that ending monologue from Austin had me feeling like I was exiting the tunnel at the super bowl listening to “We Ready” by Archie Eversoul ft. Bubba Sparxxxx except instead of football it’s just my next TH-cam video and instead of wearing shoulder pads I’m just in my boxers🔥
Ryan, I’m glad you voiced your thoughts to Colin and Samir, cause this was super interesting. I’ve been noticing tons of plagiarism on TH-cam, particularly with shorts, and like Austin said, imitation isn’t really the sincerest form of flattery.
I find it strange that we can’t even sing a few bars of a song without a copyright strike but others can copy entire scripts of TH-cam videos and it goes untouched.
@@johnny9 The lets say ''inventor'' of the touch grass in games idea did it in Mario as a meme and I did it in GTA 5. I shoutout him out in the video + a link in the annotations + description and reached out to him.
We've had a crazy amount of people copy our videos and go on to gain millions of views. They steal our voice work, thumbnail, and story. Sometimes videos that didn't perform well on our channel, skyrocket on theirs. I acknowledge a lot of the copycats are young. However, seeing them take credit for weeks/months of our hard work is beyond frustrating. The elevator test struggle is real.
I had a similar experience, and the people who copied my works spread rumours and played dirty for years. After a few years of struggling and innovation, I realised that those who stare at you to copy and viciously compete are your biggest "fans" and mirrors and a powerful ‘self-drive’ tool for testing the integrity and sustainability of your creative business system. Our biggest ideas and juicy income somehow always came from what we learnt from the enemy. A coin always has two sides. It's like when we use a coin, we don't really care which side is up but what it can be exchanged for.
Same thing happened to me as well but In my experience I made a video which took me 10 hrs to edit and brainstorm the titles and thumbnail when I post it it went viral for sometime (and for the first time) and then the biggest channel pf my niche in my country copied thumbnail and titles exact 100% and he got 100 times more views than mine which shutdown my video from getting views and hos subscriber think I copied his video which is very frustrating 😢
I watch u guys videos and the amt of effort that goes into them is unreal, it’s horrible that these people have no dignity or respect for others, i really wish all this would stop.
I understand the ease of plagiarism on a platform like Instagram, you only have to screenshot and repost the art you like to steal it (for example). What I don't get is how someone can choose a video like Ryan's, conciously choose to remake the whole thing shot-for-shot, and not have any of their own personality in it? Like that's a LOT of effort to put into something. Even setting up the camera etc takes time. I don't know. I just think it's wild that someone can put so much into making something and not have a shred of originality within it. Or even just not hearing that voice in their head that tells them what they're doing is probably wrong.
but there are also people that copy artists line for line by redrawing it completely and post it as their original work or call it 'inspired work' i think thats also plagiarism
An aspect to consider is Return on Invenstment. If they know that spending the same amount of time and money as Mr. Beast brings them $1M (or more), then they'll do it because it's easier than making something different and/or original.
It's not the effort that is the concern for these people. It's about replicating art in order to replicate the reception from the audience. Creating new and original content is very much high risk for often very little reward. It's a lot safer in their mind to copy something they know works, and will likely work (albeit on a smaller scale) for them. Original ideas and content are also harder work for numerous reasons. Following a formula or recipe can be time-consuming and require energy, sure. But original content can take a lot longer, requires more time and effort for refinement, and also will likely have weaknesses that the already successful works don't have. As someone that designs/produces art for a living, copying would definitely be a lot easier, but you're right about the voice. If I do something that I feel is too close to someone else's work, I will worry about it too much and have to make changes. Both a sense of achievement for doing something good that is original and also a fear of being caught doing something too similar to someone else are both big motivations for creative professionals to be careful.
Plagiarism is a relatively new concept. But, this is on a much larger scale than it was in olden times. As the video notes, it's not just that they'll borrow a few phrases or an idea and put their own take on it, it's that they'll literally take the entire thing and the viewers may not even know that it's been misappropriated. Considering how much work it is just to properly edit a video to remove annoying silences and extraneous words, I definitely feel for the creators that do all that work and then have somebody rip the entire thing off word for word and pass it off as their own.
the copy and paste culture, is usually from creators who overfixate on the numbers and monetization, whereas creators who create original work (by combining different sources they got inspired by), work for the long term, they actually give an f about the viewer and they are the ones who will truly succeed.
I think this is part of why I see advice to focus on building a loyal audience is such a good idea. If you've got a good audience, they'll know to come to your channel for that content and probably saw it before the other channel posted it. I definitely get that having ideas, validating them and then creating the video is a massive amount of work, but that just makes it even worse to be ripping other people off. Using the same idea is one thing, and as far as I'm concerned, that's fair game as long as you do your own script and put your own take on it. There's not that many original ideas that people are actually interested in, but at least do the work.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade Exactly. You have to honor people's choice to spend their valuable time and attention watching you. These creators see viewers as numbers, not as individuals. They are not aiming to build long term relationships based on previous experience, trust, likability, but quickly securing their bag and jumping on the next profitable thing. Viewer sophistication is higher now, they can see who is the real deal and whos not, so they will invest time/attention/money on the one who understands and truly wants to provide them, the best possible experience. But impatience, greed, jealousness overrides their mind and blinds them from what truly matters: Make Viewers Happy.
I love this! Austin's book 'Steal Like an Artist' has had a profound impact on my art journey, completely transforming the way I approach creativity. The concept of 'stealing' in the right way has empowered me to be more open to inspiration from various sources, while still maintaining my unique voice. Austin's guidance has helped me see that great art isn't created in a vacuum, but rather is a culmination of countless influences, remixed and reimagined through our own perspectives.
Yo Zac wasn't expecting to see your comment here. I love your channel it cracks me right up and lifts me up whenever I feel low. Keep up the good work 👏
I love Austin's books! I'm not sure how to prevent people from copying you, but I think it's important to put your head down and do your thing. People who copy everyone are out of touch with themselves and their own audience. But I do think it's a problem that everyone expects you to share your secrets because that's the culture on social media right now. Everyone wants a quick hack, but there are no shortcuts to hard work + time.
Really fascinating! I think people are just so focused on the numbers and getting fame that they're blinded from that the fact that they're stealing and causing harm. Ultimately though, I think the original creators will be the ones who come out on top. History remembers change-makers...not copiers.
I hate it how these things always end up to the platform needing to step in when it's not even a platform problem as much as a people problem. TH-cam is seriously starting to feel like Twitter, where the people on it are more flawed than the platform itself.
was NOT expecting to be featured on this… so cool. being a part of #youtubenewwave has been and is one of the most liberating creative experiences I’ve ever had.
I don't want to disregard the quality of your other uploads, but this is your best video by far. The style, the pacing, animations, interview, it's nuts
Brilliant. Copying isn’t creating and it isn’t even living. When you copy you carve no new paths, you say nothing new or noteworthy, and you don’t get to explore the bounds of your own ability. Having said that, I am so early in my journey that I am trying to draw inspiration from many great creators. I hope I can find my own voice. Great video. Happy to be back watching the main channel!
I was shocked the first time I heard the songs that were used as "inspiration" for the themes in Super Mario Brothers. I didn't think that would be permissible to use something so close to somebody else's work. (Although, I'm not sure what sort of culture was going on in Japan at that time, or what licenses may have been signed)
I grab ideas from lots of videos and see if I can come up with something different from other people. Sometimes it is really hard to come up with something original. But drawing from numerous sources is definitely the best way to create content. My wife was a library technician and she would kick my butt if she thought I ever plagiarized anything. That has kind of rubbed of on me so now I am very careful not to do that.
I'm so glad that y'all had such an amazing conversation with Austin about artistic originality and integrity, it's so crucial to have a deep understanding of this in an era where it's so easy to just do what's popular. Thanks for another banger of a video guys!
Just to add to the last question, people who are just going to chase numbers will also have to choose, are you going to put an inherent ceiling above yourself and only be as good as the creator you’re copying or do you want to make something unique that could get even more numbers, make even more money. So I think eventually the people who decide to just chase numbers will realize they need to be unique to get to their ultimate goal of getting the most amount of money
This is such a great topic to explore further. I also keep seeing 'build in public' narrative we seem to see a lot being pushed in order to grow audience which can be easily replicated. I often think TH-cam could do more to protect originality, however, not sure how copy rights legislation works entirely in general terms.
I checked out some of those plagiarism videos and was stunned that some of them have 20 million subscribers! I'm stunned because I've never heard of them but totally confused about why they need to plagiarise with the resources they must have at their disposal. Someone needs to start a channel that tracks the plagiarism every week, that would be interesting
As someone that’s in the middle of a major redirection of my content and finally seeing success with aligning what I WANT to share stories about and what at least some people WANT to watch, the idea of figuring out my own voice is front and centre of my mind right now. So this video couldn’t have landed at a more perfect time. And now I’m going to dive into New Wave TH-cam to see what’s cooking over there.
"are you going to try to do the easy thing which is "rewarding"? Or are you going to go after the big rewards, which is becoming a real human being" - I'm going to put this on my pinterest
So good. I’m inspired and fired up to go even deeper than before. I love his talking about taking inspiration from the past and fostering a longevity to our creative endeavors. So good.
I was just revisiting your channel earlier in the day and i was like man they haven't posted video in 3 months and boom here comes the notification for the new video
This was a profoundly interesting listen. I didn't expect to take away so many different things that I could apply to myself from a video like this, as someone who isn't a creator. I think that elements of this video are way bigger than just the youtube culture, I'll be trying to look at many forms of content/media with a new lens now.
This is great! I think the tone and content of the video, addressing the importance of art and looking back for inspiration, is slightly broader than the title implies.
Great points, the thing is that people want easy path, and it's hard for new creators to push the things with being new and creative, while they see many others just being copycats and achieving the success faster... it takes some strength and consistency :)
its always refreshing to see new and original content, it motivates us all - there is a stark contrast between inspiration and plagiarism... i hope i get the right side of that coin in my videos 🍔
It always was, but that's why you use the improv rule of taking what they've given and adding something to it or twisting it in some way. There are only so many different ideas that make any sense, but it is a pretty large number.
From how much TH-cam education I consume I’ve just become accustomed to getting inspiration from others ideas, not 100% copying it but putting your own spin on it. I constantly hear the typical “you don’t have to reinvent the wheel” or “do what is working for others” but I’ve never taken it as “just copy and paste what others are doing.” Now the examples of thumbnails I saw in your video, that is just straight up stealing, but like you said, who would stop if that’s what’s working?
I remember reading this guy's book in summer of 2013. blew my teenage mind at the time. watching this video was a really cool way for me to close that loop nearly a decade later.
this happened to me with a channel bigger than mine, not much u can do about it. that’s just youtube, i just always push to make better videos than my copycats
Great Interview. Just what I needed to take away some inspiration for my channel. I know in my community I am imitated often so this knowledge I can use moving forward! Thanks
the casey/tom sachs reference is such a brilliant point. I remember the first time I saw it and it blew my mind how similar it was. As a guy from London, growing up in the 90s - so much of the cut edit style I have used was influenced by Guy Ritchie movies. And for a while I used to be worried about that. But then even he was of course influenced by early Tarantino movies etc. You guys have summed it up perfectly, great video.
Perfectly put explanation in terms of creation; Really helpful for those struggling with imposter-syndrome as hearing him describe my creative process and basically say 'yes, that is creative' was such a relief
That quote really struck a chord with me. "For what good shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world, but lose his soul"? Its a sad turn for the worst in the creative world.
I deal with this problem even in my small niche. I have made some thumbnails that perform very well, and have recently seen copycats making nearly identical thumbs. In the end, the video quality is what keeps my channel relevant. I have also found some direct reuploads of my content. Not cool.
That Spotter plug 👌 a relatable service that your viewers will actually end up using or setting as a goal to reach. Then the quick elevator-pitch that explains the why/how. Iykyk.
The one more Google search thing reminded me of Paul Rabils, "do one more", this year I quit lacrosse to focus on creating content, hoping it can pay off 🤞
Glad to see you back on the main channel guys! Great guest and excellent book everyone should read. I think what this channel offers is a good reminder to older TH-camrs for what they already know and new knowledge for a lot of the younger TH-camrs who have never heard of these authors and artists. The whole thing about learning who your favorite artists favorite artist is, is one of the best tips for how to go back further for even deeper, richer inspiration.
Been thinking about this for quite some time since I started my channel. The main way I try to avoid making content that's too similar to others is mainly with my thumbnails, especially on TH-cam you've gotta find a way to stand out and be original whilst trying to not copy others 'too much', wheras I wouldn't personally say I don't really have copycat content, I 100% have channels that I try to get within my "scenius" , noneteless, in all honesty, my content is sadly never 100% made by just me. Whether it'd be the cutscenes of video games, the game itself, the screenshots or even the video editng software I use, getting a 100% self-made video takes a serious amount of time and dedication. Anyways, great video, really interesting!🙌
The same thing happens in a lot of areas. My mom makes and designs decorative signs for your house and sells them on Amazon. She’s constantly copy by Chinese sellers who blatantly steal the designs that she made. Apparently people in this world today can’t come up with their own stuff and have to steal from others.
I've been working as a designer for over 30 years. Selling my designs direct to the public. The strongest defence is to keep producing. The journey of being a professional designer is difficult. Its also not always rewarding with ups and downs. And as a small business/sole creator there is the continuous work of promoting our work. A pretender or a plagiarist is intrinsically lazy and looking for short cuts - I've seen so many of them come and go. The first few times it happened I was stressed out of my brain. But now I know they just fade away. They don't have the passion and the gumption to get through the lows. They won't be there for long.
Recently got into movies from the 50s-60s (Akira Kurosawa, Sergio Leone) - there's a certain charm to their creativity that ultimately inspired franchises like Star Wars/John Wick, and our phones are better than anything they had back in the day.
Nice video! Thing is there is a massive difference between inspiration and stealing. It’s one thing getting inspiration from someone else’s work and downright copying it!!!
Great vid - Creators should take note of what Austin Kleon is saying here. I am in NO way a religious person, but the quote "for what good is it for man to gain the whole world and lose his soul". PREACH brother! People who lack any iota of originality and deliberately "Rip Off" others on TH-cam should be barred from TH-cam altogether, IMHO.
Well, this is happening in all platforms, Instagram, TikTok, TH-cam, you name it. This is what happens when people grow up without having to really work and figure it out, people become lazy and it´s just easier to start copying rather than trying to be original. I`d be ashamed knowing that I have to start copying others just to have some level of fame, I`d rather focus on something else and be better rather than a failure. But that´s just me...
Something that I think you guys are aware of but might not be entirely up on the similarities is how helpful your TH-cam centric talks are for any online creator. I make clothing through an Instagram account that has somewhat exploded the past year and listening to your episodes and topics have helped me so much. Its a very isolating space to exist in (especially when you live in the Midwest), so having these conversations to listen to make me feel less alone in it all. Thanks guys
I love this! Thanks for talking about something that is happening right in front of our eyes currently. Great stuff, especially how one can form originality and create the own voice.
In my opinion, the sharing of sounds in apps like TikTok and Instagram are the main culprit for convincing people that plagarism is ok. I've seen the same video using the same sound dozens and dozens of time, with each one pretending they're the original creator of the sound. So disingenous and gross. Reasons like this are why TikTok and Instagram Reels will never be monetizable in any meaningful way.
Great video. A lot to TH-cam feels incredibly stale because of the copy pasting, and some niches are so far gone with a lack of integrity (finance / how to make money) that it feels more like a scam people have figured out to make money than actual content
I have to disagree with his perspective on “testing other people’s stuff out” and how hard it is to practice in private. Taking someone else’s work the way that guy did, didn’t test something out or practice. He let Ryan do something that proved to work, then redid it for himself. Practicing insinuates a bigger possibility of failure. This guy copying a video that already proved to work SO directly, took out all the risk. It’s blatantly trying to steal someone’s work.
This was a big issue in Korean YT market. There were two creators who 'EDUCATED' to steal and made a digital product that would optimize 'stealing' of the well performing contents and make profits doing so. The public FINALLY was fed up with their BS and asked for some accountability. Good to see a content that brings attention to the ethical practices of content creation.
Growing up and throughout school we were always taught to use our own words. If we copied word for word on an assignment it was an immediate F. Finding inspiration from others work is the pathway to finding your own voice. I personally don’t understand or agree with taking someone else’s idea and copying it exactly. It should be see how everyone else has done it and how can I then improve upon it or make it different and my own. Give credit to those who have taken the initiative to create something that others want to mimic, and do your best to do the same. Just my humble opinion, really enjoying the topics you’ve been covering on your other channel as well.
When I first wanted to start my channel, I was scared because there were already two creators who were doing exactly what I wanted to do, and in fact, they had inspired me to want to do TH-cam in the first place. One of my top priorities is making sure the ideas, and execution of said ideas, are entirely unique to me and my personality, even if the concept is something that has been done before. Loved this video, this is a subject that is really only mentioned in passing, I love the in-depth look you guys gave us.
that ending monologue from Austin had me feeling like I was exiting the tunnel at the super bowl listening to “We Ready” by Archie Eversoul ft. Bubba Sparxxxx except instead of football it’s just my next TH-cam video and instead of wearing shoulder pads I’m just in my boxers🔥
Was good my guy Ryan
I love your videos so much!🎉
hey Ryan!
Ryan, I’m glad you voiced your thoughts to Colin and Samir, cause this was super interesting. I’ve been noticing tons of plagiarism on TH-cam, particularly with shorts, and like Austin said, imitation isn’t really the sincerest form of flattery.
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It feels so good to see Colin and Samir back on the main channel. There explanations and editing is fantastic
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Do they have a second channel?
I like the whole new approach
Something I never talk about is how 5 of my copycats reached 100k subs in just 3 months copying my series of videos in full from start to finish.
I find it strange that we can’t even sing a few bars of a song without a copyright strike but others can copy entire scripts of TH-cam videos and it goes untouched.
I see you stole like an artist with touch grass video
@@johnny9 The lets say ''inventor'' of the touch grass in games idea did it in Mario as a meme and I did it in GTA 5. I shoutout him out in the video + a link in the annotations + description and reached out to him.
Don't they have names, let shame them for that shit they pulled off. WTF
Because you are the first, biggest and best and only original GT5 youtuber 🤔and you didn't get the GTA5 concept from other youtubers you saw🤫
We've had a crazy amount of people copy our videos and go on to gain millions of views. They steal our voice work, thumbnail, and story. Sometimes videos that didn't perform well on our channel, skyrocket on theirs. I acknowledge a lot of the copycats are young. However, seeing them take credit for weeks/months of our hard work is beyond frustrating. The elevator test struggle is real.
That sounds tough...
I had a similar experience, and the people who copied my works spread rumours and played dirty for years. After a few years of struggling and innovation, I realised that those who stare at you to copy and viciously compete are your biggest "fans" and mirrors and a powerful ‘self-drive’ tool for testing the integrity and sustainability of your creative business system. Our biggest ideas and juicy income somehow always came from what we learnt from the enemy. A coin always has two sides. It's like when we use a coin, we don't really care which side is up but what it can be exchanged for.
Same thing happened to me as well but In my experience I made a video which took me 10 hrs to edit and brainstorm the titles and thumbnail when I post it it went viral for sometime (and for the first time) and then the biggest channel pf my niche in my country copied thumbnail and titles exact 100% and he got 100 times more views than mine which shutdown my video from getting views and hos subscriber think I copied his video which is very frustrating 😢
Sucks to suck they just did it better 💁🏽♂️
I watch u guys videos and the amt of effort that goes into them is unreal, it’s horrible that these people have no dignity or respect for others, i really wish all this would stop.
Thanks for this guys! We definitely take inspiration from other channels, but you’re right, there’s a line not to cross. The elevator test is great 😂
Yeah I thought that was a funny, but helpful way of putting it
I understand the ease of plagiarism on a platform like Instagram, you only have to screenshot and repost the art you like to steal it (for example). What I don't get is how someone can choose a video like Ryan's, conciously choose to remake the whole thing shot-for-shot, and not have any of their own personality in it? Like that's a LOT of effort to put into something. Even setting up the camera etc takes time. I don't know. I just think it's wild that someone can put so much into making something and not have a shred of originality within it. Or even just not hearing that voice in their head that tells them what they're doing is probably wrong.
That is a lot of effort to put into a video, remembering the shots, what words he said….. like I’m good I rather come up with my own idea and shots
but there are also people that copy artists line for line by redrawing it completely and post it as their original work or call it 'inspired work' i think thats also plagiarism
An aspect to consider is Return on Invenstment. If they know that spending the same amount of time and money as Mr. Beast brings them $1M (or more), then they'll do it because it's easier than making something different and/or original.
Remember people who copied others homework or tests? That’s the mentality. 1:1 = I win.
It’s lame.
It's not the effort that is the concern for these people. It's about replicating art in order to replicate the reception from the audience. Creating new and original content is very much high risk for often very little reward. It's a lot safer in their mind to copy something they know works, and will likely work (albeit on a smaller scale) for them.
Original ideas and content are also harder work for numerous reasons. Following a formula or recipe can be time-consuming and require energy, sure. But original content can take a lot longer, requires more time and effort for refinement, and also will likely have weaknesses that the already successful works don't have.
As someone that designs/produces art for a living, copying would definitely be a lot easier, but you're right about the voice. If I do something that I feel is too close to someone else's work, I will worry about it too much and have to make changes. Both a sense of achievement for doing something good that is original and also a fear of being caught doing something too similar to someone else are both big motivations for creative professionals to be careful.
I think this topic is really close to a lot of creators' hearts and there's a whole lot of unknowns that people need to decide. Thanks for the video!
Plagiarism is a relatively new concept. But, this is on a much larger scale than it was in olden times. As the video notes, it's not just that they'll borrow a few phrases or an idea and put their own take on it, it's that they'll literally take the entire thing and the viewers may not even know that it's been misappropriated.
Considering how much work it is just to properly edit a video to remove annoying silences and extraneous words, I definitely feel for the creators that do all that work and then have somebody rip the entire thing off word for word and pass it off as their own.
the copy and paste culture, is usually from creators who overfixate on the numbers and monetization, whereas creators who create original work (by combining different sources they got inspired by), work for the long term, they actually give an f about the viewer and they are the ones who will truly succeed.
I think this is part of why I see advice to focus on building a loyal audience is such a good idea. If you've got a good audience, they'll know to come to your channel for that content and probably saw it before the other channel posted it.
I definitely get that having ideas, validating them and then creating the video is a massive amount of work, but that just makes it even worse to be ripping other people off. Using the same idea is one thing, and as far as I'm concerned, that's fair game as long as you do your own script and put your own take on it. There's not that many original ideas that people are actually interested in, but at least do the work.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade Exactly. You have to honor people's choice to spend their valuable time and attention watching you.
These creators see viewers as numbers, not as individuals. They are not aiming to build long term relationships based on previous experience, trust, likability, but quickly securing their bag and jumping on the next profitable thing.
Viewer sophistication is higher now, they can see who is the real deal and whos not, so they will invest time/attention/money on the one who understands and truly wants to provide them, the best possible experience.
But impatience, greed, jealousness overrides their mind and blinds them from what truly matters:
Make Viewers Happy.
I love this! Austin's book 'Steal Like an Artist' has had a profound impact on my art journey, completely transforming the way I approach creativity. The concept of 'stealing' in the right way has empowered me to be more open to inspiration from various sources, while still maintaining my unique voice. Austin's guidance has helped me see that great art isn't created in a vacuum, but rather is a culmination of countless influences, remixed and reimagined through our own perspectives.
Also don't miss out on his other fantastic books like 'Show Your Work!' and 'Keep Going,' which are equally insightful and inspiring.
damn is it good to have a new main channel video, you guys and the team have knocked it out on the park on this one!
Amazing message and such beautiful graphics in this gents!
Yo Zac wasn't expecting to see your comment here. I love your channel it cracks me right up and lifts me up whenever I feel low. Keep up the good work 👏
"The reason AI images look so uncannily good is that everything is so mediocre right now" - love this.
Fantastic video! Nice to see you guys back on
Very thought provoking conversation
I love Austin's books! I'm not sure how to prevent people from copying you, but I think it's important to put your head down and do your thing. People who copy everyone are out of touch with themselves and their own audience. But I do think it's a problem that everyone expects you to share your secrets because that's the culture on social media right now. Everyone wants a quick hack, but there are no shortcuts to hard work + time.
Really fascinating! I think people are just so focused on the numbers and getting fame that they're blinded from that the fact that they're stealing and causing harm. Ultimately though, I think the original creators will be the ones who come out on top. History remembers change-makers...not copiers.
I'm glad you guys are talking about this, really. I do think the platform needs to step up to enforce better anti-plagiarism policies.
I hate it how these things always end up to the platform needing to step in when it's not even a platform problem as much as a people problem.
TH-cam is seriously starting to feel like Twitter, where the people on it are more flawed than the platform itself.
was NOT expecting to be featured on this… so cool. being a part of #youtubenewwave has been and is one of the most liberating creative experiences I’ve ever had.
I don't want to disregard the quality of your other uploads, but this is your best video by far. The style, the pacing, animations, interview, it's nuts
Brilliant. Copying isn’t creating and it isn’t even living. When you copy you carve no new paths, you say nothing new or noteworthy, and you don’t get to explore the bounds of your own ability.
Having said that, I am so early in my journey that I am trying to draw inspiration from many great creators. I hope I can find my own voice. Great video. Happy to be back watching the main channel!
As a jazz musician it’s fun to hear the essence of what we do in the context of another genre
I was shocked the first time I heard the songs that were used as "inspiration" for the themes in Super Mario Brothers. I didn't think that would be permissible to use something so close to somebody else's work. (Although, I'm not sure what sort of culture was going on in Japan at that time, or what licenses may have been signed)
I grab ideas from lots of videos and see if I can come up with something different from other people. Sometimes it is really hard to come up with something original. But drawing from numerous sources is definitely the best way to create content. My wife was a library technician and she would kick my butt if she thought I ever plagiarized anything. That has kind of rubbed of on me so now I am very careful not to do that.
I'm so glad that y'all had such an amazing conversation with Austin about artistic originality and integrity, it's so crucial to have a deep understanding of this in an era where it's so easy to just do what's popular. Thanks for another banger of a video guys!
Just to add to the last question, people who are just going to chase numbers will also have to choose, are you going to put an inherent ceiling above yourself and only be as good as the creator you’re copying or do you want to make something unique that could get even more numbers, make even more money. So I think eventually the people who decide to just chase numbers will realize they need to be unique to get to their ultimate goal of getting the most amount of money
This video made me feel warm and save, have no idea why. Just thank you for the guest and the conversation
Been running into this recently and have been thinking about this a lot. Glad you guys are diving into it!
This is such a great topic to explore further. I also keep seeing 'build in public' narrative we seem to see a lot being pushed in order to grow audience which can be easily replicated. I often think TH-cam could do more to protect originality, however, not sure how copy rights legislation works entirely in general terms.
I checked out some of those plagiarism videos and was stunned that some of them have 20 million subscribers! I'm stunned because I've never heard of them but totally confused about why they need to plagiarise with the resources they must have at their disposal. Someone needs to start a channel that tracks the plagiarism every week, that would be interesting
So good!!! Loved the animations too. Thank you
🚀 yes 😊
As someone that’s in the middle of a major redirection of my content and finally seeing success with aligning what I WANT to share stories about and what at least some people WANT to watch, the idea of figuring out my own voice is front and centre of my mind right now.
So this video couldn’t have landed at a more perfect time.
And now I’m going to dive into New Wave TH-cam to see what’s cooking over there.
"are you going to try to do the easy thing which is "rewarding"? Or are you going to go after the big rewards, which is becoming a real human being" - I'm going to put this on my pinterest
So good. I’m inspired and fired up to go even deeper than before. I love his talking about taking inspiration from the past and fostering a longevity to our creative endeavors. So good.
I was just revisiting your channel earlier in the day and i was like man they haven't posted video in 3 months and boom here comes the notification for the new video
Thank you Colin and Samir for putting out such great content!!
This is good for the channel
This was a profoundly interesting listen. I didn't expect to take away so many different things that I could apply to myself from a video like this, as someone who isn't a creator. I think that elements of this video are way bigger than just the youtube culture, I'll be trying to look at many forms of content/media with a new lens now.
ok!! I see you!!! I love how you guys are distinguishing your main channel content from your podcasts now held in creator support- I’m here for it!!
This is great! I think the tone and content of the video, addressing the importance of art and looking back for inspiration, is slightly broader than the title implies.
Great points, the thing is that people want easy path, and it's hard for new creators to push the things with being new and creative, while they see many others just being copycats and achieving the success faster... it takes some strength and consistency :)
Anyone that has ever created content should watch this video
Lots of valuable information for creators! Thank you for creating a video about this.
9:58 facts!!! Having that special/private thing that isnt shared in detail is soooo important ✨
It’s incredibly annoying indeed. Especially when you go out of your way to be different.
Colin and Samir uploaded this at such a great time for me! Currently, I am struggling with original ideas, and this video will help me a ton.
I absolutely love this conversation, as it applies to any business and endeavor one sets their mind to create meaningfully!
its always refreshing to see new and original content, it motivates us all - there is a stark contrast between inspiration and plagiarism... i hope i get the right side of that coin in my videos 🍔
Creative imitation is good
Being original is so hard now a days. But it's good to see how creative input is best when it comes from many different places.
It always was, but that's why you use the improv rule of taking what they've given and adding something to it or twisting it in some way. There are only so many different ideas that make any sense, but it is a pretty large number.
Really powerful conversation! Thank you guys for this!
Seeing a ton of theft in the golf world lately. Great video.
From how much TH-cam education I consume I’ve just become accustomed to getting inspiration from others ideas, not 100% copying it but putting your own spin on it. I constantly hear the typical “you don’t have to reinvent the wheel” or “do what is working for others” but I’ve never taken it as “just copy and paste what others are doing.” Now the examples of thumbnails I saw in your video, that is just straight up stealing, but like you said, who would stop if that’s what’s working?
Great video guys! Enjoying the videos that make me ponder.
I remember reading this guy's book in summer of 2013. blew my teenage mind at the time. watching this video was a really cool way for me to close that loop nearly a decade later.
Legend says Colin is still staring into the camera
this happened to me with a channel bigger than mine, not much u can do about it. that’s just youtube, i just always push to make better videos than my copycats
Finally after 3 months ❤❤
This interview is so refreshing. Glad you guys are covering this topic!
Great Interview. Just what I needed to take away some inspiration for my channel. I know in my community I am imitated often so this knowledge I can use moving forward! Thanks
No Way! Clicked on this as soon as I could!!! 🔥🔥🔥
That's why I love making fun of things. I can transform anyone's content and break it down to it's bare-bone elements and poke fun at it.
How'd you get so many subs😮
@@YaBoyEmoy prob TH-cam shorts
the casey/tom sachs reference is such a brilliant point. I remember the first time I saw it and it blew my mind how similar it was. As a guy from London, growing up in the 90s - so much of the cut edit style I have used was influenced by Guy Ritchie movies. And for a while I used to be worried about that. But then even he was of course influenced by early Tarantino movies etc. You guys have summed it up perfectly, great video.
Perfectly put explanation in terms of creation; Really helpful for those struggling with imposter-syndrome as hearing him describe my creative process and basically say 'yes, that is creative' was such a relief
That quote really struck a chord with me. "For what good shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world, but lose his soul"? Its a sad turn for the worst in the creative world.
I deal with this problem even in my small niche. I have made some thumbnails that perform very well, and have recently seen copycats making nearly identical thumbs. In the end, the video quality is what keeps my channel relevant. I have also found some direct reuploads of my content. Not cool.
That Spotter plug 👌 a relatable service that your viewers will actually end up using or setting as a goal to reach. Then the quick elevator-pitch that explains the why/how.
Iykyk.
Cole Hastings just made a great video on this. Love that this issue is being spotlighted
The one more Google search thing reminded me of Paul Rabils, "do one more", this year I quit lacrosse to focus on creating content, hoping it can pay off 🤞
Glad to see you back on the main channel guys! Great guest and excellent book everyone should read. I think what this channel offers is a good reminder to older TH-camrs for what they already know and new knowledge for a lot of the younger TH-camrs who have never heard of these authors and artists. The whole thing about learning who your favorite artists favorite artist is, is one of the best tips for how to go back further for even deeper, richer inspiration.
welcome back! absolutely loved this video
Been thinking about this for quite some time since I started my channel. The main way I try to avoid making content that's too similar to others is mainly with my thumbnails, especially on TH-cam you've gotta find a way to stand out and be original whilst trying to not copy others 'too much', wheras I wouldn't personally say I don't really have copycat content, I 100% have channels that I try to get within my "scenius" , noneteless, in all honesty, my content is sadly never 100% made by just me. Whether it'd be the cutscenes of video games, the game itself, the screenshots or even the video editng software I use, getting a 100% self-made video takes a serious amount of time and dedication.
Anyways, great video, really interesting!🙌
The same thing happens in a lot of areas. My mom makes and designs decorative signs for your house and sells them on Amazon. She’s constantly copy by Chinese sellers who blatantly steal the designs that she made. Apparently people in this world today can’t come up with their own stuff and have to steal from others.
I've been working as a designer for over 30 years. Selling my designs direct to the public. The strongest defence is to keep producing. The journey of being a professional designer is difficult. Its also not always rewarding with ups and downs. And as a small business/sole creator there is the continuous work of promoting our work.
A pretender or a plagiarist is intrinsically lazy and looking for short cuts - I've seen so many of them come and go. The first few times it happened I was stressed out of my brain. But now I know they just fade away. They don't have the passion and the gumption to get through the lows. They won't be there for long.
1:12 good moment, really took my eyes away from my hands to the screen and gave me a smile. I almost tried to say hello back!
Recently got into movies from the 50s-60s (Akira Kurosawa, Sergio Leone) - there's a certain charm to their creativity that ultimately inspired franchises like Star Wars/John Wick, and our phones are better than anything they had back in the day.
The main channel is back!
SO much gold here. Fantastic video fellas. Feeling so inspired
It's like in school, you aren't supposed to use Wikipedia as a source, but you can look at the sources of where that info came from
Nice video! Thing is there is a massive difference between inspiration and stealing. It’s one thing getting inspiration from someone else’s work and downright copying it!!!
This is really high quality. Thanks for this, felt like a documentary and I loved it.
You can tell the difference between a video that took 3 months to make and one that took 2 weeks. Nice video guys!
Great vid - Creators should take note of what Austin Kleon is saying here. I am in NO way a religious person, but the quote "for what good is it for man to gain the whole world and lose his soul". PREACH brother! People who lack any iota of originality and deliberately "Rip Off" others on TH-cam should be barred from TH-cam altogether, IMHO.
Well, this is happening in all platforms, Instagram, TikTok, TH-cam, you name it.
This is what happens when people grow up without having to really work and figure it out, people become lazy and it´s just easier to start copying rather than trying to be original.
I`d be ashamed knowing that I have to start copying others just to have some level of fame, I`d rather focus on something else and be better rather than a failure.
But that´s just me...
Great conversation
Something that I think you guys are aware of but might not be entirely up on the similarities is how helpful your TH-cam centric talks are for any online creator. I make clothing through an Instagram account that has somewhat exploded the past year and listening to your episodes and topics have helped me so much. Its a very isolating space to exist in (especially when you live in the Midwest), so having these conversations to listen to make me feel less alone in it all. Thanks guys
This really spoke to me and I thank you all for bringing this video to me. Wish you all the best.
This was a brilliant episode. Love the concept of the "scenius". Thank you, guys!
I love this! Thanks for talking about something that is happening right in front of our eyes currently. Great stuff, especially how one can form originality and create the own voice.
In my opinion, the sharing of sounds in apps like TikTok and Instagram are the main culprit for convincing people that plagarism is ok. I've seen the same video using the same sound dozens and dozens of time, with each one pretending they're the original creator of the sound. So disingenous and gross. Reasons like this are why TikTok and Instagram Reels will never be monetizable in any meaningful way.
Colin and Samir is the pinnacle of wholesome youtube
Thanks for making this episode! #1 reason why I don't want to be on TH-cam---constant plagiarism.
Great video. A lot to TH-cam feels incredibly stale because of the copy pasting, and some niches are so far gone with a lack of integrity (finance / how to make money) that it feels more like a scam people have figured out to make money than actual content
“What good is it to gain the world, but lose your soul”… that’s a bar 🔥
Austin and his book "Steal like an artist" is one of my fav author and book.
Great video! Love your books Austin ✌🏼
I have to disagree with his perspective on “testing other people’s stuff out” and how hard it is to practice in private. Taking someone else’s work the way that guy did, didn’t test something out or practice. He let Ryan do something that proved to work, then redid it for himself. Practicing insinuates a bigger possibility of failure. This guy copying a video that already proved to work SO directly, took out all the risk. It’s blatantly trying to steal someone’s work.
Ive had the same thing happen to me, good video guys
This was a big issue in Korean YT market. There were two creators who 'EDUCATED' to steal and made a digital product that would optimize 'stealing' of the well performing contents and make profits doing so. The public FINALLY was fed up with their BS and asked for some accountability. Good to see a content that brings attention to the ethical practices of content creation.
Guys im a starter small youtuber and i adore your shows and watch em all (; keep em comin
Read this book twice in the last 2 weeks. The timing of this video couldn’t be any better
i've missed your voices. welcome back cutie pies :D
Growing up and throughout school we were always taught to use our own words. If we copied word for word on an assignment it was an immediate F. Finding inspiration from others work is the pathway to finding your own voice. I personally don’t understand or agree with taking someone else’s idea and copying it exactly. It should be see how everyone else has done it and how can I then improve upon it or make it different and my own. Give credit to those who have taken the initiative to create something that others want to mimic, and do your best to do the same. Just my humble opinion, really enjoying the topics you’ve been covering on your other channel as well.
When I first wanted to start my channel, I was scared because there were already two creators who were doing exactly what I wanted to do, and in fact, they had inspired me to want to do TH-cam in the first place. One of my top priorities is making sure the ideas, and execution of said ideas, are entirely unique to me and my personality, even if the concept is something that has been done before. Loved this video, this is a subject that is really only mentioned in passing, I love the in-depth look you guys gave us.
There are some definite "gems" in this conversation for sure!! Thanks for this!