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  • Wing foiling gear is not cheap, so it's important to take care of it. In this video we share with you a few maintenance tips that will help you keep your gear in top shape for years to come. A lot of these tips can be applied to all foils, any wing or kite. If you have any other tips please feel free to share it in the comment section!
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  • @robmac3287
    @robmac3287 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always great info and energy. 👍

  • @Andyman66
    @Andyman66 ปีที่แล้ว

    All great information and great comments from the wider community. I’m picking all my gear up on the 5th of September and this content will save me time and money. Thank you and keep it coming. I haven’t got any experience at all, so anything you share on here is much appreciated and valuable knowledge 👍 Great work guys.

  • @DMT4Dinner
    @DMT4Dinner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your videos are right on time for my progression into the sport. See you on the water!

  • @dannyjensen4954
    @dannyjensen4954 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great topic. Thanks for making this video.

  • @gilldebruyne2910
    @gilldebruyne2910 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for all the tips!

  • @Bido11561
    @Bido11561 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for all these videos. Very easy to follow and to the point. Starting with wing foil journey in NY this spring

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  ปีที่แล้ว

      Brian thank you, enjoy the ride you are going to love it!

  • @jonathankerner2094
    @jonathankerner2094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sage advice Dimo-Dimo. You are fortunate to be able to say "there are no kinks in my bladder!" Bringing that spray bottle is a good idea. Poor Gwen, you busted on him. Great video!

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks buddy we are trying Gwen rocks!

    • @orionfranklin2636
      @orionfranklin2636 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pro tip: watch series at Flixzone. Been using it for watching a lot of movies these days.

    • @ishaanbeckham595
      @ishaanbeckham595 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Orion Franklin Definitely, I have been watching on flixzone} for since november myself =)

  • @tonywood6163
    @tonywood6163 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really love these videos. Just bought my gear and about to start

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  ปีที่แล้ว

      Enjoy the learning process Tony! Not easy but 100% worth it.

  • @CuNimb
    @CuNimb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks, this was really useful!

  • @cefirmeza
    @cefirmeza 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice content. Very few kiters know this. Very common to rinse kites with fresh water. I never do it.

  • @liverestorehavefun7795
    @liverestorehavefun7795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brother I am in ft Lauderdale...I love your content, I just got my wing and trying to get into the sport, when you normally are in the beach so I can pass by to say hi!!

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Anytime there is wind my brother! Juno Beach shower #33

  • @glimpseireland2005
    @glimpseireland2005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great stuff, thanks for the tips. I am still in the very early stages of learning, but this channel is helping a lot. I have been greasing the bolts in my foil occasionally, and usually try to get as much sand as possible off the wing at the beach. Centre strut stays inflated and I roll the wing sides in pretty much the same as you have shown, so far, so good. Keep this content coming please, it is appreciated.

  • @johnstevenson3429
    @johnstevenson3429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hey there. Couldn’t agree more with your advice. The seizing issue is due to galvanic corrosion. Because you have stainless steel bolts (necessary for their high strength) going into aluminium in the presence of an electrolyte (salt water), the aluminium corrodes super fast. Any grease that inhibits the metal to metal contact reduces this big style. I’m using copper grease (just because I have it) but bicycle grease or anything will do it... 😎

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much for your info! We really appreciate you!

    • @JamesLamb
      @JamesLamb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For another purpose I needed some stainless steel bolts, and a store that sold these and other sailing gear had some rather gooey grease for putting on bolt threads to prevent galvanic decay.

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JamesLamb Great help thank you!

    • @capicella
      @capicella 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tef Gel works great. Damien your videos are awesome. Newbie to almost jibing in a few months.

  • @aquilesmasdmd
    @aquilesmasdmd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are awesome!

  • @darcydejoux3614
    @darcydejoux3614 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice ... I try and look after my gear as much as possible.Been rinsing wing tbh maybe not good ...I use Lanolin grease which is natural (made from sheep wool or something) works great have had no problems with corrosion (F One Gravity 1800) but i also disassemble foil a bit and rinse everything including threads .To me it is worth taking the time to maintain as gear was expensive.Although got foil second hand.

  • @3421Greg
    @3421Greg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I tried the fold the leading edge down flat method. It ended up with the connection for the one-pump to the strut sitting up at an odd angle, and a kink in the hose. You also get a twist when you roll it where the fabric transitions to the tips.
    I find a better way is to pat the leading edge tube so that it is flat with the seam lying down the middle of the fabric. The bladder is still nice and flat and untwisted and the one-pump fittings and tube sit flat with no sharp bends and no twists.
    When pumping up you need to pump at a leisurely pace (not slow, not quick) and watch the leading edge and the strut as it inflates. You should see the bladders inflate to nicely fill the spaces as you pump. The strut usually fills after the main bladder has a little pressure. If you see any voids inside the fabric and you're starting to get a little pressure inside then there's a chance the bladder has twisted or folded over. You need to start again, or even open the zip and fix it.

  • @profusionlifetv7183
    @profusionlifetv7183 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just washed my wing with fresh water on the way home today🤦‍♂️ I’ll take it out and let it dry tomorrow. Thank for the info!

  • @dutchgirl2
    @dutchgirl2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We are winging in La ventana Baja with a lot of bigger waves. Any tips on riding over the waves if you are not on the foil yet

  • @rebllion9866
    @rebllion9866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey! You should crop out and make a separate video on the part about folding the wing. there are lot of videos of people pumping the wing, but i I think is the first one I have encountered about folding it! luckily I basically have a similar way, just by trying to stay conscious getting my wing out first time and trying to fold it as efficiently as possible...

  • @Andyman66
    @Andyman66 ปีที่แล้ว

    From a total beginner perspective, have you done any videos on wind conditions, strengths and what to look for? What are good, great and dangerous etc. I guess I will be able to find something on TH-cam if not. Thanks, Andy

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  ปีที่แล้ว

      Andy, There are a tone of videos. Here is one: th-cam.com/video/Dh5SHV9ApbI/w-d-xo.html

  • @sourmash1972
    @sourmash1972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After I have rolled up the first side of the wing I tuck the leash over and back under it so that as I roll the air out of the second side the first one doesn't start to unravel.

  • @christopheredens
    @christopheredens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thoughts on rinsing (or not) for those of us winging on freshwater lakes? Just getting started thanks to your channel!

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fresh water you should be fine, It's salt water that can take a toll. Would not hurt to wipe it down with a towel after.

  • @lustigmountain
    @lustigmountain 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Damien, brand new wing foiler...day 4 was today and had an aha moment! Got up on foil a few times - thanks for your videos, very helpful.
    Question, can I store any or all of my gear in a garage over the winter? It will get cold in there...Thanks! Scott

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep you will have no issues! Pumped you are loving it.

  • @alejandrophillips8281
    @alejandrophillips8281 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recommend using dual system air pumps because it inflates and deflates the wing

  • @casscassy9174
    @casscassy9174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Damien 👍🏻👍🏻 awesome tips. My 4.9 lift sport just arrived today 😊 Do you suggest I use anti corrosion for the screws on my mast and wings? I will be efoiling in the sea.

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cass, not needed really as its all carbon fiber. The reel X is more for the hinges, all your connections, data cables and so on..... my thoughts. Enjoy it....

    • @casscassy9174
      @casscassy9174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DamienLeroyTH-cam thanks so much for always replying 👍

  • @user-vs3sj3le3s
    @user-vs3sj3le3s 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot for the advice! Apart from maintenance on the land, during crashes & falls while foiling I wonder if there is any efficient way of preventing the risk that the foilwing destroys the kite? I guess this question is related to correct falling. Maybe try to keep grab of the kite and keep it up when falling into the water??

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is part of the process! Falling and ripping wings is part of the learning process!

    • @user-vs3sj3le3s
      @user-vs3sj3le3s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hmmm... as you said in the first 5 seconds of your video, the gear is expensive... having spent a fortune i wouldnt mind skipping (or at least minimizing) that part of the learning process...

    • @3421Greg
      @3421Greg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have had good luck with climbing on top of the wing to hold it down, then using hands, feet, whatever to fend off the board and foil. I don't claim it's a cure all, but it has worked when I have done it so I'll keep trying it when the situation demands.
      You need to position your body on the strut and/or leading edge tube similar to kite self rescue position. Avoid getting your body or knees on the canopy or window.

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@3421Greg Thank you friend....

  • @FranciscoRodriguezCasal
    @FranciscoRodriguezCasal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your videos.
    I have one question: As the wing have a one way valve, how to know the pressure is correct?
    And,
    There are any after market kind of valves like sup boards to know easily the pressure?
    Thanks in advance!

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      All wing companies are different but most of the time you want it nice and firm. They are very strong so you can make it quite tight.. Around 9-10PSI in general....

    • @christopheredens
      @christopheredens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have a double action pump (fills on the up and down stroke), switch over to single action (fills on the downstroke only). Then look at your pressure gauge on the pump on the downstroke while pumping.

  • @robertrecco710
    @robertrecco710 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t need the lube for the foil Armstrong foils I leave them together hole season and when iam ready to take them apart no problem god bless Armstrong and there Products best foils I ever rode

  • @jdposner
    @jdposner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The phrase your looking for is galvanic corrosion. Corrosion due to dissimilar metals.

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much! I knew I was off but I hope I got the message across!

  • @kennethrobinson9553
    @kennethrobinson9553 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some good tips. Not sure about the Wing being left with salt on it though? Couldn’t you clean off with fresh water, then dry.

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not recommended to rinse your wing with fresh water my brother. Mold can happen if left wet. It's not needed. Best to just lay everything out and let dry!

  • @captainpedro99
    @captainpedro99 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Damian, as always thanks for the info. By the way any advice on how to maintain and or replace the rubber tube connecting my strut to my leading-edge bladder as they have become sticky and I'm guessing will fail soon. Don't know why the rubber get sticky and sticks to the Dacron material when folded up.

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think you can just cut and zip tie new tubing on, not hard at all just have to get some new tubing. They get old and dry rot or get sticky. I have seen it.....

  • @krispewkrem3
    @krispewkrem3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I flex sealed my wing tips. ONLY because I skateboard with it and have scraped the ground. This protects it from the ground.
    But if you don’t use your wing on land, you should be fine.

  • @kaykaycobbs7950
    @kaykaycobbs7950 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you deflate your center tube? I have a new wing and that part does not want to deflate. I have tried to move in around and open up the port to that section?

  • @theleviathan0
    @theleviathan0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just ordered a lift. Is there any risk to stripping the screw where propulsion mast connects to board ?

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have never seen that happen so risk is low! :) Just make them nice and snug..... :)

    • @theleviathan0
      @theleviathan0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DamienLeroyTH-cam Thanks. Mine should arrive any hour now. Looking forward to making video. It happened on my kiteboard, so im always worried about stripping :(

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theleviathan0 You are going to have the time of your life! Enjoy friend.....

  • @thechadfords
    @thechadfords 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive got an Ozone Wasp V1 and the tiny tube between centre and wing struts makes deflating (and inflating) super annoying! It kinks if you try and roll wing like you did and centre won't deflate.
    Has anyone mod'd that tube to easy vent the centre tube?

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most are like that friend.... Its the one pump system..... Patience is the key! Ahhhhhhh

  • @BrandonSchmit
    @BrandonSchmit ปีที่แล้ว

    When we get a our paragliding wings wet with salt water, we must absolutely rinse them with fresh water and fully dry the wing before storage. If you let salt water evaporate on a nylon paraglider wing, the salt crystals form and are sharp and will literally cut the fibers over time and ruin the wing. Is this not the case with inflatable wings? I'm assuming in a marine environment, the high salt concentration will prevent mold growth and that's better than having dried salt crystals then?

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brandon, Well I think you are talking a very minimal times your paraglider getting wet in the salt water so I think you are doing the right thing. With Kites its likely the same you are saying but if you wash your kite ever day over and over it defiantly will wear your kite material down faster 100%. As far as salt cutting the fibers and ruining the kite, I personally have not really heard this maybe the material is a lot thicker on kites. Not sure but thank you for sharing.

  • @alejandrorossi7189
    @alejandrorossi7189 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Damien. Where are you guys filming these videos? Any beach in Florida you would recommend to wing foil? Any place where I can rent equipment? Thanks.

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We fil at Jono beach in Jupiter and in Stuart a the Causeway! You can get gear though supporting our channel at Order your wingsurfing gear, kiteboarding gear, foiling gear at adventuresportsusa.com/?ref=DAMO and support us and the TH-cam channel!
      Get 5% off any gear using discount code DAMO5

    • @alejandrorossi7189
      @alejandrorossi7189 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DamienLeroyTH-cam Im from Argentina and planning a trip there. Do you also rent equipment there? Thanks!

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alejandrorossi7189 Unfortunately I do not but there are some shops in the area that can help 100%!

  • @LuigiFontana64
    @LuigiFontana64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Damien could explain what fresh water do to the wing? Ciao

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really its just best to let your wing dry. All that happens with fresh water if left say in a ball or super wet, you can get mold, mildew and some satining on the fabric!

    • @alistairglen3537
      @alistairglen3537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The freshwater supports various microscopic lifeforms (such as moulds and mildews) that don't seem to be present in saltwater in a form that would harm your wing/sail/kite. The saltwater will take slightly longer to dry than freshwater and salt crystals will form on the fabric but they aren't particularly harmful. However, once the sail/wing/kite is dry, give it a good shake to dislodge the, now dry, sand from the seams, webbing, etc. It's the abrasive action of the sand that will do far more harm than the salt on the fabric. When it comes to 'hardware', such as foils/extensions/bars/cleats, etc, always rinse with fresh water and lubricate in line with manufacturers' instructions. Damien is correct about creating a barrier between dissimilar metals (Aluminium/stainless) but the use of carbon also requires a barrier between it and stainless if it's going to be left assembled for any time (particularly in salt water). Use a product such as Tefgel or Duralac on the bolts to prevent galvanic action between the two materials.

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alistairglen3537 Thank you friend....

    • @johanbergkvist8834
      @johanbergkvist8834 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@alistairglen3537 I was surprised when Damien recommended to not rinse the wing. Your explanation makes perfect sense, thank you!

  • @jacobdibble756
    @jacobdibble756 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damien, your videos ae super helpful and i keep referring back to them!
    Not sure if this comment belongs here but maybe related enough -- when i'm pumping the wing, the gauge shows different PSI as i'm pushing vs. when not pushing. What is the correct time to check the 'true' pressure of the wing?

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great question. I think a lot of the gauges are not always very acurate as to the reason you are asking the question. I would go off, feel my friend. You want the wing very firm to touch. The other option is with your pump mark a spot and as you hit the spot say on up or down pump remember it, , use the wing, if it was perfect you know exactly where to pump on your pump to hit the correct spot. Also remember when it touches the water if its cold water it will loose a little less pressure as well. A little tip a lot of people do not think about....

  • @TheYellowDmon
    @TheYellowDmon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can i use Copper Ease anti seize compound on the bolts?

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As long as it's anti seize, I am sure it will help but I do not know this company specifically!

    • @danielg5635
      @danielg5635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please don't use copper based anti seize. The combination of the copper with the aluminum and the stainless steal bolts will speed up the corrosion. Just use marine grade or ordinary grease. PTFE based should also work but it is not very environmental friendly.

  • @lorenzogiannantonio9288
    @lorenzogiannantonio9288 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could be useful wax on a aluminum foil?

  • @zipcheckcheck
    @zipcheckcheck ปีที่แล้ว

    Salt water is highly corrosive. After use make sure to rinse all of the salt water off anything plastic, rubber or metal...don't forget about your leash.

  • @mthelm85
    @mthelm85 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff. I must say, though, I disagree with the advice to not wash the wing with fresh water. I'm a windsurfer who just got into winging and I've heard windsurfers say the same thing about their sails but I've always washed my sails and they stay in really good condition. The key is simply to let them air dry after washing them. If you wash it with fresh water and then roll it/pack it up, of course you're going to get mildew. I wash all my gear with fresh water and then lay it out on my garage floor until the next day when it's completely dry. Only then do I pack it all away.

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Matthew windsurfing sail material is different than wing/kite material. FYI No stress at all just enjoy the sport my friend. We are just trying to help.

    • @mthelm85
      @mthelm85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DamienLeroyTH-cam For sure! I love your videos and your positive vibes! You are right about the material being different so I just wrote the manufacturer of my wing (Slingshot) to ask them what they recommend regarding washing the wing. This way, I can be sure. I'll update this comment when they reply : ) Keep up the fantastic work man, your videos are extremely helpful and encouraging to new wingers like myself.

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mthelm85 We appreciate you friend!

    • @paulb470
      @paulb470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mthelm85 did slingshot reply? I’ve just bought the new slingwing V3 and have always washed my windsurf kit so it seems alien not to??

    • @mthelm85
      @mthelm85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paulb470 Yep - they said to always wash any gear that's been in saltwater. I just make sure to let my wing dry completely by laying it out on my garage floor for about 24 hours

  • @KitesurfingAcademy
    @KitesurfingAcademy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another tip: DO NOT dry your wing or kite on your lawn on a sunny day!!! You gonna bake the grass underneath... I tried this recipe, does not taste good... ;)

  • @fw4815
    @fw4815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just wanted to remark that it is extremely irresponsible to recommend putting any type of oil or anti seize on the foil bolts. The mechanical way of breaking the seal after a session is sufficient to prevent corrosion lock-up. The anti seize depicted in this video is a category 1B carcinogen, as can be seen in the material safety data sheet of the product. It is classified as a marine anti seize but this applies to boat engines etc and not to parts directly exposed to sea water.
    Very irresponsible to recommend putting that on parts that are exposed to high hydrodynamical stresses. Our sport is taxing enough on the environment by use of compound materials such as resins and fiberglass/carbon fiber. Let’s not add more environmental stresses just because we are too lazy to crack loose a couple of bolts manually after a session. If you rinse your gear in fresh water anyway, just loosen the bolts a little before doing so and let the fresh water get right into the threading.

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your insight friend we appreciate your thoughts.

  • @oscrem78
    @oscrem78 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What????
    Rinse with not salty water then let it dry, isn't the way to do it after a session???

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, not ideal to wash your wing or kite with fresh water after every use. The key is to let it dry after all uses. It will last longer if you just try and keep it dry vs washing it every time after use. You are breaking down the coating faster.

  • @robertrecco710
    @robertrecco710 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Throw out that crap and get yourself an Armstrong no maintenance needed just rinse or you can keep them together for months and they still will come apart plus they are far better riding foils then the other crap that I tried just that you’re going to have to dig deeper into your wallet but in the end it will be the only foil you Will have for years to come

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your insight.....

    • @robadair
      @robadair 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am an Armstrong fan boy but Lift foils are not crap. Not in the least.

    • @DamienLeroyYouTube
      @DamienLeroyYouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robadair Armstrong makes a good foil for sure friend...