Shaun, after your last Nahatlatch video, we had new members join from all over the world - Australia, New Zealand, Switzerland, and a dozen or so from the US. We're grateful for so much support!
@@TheStoryTillNow and we welcome members from everywhere! While their voices may not have a direct impact on government here, showing the breadth of people who care DOES mean something, as we've seen in the past.
I don’t know how you did it, but you made me someone who has no attachment to this place feel like I have an attachment to this place. Mastery in story telling.
My mom accidentally set the forest on fire behind our house when she tried to burn the yard off over 1,000 acres.. but it came back and now it looks beautiful. The fire department told her if she ever so much as lights a barbecue to call them first LOL
@hashfromjc not just climate change. It's mainly from the fact that we try to stop natutal fires in order to protect people and properties. So then all that material that normal burns up let's say every 5 years, has been growing for the past 20. Then a fire starts and now it's so built up that humans can't stop it.
Awesome video as always TSTN. Shaun your videos and stories are so amazing that no matter where you're from you feel a connection to the BC fire look out towers.
great video, that takes me back. I was one of those lookout men back in the late 1960's spent one summer up on Kinbasket Lookout up near Mica Creek and another on Mount Baker above Cranbrook. Those were great experiences. Too bad that those positions no longer exist.
@@TheStoryTillNow Could be interesting. I may be travelling overseas until Oct 21, just waiting to see if I can get some things cleared up first. Keith
I was born and raised in Michigan, which is a dream of trees and fresh water. Now 71, my childhood was spent riding horses in Northern Michigan among the glorious green. I cried watching this video today. I recently read that Northern Michigan someday will probably be sought out by future generations seeking respite from the insanity and greed of global warming... I never dreamed in all my life that I would regret having children and grandchildren, but now I do.
Never was able to see it but always heard about it as a local kid, now I have to go see the new one. This is why 🇨🇦Canada🇨🇦 needs to do more controlled burns in the off season. Love the way you made this Shaun 🤘 4wdabc represent
Great vid, I just stumbled upon... got a couple questions tho.... so, first, how can a forest fire melt aluminum like that... that seems a bit extreme to me... Ive seen it before on other fire footage... seems very out of place.. Ive seen fire aftermath a number of times, but I have never ever seen it melt metals like these new fires do??.... and second, Im curious how long before they will let anyone back on the land? I listened to someone else discuss the burned areas in BC, and talking about all the half burned trees, that if they were not harvested, the area would become very dangerous and the gubement would not let anyone on it, much too dangerous. Can anyone speak to either of these? Thanks much.
Aluminum melts at 600C/1220F. Forest fires burn at 800-1200C (1500-2200F). The fire finder was inside a structure made of dried wood and paint, so it was probably on the upper end of that scale. The steel corners and cable supports all survived, but steel's melting point is in the 1400-1500C range. The concern going forward is not so much the trees themselves, but the lack of vegetation to hold the hillside together. Fall rains, winter snows, and spring melt, could cause serious erosion and possible landslides now.
The forest regenerates so much better after a fire compared to after logging! Hopefully they don't try to salvage log which make a bad situation much worse
@@russelltackett4779 I have no problem with logging on private land. It's the logging in previously unlogged Forest under the guise of fire prevention that irks me! Many Studies have shown that if you thin a forest it will burn with greater severity because of the increased airflow. The logging industry fought the legalization of hemp because it is a great wood-alternative that is produced with very little effort or environmental degradation. Hemp makes excellent paper and Building Supplies like plywood and even I beams! Enjoy the day Russell!
I man a tower in Central Idaho and it breaks my heart seeing towers burn.😢 I really hope that the tower can be rebuilt to continue the story and tell the history of lookouts. From my rock in the sky to yours, I wish you luck in rebuilding.
Maning a tower, you should understand that this is a part of nature. Forests have burned for millennia, without human intervention. Humans just think this shouldn't happen because we have the technology to stop fires. If the forests were allowed to burn or at least managed properly, no environmentalists involved, everything would be better off.
@KEALOHA669 I didn't see it that way. I live in this place, and native dwellers here are quite interested in their surroundings. Great storytelling happening here. Yes, of course, we rebuild the fire lookouts. They are a vital part of the fire service in all remote areas.
One of the best videos for TSTN. Masterful use of documentary videos about the fire lookouts and integration of previous drone footage. Terrific story telling.
Wow, what a devastating mess. British Columbia is a beautiful place as is all of Canada. It’s too bad the fire wiped out such beauty. God bless you Canadians from your friends in the USA. Canada will grow back and it will be beautiful just like it was before the wildfires.
Such a great BC treasure. Thank you for honouring it so beautifully. As fellow BC’ers, we feel the impact from the wildfires and love when stunning places like this one are highlighted so well. Keep going my friend! 👏🏼
Awe man , heart wrenching. Seeing Kim dust off that plaque was like looking at a tombstone. Couldn't have better members as our ambassadors go check it out ! Thanks
As of September 15, 6,317 fires had burned 173,598 square kilometres (67,027 sq mi; 42,897,000 acres), about 5% of the entire forest area of Canada and more than six times the long-term average of 2.71 million ha (6.7 million acres) for that time of the year. As of September 15, there were 913 wildfires active, and 527 of those were deemed "out of control". International aid has helped reduce the impact of the fires. Smoke emitted from the wildfires has caused air quality alerts and evacuations in Canada and the United States. In late June, the smoke crossed the Atlantic, reaching Europe. *normally* Vancouver Island escapes the fire season. Not this year, B.C. Wildfire Service (BCWS) had reported that the fire, which was located on Mount Con Reid, has decreased to a size of 1,402 hectares on Monday afternoon (Aug 21). This was after it had reached a high of 1,577 hectares a day prior. It had swallowed the other wildfire, located in the Wolf River valley, with both fires being considered one.
A week ago I drove down the island and from the highway saw some strange fires in cut blocks off in the distance north of Sayward. There had been no lightning and no campers would have been up there. Sayward has been dealing with a string of are son fires, it seems likely that a lot of the others in the province were similar considering that the weather this year hasn't been atypical.
@@mark2073According to BCWS numbers, of 403 active fires right now, 324 have been caused by lightning, 28 by people, and 51 unknown. 85% caused by lightning is definitely atypical - it's far higher than normal (the 10-year average is 58%). It's also been far dryer than usual, for much longer than usual, which in addition to increasing the chance of lightning strikes starting a fire, has led to the fires burning more area than ever (the record for most area burned was set in mid-JULY). Lightning-sparked fires can smoulder undetected for days or even weeks before they hit some good fuel or are fanned by a wind. The Kookipi fire burned across the valley for over a month wth almost no growth until the wind came up and pushed it down the valley to take out the tower within just a few hours. Yes, the overall weather this year throughout BC has been quite atypical.
As mentioned, great video Shaun. Love how you showed the vintage videos explaining things. I have no doubt the association will rebuild, but it will take some time for the red tape. It will be interesting to see how much the trail gets washed out now.
Even though i live in Florida and have never been to Canada, i joined the 4-wheel Drive Association of British Columbia after watching your last video. Can't wait for the rebuild. 💪🇺🇲🇨🇦
A friend of mine was there a few days before the fire reached the lookout. He was with a friend, who is a fire chief, and they had shared a video of them using the sighting tools and seeing a fire across the valley. I don't get my Jeep out much currently, but I remember the first time wheeling down to Hale Creek after the last big fires, and being so deeply shocked by the destruction. I'm glad we have such a great community that will defend our access to these trails, rebuild the shelters and lookouts, and promote smart usage of our amazing area.
Extremely sad and I'm so sorry to see that your firefinder device melted as well. The really sad thing is that these towers were decommissioned in the first place, if anything they should have built more!
@@CarswithNash Agreed. The problem with satellites is that they may only fly over an area once or twice a day and in this case it would have been too late. The speed and intensity of this fire (due to sudden extreme wind activity) was crazy. Also I'm not sure how precise satellite imaging is. I'm sure it doesn't come close to being up close and personal.
I just signed up for 4wdabc and just got a email saying payment accepted. I can’t wait to help to rebuild this tower. As always Shaun with the amazing camera and footage work. Can’t wait to be apart of this amazing group and support it the best I can.
It's a shame loosing that history. Just like piss poor forestry management in California, so it is in BC. California hasn't woke up yet, hopefully BC has. Thank you for sharing this story.
Idea for when it gets rebuilt, potentially include an underground water storage system (ideally to be able to collect water during the rainy season, as a BC local I know we have plenty of that) and technology to automatically turn on sprinklers to protect the area if the tech senses fire is too close. Also built with materials in such a way to hopefully make sure the future fire lookout building doesn't catch fire again.
I remember visiting this lookout during my years spent working on FS initial attack crews during the '70s. We had to occasionally replenish it during the summers when it was still being manned. It got replaced by occasional fly-bys late that decade. All part of the downgrading of forest fire services of the past decades. Perhaps the loss of such eyes on the surrounding forests has something to do with the growth of wildfires in recent years.
It's been difficult in the States to find info on the fire impacts in Canada. So I appreciate this video. I'm in Colorado and find it heart-wrenching to return to my favorite forests only to find scorched earth. The emotions I go through are complex and hard to describe. I feel disoriented, shocked, and displaced. I won't live long enough to see what grows back, but it will be different. So I'm overwhelmed with gratitude that I saw the land rich with trees and wildlife and beauty in my lifetime. But saddened beyond belief that future generations won't have the same experience. Thanks again.
I just want to add, that in Colorado, we are realizing that many forests will not 'grow back'. The fires burned too hot and too long and 10 or more years later, many areas have no regrowth of trees, and the best hope is that they will recover with grasses or sagebrush. In some areas with sandy soil, they are finding the sand turned into bits of glass. I hope Canada has a better fate.
Sad to see the devastation those wildfires have caused. We call them bushfires here in Australia. Like you said, the trees will grow back and the tower can be rebuild. It'll take time. We're in our springtime now end are heading towards summer. I'm a bushfire volunteer myself here in Western Australia and we are bracing for a busy season. We had below average rainfall during winter, it's not looking any better during spring either. Fingers crossed and see what happens. Cheers.
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Still remember those fires from early 2020... Been there and have seen only beginning of that in 2019, hear peoples stories about 'em, those are awful down there, hope you will not have any. Australia is such nice country.
Actually, ecologists have reported that in some areas, such as Kelowna, the trees will not return due to increasing temps. The wild grasses and brush might rebound, good for fat deer, but not the pine and fir. The landscape has changed, and most of us will not ever see the once forrested hills recover fully. :/
As someone who lives directly IN the wildfire zones, and been hit 3 times recently...can we have an honest conversation about the government? When I contact BC wildfire services about how their "actioning" of fires has not resulted in any actual fighting of fires, they have LITERALLY started talking about climate change, instead of why they aren't putting out fires. I also asked why the government gives community service to convicted eco terrorists, instead of execution, and they get ANGRY. The problem isn't climate change, it's government. The liberal/ndp party of Canada is using mentally unwell activists, and mass fear, to push their destructive globalist policies...chasing people out of the country and into their crime and drug riddled cities. As well, 1.5 BILLION to the CBC every year, and the CBC is going to podcast only...so where does the money go? Well that's weird, the CBC now owns HUGE tracts of land in Canada. So here it is in a nutshell: Liberals/ndp remove the money from fire services, places activists in positions of power, BURNS huge areas of Canada, then funnels billions of our tax dollars through the CBC and buys OUR land at discount prices, all while they print money, run up inflation and make sure that everyone is renting, not owning. How long before people wake up to this FACT???
@@TheStoryTillNow I live in the BC forest. Hate to tell you brother, but these are OUR politics, and OUR problems. Until people stop pretending there's no problem, things are going to get worse and worse. Just delete my comment if it's offensive, and be prepared for there being NO forests left in BC if we can't have the hard conversations, just scrabble on our knees crying about the aftermath.
My husband and I were just talking about this. In 2019 BC spent 800 MILLION on fire services. This year they released the numbers and they reduced it to 32 million. Just follow the money. That is only 4 PERCENT of the 2019 budget. How do they account for that drastic of a reduction? We moved to Alberta because BC is just too unsafe.
@@TheStoryTillNow Ah, okay, fair enough. It's just do damn frustrating, I love these forests, and I don't want to think about politics either, I like hockey, hunting and beer. But something has got to change here. I was in Kelowna the day that fire started, and not a single aircraft did anything...even when it jumped the lake. It's just crazy, but I'll respect your wishes. T'was a great video, it just gets me SO ANGRY. My property lost 80% of its trees (so far) to fire, it's really really personal.
It was an honor to have stayed there. Had one of the most amazing nights with a best friend who had recently returned after being away for a long time on an ATV trip. We spent the day trying to find it and it saved us from a wild rain storm that blew in that night. It will be missed dearly seeing the footage was shocking
I've seen forests 10 years after an intense wildfire in the Chilcotin region that look more or less the same. Not all wildfires create new growth, especially if it happens repeatedly too soon afterwards.@@Kiyoone
I have driven through recent burns here in Washington State. It is surreal if you have never done so. The level of destruction is insane. There isn't any dirt left. It is all ash/baby powder like material on the ground. There is no sign of life, and it is just hot if the sun is out. The only thing standing is charred tooth picks. The rocks that are normally rounded from thousand of years of erosion are now fragmented sharp chunks from exploding from the extreme heat. Even months after the fire the roots can still be burning. A fire that was put out in September still had roots burning during hunting season. I was traversing along a hills side for a few miles, and came to the edge of a recent fire. As I stopped to get my bearing with my beads, compass, and map I noticed I could see red embers in the tree roots. I called it in once I got to the top of the ridge, and the FS knew. I guess it is common because of the sap in the roots. ***WARNING*** If you are in a burn scar area make damn sure you know if there is rain on the way. Flash floods, and mud slides are almost a guarantee. ~Act accordingly ProHo
Great video! Being a good storyteller and the amazing cinematography of your videos, Shaun have just grown in talent over the years! We've watched (and laughed!) at your earliest videos! You and your parents and now your family must be super proud! It says a lot to be the "chosen" to go places to document what happened and is happening! Love your work! Keep it up!
I think we all know where Shaun's next trip will be headed. Anyone else want to see what's down that unknown road that appeared? Much love from Texas, sorry for the loss of your fire tower and I cant wait to see it stand tall for yall once again.
Shaun thank you for showing us what happened. My heart goes out to you and every person that held this dear. Rebuild it and along with Mother Nature many more generations will enjoy this. Remember you had a small but powerful part to play in that.
Thanks for the view of the aftermath ……..something for you to consider……..melting point for aluminum vs temp of fires are drastically different…….something for you to look into ………fires are not your average fires these days
Aluminum melts at 660C, even a small forest fires burn around 800C and this one was huge. A quick google search could have told you this. Stop believing stupid conspiracy theory’s.
🌴Aloha from Hawaii💚Thank you for sharing. Watching both Maui and Kelowna on fire just wore me out.💙 I am a native of Hawaii but lived in T.O. and vacationed in Kelowna. Until my family expired and no longer among the living.💛 May all go well with you, your family and colleagues. Better times are coming.❤️Have a great and safe week...
Let this be a lesson, even though it won’t, that small control fires need to be performed to keep these massive fires from taking place. Environ”mental” groups that keep burns from happening are endangering countless lives and the very forests and creatures they think they are saving.
Finally, somebody gets it. It all needs burning before the forest gets to this late stage. Let natures fires burn when they happen, or it gets out of hand. It will happen anyway, sooner or later. Better sooner & controlled.
I hope you guys can rebuild it, that would make a good series on YT. BUT, you must have at least a 30m clearing, void of any trees/shrubs/bush, between the tower & the tree line of the forest. This will help prevent a fire from getting too close.
It looks so different, thanks for the perspective Shaun, its crazy to see the area like this. It will grow back thankfully but its a shame that the tower ended up getting taken out. Thanks for sharing.
Earlier this years i drove to Lytton to do some gold panning. It was right out emotional to see how, even after this long people have not begun to rebuild. I spoke to a tribe elder who told me that he does not believe most people to come back to Lytton...We live in a province that now spend upwards of $500 Million+ on fighting fires all thru the summer. Would it not help if we spend a couple 100 mill on prevention?. remove kindling, plow fire fire "barriers" to lessen the risk to populated areas? It baffles me that cities like Kelowna has to endure this every couple of years... I'm sure our Government are hard at work trying to figure this problem out. Expect to see an increase in "Carbon" tax on Gasoline (Petrol / Benzin) to offset the pollution of the fires. Perhaps the PM will hike the tax on soft lumber or right out ban lumber that appear to be a threat of burning easier than other types (I am joking). I loved your video, gave you a follows and smashed the thumbs up button!. Thank You!
This is what gets me the most about these fires. The history we lose in the woods. But also the new stuff we find. I rode through a fire area recently and found so much stuff I had no idea was there. Old roads, cabin sites. tons of old garbage.
Yes, as you see in the video, we discovered several old roads that had been overgrown over the decades... some that according to the maps run deep into the backcountry. Hidden gates and signage too. Looking forward to investigating some of those when it's safe to go in again! And of course, there were all the piles of old garbage that had previously been hidden by the brush around the tower.
@@MattIon maybe collect some of that old "garbage" and restore it, to bring it back to the tower, as the old tins, and anything else that might be of historical value. I made a reddit post looking for an old Osborne Firefinder, maybe we get lucky and find another one.
@@KrazyMitchAdventures there wasn't a whole lot of that that was saveable, it had been out in the elements for so many decades. I think Kim brought home a couple pieces of cutlery and one ceramic bowl that was still intact. Other than that, I believe most of the steel corner pieces, hinges and handles from the tower were saved.
Another great video Shaun. Thank you for making a record of the 1st visit after the fire. My wife and I were there in 2016 and as others, we morn the loss but are comforted by the fact that it will be rebuilt again. As a 4WDABC member, I will be there to help anyway I can.
I just did a RECON in our largest fire area in COLORADO ! The BERRY BUSHES will BLOOM the BEARS will profit from this AND THE LIFE CYCLE will RECLAIM ALL maybe not in my life time as I am 66 yo but soon Life will EMERGE !!!
@@rasco81 Weird how what we see and experience is the same thing scientists are saying though.. Its not like Im not seeing smoke outside in the middle of saskatchewan nearly every single day this summer for the first time ever
Putting fires out as soon as they start upsets the natural balance of the forest. Eventually the forest will burn with much more devastating effects than if nature had been allowed to take its course.
To all climate commentators; Yup we are in a climate change. The Earth has been alternating between long ice ages and shorter interglacial periods for around 2.6 million years. For the last million years or so these have been happening roughly every 100,000 years - around 90,000 years of ice age followed by a roughly 10,000 year interglacial warm period. The last interglacial period began approximately 12,500 years ago. So we are due for a shift in our climate. Still a shame that this iconic place burnt down & that a lot of fires are started by human activities.
Wildfires are normal, arson is not. how many arsonists were at the climate march? Many if not most or all of the fire towers have been decommissioned by the BC Govt and our excellent fire bombers contracts let go by the NDP gove several years ago. Bombers went to South America. Have family in the Caribou. Fires used to be caught early and taken care of, the planes buzzing overhead in the summers. Natural fires have not increased. During 2020 there were hardly any fires....everyone was at home.
Shaun, this video showed up in my feed. You are such a talented story-teller. Like many others, you made me feel so tender for a place I had no attachment to. Thank you for sharing this.
My brother worked in the forest service in Washington and ran a crew of college kids every summer clearing brush! It was called “slash and burn”! It gave money to college kids instead of free money and they got a great workout, fresh air and stayed out of trouble! Now they ignore the forest to make it “natural” and it naturally burns! Sad!
Excellent video and story. It will likely be quite a long while before the area re stabilizes with new growth - but new growth is key to the recovery. Thank you for sharing this.
The Northern Americas have a fire-dependent ecosystem. Wildfires protect savanna, plains and pine forests, encourage the reproduction of native wildflowers and coniferous trees, and drive out invasive species that cannot tolerate regular fire. It’s sad that they affect us so greatly, but hopefully we can learn to live with them, educate and prepare for them so our local ecosystems and people can thrive.
Looking at the site from the drone shot, I don't understand why the trees weren't cleared back. Forests burn, and do if we don't clear fire breaks around what we build it is certainly going to burn at some point. Years ago we owned a timeshare at Lake Okanagan Resort across from Kelowna. The first time we went there I said that when, not if there's a fire, this is going to burn. A few weeks ago it did.
Government mismanagement is to blame. Tax dollars spent on nonsense while everything we hold dear , from family to freedom, is destroyed. The people need to take back their power to manage the country and their lives as they see fit before the government gets too much control.
That is the most touching video I have seen yet and I feel for you guys. My heart goes out for all of you in this tragic time. What the 4-wheel drive association done to preserve history this is a tear jerker. I am very touched by this and all I can do is give my heart and love to you all and send a prayer that this will be overcome. I know one day the tower will be rebuilt and history will live on forever. Shaun I wish I can be a part of you guys but I'm just too far away and my health does not allow me to do what I used to but one thing that can reach further than being there is the soul and the love and the true feeling in the heart the center of what is love for everyone for a special place as this it is something that will stand again and be the most beautiful sight to see and that is one day the tower will be rebuilt and everyone will be able to enjoy what is here for us to see in the beauty of creation. This is a real touching video and it hit right here in the center of my soul. My heart, love and prayers goes out to all of you. Yes there will be a way and that way is look forward and it will be as grand as it once was. One of the most touching videos I have seen since I subscribed to your channel and very glad I did. You have a very the top of the best channel I know.
We need to implement solutions that acknowledge climate change, like creating Beaver or beaver-type wetlands, firebreaks and planting drought and pine beetle resistant trees.
Wow I haven’t been up there since the fires! Unfortunately after the wildfires comes flooding and mudslides next spring as there is no vegetation left to prevent erosion. Best to get prepared.
So the fires have burnt the valley and now we have another atmospheric river coming through soon . This is gonna be one big washout as all the root mass that would normally hold back the water ,just ain't there no more.
the spring rains, if no draught, will wash down a lot of debris and ash that when dried out will be like concrete. how deep is the ground burnt? if it was a fast fire the ground won't be burnt to into sterilization and there will be a big flush of growth. deep burnt ground should do aerial seeding of grasses to stabilize the surface.
As a retired forester I watch with mixed emotions. The old is gone but new will return. Our western forests evolved with uncontrolled wildfire. I now take the attitude that a forest is not lost but a new forest will be created. If you have any doubts take a trip to Wallace Idaho and see the areas burned in the Great Burn 1910. I look foreword to your group rebuilding the fire lookout.
Interesting... Tin cans and sheet metal siding didn't melt, but the cast aluminum and glass did. I'm sad that you lost such a beautiful spot. Hopefully it will not be closed for years.. And when did that solar paneled weather station(?) Get put up there ( since you had to clear a path up?) It looked it great condition from my TV but maybe not in reality.???? I hope you are able to rebuild and find a new fire finder quickly. Hopefully we will see less of these fires
The solar panels and the generator in the can below them are part of a WiFi repeater network to provide internet to valley residents. They've been there for several years and even hosted a webcam that anyone could view the tower from. Technicians were able to get up there a few days after the fire (and actually did a lot of road clearing prior to our visit) and started replacing the damaged equipment right away. At the time we were there, they still hadn't replaced the generator, but the new solar panels were up and functioning.
Unnatural fire like all but 3 in Ca and Lahaina. Did the cars melt but plastic bins remained, did blue items remain unharmed?... Was this whole Canadian hit have been WEF for smart cities using DEW, microwave.
The bad thing is will be in heavy rains for the potential of hill slides now because the vegetation is all gone that would hold the hillside up. The grass will grow back fairly quickly but if it truly killed the trees then it will look barren for a long time. (edit: he ended up saying that in the end after I wrote)
Thank you for an excellent ride along on your assessment of your loss. I am far too familiar with this scenario, living in Northern California and having been a avid off-roader and primitive camper for the last 4 decades. Several of the lush forests of the Sierra Nevada, Cascades, Siskiyous, and Coastal Range have been similarly devastated by these types of wildfires in the past 5 years or so. When you travel into an area that for decades you have known as a beautiful forest of majestic 100’ tall sugar pines, ponderosa pines, cedar trees, etc……and it is like a gray moonscape where you can see the bare hillsides for miles, the deer running half a mile away searching for cover, and that acrid smell of burnt pitch. It just seems to suck the air out of your lungs and drain all your energy, and just leave you feeling lost, like this just can’t be real. But you know time will heal the land, the forest will regrow, and the wildlife will return, maybe not in your lifetime, but nature will persevere. I just hope climate change does not accelerate this process and increase this devastation.
Wildfires typically burn in the 800-1200C range. Since the fire finder was inside a big box made of dried wood and paint, it was probably subjected to the upper end of that range.
Shaun, after your last Nahatlatch video, we had new members join from all over the world - Australia, New Zealand, Switzerland, and a dozen or so from the US. We're grateful for so much support!
my renewal is due next month. I will be renewing
If you want to join, head to www.4wdabc.ca
@@TheStoryTillNow and we welcome members from everywhere! While their voices may not have a direct impact on government here, showing the breadth of people who care DOES mean something, as we've seen in the past.
Shaun is a big reason why I joined!
The 4WDABC does a lot of great things.
Well worth the small annual membership fee.
I don’t know how you did it, but you made me someone who has no attachment to this place feel like I have an attachment to this place. Mastery in story telling.
ITs the heart that connects us :)
Especially that fire finder, so sad it’s gone and had high hopes in the beginning of the video. 😢
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YOU ARENT CONNECTE TO THE PLANET???? WYM???? DEFORESTATION IS A GLOBAL ISSUE!!!
Fires are a natural part of a forest. They bring about healthy new growth.
My thoughts exactly Greener and more lush.
My mom accidentally set the forest on fire behind our house when she tried to burn the yard off over 1,000 acres.. but it came back and now it looks beautiful. The fire department told her if she ever so much as lights a barbecue to call them first LOL
Fires are worse now with human cause climate change. BC experienced its worst drought on record this year
@hashfromjc not just climate change. It's mainly from the fact that we try to stop natutal fires in order to protect people and properties. So then all that material that normal burns up let's say every 5 years, has been growing for the past 20. Then a fire starts and now it's so built up that humans can't stop it.
@@hashfromjc you're absolutely right we totally need to stop cows from farting.. they're getting out of control
Awesome video as always TSTN. Shaun your videos and stories are so amazing that no matter where you're from you feel a connection to the BC fire look out towers.
Sorry about that beautiful Lookout !!
I know you guys will rebuild again.
Much love from Colorado. ❤🙏
great video, that takes me back. I was one of those lookout men back in the late 1960's spent one summer up on Kinbasket Lookout up near Mica Creek and another on Mount Baker above Cranbrook. Those were great experiences. Too bad that those positions no longer exist.
I’d love to interview you for a project I’m working on. Shoot me an email if you are interested. shaun@thestorytillnow.com
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Could be interesting. I may be travelling overseas until Oct 21, just waiting to see if I can get some things cleared up first.
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Thanks for documenting this, IT WILL BE BACK.🙏🏼😎
I was born and raised in Michigan, which is a dream of trees and fresh water. Now 71, my childhood was spent riding horses in Northern Michigan among the glorious green. I cried watching this video today. I recently read that Northern Michigan someday will probably be sought out by future generations seeking respite from the insanity and greed of global warming... I never dreamed in all my life that I would regret having children and grandchildren, but now I do.
Never was able to see it but always heard about it as a local kid, now I have to go see the new one. This is why 🇨🇦Canada🇨🇦 needs to do more controlled burns in the off season. Love the way you made this Shaun 🤘 4wdabc represent
Yes, that and more clearing some of the fuels that have been building on the forest floor for years.
the fork survived can it be cleaned and reused? I hope the blueprints for the Look out Tower are somewhere safe and can be used to rebuild it :))
Great vid, I just stumbled upon... got a couple questions tho.... so, first, how can a forest fire melt aluminum like that... that seems a bit extreme to me... Ive seen it before on other fire footage... seems very out of place.. Ive seen fire aftermath a number of times, but I have never ever seen it melt metals like these new fires do??....
and second, Im curious how long before they will let anyone back on the land? I listened to someone else discuss the burned areas in BC, and talking about all the half burned trees, that if they were not harvested, the area would become very dangerous and the gubement would not let anyone on it, much too dangerous.
Can anyone speak to either of these? Thanks much.
Aluminum melts at 600C/1220F. Forest fires burn at 800-1200C (1500-2200F). The fire finder was inside a structure made of dried wood and paint, so it was probably on the upper end of that scale.
The steel corners and cable supports all survived, but steel's melting point is in the 1400-1500C range.
The concern going forward is not so much the trees themselves, but the lack of vegetation to hold the hillside together. Fall rains, winter snows, and spring melt, could cause serious erosion and possible landslides now.
Thanks for this. But it’s a heartbreaker. I look forward to heading up there again one day in my trusty 4Runner.
In 5 years you wont even be able to tell there was a fire there.
This is nature's way of forest restoration. Nasty now. In the not too distant future, the forest will be back healthier.
Yes it will
Yeah this
The forest regenerates so much better after a fire compared to after logging! Hopefully they don't try to salvage log which make a bad situation much worse
@@andyroubik5760 If your against logging quit using wood and paper products
@@russelltackett4779 I have no problem with logging on private land. It's the logging in previously unlogged Forest under the guise of fire prevention that irks me! Many Studies have shown that if you thin a forest it will burn with greater severity because of the increased airflow. The logging industry fought the legalization of hemp because it is a great wood-alternative that is produced with very little effort or environmental degradation. Hemp makes excellent paper and Building Supplies like plywood and even I beams! Enjoy the day Russell!
Thanks for putting this video together, I am sure many of the locals appreciate the care and time put into this.
I man a tower in Central Idaho and it breaks my heart seeing towers burn.😢 I really hope that the tower can be rebuilt to continue the story and tell the history of lookouts. From my rock in the sky to yours, I wish you luck in rebuilding.
Maning a tower, you should understand that this is a part of nature. Forests have burned for millennia, without human intervention. Humans just think this shouldn't happen because we have the technology to stop fires. If the forests were allowed to burn or at least managed properly, no environmentalists involved, everything would be better off.
@KEALOHA669 I didn't see it that way. I live in this place, and native dwellers here are quite interested in their surroundings. Great storytelling happening here. Yes, of course, we rebuild the fire lookouts. They are a vital part of the fire service in all remote areas.
That was the only toxic thing that is gone ,
@@colealasks8710 what makes you say that?
Thank you for what you do, and thank you for the comment.
One of the best videos for TSTN. Masterful use of documentary videos about the fire lookouts and integration of previous drone footage. Terrific story telling.
Glad you enjoyed it!
So very well done Shaun. It’s so enjoyable to watch your video productions! Keep up the phenomenal work!
Wow, what a devastating mess. British Columbia is a beautiful place as is all of Canada. It’s too bad the fire wiped out such beauty. God bless you Canadians from your friends in the USA. Canada will grow back and it will be beautiful just like it was before the wildfires.
This was an outstanding video. A poignant blend of somber respect, the value of tradition, knowledge, and enduring hope.
Such a great BC treasure. Thank you for honouring it so beautifully. As fellow BC’ers, we feel the impact from the wildfires and love when stunning places like this one are highlighted so well. Keep going my friend! 👏🏼
Awe man , heart wrenching.
Seeing Kim dust off that plaque was like looking at a tombstone.
Couldn't have better members as our ambassadors go check it out ! Thanks
As of September 15, 6,317 fires had burned 173,598 square kilometres (67,027 sq mi; 42,897,000 acres), about 5% of the entire forest area of Canada and more than six times the long-term average of 2.71 million ha (6.7 million acres) for that time of the year. As of September 15, there were 913 wildfires active, and 527 of those were deemed "out of control". International aid has helped reduce the impact of the fires.
Smoke emitted from the wildfires has caused air quality alerts and evacuations in Canada and the United States. In late June, the smoke crossed the Atlantic, reaching Europe.
*normally* Vancouver Island escapes the fire season. Not this year, B.C. Wildfire Service (BCWS) had reported that the fire, which was located on Mount Con Reid, has decreased to a size of 1,402 hectares on Monday afternoon (Aug 21). This was after it had reached a high of 1,577 hectares a day prior. It had swallowed the other wildfire, located in the Wolf River valley, with both fires being considered one.
A week ago I drove down the island and from the highway saw some strange fires in cut blocks off in the distance north of Sayward. There had been no lightning and no campers would have been up there. Sayward has been dealing with a string of are son fires, it seems likely that a lot of the others in the province were similar considering that the weather this year hasn't been atypical.
@@mark2073According to BCWS numbers, of 403 active fires right now, 324 have been caused by lightning, 28 by people, and 51 unknown. 85% caused by lightning is definitely atypical - it's far higher than normal (the 10-year average is 58%). It's also been far dryer than usual, for much longer than usual, which in addition to increasing the chance of lightning strikes starting a fire, has led to the fires burning more area than ever (the record for most area burned was set in mid-JULY).
Lightning-sparked fires can smoulder undetected for days or even weeks before they hit some good fuel or are fanned by a wind. The Kookipi fire burned across the valley for over a month wth almost no growth until the wind came up and pushed it down the valley to take out the tower within just a few hours.
Yes, the overall weather this year throughout BC has been quite atypical.
@MattIon Luckily it looks like the fall rains are incoming.
I've been running equipment on big creek fire around germansen landing, it's now 155 000 hectares
As mentioned, great video Shaun. Love how you showed the vintage videos explaining things. I have no doubt the association will rebuild, but it will take some time for the red tape. It will be interesting to see how much the trail gets washed out now.
Even though i live in Florida and have never been to Canada, i joined the 4-wheel Drive Association of British Columbia after watching your last video. Can't wait for the rebuild. 💪🇺🇲🇨🇦
Welcome aboard!
A brilliantly told story. Prayers for a speedy recovery! Very well done, Shaun.
A friend of mine was there a few days before the fire reached the lookout. He was with a friend, who is a fire chief, and they had shared a video of them using the sighting tools and seeing a fire across the valley. I don't get my Jeep out much currently, but I remember the first time wheeling down to Hale Creek after the last big fires, and being so deeply shocked by the destruction. I'm glad we have such a great community that will defend our access to these trails, rebuild the shelters and lookouts, and promote smart usage of our amazing area.
Extremely sad and I'm so sorry to see that your firefinder device melted as well. The really sad thing is that these towers were decommissioned in the first place, if anything they should have built more!
@johnmartlew Yes and the lighthouses are another one that pisses me off. There is no replacement for having a human there.
@@CarswithNash Agreed. The problem with satellites is that they may only fly over an area once or twice a day and in this case it would have been too late. The speed and intensity of this fire (due to sudden extreme wind activity) was crazy. Also I'm not sure how precise satellite imaging is. I'm sure it doesn't come close to being up close and personal.
@@sldtdc1 The satellites used for this type of work are Geo-Stationary meaning they stay in a fixed position in orbit. Check out the GOES satellites.
I just signed up for 4wdabc and just got a email saying payment accepted. I can’t wait to help to rebuild this tower. As always Shaun with the amazing camera and footage work. Can’t wait to be apart of this amazing group and support it the best I can.
Prayers to the people and animals , and thank you to all that helped get the fires put out ❤️🙏❤️ love from the uk .
It's a shame loosing that history. Just like piss poor forestry management in California, so it is in BC. California hasn't woke up yet, hopefully BC has. Thank you for sharing this story.
Idea for when it gets rebuilt, potentially include an underground water storage system (ideally to be able to collect water during the rainy season, as a BC local I know we have plenty of that) and technology to automatically turn on sprinklers to protect the area if the tech senses fire is too close. Also built with materials in such a way to hopefully make sure the future fire lookout building doesn't catch fire again.
What you are suggesting is unfortunately going to cost a couple hundred thousand dollars to build and thousands of dollars to maintain.
I remember visiting this lookout during my years spent working on FS initial attack crews during the '70s. We had to occasionally replenish it during the summers when it was still being manned. It got replaced by occasional fly-bys late that decade. All part of the downgrading of forest fire services of the past decades. Perhaps the loss of such eyes on the surrounding forests has something to do with the growth of wildfires in recent years.
It's been difficult in the States to find info on the fire impacts in Canada. So I appreciate this video. I'm in Colorado and find it heart-wrenching to return to my favorite forests only to find scorched earth. The emotions I go through are complex and hard to describe. I feel disoriented, shocked, and displaced. I won't live long enough to see what grows back, but it will be different. So I'm overwhelmed with gratitude that I saw the land rich with trees and wildlife and beauty in my lifetime. But saddened beyond belief that future generations won't have the same experience. Thanks again.
I just want to add, that in Colorado, we are realizing that many forests will not 'grow back'. The fires burned too hot and too long and 10 or more years later, many areas have no regrowth of trees, and the best hope is that they will recover with grasses or sagebrush. In some areas with sandy soil, they are finding the sand turned into bits of glass. I hope Canada has a better fate.
Sad to see the devastation those wildfires have caused. We call them bushfires here in Australia. Like you said, the trees will grow back and the tower can be rebuild. It'll take time. We're in our springtime now end are heading towards summer. I'm a bushfire volunteer myself here in Western Australia and we are bracing for a busy season. We had below average rainfall during winter, it's not looking any better during spring either. Fingers crossed and see what happens. Cheers.
Still remember those fires from early 2020... Been there and have seen only beginning of that in 2019, hear peoples stories about 'em, those are awful down there, hope you will not have any. Australia is such nice country.
Actually, ecologists have reported that in some areas, such as Kelowna, the trees will not return due to increasing temps. The wild grasses and brush might rebound, good for fat deer, but not the pine and fir. The landscape has changed, and most of us will not ever see the once forrested hills recover fully. :/
That's not good. Hopefully it'll be limited in size.
Had a lot of friends in Keefers lose their houses in this fire. They to are trying to remain positive and begin rebuilding.
Doesn't look like a wildfire. Things that should have burned did not, and things burned that should not have.
As someone who lives directly IN the wildfire zones, and been hit 3 times recently...can we have an honest conversation about the government?
When I contact BC wildfire services about how their "actioning" of fires has not resulted in any actual fighting of fires, they have LITERALLY started talking about climate change, instead of why they aren't putting out fires. I also asked why the government gives community service to convicted eco terrorists, instead of execution, and they get ANGRY. The problem isn't climate change, it's government. The liberal/ndp party of Canada is using mentally unwell activists, and mass fear, to push their destructive globalist policies...chasing people out of the country and into their crime and drug riddled cities. As well, 1.5 BILLION to the CBC every year, and the CBC is going to podcast only...so where does the money go? Well that's weird, the CBC now owns HUGE tracts of land in Canada. So here it is in a nutshell: Liberals/ndp remove the money from fire services, places activists in positions of power, BURNS huge areas of Canada, then funnels billions of our tax dollars through the CBC and buys OUR land at discount prices, all while they print money, run up inflation and make sure that everyone is renting, not owning. How long before people wake up to this FACT???
This isn't the place for that conversation. Take your politics elsewhere.
@@TheStoryTillNow I live in the BC forest. Hate to tell you brother, but these are OUR politics, and OUR problems. Until people stop pretending there's no problem, things are going to get worse and worse. Just delete my comment if it's offensive, and be prepared for there being NO forests left in BC if we can't have the hard conversations, just scrabble on our knees crying about the aftermath.
My husband and I were just talking about this. In 2019 BC spent 800 MILLION on fire services. This year they released the numbers and they reduced it to 32 million. Just follow the money. That is only 4 PERCENT of the 2019 budget. How do they account for that drastic of a reduction? We moved to Alberta because BC is just too unsafe.
@@tombstoneranch69 to be clear I don’t disagree with you, I just try to keep politics out of the comments because it’s too negative.
@@TheStoryTillNow Ah, okay, fair enough. It's just do damn frustrating, I love these forests, and I don't want to think about politics either, I like hockey, hunting and beer. But something has got to change here. I was in Kelowna the day that fire started, and not a single aircraft did anything...even when it jumped the lake. It's just crazy, but I'll respect your wishes. T'was a great video, it just gets me SO ANGRY. My property lost 80% of its trees (so far) to fire, it's really really personal.
It was an honor to have stayed there. Had one of the most amazing nights with a best friend who had recently returned after being away for a long time on an ATV trip. We spent the day trying to find it and it saved us from a wild rain storm that blew in that night. It will be missed dearly seeing the footage was shocking
Thank you for this. Unreal devastation. Imagine the impact on wildlife 😔
Nah, those forests are fine. Visit there 6 months and then 2 years later...
I've seen forests 10 years after an intense wildfire in the Chilcotin region that look more or less the same. Not all wildfires create new growth, especially if it happens repeatedly too soon afterwards.@@Kiyoone
This is an incredible tribute to this site and the people who will work to rebuild it. I loved the historical video sections also. Well done Shaun!
I have driven through recent burns here in Washington State. It is surreal if you have never done so. The level of destruction is insane. There isn't any dirt left. It is all ash/baby powder like material on the ground. There is no sign of life, and it is just hot if the sun is out. The only thing standing is charred tooth picks. The rocks that are normally rounded from thousand of years of erosion are now fragmented sharp chunks from exploding from the extreme heat. Even months after the fire the roots can still be burning. A fire that was put out in September still had roots burning during hunting season. I was traversing along a hills side for a few miles, and came to the edge of a recent fire. As I stopped to get my bearing with my beads, compass, and map I noticed I could see red embers in the tree roots. I called it in once I got to the top of the ridge, and the FS knew. I guess it is common because of the sap in the roots.
***WARNING*** If you are in a burn scar area make damn sure you know if there is rain on the way. Flash floods, and mud slides are almost a guarantee.
~Act accordingly
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Great video! Being a good storyteller and the amazing cinematography of your videos, Shaun have just grown in talent over the years! We've watched (and laughed!) at your earliest videos! You and your parents and now your family must be super proud! It says a lot to be the "chosen" to go places to document what happened and is happening! Love your work! Keep it up!
I think we all know where Shaun's next trip will be headed. Anyone else want to see what's down that unknown road that appeared? Much love from Texas, sorry for the loss of your fire tower and I cant wait to see it stand tall for yall once again.
Amazing storytelling. Beautiful videography. Love the spot. Hope you can do an update video in a few years!
Transitions from past to present were dope!
Great documentary, thank you for sharing. Makes you wonder if fire lookouts were still in use today perhaps the fires would be less devastating.
Can you believe that there are still people who think the government had nothing to do with these fires?
Shaun thank you for showing us what happened. My heart goes out to you and every person that held this dear. Rebuild it and along with Mother Nature many more generations will enjoy this. Remember you had a small but powerful part to play in that.
Thanks for the view of the aftermath ……..something for you to consider……..melting point for aluminum vs temp of fires are drastically different…….something for you to look into ………fires are not your average fires these days
Aluminum melts at 660C, even a small forest fires burn around 800C and this one was huge. A quick google search could have told you this. Stop believing stupid conspiracy theory’s.
🌴Aloha from Hawaii💚Thank you for sharing. Watching both Maui and Kelowna on fire just wore me out.💙 I am a native of Hawaii but lived in T.O. and vacationed in Kelowna. Until my family expired and no longer among the living.💛 May all go well with you, your family and colleagues. Better times are coming.❤️Have a great and safe week...
Let this be a lesson, even though it won’t, that small control fires need to be performed to keep these massive fires from taking place. Environ”mental” groups that keep burns from happening are endangering countless lives and the very forests and creatures they think they are saving.
Finally, somebody gets it. It all needs burning before the forest gets to this late stage. Let natures fires burn when they happen, or it gets out of hand. It will happen anyway, sooner or later. Better sooner & controlled.
I hope you guys can rebuild it, that would make a good series on YT. BUT, you must have at least a 30m clearing, void of any trees/shrubs/bush, between the tower & the tree line of the forest. This will help prevent a fire from getting too close.
This is defnitely part of the plan!
Gonna be a big mudslide pit when the rains eventually come. Awful tragedy.
It looks so different, thanks for the perspective Shaun, its crazy to see the area like this. It will grow back thankfully but its a shame that the tower ended up getting taken out. Thanks for sharing.
Earlier this years i drove to Lytton to do some gold panning. It was right out emotional to see how, even after this long people have not begun to rebuild. I spoke to a tribe elder who told me that he does not believe most people to come back to Lytton...We live in a province that now spend upwards of $500 Million+ on fighting fires all thru the summer. Would it not help if we spend a couple 100 mill on prevention?. remove kindling, plow fire fire "barriers" to lessen the risk to populated areas? It baffles me that cities like Kelowna has to endure this every couple of years...
I'm sure our Government are hard at work trying to figure this problem out. Expect to see an increase in "Carbon" tax on Gasoline (Petrol / Benzin) to offset the pollution of the fires. Perhaps the PM will hike the tax on soft lumber or right out ban lumber that appear to be a threat of burning easier than other types (I am joking).
I loved your video, gave you a follows and smashed the thumbs up button!. Thank You!
This is what gets me the most about these fires. The history we lose in the woods. But also the new stuff we find. I rode through a fire area recently and found so much stuff I had no idea was there. Old roads, cabin sites. tons of old garbage.
Yes, as you see in the video, we discovered several old roads that had been overgrown over the decades... some that according to the maps run deep into the backcountry. Hidden gates and signage too. Looking forward to investigating some of those when it's safe to go in again! And of course, there were all the piles of old garbage that had previously been hidden by the brush around the tower.
@@MattIon maybe collect some of that old "garbage" and restore it, to bring it back to the tower, as the old tins, and anything else that might be of historical value. I made a reddit post looking for an old Osborne Firefinder, maybe we get lucky and find another one.
@@KrazyMitchAdventures there wasn't a whole lot of that that was saveable, it had been out in the elements for so many decades. I think Kim brought home a couple pieces of cutlery and one ceramic bowl that was still intact.
Other than that, I believe most of the steel corner pieces, hinges and handles from the tower were saved.
@@MattIon too bad, its heartbreaking that its gone.. I'll keep looking for a Firefinder for when it is possible to rebuild.
@@KrazyMitchAdventuresthe old Osborne now looks like the T1000 in the steel mill.
I signed up awhile ago to. I live in Alberta now. But will be out to help rebuild this beautiful piece of history.
Another great video Shaun. Thank you for making a record of the 1st visit after the fire. My wife and I were there in 2016 and as others, we morn the loss but are comforted by the fact that it will be rebuilt again. As a 4WDABC member, I will be there to help anyway I can.
I just did a RECON in our largest fire area in COLORADO ! The BERRY BUSHES will BLOOM the BEARS will profit from this AND THE LIFE CYCLE will RECLAIM ALL maybe not in my life time as I am 66 yo but soon Life will EMERGE !!!
Please support your scientific communities that do research on climate change.
Science supports the thought that funds it
@@rasco81 Weird how what we see and experience is the same thing scientists are saying though.. Its not like Im not seeing smoke outside in the middle of saskatchewan nearly every single day this summer for the first time ever
Bullshit
Support anti communism
These fires have all through time
What about the 1910 fire gonna blame that on climate change too
Putting fires out as soon as they start upsets the natural balance of the forest. Eventually the forest will burn with much more devastating effects than if nature had been allowed to take its course.
To all climate commentators; Yup we are in a climate change. The Earth has been alternating between long ice ages and shorter interglacial periods for around 2.6 million years. For the last million years or so these have been happening roughly every 100,000 years - around 90,000 years of ice age followed by a roughly 10,000 year interglacial warm period. The last interglacial period began approximately 12,500 years ago. So we are due for a shift in our climate.
Still a shame that this iconic place burnt down & that a lot of fires are started by human activities.
This was incredible. Way better than even documentaries on History Channel.
Wildfires are normal, arson is not. how many arsonists were at the climate march? Many if not most or all of the fire towers have been decommissioned by the BC Govt and our excellent fire bombers contracts let go by the NDP gove several years ago. Bombers went to South America.
Have family in the Caribou. Fires used to be caught early and taken care of, the planes buzzing overhead in the summers. Natural fires have not increased. During 2020 there were hardly any fires....everyone was at home.
Shaun, this video showed up in my feed. You are such a talented story-teller. Like many others, you made me feel so tender for a place I had no attachment to. Thank you for sharing this.
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My brother worked in the forest service in Washington and ran a crew of college kids every summer clearing brush! It was called “slash and burn”! It gave money to college kids instead of free money and they got a great workout, fresh air and stayed out of trouble! Now they ignore the forest to make it “natural” and it naturally burns! Sad!
Excellent video and story. It will likely be quite a long while before the area re stabilizes with new growth - but new growth is key to the recovery. Thank you for sharing this.
The Northern Americas have a fire-dependent ecosystem. Wildfires protect savanna, plains and pine forests, encourage the reproduction of native wildflowers and coniferous trees, and drive out invasive species that cannot tolerate regular fire. It’s sad that they affect us so greatly, but hopefully we can learn to live with them, educate and prepare for them so our local ecosystems and people can thrive.
Looking at the site from the drone shot, I don't understand why the trees weren't cleared back. Forests burn, and do if we don't clear fire breaks around what we build it is certainly going to burn at some point. Years ago we owned a timeshare at Lake Okanagan Resort across from Kelowna. The first time we went there I said that when, not if there's a fire, this is going to burn. A few weeks ago it did.
So the mosquito netting survived the fire, but metals did not and melted. 🤔
WOW I missed the mosquito netting, I'll have to watch it again. Ty
I wonder if people knew about the Nahatlatch rock sign on the ground before the fire. 15:23
Ive seen satilite pics of over a 100 fires started at once. Thats not global warming that is arson on our beloved forests
Yes it’s called a heatwave and record hot temperatures.
Government mismanagement is to blame. Tax dollars spent on nonsense while everything we hold dear , from family to freedom, is destroyed. The people need to take back their power to manage the country and their lives as they see fit before the government gets too much control.
That is the most touching video I have seen yet and I feel for you guys. My heart goes out for all of you in this tragic time. What the 4-wheel drive association done to preserve history this is a tear jerker. I am very touched by this and all I can do is give my heart and love to you all and send a prayer that this will be overcome. I know one day the tower will be rebuilt and history will live on forever. Shaun I wish I can be a part of you guys but I'm just too far away and my health does not allow me to do what I used to but one thing that can reach further than being there is the soul and the love and the true feeling in the heart the center of what is love for everyone for a special place as this it is something that will stand again and be the most beautiful sight to see and that is one day the tower will be rebuilt and everyone will be able to enjoy what is here for us to see in the beauty of creation.
This is a real touching video and it hit right here in the center of my soul. My heart, love and prayers goes out to all of you. Yes there will be a way and that way is look forward and it will be as grand as it once was. One of the most touching videos I have seen since I subscribed to your channel and very glad I did. You have a very the top of the best channel I know.
So I guess it's obvious now that the Government of British Columbia and the federal government never should have cut the firefighting budget
We need to implement solutions that acknowledge climate change, like creating Beaver or beaver-type wetlands, firebreaks and planting drought and pine beetle resistant trees.
Wow I haven’t been up there since the fires! Unfortunately after the wildfires comes flooding and mudslides next spring as there is no vegetation left to prevent erosion. Best to get prepared.
If the forest would've been managed properly it wouldn't be a waste! Logging aids in helping forests survive
Anyone else want to go down the closed road now that you can see it just to see why it was closed?
So the fires have burnt the valley and now we have another atmospheric river coming through soon . This is gonna be one big washout as all the root mass that would normally hold back the water ,just ain't there no more.
Thank you Shauny you're right we can rebuild. I promise it'll be sgreen again. 🤠👍
Let me know when we can start rebuilding.
WoW ! Aluminum melts at 1221* F . Sad !😔 Thanks For The Ride ! ❤
Batteries contain lead & melt at much lower temps, & all these towers have them, lots of them.
Such a gd waste. The fuel loads could have been reduced substantially with logging. F the Green movement.
the spring rains, if no draught, will wash down a lot of debris and ash that when dried out will be like concrete. how deep is the ground burnt? if it was a fast fire the ground won't be burnt to into sterilization and there will be a big flush of growth. deep burnt ground should do aerial seeding of grasses to stabilize the surface.
Notices? If seen on weather radar the day fires began. All fires in Canada began within a hour of the 1st.
As a retired forester I watch with mixed emotions. The old is gone but new will return. Our western forests evolved with uncontrolled wildfire. I now take the attitude that a forest is not lost but a new forest will be created. If you have any doubts take a trip to Wallace Idaho and see the areas burned in the Great Burn 1910. I look foreword to your group rebuilding the fire lookout.
We will rebuild!
😢😢😢 afterburn that hard those roads will succumb to wash out and that area will no longer be accessible forever
Maybe just maybe Alberta should shut down the tar sands oil. Seeing as it is the dirtiest oil in the entire world.
Western Canadian in South Africa now subscribed.
A great video.
Interesting...
Tin cans and sheet metal siding didn't melt, but the cast aluminum and glass did.
I'm sad that you lost such a beautiful spot. Hopefully it will not be closed for years.. And when did that solar paneled weather station(?) Get put up there ( since you had to clear a path up?) It looked it great condition from my TV but maybe not in reality.????
I hope you are able to rebuild and find a new fire finder quickly. Hopefully we will see less of these fires
The solar panels and the generator in the can below them are part of a WiFi repeater network to provide internet to valley residents. They've been there for several years and even hosted a webcam that anyone could view the tower from. Technicians were able to get up there a few days after the fire (and actually did a lot of road clearing prior to our visit) and started replacing the damaged equipment right away. At the time we were there, they still hadn't replaced the generator, but the new solar panels were up and functioning.
Horrible what Arsonists can do and get away with it.
Didn’t know clouds could commit arson.
Unnatural fire like all but 3 in Ca and Lahaina. Did the cars melt but plastic bins remained, did blue items remain unharmed?... Was this whole Canadian hit have been WEF for smart cities using DEW, microwave.
Get a grip.
The bad thing is will be in heavy rains for the potential of hill slides now because the vegetation is all gone that would hold the hillside up. The grass will grow back fairly quickly but if it truly killed the trees then it will look barren for a long time. (edit: he ended up saying that in the end after I wrote)
Thank you for an excellent ride along on your assessment of your loss. I am far too familiar with this scenario, living in Northern California and having been a avid off-roader and primitive camper for the last 4 decades. Several of the lush forests of the Sierra Nevada, Cascades, Siskiyous, and Coastal Range have been similarly devastated by these types of wildfires in the past 5 years or so. When you travel into an area that for decades you have known as a beautiful forest of majestic 100’ tall sugar pines, ponderosa pines, cedar trees, etc……and it is like a gray moonscape where you can see the bare hillsides for miles, the deer running half a mile away searching for cover, and that acrid smell of burnt pitch. It just seems to suck the air out of your lungs and drain all your energy, and just leave you feeling lost, like this just can’t be real. But you know time will heal the land, the forest will regrow, and the wildlife will return, maybe not in your lifetime, but nature will persevere. I just hope climate change does not accelerate this process and increase this devastation.
The melting temp of aluminum is 660.3C or 1221F. That was a hot fire!
Wildfires typically burn in the 800-1200C range. Since the fire finder was inside a big box made of dried wood and paint, it was probably subjected to the upper end of that range.
Not happy the liberl's cut out funding for smoke spotters
You're crushing it Shaun, amazing video, editing, and storytelling.
It looks a hell of a lot like Maui! I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
Here in the Alberta Prairie's we have a saying among farmers.
"If money can fix it, it's not a problem"
Keeps you sane, that's for sure.