Lived at Chesterfield 1969-76 and used to catch the No 38 bus from Chesterfield Market place station. The old building was still in place but I didn't recognise it as a station. The massive Horns bridge over Derby Road was in place but not the viaduct.
Thanks for that. My Mum and Dad traveled on that line. I remember walking over the bridge at Bolsover and once saw a train but that's all I can remember. The Bolsover tunnel did for it. Very dangerous. They could't stop the water and some drivers refused to drive through it.
A great thing to do and amazing how many times you pass or cross the line when driving and do not realise it. At the end Marketplace Station became a carpet warehouse. I remember them blowing up Horns Bridge viaduct. It took them several attempts over the years. Just a brick pillar next to the midland railway at the end of the old Hasland Road is all that remains of it. I think they had to leave it there as it supports the midland mainline embankment.
This railway was before my time but, as kids, we'd play in what we called "The Canyon", which was the rock-walled, partially filled cut that lead to the Bolsover Tunnel western portal. All we could see of it was the tops of the huge concrete caps that encased the old portal. A few years ago I tried to go back for nostalgia's sake and was chased off by a stroppy farmer who now apparently owns the land.
Many Thanks for uploading the video. This is the one journey that I would love to have made, a fascinating route with interesting stories throughout its troubled life.
Wish this line was open today from Langwith Junction to Chesterfield must be much quicker than the 1 hour it takes on the bus and if they want a infrastructure project this would be a good one instead of HS2
Agreed, but the tunnels between Scarcliffe and Carr Vale, and the Duckmanton Tunnel would cost a fortune to renovate and maintain. The Scarcliffe to Carr Vale tunnel alone would cost one million pounds a year to maintain, that is after it had been renovated (2624 yards long). It is known that this tunnel (that was backfilled along its length with colliery slag) suffered greatly from water ingress (200,000 gallons a day), significant subsidence, and has multiple collapses inside. Plus there was a viaduct at Carr Vale that was demolished and would have to be reconstituted. It would be a particularly expensive exercise to bring back the Langwith Junction to Chesterfield railway line, and the potential returns would be too small to justify it unfortunately. But we can live in hope that one day it might happen.
It's amazing how as you go along from up above you can still pick out the route even when you get to fields. Would this route have included Bolsover viaduct I'm wondering? Great video BTW.
@@jch2211 It is like a lot of things in the UK. We had it, and then we chucked it away without a thought. That was the whole attitude of the 1970's. Clear the landscape of anything the Victorians had left us in the name of modernism and greed. Examples? The railway lines closed. Victoria Station, Nottingham. The Great Central mainline. Chesterfield Market Station. The majority of the routes of The Great Central Railway. Just thrown away like so much garbage, with the question what is the worth of it, what can I get for the land, the scrap, the rubble. And this was supposed to have been in the best interests of the British people?! Railway track beds reduced to hiking paths. Is this some kind of joke? Ah, but act in haste, repent at your leisure. Even now there are those who have awakened to realise the damage that was done. But it is too late. Too late, too expensive, and too problematic to put that back to deal with the expensive issues that that infrastructure could have resolved. Such fools, such idiots. Unlike the builders of the railways, no foresight, no great ideals for the future, only greed and stupidity. They gave nothing back, and took all the money their pockets could accommodate at the expense of those who came before and after them.
only a fraction of that line's visible & even less walkable shame there are a number of tunnels now sadly buried that in years will emerge as sinkholes cos they never got backfilled
Agreed. We had a railway system that could get you and your goods anywhere, and I mean anywhere, in the country. But the vandals, namely Marples and Beeching, had other ideas about decimating the railways, promoting the road hauler and constructors, and lining their own pockets with money. And the British people? Take a look. Congested roads, the cost of running a car now an exorbitant expense, and a limited railway system. This was their legacy. May they rot in hell.
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Lived at Chesterfield 1969-76 and used to catch the No 38 bus from Chesterfield Market place station. The old building was still in place but I didn't recognise it as a station. The massive Horns bridge over Derby Road was in place but not the viaduct.
Hornes Bridge syill there and used all day daily. The viaduct was an over passing nuvva matter.
Thanks for that. My Mum and Dad traveled on that line. I remember walking over the bridge at Bolsover and once saw a train but that's all I can remember. The Bolsover tunnel did for it. Very dangerous. They could't stop the water and some drivers refused to drive through it.
Thanks John, I hope you enjoyed the journey as much as I did making it.
Thank you Marc. Very interesting video.
What a wonderful project. Thank you for sharing this. I remember the station pub in Arkwright town when it was still open.
A great thing to do and amazing how many times you pass or cross the line when driving and do not realise it. At the end Marketplace Station became a carpet warehouse. I remember them blowing up Horns Bridge viaduct. It took them several attempts over the years. Just a brick pillar next to the midland railway at the end of the old Hasland Road is all that remains of it. I think they had to leave it there as it supports the midland mainline embankment.
This railway was before my time but, as kids, we'd play in what we called "The Canyon", which was the rock-walled, partially filled cut that lead to the Bolsover Tunnel western portal. All we could see of it was the tops of the huge concrete caps that encased the old portal. A few years ago I tried to go back for nostalgia's sake and was chased off by a stroppy farmer who now apparently owns the land.
wow just wow
Many Thanks for uploading the video. This is the one journey that I would love to have made, a fascinating route with interesting stories throughout its troubled life.
Many thanks JANGLEPOP1.
Fantastic loved every minute, thank you.
Fantastic
Wish this line was open today from Langwith Junction to Chesterfield must be much quicker than the 1 hour it takes on the bus and if they want a infrastructure project this would be a good one instead of HS2
Agreed, but the tunnels between Scarcliffe and Carr Vale, and the Duckmanton Tunnel would cost a fortune to renovate and maintain. The Scarcliffe to Carr Vale tunnel alone would cost one million pounds a year to maintain, that is after it had been renovated (2624 yards long). It is known that this tunnel (that was backfilled along its length with colliery slag) suffered greatly from water ingress (200,000 gallons a day), significant subsidence, and has multiple collapses inside. Plus there was a viaduct at Carr Vale that was demolished and would have to be reconstituted. It would be a particularly expensive exercise to bring back the Langwith Junction to Chesterfield railway line, and the potential returns would be too small to justify it unfortunately. But we can live in hope that one day it might happen.
Fascinating!
It's amazing how as you go along from up above you can still pick out the route even when you get to fields.
Would this route have included Bolsover viaduct I'm wondering?
Great video BTW.
Yes, it included the Bolsover viaduct in Carr Vale.
@@MrMoggyman Can find pictures of the viaduct, well only a couple of the demolition!
@@jch2211 It is like a lot of things in the UK. We had it, and then we chucked it away without a thought. That was the whole attitude of the 1970's. Clear the landscape of anything the Victorians had left us in the name of modernism and greed. Examples? The railway lines closed. Victoria Station, Nottingham. The Great Central mainline. Chesterfield Market Station. The majority of the routes of The Great Central Railway. Just thrown away like so much garbage, with the question what is the worth of it, what can I get for the land, the scrap, the rubble. And this was supposed to have been in the best interests of the British people?! Railway track beds reduced to hiking paths. Is this some kind of joke? Ah, but act in haste, repent at your leisure. Even now there are those who have awakened to realise the damage that was done. But it is too late. Too late, too expensive, and too problematic to put that back to deal with the expensive issues that that infrastructure could have resolved. Such fools, such idiots. Unlike the builders of the railways, no foresight, no great ideals for the future, only greed and stupidity. They gave nothing back, and took all the money their pockets could accommodate at the expense of those who came before and after them.
@@MrMoggyman I agree whole heartedly and echo your thoughts. The older I get the more I resent the modern world and what it stands for!
Thank you, interested in what the junction was at 4:07 TFS.
only a fraction of that line's visible & even less walkable shame there are a number of tunnels now sadly buried that in years will emerge as sinkholes cos they never got backfilled
Still accessible, under Chesterfield.
Late to this:..... How theyve efft it up. With nil respect to our past.
Oh aye, n bye bye Station Hotel.
Agreed. We had a railway system that could get you and your goods anywhere, and I mean anywhere, in the country. But the vandals, namely Marples and Beeching, had other ideas about decimating the railways, promoting the road hauler and constructors, and lining their own pockets with money. And the British people? Take a look. Congested roads, the cost of running a car now an exorbitant expense, and a limited railway system. This was their legacy. May they rot in hell.
What a wonderful project. Thank you for sharing this. I remember the station pub in Arkwright town when it was still open.