I'm so glad you bought this vehicle which definitely wasn't another project and have not made any project videos about it. Looking forward to the next not-a-project video too.
Sometimes I feel like thanking Jaguar Land Rover for making the Land/Range Rover, so that we would later be blessed with content from Geoffrey Croker. Every time you post something, I am completely hooked.
Thanks Geoff, finally got my D1 running smooth and starting 1st pop! Your shows are a great resource to the Land Rover community. Keep up the great work and the humour mate😊 btw it was the capacitor and ignition module that turned out to be kaput!
Really good to watch someone who has an understanding of ignition systems. The capacitor is hugely overlooked as a potential for problems. Had multiple people tell me it was purely to stop radio interference. Turns out that’s why my vehicle was frying ignition modules in less than 1000kms.
Yeah. I’ve seen that said all over the internet as well. It’s probably one of those things that some guy reckoned must be right and the next guy reckoned it sounded about right…
I know we joke about the reliability of Land Rover but my 1994 200tdi was one of the most reliable vehicles I ever had she didn’t need much to get her going on cold mornings, she was regularly serviced between 8000-10,000 miles. She went for nine years in my ownership and the only thing that stopped her working twice was a busted thermostat and a sheer pin in the hi lo selector box otherwise in 9 years she kept going strong. Loved her so,d her as she wasn’t getting used as much
I have just this minute realised why it's called a "Discovery" - after you buy one is you Discover everything that's wrong with it. Another top video for us. cheers I learned a lot.
It’s interesting to see how these rover v8s are put together, I have a 62 Buick special that is equipped with the 3.5 liter aluminum v8 that became the rover engine after the design was sold in the mid 60s. There’s a remarkable amount of design features that remained unchanged, it’s amazing how long these motors were in service all over the world
A less experienced Croker vs Rover follower might have thought the positive, upbeat, music meant this was going to be a happy ending. You didn’t fool me! I knew the little red man was going to show up at anytime.
Another exemplary video Croker. You set a terrific example for all youtubers by FOLLOWING THE FACTORY WORKSHOP MANUAL. If you do this you will generally end up with a good result. I am sorry to learn of your coolant loss issue after all the work you have put in to the vehicle. Most of that crap in a bottle ends up blocking the radiator. Working on motorcars is brutal, good intentions count for NOTHING. Expect to see a 25% improvement in fuel economy by having a functioning vacuum advance unit, as opposed to a malfunctioning one, alone. Thank you for posting your fine content.
“Hey, have you seen that TH-cam series with that guy who’s restoring the Land Rover.” “Which one?” “The one with the guy from New Zealand” “No, which Land Rover. He’s got a couple of them” “Oh yeah, I forgot about that first one. I wonder what happened to it? 🤨🤨
The green one is the project (back tub was visible somewhere in this clip). The blue V8 Disco with the becoming two-tone left side is the "definitely-not-a-project" daily beater he does not have to fiddle around with twice a week for the first two -years- decades of ownership. 😆😆
Lol, a lot of people making fun about the lack of Series Land Rover vids, I have to say, I am thoroughly enjoying this series. Honestly I could watch Geoffrey making a vid about absolutely anything and it would be a pleasure to watch.
Take it from an electronics engineer. The Capacitor you chose is probably a film type cap (polypropylene or polystyrene). They're the absolute best for this application. Moreover, they're exactly what the original cap was in that can, but with 30-50 years of progress in material science. Also, the capacitor in this application is to form sort of an LC resonant circuit in the primary of the Iggie Coil, which, in turn, massively increases the output voltage. Cheers!
I’d really appreciate some advice on practical upgrades for capacitors. Modern reproductions of older (50s) capacitors seem to be totally useless. Is there a simple practical upgrade a non-electronics-expert can use?
It's getting there! :D Definitely worth getting that bit fixed, yes you could have got a BritPart, but then, it would be a BritPart, with all it's 'quality control'.
If the block is cracked, you don't have to necessarily junk it. You could get the cylinder sleeved. They have been doing that for almost a century. It's a stock engine. It would easily accept it. I love your videos.
Not hard to do a head gasket(s) on a Rover V8. Might be worthwhile doing the camshaft as well when you're at that stage of disassembly. Look forward to the next video and fingers crossed it's nothing super sinister like a slipped liner or cracked block. Regards from N.Ireland.
Longtime subscriber & watcher of these videos. I don't own a Land Rover, and I don't work on cars ; but I love watching your content. Keep up the great work!
Man I love every single video you make but this one is a masterpiece! Awesome work on that engine! You are very passionate and patient to give that older vehicle a second life! Good on you ! Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
I hope I will live to see your Land Rover Series 3 finished. ;) I wasn't sure about your "not a project" Discovery at first, but I really like these videos. Great work done by a great man.
Sir you are a master engineer, for sure , your videos are inspirational, or inspiring at least ! … I don’t know what you do for a living , but with your skill and personality, you should earn 500k a year ! Thank you so much , you really brighten my days with your work … I can only say sorry that , in return , England will pump you in the cricket! Best wishes to you and yours .. Matt 🇬🇧
Geoffrey, just when I was wondering what I was going to watch on TH-cam, "Poof" your video posted! Thank you. Great job going over the Discovery, excellent diagnostics and it was fun to watch, in fact it will be watched several more times just because. Thanks for the post, stay safe & Cheers!
Great vid. I recognised hillcrest road hill at the end of the video. Many years ago I drove up and down that piece of road. Beautiful area of the country.
Another Croker video at last, I needed that. That’s the best, most informative video on practical vehicle electronics I’ve seen. I used to be scared of anything connected with electric string, but now I’ve seen what’s in a condenser and how to go about checking out an ECU I’m effing terrified! No, seriously, really useful stuff. Perhaps now I can sort out the duff condenser on my 1952 Landie. Great stuff Geoff, as always. Thank you. Will, Scotland.
I have learned so much from you already these past years! Where did you gain all this knowledge, youtube or your job maybe? Anyway, thanks for making these videos, we really appreciate them and look forward to every video coming out
Just a detail that you might find important - the 14CUX has two electrolytic caps inside of it (and you can tune them, by replacing the ROM!). Anyway, the caps might be worth keeping an eye on, after you're done dealing with the engine.
24:07 You took the wrong side of the road and your steering wheel is in the wrong side of the car! 😂 Also, 24:32 and 24:41 Those road marks!! LOL!!! Thanks for sharing!
Excellent content as always! If you ever decide to tackle the head gaskets, you might need to get everything chemical flushed to remove the remnants of that stop-leak stuff. However, 'while you're in there' you could replace those injectors with modern equivalents with better spray pattern. Hopefully will help a little with the (dreadful) economy? As another comment said, check/replace the camshaft too - if oil changes was not a priority with previous owners, you may have a couple of round bits instead of lumpy bits. If the engine is gutless down low and wakes up when you get up to and beyond 3.5 - 4k RPMs then that's a sign of camshaft wear.
Great job on this one!!! Very good work. I couldn't even nitpick on this one if I wanted to.... Back in the day, the issue you described, runs & dies... I would have done plugs wires rotor cap... If that didn't work, try the coil, move on to other stuff, but 92% of the time, plugs wires rotor cap would do it....
Hi geoff, persevere with the drinking coolant thing! took me months to get to the bottom of my 200tdi's various overheating issues, a ridiculous amount of antifreeze, time and money, but we got there. Best of luck with sorting the big girl!
Good morning Mr Corker 😊 love your sense of humour while you’re fixing this class British RR that would have gone to the graveyard 🪦 by now lol 😂 Keep the good work up matey cheers Stevie 🏴
I love the Aussie cricket reference. As an Australian citizen, I feel it is my civic duty to issue an apology on behalf of the Australian cricket team for the numerous diplomatic incidents they have caused over history.
2nd that, which is why I always back the other team. Australia cricket - lying cheaters who cheat. I mean banning them from the game for 1 generation would be a good start.
I as an Aussie apologise for nothing. Our woke captain, our IPL senior players are typical of a team with no Fight for the game other than the IPL dollars. Welcome Aussie cricket to the next generation of Aussie Rugby non competitiveness 😂
Ls swap it! I thought I had a head gasket after eating coolant with an 04 disco 2 with a 4.6 and 2hp24. Still ate coolant after the head gasket. Pressurized the coolant system and found coolant pooling in cylinder 5. Sliding sleeve and pinholes in block allowing coolant flow into the cylinder. LS swapped using alternative conversions using an 05 L33 chevy and it's been good for 40k miles. About to change the trans fluid again.
Oh, heavens. I hope you will resurrect the engine in some form if the block is destined for the great beyond. My cars tended to show the sort of careful maintenance from former owners that you document, so I never trusted a car without an engine I had rebuilt myself. Granted, I'm going back close to fifty years now so that may no longer be a practical financial proposition for most of us..
Good job hope the block is ok ! in the UK intermotor parts were available to the trade through motor factors - it should have been possible to fit the correct one of those when it was bought....the crimps...with the plastic sleeve I have fitted 1000's ..with a ratchet crimp tool ...the plastic sleeve will clamp the insulation just fine....
I have the later 4 litre with the 'THOR' Bosch EFi system in a car that was a bit of a wreck but after doing a top end and coolant hose overhaul it runs so well. There is something about the sound of that Buick / Rover V8. And you certainly got your electronic sparks working well. Not that this was in any way a project ....
Great video, Geoff, thanks! Makes me wonder what a modern EFI update would do for this engine, with injectors with a better spray pattern, sequential fuel injection, wide-band O2 sensor, etc. Looking forward to seeing the head off.
This is the “TRCA Temperature Resistance Corrections Authority”. Please state your complaints in the replies below!
I misspoke!
Ah! 38:48 is what this is about.
I'm so glad you bought this vehicle which definitely wasn't another project and have not made any project videos about it. Looking forward to the next not-a-project video too.
Are we gonna talk about the 300ft dual tire burnout tracks leading off the road? LOL? The Shire is heating up!!!
my thoughts exactly
Not just stuck landy brakes lines?
They are impressive!
:D
Croker and a shitbox Landy is a match made in heaven and some of the best entertainment on the YT. Gold Star.
Sometimes I feel like thanking Jaguar Land Rover for making the Land/Range Rover, so that we would later be blessed with content from Geoffrey Croker. Every time you post something, I am completely hooked.
Snatching victory from defeat, are we?
One day we might see the Land Rover that started this channel....
Yes, WHERE IS IT??
We did see it! In the background in the garage.
Around the same time Project Binky gets finished...
@@phuzz00 LOL So true!!
Socialists never finish anything
Thanks Geoff, finally got my D1 running smooth and starting 1st pop! Your shows are a great resource to the Land Rover community. Keep up the great work and the humour mate😊 btw it was the capacitor and ignition module that turned out to be kaput!
Really good to watch someone who has an understanding of ignition systems. The capacitor is hugely overlooked as a potential for problems. Had multiple people tell me it was purely to stop radio interference. Turns out that’s why my vehicle was frying ignition modules in less than 1000kms.
Yeah. I’ve seen that said all over the internet as well. It’s probably one of those things that some guy reckoned must be right and the next guy reckoned it sounded about right…
@ it’s bad when it’s automotive “professionals” telling you though…
I know we joke about the reliability of Land Rover but my 1994 200tdi was one of the most reliable vehicles I ever had she didn’t need much to get her going on cold mornings, she was regularly serviced between 8000-10,000 miles. She went for nine years in my ownership and the only thing that stopped her working twice was a busted thermostat and a sheer pin in the hi lo selector box otherwise in 9 years she kept going strong. Loved her so,d her as she wasn’t getting used as much
I have just this minute realised why it's called a "Discovery" - after you buy one is you Discover everything that's wrong with it. Another top video for us. cheers I learned a lot.
That green Lucas box leaking smoke was a great touch. :D
I like that the injector filter removal too is basically just a weird wine corkscrew!
It’s interesting to see how these rover v8s are put together, I have a 62 Buick special that is equipped with the 3.5 liter aluminum v8 that became the rover engine after the design was sold in the mid 60s. There’s a remarkable amount of design features that remained unchanged, it’s amazing how long these motors were in service all over the world
A less experienced Croker vs Rover follower might have thought the positive, upbeat, music meant this was going to be a happy ending. You didn’t fool me! I knew the little red man was going to show up at anytime.
Another exemplary video Croker.
You set a terrific example for all youtubers by FOLLOWING THE FACTORY WORKSHOP MANUAL.
If you do this you will generally end up with a good result.
I am sorry to learn of your coolant loss issue after all the work you have put in to the vehicle.
Most of that crap in a bottle ends up blocking the radiator.
Working on motorcars is brutal, good intentions count for NOTHING.
Expect to see a 25% improvement in fuel economy by having a functioning vacuum advance unit, as opposed to a malfunctioning one, alone.
Thank you for posting your fine content.
“Hey, have you seen that TH-cam series with that guy who’s restoring the Land Rover.”
“Which one?”
“The one with the guy from New Zealand”
“No, which Land Rover. He’s got a couple of them”
“Oh yeah, I forgot about that first one. I wonder what happened to it?
🤨🤨
I think some of it was lurking.
The green one is the project (back tub was visible somewhere in this clip). The blue V8 Disco with the becoming two-tone left side is the "definitely-not-a-project" daily beater he does not have to fiddle around with twice a week for the first two -years- decades of ownership. 😆😆
As someone who will probably never own a landscaper, these videos bring me so much happiness. Thanks for sharing this with the rest of us
Lol, a lot of people making fun about the lack of Series Land Rover vids, I have to say, I am thoroughly enjoying this series. Honestly I could watch Geoffrey making a vid about absolutely anything and it would be a pleasure to watch.
Croker & Landy: keeping Lucas and Britpart in business since 2022 😂
Take it from an electronics engineer. The Capacitor you chose is probably a film type cap (polypropylene or polystyrene). They're the absolute best for this application. Moreover, they're exactly what the original cap was in that can, but with 30-50 years of progress in material science. Also, the capacitor in this application is to form sort of an LC resonant circuit in the primary of the Iggie Coil, which, in turn, massively increases the output voltage.
Cheers!
I’d really appreciate some advice on practical upgrades for capacitors. Modern reproductions of older (50s) capacitors seem to be totally useless. Is there a simple practical upgrade a non-electronics-expert can use?
@ just use MKP capacitors of the same capacitance and higher voltage rating
Those tyre marks on the road made me chuckle
They're just down the road from the "Submarine Races" viewing area.
Has he not been given a Netflix special yet!?!?!!?!? what more does Netflix want to see?
Great video. Your enthusiasm to keep these dreadful cars on the road is truly commendable. And you seem to be such a sensible chap too.
This is the best way I’ve spent a lunch break in ages.
What a very interesting and informative video, you are a natural storyteller. Always the highlight of my day seeing a new video from you.
I see Croker, I click...
It's getting there! :D Definitely worth getting that bit fixed, yes you could have got a BritPart, but then, it would be a BritPart, with all it's 'quality control'.
If the block is cracked, you don't have to necessarily junk it. You could get the cylinder sleeved. They have been doing that for almost a century. It's a stock engine. It would easily accept it. I love your videos.
Not even waiting to watch before I comment... totally stoked to see a new video.
Always so exciting to see a new video up from you! High fuel consumption is just an excuse to get an extended fuel tank
Even on a td5 it's the easiest way to get 1000km out of a tank
I guess bed time can wait
Not hard to do a head gasket(s) on a Rover V8. Might be worthwhile doing the camshaft as well when you're at that stage of disassembly. Look forward to the next video and fingers crossed it's nothing super sinister like a slipped liner or cracked block. Regards from N.Ireland.
Having just brought an Efi kit for my 3.5 to install on my v8 converted series 3, this video is a god send.
Always a bright part of my day when one of your vids drops!
Joseph Lucas did not invent the darkness. He invented the sudden unexpected darkness!
In the middle of a storm on the High Moor which is always deserted.
while Edison invented the lightbulb and Bell the telephone, Joseph Lucas invented the short circuit ;)
But he was expecting not expect something so that doesnt count
The orignal Prince of Darkness
@@BoyRacerS3 Lucas headlight switches have 3 settings: smoke, smolder and burn
Croker was in the lead for all 4 quarters of the game only to be overtaken by a late score by Rover, so at the end of the day or game it was one all.
Longtime subscriber & watcher of these videos. I don't own a Land Rover, and I don't work on cars ; but I love watching your content. Keep up the great work!
Man I love every single video you make but this one is a masterpiece! Awesome work on that engine! You are very passionate and patient to give that older vehicle a second life! Good on you ! Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
The Test Drive: What a pretty area. Wow !!
I hope I will live to see your Land Rover Series 3 finished. ;) I wasn't sure about your "not a project" Discovery at first, but I really like these videos. Great work done by a great man.
i needed all this snark this evening.
I bet you're glad you bought this one as a reliable daily
The seagull needed more juice, that was the problem!
Always good to see another video!
Been watching since you bogged a whole drill press :D
🥰😂
I like it a lot how you explain how things work. 👍🏽 (and show your mistakes by the way, makes me feel a bit more human myself)
Sir you are a master engineer, for sure , your videos are inspirational, or inspiring at least ! … I don’t know what you do for a living , but with your skill and personality, you should earn 500k a year !
Thank you so much , you really brighten my days with your work … I can only say sorry that , in return , England will pump you in the cricket! Best wishes to you and yours .. Matt 🇬🇧
We’ll see. Day 2 starts in 15 minutes. I predict that NZ will be back in, batting England out of the game before the day is out 🤣
Don’t mention the sailing, or rugby. Just keep to the Rovers and I’ll keep watching
So how did the batting go !
😭
@@CROKERvsRover your just warming up … like that disco of yours !
Geoffrey, just when I was wondering what I was going to watch on TH-cam, "Poof" your video posted! Thank you. Great job going over the Discovery, excellent diagnostics and it was fun to watch, in fact it will be watched several more times just because. Thanks for the post, stay safe & Cheers!
A fellow viewer from PG!
@@geographyinaction7814 How about the snow...lol
24:07 Someone has been having a heck of a lot of fun on that roadway.
38:45 "More hot is less resistance, cooler more resistance." That's backwards to 'Known Science'. 🙂
Aaaahhhhhhhhhh… too late to fix it now! Hopefully no one else notices 🤦♂️😅
@@CROKERvsRover
"RESISTANCE IS FUTILE." 42
Great vid. I recognised hillcrest road hill at the end of the video. Many years ago I drove up and down that piece of road. Beautiful area of the country.
Classic Mr Crocker! The world needs more of this.
Wonderful, best thing anyone could ever wish for, Mr Croker!
I love your editing style and choice of music.👍🏻
Another good one to watch, thanks. I use boiled linseed on the black plastic of my vehicles. Works really well, cheap and cleans up well.
Yes! I was just checking for an update yesterday
That was a lot of work thanks for sharing. Charles
Nice long video without ad BS. Keep em coming!
Another Croker video at last, I needed that. That’s the best, most informative video on practical vehicle electronics I’ve seen. I used to be scared of anything connected with electric string, but now I’ve seen what’s in a condenser and how to go about checking out an ECU I’m effing terrified! No, seriously, really useful stuff. Perhaps now I can sort out the duff condenser on my 1952 Landie. Great stuff Geoff, as always. Thank you. Will, Scotland.
I have learned so much from you already these past years! Where did you gain all this knowledge, youtube or your job maybe? Anyway, thanks for making these videos, we really appreciate them and look forward to every video coming out
never saw such a great tooth-dismatling-tool on the passenger side of a vehicle before! what a marvel of british engineering🤣
Always worth the wait for a Mr Croker video 👍🏻
Love how methodical you are
Holts blockweld, a bit of a faff to put in, but has held on two hopeless cases, both turbo diesels, for me, over several years. Worth a try.
Geoff, I enjoy your videos. Please keep making them.
Just a detail that you might find important - the 14CUX has two electrolytic caps inside of it (and you can tune them, by replacing the ROM!). Anyway, the caps might be worth keeping an eye on, after you're done dealing with the engine.
The little blood splashes when changing the fuel filter, 😂😂did it for me
Joy! A Croker video!
24:07 You took the wrong side of the road and your steering wheel is in the wrong side of the car! 😂 Also, 24:32 and 24:41 Those road marks!! LOL!!! Thanks for sharing!
The blood splatter effect when removing the fuel filter had me cracking up. 😂
Excellent content as always! If you ever decide to tackle the head gaskets, you might need to get everything chemical flushed to remove the remnants of that stop-leak stuff. However, 'while you're in there' you could replace those injectors with modern equivalents with better spray pattern. Hopefully will help a little with the (dreadful) economy? As another comment said, check/replace the camshaft too - if oil changes was not a priority with previous owners, you may have a couple of round bits instead of lumpy bits. If the engine is gutless down low and wakes up when you get up to and beyond 3.5 - 4k RPMs then that's a sign of camshaft wear.
Great job on this one!!!
Very good work. I couldn't even nitpick on this one if I wanted to....
Back in the day, the issue you described, runs & dies... I would have done plugs wires rotor cap... If that didn't work, try the coil, move on to other stuff, but 92% of the time, plugs wires rotor cap would do it....
Hi geoff, persevere with the drinking coolant thing! took me months to get to the bottom of my 200tdi's various overheating issues, a ridiculous amount of antifreeze, time and money, but we got there. Best of luck with sorting the big girl!
Good morning Mr Corker 😊 love your sense of humour while you’re fixing this class British RR that would have gone to the graveyard 🪦 by now lol 😂 Keep the good work up matey cheers Stevie 🏴
I love the Aussie cricket reference. As an Australian citizen, I feel it is my civic duty to issue an apology on behalf of the Australian cricket team for the numerous diplomatic incidents they have caused over history.
2nd that, which is why I always back the other team. Australia cricket - lying cheaters who cheat. I mean banning them from the game for 1 generation would be a good start.
I as an Aussie apologise for nothing. Our woke captain, our IPL senior players are typical of a team with no Fight for the game other than the IPL dollars. Welcome Aussie cricket to the next generation of Aussie Rugby non competitiveness 😂
If Lucas made weapons, there would be no war.
If Lucas made automatic rifles, the three-position firing selector would be labelled "Off," "Misfire," and "Jam."
Can wait for the special release of the "Not-a-project" Discovery series with bonus Ms. Crooker commentary...
Ls swap it! I thought I had a head gasket after eating coolant with an 04 disco 2 with a 4.6 and 2hp24. Still ate coolant after the head gasket. Pressurized the coolant system and found coolant pooling in cylinder 5. Sliding sleeve and pinholes in block allowing coolant flow into the cylinder. LS swapped using alternative conversions using an 05 L33 chevy and it's been good for 40k miles. About to change the trans fluid again.
This episode made the first hour of waiting on my flight a pleasure 😊👍. Always great content coming from your channel
Please clean up and repait the rusty, manky bracket on top of the radiator :-D
Oh, heavens. I hope you will resurrect the engine in some form if the block is destined for the great beyond. My cars tended to show the sort of careful maintenance from former owners that you document, so I never trusted a car without an engine I had rebuilt myself. Granted, I'm going back close to fifty years now so that may no longer be a practical financial proposition for most of us..
Cannot get enough of your videos man absolutely the best thing on TH-cam
Great vid and I hope that was comedy blood around the fuel filer. LR were so gracious in its placement.
What a beautiful road for a test drive. What's with all the lurid skid-marks though?!
That’s me in the bimmer
Good job hope the block is ok !
in the UK intermotor parts were available to the trade through motor factors - it should have been possible to fit the correct one of those when it was bought....the crimps...with the plastic sleeve I have fitted 1000's ..with a ratchet crimp tool ...the plastic sleeve will clamp the insulation just fine....
I’ll call that a happy ending….close enough!
I have the later 4 litre with the 'THOR' Bosch EFi system in a car that was a bit of a wreck but after doing a top end and coolant hose overhaul it runs so well. There is something about the sound of that Buick / Rover V8. And you certainly got your electronic sparks working well.
Not that this was in any way a project ....
Loved that non-inductive timing light.
loved the video cant wait for the next one , and waiting to see the series 3 come to life
Keep up the good work Geoff, looking forward to the next one.
Damn. I hope you don't have a cracked block. :( Your pain is my entertainment though. LOL. Seriously, I hope it's not that bad. Good luck friend!
Awesome vid as usual. Appreciate the longer content.
Any update on the actual project car? Waiting on parts?
Excellently thorough video! Fingers crossed a gasket and quick skim suffices.
24:34 Drift baby drift... into the woods ;D
I like those velocity stacks,well done as usual.
Premium automotive content, thanks sir!
Great video, Geoff, thanks! Makes me wonder what a modern EFI update would do for this engine, with injectors with a better spray pattern, sequential fuel injection, wide-band O2 sensor, etc. Looking forward to seeing the head off.
Love the videos
If the block is cracked, just keep adding water till she throws a rod.
Excellent video many thanks for taking the considerable time to make it.
How can I be the first to show my appreciation for Sonia the Seagull’s short squeaky appearances? Nice.