The Best Decks Couldn't Cut It! | cEDH Top 16 Breakdown

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  • Today I'm taking a look at LDXP event from CommandFest Tacoma, an in-person cEDH tournament that took place this past weekend. This event easily has the most unique meta breakdown of any I've ever covered, with no Tymna/Kraum, no Sisay, but plenty of the controversial new bird Nadu. I go over the meta of the event, then break down each of the deck lists that made top 16, and try to make sense of the format post MH3. The decks featured are Korvold, Nadu, Jenson Carthalion, Thras/Vial, Stella Lee, Magda, Kinnan, Erinis/Street Urchin, Najeela, Krark/Sakashima, Kenrith, and Atraxa.
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    Chapters
    0:00 - Intro
    1:20 - Meta Breakdown
    3:05 - Thras/Vial
    5:29 - Jenson Carthalion
    8:19 - Erinis/Street Urchin
    12:54 - Nadu
    17:09 - Atraxa
    19:38 - Stella Lee
    22:31 - Nadu 2
    23:58 - Magda
    26:12 - Kenrith
    27:57 - Najeela
    33:04 - Kinnan
    34:57 - Elsha
    38:35 - Nadu 3
    41:19 - Korvold
    45:51 - Krark/Sakashima
    48:18 - Kenrith 2
    51:02 - Wrap-up
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  • @LemorasCards
    @LemorasCards  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Is Nadu Summer real? What do you think of a top 16 without Tnk, Rog/Si, and Sisay? Let me know down below!

    • @yvesmathis5651
      @yvesmathis5651 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Sorry but i cannot take any event seriously who is not proxy friendly - the data is always scewed.
      I mean how many list er fully optimised? Like 10% or what? You kinda cant say that it is representable of the meta.
      That beeing said - nadu summer isnt real - like urza summer wasnt real.
      In switzerland nadu tended to be shut down damn hard. One counter, one removal and it is gone, its not like kinnan who can bounce back into game. I think its about to stay as godo also stays but it wont be nearly as powerful as other things.
      But we will see if with the next swiss tournament changes my view next sunday but i doubt.

    • @user-sl7wn8kk9k
      @user-sl7wn8kk9k 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      one thing that is true to the Nadu deck is we got phrases like "shuko shuffle" "uncle functus blesses us with the funk naus" and more OG phrases like "do the thing"

    • @105Strike105
      @105Strike105 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thats the best thing to happen to the format. All the greedy decks need to be put in there place and can just go in a straight lime anymore

    • @rickybobby2633-s1r
      @rickybobby2633-s1r 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Been playing magic for a couple of years.. getting into cedh and I was wondering how do you find events to go to? What is the best way to find events?

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rickybobby2633-s1r topdeck.gg

  • @ameliaburton5313
    @ameliaburton5313 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Just to add some context, top 4 of this tournament agreed to a split. Kenrith wanted points for topdeckgg reasons. Krarkashima ended up winning the bragging rights game

    • @user-cc3bw6ix3h
      @user-cc3bw6ix3h 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Hi I’m the krark player xd. Ty Amelia. And yes a turn 3 win in the finals. Turn 4 in top 16. A turn 2 win in the Swiss. Was a successful tourney and when I have more time I’ll be after the top deck points myself.

  • @AltBananas
    @AltBananas 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Erinis player here. Deck does insane work and would’ve been able to lock for top 4 if not for a misplay. That deck is the truth 100%.
    It holds nadu down too so it’s very well positioned

  • @BlindCarl
    @BlindCarl 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Hey I was the jenson/lurrus player! I think you end up casting jenson a lot more than people would expect. the filter is fairly relevant and it synergizes really well with j-will and bring to light. I probably wouldn't play j-will if jenson couldn't filter the red mana.
    I don't think i will be switching to ezio, while ezio is easier to cast jenson's filter ability is actually fairly relevant for supporting certain cards and I don't think he is that much more difficult to cast. ezio's abilities just feel entirely irrelevant

  • @stephenalsup6300
    @stephenalsup6300 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Thanks for the love on the najeela deck. Its been fun working on the list with, funny enough, the player who took first

  • @kylechamberlain9052
    @kylechamberlain9052 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great review. Was my first real tournament and was the Stella player. Definitely gave me some stuff to consider swapping out. Overall was a great experience and looking forward to doing more in the future. Honestly didn’t know people reviewed tournament decks until my friends shared this video with me, but this was awesome to watch. Keep up the great work.

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you! Yep, I do a whole bunch of these, I look forward to seeing you in more top 16s!

  • @jasonwarren516
    @jasonwarren516 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Atraxa player here, apprieciate the criticism/breakdown. Having picked up the deck just recently, trying out things like Hullbreaker and Trophy are just me seeing what works and what doesn't. Also Nadu Summer is very real lmao

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad you enjoyed it! Always love to see some experimenting.

    • @CthulhuOGreatOne
      @CthulhuOGreatOne 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've waffled on hullbreaker, as you stated the infinite colorless isn't the most useful. I've gotten it and kitten out then had infinite flickers to win with a bowmaster after exiling food chain/oracle with dem con to stop a win.

  • @AlternativelyBananas
    @AlternativelyBananas 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Excited for your cowtown coverage~

  • @andyontaneda996
    @andyontaneda996 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    anvil dust kenrith list is amazing i play the same deck with a couple meta swaps and i love it glad to see a great pilot take the win at this tourny

  • @DanielCotillo
    @DanielCotillo 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    No Trymma/Kraum or Rog/Sy making it to the top? Now that is an interesting tournament result to analyze.

  • @adamcomeau3731
    @adamcomeau3731 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You do such a great job I really like the format of your videos and you release frequent enough to stay interesting. Keep up the good work. 😊

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you! I love to hear it.

  • @Joking101
    @Joking101 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I was the first Nadu deck you reviewed, lost to another Nadu that was in Seat 1 in the semis with a cracked hand.
    I also won the SeaEDH 6 event the previous weekend in Seattle on Nadu.
    I also made a pretty lengthy video talking about my win with Nadu on my channel. If you ever want to chat about the deck let me know. I got lots of thoughts.

  • @stefanentzeroth9027
    @stefanentzeroth9027 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Erinis is insane, I borrowed it from a buddy to play as a meme, and man the deck did great, only game I lost was top pod, because the sisay player kingmade the slicer..

  • @marcosaguilar9337
    @marcosaguilar9337 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Goddamn that’s insane to be honest, I do LOVE to see a top 16 like this, not having tons of the top commanders and have more variety in it!

  • @markparker2012
    @markparker2012 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Excited to try Korvold with Soultrader and Chatterfang and cradle this weekend. Also maybe song of dryads to answer the nadu and meathook massacre. Get em w six from the yard.

  • @Cardtrader21
    @Cardtrader21 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I so badly want to see a Derevi list go nuts with some of these new cards that have been added

  • @ry7hym
    @ry7hym 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i loved the five color lurrus list

  • @pippofelipe6901
    @pippofelipe6901 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Summertime sadnaus. Let the bird shine, its better than see a partner goodstuff generic decklist 😅

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Summertime Sadnaus by Lana Del Rog is a banger

  • @josephsheldon9361
    @josephsheldon9361 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love the breakdowns of each deck and your content as a whole. I’m getting into the cedh space now after playing modern and legacy since 2013, have a few tournaments next month nearby I want to gear up to take on what deck would you recommend I do like the look of rogsi and blue farm from the content I’ve consumed and have a good understanding of a lot of the cards/combos just unsure of pace of the game and windows and those nuances plan to jam a lot of mtgo once I select a deck in prep.

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you! I think if you feel comfortable with the combos and just want to pickup a deck that's powerful those are both great options. I think Rog/Si is my favorite list post mh3 though blue farm will be a little more forgiving on some of those windows. If you want to jam fast Rog is your best bet, Blue Farm will give you a bit more time through the game to develop and reward good small decision making over the course of a game.

    • @josephsheldon9361
      @josephsheldon9361 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LemorasCards happen to have a link to a good updated rogsi list for mh3?

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@josephsheldon9361 www.moxfield.com/decks/Rmu3C6QenkC2iRe-uN1BSA

    • @josephsheldon9361
      @josephsheldon9361 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@LemorasCards I appreciate this greatly man, keep up the great work and may your channel grow and massive successes come your way. I’ll be sure to post updates after my events in July, hopefully I can hit a top 16 and give u a reason to talk about Roger some more lol.

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @josephsheldon9361 hell yeah I hope so! Thank you!

  • @KiwinaiOfficial
    @KiwinaiOfficial 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's a good thing you and I both know that River Hoopoe is officially the best card. 👀

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, someone has been really inspiring to my work lately 👀

  • @Kizzet373
    @Kizzet373 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Erinis + Street Urchin be nastyyyyy

  • @Holden_P
    @Holden_P 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Heads up: when you were reviewing krakashima, the Ral only needs to cast 6 spells (winning the 6th) not 8. He starts with 2 loyalty. Honestly makes a big difference to ulting immediately

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Oh yeah sure if I said that I misspoke I just mean you wanna make sure you get to flip into 8. He'd be pretty poor as a walker that could flip with 1 loyalty lol.

    • @Holden_P
      @Holden_P 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@LemorasCards yeah for sure. I’ve been playing him as a cEDH commander recently and it’s surprising how powerful he is

  • @nealcrabtree3647
    @nealcrabtree3647 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm here to praise Magda ❤

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It was supp to be the Summer of Gaddock! Wow alot of Nadu. Kinda cool tho. ❤❤❤

  • @dekina1198
    @dekina1198 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Noteably interaction with unctus and Seeker of skybreak/Aphetto Alchemist: tap and untap them, loot though your deck

  • @jaysuede2627
    @jaysuede2627 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It makes sense that Tymna/Kraum can't prey on Nadu. It's the first engine in a long time that doesn't feed the Farm. Imagine if Magda was UR, then we could compare.

  • @joshholmes1372
    @joshholmes1372 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Non proxy event feels like it supports a nadu type build? Since it runs a ton of jank

  • @YukichiSuu
    @YukichiSuu 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A Hikaru Utada reference in 2024?!!! I feel old. XD

  • @Lildayquill
    @Lildayquill 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fun fact, the last large PNW tournament also had no tymna/kraums. Blue farm really isnt the meta up here somehow

  • @Rizso1
    @Rizso1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    the korvold looks crazy

  • @THEChallisMiles
    @THEChallisMiles 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This was my first ever cEDH tournament and I wanted so badly to make the top 16. I didn't make it unfortunately, but I still got 20th so not the worst?

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Still a great job! That's awesome for your first event!

    • @THEChallisMiles
      @THEChallisMiles 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@LemorasCards Thank you sir! I was crossing my fingers so I could show up on all the TH-cam cEDH channels I love to watch lol
      Thanks for your great content!

  • @NybarMTG
    @NybarMTG 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Surprised nobody covered the topdeck titans event with all the nadu talk going around. 3 nadu's in the top 4 alone.

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Just was awkward timing with multiple big IRL events the same weekend.

  • @joshholmes1372
    @joshholmes1372 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Trinket mage is an amazing tutor for shuko. Tutoring for a creature tutor to snag trinket mage is a roundabout way to get shuko.

  • @LaryLaser
    @LaryLaser 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Side note.
    Springheart Nantuko does not require to pay anything to get the bug.

  • @tenknq
    @tenknq 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    LFG korvold daddy

  • @105Strike105
    @105Strike105 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nadu is such a good shake up of the current boring midrange good stuff meta. And now forcing people to actually play removal artifact/ enchantment/ creature is a good thing. Glad boring blue farm is taking a hit from this. See that deck to much and getting stale

  • @spinningtrain9091
    @spinningtrain9091 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    krark will consume all

  • @dave3269
    @dave3269 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    [[Verrak, Warped Sengir]] is coming
    [[Apple of Eden, Isu Relic]] [[Warren Soultrader]] [[Gravecrawler]] [[Kambal, Profiteering Mayor]] [[Reassembling Skeleton]] [[Yawgmoth, Thran Physician]]

  • @ADTR4ever
    @ADTR4ever 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just a heads up. Elsha has prowess... brainstorm away guys!!! OBM wont be able to kill it just off the draws.

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well you can probably stay ahead of it just be mindful in the OBM draw engine meta game.

  • @_Valediction
    @_Valediction 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    this tourny really shows that the alot of tnk & rogsi players dont own real duals or L.E.Ds lol

  • @kahlilmartinez
    @kahlilmartinez 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m the clown here 😂

  • @fernandob2275
    @fernandob2275 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hullbreacher, never forget.

  • @MageSkeleton
    @MageSkeleton 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i saw this coming, Nadu is going to dominate commander until it's banned. Nothing can compete with what it does. If someone sits down to play Nadu and the three other opponents aren't immediately looking to "arch enemy" that player they win. i'd hate to see a table where there's more than one Nadu.
    if i don't play Nadu, it will only be because my LGS punishes players for playing "Storm" or similar time consuming decks.

  • @matthewbell4897
    @matthewbell4897 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    bro leave the lights dim, the camera picks up way more color in your face so you aren't as pale lol. great breakdown!

  • @sayntfuu
    @sayntfuu 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    No proxies? That hurts the field I think. The results should get an *.

    • @entertainmentinc9735
      @entertainmentinc9735 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      There’s a chuck of tournaments that require real cards. You just gotta buy them

    • @AtlasAdvice254
      @AtlasAdvice254 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Your wallet doesn’t make you a better player

    • @entertainmentinc9735
      @entertainmentinc9735 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AtlasAdvice254 And you being proxy friendly doesn’t make you automatically the correct side of the argument.

    • @sayntfuu
      @sayntfuu 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@entertainmentinc9735 Oh I thought we were playing against the other persons skill not their disposable income. Well count me out of this scene then.

    • @AtlasAdvice254
      @AtlasAdvice254 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@entertainmentinc9735 you being proxy opposed doesn’t make you correct either. The entire intention of commander was to be a social format that included the most possible people. If you wanna keep pumping money into hazbro’s wallet then by all means, go ahead.

  • @NickNicolay-ih4zi
    @NickNicolay-ih4zi 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    How in the world do you play Magda and not play roaming throne?! That hurts my heart.

    • @NickNicolay-ih4zi
      @NickNicolay-ih4zi 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Also… WE 👏🏻LOVE👏🏻FLARE👏🏻

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Just be built different!

    • @NickNicolay-ih4zi
      @NickNicolay-ih4zi 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@LemorasCards built different and crazy talk are 2 totally different things! 🤣

    • @UkFlyFisher
      @UkFlyFisher 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Madness, as a long-time Magda player the card completely changes the maths for everything and lets you win out of nowhere. I can only assume they accidentally turned up without a real copy so had to cut it on the fly.

    • @robdroptables
      @robdroptables 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I think I saw this was not proxy friendly. It's possible the pilot was restricted by their physical card selection which makes their T16 all the more impressive. Good job!

  • @rodrigocosta2365
    @rodrigocosta2365 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Nadu ban now

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I'm on it!

    • @rodrigocosta2365
      @rodrigocosta2365 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@LemorasCards 😂

    • @thecitizen6860
      @thecitizen6860 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      No. I like nadu. Yes its strong. But damn any strong commander comes along and you guys wanna ban it immediately. The fact it could change the meta makes you throw a fit. The meta is so damn boring without these new powerful cards

    • @BlazinTre
      @BlazinTre 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why adapt when you can BAN 🤬​@@thecitizen6860

    • @rodrigocosta2365
      @rodrigocosta2365 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nadu could be banned because there isn't a way to build him casually ​@@thecitizen6860

  • @badley91
    @badley91 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Take these lists with a grain of salt, it was a no proxies allowed so lists could be skewed