I owned a BYD EV; this is what you're really getting if you buy one...
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- I owned a BYD EV; this is what you're really getting if you buy one...
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I own a BYD Atto 3 and I'm loving it. Not quite the same acceleration as the Tesla 3 but more than good enough. I've done nearly 30K in less than 12 months. Very comfortable and so far very reliable. For the money, it's a no brainer.
Agree absolutely, they are excellent vehicles. In a value contest via a vis the TM3 the Atto is a no brainer.
You're supporting China, not United States
@@AI_effect EV drivetrain is very basic... battery power goes to motor to the gear to the differential to the wheels.....
@@AI_effect why would you want to support China
Very glad ur happy
BYD batteries internal construction differs significantly from traditional lithium batteries. Besides using folding technique instead of rolling the cathode/anode sheets to maximise space utilisation, it also uses similar tabless design like 4680 which means there are anode/cathode pairs attached on the end of each fold to enhance internal electron flow to the external anode/cathode connector. Thats why BYD blade batteries are safer and can charge/discharge faster than other LFP batteries with comparable performance as NCA/NCM batteries.
BYD has been producing batteries since 1995. They are the masters of batteries.
Tesla was born in 1856. Who’s the daddy now.
Tesla did not make batteries in person. @@johnhopkins4920
@@johnhopkins4920 I'm the daddy of you.
@@johnhopkins4920 BYD's founder's ancestors were born 5,000 years ago. Who's the daddy now?
@@johnhopkins4920go home kid. This is not a place for you
I saw a video of a teardown of the Atto3 battery. It is very compact, very well built and well designed.
Ty Fer ur comment soldier
@@sparkysho-ze7nm Yes Sir, always ready to please. And you can watch it too. Just go search for Atto3 battery tear down on TH-cam. Our American comrade in the US of A is doing a fine job making videos.
"I saw a video of a teardown of the Atto3 battery. It is very compact, very well built and well designed."
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I am an American living in Thailand, and I am seriously considering the Seagull here just to get around on shorter trips. Everyone I meet with an EV, I ask their opinion. Just waiting for the local dealer to offer the Seagull.
Past and present Us president advocate that buying Chinese cell phones and/or EV are a danger to national security.
Just back from a trip around central Thailand I spotted an agent selling the Seal somewhere near Bang Saphan, good looking, comfortable and luxurious, but quite low down for me and a small boot, coming from an SUV. I noticed on TH-cam there's a 'seal U', an SUV version of the Seal in China, but not sure if it's coming to Th.
@@christurner3857 yes, I have a dealer right in Chonburi and have seen them. I already have a Toyota Fortuner, but the price of a Seagull to get around short trips, is very attractive to me.
They are great vehicles.
The thin arrangement of BYD batteries in an aluminum housing helps with thermal managements and physically supports the battery preventing bulging and the degradations associated with those two stressors. Other manufactures will probable start adopting this style of battery cell housing..
And keeps bu ms warm in summer ☀️. Herro prease
After Elon laughed at BYD in one of his early Interviews, the CEO took it personally.
People called me skinny enough times it made me go to the gym.
Sometimes a little criticism is good. 😅
Very, very personal 😂
More recently Elon said that BYD was Tesla’s biggest EV competitor. BYD got a lot better.
@@juliahello6673 only in China…
Byd has improved some since th interview…… their efficiency an technology DESIGN AND SAFETY AINT TH BEST
i just had my 3rd maintainance service on my Han EV. it costs 150rmb roughly 20usd and includes a car wash. no parts need replacement and everything works like new. driving an ev feels like free.
Outside of China, that service will cost 200usd, and the car itself will be at least three time whatever you paid - not joking.
On the other hand, I can criticize my government, and not get locked up for it. Cheap cars, or freedom 🤔.
@@petercroft9895 different kinds of freedom. people in china can walk on street any time of the day not worrying about being robbed or stabbed. but i get what you are saying. life is not perfect.
@@petercroft9895 i was just listening to a talk by a Buddhist monk. One American become a forest monk in Thailand where rules were followed strictly and very rigid routine, meditation . He one day he complain to Abbot . i feel like i am in prison , not free. Abbot said do you think doing what you want , when you want ,will make you happy? you have lived 30 years of your free life, are you happy? if you are so free can you decide when to become hungry? become sick? can you decide when to become happy?
American are brainwash and delusional when they talk freedom. its so over rated .only removing hatred from your heart for other human being ,make you free bro.
As a Tesla owner - whats a Service?
@@qilu2004 I can walk outside too any time of day, and did.
Rather China, and SEA, has more freedom about regulations. You can do what you want as long as don't criticize government. Open a shop on street without asking anyone? Sure. Start selling alcohol? Sure. Change your ground level house to a restaurant? Sure. Start raising chickens and selling them to local businesses? Sure. Bribe the local police and they won't bother you either.
Here all those are regulated and need permissions and papers.
Another great video Dan. I'm seriously considering getting a BYD Seal when they launch in the UK next month. I think it's a great looking and extremely well equipped car. Your explanation of their blade battery is very reassuring and I'll be very interested to see what warranty is offered on the battery pack, rest of the car and mileage limitations when it does launch.
If the price is right it will be my next EV.
Sam Evans? Aka Dan =b all love just goofing.
Don't believe the marketing hype - find out what customers think of the Customer Service - if its the usual Chinese style, its appalling. Once you've bought it you are on your own..
Do you have an exact date when its coming?
And if so is it only for the UK or Europe?
@@sybaseguruplease throw out all the Chinese made stuff in your house... show you mean what you said... or is it just blind brainless hating?
What price r u expecting
What are my thoughts? You are right! My Atto 3 (and over 30K km. in it) proves You are right. And now --- I'm waiting for my Seal. That is why we all love You. Cose You are right. Greetings Viking! Adam. Bye.
Wow!!! BYD Seal 👍👍
@@ChinaSongsCollection I'm seriously tossing up between the Seal and the Tesla Model Q/2
@@greghudson9717 👍👍 Try them both out. Choose what's best for you.
Would love to know what you decided to get in the end.
@@ChinaSongsCollection My Tesla Model Y has lot of areas for improvement, but that applies to every Tesla ever built. Name one (excluding convertibles) car that does not have grab handles for ingress and egress? None other than Tesla that I can think of, and that's just the beginning. Are real functioning SPEED LIMITER Is my #1 on the wish list...
I ❤ my BYD Atto 3. It is so much fun to drive and there is enough room for the kids. The tech is awesome and you get used to the strange interior.
Imagine how demoralised the designers must be hearing people say they have to get use to the strange interior. 🤣Sometimes I think they come from a different planet.
So-called motoring journalists skip mentioning the battery chemistry when reviewing electric cars which is puzzling, considering it is the most significant part of the car.
We have had our Atto 3 (3rd in Tasmania, 2nd in Hobbiton) for just over a year. We love it. With PV, a house battery and charger, we only really have to pay to charge over Winter. Wish we could afford to buy a second one...
Afford to buy a second one, ha ha ha.
- do you have a more economical second car?? - or is that "shanks' pony" + bicycle ??
BYD seagull is coming. A very capable inexpensive city car.
Cynical people out there, re negative comments about affording a second new car so House payments,car payments can really streach the budget. So keeping the 2 car that is most likely paid of is a wise idea at least you get to eat. However some comments are made by fabulous rich commenters 😂😂😂 reminds me of UK sitcoms staring Mrs Bucket. I personally would like the top of the range Lexus but alas I’m not Rockefeller so I’m shopping in the Kia electric you’ll be difficult to be BYD
I am not a particular fan of EV and the argument comes up re-replacement battery costs if you blow up a V8 Toyota land cruiser it’s a $45,000 motor replacement blow up some modern gearboxes there’s no change it out of $15,000 it’s not difficult to spend 10,000 on repairs on the car now diesel or petrol it will be unlikely that I’d buy a petrol or diesel car on my next change over straight out maths I will looking at the total overall cost of the motor vehicle so currently the choices are diesel the best it is a Toyota hybrid just had like CVT transmissions or EV The affordability and running cost I now heavily favouring EV but the reality is everybody of the world changes to EV there is literally not enough power stations In the world to supply charging of a structure in my case I have my own solar system so I’ll be fine
BYD/TESLA, it doesn’t matter, we are on same team, that’s what is important. 😊
What team? The vegan woke my pronouns are they /them team ?
Same team? CCP vs USA. Pick one.
No, this serious competition. The size of the potential EV pie is fixed, Tesla is losing market share in the U.K. it’s rate of growth is lower than the overall U.K. EV growth indeed MG has overtaken it, before BYD arrived. Approximately there are 850,000 EVs in the U.K., against a total car population or size of the pie of 33million so we are at 2.5%. BYD is arriving with 5 models and engaging with the existing fleet and dealer system to make quick in roads , against Tesla’s 2 models who paddle their own boat regarding dealerships.
@@gaijinfishing USA is a hegemon, a war monger, a murderer. USA has few friends.
@@gaijinfishinghe means they're both good EVangelists.
Best wishes to you and your family 👍
Thanks so much
Wish you and your family all the best!
Well said Sam. For countries outside of China, the price of a car with a blade battery is often far higher than what it should be. Once we can figure our way around that, I too am a big fan of anything with BYD or Gotion LFP cells.
Good job Viking! 😊 👏
Well one certainly would not purchase anything from LG Chem and the platforms that hold these batteries in them.... Nice Post....
1:19 I think you underestimate the cost of a new engine. I had a VF SSV commodore that broke a timing chain while under warranty - The dealer initially disputed the warranty claiming it was 1200k overdue for the 30k service and sent an estimate for $15k for a long motor replacement and labour. The car was $45k new. I did get it repaired for free after fair trading intervened- the same new stock crate motor is around $15k on its own these days.
Thanks for setting things starlight, Sam. 🙂
Always!
Thanks for all the great content! I made a booking for the TM3 LR last month, but have decided to wait until the Seal launches here in Malaysia. If the price is as low as it is in places like Oz and Thailand I'm quite willing to "donate" that booking fee to Tesla :D
BYD is a good buy. Worth the money. A lot of bad comments are ill intended
I saw an Atto 3 in the flesh again today and thought to myself how great it looked (in metallic grey) and a perfect size for a small family. Will get one once they do something else with the interior design language which I think is fussy and not to my taste.
LG. Best BYD videos anywhere 🎉
I bet Chevy Bolt owners would have liked a BYD blade battery from the get go.
Hi Sam so what type of battery is in the cheapest mg I know it's a lifepo4 but what brand are they do you think I love your videos thanks
I would wait for the next generation of Atto3, I think they can really improve on the styling, not that the current styling is bad but really not to my taste. The new Seal U looks good but needs to be more affordable.
Should compare the battery from BYD vs MG
So sorry to hear about your wife.
Thank you for all the positivity about BYD. Last week, I test drove a BYD Dolphin and straight away made a decision to get one.
These days I really want to try Zeekr 001FR. It was said own 1265 hp and 0-100KM just need 2.07s. It seems like a monster on raod.
I’d love a BYD. I’ve said so since the start. The thing is they’re not commercially available to civilians in Canada, yet. There’s a fleet of taxi cabs in Montréal but that’s about it. You can import it yourself but when you get through all the hurdles it’s more expensive than a plush Tesla!😮
For Canadians you need to wait for BYD's Sodium-Ion battery cars. They are much better for people living in cold areas.
wish good luck to ur family
Thank you so much
Cheers Sam mate
Lots of million mile Toyotas out there Vike.
good lord not one person tells you Gd bless you I hope you have all healed. 😢 Prayers for you.
Love the Atto3 in car G-strings 😂
Each to their own, I found it stupid.
There’s a good reason why even NMC ternary batteries are guaranteed for 125,000 or 8 years or 70% that’s because there average degradation is 2.3% per year meaning 13 years to reach 70% of cause this will be much longer if you look after the battery and usually charge 20-80% when rapid charging. 100% once a month on AC to balance the cells. Also don’t park up for long periods at very high or very low states of charge.
Batteries don't degrade like that, they start off with more yearly degradation and then taper off. That's how there's instances of Teslas going for 400k to 600k km without hitting 70% capacity, but mostly it's a gamble, batteries can still die unexpectedly before 200k km
@@antonio_fosnjar yes they do degrade faster to begin with but obviously battery car will increase its useful life. Very few fail under warranty.
Good tips!
@@antonio_fosnjar Batteries degrade 3-5% a year with more fast charging, more heat more damage and risk of failure. 1-2% degrade a year with slow charging 30-80%, less heat damage. Those battery stats from Telsa owners are flawed since most owners charge mostly at home with slower charging
@22phan I've seen one guy talking about his tesla S with 200k miles and above 80% charge, he charged exclusively with superchargers and the car is not new, I don't remember if it was legaci model S or not. But still, my point is that degradation tapers off, it's not a constant like 2% a year, it's more like 3% a yers for the first few years and then 1% the rest of the lifetime of vehicle
Considering buying the BYD Seal. Personally I think it looks better than the Tesla model 3.
Hi Sam, I have a BYD Atto3, and overall it's well worth buying. The battery is superior, and your point is valid; I can trust charging while in bed over the garage and revel in charging to 100% more often than not. The driving is excellent (better once the cheap Batman tyres go), and that is high on my list of priorities. The infotainment and genera quality of electronics are poor. Fortunately, you can forgive little annoyances when so much is right about the car, and there isn't a car at any price that's perfect. It needs more range and faster charging speeds for touring, but most of us fly these days. Locally, it is fit for purpose. However, I have done Brisbane to Adelaide and back with some pains, yet think I might drive back to Sydney in it for the next FCL event. I just hope they build more charging stations before February!
Have you seen the tofu buildings in China? Tofu cars. Tesla China probably the same.
Thats a good battery
I think if i hadn't driven the model 3 forst before the BYD i probably would have brought one. You still get that lovely pure electric acceleration ❤
Think about it supporting Chinese workers or American workers. I pick a Telaa
@@jonmunroe6689you know Tesla has a huge factory in China too, right?
@@jonmunroe6689 More than half of tesla car produce from China kid🤣
@@jonmunroe6689 50% chance the Tesla was made in China.
@@nagi-springfield93 They do ye but most of the money goes to design team etc. Tesla has insane profit margins in the cars. With BYD all the money goes to China, with Tesla maybe 30% if the car made in China.
Thanks
Welcome
ten thousand for the Engine 2 thousand for drive shaft 5 thousand for gearbox and diff 500 hundred for fuel tank and Pump ad starter motors generators water pump
Byd needs to come to US please
write to your corrupt politicians and demand it
Not going to happen unless they start making the EVs in US, Mexico, Canada, including batteries and components. The law becomes complicated on this issue. This was done to promote US EV production by the Biden admin. Otherwise BYD will not be price competitive.
@@Chainyanker007 I like gaic aion and nio as game changers
Chines MG4 is still great
Evening mate
You need to think about a whole lot of aspects of an EV purchase before you buy. Battery safety is the number one for me, but closely followed by what the vehicle actually offers, and importantly, how easy is it to live with every day. I don’t really care that much about chemistry or such like, unless it affects safety. I think the idea of removable packs are a much smarter idea than integrating the pack within the chassis (take a bow Nio). I can see some clear advantages in this regard. Overall, reviewing someones vlog who lives with one of these vehicles day to day is more important. There are many EVs out there but as TH-cam content shows, there are only a few that are really compelling.
Also, beyond the car is the country. So many aspects and complexity of how and who and what if and should might be considered.
@@TheRealBrook1968 By that logic, then anything that isn't associated with the U.S. is fine.
@@TheRealBrook1968 Absolutely. My thinking is that EVs are good for around urban areas, so range is not as big an issue for me. get the pollution out of a City could be the best thing we ever did. I’m kind of reminded that when ICE vehicles flirts took over from horse drawn carts, a lot of major Cities around the world experienced something no one saw coming (as far as I know), and that was the irradiation of airborne diseases in densely occupied spaces. Going to the country may still require hydrocarbons for now, although EVs are getting better at this. If you are a two car family perhaps you can have a small EV for the urban runs and an ICE/PHEV for longer trips. I don’t particularly want to be thinking about EV charging on a long trip. Doing the maths and chemistry thing whilst on holidays seems a bit naf. I just want to fill her up and head off.
@@GolLeeMeDon't you stop for eating if a long trip is more than 500 miles? I think people that drive 20-30,000 miles a year are those who appreciate the EVs the most.
@@leiflillandt1488 Ahhh no, actually. Never do 800km drives. Any more than 400km, I get a plane. I get bored driving long distances and travelling 800km would be off my list of things to do by car. As a rule I only stop for 10 minutes every 2 hours on a usual drive. Thats it. Just enough time to get a tank of fuel, on occasion, and have a drink. Stopping for 20-30 minutes would drive me upon the wall, possibly even longer if battery is rapid-gating in a recharge session. Thank you for raising this matter though, as I had not really thought about my own circumstances before ion long distance travel. 👍
🇬🇧 . I’m thinking of an MG4 SE SR
Taxis in Australia have gotten 500 000 + km on one motor/ transmission, I don't think it is too unusual - trucks do million. , I have personally had greater than 240k km (odometer) in 2 different cars - sold / scrapped, unrelated to engine / drivetrain issues. - Taxis have more up-time than is likely in most EV (top charging at ranks may be a good thing- swapping drivers at fuel refills keeps the car on the road for most of a 24hr cycle..
Drove both the model 3 and seagull in china. The tesla is more a brand statement so people know you can get one. For comfort and practical driving in city (which is 90%) of the time the seagull makes more sense. Also for long distance the tesla is hell on your back
Sorry to hear about your wife i hope she is okay
i woruld like to get a seal instead of tesla here in Canada if no extra tariff added.
What Sam didn't say was that he also owns (or owned) BYD shares (as did I). I sold mine, but I don't know if Sam did. You don't buy shares in the company of the car you drive if you don't like the vehicle - or do you? I now have a Tesla Model Y, (paid for by selling some of my TSLA shares) and I still have a nice pile thanks to the 15x share splits (1 x 5 and 1 x 3 = 15x total). And Sam also has (or had) TSLA shares too...
Warren Buffet is an investor in BYD
@@SimonFranck100 He WAS. I know he was selling off heaps for hundreds of millions, but I don't know if he still has any left.
Batteries are very important, but there is so much more to an EV such as software. Love my Model 3LR/FSD.
- indeed - some like VR rather than motoring - strokes for folks..
❤❤❤ Good Morning SAM
Good morning!
My wife dide in Cancer too. Found out in stage four
How far is BYD (using Nvidia Drive Thor) with self driving compared to Tesla"s FSD . And what other software system is in developmen to allow self driving cars in the future ? The future is robot-taxis in a Transport as a Service business model, in a few years people will not buy their own car. Might be an interesting subject for a future video ?
I think one big problem is how much costs to repair a BYD or Tesla in your country in the case of a minor accident.
Also ... their is a reapair shop in your region? How easy is to obtain spare parts?
First, you have to have the car well insured!
Second, you have to calculate with a stand still of approximately two months if something happens!
A video blogger in Finland had a small accident, impact from behind while standing in front of red light, with his Tesla Y. After 14.5 weeks the car was repaired! The shop though made a mistake! When they received the parts ordered, they realised that some more parts needed to be exchanged, and then they had to wait another 5-6 weeks.
The repair took a couple of days including the paint work.
Unfortunately, the insurance didn't cover the whole cost of the rental car...
If you buy a new car, maybe you need to use it almost every day!? Then it will be a quite big problem if you can't use it for more than three(!) months! ☹️
@@thenewage9723 The problem (at least at Tesla ) is that is difficult to repear. The body is made from one part.
A minor incident could mean total damage.
For example in my country insurance for a Tesla is 2000 euro and for a car which has approximately the same price is 1000 euro.
I spend 1000 euro per year on petrol . So .. what is the advantages?
I think at a Renault Megane E-tech. It is cheaper and their are repairs shops for Renault in my region.
@@plau2007 You need to take a serious look at all the components that make up the crash absorbing sections, front, back, sides and top. It's not the safest car in the world (EVER) for a reason...
@@greghudson9717 Renault Megane E-Tech has 5 stars at EURO NCAP. The numbers aren't as good as for a Tesla but for a around the city car I think it is ok.
No mechine.. what want you repair?
Is byd good or bad batery?
The Dolphin has a blade battery and starts at 24k in Japan? Is this shat it will be in the US?
Nice byd.
BYD are making sodium batteries to be backward compatible, so will be interesting to see how thing pan out
Is there a way to know what type of lfp batteries you have in your Tesla. I have a M3 rwd manufactured in china with Lfp battery. I suspect it is a catl battery but is there any way to know for sure?
For that you need to know the year it's being built.
It is a 2023 model manufactured the 30th of may
@@sarabystam9270 Have you asked Tesla? They have a complete record of every nut, bolt and everything else in your car, held in a database as a 'virtual' vehicle.
I understand you believe LFP batteries are the best choice. I'm just wondering why they're the lowest warranty of any Tesla batteries. They only have 100,000 mi warranty versus 120,000 or 150,000 for the other varieties.
Good point. Possible because of the higher price of the car?
Most likely because Tesla knows the LFP batteries will outlast the NMC batteries by a factor of 2 (at least). No need to warranty an item that will outlast the car ! IMO
It's marketing, market positioning and profit margins.
Upfront you don't want to signal to buyers willing to spend more money on higher grade models that maybe a key component like the battery may be inferior to the cheaper model in some way.
The profit motive is far less obvious unless you are a CPA. Under US accounting - provisions for warranty claims need to be accrued each year, these accruals eat into profit because they show up as an expense, the longer the warranty period the bigger the expense, so there is a profit impact regardless of how confident you are in the longevity of the product.
Tesla have figured that the 8Yr/100mi warranty on the base model is enough to provide sufficient confidence in buyers and positioned well enough so as not to cause doubt in the minds of potential LR and Performance buyers that they don't need / want to make it any longer.
You need to check the price tag of the cars with higher warranty.
I would like to buy either the BYD Dolphin or Seagull but these cars are not available in the US. Tesla has nothing similar right now.
Battery is always going to be a topic, the battery industry is still developing so the changes will be on going into the future. The real development in EV’s is the actual autonomous car! Otherwise there’s not a lot to talk about. Brands will be juggling for top spot.
In Israel they started selling in last 3 months of 2022 and now they are everywhere.
The reception is mixed on it yes, mostly due to the price. This will be a very good option as a used car after 3 years, when their lease is up.
I am still thinking of buying the tesla. BYD batteries are great, having it is good. The reason I want a tesla is the rest of the car. Software is everything and I want a car that has competent software.
Bjorn Nyland tested the Atto3 recently and found that the cooling algorithm while charging is letting the battery overheat before kicking on 100%.
Along with other complaints I heard from bad AC, bad lane keep assist, etc... They should really make better software. I know they can, and hope they fix these issues by the time I am on the market to replace my MG ZS.
I prefer gaic aion or nio
Hey Viking, check out diesel Mercedes if you wanna see cars traveling over 600 000 km with original engine. YMMV
there were articles 4 months ago about BYD and others storing thousands of new registered cars in fields, then about BYD fires, too many questions for me.
Waiting for byd ute
how do they compare to 4680?
Thanks again for giving me something to chew on.
waiting for buying one in the US.Not sure when that could happen. The US government is doing the wrong thing to block BYD cars here. Protectionism is really hurting the customers and the US car industry for long run. Lazy companies will loose the motivation for innovation, like Apple. What in Iphone15 can make you buy? Cheaper Huawei mate 60 phone can give you satellite voice call and Nearlink features etc.
I hope your wife is doing fine, Sam? 🥺
She did a video with Sam and she is suffering.
@@michaelbedard7859🥺
Link please
In Shenzhen, just about every taxi is a byd. I personally much prefer the teslas, but the byds are fine. The taxi drivers on the other hand complained that they spent too much of their shift charging and not collecting fares
This is a biggie!
(the chestnut - time charging is time not capitalising.)
I was talking to a BYD owner while we were both charging at a 11kW charger. My Model Y (with BYD battery) screen said I was charging at 11kWh (at 80% full) and she was only getting 6.6kWh (at 20% full). BYD need to lift their charging speed. The fastest I have seen is 256kWh at a 250kW SuperCharger (at 15% full). No wonder Tesla owners are terrified the SC's will be overrun by slow charging EV's...
@@greghudson9717 I was talking today to a guy with an Atto 3. I mentioned the Tesla advantage of the superchargers. He said here in South east Queensland, Tesla owners are charging at the non Tesla chargers because they are charging 30 cents per kwh as opposed to the superchargers cost of 60 cents per kwh. He was not a happy chappie.
@@greghudson9717- Egads, I get 7KW at home. But just normally charge at a new SC station 0.3 miles away since my ‘20 MS came with free SC charging for life of ownership. And latest stats seem to indicate frequent SC charging does not significantly hurt battery life. I also charge at home once in awhile since I also have a PV system and net metering. Sure beats pumping gas, trust me.
with everything being equal., i would buy a Toyota.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOLAR PANELS ADDED TO BYD CARS TO GET SOME FREE ELECTRICITY. THIS SHOULD BOOST THE SALE OF BYD CARS.
Agree and there will be some solar panels doing 40% efficiency next year !! Makes sense to put some on a car now for sure 👍
The Biggest problem I can see ...And its a big one ...
Its that the steering column is on the wrong side :)
The steering wheel is available on either side (just not in 'merica) ;-)
I actually one of the early one who has booked atto3 and cancelled it after model y came out. I like byd but what really turn me off is the funky interior of atto3. I will look into byd other model again if the interior is not so bizarre like a seal u.
0 byd cars on sale in Canada...what a shame.
old mercs were known for doing over a million miles, but the modern fuel injectors limit the lifespan of internal combustion engines. you won't find a car made after the 90s that can do it
A Dodge Cummins Diesel will. You'll replace the transmission a few times however.
I had an old Merc. It died, forever, at 360,000km. I had hoped it would go 1million. The best longevity I ever got was out of a GM V6. It did 760,000 km before parking it for good.
Our old V6 Camry got retired at 420 thousand km. Engine and trans were golden, it was everything else that was falling apart - but it was over 20yo at point, and not worth fixing.
BYD Atto is more expensive than Tesla Model 3 here. Is it better too?
Is the Tesla better? Yes and No. Google it.
When the timing belt snapped on my Alfa is basically destroyed my car
The car only travelled 64k I had changed the timing belt prior
Ice cars too many issues and repairs not worth it constant at mechanics
Not only does an electric motor last a lot longer than ice but also the electric transmission also lasts a lot longer.
Also no exhaust system and cooling systems to have to fix and maintain.
What make you think there are no cooling system(s) in an EV ? My Tesla Model Y has at least 2. One for the battery, and one for the people inside.
@@greghudson9717
I am talking about a radiator and system.
@@ronmatthews2164 Yes, my Tesla has a radiator too. Saying there is no cooling system is simply not correct. Do you actually OWN a Tesla ?
What a geek car.
Heat effects on battery pack??
Tesla batteries are liquid cooled (or heated if it's cold). When the battery is too hot the fluid flows to a radiator at the front of the car (fan cooled if required)
But blade batteries don't have fluid but Nano Technology for cooling...but how hot can a Blade batteries stand up to 160 F road temps? Non shaded charging area with asphalt at 200F ?
byd atto 3 here in the uk STARTS AT £37OOO they obviously dont want to sell any here lol
We need battery with energy density 500Wh /kg , everything below that is pure limitation of EV progress.
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Look, you can either buy a BYD battery with the car or buy a BYD battery with extra steps.
A coworker mentioned this brand to me recently. Finally got a chance to look it up. While it’s not offered in the US, this seems like a promising competitor on the world market. So far from what I’ve seen I’ve only seen a couple bad things, catching on fire, recalls, as you have with cars, and EV’s. Unless you have a Hyundai or Kia. It’s still a crap shoot
I like your show, but this show was confusing!
Why aren't BYDs offered in the US? Thanks!
Ask your government. Keywords, China, espionage, tariffs, blah blah blah....On the other hand, Tesla is running happily in China.
You could buy a Highland now.
Please don't perpetuate the myth about the battery. It is not 40% of the price of the car. LFP battery prices are $100/Kwh. This means that for the 82KW battery in the Seal the battery price is A$13,000 which represents selling 20% of the price.
Isn't health care in Australia free?
Theoretically yes. But you have to WAIT for a spot, but you could die in the meantime.
@@greghudson9717 So you pay to go up a spot?
There's no way the battery pack is 45% of a car's cost now. A 50 kWH pack @ $150 or so per kWH would be only 7.5k or 10k @ $200
Likely depends on what car you are looking at. A $10k Seagull with a 38 kWh battery would need that battery to come in at $118/kWh to be 45% of the cost. An Atto 3 in China would need a $130/kWh for it to be 45%. In more expensive markets or for more expensive models, the equation changes. And that is net cost. If you are looking at manufacturing cost, the battery cost would need to be even less expensive.
@larryevans6739 Yes, good point Larry, and there's no way the batteries of a 80k Tesla cost 32k+
- show me where to get automotive grade -AA, LiFePO4 cells for $150 per kWh - I want 100 right now. lol...
(production cost ?? - not cost to retail (with warranty and QA.)
- no there is no way an 80K Tesla is worth that - perception is key - the Verifiable - Tesla dead battery "swap out of warranty" price at cost, is about half the 32k guess (retail prices are rarely that low for a long miss) - and only on exchange basis with a valid VIN - ie. not available on the open market.
@@kadmow agreed, and Sam keeps saying battery cost is an incredibly high % of total manufacturing cost. He's said close to 50% on numerous videos, which is clearly BS. Even at $200 per kWH, the long range Model 3 batteries would cost around 12k, and there's no way the car costs only 24k total to produce. Cell cost is also only part of the total cost of the battery pack, so a reduction in cell cost doesn't lead to the same % reduction in total pack cost, making his claim for total vehicle cost reduction relative to cell cost decline even less accurate.