I used to find this quote so confusing until I realized that to borrow, you take it, but it remains the original creators possession. When you steal, you take it and make it your own.
Dont just steal from one artist. Steal from load. Take what you like and ditch what you dont. Give it enough time and your patch work of influences will become your own style.
Exactly. We are not wholly unique - our uniqueness is simply a combination of others formed into something unique. Don’t be like Greta Van Fleet and dictate your art from 1 source
This is really how people sound original. I have thought about this for a while. People who sound just like the most popular thing have a talent to do that but are in a crowded field of sound alike . The ones who try to imitate their favorite artists but it comes out sounding original get all the attention. It not only sounds original but also sounds good. How did they do it? They are good musicians but they're not good at imitating exactly what they hear.
A lot of people have responded positive to this comment. Really the problem is people are scared to be themselves . There is so much information now to help people become better musicians and so much access to inspirational music from the last 100 years to pull from. People need to look inside themselves and only concentrate on music that makes themselves happy. Nothing else matters in the long run.
We need to start to forget about originality and coming w something from the scratch, fixating on being 100% original only generates frustration and unnecessary comparisons
Good artists are able to integrate existing elements and make them sound organic and make them their own. They will stick out from the infinite crowd of solid or bad artists that copy styles and bring little or nothing original to the table. It's always that way. Maybe especially in the EDM area. A new trend, everybody's hopping on the hype train and you end up with thousands and thousands of simliar sounding tracks that cannot even be distinguished because DJs and producers usually don't put their own vocals on the tracks.
Anytime I get so inspired by something that it makes me want to imitate it, I never get worried it’ll be too similar cus I know that pretty early on it’s gonna turn into something else whether it be due to my inability to copy something well or my squirrelesque attention span chasing down some idea that emerges. I always end up somewhere that barely resembles the inspiration, if at all.
Great video Harrison, really inspiring! I'd also like to recommend the book "Steal Like An Artist" by Austin Kleon which touches on some similar topics as this video 🤘
The gatekeeping is REAL, especially on the tube. The big fish don't like other fish getting big. The fish that want to eat, repeat this for them for a piece of the lunch. Get out of the pond, make music, make videos, make them for you first.
Francis Ford Coppola has said (and I'm highly paraphrasing here) that copying is important to do for an artist in the beginning, because it continues a connection that the thing you're copying made with you, so it's starting from something genuine. And when you've explored that thing in earnest, other stuff will come up and eventually you can't help but shape it into something new that is undoubtedly your own voice.
At first, what you were saying pissed me off. The most prolific creative period I have ever had as a musician where I not only wrote the most music I ever had, but wrote the most music that I absolutely loved, that I ever had, was after a long period of time where I avoided listening to any music whatsoever outside of what I heard in movies or tv shows I watched. I went from listening to all kinds of music all the time for most of my life to listening to nothing. For at least a few years. And that freed me from comparing my music to anything else and freed me to create music that was my music and not someone else's music or me trying to make someone else's music or be someone else. While I don't wholesale disagree with you now, I think you left something out. Or at least didn't articulate it in a way that resonated with me. So I say yes, take influence everywhere you can, but don't be limited by it. The point is to use what you've heard to learn how to express your own heart and imagination.
We’re talking about success here and how it’s received by the public, not about making art you’re totally proud of. Those who find mainstream success most of the time had no idea that they would be successful and a lot of times even have a dislike for the art they make that the public eats up
_“Good artists borrow, great artists steal"_ -Pablo "Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la Santísima Trinidad Ruiz y" Picasso
This reminds us that creativity is often inspired by what came before us, and that it's okay to draw inspiration from the works of others. We should not be afraid to borrow, to build on, or even to steal from our artistic predecessors to create something truly unique and meaningful. Great job Aflo Media.
Elitist thinking can be harmful. Some kind of fans demand originality so much, they cannot enjoy stuff that sounds similar. But it will always sound like that. It's easy to fall into that trap. Almost automatically, when you hear a new song, you will compare it to other songs you've heard before and you're rating will not be separated from these other works. Because you cannot like every single song released, you should like what you like and that's it. Some artists are more innovative, others sound like other artists. It doesn't matter, it's just an ego thing to show off how great your music taste is and how much better it is than the taste of the masses who listen to unoriginal, bland, manufactured artists. I like to pick out a couple or a couple more artists from many genres. That's more than enough, and you cannot like every artist anyway because they are so different. They don't have to invent the wheel, I personally have to like them. Innovation is great but it doesn't guarantee that I like the music then. Taking elements of different genres that work and make it a new thing is great. I think of Nu Metal. Take Rap, take metal, take pop and make it a new genre. Obviously it uses ingredients that existed before but in a new exciting mixture.
i wouldn't say it's about being bad at copying someone else. It's more about copying a bunch of artists. Then it doesn't matter if you're good or bad at copying them, you've already made it your own thing by having many different influences specific to you
Drake has done this for years now. Every time there's a new sound in rap he tries it out and does his version of it. It keeps things interesting and keeps his music evolving. His take on dance music with Honestly Nevermind was probably his most creative work since More Life.
if you genuinely think Greta Van Fleet still ''just copy Led Zep'' you haven't heard Battle At Garden's Gate. I get the criticism back when they first started gaining popularity with Highway Tune... but it's been years now, get over it, people
i write creatively and a similar thing came up that sort of goes along with this: you don't need to make something as original as possible, because when you're reading what you look for is familiar and fun tropes to enjoy ad infinitum. you add your writing style and characters and all that plus a story, yeah, but you're writing is going to have better structure and stronger legs to stand on if it has the framework of ideas and tropes before it that you can just do well and have fun with. same thing applies to music, i think. look at what you have and put it together in your own way
One of the best (or arguably the best) guitar player of our generation John Mayer once said: "It’s my failure to sound like my heroes that’s allowed me to sound like myself.”
Look at Kanye West now. Stealing samples from other artist and makes it his own. No one even knows the “Ooooh” part from Goodmorning is from Elton John
Another great example of this is japanese designer Yohji Yamamoto. His advice is to copy again and again until you are good enough to make a product that is part consequence of the copying and part yourself
Unnecessary comment about Greta Van Fleet: I do totally agree that their first EP and Album are very, very clearly Led Zeppelin inspired, but I do totally think they came into their own style with their second album. Definitely still got some Zeppelin influence, but it feels a lot more original. Great vid!
Jonny cash’s cover of hurt is a good example of this, making it into something entirely different. Also not music related, Hidetaka Miyazaki has taken a lot of inspiration from other sources, berserk being a major influence on his work, while making something wholly distinct.
This may sound crazy to some but.. I REALLY feel like kendrick stole from Eminem and Lupe Fiasco. Lupe had those complex lyrics a long time ago, he was just overlooked. Kenny made it cool and added better cadence,etc. imo
Dude I love you for this video. My inner critic bashes me for "copying" other musicians' styles and not being more "original" -- there is some narrative/false belief from childhood and society that planted that. The first song I ever wrote as a little kid had a melody similar to One Sweet Day by Mariah and BoyzIIMen and I've always been ashamed by that. These days when I try to write a song with a quality that I admire from someone else's music, it actually comes out as its own thing, and usually not like that song at all, which is an error in copying, but a success in creation. My ego is delusional about this and you just gave evidence to prove it wrong. TY
I always wanted to do different things, because I didn't want my music to sound like everything out there. I also wanted all of my art work, and photography to be different too. One day I noticed that everything was already done. I never gave up. I just kept creating things. 😊
happy to see i’m not the only one thinking this. GO STREAM LEECH BY ANTUAN THE PYMP. It’s a concept album i self produced and wrote with the only feature being my buddy austen. The entire album was crafted in honor of all of my favorite musicians, from Tyler the creator to Dilla. It’s one of the most interesting albums i’ve heard and regardless of if it takes off, im extremely proud of how interesting it sounds. If you guys are open to giving it a listen, i’d check it out! It’s out on all streaming platforms including youtube!!
At first I was one of those people who believed that stealing art was the wrong thing to do as it just makes you into a copy. Until I started writing my first screenplay, I'm writing a Martial Arts revenge story set in the 1970s about a young woman seeking to kill the governor of New York because she watched him kill her father and her baby sister when she was 12. This concept isn't wholly original as it's kinda Kill Bill and many other films, but it's ironic that Kill Bill is the main source of inspiration behind this because Kill Bill is a clone in itself.
I hate this idea so much it comes from that stupid picssso quote but it’s truest form of not understanding what art in it’s entirety. Stealing and paying homage/taking inspiration are not the same thing at all. Stealing art is stealing art straight up. But homage and inspiration are part of the beauty of art. Art is a symphony it builds upon each other, every artist takes note from other artists to make notes of their own note in the symphony like a symphony it all has the same rhythm and tempo but it’s all unique. To peddle this backwards idea that great is simply theft cheapens all of art. It also completely ignores that there is, in itself ,a art to paying homage and taking inspiration from books musics fashion movies etc. this idea that Picasso was right needs to be retired and forgotten the only ppl I see swear by this quote or idea are straight men. And those straight men also get made fun for just randomly taking from ppl or using ppl without thought. Drake and dj khalid are the biggest
You misunderstand the point of the quote. The difference between borrowing is that you’re just copying it, the idea of the term stealing is that you’re taking another idea, and turning it so that it’s your own idea.
@@aggohyf I’m not misunderstanding the quote. The quote is bs. It’s made by a man that was a asshole and obessed with hitlers. What you described is taking inspiration it’s paying homage it’s the symphony of art
@@geekyboy6875 you are misunderstanding cause that’s literally what they meant. I know Picasso was a piece of shit, but that doesn’t mean his quote didn’t mean what I said, cause taking inspiration is literally what he meant when he said stealing. I think you’re purposefully misunderstanding the quote to be angry at a straw man.
I do not agree with your take on triplets, they were and are an integral part to various African peoples music, so I'd call it more a reconnection to black roots than Kendrick picking up Migos' flow
Nah, stealing is for frauds. If you're crediting people and building off of a template, you are more or less paying homage. A lot of R- teassts like to pretend they came up with something they stole. I do agree though that stealing is one of the keys to success.
you want inspiration but the best critic of an artist is this - 'there's nothing else like them'. or they're irreplaceable like Kanye. He's a great example, so much controversy but no one can replace him.
Funny thing about Taratino, I will add, is that he HATED a lot of the French New Wave like Goddard and Truffaut. And yet, he stole their shots. Which to me, isn't loving the craft nor the artists that came before him.
This is why you can ignore people who try to criticize artists simply by saying, "this is just artist x and artist y with a bit of artist z. Totally unoriginal"
After 15 years of songwriting I find that I'm now able to connect the dots : those 4 notes comes from X song, this little passage from this other one, the inspiration is this or that... at the beginning, you're afraid that you're going to end with a copy of something, but that's not how it works at all. It's also really fun and crazy cool when you have let's say : a singer badly copying Amy Winehouse playing bass, a grunge guitarist who wants Hendrix's tone, a jazz drummer going a cross between Bohnam and Portnoy in the Winery dogs ... I guess that's basically what my new band is and, man, we may not be ready yet, but I sure as hell never heard something like this before! It's an amazing feeling when something that's not supposed to work actually do :D
The lead singer of one my favorite bands ever, Braid, said that when they started out they wanted to be a mash-up of Fugazi and Jawbreaker: the crazy guitars of the former mixed with the poetic, confessional lyrics of the latter. Obviously there were other influences mixed in, but those two were the main ones. Their first album sounds VERY Fugazi-ey. By their third, their sound had become something pretty unique. They didn't really sound like Fugazi anymore, they just sounded like, well, Braid.
Copying depends on numbers. Numbers can get to the point of teaching or enforcing. That's the point at that point. Plus the majority of people don't copy, they use. So they have to pay or some fucking blood sucking thing?
Its not scary at all. How do you think people learn to write songs? You learn to play other’s songs. You begin analyzing the songs you love. You breakdown arrangement and how the recoding is staged. You find out why that one out of place chord works so well. That isn’t stealing. That is admiration, humility, learning, and ultimately helps to blossom your creativity.
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heyyyy sorry the first upload of this had a glitch in it. enjoy :-)
Which makes that upload even more artistically unique because it's a shitty version of what you were trying to accomplish 😂hahaha jk ✌️
There's an old saying in professional wrestling, "stealing from 1 person is plagiarism, stealing from multiple people is research".
I like that. I really like that. Thanks for sharing my friend😃
I'm going to steal this comment
@@artorius4986 plagiarism at its finest
Charly garcia be like
Is that actually from wrestling? It's a saying I picked up at some point but never knew the origin
Paul McCartney once said "good artists borrow, great artists steal"....and he stole that from Picasso.
I used to find this quote so confusing until I realized that to borrow, you take it, but it remains the original creators possession. When you steal, you take it and make it your own.
Unfortunately, that is an unverified quote...
He probably had to translate it at least cuz I think Pablo said it in Spanish.
Dont just steal from one artist. Steal from load. Take what you like and ditch what you dont. Give it enough time and your patch work of influences will become your own style.
Exactly. We are not wholly unique - our uniqueness is simply a combination of others formed into something unique. Don’t be like Greta Van Fleet and dictate your art from 1 source
Lmao...... common sense would tell you that.
@@claycowartisamazing Being snarky doesn't make you sound cool or smarter than anyone else. Thanks for the useless comment 😐
Stealing from one place is called plagiarism, stealing from many places is called inspiration
-Someone who isn't me
@@SweaterSwagg You don't sound cool or smart. Thanks for the useless comment, random dude.
This is really how people sound original. I have thought about this for a while. People who sound just like the most popular thing have a talent to do that but are in a crowded field of sound alike . The ones who try to imitate their favorite artists but it comes out sounding original get all the attention. It not only sounds original but also sounds good. How did they do it? They are good musicians but they're not good at imitating exactly what they hear.
My advice to bands who can sound just like another band is to try to mash up styles of different bands to get an original feel.
A lot of people have responded positive to this comment. Really the problem is people are scared to be themselves . There is so much information now to help people become better musicians and so much access to inspirational music from the last 100 years to pull from. People need to look inside themselves and only concentrate on music that makes themselves happy. Nothing else matters in the long run.
We need to start to forget about originality and coming w something from the scratch, fixating on being 100% original only generates frustration and unnecessary comparisons
Damn right. That's why my new religion makes Harry Potter the magical savior. Literally just swap Harry Potter for Jesus and Hogwarts for heaven.
Good artists are able to integrate existing elements and make them sound organic and make them their own. They will stick out from the infinite crowd of solid or bad artists that copy styles and bring little or nothing original to the table. It's always that way. Maybe especially in the EDM area. A new trend, everybody's hopping on the hype train and you end up with thousands and thousands of simliar sounding tracks that cannot even be distinguished because DJs and producers usually don't put their own vocals on the tracks.
yup
I don't get edm
Anytime I get so inspired by something that it makes me want to imitate it, I never get worried it’ll be too similar cus I know that pretty early on it’s gonna turn into something else whether it be due to my inability to copy something well or my squirrelesque attention span chasing down some idea that emerges. I always end up somewhere that barely resembles the inspiration, if at all.
Great video Harrison, really inspiring! I'd also like to recommend the book "Steal Like An Artist" by Austin Kleon which touches on some similar topics as this video 🤘
The gatekeeping is REAL, especially on the tube. The big fish don't like other fish getting big. The fish that want to eat, repeat this for them for a piece of the lunch. Get out of the pond, make music, make videos, make them for you first.
stealing from 1 person is plagiarism, stealing from multiple people is called "creativity"
Francis Ford Coppola has said (and I'm highly paraphrasing here) that copying is important to do for an artist in the beginning, because it continues a connection that the thing you're copying made with you, so it's starting from something genuine. And when you've explored that thing in earnest, other stuff will come up and eventually you can't help but shape it into something new that is undoubtedly your own voice.
At first, what you were saying pissed me off. The most prolific creative period I have ever had as a musician where I not only wrote the most music I ever had, but wrote the most music that I absolutely loved, that I ever had, was after a long period of time where I avoided listening to any music whatsoever outside of what I heard in movies or tv shows I watched. I went from listening to all kinds of music all the time for most of my life to listening to nothing. For at least a few years. And that freed me from comparing my music to anything else and freed me to create music that was my music and not someone else's music or me trying to make someone else's music or be someone else. While I don't wholesale disagree with you now, I think you left something out. Or at least didn't articulate it in a way that resonated with me. So I say yes, take influence everywhere you can, but don't be limited by it. The point is to use what you've heard to learn how to express your own heart and imagination.
We’re talking about success here and how it’s received by the public, not about making art you’re totally proud of. Those who find mainstream success most of the time had no idea that they would be successful and a lot of times even have a dislike for the art they make that the public eats up
alright you’ve sold me, i’m making kid b now
Phoebe Bridgers also stole from Elliot Smith
Isn't the title track of Punisher specifically about Phoebe Bridgers being a helpless Elliot Smith copycat?
_“Good artists borrow, great artists steal"_
-Pablo "Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la Santísima Trinidad Ruiz y" Picasso
This reminds us that creativity is often inspired by what came before us, and that it's okay to draw inspiration from the works of others. We should not be afraid to borrow, to build on, or even to steal from our artistic predecessors to create something truly unique and meaningful. Great job Aflo Media.
Elitist thinking can be harmful. Some kind of fans demand originality so much, they cannot enjoy stuff that sounds similar. But it will always sound like that. It's easy to fall into that trap. Almost automatically, when you hear a new song, you will compare it to other songs you've heard before and you're rating will not be separated from these other works. Because you cannot like every single song released, you should like what you like and that's it. Some artists are more innovative, others sound like other artists.
It doesn't matter, it's just an ego thing to show off how great your music taste is and how much better it is than the taste of the masses who listen to unoriginal, bland, manufactured artists. I like to pick out a couple or a couple more artists from many genres. That's more than enough, and you cannot like every artist anyway because they are so different. They don't have to invent the wheel, I personally have to like them. Innovation is great but it doesn't guarantee that I like the music then.
Taking elements of different genres that work and make it a new thing is great. I think of Nu Metal. Take Rap, take metal, take pop and make it a new genre. Obviously it uses ingredients that existed before but in a new exciting mixture.
J Cole literally cites Nas and Em it's crazy the verses he writes now with his voice
Absolutely agree! That's why I stole Ivan Aivazovsky's The Ninth Wave and sold it to a billionaire for a whole bunch of money!
I prefer to think of it like adding fresh ingredients to a forever soup
Alfo Media is Polyphonics's brother right? I mean, the similarity between the voices are as similar as Greta Van Fleet and Led Zeppelin
or maybe we're the same person...
Every generation of artists builds upon the work of their predecessors
This was so good that i watched it twice
didn’t even talk about how Phoebe Bridgers is completely inspired by Elliott Smith :)
i wouldn't say it's about being bad at copying someone else. It's more about copying a bunch of artists. Then it doesn't matter if you're good or bad at copying them, you've already made it your own thing by having many different influences specific to you
real ones were here for the first upload
Drake has done this for years now. Every time there's a new sound in rap he tries it out and does his version of it. It keeps things interesting and keeps his music evolving. His take on dance music with Honestly Nevermind was probably his most creative work since More Life.
if you genuinely think Greta Van Fleet still ''just copy Led Zep'' you haven't heard Battle At Garden's Gate. I get the criticism back when they first started gaining popularity with Highway Tune... but it's been years now, get over it, people
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK‼️‼️
Lover, Leaver=Nobody's Fault But Mine
Intro to Weight of Dreams=Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
Feels Like We Only Go Backwards was "stolen" from Walk in the Park by Beach House.
i write creatively and a similar thing came up that sort of goes along with this: you don't need to make something as original as possible, because when you're reading what you look for is familiar and fun tropes to enjoy ad infinitum. you add your writing style and characters and all that plus a story, yeah, but you're writing is going to have better structure and stronger legs to stand on if it has the framework of ideas and tropes before it that you can just do well and have fun with. same thing applies to music, i think. look at what you have and put it together in your own way
One of the best (or arguably the best) guitar player of our generation John Mayer once said: "It’s my failure to sound like my heroes that’s allowed me to sound like myself.”
so basically steal it and drive it like you own it
Look at Kanye West now. Stealing samples from other artist and makes it his own. No one even knows the “Ooooh” part from Goodmorning is from Elton John
i've been thinkin for a long time that art is mostly mistranslation and its cool to see a similar perspective expressed here :3
I’m going to steal this video concept and post it on my TH-cam channel. 🥂
These videos are awesome, never have i ever hit the subscribe button quicker
It's very fitting that that quote from Picasso is often attributed to many artists of history. I knew it as a Stravinsky quote.
drake rubbing his hands like birdman after reading the title of this video😭
popular rap songs are a prime example of this. well, a more straight forward example. copy, paste, slightly alter, then boom: a rap beat and/or lyrics
I’ve been watching your videos for a couple years now and this is my favorite video you’ve ever put out! Love this man
thank you!
@@AlfoMedia absolutely man@! keep up the good shit my guy!
Just think Tyler the creator and Pharrell.
Another great example of this is japanese designer Yohji Yamamoto. His advice is to copy again and again until you are good enough to make a product that is part consequence of the copying and part yourself
Adam's Ribs has me in fucking tears right now. Holy shit.
Triplet flow was popularized by Bone Thugs, youngster.
Unnecessary comment about Greta Van Fleet:
I do totally agree that their first EP and Album are very, very clearly Led Zeppelin inspired, but I do totally think they came into their own style with their second album. Definitely still got some Zeppelin influence, but it feels a lot more original. Great vid!
I want to be the artist being copied…
Jonny cash’s cover of hurt is a good example of this, making it into something entirely different.
Also not music related, Hidetaka Miyazaki has taken a lot of inspiration from other sources, berserk being a major influence on his work, while making something wholly distinct.
also the fact that Phoebe has a whole song (punisher) about her being a copycat of Elliot Smith
This may sound crazy to some but.. I REALLY feel like kendrick stole from Eminem and Lupe Fiasco. Lupe had those complex lyrics a long time ago, he was just overlooked. Kenny made it cool and added better cadence,etc. imo
Dude I love you for this video. My inner critic bashes me for "copying" other musicians' styles and not being more "original" -- there is some narrative/false belief from childhood and society that planted that. The first song I ever wrote as a little kid had a melody similar to One Sweet Day by Mariah and BoyzIIMen and I've always been ashamed by that. These days when I try to write a song with a quality that I admire from someone else's music, it actually comes out as its own thing, and usually not like that song at all, which is an error in copying, but a success in creation. My ego is delusional about this and you just gave evidence to prove it wrong. TY
Nobody is original.
I always wanted to do different things, because I didn't want my music to sound like everything out there. I also wanted all of my art work, and photography to be different too. One day I noticed that everything was already done. I never gave up. I just kept creating things. 😊
Referencing and learning from other artists helps build your visual library. As long as you borrow elements and not the style.
happy to see i’m not the only one thinking this. GO STREAM LEECH BY ANTUAN THE PYMP. It’s a concept album i self produced and wrote with the only feature being my buddy austen. The entire album was crafted in honor of all of my favorite musicians, from Tyler the creator to Dilla. It’s one of the most interesting albums i’ve heard and regardless of if it takes off, im extremely proud of how interesting it sounds. If you guys are open to giving it a listen, i’d check it out! It’s out on all streaming platforms including youtube!!
Boutta steal ur intro and put it in my song, thank you
My friends' band was influenced by X, and they're quite successful: eventually, Exene did a song with them.
At first I was one of those people who believed that stealing art was the wrong thing to do as it just makes you into a copy. Until I started writing my first screenplay, I'm writing a Martial Arts revenge story set in the 1970s about a young woman seeking to kill the governor of New York because she watched him kill her father and her baby sister when she was 12. This concept isn't wholly original as it's kinda Kill Bill and many other films, but it's ironic that Kill Bill is the main source of inspiration behind this because Kill Bill is a clone in itself.
Da king is back baby he neva miss
I hate this idea so much it comes from that stupid picssso quote but it’s truest form of not understanding what art in it’s entirety. Stealing and paying homage/taking inspiration are not the same thing at all. Stealing art is stealing art straight up. But homage and inspiration are part of the beauty of art. Art is a symphony it builds upon each other, every artist takes note from other artists to make notes of their own note in the symphony like a symphony it all has the same rhythm and tempo but it’s all unique. To peddle this backwards idea that great is simply theft cheapens all of art. It also completely ignores that there is, in itself ,a art to paying homage and taking inspiration from books musics fashion movies etc. this idea that Picasso was right needs to be retired and forgotten the only ppl I see swear by this quote or idea are straight men. And those straight men also get made fun for just randomly taking from ppl or using ppl without thought. Drake and dj khalid are the biggest
the video makes that same point tho. this comment is splitting hairs
You misunderstand the point of the quote. The difference between borrowing is that you’re just copying it, the idea of the term stealing is that you’re taking another idea, and turning it so that it’s your own idea.
@@aggohyf I’m not misunderstanding the quote. The quote is bs. It’s made by a man that was a asshole and obessed with hitlers. What you described is taking inspiration it’s paying homage it’s the symphony of art
@@tinglar5432 no it doesn’t if it made the same point it wouldn’t use great artists steal bs
@@geekyboy6875 you are misunderstanding cause that’s literally what they meant. I know Picasso was a piece of shit, but that doesn’t mean his quote didn’t mean what I said, cause taking inspiration is literally what he meant when he said stealing. I think you’re purposefully misunderstanding the quote to be angry at a straw man.
I do not agree with your take on triplets, they were and are an integral part to various African peoples music, so I'd call it more a reconnection to black roots than Kendrick picking up Migos' flow
Nah, stealing is for frauds. If you're crediting people and building off of a template, you are more or less paying homage. A lot of R- teassts like to pretend they came up with something they stole. I do agree though that stealing is one of the keys to success.
David grohl says he stole his drum patterns from funk cause he felt in adequate whole time he’s one of the greatest drummers alive
Great Nas song. "No Ideas Original"
This is how I approach acting a lot of the time. Start with a bad impression, and work it out to make it work for what you're doing.
you want inspiration but the best critic of an artist is this - 'there's nothing else like them'. or they're irreplaceable like Kanye. He's a great example, so much controversy but no one can replace him.
It’s pretty much the same with movies. This generation makes sequels and remakes of great things. Have an idea!
I've always thought Pheobe might of been inspired by Wilco, especially with her production.
The Jensen example is like how Fleece got popular because of their Alt-J parody
great vid, imma steal some parts of it.
"If I have seen further than others, it is by standing upon the shoulders of giants". _Isaac Newton_
Even a totally original idea is always copied in some way by something that happened in real life.
Listen to Senyawa duo! They make something new about music
Good video but the migos flow been round way before migos was even a thing
Funny thing about Taratino, I will add, is that he HATED a lot of the French New Wave like Goddard and Truffaut. And yet, he stole their shots. Which to me, isn't loving the craft nor the artists that came before him.
REF: Axis of Awesome 4-Chord Song
All art is derivative. There is no such thing of ideas that come out of thin air
On the subject of the migos triplet flow, they stole it from bone thugs and harmony and three 6 mafia anyway
Guess everyone forgot about this when it comes to ai art lol
This is why you can ignore people who try to criticize artists simply by saying, "this is just artist x and artist y with a bit of artist z. Totally unoriginal"
ive always hated that argument
De La Soul is a great example of your point
Thanks I need that. Love the comments section too.
We're all just out here aggregating tropes.
i still belive stealing is diferent but shure
Please a link to the live show
Even Beyoncé says this
Well said, dude!
Holyshit. These are all accurate
After 15 years of songwriting I find that I'm now able to connect the dots : those 4 notes comes from X song, this little passage from this other one, the inspiration is this or that... at the beginning, you're afraid that you're going to end with a copy of something, but that's not how it works at all. It's also really fun and crazy cool when you have let's say : a singer badly copying Amy Winehouse playing bass, a grunge guitarist who wants Hendrix's tone, a jazz drummer going a cross between Bohnam and Portnoy in the Winery dogs ... I guess that's basically what my new band is and, man, we may not be ready yet, but I sure as hell never heard something like this before! It's an amazing feeling when something that's not supposed to work actually do :D
Good artists copy
Great artists steal
You're inspiring many man.
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good ass video!! great insights full of perspective... you need to teach a class on this mate !!!
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The lead singer of one my favorite bands ever, Braid, said that when they started out they wanted to be a mash-up of Fugazi and Jawbreaker: the crazy guitars of the former mixed with the poetic, confessional lyrics of the latter. Obviously there were other influences mixed in, but those two were the main ones.
Their first album sounds VERY Fugazi-ey. By their third, their sound had become something pretty unique. They didn't really sound like Fugazi anymore, they just sounded like, well, Braid.
Copying depends on numbers. Numbers can get to the point of teaching or enforcing. That's the point at that point. Plus the majority of people don't copy, they use. So they have to pay or some fucking blood sucking thing?
Its not scary at all. How do you think people learn to write songs? You learn to play other’s songs. You begin analyzing the songs you love. You breakdown arrangement and how the recoding is staged. You find out why that one out of place chord works so well. That isn’t stealing. That is admiration, humility, learning, and ultimately helps to blossom your creativity.
I did this for my album
i think about this concept so much