BURGUNDY is the most POWERFUL NATION in EU4.

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  • Today we revisit EU4 and Burgundy! Forming Lotharingia as Burgundy in EU4 is a great time. I have previously been bullied by AI burgundy, but today we adopt Lothar's mantle and attempt to do it ourselves. Definitely one of the most fun nations in EU4, there's a tonne of flavor here with an awesome mission tree! EU4 1.33 has done nothing to slow down the big red giant of EU4.
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ความคิดเห็น • 170

  • @theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658
    @theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +455

    Burgandy from one of Europe's strongest nations to just French vineyards. A succession crisis is such a cruel fate.

    • @frostyguy1989
      @frostyguy1989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Don't forget the mustard.

    • @RailwayPenguin
      @RailwayPenguin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@frostyguy1989 Well, apart form the succession crisis there were also the Burgundian wars

    • @goranpersson7726
      @goranpersson7726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      burgundy wasnt a nation, nations werent really a thing back then. and technically it was still a part of the french kingdom back then, just large enough with too many other holdings for the king to exert much influence in the duchy

    • @gaffgarion7049
      @gaffgarion7049 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@goranpersson7726Nations were a thing, the nation state is what wasn't a solidified concept.

    • @goranpersson7726
      @goranpersson7726 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@gaffgarion7049 yes and no. there are instances of the word being used but the meaning is something that isnt exactly ever explained I.E we can see instances of our modern interpretation of the word and we can see people of the time using the word but what they meant when using it is not really known and the times we can see it being applicable are for much smaller areas and groups than in modern times, like much much smaller. more so for like "that city and it's surrounding villages" it's also not really much of a case of kinship because we're all german or such, many a case where a foreign lord was prefered over a local one and a sense of kinship between different people rarely extended much more than for your local village. england is a pretty rare example of an early sense of kinship and nationality in that they got a sense of unity specifically during the viking invasions

  • @hizac8492
    @hizac8492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    I'm not going to lie, I clicked on this video rooting for AI Montferrat to overshadow you playing Burgundy

  • @matthewhannigan1916
    @matthewhannigan1916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    I recently played as burgundy and a strange thing happened during the succession crisis: I had Marie as an heir but she died before my king. Luckily, I got a new heir with even better stats, but when my king kicked the bucket, Marie came back from the dead (with original stats) to rule the (soon to be) kingdom of Lothaire.
    I kinda feel bad for the second heir

    • @yoruichixx6951
      @yoruichixx6951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      you know....divine right to rule

    • @noxgabriel5987
      @noxgabriel5987 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      marie died for me in a game was playing yesterday and then came back after the succession as queen lmao. the heir that replaced her just stayed as the heir

  • @alexbattaglia8297
    @alexbattaglia8297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +242

    I have a suggestion, you should play as the Jaddari in the EU4 mod Anbennar, it combines your favourite parts of EU4, mass expansion, mass expansion, and finally mass expansion, (topped with some great military ideas and full cav elves)

    • @FarmerSlayerFromTheEdoPeriod
      @FarmerSlayerFromTheEdoPeriod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      "Its Surael not Surakel ok human pest"
      - Based sun elves

    • @fatchins9126
      @fatchins9126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      E*ves
      Yikes

    • @colvinvandommelen2156
      @colvinvandommelen2156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you forgot to mention how fun the mass expansion is

    • @alexbattaglia8297
      @alexbattaglia8297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@colvinvandommelen2156 oh! I cannot believe I forget to mention the best part about the Jadd! Mass expansion, thanks for reminding me

    • @marcusaiello7100
      @marcusaiello7100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YES

  • @marca8844
    @marca8844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Did you get any PTSD of AI Lotharingia bullying you?

    • @edim108
      @edim108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wouldn't you? He became the supporting character in his own series 😂

  • @krecior__
    @krecior__ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    5:27 He got the rarest event in the game, which gives him free PU over a neighbour, and took 10 legitimacy instead

  • @sizanogreen9900
    @sizanogreen9900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    *East Frisia* is actually really nice, especially the islands. We used to go there on holidays when I was a kid. I can recommend Norderney or Borkum.
    So the whole thing in the video actually made perfect sense, who knew the AI had this amount of taste.

  • @Designer-Speech7143
    @Designer-Speech7143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Laith sees Poland didn't go for Lithuania: What good are you then?
    Poland: * Unleash the hussars! *

  • @thechosendino206
    @thechosendino206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I played burgundy into Lothringia after the Montferrat video and I can confirm, it's a lot of fun. Quite a unique start.

  • @sergodobro2569
    @sergodobro2569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Video starts:
    Me getting funny flashbacks from those Lotharingia videos

  • @tromedlovdrolmai
    @tromedlovdrolmai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been playing my own Burgundy game recently, and decided to come back and watch this again. In my game, I got incredibly lucky in that A) England didn't actually rival and France did, so I allied England and Austria, and B) before a month had even ticked by, I got the hunting accident event and lost Charles as an heir, so I never actually got the Burgundian Succession. Because I attacked Provence while the Hundred Years war was going on, and I was allied to the Pope and called them in with favors, I ultimately caused the 100 years war to end in a stalemate, as my subjects liberated Normandy for England while I took Paris, and the French decided that instead of liberating their capital, the smart thing to do was go to Italy with their army and "teach the Pope a lesson". Ultimately, forcing a Stalemate in the 100 years war worked great for me because I got even luckier and had the English Lancaster die with no heir, and my dynasty get the throne, and then I inherited England

  • @michaeltomasicchio6895
    @michaeltomasicchio6895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd love to see you continue this and try to finish off Burgundy's mission tree.

  • @seanlivesley5424
    @seanlivesley5424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    10:19 Ah yes, Serbia, Serbia and Serbia.

  • @_crazyscientist97
    @_crazyscientist97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Burgundy... Burgund... NO! GET OUT OF MY HEAD!GET OUT OF MY HEAD!GET OUT OF MY HEAD!GET OUT OF MY HEAD!GET OUT OF MY HEAD!GET OUT OF MY HEAD!GET OUT OF MY HEAD!GET OUT OF MY HEAD!GET OUT OF MY HEAD!GET OUT OF MY HEAD!

  • @compatriot852
    @compatriot852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's nice to see Paradox actually updating Burgundy. Now only if they could also do this to another major European power like Lithuania

  • @retrowave69
    @retrowave69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    already played burgundy and formed Lothringia in an MP game. sadly I didn't get to do it quite as quickly as I wanted and I wasn't very strong due to probably self incompetence. Didn't go very far past that because the group got bored of the save file.

    • @lukabaklacioglu1946
      @lukabaklacioglu1946 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i did my first burgundy into lothringia run. Gotten austria and brandenburg as PU

  • @zuludude2
    @zuludude2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd love to see more multi-streamer games, seeing someone trying to deal with a mess you've made would be great.

  • @maximdrager3639
    @maximdrager3639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think imma play Burgundy and try to make a colonial nation.
    Messing with cultures to mimicking the HRE and France. Like the Swamps of Virginia being Dutch, and the highlands etc etc

  • @mcalkis5771
    @mcalkis5771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Getting you guys to Ulm is a full time job. Watching all the uploads!

  • @Qureas
    @Qureas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TheSocialStreamers: I have THIS goal and I WILL do it!
    "golden opportunity appears"
    TheSocialStreamers: Ooooh shiny!

  • @sorayawaller2041
    @sorayawaller2041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    hey just thought I'd mention, in response to you correcting "iranian" to "persian," that iranian actually would be perfectly correct in this time period, with iran being the endonym for the region for thousands or years, and persia mostly just being an exonym :)

  • @ryanmalone4464
    @ryanmalone4464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your videos. One of the only channels where I watch every upload

  • @Akrafena
    @Akrafena 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is no hope under the ordenstaat…
    There is no hope under the ordenstaat…
    There is no hope under the ordenstaat…

  • @raptorcell6633
    @raptorcell6633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a little voice in the back of everyone's mind that says "screw what's practically, only care about what's funny and this, this is funny"

  • @joemycoal8190
    @joemycoal8190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Are we just going to ignore the fact Leif casually took espionage ideas?

  • @denissfedorkovs5946
    @denissfedorkovs5946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don't shave, become Laith the Bearded and conquer HRE as Tunis

  • @shawnb1649
    @shawnb1649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seize northern province from Nevers, release Champagne as a vassal, now you've got strong duchies right off.

  • @ousamadearudesuwa
    @ousamadearudesuwa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like you got that Post Burgundy Disorder

  • @alexmorrison3442
    @alexmorrison3442 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The hair cut is looking great Laith! And, even though I ignored the lower half of your face, it looks great too!

  • @bigmanted9864
    @bigmanted9864 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Burgundy in EU4: 😀😀😀😀
    Burgundy in Hoi4 (especially TNO): ☠☠☠☠☠☠⚡⚡

  • @craig5322
    @craig5322 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "It's a waiting game, and I don't intend to lose." I'm going to have to use that one sometime

  • @nesarkwastaken
    @nesarkwastaken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a Bulgarian i approve 12:19 :D

  • @ohNojames
    @ohNojames ปีที่แล้ว

    I really struggle with the French war and staying up on tech, and in the positive on cash, keeping all of the French vassals in line. It’s so much fun.

  • @leaflotus6726
    @leaflotus6726 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I shouldn't world conquest, 15 episodes later, and that concludes our wq one faith vessel swarm game.

  • @OstoYtär
    @OstoYtär 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bet that Montferrat gets super op

  • @tacticalnoobtoob3774
    @tacticalnoobtoob3774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey it’s RedCxy from twitch. I’m on vacation Rn and I can’t play eu4 and my favorite country is burgundy. Thank you my brother you are a blessing

  • @casssaph2287
    @casssaph2287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if you seize rethelois from nevers you can release champagne for a sexy reconquest on france.
    i think i got those right
    but yea

    • @casssaph2287
      @casssaph2287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      bruh did you seriously fuck up the thing where you get france's vassals too??
      also btw i think you get a lot of crazy PU opportunities or something if you're denied the imperial entrance

    • @ParagonCS
      @ParagonCS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@casssaph2287 yea he didn't do everything right but that's what's fun with laith i think. He just does his own stuff and i think it's fun

    • @casssaph2287
      @casssaph2287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ParagonCS fair!
      im too much of a whore for minmaxing ngl and i think it impedes my enjoyment of things

  • @xzardas541
    @xzardas541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Burgundy is easly my favorite, you have 2 permament buffs from missions and easly can become Emperor of HRE
    Can form france to get 3 more buffs from missions
    Maybe form sardinia-piedmont
    Then convert to orthodox form byzantium to get pentarchy and troll the pope.
    Or form lotharyngia and be boring like that

    • @trevor8726
      @trevor8726 ปีที่แล้ว

      can form netherlands after taking over the entire french region

  • @InTenZeGamingHD
    @InTenZeGamingHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Burgundy is one of the strongest due to its rich land, around 1600 everyone starts getting really good national ideas and Burgundy starts to suffer. You have to use subjects to expand after that.

  • @tigrecito48
    @tigrecito48 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you could war savoy and then release monserrat as a vassal... which is what you was in the monserrat playthru

  • @morsta99
    @morsta99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You said to destroy lothairingia, not play it!

  • @daspotato895
    @daspotato895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    50 seconds, that's pretty quick.

  • @connortheandroidsentbycybe7740
    @connortheandroidsentbycybe7740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only vote that matters for the outcome of imperial incidents is the emperors

  • @Leones_Ordo
    @Leones_Ordo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was once almost got a game over until i remember just having spynetwork on other tag give you buff against them

  • @oznelnavnaekal6679
    @oznelnavnaekal6679 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I hear the word 'Burgundy' these days, the first things that sadly enough come up at first are things like black suns, nukes and lullabies. Yeah, thanks a lot TNO 😑

    • @oznelnavnaekal6679
      @oznelnavnaekal6679 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Ollie Because it doesn't give me a vision anymore of a NORMAL Burgundy.

  • @tigrecito48
    @tigrecito48 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    would be funny if you purposefully got Monserrat as an ally in this playthru and fed them loads of provinces to have a strong ally and then they bullied you again in this one

  • @lazarobarrios8907
    @lazarobarrios8907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can we talk about the 5 forts all right next to each other

  • @avnigoktan3936
    @avnigoktan3936 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The thumbnail looks like the unofficial patch of Bulgaria

  • @ZantineVonKauffen
    @ZantineVonKauffen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have waited for this video ever since the AI Burgundy formed Lotharingia during the Montferrat campaign and bullied literally everyone

  • @charliedamarell9722
    @charliedamarell9722 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Low key shit the bed when Tom said my name in Patreon thing I’ll be real, wasn’t paying attention to my phone

  • @hoyinching9313
    @hoyinching9313 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, this video helps me a lot to play Burgundy in this new patch

  • @Claytonrullman
    @Claytonrullman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My start is way different I like to how other people play burgundy.

  • @leongoring6063
    @leongoring6063 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your always Welcome in East-Frisia!

  • @empireofitalypsstimfromano5025
    @empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Bet This Gives You Vietnam Flashbacks

  • @AnrandomdudeontheInternet
    @AnrandomdudeontheInternet 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this a. a this is a tn.. Is. Is. Tnot. this a mothe... a moth is
    Is
    Is this a
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    IS THIS A MOTHERFUCKING TNO REFERENCE?????

  • @MyTomServo
    @MyTomServo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Easily one of the most"

  • @NuggetGal
    @NuggetGal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    burgndy my beloved

  • @alexmorrison3442
    @alexmorrison3442 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lmao, Laith is playing as Lothringia. The irony is painful.

  • @TheJonnyjoh
    @TheJonnyjoh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How 'bout playing as Khmer next? They have a lot of flavour and events, their very own starting crisis, really well rounded ideas and a nice mission tree that takes you all over Indochina, Burma, Malaya and China AND I never see them succeed against Ayutthaya/Siam. I'd have suggested Dai Viet as another alternative because they have the odds stacked against them because they're the only Mahayana Nation (Pahang doesn't count) in a sea of Theravada Nations and they also have their own flavour events in regards to China, Confucianism and their own succession crisis.

  • @jkud9758
    @jkud9758 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    bro who is not subscribed we need that ulm trip

  • @makaramuss
    @makaramuss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    in the mean time he became pope and did not choose any buff for christians
    entire catholism:PICK SOMETING!!!!!

  • @NobleMotiv7349
    @NobleMotiv7349 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    me: *Looks at title*
    *sees Christian IV in the thumbnail*
    me: ...what?

  • @viktorkemeny31
    @viktorkemeny31 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Golden Bull Laith pls! Reeeeeeeeee

  • @thiagoangelgonzalez4890
    @thiagoangelgonzalez4890 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "If you can't defeat them,join them"

  • @cesaralarcon5228
    @cesaralarcon5228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heh me declaring on Utrecht to get Aachen to join and then just taking it

  • @carltonleboss
    @carltonleboss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Continue this series

  • @dailyhypothesies3477
    @dailyhypothesies3477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had no idea they could form that country

  • @batughanuzun
    @batughanuzun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aachen, the city of trolls. I am right there, at the moment

  • @overlord3083
    @overlord3083 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are alive after NK vid? Thats a surprise

  • @TzarAugustus
    @TzarAugustus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    your haircut looks good bud

  • @barituned
    @barituned 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MURDER SAVOY IN REVENGE!

  • @kronosbach5263
    @kronosbach5263 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoy Socialstreamers

  • @TURKISHFINALBOSS
    @TURKISHFINALBOSS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DARK SOULS PLEAUSE MATE !!!

  • @edemortoth7974
    @edemortoth7974 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally the facecam is back!

  • @Shadap7
    @Shadap7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super engaging content :D

  • @the_niss
    @the_niss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The new born beard suits you. Maybe grow it to a nice 3 day beard?

  • @ivan5595
    @ivan5595 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's also the most powerful nation in TNO

  • @kindadumb916
    @kindadumb916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah yes east Frisia the Paris of Germany

  • @DekuTheDestroyer
    @DekuTheDestroyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The emporer lets burgundy join. Burgundy right after starts killing minor nation in the hre. The emporer maybe this was a bad idea.

  • @neumo5005
    @neumo5005 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow laith i didn’t know you were an ai

  • @mickstir8178
    @mickstir8178 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one of the most based games I've watched you play. Excellent.

  • @EelooYT
    @EelooYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you cant beat em, join em

  • @theejiii
    @theejiii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow, you do look like you go to durham uni

  • @gabri-immortale
    @gabri-immortale 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey social , where is the holland Co op ring?

  • @asgerradmerjensen9190
    @asgerradmerjensen9190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is Christian IV in the thumbnail?

  • @danblackham3911
    @danblackham3911 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video

  • @ZWilver
    @ZWilver ปีที่แล้ว

    laith its kinda weird that you have ironman disabled

  • @WmJared
    @WmJared 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tamil ruler to king of Ireland in CK3, keeping either culture or a hybrid of it and religion
    Play Suzerain at all?
    uh, idk I generally enjoy y'all

  • @EPICDZN
    @EPICDZN 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:55 Bush in Iraq

  • @TURKISHFINALBOSS
    @TURKISHFINALBOSS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ALSO SOULSLIKE GAMES

  • @jonasnee
    @jonasnee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    im confused as to why you put Christian the 4th in the video thumbnail.

  • @oscriadocomandosancto2898
    @oscriadocomandosancto2898 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hold my Austria

  • @wintersking4290
    @wintersking4290 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, take Lithuania and flank the Empire.

  • @rge24491
    @rge24491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That aint worth shaving bother

  • @richardbraakman7469
    @richardbraakman7469 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plz explain why you end up fighting the Ottomans no matter where you start

  • @antoniorecio1562
    @antoniorecio1562 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im doing burgundy playthru atm. 1650 andi have all of france, germany and northern itally

  • @aluminiumknight4038
    @aluminiumknight4038 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand what's going on because so many cuts

  • @jschex123
    @jschex123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many videos do you think have been made saying “___ is the most OP nation” lol

  • @oldetobie2568
    @oldetobie2568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Burgundy is the best nation in EU4, Burgundy haters begone!

  • @Makem12
    @Makem12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You release Bulgaria but not Byzantium? For shame