Richard Stratton. I've heard of that name before. Pretty good voice for these mighty working bulldogs many folks today know of as the American Pit bulldog. Another fine book to have is "The Working Pit Bull" by Diane Jessup. I truly respect bulldogs. Not only swell companions, but high drive working/purpose dogs that do their all to serve their masters. The APB is a dog that was designed and used as hunting dogs, butchers dogs, and as warring dogs in the bloodsport of bull and bear baiting. Dogs like APBs are what people would call gripping dogs: dogs that are able to hunt, control, or catch large game by getting a good grip and work to either throw the large beast off balance or hold it in place for the farmer, rancher, or hunter. Like dog expert, author, and breed historian Diane Jessup writes: “First a hunter, then a butcher's dog, then a baiter, then a dog fighter, American Pit Bulls which display behavior typical of their heritage are gripping dogs; they come from a long, long genetic history which dictates they get a hold and HANG ON! This behavior saved their life during the years they were hunting boar, stag and bear, and also stood them in good stead when they moved on to working bulls, bears and other animals in baiting sports. This same behavior can work to make breaking up a fight quite easy and safe. The Pit Bull is a bulldog in action and appearance. He is a gripping dog - not a terrier (which means Earth dog which pursues its quarry underground). The English bulldog is a relatively recently developed animal designed strictly for the show ring. In fact, English bulldogs were not even created until several years AFTER bull baiting (the purpose for which it was supposed to have been bred) was banned and discontinued in the United Kingdom. So, it is impossible for the Pit Bull to have been developed from a breed younger than itself. In fact, the English bulldog is developed from the original working bulldog - the Pit Bull. Written Pit Bull pedigrees date into the late 1700's. The history of the Pit Bull far predates the time when bans on bull baiting caused blood sport fanciers to turn to fighting dog against dog."
Some people have actually made sport out of their original purposes such as bull baiting, bear baiting, and hog baiting or what some folks call adu bagong. Here is an example of one: www.yourepeat.com/watch/?v=bCMp0vggywo I know some folks may cringe at this, but it's history and part of what these bulldogs are all about. Don't reckon how I feel about fighting bulldogs against each other. I'd rather see a bulldog on a hog than another bulldog anyday, but from reading such books by Richard Stratton, I've begun to understand, tolerate, and even sort of respect what is being done there, since it is a sport which is designing and looking for everything that bulldogs stand for: drive, power, agility, quickness, stamina, people friendliness, and true grit. All these qualities make for the fine working dogs we know today.
***** Actually, buddy, I don't reckon I've been on every single bulldog video on TH-cam. There's a lot of them out there and I'm not a betting man, but I bet I haven't even scratched the surface of videos that have been made and never will, especially when there are videos made practically every day. And it is not misinformation. It's information on the breed by dog professionals, breed historians, and authors such as Diane Jessup and this Richard Stratton fellow, which is the author of the book featured in this video. Actually, Diane Jessup states that these dogs do have terrier blood as well as mastiff blood. She says that: “There is some terrier blood in the modern Pit Bull. Terrier blood was added, just as mastiff blood. This explains why some lines of pit bulls are at the larger end of the standard, while others are quite "light" in build, and may weigh as little as 25 pounds. However, the Pit Bull is a bulldog in action and appearance. He is a gripping dog - not a terrier (which means "Earth dog" which pursues its quarry underground.” It's a hot topic with folks on both they do and don't have terrier blood. And I don't think you gave what professional or author you are quoting from about myths and things, buddy. If you don't mind giving his or her name, that would be good. It can be argued until folks are blue in the face on what all is and isn't in these dogs. But what is pretty obvious is that they are bulldogs in both action, appearance, and history. What goes into them makes little difference. It's about the dogs themselves and understanding what this working bulldog breed is all about. It is a dog of function and purpose. Not all bulldog breeds are the same and they don't all look like each other either. You got your working bulldogs like your American bulldogs and APBTs, and then you've got your show ring/designer bulldogs like your American bullies and English bulldogs. Also, since the APBT is a working/purpose dogs with the utmost importance to function and working ability, standards will vary from kennel clubs and lines. That's because this is a dog not designed for looks and above all else, it's ability and the quality of the dog is what is most valued. And whether it be the ADBA, UKC, AAPBA, or what have you, these dogs are able to serve the many functions and represent everything that true working/purpose bulldogs stand for. They are mighty fine dogs for things such as hog hunting, getting unruly livestock under control, being warring dogs, etc. They are not only mighty powerful, but also very agile and quick dogs. They are able to work and handle large game able to take a thrashing when need be while at the same time being able to out maneuver and stay out of serious trouble with the drive, endurance, and true grit to never give up until the job is done. That's the kind of dog that working, hunting, dogmen, and everyday folks who just want a good dog know, respect, and love.
***** Actually, bulldog like the APBT are gripping dogs. They are gripping dogs which serve, even to this day, as catch dogs and dogs people use on farms and ranches to get a hold of unruly and large game like bulls or hogs, which is one reason many call them bulldogs. Here's an example of two bulldogs (APBTs) working as gripping dogs: www.yourepeat.com/watch/?v=mJY4khIQGck These dogs weren't designed or meant for animals like sheep or goats or to be dogs to be left unsupervised with other animals, but they have been and can be used to herd and things that don't require them to use their bulldog grip which seems to be mighty fine and second to none: www.yourepeat.com/watch/?v=zBFun1ORd94 As we can see, no livestock were killed. These dogs were not designed to kill either. They are designed to grip and hold which they do very well (like bulldogs do). In all my years, I've never seen or heard of a bulldog (APBT) killing a bull or a hog (the animals they got their name from working, used hunt, and designed for holding on to). These animals are large, powerful, have thick hides, and are rough and tough. The function of APBTs in these hunts and on farms is mostly to get them under control so that the hunter or farmer can come in and work or stick (stab) the large beast safely. These dogs were never meant to or designed to kill. I suppose it's possible given enough time, pain, and blood loss by a hog or bull. But that would not be standard procedure or the norm these working men or hunters are practicing if they are expecting the dogs to kill it themselves. If you have a video of bulldogs killing a hog or a bull on their own, I'd like to see it. Not because that I would want to see it, but because that would be a first for me. A bulldog's bite is not severe or fatal when it is used for the animals and purposes it was designed for, which is why it is so uncommon that it might never happen. Also, bulldogs were definitely used as warring dogs against many different animals including other bulldogs. Dogmen commonly refer to their APBTs as bulldogs. This tells us something. I have to disagree with you about dogmen not wanting a dog that is good at maneuvering. The APBT's design is for agility and quickness. There design allows for good maneuverability and all-around movement. Where have you heard that dogmen don't want their bulldogs to be good at maneuvering in a fight? That is one part of being a good warring dog. Being able to maneuver and control the opponent to get them where they want them. But like I said, these dogs are not only designed for their agility. Their power, drive, high pain tolerance, stamina, and true grit are also what make these dogs what they are. Able to take as much as the give and able to get out of or stay out of too serious danger so that they can keep on giving. Maybe you should read some works by this author mentioned in this video we are one now by the name Richard Stratton whose book this individual seems to put in high regard.
***** We have no way of telling that. I do not see papers or anything on any of the dogs in those videos that tell us they are not APBTs. Gamebred can be argued I guess, but an APBT does not have to be gamebred or game tested to be APBTs. There are standards and things people look for in determining standard APBTs even without any kind of contact with other animals. These dogs serve their function and are displaying the qualities that people know, use, and respect our bulldogs for. And they did their job well. They all seem pretty standard to me. I don't see any reason not to call them APBTs. We know that APBTs have been used as gripping dogs. They are very common choices for these things and pictures, artwork, and accounts show dogs that mirror our bulldogs (APBTs) today being used as grippers and warring dogs. Bulldogs are dangerous to livestock if used improperly. They are used to control unruly livestock animals like bulls and hogs. As I've said, you probably couldn't find anything where APBTs have killed hogs or bulls (the animals they were either designed or commonly used to hunt and work with) because those animals are not only incredibly hard to kill, but also because when they are used, there are people to come in after the large game is subdued to pull the dogs off and safely work with or stick the beast. Like I showed of an APBT herding, they can herd, but they are not herding dogs by any means. They are grippers. A gripping dog's function is not to chase farm animals around and put them in one place. It's to charge straight in and hold on to an animal (usually a large, powerful, and potentially dangerous animal people need handled) and not to stop until the job is done, not backing down or shying away from the controversy no matter the punishment or level of difficulty. Some bulldogs will kill other animals or each other. Some don't. These dogs hold on, even in mid air. Things like spring pole show the dogs ability to jump up and hold on like what would be required when working bulls. And like I was saying about maneuvering and ability to move well the APBT possesses, it is quite clear it is something that people want and expect out of them, because part of a good warring dog is to be able to maneuver. It is not all about just punishing the other dog, and it is certainly not about killing. I am not sure where you got that from, but if you understood bulldogs and the things they are used for, killing is not the goal nor is it the norm.
@problems4xf complete gamedog was $35 crenshaw book was $100 original release price the others I just can't remember since it was so long ago. I only remember the price on the two I mentioned.
@@bullboykennels I Have Heard Dogs Of Velvet & Steel Is Another Good One.Yes You Are Right,These Books Are Hard To Come By.I Want To Try & Obtain That James Crenshaw Book.📚🐺💯
I paid $50 for that Ed (and Chris) Faron book 26 years ago when I was homeless working at a dial up internet tech support job.😂 I was happy. Broke but happy days.
@Saxeide the last copies he had were sold on ebay after the bust....i think there are only 2nd hand copies for sale now.....they come up about once a month on ebay.
You may find some of the books here, but they could be a bit high in prices. Since many of them are out of print. apbtbooks.com/product-category/collectors-books/
The crenshaw book is one I'm looking for and there's a copy on ebay but the seller says there's only 300 signed and numbered so what is the correct information about this book.
They were very limited I forget the exact number of them but it was really low, and they were all signed as well. It's been so many years I can't remember if you had the choice or not to have it signed. I know mines did come signed.
mines still looks new & my dog partner has literally no marks at all, he has kept his boxed up. So if you were to see it you would think it brand new. So it's very possible they kept it in a similar manner.
I could tell you about all those dog men.i should have wrote my own in 25 years I've seen 7 real bull dogs and all bunch of gr champions and champions I wasn't impress
+tyson tysonn Not true buddy. Most can definitely read and write. If someone cannot read or write, then they have no business trying to breed, raise, train, or keep bulldogs. These types of dogs take a lot of time, money, dedication, and intelligence to keep.
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Got a signed copy of The Complete Gamedog from Ed Faron when he came to Australia in 1999.Got the Stratton book.
very nice.
Would you sell the complete game dog if so how much
Richard Stratton. I've heard of that name before. Pretty good voice for these mighty working bulldogs many folks today know of as the American Pit bulldog. Another fine book to have is "The Working Pit Bull" by Diane Jessup. I truly respect bulldogs. Not only swell companions, but high drive working/purpose dogs that do their all to serve their masters. The APB is a dog that was designed and used as hunting dogs, butchers dogs, and as warring dogs in the bloodsport of bull and bear baiting. Dogs like APBs are what people would call gripping dogs: dogs that are able to hunt, control, or catch large game by getting a good grip and work to either throw the large beast off balance or hold it in place for the farmer, rancher, or hunter. Like dog expert, author, and breed historian Diane Jessup writes:
“First a hunter, then a butcher's dog, then a baiter, then a dog fighter, American Pit Bulls which display behavior typical of their heritage are gripping dogs; they come from a long, long genetic history which dictates they get a hold and HANG ON! This behavior saved their life during the years they were hunting boar, stag and bear, and also stood them in good stead when they moved on to working bulls, bears and other animals in baiting sports. This same behavior can work to make breaking up a fight quite easy and safe. The Pit Bull is a bulldog in action and appearance. He is a gripping dog - not a terrier (which means Earth dog which pursues its quarry underground). The English bulldog is a relatively recently developed animal designed strictly for the show ring. In fact, English bulldogs were not even created until several years AFTER bull baiting (the purpose for which it was supposed to have been bred) was banned and discontinued in the United Kingdom. So, it is impossible for the Pit Bull to have been developed from a breed younger than itself. In fact, the English bulldog is developed from the original working bulldog - the Pit Bull. Written Pit Bull pedigrees date into the late 1700's. The history of the Pit Bull far predates the time when bans on bull baiting caused blood sport fanciers to turn to fighting dog against dog."
Here is a video of two APBTs serving their purpose as gripping dogs:
www.yourepeat.com/watch/?v=mJY4khIQGck
Some people have actually made sport out of their original purposes such as bull baiting, bear baiting, and hog baiting or what some folks call adu bagong. Here is an example of one:
www.yourepeat.com/watch/?v=bCMp0vggywo
I know some folks may cringe at this, but it's history and part of what these bulldogs are all about. Don't reckon how I feel about fighting bulldogs against each other. I'd rather see a bulldog on a hog than another bulldog anyday, but from reading such books by Richard Stratton, I've begun to understand, tolerate, and even sort of respect what is being done there, since it is a sport which is designing and looking for everything that bulldogs stand for: drive, power, agility, quickness, stamina, people friendliness, and true grit. All these qualities make for the fine working dogs we know today.
***** Actually, buddy, I don't reckon I've been on every single bulldog video on TH-cam. There's a lot of them out there and I'm not a betting man, but I bet I haven't even scratched the surface of videos that have been made and never will, especially when there are videos made practically every day. And it is not misinformation. It's information on the breed by dog professionals, breed historians, and authors such as Diane Jessup and this Richard Stratton fellow, which is the author of the book featured in this video. Actually, Diane Jessup states that these dogs do have terrier blood as well as mastiff blood. She says that:
“There is some terrier blood in the modern Pit Bull. Terrier blood was added, just as mastiff blood. This explains why some lines of pit bulls are at the larger end of the standard, while others are quite "light" in build, and may weigh as little as 25 pounds. However, the Pit Bull is a bulldog in action and appearance. He is a gripping dog - not a terrier (which means "Earth dog" which pursues its quarry underground.”
It's a hot topic with folks on both they do and don't have terrier blood. And I don't think you gave what professional or author you are quoting from about myths and things, buddy. If you don't mind giving his or her name, that would be good. It can be argued until folks are blue in the face on what all is and isn't in these dogs. But what is pretty obvious is that they are bulldogs in both action, appearance, and history. What goes into them makes little difference. It's about the dogs themselves and understanding what this working bulldog breed is all about. It is a dog of function and purpose. Not all bulldog breeds are the same and they don't all look like each other either. You got your working bulldogs like your American bulldogs and APBTs, and then you've got your show ring/designer bulldogs like your American bullies and English bulldogs. Also, since the APBT is a working/purpose dogs with the utmost importance to function and working ability, standards will vary from kennel clubs and lines. That's because this is a dog not designed for looks and above all else, it's ability and the quality of the dog is what is most valued. And whether it be the ADBA, UKC, AAPBA, or what have you, these dogs are able to serve the many functions and represent everything that true working/purpose bulldogs stand for. They are mighty fine dogs for things such as hog hunting, getting unruly livestock under control, being warring dogs, etc. They are not only mighty powerful, but also very agile and quick dogs. They are able to work and handle large game able to take a thrashing when need be while at the same time being able to out maneuver and stay out of serious trouble with the drive, endurance, and true grit to never give up until the job is done. That's the kind of dog that working, hunting, dogmen, and everyday folks who just want a good dog know, respect, and love.
***** Actually, bulldog like the APBT are gripping dogs. They are gripping dogs which serve, even to this day, as catch dogs and dogs people use on farms and ranches to get a hold of unruly and large game like bulls or hogs, which is one reason many call them bulldogs. Here's an example of two bulldogs (APBTs) working as gripping dogs:
www.yourepeat.com/watch/?v=mJY4khIQGck
These dogs weren't designed or meant for animals like sheep or goats or to be dogs to be left unsupervised with other animals, but they have been and can be used to herd and things that don't require them to use their bulldog grip which seems to be mighty fine and second to none:
www.yourepeat.com/watch/?v=zBFun1ORd94
As we can see, no livestock were killed. These dogs were not designed to kill either. They are designed to grip and hold which they do very well (like bulldogs do). In all my years, I've never seen or heard of a bulldog (APBT) killing a bull or a hog (the animals they got their name from working, used hunt, and designed for holding on to). These animals are large, powerful, have thick hides, and are rough and tough. The function of APBTs in these hunts and on farms is mostly to get them under control so that the hunter or farmer can come in and work or stick (stab) the large beast safely. These dogs were never meant to or designed to kill. I suppose it's possible given enough time, pain, and blood loss by a hog or bull. But that would not be standard procedure or the norm these working men or hunters are practicing if they are expecting the dogs to kill it themselves. If you have a video of bulldogs killing a hog or a bull on their own, I'd like to see it. Not because that I would want to see it, but because that would be a first for me. A bulldog's bite is not severe or fatal when it is used for the animals and purposes it was designed for, which is why it is so uncommon that it might never happen. Also, bulldogs were definitely used as warring dogs against many different animals including other bulldogs. Dogmen commonly refer to their APBTs as bulldogs. This tells us something. I have to disagree with you about dogmen not wanting a dog that is good at maneuvering. The APBT's design is for agility and quickness. There design allows for good maneuverability and all-around movement. Where have you heard that dogmen don't want their bulldogs to be good at maneuvering in a fight? That is one part of being a good warring dog. Being able to maneuver and control the opponent to get them where they want them. But like I said, these dogs are not only designed for their agility. Their power, drive, high pain tolerance, stamina, and true grit are also what make these dogs what they are. Able to take as much as the give and able to get out of or stay out of too serious danger so that they can keep on giving. Maybe you should read some works by this author mentioned in this video we are one now by the name Richard Stratton whose book this individual seems to put in high regard.
***** We have no way of telling that. I do not see papers or anything on any of the dogs in those videos that tell us they are not APBTs. Gamebred can be argued I guess, but an APBT does not have to be gamebred or game tested to be APBTs. There are standards and things people look for in determining standard APBTs even without any kind of contact with other animals. These dogs serve their function and are displaying the qualities that people know, use, and respect our bulldogs for. And they did their job well. They all seem pretty standard to me. I don't see any reason not to call them APBTs. We know that APBTs have been used as gripping dogs. They are very common choices for these things and pictures, artwork, and accounts show dogs that mirror our bulldogs (APBTs) today being used as grippers and warring dogs. Bulldogs are dangerous to livestock if used improperly. They are used to control unruly livestock animals like bulls and hogs. As I've said, you probably couldn't find anything where APBTs have killed hogs or bulls (the animals they were either designed or commonly used to hunt and work with) because those animals are not only incredibly hard to kill, but also because when they are used, there are people to come in after the large game is subdued to pull the dogs off and safely work with or stick the beast. Like I showed of an APBT herding, they can herd, but they are not herding dogs by any means. They are grippers. A gripping dog's function is not to chase farm animals around and put them in one place. It's to charge straight in and hold on to an animal (usually a large, powerful, and potentially dangerous animal people need handled) and not to stop until the job is done, not backing down or shying away from the controversy no matter the punishment or level of difficulty. Some bulldogs will kill other animals or each other. Some don't. These dogs hold on, even in mid air. Things like spring pole show the dogs ability to jump up and hold on like what would be required when working bulls. And like I was saying about maneuvering and ability to move well the APBT possesses, it is quite clear it is something that people want and expect out of them, because part of a good warring dog is to be able to maneuver. It is not all about just punishing the other dog, and it is certainly not about killing. I am not sure where you got that from, but if you understood bulldogs and the things they are used for, killing is not the goal nor is it the norm.
That is a very true statement. Pit Bulls are actually one of the very best family dogs to have, but the media portrays a different picture of them.
@Durham Reality yes he did
@problems4xf complete gamedog was $35 crenshaw book was $100 original release price the others I just can't remember since it was so long ago. I only remember the price on the two I mentioned.
The books can't scratch.
Damn right!
Where can I get them from?
Most are out of print, so will be hard to come bye. You may find them from time to time maybe on ebay if anyone is willing to sell theirs off.
@@bullboykennels I Have Heard Dogs Of Velvet & Steel Is Another Good One.Yes You Are Right,These Books Are Hard To Come By.I Want To Try & Obtain That James Crenshaw Book.📚🐺💯
Thanks, there are so many but those are my fav's of all of them.
I remember wishing I could buy the complete game dog
Is there any book that would provide information on the different bloodlines such as sorrells, boyles, hammond, etc ?
Hi I would like to know if you still have does books
@@ariyaelcardenasgarcia1754 I still have my books
I paid $50 for that Ed (and Chris) Faron book 26 years ago when I was homeless working at a dial up internet tech support job.😂
I was happy. Broke but happy days.
Don wyne, is that you this is Carl the boxer
I'll keep that in mind. thanks.
Thanks for the great info. I have one of four of course the mass produced one. he he
We're can I order one of those books
huh, very cool, I personally do not know much about the Pittbull but here a lot on how they are misunderstood.
@Saxeide the last copies he had were sold on ebay after the bust....i think there are only 2nd hand copies for sale now.....they come up about once a month on ebay.
If your able to find it, it's not gonna be cheap at all cause those that do have are not willing to part with it.
where can i purchase these books
Where can i get The Complete Gamedog?
I am looking for reading about pitbull that's the only straffan book I have not got I am looking for the book bravehart
You may find some of the books here, but they could be a bit high in prices. Since many of them are out of print. apbtbooks.com/product-category/collectors-books/
The crenshaw book is one I'm looking for and there's a copy on ebay but the seller says there's only 300 signed and numbered so what is the correct information about this book.
They were very limited I forget the exact number of them but it was really low, and they were all signed as well. It's been so many years I can't remember if you had the choice or not to have it signed. I know mines did come signed.
Thanks, I just don"t want to spend big money on a reprint. Seems wierd to see a copy of such an old book listed as brand new.
mines still looks new & my dog partner has literally no marks at all, he has kept his boxed up. So if you were to see it you would think it brand new. So it's very possible they kept it in a similar manner.
Awesome, thanks for the input. Really appreciated! Think I'm going to just buy it, I really want a copy of this book.
mr collins. the place i've found most helpful is apbtbooks.com. its a candy store.
Dude I learn mma from Bob Stevens. His dogs isn`t some untamed dog. They was great pedigree (yes pedigree).
Birdman of Alcatraz. Is Richard Stratton
would love these books but there next to impossible to get now esp strattons first two books and diane's
Well I wish you the best of luck on finding them. Hopefully they will popup sometime for ya. I know they can be tricky to get your hands on.
james crenshaw best dogman in my openiun man i like his dogs
I could tell you about all those dog men.i should have wrote my own in 25 years I've seen 7 real bull dogs and all bunch of gr champions and champions I wasn't impress
Malik Benoit oh yeah then we need to talk bro. Foreal i just dropped some Sorrells/Skull/gr.ch.spike.
U got dogs nw
@@erikmurray3661 like that sorrels shit run it myself
Wannabes
Ur the gr ch keyboard warrior 20xw dammmmmm
if you ever have any of those on sale let me know I will immediatly get them off your hands.
it's a very great book.
all I learned from this video is that the books are thick, have pictures and are great.
30cjs your pretty dumb then huh
I never seen this guy in Mexico lmao
*hear, wow i can spell
if any one got those books for sale hit me up
most can not read or write
+tyson tysonn Not true buddy. Most can definitely read and write. If someone cannot read or write, then they have no business trying to breed, raise, train, or keep bulldogs. These types of dogs take a lot of time, money, dedication, and intelligence to keep.