Nevernight (Spoiler Free Review) by Jay Kristoff
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The visual gag with the poison made me spit out my own drink. Well played, sir!😂
Thanks Josh!
I used to question why people loved a book I didn't like, or I loved and others didn't like. I don't anymore. I've come to realize that not everyone is going to feel the same way about a book, and whatever the reasons, it's not for me to ponder. It is what it is. That being said, I loved this book, as well as the other two books in the series. I didn't really know what to expect going in, but I was willing to give it a shot based on my love for Empire of the Vampire. It pulled me in right away and never let go until I read the last words of the page/series. By the way, Empire of the Vampire was my favorite book I read in 2021, and Nevernight was my favorite of 2022. Not sure when Empire of the Vampire 2 is coming out, but there is still time for Kristoff to make it a hat trick. Cheers!
I love that it worked for you, and I also look forward to the next Empire of the Vampire. It's supposed to come out later this year.
Which series have you liked more?
@@MattsFantasyBookReviews My favorite series of all time is The Dark Tower by Stephen King. Nothing comes close, but I do have other series I love . . . Harry Potter, The Lord of the Rings, The Wheel of Time, A Song of Ice and Fire, The War For the Rose Throne, Red Rising . . . other series could join my top 10 when they are complete, but still waiting on some books 3's of series. And non-fantasy, I really love the Hap & Leonard series of books by Joe R. Lansdale.
@@Michael_L_Morrison you have some awesome series on your list
@@musicgenius1948 Thank you!!!
Sometimes even reading a book being in a particular mood/period of life is enough to make a big difference. Reading a book now vs 2 years ago would've maybe changed my enjoymend dramatically of a book. So yeah I agree!
Ha! That's hilarious. Not every book is for everyone but Nevernight is one of my favorites 😂
So glad it worked for you! Happy reading!
It belongs in the it’s so bad its good category.
@@greysnake2903 I'd agree with that.
Oh man that made me chuckle! 😂 This is why I watch you Matt, unswerving honesty in your reviews. I hope that your family managed to administer the antidote and you recover enough to keep us entertained. Loving your work!
Yes, antidote administered promptly and effectively! LOL
From what you’re saying, it sounds like this book suffers from the thing I dislike most about the Throne of Glass series, which is the reader constantly being bombarded with “just trust me, she’s the best assassin in the world.” And then never actually being shown anything to back up that claim at all
Yup, exactly this.
I am a sixteen year old girl who is currently rereading Nevernight and I love it and would recommend 🖤
I’m another 16 year old girl, I’m 50 pages in and I’m just a LITTLE confused.. 😭 My sister (24) told me this was her favorite series, I’m not sure how old she was when she read it, but she told me the confusion dies out and it’s only in the beginning. Could we be book friends?
I've read some other books from Jay Kristoff and it's normal for the book to be confusing in the beginning it took me up to 60 pages to get into the book but then I couldn't put it down@@Juxxous.
I liked it but the biggest problem i had with this is that she behaved more like an assasin before going to the assasin school and at the end, she behaved like the protagonist of shonin manga.
I didn't hate this as much as you did but it was still such a validating review. Thanks for pushing through so you could commiserate with us all on the internet
LOL, you're welcome!
Oh my this was not what I was hoping for with this on my tbr for this year-I sure hope it works better for me!
Me too!
Heroic accomplishment! I couldn't digest the style. No clue about the amount of minutes I listened, but one of the quickest DNFs I've had.
Good job quitting when you did! You weren't missing anything!
LOL 😆 I recently found your channel but I have to say, this may be my favorite video yet! Love the honesty
Thanks Dylan!
I enjoyed the Vampire book a lot too and when I saw this for sale for Kindle I bought it. I guess it will go to the bottom of my TBR list. Thanks for your honest opinion.
If you get around to it, I hope you end up enjoying it!
This was a great video! Love the ☠️ gag!
Thanks!
hahahaahaha, the poison bit is too good!! Good to know I can skip with one. I have yet to align with you on your opinions. I just picked up the Alex Verus series and read the first book and if you are looking for a nice quick palette cleanser I think you will like these. The series is Urban Fantasy and Dresden-esque without the misogyny. I can't wait to read the rest of the series as it is 12 books and already complete! Check it out and I think you would enjoy it. The character has quite a special power and I'm impressed the author is able to give the character a power like that and keep it interesting and exciting.
Sounds dope, I'll give it a shot!
Great video! I have not read this book but sadly, I do own a copy. Can’t wait to see your next tier ranking. 😆
LOL
Agree or disagree with him, Matt is always going to look provide an honest unbiased review!
I disagree with you on this one; I thought it was a great book; I liked the world building and the "powers," the library was awesome, the classes and instructors were interesting to read, the church staff, especially the brothers, were very cool; overall, for me it was a good book. You do have a point about the sex parts, though.
So glad you liked it!
I DNFed this book 80 pages in. I then restarted it and stopped at page 50 😅 I loved Empire of the Vampire though
Yeah not sure how I could have such different opinions about the same author, but here we are!
I respect you and watch your channel because if a book is bad you will say it, which is what I do all the time so it's nice to watch low star reviews for a change.
Thank you!
Have you read Ryan Cahill's Bound and the Broken series? I just finished his 86 page novella, The Fall, and liked it so much I bought the entire series.
He recently read of Blood and Fire a few weeks ago.
The Fall was great but I just DNF'ed Of Blood and Fire. Poor writing, insufferable characters, forced plot and it was just in bad need of a good editor.
Yup, read the first one about a month ago and really liked it! I will definitely be continuing the series.
bravo, I agree whole heartedly😄
I never wanted to read this book but after watching i kind of want to read it now and just see if i think its as bad lol
LOL - you are a masochist!
I don't know if you've ever read them, but there is a series called Book of the Gods, by Fred Saberhagen. I think you would like them, it's a very intriguing premise.
Thanks, I'll look into that one!
7 pages in and decided to Google it cause I was not loving it and came across this, and yes 😂 I don’t think I’ll finish it.
This book are sitting in my shelf I guess they are staying as a decoration in my bookshelf currently reading game of throne book 3
Yup, leave it on the shelf!
As I'm starting Nevernight days after finishing Empire of the Vampire and loving it -_-
I'm super glad you are loving it! I think most people do.
@Matt's Fantasy Book Reviews I wrote that oddly.. I ment I loved Empire... I actually pushed Nevernight down the TBR based on you vid
Nevernight is one of my top 3 favorites ever, and this video was awesome 😂 well done. You're wrong, but well done ❤
LOL. So glad you loved it!
I just finished this book. Acutely I just finished the series. I really loved it. I respectfully disagree with Matt's review, sometimes it takes a bit for a story to hit it's pace.
Although I listen to audiobooks, and do marathons, so I'm good with pacing.
I thought the flowery language was awesome, it reminded me of Shakespeare, because words are awesome and I'm ADHD so let's use all of them.
But Matt you got a new follower and I look forward to you recommends
I'm shocked! I love the Nevernight series! But, not for everyone. Still appreciate your honesty!🤷♂️🤣
So glad you liked it!
You cracked me up with that gag
Thank you!
I loved empire of the vampire! I can’t imagine disliking any of Jay Kristoffs works… is there anyway I will like this because empire is my favorite books I’ve ever read..?
Sure there is! Give it a shot, I think most people like this one.
I'm actually interested in reading this now, lol..
LOL, I hope you end up enjoying it!
Yeah, I was suprised when Mike loved and praised the series.
Me too!
What's that drink?
Water + food dye.
Originally the bottle was for vermouth.
Oh no, this is in my tbr piles, gonna find it and kick it😂😂
LOL
I loved this series but I agree with some of your points.
So glad this one worked for you!
“I don’t feel like living anymore…”😂
:)
This book makes me want to read Empire of the Vampire because I also really didn't like this book, for the same reasons. So that's a good thing.
I hope you enjoy it!
😂 love how you just say when you think something sucks. I'm currently reading this book, but keep getting bored with it, and putting it down to read other books (this has been going on for two months), then coming back for a chapter or two... I don't think this book was meant for us middle aged men 😅. With that said I'll probably finish it and read the rest of the trilogy at some point, because it's interested me enough to come back, and nothing yet has made me rage quite. BTW fully agree Empire of the vampire was much better!
I hope the series ends up getting better for you!
Great review Matt! I’ve heard way too many bad things about this series. 😂
I wish I listened to those people before I gave this one a shot!
Was really hoping for a Vizzini from Princess Bride death fall at the end of the video.
LOL I should have!
I loved these books but i also understand why some folks hate them. In fact I know a lot of people who hate them. This is a love or hate book for sure
The maps are great.
Is that poison that you are drinking!!! haha.. But, honestly, I am surprised that Jay Kristoff can write this bad. I have not read many books by him, just the first book in the sci-fi series Illuminae which was good and have heard good things about Empire of The Vampire. So, this is shockingly surprising. thanks for the honest review. :)
You're welcome! I do think he's a good writer, he just stunk it up on this one specifically!
Hi 👋 this book wasn’t for me too… like ur honesty! Happy reading to you!! 👍
Thanks Safina!
Lol. The poison sent me 🤣
Hope you recover soon from your poisoning Matt! Try some classic sci-fi to purge your system of the toxins. 😅
LOL, will do!
I love book one my gentle friend.
Glad you loved it!
You finishing a book you hated with a poisoned drink is really a chef's kiss
It had to be done!
Man, I didn't even make it past page 35 in this book. I couldn't deal with the writing. It's as inaccessible as it comes for us people on the spectrum. The similes made no sense and it was a chore to read. I just didn't feel like reading a book where I need at least 35 pages to get into it every time I started reading it. And those pages would take me an hour or, most likely, longer to read.
So even before watching this I feel like I've met a like mind.
I always feel like Strange the Dreamer by Laini Taylor is similar in the non-sensical writing, but at least Laini Taylor has a way with words I can appreciate. I just feel like that book didn't need to be over 500 pages (stopped at like page 240 in that one btw). And it's not even poetic writing that's the problem. I really like the writing in The Name of the Wind and I think it's pulled off well in A Chorus of Dragons, and ok in The Wars of Light and Shadow (even if it's a bit much in there, too much at times). Jay Kristoff is just not my style.
Also: is the poison an actual poison, like Pisang Ambon (which I think is about as shitty as this book. It stinks)?
Lol, naw it's water with green food coloring.
This review was such a fun watch. When a book makes you question if you enjoy living and makes you feel like you’re gonna fall asleep while driving, probably not a good book 😂. You drinking “poison” killed me as well.
Thanks Maria! Glad my pain could be your enjoyment! LOL
Mmmm mint liqueur, I need to get hold of some!
Lol. It's actually an empty bottle of vermouth with water and green food coloring inside.
@@MattsFantasyBookReviews Every "yiayia" home in Greece used to have some mint liqueur as "κέρασμα" for guests. I'd send you some but I'm afraid sending homemade alcohol abroad won't be something easy...
@@AntonisMatakos Half of my family is Greek, I 100% know what you are talking about. My Yiayia had the same!
@@MattsFantasyBookReviews I know! We've talked about your origins a few months ago. That's why I made that specific comment! 😀❤
I must admit that I'm quite fond of the series... the revenge story in this gothic setting where very, very bad things happen all the time... I mean, the first paragraph is really just so awesomely over the top morbid and disgusting that it made me laugh - and and sets the tone for the whole book (no it's not quotable here, you would have to read it for yourself 😛).
That said - I can absolutely understand that this is not for everyone - the author took some risks here (to say the least).
Very funny review though - loved it 😄👍
So glad it worked for you!
It's kind of unexpected watching you try your best not to insult the book at the same time letting us know how bad the book is LMAO I have read Empire of a vampire which I also thought was badass five-star read and then I went and started reading the book that you reviewed and I only finished the first 20% before I DNF it, horrible horrible book I completely agree I respect you for even doing a review on it at all keep up the good videos Man
Thanks, this one was absolutely brutal!
This was great!! ☠️
Thanks!
I *loved* Empire of the Vampire and *hated* Nevernight (couldn't get into it; never finished it)
There are dozens of us. DOZENS!
The poison 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I had to do it! :)
Great review, I’m upgrading my paetron lol
I appreciate the honesty
You rock so much - thank you!!!
Did you read the second and third book? I gonna say, nevernight os the best of 3 Lol... Maybe if the thriller should be one book I think it could be better... But the second book is tragic, like you said I slept sometimes... My advise is " don't read this book" if someone want read it.
Yeah I read the description of this book and noped out sooo fast...thanks keeping it real :)
No problem!
Wait- it was worse than Empire of the Vampire? Is that even possible? No wonder you’re drinking poison!!!
SO MUCH WORSE
That’s weird that you’re opinion is so so strong on this. I thought some of it was a bit immature and a few parts that were cringy however I understand that the target audience is probably younger than I am. I enjoyed it and thought 3.5/5 was fair enough. for you to give it as low as 1/5 was surprising considering other reviewers such as Petrik gave it 4.5/5. So certainly seems polarising!
He tends to give well-loved books (in the booktube community) a 1 star if he doesn't like them (did the same to latest mistborn book) Seems like a way to attract more viewers. 1-star is something almost no book deserves. I can understand 2 or 3 stars, but 1?...Nah
@@Steve-sr1ku agreed
I think a big problem that I'm just now realizing reading these comments is that the audiobook has a ton of footnotes (which isn't obvious since it's audio) that you can't skip. And the footnotes were a DRAG.
@steve, I appreciate the opinion, but it's pretty rare for me to give a 1 star review. The last one I did before this was 4 months ago, and I've read a TON of popular books since then.
@@MattsFantasyBookReviews yeah that must have been a bit odd, I skipped all the footnotes when reading
I don’t disagree with you at all about this book and I wasn’t going to read this author again but there was a lot of hype surrounding Empire of the Vampire on BookTube so I tried it and It was absolutely horrendous…it was easily the worst book I read last year and top 10 worst books I have read in my lifetime…I have no idea how you could like that book let alone give it 5 stars…To say the writing in this book was its strong point makes me seriously question your ability to diagnose good or bad writing…It certainly hurts your credibility with me going forward and in the BookTube community which by an overwhelming margin found this book to be horrible…But to each their own…This author is a horrendous writer…I don’t know him as a person but as an author he is not good…I will never read anything from him again and certainly don’t recommend him to anyone else…But on another note I do agree with you about The First Binding…Essentially a ripoff and certainly lacking originality…
I find Empire of the Vampire pretty divisive, as I've never heard anyone who said it was "okay" - it's either hate it or love it.
I think part of my enjoyment in it was that I listened to it on audio, and the audio narrator was absolutely wonderful, and really made all the characters pop to life in an amazing way. His accents were perfect.
Lol I love the negative review videos!
Thanks, I sure don't! lol
Thank you for the video. I disagree with most of your points, but that’s what makes the world interesting.
I think it’s funny that YOU think the author doesn’t understand girls. Where is your vast knowledge coming from? As a person who was a teenage girl (many years ago), amazingly we are not all the same. I was not at all taken out of the story by the female portrayal. I am weary of people who “know” things that they clearly do not. Just my two cents 🤷♀️
Yeah it's just my opinion, it's certainly possible Kristoff was writing women very well - but it came off way too cringey and not at all my experience.
As a woman, who was also once a girl, the way Kristoff writes from the perspective of a teen girl is full on super cringe to me. It come across as very obviously 'man-writing-teen-girl'. Just my two cents. Glad you were able to identity in his cringy female protagonist, I sure as heck couldn't :|.
@@lianai.9795 interesting
Oh wow, surprised it was that bad. Loved the poison, that was a nice touch!
Thanks Steve!
Hahaha, I knew it :D
You were right!
@@MattsFantasyBookReviews I just coudn't imagine you enjoying all this teen edgy/cringe dialog :D
I thought book 1 is entertaining. And you actually don't have to read the info dumps at the bottom of the pages. It's optional.
On audiobook you do.
@@MattsFantasyBookReviews I don't know how it was done in audio books. I read the actual book and loved it. But the info dumps was cut off from the main story and you do not have to read any of it.
@@dolongowoods4274 Yeah on audiobook it's unskippable and you have to listen to every single one.
Empire of the vampire is quite lackluster aswell in my opinion..purple writting and that´s fine...the plot while promising drags a lot, the twists are weak or meaningless..the characters are forgetable, I did not care for a single character dying on that book.
Yeah, for some reason it really worked for me. Possibly in part because I thought the audio narration was wonderfully done.
The steak is over 😂
It had to come to an end eventually!
This if so funny, I love the honesty 🤣
Thank you!
Wooow. Top 3 worst of all time? After you mentioned that you knew it would be bad after first 5 pages I paused the video, downloaded Kindle sample and... I like it. The writing is very flowery but it seemed to me in a good and interesting way.
I wanted to give this a shot ever since I read Empire of the Vampire but there's some other priority books to cross off my TBR first.
I'm surprised how bad your reaction is. To each his own of course but I often find myself agreeing with you. Probably the most out of all booktubers... I wonder if when I'll finally get to Nevernight I'm going to regret it.
Reading these comments, I think a big problem was that I listened to the audiobook. It has unskippable footnotes, and the footnotes are a DRAG.
Interesting take. I struggled through the first 100 pages (getting to the mountain), then blew through the rest of the trilogy in less than a week. Nevernight IS the weakest book because of that opening, but I found the rest to be a high-octane thrill ride.
I also started reading Kristoff with Empire of the Vampire (a masterpiece) and found his approach to prose to be almost identical between the novels MINUS the first one hundred pages of Nevernight. You're absolutely right - he WAS too wordy and descriptive at the start. But in my opinion, that flawed beginning didn't carry on through the rest of the series.
To each their own. I'll be right there with you when EoTV2 comes out.
Yeah I'm thinking part of my problem was the fact I listened to this on audio and couldn't skip the footnotes. I thought the footnotes were rather weak in this one and really dragged.
@@MattsFantasyBookReviews Ironically, there's an in-world reason why the footnotes are so flowery, dense, and self-assured of their "cleverness." It's truly an "Aha" moment when you find out what's going on. But I can 100% see how they would drag on Audio. Nevernight is probably THE WORST book you could ever listen to.
My big brother wanted me gift me something, so my smart ass asked for the nevernight chronicles box set! woohoo! I wanted it bcoz it seemed interesting and the reveiws on amazon were good. The box set arrived- books were in pristine condition and I was stoked! Started reading the first book and have barely progressed to chapter 6. fyi I got the box set in january.. it took me 6 months to somehow finish 6 chapters of this dreadful dreadful book!! It's soo boring.. the prose of jay kristoff is excruciatingly painful to read. I simply hate it.. and not to mention the extra info provided on every goddamn page as footnotes.. oh God! why ? and more than once those "footnotes" covered more than half the page! It was soo distracting and soo over the top. This book is a nightmare. I am happy to have found your review which is soo relatable and am utterly confused looking at the state of the comments. why is everyone supporting this shitty prose! it gave me a headache but it was people like these (in the comments) who pushed me to buy this book series. to each his own i guess. I've stopped reading the book at the sand kraken part - never knew an action sequence could be so terrible... and now begun reading my first brandon sanderson novel- mistborn! and I AM LOVING THIS PROSE!!!
So glad you are loving Mistborn! Try Stormlight after that, it's even better!
@@MattsFantasyBookReviews yes I'm going to move on to the way of kings once I finish the mistborn saga.. but before that I wanna read warbreaker. Heard a lot of good stuff about this one!
Waiting for your list of the worst books ever :D
Yeah the list is certainly piling up!
Oh nooo matt! After such a run you've been having of 5 star reviews! I guess it had to come at some point :/ .
It had to happen eventually!
What would be more torturous to you, being forced to complete this series or The Locked Tomb? Lol
This one, but just barely.
Thank god I never read this book I have tried reading two of Jay's books in the past and I absolutely should had dnf 😬😖
Sounds like he just isn't for you!
I liked the book. About the sex scenes he was right though they were cringe.
This is how I felt about 'the wandering inn' book one after trying it on your recommendation. That book has the worst start of any book I've read in recent memory. We will never see eye to eye on that one.
I will admit that the start to wandering inn is the worst part, and painfully slow. It does pick up though, but yeah if you hated it at any point it's probably not going to improve too much in your eyes.
I knew I wasn't the only one who didn't like these books.
There are dozens of us. DOZENS!
I don't believe what I'm hearing 😂
LOL
Despite the fact that I disagree with you about pretty much everything on this book, I still love your reviews. Keep being you 🤘
Thanks so much!
I also hated it!
I hated this book, the metaphors and similes were so bad that most of the time I didn't know what the f*ck the words were suppose to mean, they were just SO over the top, way way way over the top. I love a beautifully written book, and lovely prose, but this book was ridiculous. And hey, I have no issues with sex scenes, I read them, as a writer/published author, I write them, but the sex scenes in this book were cringy and weird and creepy, made more so that the POV is of 16 year old Mia is actually a middle-aged guy. I think a woman with a woman's POV and a woman's experience would have done justice to this story. I want to say that there are men who do just fine writing women. Garth Nix and his Old Kingdom books are some of my favorites that I've loved since grade school, so I don't have an issue with a man writing a young girl, if you want to check out those books I highly recommend them.
THE POISON HAHAHAHAHA hilarious!
:)
I feel vindicated watching your review. I'd seen so many people who absolutely love this book and series so I felt like I needed to force myself through it. There were some cool ideas but sheesh, it's one of the cringiest things I've ever read.
Yeah, it's a 100% cringe-fest.
haha well I guess this was my wish haha 😂 sorry 🤷♂
It's all your fault Dino! lol
@@MattsFantasyBookReviews haha
omg, it's not just me. I picked this up, first chapter or two I was digging it. Then it just fell off a fucking cliff. The cat thing, Mr. Happy or whatever the fuck.. just the entire vibe went from grim, potential bloody assassin to some wanna-be anime cartoon written by someone who doesn't know how.
There are dozens of us. DOZENS!
I'd prefer Nevernight over any of the non-stop drivel by Sarah J Maas or Colleen Hoover. But yea Nevernight being full of sexual scenes depicting a teenager and the weird plastic surgery undergone to be more desirable is extremely weird and cringe.
Luckily I've never had the drive to pick up a Maas book!
I know the writing style is very controversial and the similes and metaphors are over the top. This book has been on my never read list for that reason and this review further solidifies that decision 🤣
Yeah, and I think one of the biggest problems with the similes and metaphors is they are not well done, and super confusing.
I DNFed Nevernight just from the book jacket description. I just had a feeling it would be exactly like you described it.
You made a great call!
100% this book ruined a whole month for me because I had such high hopes, and created a reading slump. It wanted to be so edgy. The edgiest of edgy edgelords. At one point I just had to laugh. I totally agree!
LOL, yeah it's WAY too edgy.
I've tried to read both Jay Kristoff's books and all I can say is: this is not an author for me. Too much things/subjects I dislike in books in general are there.
Yeah, I really don't know why I liked one series so much and hated the other...but here we are!
You should have physically read it. You would’ve hated it more 😂
At least physical version I could have skipped the horrific footnotes!
I read this last month, disappointingly I have the second one too. If you were listening to this on audio the footnotes must have sucked the life out of you, at least with the book I could skip all that drivel. Seriously page after page of utterly pointless information that does nothing to move the story along and halts what plot there is.
Yeah the footnotes were BRUTAL. I would have skipped them if I could.
Clearly you didn’t actually pay attention to it or anything that happened
Sure I did, we just have differing opinions.
yeah I hear Jay Kristoff is just not good writer in general
I actually really liked his most recent book.
@@MattsFantasyBookReviews that's cool, I might have to check it out then
did you say "the amount of similies? and horrible term of phrase" to criticize the book's writing style? I didn't like the book either but to be honest this "it's the best book ever written or I want to give it a 0 stars on goodreads" style is getting a bit annoying, I get that this is youtube and so on but come on ...
Go read the first 10 pages and you will see what I'm talking about. It's done so much that it's almost obsessive.
I rarely give 1 star reviews, my average review score is about a 4/5.
I dare you to give the 2nd book a chance
Dare not accepted!