I came to the US in 1984 from Ireland ( legally). I thought I'd arrived in heave. I was a roofer but had the lifestyle of a king. The people were incredibly kind, peaceful, hardworking and the most helpful I've ever met. I'd swap everything that the tech industry has created since then to go back to that America. Nothing which they call progress has done anything but destroy that country I fell in love with. Infuriating. Sad. Depressing.
there's a lot of mental gymnastics going on to try to explain why America doesn't want tens of millions of Indian or Pakistani. But Americans don't need to explain it we're allowed to just say no thank you.
@@JaMeshuggah Absolutist language (“always”) is how women discuss things. Also, how is getting the best and brightest engineers “gutting the American working class”? Engineers are quintessentially middle class. And, adding the best and brightest is a win for the country. Others in other countries have complained about the brain drain to the US.
@@magsteel9891 No, because the masters have to house, feed, etc., the slaves, so the net cost would be higher. Being a “wage slave” is cheaper for the master.
While I understand the need to bring in talent, if we use Musk and Vivek's logic, every country in Africa and most of the third world should replace their own native people and elite with skilled foreigners. Also, I'm very disappointed that Musk is throttling people who disagree with him on this issue on X.
Give a man a third-world shovel and he'll spend a lifetime digging a ditch. Give a man access to first-world tech and magnify his human potential to change how the world works. Leaving a talented person in the third world is like locking a brilliant mind in a cage. World rural communities have access to Starlink because Musk immigrated into the US, that wouldn't have happened if he remained in South Africa to dig ditches. Many Indian startups wouldn't exsist today if Satya Nadella had not immigrated to the US to provide Azure Cloud infrastructure to India and the world.
@tyronewashington230 1. I'm not arguing against all immigration across the board, I'm arguing that it must primarily benefit the people who already live here. 2. Elon's family were rich, so he wouldn't have been digging ditches in South Africa he would have been a successful businessman in South Africa. 3. Using your logic, the average black person in South Africa was better off during apartheid under the control of Europeans who provided Hi-Tech instead of shovels.
H@@notidentified4031I have no problem with foreign investment and bringing in expertise if it benefits the people of a country, but far too often these transactions only benefit a small elite.
If you are good at pattern recognition, combined with a spectacular measure of mental gymnastics, why is everyone who disagrees with you either a troll or an idiot?
@@brianb6796 Have there been any “mass layoffs”, Ch. 11 bankruptcies, etc., in non-tech companies? Were at least some employees therein highly skilled?
If the debate comes down to more foreign workers equals short-term pain, but long-term stability, how about this; change the long game by fixing our education system and training better American workers?🤔
He is just being real . I live in CA and have worked with the homeless . It’s not affordable housing . CA just wants more money to pay special interest and donors.
Yes, the Homeless Industrial Complex is money laundering and jobs for grifters in NGO’s and government agencies, whose employees donate to and vote for Dems
Maybe I'll put it this way during normal times during situations normal economy normal political landscape. this would not be a problem but we are not in normal times. I'm seeing people with money don't see the problem.. "visa" problem "
For someone who likes to use his economics degree as a credential, Scott frequently entertains some of the most stupid economic takes. Like when he talked about creating a crypto currency out of nothing to pay the nation debt - for weeks!
I get a laugh and sometimes even cheer Scott's profanity-laden rants when he really hits the truth, they make great clips. However, I don't like it when he attacks particular commenters even when they are trolls, just block them and don't be a d.
I'm going crazy. Scott proposes that because he has a rudimentary knowledge of formal Economics he is in a better position to judge the value of a certain kind of visa to enter the US. Built into this is the idiotic notion that a roofer for example, regardless of his iq or years of study, should bow to his superior knowledge and understanding of the subject. This is the lowest form of argument. I've never been to college but I've read most of the major texts on economics and a myriad of other subjects including but not limited to physics, medicine, biology etc etc. He is Implicitly reverting to the non white notion of credential ism. I could go on but for those who understand no explanation is needed and for those who don't none is possible.
Agree. He only reads headlines and Twitter, then he likes to guess and speculate rather than do the research because research is confirmation bias or something lol.
@@kevinatkinson1137Yes, he OFTEN does that in subjects about which I am familiar. (Gell-Mann). Also notice the hedge words (“may”), the omissions and, as you said, the speculative flights of fancy. One has to listen carefully.
@@notidentified4031 I know, he turns most things into a guessing game where he likes to keep score. I'm pretty sick of it as a regular listener for the last few months.
It depends upon who is doing the lowering. It might be quite reasonable for the workers of a company to agree to take a cut to keep the outfit in business. Individuals can (& should) move on to new opportunities. The remnant would try to keep the company going.
@@mjonausk -- Well when you company is against the wall each worker will have to decide whether the sacrifice makes sense. A lot of good companies went under because the Unions would not compromise. When the companies finally went under the Unions did nothing for the unemployed workers.
I'm glad I didn't "just ask Scott" about getting the jab...Even tho he said it's your own decision he also said after he got the second jab "this is the best I've felt in my entire life"
Dude, I am so over the H1B astroturf BS. So much time wasting over item 100 on the priorities. Can we get the illegal criminals taken care of. Have some friggin logic to legal immigration!
You mean H1B and O1. O1 is much harder, mostly for candidates with dr degree doing research. H1B is for skilled engineers with a college or higher degree. My understanding is O1 visa is not meant for engineering jobs.
@@fishingpier6092 The way tech CEOs, and their lobbyists, describe the H1B visa it is the definition of the O visa. H1B has long since been a scam to simply lower wages.
The way visas are supposed to work is that the visa applicant has special skills unavailable or scarce in the host country. American seems to have done ok so far but Musk is screaming for an expansion to import talent for the top `0.01%`. What % of workers would the expansion of the visa system be? I would be also curious-if China is ahead of us on AI-do they develop native talent or recruit? Trump is not even in office and already there is a massive split developing. This is Musk`s doing: he should STFU now and stop with the deplorable type comments (or giving his enemies the opportunities to cast his comments as such). Talk about stealing defeat from the jaws of victory. Please move on.
After decades of being a software developer in the SF Bay Area, and seeing the "guestworker" visa system being abused year after year after year, count me in as one of the ones who is now for zero new "guestworkers". Firms in America are going to need to re-learn how to hire and develop American talent. No addict got better by just doing a little bit of Fentanyl. The 0.01% argument is a fallacy. They are all already here. If their culture is so wonderful, then their children, who are also already here can fill this roles. As for the "This time its different" argument (because of AI) ... REALLY ??? For venture capitalists this time is now, and forever will be, different.
@@GilmerJohn After observing thus debate over the past 3 days my position has moved from "reform the immigration system" to "end immigration for work purposes". If a firm really needs the talent of someone on the other side of the world, they can hire them in-place and have them work over the Internet. America may just be a nicer and more civilized place with a few years of zero "guestworker" immigration. It's certainly the best way to have young people pay off their student debt.
Scotts worship of Elon is nauseating. Appealing to authority is a logical fallacy. Elon is an H1B recipient and is biased regarding this issue. Just saying "Elon smarter than me so i must agree with everything he says" is stupid
Scott is cherry picking from thousands of comments and highlighting the handful that said "not one more Brown person in america" which, by the way I don't believe anyone actually said.
Well, I considered getting training when my wife was carrying our older girl. I hoped it might make things go better. Things did work out but a part of me regrets not following through.
Scott doesn’t get them all right. He’s wrong about the Musk/Vivek/H-B1 matter. Badly wrong. So many otherwise solid commenters have been wrong like Scott. Fortunately Cerno and most others were on point.
I think that without the H1B visa America would have no billionaires with more than 10B in wealth. We would also have lots more young people who have paid off their student debt before they were 30. I also believe that we wouldn't have a homelessness issue.
They are bringing people in on these visas to fill even the most basic jobs. There are a lot of homeless people who aren't drug addicts yet who could work those jobs @@notidentified4031
More or less anyone with a Ph.D. can choose to find work anywhere in the world. We literally are struggling and can't find more work. Both my grandparents fought in WWII and died early, my grandmother escaped the bombing of Normandy. We don't need more grifters who want revenge for "British colonization." My great grandfather had 16 children, the nuclear family was brainwashing in the 1960's similar to the one child policy of China. My generation experienced further brainwashing of feminism and porn, of my siblings and cousins only woman cousin decided to have a kid and she's divorced. The people who do real work don't get paid. This is a generational replacement for decades our parents generation navigated, and Scott has cried so much about his discrimination and doesn't see this is exactly why he couldn't get a job.
The British colonized South Africa and look at it now, certain cultures don't know how to self organize. China is going around making business deals on all rare earth minerals everywhere on earth, while we're just bombing for centuries and left with nothing of value except crypto!
Scott, the Master Persuader, has entirely misread the room that is X over the past 2 days. Scott cannot see that no matter how much Musk attempts to clarify his position after he opened his big autist mouth, along with Vivek also opening his mouth one time too many, Scott chimed in to clarify in his usual sage all seeing way and the three of them were then on a hiding to nothing because the masses cannot/will not ingest the finer points of the muddy soupy mess of words and intentions once the Genie is outta the bottle and it all gathers steam! Scott has been hugely successful in his comic career but he is always just "The Comic Guy" "chiming in" and wants so badly the respect from "The Heavyweights". This grates on him so severely with his grandiose narcissistic personality he constantly needs affirmation that he is/was right (and said it first). He has a bottomless hole inside that can never be filled. I am sure that Scott suffers greatly from a major inferiority complex and has done most of his life. He obviously possesses an inquiring and intelligent mind and always wanted to better himself and achieve greater things. But he could never fit in, Scott is a dork and has always been a dork. From his tiny fishbowl childhood/teen years he was always on the outer from the cool kids and the braniacs but he wanted it all so badly. @Paulcunnane4, No need to stop watching other than if he's boring or annoying you greatly. Look upon Scott as entertainment, a love hate relationship. I never trust the majority of what he says outta both sides of his mouth constantly, I like him and despise him equally but he entertains me greatly!
Don't worry about what anyone says. Many/most of Trump's voters were folks that are directly or indirectly negatively affected by current immigration rules/whatever. Trump knows that and Trump wants to increase his people in the 2027 Congress. He will not insult the masses of his supporters.
Scott retweeting a black activist mocking white people for getting upset with Musk's comments and equating it to Vivek's previous comments about black culture's victimhood.
It's quite possible to have too many engineers on a job. A lot in engineering solution is that most decisions are quite arbitrary. The only way to determine the best answer to a binary question is to do the project twice. It takes a lot of money to back up an engineer unless he just sits around sticking his nose into things.
It's amazing to see his viewers turn against him. We're obviously the problem and he's the solution. Just say you want to be King of your ant hill already. Trying to back Elon on this hb1 visa issue is like trying to keep the titanic afloat. You're gonna have a bad time
I could see his perspective on the vaccine. But the most hypocritical blind spot, the H-1B visa is literally the cause of why Scott didn't get those promotions over the years! How does he not see this? The system has been abused for decades and it just needs to stop immediately. Even just a pause for several years. No more visas only O-1. People cannot find work. All my friends have quit their jobs in tech and engineering, including myself.
I admire Scott's Dilbert career, but he is smart and cashed in on the self-help book and "how to get rich" angle too. It's the oldest scam to teach people how to make money.
The problem with economics is that economists don't seem to understand that not all questions have answers and not all problems have solutions. But you get nowhere in the field if you admit that.
A better immigrant direction "Bring me your bold, your brilliant, your visionaries. The restless builders of dreams. Send these, the pioneers. I lift my lamp to light the path to greatness".🌎🌍
Yes Nusk has fought against unionization. And now he wants more H1B visas under the guise of "high skilled" workers. This .01 percent argument is complete horseshit. America first means Americans first.
Well, when the management is poor, unions start to appeal to engineers but generally speaking, engineers don't like unions. Engineers like to be hands on but often a union contract will literally say that engineers may NOT touch certain equipment. If something should be adjusted or otherwise touched, a union technician must do the job.
Want to hear about Dan Crenshaw's military service? Just wait a few seconds after meeting him and he'll tell you all about it. You won't even need to ask!
Have you met him? Have you ever seen a reply letter from AZ US Senator Mark Kelly? I’m told the first sentence always mentions that he was a US Navy captain AND an astronaut.
Does anybody know the difference between prejudice and racist I think this is the problem with the word racist.. neither one of them words are good . But one wants to kill ...one wants to be left alone
Regarding data on foreign workers: " the data does not support that" and your previous statement that : 'all data is fake' You did not take into account two things: previous immigration did not result in wealth transfers out of the nation, prior to the 60s and the increase in wire transfers most of the productive boost by immigration stayed in the country via the multiplier effect. Today the immigration results in a net outflow of wealth to failing nations and the productive benefits are not seen here. Immigration funds the cartels who are shipping in drugs.
Hold on hold on, he's going to hypnotize you or persuade you. When that fails he'll scream at you and then block you and wonder why he's alone yet again this Christmas.
Does anyone know how he supposedly killed himself? A 26-year-old former OpenAI researcher, Suchir Balaji, was found dead in his San Francisco apartment in recent weeks, CNBC has confirmed. Balaji left OpenAI earlier this year and raised concerns publicly that the company had allegedly violated U.S. copyright law while developing its popular ChatGPT chatbot. “The manner of death has been determined to be suicide,” David Serrano Sewell, executive director of San Francisco’s Office of the Chief Medical Examiner, told CNBC in an email on Friday. He said Balaji’s next of kin have been notified. The San Francisco Police Department said in an e-mail that on the afternoon of Nov. 26, officers were called to an apartment on Buchanan Street to conduct a “wellbeing check.” They found a deceased adult male, and discovered “no evidence of foul play” in their initial investigation, the department said.
First I've heard of it. Sounds like another Barnaby Jack, John McAfee and Erin Valenti kind of situation. Many such cases unfortunately. RiP in pepperoni
I enjoy the calm explanation of what's going on. I have to wonder (off topic) if getting rid of minimum wage would also fall into the "better more vibrant economy". I don't claim to know, but the thought popped up.
Also, I like the idea of no swearing. If you could make it not 'bleeps' or 'quick mute' that would be better. Maybe a word replacement like R rated movies on TV used to do. That would be amusing.
We should compromise by taking the very top best of the best while investing in American talent. I thought that was supposed to be the goal all along. Not shutting off immigration completely or filling all our needs with cheap foreign labor
The real question: which is better in the long run? a) Corporations relying on an infinite supply of cheap labor, housing shortages, an increase in the male/female ratio in the population, or b) a zero-growth society?
I think there are two subjects that would help most in educating our world view - well, always understanding statistics so we’re not easily fooled… but also an understanding of history of science - progress is not made by the single genius - many many many smart people work towards the goal and it is never “that one guy” who did it by himself - even Einstein had many people to support him and support the many other famous scientists who he used to gain insight - and those famous scientists would not be famous without the nameless billions of so many others - Einstein could have never existed, and we would have gotten there a few years later - or maybe sooner, who knows if the system that created Einstein pulled down someone else - but he was not a singular event of the .01% that was necessary - I would say that “the culture” that allows progress is what is most important, and not any single individual or small set of geniuses - maybe the culture helped Einstein, and maybe it hurt other “Einsteins”- hard to say - so we all know that Elon is not individually designing rockets on his own… right? Or he knows how to build an AI? He’s just the one with power and money who decided to take a few risks on some interesting projects - but without the past and present talent of so so many, and the culture that was developed in America for this kind of progress, he’s not creating anything with his own hands -- we do not live in a super hero movie where we need those .01% of special people that have super powers - we need a culture that promotes all the smart people to want to develop fantastic things - as opposed to finding jobs that just fill the bill for a good paycheck - we don’t need all our smart people to do more finance or banking or an esoteric specialized doctor … whatever job that is not so creative but pays smart people as a business over their creations - people need a culture that develops their talents… it’s not an al la carte problem
The whole "our billionaires are better than your billionaires" thing is sad - stop fawning over Trump and Elon and Vivek and acting like servile peasants.
10:39 I doubt that we are as cyber vulnerable as advertised. Remember Y2K? We have at least one department of cyber warfare, and an unknown black budget. Yea, cyber attacks are dangerous, but more like 9/11 than a nuclear launch.
When you block and mute all the people that disagree with you, you find yourself in an echo chamber with really unpopular ideas. If we don't have enough migrants to 'solve the problem', then it's not the problem, in fact, its now perpetuating the problem. We reconfigured the education system for the people that rarely go into STEM. We tailored the hiring system for the people that rarely go into STEM. We KNOW, not to dump our excess food production into Africa, else we cause a famine. this is a form of Gell-Mann Amnesia where we pretend the H one system isn't corrupt and working against America's interest, despite the fact every other part of gvt we've looked into is.
In the long-run, with the H1-B visa, American companies opt out of hiring and developing talent in young Americans. They hire the visa holder because they are cheaper and the good ones are kept on for decades and become middle and upper managers. The career path of American citizens is eliminated. In the long-run American graduates live in their Mom's basement and demand that their student loans be forgiven.
Albedo = "reflectiveness". Think of a scale from a matte black surface (low) through to a perfect mirror (high). Clouds increase albedo and therefore lower the level of incoming solar radiation. They are a very important factor in modelling climate.
Why? I say no. American males should be getting these jobs so that they can take care of families, families should be encouraged by our society, and women need to be mothers and take care of the children and household. I am so sick and tired of seeing and listening to women in politics, law enforcement (attorneys, police), armed forces, media, higher education, corporations, and doctors. Our country will never heal if women are left in charge of running things.
What did catturd get wrong about Crenshaw? Are you saying the community note on Crenshaw was wrong? Please explain when you call someone an idiot because you look like the idiot right now Scott...
Crenshaw seems to be the Real Thing. He's a combat vet. He was a SEAL and left the military at O5 level. He has a first rate education. You might not agree with him on this or than but he's a competent man.
Memes are also analogies and are highly effective. They sway elections. It’s the compression of complex ideas into something very tangible and with a fast baud rate.
I came to the US in 1984 from Ireland ( legally). I thought I'd arrived in heave. I was a roofer but had the lifestyle of a king. The people were incredibly kind, peaceful, hardworking and the most helpful I've ever met. I'd swap everything that the tech industry has created since then to go back to that America. Nothing which they call progress has done anything but destroy that country I fell in love with. Infuriating. Sad. Depressing.
The only thing good we got from tech is coffee with Scott adams.
@@johndavid3114 Oh oh...found another sipper.
How about no more immigrants at all? Not until the American dream is actually achievable by Americans again.
Scott downplaying extreme Indian nepotism in hiring as though every other group is doing it and to the same extent. Ask anyone in tech. No clue!
Yep they have their own mcmansion communities in California
there's a lot of mental gymnastics going on to try to explain why America doesn't want tens of millions of Indian or Pakistani. But Americans don't need to explain it we're allowed to just say no thank you.
That’s different than getting the best and brightest engineers, which would be a relatively small number
@@notidentified4031 That's not what's happening in Canada.
Spot on
@@notidentified4031why are you always supporting what guts the American working class?
@@JaMeshuggah Absolutist language (“always”) is how women discuss things. Also, how is getting the best and brightest engineers “gutting the American working class”? Engineers are quintessentially middle class. And, adding the best and brightest is a win for the country. Others in other countries have complained about the brain drain to the US.
Would the USA and world be better off without H1-B1 visa? Yes.
If low wages is so good for companies and the economy then wouldn't slavery be awesome for companies and the economy?
H1B is slavery
Perfect.
@@magsteel9891 No, because the masters have to house, feed, etc., the slaves, so the net cost would be higher. Being a “wage slave” is cheaper for the master.
While I understand the need to bring in talent, if we use Musk and Vivek's logic, every country in Africa and most of the third world should replace their own native people and elite with skilled foreigners.
Also, I'm very disappointed that Musk is throttling people who disagree with him on this issue on X.
Give a man a third-world shovel and he'll spend a lifetime digging a ditch. Give a man access to first-world tech and magnify his human potential to change how the world works. Leaving a talented person in the third world is like locking a brilliant mind in a cage. World rural communities have access to Starlink because Musk immigrated into the US, that wouldn't have happened if he remained in South Africa to dig ditches. Many Indian startups wouldn't exsist today if Satya Nadella had not immigrated to the US to provide Azure Cloud infrastructure to India and the world.
Some of those countries have, e.g., Chinese engineers
@tyronewashington230
1. I'm not arguing against all immigration across the board, I'm arguing that it must primarily benefit the people who already live here.
2. Elon's family were rich, so he wouldn't have been digging ditches in South Africa he would have been a successful businessman in South Africa.
3. Using your logic, the average black person in South Africa was better off during apartheid under the control of Europeans who provided Hi-Tech instead of shovels.
H@@notidentified4031I have no problem with foreign investment and bringing in expertise if it benefits the people of a country, but far too often these transactions only benefit a small elite.
@@tyronewashington230 South Africa was a first world country. It isn't now. What happened?
If you are good at pattern recognition, combined with a spectacular measure of mental gymnastics, why is everyone who disagrees with you either a troll or an idiot?
“Everyone” is a tell…many females use absolutes in arguments
If the H1-B issue is about skills shortage how do they explain the mass layoffs at these tech companies?
it's all about slave labor. Americans replaced with foreign workers
I'm not alone in saying I had to train my Indian replacement, the got laid off.
@@brianb6796 Have there been any “mass layoffs”, Ch. 11 bankruptcies, etc., in non-tech companies? Were at least some employees therein highly skilled?
If the debate comes down to more foreign workers equals short-term pain, but long-term stability, how about this; change the long game by fixing our education system and training better American workers?🤔
If H1B visas were truly about importing the greatest people they would restrict it to people making 150k and over at the very least
I disagree with Elon Musk.
Not to worry: when Elon puts his "Advisor to the POTUS" hat on tight, he will disagree with his present self.
These appeal to authority rants by this guy are getting to be hilarious. We're about to witness him rage quit live 😂
This is as bad as Adams’ takes on the Vax.
He is just being real . I live in CA and have worked with the homeless . It’s not affordable housing . CA just wants more money to pay special interest and donors.
Yes, the Homeless Industrial Complex is money laundering and jobs for grifters in NGO’s and government agencies, whose employees donate to and vote for Dems
Maybe I'll put it this way during normal times during situations normal economy normal political landscape. this would not be a problem but we are not in normal times. I'm seeing people with money don't see the problem.. "visa" problem "
Imagine Musk with the control of a chip in your head.
Is that for everyone or just some, e.g., paraplegics?
Ultimately why I fundamentally don't trust him.
For someone who likes to use his economics degree as a credential, Scott frequently entertains some of the most stupid economic takes. Like when he talked about creating a crypto currency out of nothing to pay the nation debt - for weeks!
I get a laugh and sometimes even cheer Scott's profanity-laden rants when he really hits the truth, they make great clips. However, I don't like it when he attacks particular commenters even when they are trolls, just block them and don't be a d.
Depends, but I take your point. But, sometimes they’re the laugh one needs, when in the mood
Well...he's alone again all Christmas.
@@edbernardmusic3599. Because he chooses to be.
@@edbernardmusic3599How do you know that?
@@kathymayes4290 Sure he does. He chose divorce twice also. Do you think he used persuasion or hypnotism?
I'm going crazy. Scott proposes that because he has a rudimentary knowledge of formal Economics he is in a better position to judge the value of a certain kind of visa to enter the US. Built into this is the idiotic notion that a roofer for example, regardless of his iq or years of study, should bow to his superior knowledge and understanding of the subject. This is the lowest form of argument. I've never been to college but I've read most of the major texts on economics and a myriad of other subjects including but not limited to physics, medicine, biology etc etc. He is Implicitly reverting to the non white notion of credential ism. I could go on but for those who understand no explanation is needed and for those who don't none is possible.
You told us you were leaving
@@notidentified4031 wouldn't want to disturb your hugbox
He chooses economic growth at the cost of freedom and humanity any day of the week
It is amazing how shallow Adams is on every key important matter.
Agree. He only reads headlines and Twitter, then he likes to guess and speculate rather than do the research because research is confirmation bias or something lol.
@@kevinatkinson1137 so true. You said it better than I.
@@kewlbeone5949 Thank you kindly!
@@kevinatkinson1137Yes, he OFTEN does that in subjects about which I am familiar. (Gell-Mann). Also notice the hedge words (“may”), the omissions and, as you said, the speculative flights of fancy. One has to listen carefully.
@@notidentified4031 I know, he turns most things into a guessing game where he likes to keep score. I'm pretty sick of it as a regular listener for the last few months.
It is not a good strategy to lower workers wages to keep an unsustainable business.
It depends upon who is doing the lowering. It might be quite reasonable for the workers of a company to agree to take a cut to keep the outfit in business. Individuals can (& should) move on to new opportunities. The remnant would try to keep the company going.
@GilmerJohn that sounds like a fine strategy. But you forget the worker loses their bargaining power when in a flooded employment market.
@@mjonausk -- Well when you company is against the wall each worker will have to decide whether the sacrifice makes sense. A lot of good companies went under because the Unions would not compromise. When the companies finally went under the Unions did nothing for the unemployed workers.
@GilmerJohn unions are another kind of perversion.
Rand’s philosophy does emphasize freedom from coercion, but not freedom from accountability.
Scott keeps saying he does not believe in free will.
Ayn Rand is bullet proof !
@@9avedon Her metaphysics were closer to being a priori and her epistemology is severely flawed.
@@edbernardmusic3599 How should I address you ZIR/ZIM ? .
Word salad, zero logic.
There's always people that are smarter, in specific areas. Name calling has worked so well in winning friends and influencing people.
I'm glad I didn't "just ask Scott" about getting the jab...Even tho he said it's your own decision he also said after he got the second jab "this is the best I've felt in my entire life"
And just before they were available he said it would be "stupid to get covid now"
I've studied a lot of economics. It's generally worthless in the real world
You don't use a Laffer Curve to build a bridge?
Dude, I am so over the H1B astroturf BS. So much time wasting over item 100 on the priorities. Can we get the illegal criminals taken care of. Have some friggin logic to legal immigration!
Quick! Must hire the top talent so they can replace themselves within 18 months!
Let the issue fade away. Scott spends 70 minutes trying to massage every side of it. Why? It’s just a dumb issue to argue about.
Adams confusing H1-B1 and the H -01 Visa programs.
You mean H1B and O1. O1 is much harder, mostly for candidates with dr degree doing research. H1B is for skilled engineers with a college or higher degree. My understanding is O1 visa is not meant for engineering jobs.
@@fishingpier6092 The way tech CEOs, and their lobbyists, describe the H1B visa it is the definition of the O visa.
H1B has long since been a scam to simply lower wages.
Summary of Elon and Scott's point over the last few days : money is God.
I used to love them both. Now I want to go live in the woods.
@ That was well said. The mask has fallen. I think Adams has a massive inferiority complex, which he hides with his bizarre ego.
The way visas are supposed to work is that the visa applicant has special skills unavailable or scarce in the host country. American seems to have done ok so far but Musk is screaming for an expansion to import talent for the top `0.01%`. What % of workers would the expansion of the visa system be? I would be also curious-if China is ahead of us on AI-do they develop native talent or recruit? Trump is not even in office and already there is a massive split developing. This is Musk`s doing: he should STFU now and stop with the deplorable type comments (or giving his enemies the opportunities to cast his comments as such). Talk about stealing defeat from the jaws of victory. Please move on.
After decades of being a software developer in the SF Bay Area, and seeing the "guestworker" visa system being abused year after year after year, count me in as one of the ones who is now for zero new "guestworkers".
Firms in America are going to need to re-learn how to hire and develop American talent.
No addict got better by just doing a little bit of Fentanyl.
The 0.01% argument is a fallacy. They are all already here. If their culture is so wonderful, then their children, who are also already here can fill this roles.
As for the "This time its different" argument (because of AI) ...
REALLY ???
For venture capitalists this time is now, and forever will be, different.
How would be feel about a $10k/H1/year "tax" on these folks. How many would still want to come in or be brought in with a $10k "tax?"
@@GilmerJohn After observing thus debate over the past 3 days my position has moved from "reform the immigration system" to "end immigration for work purposes".
If a firm really needs the talent of someone on the other side of the world, they can hire them in-place and have them work over the Internet.
America may just be a nicer and more civilized place with a few years of zero "guestworker" immigration.
It's certainly the best way to have young people pay off their student debt.
Scotts worship of Elon is nauseating. Appealing to authority is a logical fallacy. Elon is an H1B recipient and is biased regarding this issue. Just saying "Elon smarter than me so i must agree with everything he says" is stupid
Scott is cherry picking from thousands of comments and highlighting the handful that said "not one more Brown person in america" which, by the way I don't believe anyone actually said.
Well, Andrew "Dice" Clay described another color in a graphic way on the Howard Stern show. It sunk his career so I will not repeat it.
0:59 Skip the BUM BUM BUM
1:41 Skip the Sip
We all know that.
How anyone can get through an entire show from this guy, you should be paid 😅😭
Walked 10,600 steps while listening to CWSA. I enjoy my stroll.
Said differently Silicon Valley needs labor cost at less than 50% of market to compete and be successful.
Removing the cuss words is the dumbest thing ever. Let's just nerf the world in every possible way
It amuses me when Clott curses thinking it sounds natural with his faux outrage rants
Hi Scott, is a 7eleven cashier a "top 0.01% talent"?
No one said that
@notidentified4031 That's an H-1B Visa approved job
@@mattm7426So, we want the system fixed? Odd how much conflation occurs.
@@notidentified4031 yes, before we start advocating for it.
Anybody with an I.Q. over 80 knows being a "trained hypnotist" isn't a qualification.
For a comedian it is. 🤪
Well, I considered getting training when my wife was carrying our older girl. I hoped it might make things go better. Things did work out but a part of me regrets not following through.
Scott doesn’t get them all right. He’s wrong about the Musk/Vivek/H-B1 matter. Badly wrong. So many otherwise solid commenters have been wrong like Scott. Fortunately Cerno and most others were on point.
I think that without the H1B visa America would have no billionaires with more than 10B in wealth.
We would also have lots more young people who have paid off their student debt before they were 30.
I also believe that we wouldn't have a homelessness issue.
Upon what do you base your beliefs?
They are bringing people in on these visas to fill even the most basic jobs. There are a lot of homeless people who aren't drug addicts yet who could work those jobs @@notidentified4031
More or less anyone with a Ph.D. can choose to find work anywhere in the world. We literally are struggling and can't find more work.
Both my grandparents fought in WWII and died early, my grandmother escaped the bombing of Normandy. We don't need more grifters who want revenge for "British colonization."
My great grandfather had 16 children, the nuclear family was brainwashing in the 1960's similar to the one child policy of China. My generation experienced further brainwashing of feminism and porn, of my siblings and cousins only woman cousin decided to have a kid and she's divorced. The people who do real work don't get paid.
This is a generational replacement for decades our parents generation navigated, and Scott has cried so much about his discrimination and doesn't see this is exactly why he couldn't get a job.
The British colonized South Africa and look at it now, certain cultures don't know how to self organize. China is going around making business deals on all rare earth minerals everywhere on earth, while we're just bombing for centuries and left with nothing of value except crypto!
Who played NPC during covid. I don't know what's going on with all the people I've watched for the past 8 years but hypocrisy is off the chain
Nuance doesn't work as a rally cry
Scott, the Master Persuader, has entirely misread the room that is X over the past 2 days. Scott cannot see that no matter how much Musk attempts to clarify his position after he opened his big autist mouth, along with Vivek also opening his mouth one time too many, Scott chimed in to clarify in his usual sage all seeing way and the three of them were then on a hiding to nothing because the masses cannot/will not ingest the finer points of the muddy soupy mess of words and intentions once the Genie is outta the bottle and it all gathers steam!
Scott has been hugely successful in his comic career but he is always just "The Comic Guy" "chiming in" and wants so badly the respect from "The Heavyweights". This grates on him so severely with his grandiose narcissistic personality he constantly needs affirmation that he is/was right (and said it first). He has a bottomless hole inside that can never be filled.
I am sure that Scott suffers greatly from a major inferiority complex and has done most of his life. He obviously possesses an inquiring and intelligent mind and always wanted to better himself and achieve greater things. But he could never fit in, Scott is a dork and has always been a dork.
From his tiny fishbowl childhood/teen years he was always on the outer from the cool kids and the braniacs but he wanted it all so badly.
@Paulcunnane4, No need to stop watching other than if he's boring or annoying you greatly. Look upon Scott as entertainment, a love hate relationship. I never trust the majority of what he says outta both sides of his mouth constantly, I like him and despise him equally but he entertains me greatly!
Don't worry about what anyone says. Many/most of Trump's voters were folks that are directly or indirectly negatively affected by current immigration rules/whatever. Trump knows that and Trump wants to increase his people in the 2027 Congress. He will not insult the masses of his supporters.
Scott retweeting a black activist mocking white people for getting upset with Musk's comments and equating it to Vivek's previous comments about black culture's victimhood.
It's quite possible to have too many engineers on a job. A lot in engineering solution is that most decisions are quite arbitrary. The only way to determine the best answer to a binary question is to do the project twice.
It takes a lot of money to back up an engineer unless he just sits around sticking his nose into things.
It's simply "Job Takers" vs. "Job Makers". Please reframe as such.
Silicon Valley is 75% H1-B1 Visas.
they need an earthquake
It's amazing to see his viewers turn against him. We're obviously the problem and he's the solution. Just say you want to be King of your ant hill already. Trying to back Elon on this hb1 visa issue is like trying to keep the titanic afloat. You're gonna have a bad time
100%
Elons and viveks communications on the h1 issue has been awful.
Yes, they need to dumb them down for those who are “challenged” in certain ways
@@notidentified4031 You mean the streetshitters? The ones who come here and shit on our beaches?
@notidentified4031 they already did the dumb part.
If you demand Scott be 100% black or white on every issue, and not nuanced valid points on both sides, then this podcast isn’t for you.
Well...I remember him supporting the vaccines, he pretends he didn't.
Yeah nuanced points, valid and invalid outta both sides of Clott's mouth
Nuanced points like the way he supports every military action the West could even make/fund
I could see his perspective on the vaccine. But the most hypocritical blind spot, the H-1B visa is literally the cause of why Scott didn't get those promotions over the years! How does he not see this?
The system has been abused for decades and it just needs to stop immediately. Even just a pause for several years. No more visas only O-1. People cannot find work. All my friends have quit their jobs in tech and engineering, including myself.
I admire Scott's Dilbert career, but he is smart and cashed in on the self-help book and "how to get rich" angle too. It's the oldest scam to teach people how to make money.
The problem with economics is that economists don't seem to understand that not all questions have answers and not all problems have solutions. But you get nowhere in the field if you admit that.
Are you really Scooby Doo?...
A better immigrant direction "Bring me your bold, your brilliant, your visionaries. The restless builders of dreams. Send these, the pioneers. I lift my lamp to light the path to greatness".🌎🌍
That’s what we had before the 1965 Immigration Act destroyed America.
Give them an inch they'll take your country
Yes Nusk has fought against unionization. And now he wants more H1B visas under the guise of "high skilled" workers. This .01 percent argument is complete horseshit. America first means Americans first.
Well, when the management is poor, unions start to appeal to engineers but generally speaking, engineers don't like unions. Engineers like to be hands on but often a union contract will literally say that engineers may NOT touch certain equipment. If something should be adjusted or otherwise touched, a union technician must do the job.
I can handle it in small doses but Scott's ego rants are becoming too much.
His content is free and worth it.
That’s why some of us aren’t here daily and/or skip parts of his shows.
Want to hear about Dan Crenshaw's military service? Just wait a few seconds after meeting him and he'll tell you all about it. You won't even need to ask!
Have you met him? Have you ever seen a reply letter from AZ US Senator Mark Kelly? I’m told the first sentence always mentions that he was a US Navy captain AND an astronaut.
@@notidentified4031 No I have not met Eyepatch McCain...thankfully.
@@Davalexon So, how do you know that he’d act as you said he would?
@@notidentified4031RINOs and warhawks are always predictable
Since you're going to stop swearing on your livestreams, Scott, I recommend you also drop the antiwhite slur "racist." 😇
Scott, quit chiming in. You chimer.
LOL!
Clott craves to be a weigher
Elon is an amazing person, and we are fortunate he is here, but America has produced many Elon's in our history.
Elon is overrated
All of a sudden everyone's explaining what Elon meant like Elon has problems saying what the f*** he wants to say
What kind of engineers we got in climate change movement
Does anybody know the difference between prejudice and racist I think this is the problem with the word racist.. neither one of them words are good . But one wants to kill ...one wants to be left alone
Are all hypnotists as smart as Scott?
Only to people who think being a "trained hypnotist" is a qualification.
If you imagine that your right
Regarding data on foreign workers: " the data does not support that" and your previous statement that : 'all data is fake'
You did not take into account two things: previous immigration did not result in wealth transfers out of the nation, prior to the 60s and the increase in wire transfers most of the productive boost by immigration stayed in the country via the multiplier effect. Today the immigration results in a net outflow of wealth to failing nations and the productive benefits are not seen here.
Immigration funds the cartels who are shipping in drugs.
Hold on hold on, he's going to hypnotize you or persuade you. When that fails he'll scream at you and then block you and wonder why he's alone yet again this Christmas.
Again, a $10k/h1/year would help equalize things. Less money to send home/whatever.
Does anyone know how he supposedly killed himself? A 26-year-old former OpenAI researcher, Suchir Balaji, was found dead in his San Francisco apartment in recent weeks, CNBC has confirmed.
Balaji left OpenAI earlier this year and raised concerns publicly that the company had allegedly violated U.S. copyright law while developing its popular ChatGPT chatbot.
“The manner of death has been determined to be suicide,” David Serrano Sewell, executive director of San Francisco’s Office of the Chief Medical Examiner, told CNBC in an email on Friday. He said Balaji’s next of kin have been notified.
The San Francisco Police Department said in an e-mail that on the afternoon of Nov. 26, officers were called to an apartment on Buchanan Street to conduct a “wellbeing check.” They found a deceased adult male, and discovered “no evidence of foul play” in their initial investigation, the department said.
First I've heard of it. Sounds like another Barnaby Jack, John McAfee and Erin Valenti kind of situation. Many such cases unfortunately. RiP in pepperoni
Scott can you the difficult work of Steel Manning the argument for racism. thanks
I enjoy the calm explanation of what's going on. I have to wonder (off topic) if getting rid of minimum wage would also fall into the "better more vibrant economy". I don't claim to know, but the thought popped up.
Also, I like the idea of no swearing. If you could make it not 'bleeps' or 'quick mute' that would be better. Maybe a word replacement like R rated movies on TV used to do. That would be amusing.
There is little to recommend a "minimum wage."
I think you're right, Scott. America’s success stems from having a great system.👍
Exactly. There are other ways of getting top workers into your organization.
You cried about not getting promotions.... it's because of this situation right that they were able to do that to you or do you not see it
Freedom with rule of law and honest weights and measures, yes. Freedom with no rule of law and dishonest weights and measures, NO.
We will never see real AI it's already being re-branded as AGI people
Scott against mandates. Yes- he favored taking vaccine himself, but did not recommend others to do so.
NPC.. told him that he needed the shot
@@scottbelanger6535 -- As I recall, he got the shot so that he could travel.
@@GilmerJohn I remember him saying it would be a stupid risk to get covid now that vaccines were on the horizon.
We should compromise by taking the very top best of the best while investing in American talent. I thought that was supposed to be the goal all along. Not shutting off immigration completely or filling all our needs with cheap foreign labor
Much of the "investment" is wasted. Some very good tech folks are self-taught.
The real question: which is better in the long run? a) Corporations relying on an infinite supply of cheap labor, housing shortages, an increase in the male/female ratio in the population, or b) a zero-growth society?
I think there are two subjects that would help most in educating our world view - well, always understanding statistics so we’re not easily fooled… but also an understanding of history of science - progress is not made by the single genius - many many many smart people work towards the goal and it is never “that one guy” who did it by himself - even Einstein had many people to support him and support the many other famous scientists who he used to gain insight - and those famous scientists would not be famous without the nameless billions of so many others - Einstein could have never existed, and we would have gotten there a few years later - or maybe sooner, who knows if the system that created Einstein pulled down someone else - but he was not a singular event of the .01% that was necessary - I would say that “the culture” that allows progress is what is most important, and not any single individual or small set of geniuses - maybe the culture helped Einstein, and maybe it hurt other “Einsteins”- hard to say - so we all know that Elon is not individually designing rockets on his own… right? Or he knows how to build an AI? He’s just the one with power and money who decided to take a few risks on some interesting projects - but without the past and present talent of so so many, and the culture that was developed in America for this kind of progress, he’s not creating anything with his own hands -- we do not live in a super hero movie where we need those .01% of special people that have super powers - we need a culture that promotes all the smart people to want to develop fantastic things - as opposed to finding jobs that just fill the bill for a good paycheck - we don’t need all our smart people to do more finance or banking or an esoteric specialized doctor … whatever job that is not so creative but pays smart people as a business over their creations - people need a culture that develops their talents… it’s not an al la carte problem
Please don’t curse less, I won’t be able to identify.
Occasional swearing tirades are part of his brand! He's smarter than us, but he may not realize this aspect...
The whole "our billionaires are better than your billionaires" thing is sad - stop fawning over Trump and Elon and Vivek and acting like servile peasants.
Hallucinating again
@@notidentified4031 Maybe lay off the drugs then
@@DavalexonYes, you should.
Did anybody ever get in trouble for act blue nope we forgot about it
Poor Google and Microsoft-barely able to make payroll. 😢why they just can’t afford to hire American workers. (That’s sarcasm, folks)
Since when didn't trust have to be earned
If he curses less or bleeps it out I can watch when my grandkids visit so I welcome that.
Same! Except my mom rather than grandkids - I played the show for her yesterday and he had a record on f-ing's
10:39 I doubt that we are as cyber vulnerable as advertised. Remember Y2K? We have at least one department of cyber warfare, and an unknown black budget. Yea, cyber attacks are dangerous, but more like 9/11 than a nuclear launch.
There might be a Gold Ratio describing the number of permanent bureaucrats added for each fake crisis.
When you block and mute all the people that disagree with you, you find yourself in an echo chamber with really unpopular ideas. If we don't have enough migrants to 'solve the problem', then it's not the problem, in fact, its now perpetuating the problem. We reconfigured the education system for the people that rarely go into STEM. We tailored the hiring system for the people that rarely go into STEM. We KNOW, not to dump our excess food production into Africa, else we cause a famine. this is a form of Gell-Mann Amnesia where we pretend the H one system isn't corrupt and working against America's interest, despite the fact every other part of gvt we've looked into is.
True shortages of works encourage companies to find ways of getting the jobs done with machines.
In the long-run, with the H1-B visa, American companies opt out of hiring and developing talent in young Americans.
They hire the visa holder because they are cheaper and the good ones are kept on for decades and become middle and upper managers.
The career path of American citizens is eliminated.
In the long-run American graduates live in their Mom's basement and demand that their student loans be forgiven.
unsubscribing and thumbs down daily until all veterans have jobs
Albedo = "reflectiveness". Think of a scale from a matte black surface (low) through to a perfect mirror (high). Clouds increase albedo and therefore lower the level of incoming solar radiation. They are a very important factor in modelling climate.
Let in all engineers who are paid >300k.
Why? I say no. American males should be getting these jobs so that they can take care of families, families should be encouraged by our society, and women need to be mothers and take care of the children and household. I am so sick and tired of seeing and listening to women in politics, law enforcement (attorneys, police), armed forces, media, higher education, corporations, and doctors. Our country will never heal if women are left in charge of running things.
@@ElenaAshe By your name, I assume you to be a woman. I am too. And I agree.
I’m assuming this comment was to be laughed with?
How about that they let in anyone paying $15k/year to come it and has a bond to ensure he goes back home when he misses a payment.
What did catturd get wrong about Crenshaw? Are you saying the community note on Crenshaw was wrong? Please explain when you call someone an idiot because you look like the idiot right now Scott...
Crenshaw seems to be the Real Thing. He's a combat vet. He was a SEAL and left the military at O5 level. He has a first rate education.
You might not agree with him on this or than but he's a competent man.
37:55 The top .01 percent of engineers would actually create jobs
Trump supporters we understood everything up until the election now we don't understand
lol, economics is pesudoscience
I would be happy with the top 5% of engineers, not just the top 1%.
You really think you don't have top engineers already in your country?
Memes are also analogies and are highly effective. They sway elections. It’s the compression of complex ideas into something very tangible and with a fast baud rate.
Trolls my ass 🤣
Bees do not need credit cards. i don't understand why everyone wants Bee Visas
Richest country in the world but in debt can somebody make it make sense