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Bad Bulwarks AND a QUICK Visit From Sailing Magic Carpet! - E007
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- I made a startling and disappointing discovery in the bulwarks of our 1989 Liberty 458 project sailboat “Antidote” as I was preparing the bow section for a new core material.
Thankfully my week takes a dramatic turn for the better as we welcome some new friends from Sailing Magic Carpet to the boat shed as they come by to offer some help and encouragement!
Thank you Maya and Aladino for all of your amazing work that you do, and for coming by to say hi to us and our “little” project.
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0:00 - Welcome to the Boat Shed
1:03 - Introducing a New Core Material for the Bow
3:16 - Removing Some Material From the Bow for the New Core
8:47 - Preparing Epoxy Plugs for the Old Holes
12:40 - Grinding the Old Glass to Prepare For New Core
17:35 - Digging Into the Bulwarks
20:05 - Welcome Sailing Magic Carpet for a QUICK Visit
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Well, Mixed results with the locally sourced sandpaper... Maybe I need to give the Swiss paper a try that Aladino swears by. Haha!!
I think you are on a winner if you do. Worked for a furniture manufacturer for 16 years and it was the only brand we worked with. And the range of products is pretty large, be that for band sanders up to 10ft wide belt and 30ft long. Up to small cushions for those hard to reach places. Even now, as a pensioner, it is the only paper I use. SIA abrasives only, oh and sure, wood, and epoxy need a slightly different one, as do metals. They got you covered aswell.
Have you tried the sandpaper nets from Mirka? We use Abranet 40 and 80 grid for literally everything. Love those. Minimum dust, perfect results. Lifespan is also good and it doesn't get clogged like normal sandpapers. Since it's a net, you don't need to put it on exactly in the right position so that the holes align. Sibply bc there are no holes 😂
This has truly "solidified" the fact I will be looking for a solid glass boat such as the CSY. Pun intended. Learning a lot. Thank you.
Thanks 🙏. Yes, a solid deck has some advantages. Water resistance being one of the biggies. The weight penalty is a bit of an issue but if the boat is well designed I’d say go for it. 👍👍
@@livingforsail Yeah. I prefer a deep draft and a heavy boat. My Wife says I am slow, so I have to live up to that. LOL. I had a 72 Columbia 31 and she was bulletproof. Literally. Keep up the great work.
@@SimonElenor I appreciate that too. Thank you. All the Best!
❤Bummer boat
This bulwark and hull to deck joint is certainly a disappointment but I don't think this spells the end of the story for this handsome boat...
Indeed Aladino and Maya also had their disappointing amount of discoveries.. But with the right attitude, zest and drive..A nice and durable boat will be born..
I think you are spot on there and I appreciate the perspective. You can't expect any old boat not to have a few issues. We will press on!!
Aladino sent me..love a good refit...all the nest.. looking forward to launch!👍🏴
Thanks for checking us out. I hope you enjoy following along. !! 🙏🙌
Magic Carpet is one of my favorite channels.. and wow that bow is a lot of work. you continue to impress with your ability and knowledge. thanks for the video!
Thanks so much for the feedback! Maya cuts up some of the best videos that I’ve had the pleasure of watching. I was so floored when they said they would stop by!
As always, a great video! It’s refreshing to see the details of the demo-and-repair process, as opposed to the “magical montage” where everything is suddenly “fixed”. Of course there always needs to be some in streaming vids. But for hopeful seafarers such as myself, the little details matter. Besides, I have to wonder if it appeals to every sailors’ little closet masochist-as painful as it may be, there’s a measure of satisfaction in tearing into a boat, only to discover a critical problem, and then slightly (or excessively) over-spec the solution! Thank you so much for all you do!!!
Thanks for the feedback as always Shawn! I do enjoy digging in even though I know it will be a bit painful inevitably. The satisfaction of a job well done (and often over engineered) is worth the pain and process of repairs. Cheers!!
Hi John, I appreciate your engineer's perspective and also the great tool reviews. I am about a year away from embarking on my own project, so this and other boat restoration videos are like a Masters course. Thank you.
Thank you. I’m glad you enjoy it and all the best with your upcoming project! 🙏👍🙌
Sander is cute. What you really need is kerosene- A gallon should do it.
G'day John, so cool you hooked up with Aladino and Maya, Magic carpet has also gone through a lot of great work. I'm sure they can help point you in the right direction. Great work so far, mate.
Thank you! It is crazy how small the world can be sometimes!! It was fun to meet them.
I've had good results with the yellow frog painters tape even when I back it with peel ply the tape holds with out leaking
Thanks. Maybe I’ll give that one a try next time 🤔
I'm enjoying the project so far, your format is nice, and I really like your choice of tunes, now If you could make the vids longer, say 45 min. Would be nice. BTW, check out the Duracell project you area John.
Thanks for following along. I’m glad to hear that you’re enjoying the series.
I am also a big fan of the Duracell project. Cheers! 🙏👍🙌
Maybe I will have to give some of that Swiss sandpaper a try that Aladino is so fond of ...
Your videos are nicely done and it looks like your starting out on the right path with your boat work to me. Thanks for sharing 👍👍
Thank you for the encouragement! I'm glad that you enjoyed it. They are fun to make and less itchy than the boat work...
Hi John , I do wish you had filmed a bit more as I would have really liked to hear Aladino's assessment of your bulwarks ? ( assuming you
guys discussed that too? ) or will you be talking about that in an up coming video ? / great to see them taking a bit of a break from their
own labor of love ❤😸😺
I actually opened up the bulwark after their visit (the magic of editing knows no limits!) so he's only seen it in pictures but he has kindly offered his opinion (they are a very kind and generous couple) and we will see about sharing that someway in the future.
When filling holes in the deck like that, I find it is always better to fill a syringe and squirt the thinker epoxy into the hole. That way you can move the tip of the syringe around to make sure no air bubbles get trapped in the bottom of the hole. It is also easier to get the thicken epoxy into the syringe if you put it in a thick ziplock bag, cut the corner a bit and then squeeze it into the syringe.
That is a good point and would be really important for a structural fix. This was mostly cosmetic. I do appreciate the input. Thank you. 🙏🙌👍
Comfortable, educational, great pacing and so easy on the ears. Remiinds me of this old Tony. Your a wizz at this. I can see your channel exploding if you keep this up with regular videos. Thank you for the great content.
Wow. Thank you for that encouraging message! I’m glad that you enjoyed it. 🙏
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Great! See you around! 🙌🙌🙌
I was saying to myself, "Why are you scarfing the deck edge before checking the bulwarks, as you may have to remove all the fibreglass to repair the bulwark too". But then, you're the engineer and I'm not and it makes video content. You've got a big job ahead by the look of it. Cheers
Yeah, I e got a bit of work to do over here… I’m hoping that the bulwarks don’t need major surgery but I will at least wrap them in glass. Cheers. 🙌👍
Well done old chap. You are doing a great job! Best wishes from England
Thank you sir. I appreciate that. 🙏
Good god man! Where are your safety glasses!!!!!
I fixed up a 69 Halvorsen and really enjoyed taking my time, your creating your future!
I love that way of looking at it. Thanks!
Oh what wonders you find, the hull deck joint looks interesting from below, I think you are going to have to bite the bullit and replace the entire bull works. Great Video, love your enthusiasm.
Thank you! For my sake I hope that we don’t need to but we will do our homework, talk to some experts and come up with a plan. Safety and seaworthiness are my highest priorities with the refit. Thanks again for watching!
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I like using a grinder and 36 flap disk with a dust shroud for quickly removing glass. A lot cheaper than chewing thru sand paper in turbo mode. Try using 36 or 40 in turbo mode for quick removal👍
I have a nice dust shroud that I used for some concrete work and a diamond grinder. 🤔. I’ll give it a shot and let you know how it all goes. Thanks for the input! 🙌🙏
Looking good. I like your work, very thorough. I hate that you found more wet wood in the bulwarks. Great video!
Right?! It was such a bummer to find that wood. Oh well. On we go! 👍
I built a Shearwater 39 in the middle 1990's and this look like the same type of deck hull joint and the builder used plywood too fill the void between the hull and deck. I removed it before fitting the caps.
Thanks for the input. It is going to be really tricky to get it all out in this case but I will keep looking into it.
Grinder with flap disc. I tried an orbital with 60 grit, no joy, grinder with flap disc, YES. Down side, dust control but maybe there are grinders with proper dust control. That bulwark holds many opportunities,
Yeah, from my experience with those flapper wheels it would be very quick but that orbital in turbo mode removes a lot more material than a traditional orbital and you get the benefit of some dust extraction. I should fire up the grinder just to compare speeds maybe 🤔
Great videos of your project. I too have a Liberty458 built in 1984 and have replaced the teak deck and balsa core in many places. I also found the deck seam failed on the foreword section of the deck and had to glass it together and replace the rail. I’m wondering what you will do about the water in the bullworks? Fair winds
Thank you! 🙏 cool to meet another liberty owner (I’ve met a few since starting this journey)
That’s a great question! Do you know if you have mild steel inside your bulwarks? I’m 99% sure I have stainless steel but I know some earlier boats had mild steel.
Most of the advice I’ve gotten about the bulwarks is seal them up and leave them alone. I’m very tempted to rip in but it’s a lot of work for minimal reward.
I live in a climate with freeze/thaw but if it was always warm here I’d seriously consider leaving them alone… we will see I guess! 🙌👍
I usually hear the phrase "fixer upper" attached to houses, but you obviously have one at hand. Man, you have a TON (x10) of work ahead of you....for your sake, I hope you find some volunteers to give you a hand....
Haha. I appreciate your commitment to reminding me of this each week. It’s that kind of commitment to craft that I’m looking for in a volunteer. Send your resume to livingforsail(at)gmail.com
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Who is it that said: “we don’t do things because they are easy. We do them because we thought they would be easy!”
.... I am also curious to see how far that wood product goes along the bulwark and if you cap it with glass later ... definitely interesting .... thx for the share Jon .... as always .. never stop dreaming just dream bigger .. have fun be safe, save our oceans ......
Thanks Peter. We will see what we find in there as we continue aft. Cheers!
@@livingforsail .... when one goes digging something will be found. One can just hope it will not be majorly disappointing. I guess it all comes down to how one reacts/processes it. ..Thx for the reply Jon .... make it an extraordinary week .....
@@peterfrebold you are right about that. Attitude is king. I have enough experience with home renovations to know that you must expect the unexpected when opening up the unseen. 👍
@@livingforsail ..... Laughing ... yes home renos can also be full of surprises ....
I'm surprised you didn't ask Maya and Aladino about your bulwarks. That was the major reason for their refit and rebuild of their Cape George 36 cutter. It was the rot of their wooden bulwarks that made them replace their deck beams. They replaced their wood bulwarks with high density foam.
I didn't open up the bulwarks until after their visit otherwise I would have! The bulwarks on the Cape George are a little different, but I've enjoyed watching their work on those.
Aladino did scramble up onto the bow to investigate my work on getting the area prepped for new core and said it was "perfect" so that is a moment that I wish I had on film!!! Haha.
@@livingforsail Getting that kind of approval must reassure you. Aladino knows his stuff. I hope you don’t have to replace your bulwarks from stem to stern like they did. That is a big job. But if they are rotten, now is the time to do it. I love both your boats. A couple of classic yachts that are meant for blue water. Can't wait for your next episode.
@@nikolatesla5553 thanks so much for your continued interest and support of the channel. It means a lot 🙏🙌
And yeah. Gotta love the classic boats!!
I vote for Airex deck core
I’ve heard of it but hadn’t really considered it. I’ll do some research. Thanks!
@@livingforsail Uncle Bob will have some opinions on it... some of the last Passport 40's built used it. It's a foam sheet material with some some advantages to Klegecell or Divinyicell.
@@redshifttrucking4537 I’ll ask him about it. He was fond of Corecell which I’m also considering.
“Interlopers at the bulwarks!! Their king-fu is no good for me… their technique will be defeated!!!”
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Boat surgery! 🤗
The patient has elected for a complete “nose job” 😂🙌
Really enjoying your videos but between the dremel and the air compressor tool I felt like I was at the dentist! 😂
😂 Ha! Yeah. Fair enough. Send me an email with your address and I’ll send you your complimentary toothbrush.
Thanks for the continued support 🙏
@@livingforsail 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Will you be using vacuum to hold the core down onto the epoxy?
I am REALLY hoping that I can seal everything up to do it that way. I’ll do a dry run to make sure it will work in an upcoming video.
Can I ask how long are you thinking all this is going to take?I know it always takes way longer then we plan,and you run into problems or work you didn’t expect.And are you working full time on this project?Im guessing it’s cold up there the way you’re dressed,it’s 95 degrees here In Alabama 🥵🥵 July.
I just always say "two years" when I'm asked this. I've been saying this for 18 months already when I moved the boat onto the driveway!
Things always take longer like you said. My wife has found it helpful to "adjust" my estimates when I give her timelines by doubling the number and incrementing the unit of time. So a "2 day" job she expects will take me 4 weeks and then everyone is happy...
If you check out the first part of the story it should answer your other questions ;) Thanks for stopping by!
Wouldn’t it make sense to check out all the coring so that your repair is fully continuous and consistent. This is what Aladino did on Magic Carpet.
I might consider doing larger sections. Aladino’s boat has wooden beams that support the deck and even there he had to start with removing every second beam in order to keep the deck shape. I have a similar issue that if I take all the core and top skin at once the bottom skin may not keep shape. I could spend more time bracing from below… everything is give and take.
Man, I bet 1 1/4" g10 is pricey! Great stuff, but the 1/4" I just bought gave me sticker shock. Where'd you buy it? I need more.
I almost hate to give away my secret.... eBay. $50. You will need to keep an eye out for deals like that.
@@livingforsail 🤣 My 1971 Contest 33 and I thank you for sharing your secret! I love g10. Currently making backing plates out of it.
@@beaconbus My pleasure. Happy hunting!
How much does this big chunk of G10 fiberglass laminate cost?
I found a bunch of really cheap g10 on eBay. I’m not sure what you’d pay for that big block. A lot… defender seems to have pretty good prices on g10. Good luck 👍
Loved the vid man. You’re channel must’ve come across my feed because I follow magic carpet. I might be one of the few people who don’t live near water and have never sailed but love watching y’all sail and refit boats. I’m looking forward to checking out more of what you’re up to.
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2. Have you ever stolen anything no matter how little the value?
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4. Ever used the Lord’s name in vain (like OMG)?
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It will be the same for us at judgement with God. The good things we do will not erase the sins we’ve committed. Our sentence will be according to our crimes and we won’t make it to heaven on our account. It’s all of Jesus and none of us.
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John 14:6
Hi. Thanks for the feedback. The folks over at Magic Carpet are great and I really enjoy their work also. Cheers!
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