I would say it was ethical to find the one coon but definitely not shooting one hoping he would fall out because of a lack of patience. That is not a good example of how to be a wildlife advocate. I told my boys to never do something like that because it is unethical.
The 17 hmr is not comparative to a 22lr because the 17hmr is a necked down 22 magnum cartridge. So the comparison is between those two, the 17 mach 2 is a necked down 22lr, that would be a comparison
The reason the 17 hmr drifts less is because that 17 caliber bullet has a higher ballistics coefficient making it fly better in the wind and hold its energy at longer distances
Look that one up. Actually 17hmr hornady vmax had a bc of 0.095 whole a 40 grain 22 lr has a bc of .120 (cci standard velocity). 17 hmr does have twice the speed though so a lot less time to be influenced by the environment.
@@TheCodyOthe biggest issue with the .22lr for me is accuracy out past 50 yards , when dealing with small game you need to be pretty close and that’s what makes it tough . I’ve been looking at higher end riffles in a .22lr but this video has me rethinking that .
@@frankammirati3385 yah I can see how the 17hmr is more forgiving and they tend to be accurate rifles even at the more affordable end. (Based on my limited experience)
@@frankammirati3385 What kind of small game are we talking? You might want to look at some high end pcp rifles, they hold accuracy past 50 extremely well from my experience
@@frankammirati3385my dad taught me on 22lr lever rifle. I finally convinced him to put a scope on it, after that we would only shoot at sticks about the size of your finger at 100 yards because any bigger or closer was "cheating". 22lr can be accurate. My 22mag will consistently hit a soda can at 150 yards.
If I could get 17hmr for the same price I would be interested! ThTs the biggest draw for 22 is it’s just so cheap to go out and have a blast! Great video and super informative!
Was thinking that too. If they cost the same I’d totally pick up 17hmr. He makes a great case for it. Until then my Ruger 10/22 will continue its heavy workload !
22mag is a great round I just prefer 17 a bit more cause of the range and how accurate. I had 22mag before but sold it and it's 1 of few I regret but I will buy another soon.
I figured you were just small game hunting crows and didn’t realize you were gonna cook em up, much respect on that. I believe in the if your gonna shoot it your gonna eat it law 👍🏼
For killing the 17HMR is far more decisive than 22LR. Much greater energy dump. Also safer in populated areas or around livestock because less chance of ricochet. Enjoyed the vid, thanks for sharing!
the .22lr is popular because its cheap you can buy a box of 525 for less than $40 a box of 50 shots of .17 hmr is $20 the 17 hmr may out perform the .22lr for hunting but it wont replace it
I've been thinking about getting a 17hmr for a while now. From all my research, I'm pretty certain it will be much better for hunting over the 22lr or 22wmr. I am torn between 17hmr and 17wsm. Thing that draws me towards the 17hmr is ammo availability.
17 wsm sucks bro. It’s bad accuracy is well known. I own 4 or 5 hmr’s, a wsm and a 17 hornet. Wsm accuracy is trash and 17 hornet costs as much as my 22-250. The only bad thing about an hmr is it isn’t really good for catch and cook. This video does not do justice to the damage this round does to a squirrel or rabbit under 100 yards. Imagine using a .338 lapua with ballistic tipped hollow points on a coyote. 😂
@@kevinc.3579 👀 thanks! Stick to pest control only. Gotcha, I have plenty of pests to use an hmr on so you're comment leans me even further towards the hmr
It may be better, but the cost is the biggest factor, plus millions of riffles in .22 are not going away. I love my .17 HMR but cut my teeth on the .22 when I was knee high to a grasshopper. I really would like to get some crow decoy like you had. Where did you pick them up?
I don't think anything will replace 22lr. 17hmr is better but 22 is so cheap and accurate in a good rifle. Me and my buddy should golf balls at 200 300yrd with cz 455 and 457. Shooting the 22lr long distance teaches you a lot about wind and hold over that can be used with larger calibers. 22lr can also be shot long distances sub sonic with a suppressor. Making you position virtually undetectable in a survival situation.
I was going to suggest you try hunting with a high quality air rifle... 3 weeks ago you did a video using an FX air rifle, go figure. If you practice with the air rifle and learn how to use the scope properly. (dial for yardage) Your ability to shoot will make the .22LR the caliber of choice. (lower cost, more skill required, better for maintaining your skills) Nice to see you eat what you kill. Thanks for the video.
I still prefer the 22LR for shooting rabbits in the UK the 17 hmr is too noisy. In the UK we tend to use suds in the 22LR and at night I can shoot out to 120yards which is plenty
didnt catch what ammo he was using but the hornady vmax 17gr is a pain in the ass, goes bad in my safe after ~6 months. if it doesnt misfire it will smoke like hell and crack the neck of the brass. then again brand new stuff is what my cheap ruger american likes, cant get good groups with CCI or Remington.
I mean this in the nicest way possible, can you try to stop wounding so many animals? Of all the hunting channels I've seen you seem to wound the animals you hunt the most. Maybe just sight your gun in better, take more time to make confident shots, and wait for better shot placement oppertunities. I like hunting but it just sucks to see an animal get wounded to to lack of effort on the hunters part. I like the channel just some feedback.
Thanks, I do put in a lot of effort to take animals out humanely as possible. I hate seeing animals get wounded too, but it is just part of hunting. It happens to all hunters but you wont see it on their videos because they wont show it.
you're comparing the 17 Hornandy Magnum rimfire, to the 22lr ?!? The only true comparison of the 17hmr (Hornandy Mangum rimfire} is the 22WMR (Winchester Magmum rimfire},...
The 17 hmr is a fantastic round, but it moves so fast that it punches a clean whole in the paper. I lost by 2 points in a reminder fire tournament because of the size of the projectile and the speed.
I personally haven't shot any of the super hot .22 lr ammo, but I've read that they aren't all that accurate. I believe the benefit of .17 HMR is the super speed (2,500 fps) AND great accuracy.
I love my 22lr Savage rifle, whether it's plinking or hunting small game. But sometimes the 22lr is not powerful and accurate enough when it comes to ranges above 100 yards. This one time I shot a coyote at 80 yards in the ribs. It ran for almost 150 yards in the open field before it started thrashing and then dropped and it made me feel bad cause it didn't go down quickly enough. I have also shot them with 308 and 45-70 but that's overkill. So I'm thinking of getting a more powerful rimfire. Either a 17hmr or 17 wsm, with the 17 wsm being 50% more powerful and flat shooting than a 17 hmr.
Squirrel hunting I’ve owned and hunted with both. My choice is the quite 22 LR subsonic hp. 17hmr waaay to loud and destructive. 22 mag kills coyotes and bobcats better than the 17hmr in my experience. Lot better penetration with the 22mag.
Man, why do you eat crows? It is disgusting, just like eating mice or rats. Do you have a problem with food in the USA? In Europe, we treat them as pests.
Love my .17's love shooting smaller than a dime at 50 yds. So for squirrel i take both .22 and .17hmr if i"m shooting close range I still need the .22 the .17 will make a too much a mess out of the squirrel at close range.
17 hmr is a nice round very effective round for hunting small and medium game. Handy rifle to have when your out checking your traps. I trap beaver and otter and we sometimes run into a group of otters. They're hardy animals we used to carry 223 but ammo is expensive after a while and depending in what kind of rifle you carry could be heavy.
Thanks for this really good video. Did the firing pin leave a deep impression on the rim of those two consecutive misfires? In other words do you think it was the rifle or the ammo causing the problem?
I finally got my first kill with 17hmr last Monday Squirrel and got lucky I could barely see him but I nailed him. Love my Savage 93r17 I got other guns but right now 17hmr takes my small game hunting gun.
There are several videos about how to skin a squirrel without getting hair on the meat. Check them out. I'll never skin another squirrel like I used to again.
This video is legendary
i didnt know you watched him
Hey Kendall! You watch him?
Man Kendall don’t this remind you of your younger self
Thanks KG!
kendall gray wsp
Underrated channel don’t back down dude no matter how big the problem is never give up or we will be sad
You make some great videos. I like your ethics. Getting the axe out to retreive that racoon was commendable.
I would say it was ethical to find the one coon but definitely not shooting one hoping he would fall out because of a lack of patience. That is not a good example of how to be a wildlife advocate. I told my boys to never do something like that because it is unethical.
22 mag all day
The 17 hmr is not comparative to a 22lr because the 17hmr is a necked down 22 magnum cartridge. So the comparison is between those two, the 17 mach 2 is a necked down 22lr, that would be a comparison
I agree on this
The reason the 17 hmr drifts less is because that 17 caliber bullet has a higher ballistics coefficient making it fly better in the wind and hold its energy at longer distances
Look that one up. Actually 17hmr hornady vmax had a bc of 0.095 whole a 40 grain 22 lr has a bc of .120 (cci standard velocity). 17 hmr does have twice the speed though so a lot less time to be influenced by the environment.
@@TheCodyOthe biggest issue with the .22lr for me is accuracy out past 50 yards , when dealing with small game you need to be pretty close and that’s what makes it tough . I’ve been looking at higher end riffles in a .22lr but this video has me rethinking that .
@@frankammirati3385 yah I can see how the 17hmr is more forgiving and they tend to be accurate rifles even at the more affordable end. (Based on my limited experience)
@@frankammirati3385 What kind of small game are we talking? You might want to look at some high end pcp rifles, they hold accuracy past 50 extremely well from my experience
@@frankammirati3385my dad taught me on 22lr lever rifle. I finally convinced him to put a scope on it, after that we would only shoot at sticks about the size of your finger at 100 yards because any bigger or closer was "cheating".
22lr can be accurate.
My 22mag will consistently hit a soda can at 150 yards.
If I could get 17hmr for the same price I would be interested! ThTs the biggest draw for 22 is it’s just so cheap to go out and have a blast! Great video and super informative!
Was thinking that too. If they cost the same I’d totally pick up 17hmr. He makes a great case for it. Until then my Ruger 10/22 will continue its heavy workload !
I love 22 lr and I mean love it but 17 hmr is not bad if using just for hunting. 50 rounds for 16-20 bucks
And if you wanna split the difference the 17 mach 2 is a great cartridge 8- 12 dollars for box of 50 17 grain at 2100 fps !
@@mikes8915if only you could find a 17hm2 rifle lol
Where I live it's $15-17 bucks than about 60 for 200rd I got .22lr next 22mag I had one years ago but sold it sadly. But I want another next buy
Collaboration with kg
I agree that would be sweet
I ended up getting the CZ457 Varmint in 22WMR. Its an awesome gun, and 22mag is way underrated.
.22 magnum is my favorite caliber.. highly underestimated
22mag is a great round I just prefer 17 a bit more cause of the range and how accurate. I had 22mag before but sold it and it's 1 of few I regret but I will buy another soon.
Yep very underrated
I figured you were just small game hunting crows and didn’t realize you were gonna cook em up, much respect on that. I believe in the if your gonna shoot it your gonna eat it law 👍🏼
Thanks for coming back really enjoy you videos. Don’t leave us.
Every day is an amazing day when blocketh posts
Well .17 hmr is cool if you're going for head shots, in my experience body shots just ruin rabbits/ squirrels.
Yes they do
For killing the 17HMR is far more decisive than 22LR. Much greater energy dump. Also safer in populated areas or around livestock because less chance of ricochet. Enjoyed the vid, thanks for sharing!
the .22lr is popular because its cheap you can buy a box of 525 for less than $40 a box of 50 shots of .17 hmr is $20
the 17 hmr may out perform the .22lr for hunting but it wont replace it
The 22 mag is going to give the 17 hmr a run for its money but costs less.
This video is legendary
Bro this guys videos are so entertaining congrats on 47k I've been watching since 2k.
That kittyyyyy would've gotten a 20 grain deposit in his head!! lol
Awful human
@@B3N1Oheadas5 lmao go find your safe space fairy!
I got a Savage .17 hmr is an absolute tack driver at 75-85 yards. Amazing gun.
I've been thinking about getting a 17hmr for a while now. From all my research, I'm pretty certain it will be much better for hunting over the 22lr or 22wmr. I am torn between 17hmr and 17wsm. Thing that draws me towards the 17hmr is ammo availability.
17 wsm sucks bro. It’s bad accuracy is well known. I own 4 or 5 hmr’s, a wsm and a 17 hornet. Wsm accuracy is trash and 17 hornet costs as much as my 22-250.
The only bad thing about an hmr is it isn’t really good for catch and cook. This video does not do justice to the damage this round does to a squirrel or rabbit under 100 yards. Imagine using a .338 lapua with ballistic tipped hollow points on a coyote. 😂
@@kevinc.3579 👀 thanks! Stick to pest control only. Gotcha, I have plenty of pests to use an hmr on so you're comment leans me even further towards the hmr
Wow!!!!! Love the 940 Osborne for the unboxing!!!!!!! Big fan!!!!
You went Mitch McConnell for a second
CCI ammo has always given me bad luck on rimfire. I use Hornady and Winchester and have really good luck 95% of the time or more
What scope do you have mounted ??
Blake ! -- I was cheering the whole time you had a bead that B & W ----- Kitties Love .17 HMR's ! -- PULL THE FREEZIN' TRIGGER, MAN !
Bro I have waiting so long for a video
Love the squirrel eating scene with the hair! Rugged dude for sure.
i shot a squirrel with my 17 in the organs and it killed him right away
did that with my 25 cal pcp air rifle and got the same results
What scope do you use
I love my 17hmr. Great for longer shots, got a crow at 230 and multiple black birds at 150
The way the squirrels scream😂😂
Love the content! Never gets old!
It may be better, but the cost is the biggest factor, plus millions of riffles in .22 are not going away. I love my .17 HMR but cut my teeth on the .22 when I was knee high to a grasshopper. I really would like to get some crow decoy like you had. Where did you pick them up?
I dropped a coyote @ 250 in its tracks with my 17wsm
It must be nice living in the country.. I live in an urban jungle.. You could get arrested for having a homemade slingshot where I live..
Blocketh upload is for real the highlight of my day
I know from last season but still pretty good
I bought 17hmr CZ 457 varmint because of you and Kendall
We need to collab Kg with Blocketh
Man now I want to play RDR2 and go varmint Rifle hunting 😅
Should compare it to the 22 mag as that the base case for the 17hmr, it’s apples and oranges you are comparing.🧐🧐🧐
I don't think anything will replace 22lr. 17hmr is better but 22 is so cheap and accurate in a good rifle. Me and my buddy should golf balls at 200 300yrd with cz 455 and 457. Shooting the 22lr long distance teaches you a lot about wind and hold over that can be used with larger calibers. 22lr can also be shot long distances sub sonic with a suppressor. Making you position virtually undetectable in a survival situation.
Good points
22 mag for the win
you make awesome videos❤
I was going to suggest you try hunting with a high quality air rifle... 3 weeks ago you did a video using an FX air rifle, go figure.
If you practice with the air rifle and learn how to use the scope properly. (dial for yardage) Your ability to shoot will make the .22LR the caliber of choice. (lower cost, more skill required, better for maintaining your skills) Nice to see you eat what you kill. Thanks for the video.
Was getting worried about you it’s been a minute love you Blake.
The HMR has its place but will never replace the 22!
Mathew 4:19 come with me he told them, and I will make you fishers of men.” Can u PLEASE make this the quote of the day or pin it 😁
We’re did u go
Great video. Had grilled squirrel last week. My only way to cook em now.
Hek ya spot on,only 22 i shoot is CCI QL for target and yard work
Will the .17 HMR make it through that hair? Yeah I’m jealous. Good content very relatable to plinksters.
I’m waiting on the dove hunting videos lol
love the 17hmr videos i got a 457 AT-ONE in 22 that i swapped out the barrel for the 17hmr barrel
I still prefer the 22LR for shooting rabbits in the UK the 17 hmr is too noisy. In the UK we tend to use suds in the 22LR and at night I can shoot out to 120yards which is plenty
Still watching your videos Sir... how i wish i could experience hunting...
The miss fires could be 2 reasons. 1. Ammo 2. Firing pin and plate
(Most likely 2)
didnt catch what ammo he was using but the hornady vmax 17gr is a pain in the ass, goes bad in my safe after ~6 months. if it doesnt misfire it will smoke like hell and crack the neck of the brass. then again brand new stuff is what my cheap ruger american likes, cant get good groups with CCI or Remington.
Can you make airgun videos next
The HMR in the 20 grain is a mean little round. Major difference in penetration compared to the 17 grain.
This is awesome blocketh outdoors
I mean this in the nicest way possible, can you try to stop wounding so many animals? Of all the hunting channels I've seen you seem to wound the animals you hunt the most. Maybe just sight your gun in better, take more time to make confident shots, and wait for better shot placement oppertunities. I like hunting but it just sucks to see an animal get wounded to to lack of effort on the hunters part. I like the channel just some feedback.
Thanks, I do put in a lot of effort to take animals out humanely as possible. I hate seeing animals get wounded too, but it is just part of hunting. It happens to all hunters but you wont see it on their videos because they wont show it.
you're comparing the 17 Hornandy Magnum rimfire, to the 22lr ?!?
The only true comparison of the 17hmr (Hornandy Mangum rimfire} is the 22WMR (Winchester
Magmum rimfire},...
Kitttyyy kiTy
22LR had better penetration at typical rimfire hunting ranges. Past 100 yards I have no idea.. would be fun to see
The 17 hmr is a fantastic round, but it moves so fast that it punches a clean whole in the paper. I lost by 2 points in a reminder fire tournament because of the size of the projectile and the speed.
I remember in my first rimfire tournament I ended up with the same score but I had one more bullseye and won, came second in the province!
I have a savage HMR and a sweet 17 scope. If you use a range finder then you can use it to adjust the scope.
Dove season is here can’t wait to see of that content
I love this vid
Greetings,
i have a Question: whats the Name of the Shooting Pod?
Thanks.
That squirrel said no when u killed it lol
Idk some 22 ammo is capable of 1600+ fps
I personally haven't shot any of the super hot .22 lr ammo, but I've read that they aren't all that accurate. I believe the benefit of .17 HMR is the super speed (2,500 fps) AND great accuracy.
That gun is awesome ❤😂😂😂
I love my 22lr Savage rifle, whether it's plinking or hunting small game. But sometimes the 22lr is not powerful and accurate enough when it comes to ranges above 100 yards. This one time I shot a coyote at 80 yards in the ribs. It ran for almost 150 yards in the open field before it started thrashing and then dropped and it made me feel bad cause it didn't go down quickly enough. I have also shot them with 308 and 45-70 but that's overkill. So I'm thinking of getting a more powerful rimfire. Either a 17hmr or 17 wsm, with the 17 wsm being 50% more powerful and flat shooting than a 17 hmr.
The misfire is cause by the flat firing pin on the bolt. You can fix it by using a small pair of 45 degree chisel to fix it. 4:00
556 is also 22 cal
Great vid Blake thanks
Well at least you ate crow .😂
Squirrel hunting I’ve owned and hunted with both. My choice is the quite 22 LR subsonic hp. 17hmr waaay to loud and destructive. 22 mag kills coyotes and bobcats better than the 17hmr in my experience. Lot better penetration with the 22mag.
Man, why do you eat crows?
It is disgusting, just like eating mice or rats.
Do you have a problem with food in the USA?
In Europe, we treat them as pests.
I had a .17 HMR it was fun greasing ground squirrels with it. Huge step up from .22 lr
"Had"? That means you don't have it anymore, so what did you replace it with?
@@JW-bw8nj PCP air rifles :)
Nice! For my next rifle, I'm on the fence between a CZ 457 in .17 HMR and a comparably priced PCP rifle.
@@JW-bw8nj both very different guns for sure.
great video
Love my .17's love shooting smaller than a dime at 50 yds. So for squirrel i take both .22 and .17hmr if i"m shooting close range I still need the .22 the .17 will make a too much a mess out of the squirrel at close range.
Why not do the 22h next and hot groundhogs to see if it is better than 22lr
Every tournament shooter moved back to the 22 mag
Great hunts ! CZ makea a good rifle 👍
I think I’m a little late to the party but what brand and model of optic do you have on there?
what do people hunt squirrels for?
17hmr is a wicked round! Out to 150 yards no trouble. Gets pushed around by the wind a lot but vs small game it’s the best out there.
I killed a crow at 230
17 hmr is a nice round very effective round for hunting small and medium game. Handy rifle to have when your out checking your traps. I trap beaver and otter and we sometimes run into a group of otters. They're hardy animals we used to carry 223 but ammo is expensive after a while and depending in what kind of rifle you carry could be heavy.
You mean just small game. They’re shit for anything bigger than a rabbit or squirrel. If you’re going coyote or stick to .223.
@@VendettaNC I wouldn't use it for dogs. I've used 17hmr on seals and does the job just fine just have to be careful of shot placement.
I'm from Ukraine and I really like your videos☺
It’s deer digging around for food and or to soften up their beds
It’s a deer digging it up it’s making a bed and digging for food
That's one MAJOR advantage of a lever action. If there's a misfire you simply pull the hammer back and it ALWAYS fires then!👍👍😉😉
Thanks for this really good video.
Did the firing pin leave a deep impression on the rim of those two consecutive misfires?
In other words do you think it was the rifle or the ammo causing the problem?
You were a hungry boy, lol.
Hornady my man.
Puzzled ? What bore size is a 17HMR ---like a 22 air rifle ? no -? smaller ---177 ?---hunted in Africa 60 years --never seen one !
Nice hunting 😂😂😂😂😂😂 use and Phillinas
I finally got my first kill with 17hmr last Monday Squirrel and got lucky I could barely see him but I nailed him. Love my Savage 93r17 I got other guns but right now 17hmr takes my small game hunting gun.
You taught those varmint a lesson
There are several videos about how to skin a squirrel without getting hair on the meat. Check them out. I'll never skin another squirrel like I used to again.