something. I’m not saying this is good or bad advice, just pointing out your flawed way of thinking. Learn to think on your own it can do you a lot of good.
The same guy that said reflex sights are not as good as iron sights because you have to be straight on to see the dot.... he may have been good back in his time, but as with time and technology, things change. He teaches old tricks for a new rule book. He's as irrelevant as the old trick. And his example... conditional were not perfect no matter his explanation there will always be trigger jerk because of our natural motion.
Exactly lol seen actual combat not these clowns on the internet lol
@@bigbadchevyyou in fact do need to have nearly perfect alignment to see a dot on a pistol. I mean, not you of course, you are a ninja. But yes literally everyone else on the planet besides you , to include Delta operators like this man.
@TR-rf7jv you do not...even cheap reflex sights are parallax corrected as soon as you pull the reflex up you can see the dot as long as you have it sighted in correctly no matter what angle you look through the sight window as long as you can see the dot thats where the barrel is aiming.
Maybe back when he was in service you had to be straight on but not the case anymore. You can move your head around a lot without losing the dot in your sight window.
Its because when alot people “jerk the trigger” its not that theyre pulling too hard back, its that they are pulling the muzzle to the right (in most cases) when you fire from your finger not being placed properly on the trigger
I worked as a range officer and a teachers assistant in jr shooting classes and we always taught "trigger PUSH" rather than "trigger PULL" to get that in theyre mindset that we dont want to pull the trigger but we want to be slowly pushing the trigger back. (Mainly to practice good form, technique, habits blah blah..) cuz "pulling" they think of using theyre whole hand. But "pushing" is just a single finger motion. Also straight back and not pushing at an angle. Speed comes with comfortability and practice. Same went for rifles
hitting the trigger that hard reduces the recoil coming from the barrel. it probably holds the gun steady because it's inside the trigger well also.
This guys the real friggin deal , he’s put more dudes in the ground than he cares to recall , happy to have him as one of our own
Physical fitness is the best survival prep in almost every scenario. These dudes should remember that.
This dude is a army ranger
These dudes are physically fit.
@@robbourns2831 well actually he was Delta but yes he was still a ranger none the less.
Being super ripped actually isn't very efficient for soldiers.
As I learned a LONG time ago before it was called a “military contractor” at hot spots in the world-have a death grip on the gun so it does not move from your intended poi, either with sighting or point/shoot, then pull the trigger until the intended target is no longer there. It worked on the range and, more important, actual battle. This needing a certain part of your finger on a trigger is not true. You lose dexterity under stress. You will not know what part of your finger is on the trigger when someone is really doing their best to end your great day.
Or pulling your trigger with a tool! It is great he is showing how this works to STILL dispel the myths out there so many years later- but glad this professional is. I definitely do the same teaching my classes. You can have someone else pull the trigger as long as you have the gun pointed where you want poi.
Keep it simple.
Not a myth, When the person holding the gun pulls the trigger They may move in anti solar ion (anticipation I mean) and the hand may pull the muzzle to the side A two person assist like this take away both of the normal causes This is a dumb exercise Trigger jerk is 100% real and needs to be trained out of a person
When a person is jerking the trigger it creates something called target panic which is found in archery pretty often. It makes you punch the trigger the second you get on target which is far harder to repeat the the same exact pull and squeeze every time.
I pull hard right with my SW due to the tight trigger. Has zero to do with perking but the dynamics of leverage, fulcrum etc as I pull the tighter trigger.
People start to squeeze and throw keeping their aim steady out the window, fail to reset and ensure they are back on target with a firm grip.
Isn’t the wrench also providing more stability? Look at the way the trigger is pushed it’s a direct backwards force in a linear motion
There’s a counterbalance to the actual manner of pulling the trigger
breathing, sight picture, and trigger squeeze are the factors. when you pull the trigger, you tend to slightly rotate your wrist. also guy is shooting point blank...
The problem is when you try to engage your trigger finger unless you’re very disciplined it can cause your aim to sway. This is why squeezing is better as it engages the whole hand rather than just 1 small part of the hand.. making it a more stable shot.
Great example of how a firm grip and keeping that gun STEADY is the most important way to keep a tight grouping.
Anything this particular man says, should be heard
The finger doesn’t move front to back naturally, it curls inwards imparting a slight sideways or twisting force. The guy is hitting the trigger straight back which does not mimic the movement of a finger.
Tight grip, and squeeze. Problem is, like most, when you first start shooting your natural instinct is to not only anticipate recoil but squeeze your grip more when you pull the trigger making you move the muzzle around, even slightly..
You can technically see trigger pull happening by just gripping your phone sideways, with one side being the back of the grip and the other side acting as the trigger. If you tighten your grip, depending on how you move your finger the alignment of your phone will either remain stationary or turn away slightly from your palm. More or less the same mechanism.
Its because newer shooters try to pull the gun while opposing it or get nervous and, invariably, tilt the barrel up. Then intermediate shooters have a tendency to expect the recoil and try to oppose that force ultimately tilting the barrel down.
Experienced shooters have the same issue but typically can account for it through learning their weapon system, stabilizing on a fixed object or being looser when they goto shoot.
Yeah being a bit loose is a good point too
Most people try to anticipate the recoil instead of letting it just do its thing and kick back, thus resulting in poor accuracy and “bullet jumping” when looking at a target. Don’t anticipate the gun firing and trying to control it, a good way to practice this is gently squeezing the trigger till the round fires off to get the feeling of being more confident in holding the firearm. Also don’t forget to exhale on the squeeze.
Had to watch it twice but I get it. Good example of what to look for to improve your shooting accuracy.
Its not a debate. Its not about how hard the trigger is being pressed, its about the hand contracting to pull the trigger.
Depends I have to watch my trigger pull as if I choke to much up on the finger it pulls my shot grouping right but if I make sure I stay on my finger tip and pull straight back I’m substantially more accurate. When he did this example the ratchet is going straight back every time not accounting for finger pull and curl.
Last time I shot something, .457 was definitely jumping in my hand and I had to re grip each time. It’s not about missing the first shot, it’s not letting squeezing the trigger misalign you and not letting it escape your grip. Especially a caliber like that it’s gonna be moving around in your hands. It’s always going to land on the center pin when using the sights to line up your shot. It’s not a video game
The pull isn't caused because of the trigger pull. It's is because when people pull that finger they are also moving their other fingers. Thats what cause the low and left. The other fingers squeeze tighter as the trigger is pulled. This causes the grip to rotate counter clockwise as it turns with the fingers and since the other fingers are lower then the trigger finger is causes grip to pull into lower palm more. Simple, just move the 1 finger.
Try it. Hold your hand like your holding your carry, and squeeze your trigger finger. The other fingers move just slightly?
It's a matter of not having the correct grip on the firearm, how it lays in the palm and how the index finger makes contact with the trigger.
He was hitting the trigger with the same part of the ratchet each time. He wasn’t hitting the trigger at an angle. When u squeeze the trigger and put more pressure on one side of the trigger it will pull to the side. If you have a good stance and proper grip it you can be accurate at short to medium range but longer range with a pistol you have to have proper trigger pull “squeeze”
He's trying to work out what called "anticipating the shot" where you would push the weapon forward to compensate for recoil. The body will push before the round leaves the barrel causing it to strike low
The two most common mistakes with handgun Aim is jerking the trigger and anticipating the shot
Truth
Can someone explain to us slow people what exactly was being demonstrated? Please and thank you
That’s because you still went straight back with the trigger it’s not about how hard or fast the trigger goes back it’s about how far your finger is in or outside of the trigger and whether you squeeze straight backwards or pull or push it
It's the jerking of the trigger and the hand movement in anticipation of The Recoil that causes you to go off Target
It's the side load that people put on the trigger they pull the trigger towards the palm of their hand and it tips your AimPoint off... This compounds with extended range. Notice the ratchet being struck has no side load. It only goes straight back, the lack of friction on the metal handle of the ratchet will negate any sideload put on it.
Alot of criticism given to the delta operator who did singleton mission. Dude was one of the first guys on the ground in Afghanistan and Iraq. Hes probably forgot more about tactical shooting than most of us will ever know. Pretty awesome the respect given to a true American worrier!
It’s the surprise factor that makes it work if you know you are pulling the trigger you know it’s about to go off and you know it’s going to recoil so your hand grips tighter and your wrist locks up. I was always taught always aim. Just aim. And slowly without thinking about it add more pressure to the trigger all while only thinking about aiming and then let the shot surprise you. Because if you really know it’s coming. Most likely your body and nervous system does too.
Best instructor to learn from.
Its not about how hard you squeeze your finger. Its more about pulling the gun slightly in the direction of your finger when suddenly pulling the triger.
Trigger jerk is real because the muscles you use to pull the trigger stretches the tendons in the wrist. It's a real factor that 99.9+% need to train out of
Trigger jerk is definitely a factor, but so to is the lower 3 fingers of the trigger hand. You've got to be able to differentiate and diagnose the two of those, among other things. Shooting a pistol accurately AND rapidly is damn near an art form lol
Your index finger squeezing will activate your adductor pollicis probe andnpull the gun right.
The trick is to simultaneously push the trigger left to offset it. Thats ehy pros tell you to use the pad of your finger instead of using your finger like a hook. Using the pad will limit the muscle reflex and slightly push left.
But that only helps people that sufder from THAT issue.
If you're hitting right, and your gun has multiple backstraps, try the biggest one you have. It may help.
If it does, watch your hand while using it and see how it is changing your trigger pull.
When it comes to the pistol, it's when you pull the trigger without good grip you drift the gun towards one side or the other before you fire the weapon
Dude had a good grip.
I honestly learned more from using a Mantis for a few days than a few courses and thousands of rounds. Dry fire. Do it.
This proves that trigger jerk is real. Its how the muscles in the handle naturally work. Its the reason why new shooters (right handed) tend to shoot low\left. After time and practice you learn to isolate the movements in the hand for clean shots.
When most people squeeze a trigger they unintentionally flex their thumb at the same time this can twist or push down the back of the gun as they pull the trigger. When I was young I noticed myself doing this and it took a while to get myself to the point that I no longer flex my thumb when I pull the trigger it
I always assumed it was from pulling the trigger slight to one side or the other while squeezing it cause the recoil to be off center and not braced properly.
He's putting counter pressure against the muzzle. 😂
Because "trigger jerk" happens before the trigger releases the firing pin. Here he just hits the trigger, and it fires before the trigger bottoms out and slamming the gun, effectively putting the trigger jerk after gun fired.
It is usually anticipation and flinch that causes pull off. Not trigger pull
Close range is not a factor. It's when the target is further down range. The trigger jerk factor grows as the target gains distance. Also, try this again just using the ratchet without using your other hand.
It’s not the jerk that creates the inaccuracy! It’s the flinching or moving of the grip or arms that is holding the firearm! Create a bomb proof hold and grip of your pistol or any firearm for that matter then all the jerking of the trigger is completely irrelevant. Just as it has been shown here create spectacular fundamentals and there isn’t a target you can shoot to the limits of the firearm you are shooting. Great video even better demonstration.🫡 Never mind the instructor is one of the best spec ops veterans on the planet!
Ofcourse if you remove the rest of the hand from the movement, you’ll have less sway. That’s essentially what we practice. To pull the trigger back relatively smooth sorta isolated from the rest of the muscles in your hand. Then For all those muscles to be at peace/balance/with enough grip to handle the recoil/follow up. You’re pulling the trigger for him…
It’s from “clenching” the gun. Hold your hand out and make a fist as fast as possible. It’s the same with the trigger. If you pull the trigger like you are pulling your fingers into a fist, the gun will twist. Instead, squeeze the trigger, don’t pull it.
When you jerk the trigger you actually tense the muscles and tendons in your wrist which pulls the barrel off target. Even a small movement like 2 mm end up being off by inches on target
His forearm muscles were completely stable since he wasn't working his finger. Big difference.
Awesome video
The muscles in the finger are applied to the trigger, then all work in conjunction with the hand, wrist and forearm to create shot placement.
The person holding the gun is solid as a rock and not incorporating the movement of the finger muscles, which changes literally everything. He's smacking straight back with a smooth metal ratchet while the shooter is solid stone. Of course this "exercise" more accurate than the guy who doesn't know how to hold his pistol and wraps his fingers around the trigger.
Those "3 or 4 little factors" are all affected by the movement of the shooter's finger, especially if the shooter is inexperienced and wraps their finger around the trigger. This exercise proves it by removing the trigger finger from the process and applying smooth reward pressure.
The fore-finger is bracing the weapon in the desired direction. That alone provides a muscle memory advantage that promotes motor skill leverage towards the intended aquisition as well as an extention of one's hand-eye coordination. To some new holders, it is a different story without experience what-so-ever, and faults may start from anticipation of the motor control itself, not just the retort, resulting in undesirable reports.
If the instructor is preaching about grip, it is likely a hypno-prop for self-awarness and tension control enduring importance of confidence during and after a follow through. Somehow, consistency follows. This instructor is a guru. It's nearly as if a televangelist shook the demons out so you could think less and squeeze good.
Finger jerk pulls the gun to the side and depending on the fit, form and angle of the finger, it pulls the trigger less consistantly than the example.
..his pen pulls rearward and relatively consistantly.
Put that pen at a 45° angle everyother round and retest. Thats the true test
You have to train your finger to pull straight backwards because naturally your finger on your right hand wants to Pull down and to the right, same thing with your left hand but to the left
Fact! Jerking the trigger fires muscles in your forearm and shoulder and that leads to your arm bending inward a fraction. There also movement to the right at your wrist from left to right! You can do it right now. Stick your arm out like you have a gun in it and jerk your trigger finger like your shooting and watch your wrist, hand and elbow area. Sure at 3 feet your going to be on target but do the same thing at 7 yards at 10 yards and at 25 yards and your going to miss by a large factor that could make you lose the gun battle against your aggressor. It's always slow its smooth and smooth is fast!
I was making a knife in my backyard (I'm in the UK), a good friend of mine was over, watching the process - he takes a photo and messages McPhee - replied "That's cool!" 😄