This is badass. My progression: John Piper taught me to love and trust God and his word, Tim Keller introduced me to defending the faith, NT Wright taught me to look at history and the biblical OT + NT gospel narrative as a whole, Michael Heiser taught me how to better understand that cosmic narrative that drives everything. We are so blessed with great teaching.
Yes ,but for me it's not what pipier ,keller, wright, heiser and others "HAVE TAUGHT ME", but what they :ARE TEACHING ME " AND MANY OF MY TEACHERS HAVE NEVER WRITTEN A BOOK OR GIVEN A LECTURE. so I thank GOD for all of them. 10 Q holy spirit for teaching us all..
Wow…what a thought provoking conversation. I heard from a conservative evangelical that NT Wright had serious issues in his theology, so I steered clear. Years later, my life perpetually found conservative evangelicalism wanting and theologically deficient. This conversation hit so many topics that I’ve started to re-analyze. Thank you so much for the interview! I’ll definitely be chewing on this for a while. And I’ve got 6 of his books in my cart🤣
Whenever someone tells me to avoid a certain person theologically, it makes me want to look into them more. I’m not a big fan of taking someone else’s opinion as gospel.
All of a sudden I can't quit studying. I now see that dispensationalism is putting God in a box...several small boxes really...and God just doesn't fit He's too big!
Hi, Preston...thanks for this! So glad that N.T. Wright is promoting his new book...everyone on TH-cam is interviewing him, and I get to hear his latest insights on so many great questions! If Dr. Wright is a "rock star theologian" (as he has been described), I guess that makes me a groupie. Had to write this down: "The crucified Jesus has been raised from the dead, launching the New Creation of which He is the Lord."
Right about 12:25 "The crucified Jesus has been raised from the dead, launching God's new creation of which he is the Lord. The cross has dealt with all the things that clog our wheels, and stop us from being genuine human beings. The resurrection, then, launches God's new creation. Jesus is now exalted as Lord of the whole world. He is recruiting human beings to become genuine human beings at last by accepting what he did on the cross as the defeat of the power of evil, on their behalf, and becoming part of his new creation by his Spirit." Marvelous!
Thank you, Preston. I was a student in your theological issues class at Kuyper and have been following your conversation and work for a long time. Your conversations are top notch and I look up to you so much. Keep it up!
Ive just come across N.T. Wright, and Im enjoying his work, even though I'm a newbie. Thank you for an excellent informative interview! I have also subscribed! Blessings from South Africa!
It has been an enriching experience to have been able to listen and engage with the ideas in this conversation. I had been wondering what Dr. Wright may have said about some of the issues in the U.S. (culture wars, right and left divide, evangelical tendency to avoid thoughtfully integrating politics and theology, etc.). Though there is so much to grieve in America and the world, there is also much to celebrate because of the message that the crucified and risen Prince of peace is Lord, and God's work of making a new heaven and new earth through him!! Thank you for the refreshing reminder.
Thank you for this deep "chat" on core issues. May he that has ears to hear, hear the heart of the gospel refected in this conversation. A good Anglo-American meeting, an excellent question was raised in the middle. Thanks.
I tried to teach my youth about the resurrection. They knew nothing about it. Someone went home and told their parents I was teaching reincarnation! I got fired. Of course I am just a layman. But in defense in this evangelical American church I have never heard it preached from the pulpit or studied in a Bible study. It is all about going to heaven. Tom , I wish you could have crowd funded Bible study classes, so they would be open to all, rich and poor. People can’t afford seminary, or expensive books. I go to the university of you tube. It is very hard to discern truth and half truths, when you are alone. My church Bible studies tend to be too narrow and spoon fed.
Have you ever seen the movie "The Shawshank Redemption"? I like to think of the storyline of Brooks Hatlen, portrayed by James Whitmore. He serves his penal sentence and is released after 50 years, he has his redemption. But then his life begins, and it is empty, he can't find a life for himself after that, and he hangs himself. The Gospel is not just a parole board substituting atonement for you so you can be released from prison, it contains within it justification by faith, but it is FAR more than that: the Gospel is the good news that Jesus Christ is Lord, the Messiah that was promised, he has redeemed the people of God and brought about the fulfillment of God's covenant with man which we are to now live in light of.
Refreshing to hear someone speak out about the hero worship in the usa of a man... My very dear and good friends think I am a heretic for saying such things, such is the delusion going on. Looking to the man instead of The Kingdom Man, Jesus. It's refreshing to listen to a voice that makes sense.
@PrestonSprinkle Have you interviewed Dr. Michael Heiser? He’s an amazing Biblical scholar and ancient languages guy who fits right in with Wright and the new heaven and new earth stuff. He himself interviewed Wright at a conference they both attended some years back. Check him out.
Was Paul given the authority like the 11 disciples of Jesus if you compare Mathew 28:20 and Acts 26:18?. For example Paul was not given the authority to give baptism. His authority was limited to preaching and deliver the sheeps of Jesus from the power of Satan.
It’s a delusion that evangelicals are obsessed with Trump, the vast majority don’t vote. Giving tassat acknowledge to the BLM, why not the PLO or other essentially anti-christian ideas? I both love and hate Wright, I love how he seeks for the right question, but find him often straining to satisfy his bias.
( Do Christians And Jews and "OTHER" non-Muslims go to Heaven? ) Quran 2:62 '' Those who believe (in the Quran) and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures) and the Christians and the Sabians->ANYAllah< Is The Protector Of Monasteries, Churches, Synagogues And The Mosques ) Quran 22:40 [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, " Our Lord is God " And were it not that God checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of God is much mentioned. And God will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, God is Powerful and Exalted in Might. Note: Why did Allah protected Churches and Synagogues if they worship false Allah ? ( Why Are There So Many Different Religions In The World ? ) Quran 5 48 ''...... If God wanted He could have made all of you a single nation.( ie single religion ) But He willed otherwise in order to test you in what He has given you (ie Scriptures) therefore try to excel one another in good deeds. Ultimately you all shall return to God then He will show you the truth of those matters in which you '' >DISPUTE verb < not noun like other religions Islam mean "submission" to God ( The above verse saying is that God will not accept a religion from the >MUSLIM< and the Non-Muslims but total "submission" to God ) Question: How Can Muslim And the Non-Muslim "submit" to the God? Answer: Be kind to other human beings and Do not lie, Do not steal, Do not cheat, Do not hurt others, Do not be prideful and Do the charity work. Note: If you obeyed all the ABOVE Allah-God's moral laws "YOU" submitted to God.( ie Islam mean "submission" to God ) The only people who will enter Paradise those who '' Submitted to God '' ( ie by good deeds ) God does NOT accept your religion of birth but only ''Your Total'' Submission to Him. ( God Allows Interfaith Marriages And Eat Food From the Christian And Jew And Vice Versa ) Quran 5:5 ''This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And [lawful in marriage are] chaste women from among the believers (ie Muslim ) and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless and he in the Hereafter will be among the losers.'' Note: > Only < Islam allows interfaith marriages (>14 hundredsSame God< but They are >ALL Corrupt< more or less, some more than others from their original foundational teaching. The older religion are MORE corrupted than newer religion. Question to Muslim and Christian: Does God / Allah only answer your pray ? And God / Allah does not answer non Muslim / non Christian pray? Did Allah '' Canceled '' all other religions Judaism and Christianity? Quran 5:48 '' And We have revealed to you [O Muhammad] the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture ( ie New and old Testament ) and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. >>>TO EACH OF YOU WE PRESCRIBED A LAW AND A METHODone nation>differ qualified < for to enter Paradise ) On the day of judgement God will ''NOT'' judge humanity bases on Sunni Muslim sect VS Shia Muslim sect ''NOR'' by Muslim VS non-Muslim >but< Doer of Goods VS Doer of Evils. '' YOUR " birth in the Muslim's family is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise. '' YOUR " religion / sect / foot long beard is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise. The > qualification < to enter Paradise is > Faith in God and Good Work
I was disappointed to hear his remarks concerning Mr. Trump's supporters. We may not like his temperament, his delivery, his rudeness, whatever; BUT he does promise to protect Christians' freedom, our National Security, our Borders, our Energy independence, etc... He would be the President not our example of politeness. His past record encourages his voters again. Without that 1st election, the Country would not know the depth of Washington's corruption.
Oh contraire. I see Trump as a blatant wolf in wolf clothing. Genuine Christian’s vote what they see, but I’m thinking, who can see and know the heart of any man? “The heart is deceitful , above all things, and desperately wicked. Who can know it?” Does anybody know who God would vote for? We can only make our best guess. Probably would throw them out of the running, because there is so much corruption. Political leaders portray one thing and are another. They are human, fallible and often have their (own) agenda…especially if they happen to be running for president.
This is badass. My progression: John Piper taught me to love and trust God and his word, Tim Keller introduced me to defending the faith, NT Wright taught me to look at history and the biblical OT + NT gospel narrative as a whole, Michael Heiser taught me how to better understand that cosmic narrative that drives everything. We are so blessed with great teaching.
Yes ,but for me it's not what pipier ,keller, wright, heiser and others "HAVE TAUGHT ME", but what they :ARE TEACHING ME " AND MANY OF MY TEACHERS HAVE NEVER WRITTEN A BOOK OR GIVEN A LECTURE. so I thank GOD for all of them. 10 Q holy spirit for teaching us all..
Wow…what a thought provoking conversation. I heard from a conservative evangelical that NT Wright had serious issues in his theology, so I steered clear. Years later, my life perpetually found conservative evangelicalism wanting and theologically deficient. This conversation hit so many topics that I’ve started to re-analyze. Thank you so much for the interview! I’ll definitely be chewing on this for a while. And I’ve got 6 of his books in my cart🤣
Well its all interesting mythology for sure, but most mythologies seem pretty convincing to those immersed in the mythology.
Whenever someone tells me to avoid a certain person theologically, it makes me want to look into them more. I’m not a big fan of taking someone else’s opinion as gospel.
All of a sudden I can't quit studying. I now see that dispensationalism
is putting God in a box...several small
boxes really...and
God just doesn't fit
He's too big!
Hi, Preston...thanks for this! So glad that N.T. Wright is promoting his new book...everyone on TH-cam is interviewing him, and I get to hear his latest insights on so many great questions! If Dr. Wright is a "rock star theologian" (as he has been described), I guess that makes me a groupie. Had to write this down: "The crucified Jesus has been raised from the dead, launching the New Creation of which He is the Lord."
At 11:33 You get N.T.'s definition of the gospel from his advanced studies into this incredible human opportunity.
Right about 12:25 "The crucified Jesus has been raised from the dead, launching God's new creation of which he is the Lord. The cross has dealt with all the things that clog our wheels, and stop us from being genuine human beings. The resurrection, then, launches God's new creation. Jesus is now exalted as Lord of the whole world. He is recruiting human beings to become genuine human beings at last by accepting what he did on the cross as the defeat of the power of evil, on their behalf, and becoming part of his new creation by his Spirit." Marvelous!
We have made the gospel all about us! The biggest sin, our self-absorption. It's about God and His-story. Thank you Dr Wright!
Thanks for the upload! As a young undergraduate student who’s been exposed to Tom’s work and ideas since I was 17, I cannot express my gratitude.
Two of the most influential people on my theology and faith. So grateful to hear them chat!!
Thank you, Preston. I was a student in your theological issues class at Kuyper and have been following your conversation and work for a long time. Your conversations are top notch and I look up to you so much. Keep it up!
Wow! REALLY loved this! Thanks!
I love conversations like this. Thank you both.
Ive just come across N.T. Wright, and Im enjoying his work, even though I'm a newbie. Thank you for an excellent informative interview!
I have also subscribed!
Blessings from South Africa!
It has been an enriching experience to have been able to listen and engage with the ideas in this conversation. I had been wondering what Dr. Wright may have said about some of the issues in the U.S. (culture wars, right and left divide, evangelical tendency to avoid thoughtfully integrating politics and theology, etc.). Though there is so much to grieve in America and the world, there is also much to celebrate because of the message that the crucified and risen Prince of peace is Lord, and God's work of making a new heaven and new earth through him!! Thank you for the refreshing reminder.
Thank you for this deep "chat" on core issues. May he that has ears to hear, hear the heart of the gospel refected in this conversation. A good Anglo-American meeting, an excellent question was raised in the middle. Thanks.
I tried to teach my youth about the resurrection. They knew nothing about it. Someone went home and told their parents I was teaching reincarnation! I got fired. Of course I am just a layman. But in defense in this evangelical American church I have never heard it preached from the pulpit or studied in a Bible study. It is all about going to heaven. Tom , I wish you could have crowd funded Bible study classes, so they would be open to all, rich and poor. People can’t afford seminary, or expensive books. I go to the university of you tube. It is very hard to discern truth and half truths, when you are alone. My church Bible studies tend to be too narrow and spoon fed.
Have you ever seen the movie "The Shawshank Redemption"? I like to think of the storyline of Brooks Hatlen, portrayed by James Whitmore. He serves his penal sentence and is released after 50 years, he has his redemption. But then his life begins, and it is empty, he can't find a life for himself after that, and he hangs himself.
The Gospel is not just a parole board substituting atonement for you so you can be released from prison, it contains within it justification by faith, but it is FAR more than that: the Gospel is the good news that Jesus Christ is Lord, the Messiah that was promised, he has redeemed the people of God and brought about the fulfillment of God's covenant with man which we are to now live in light of.
Love this interview! Thank you for doing this.
I enjoyed this immensely. I find it disturbing that many pastors and laypeople are just parroting each other.
Wonderful! Thank you!
Refreshing to hear someone speak out about the hero worship in the usa of a man... My very dear and good friends think I am a heretic for saying such things, such is the delusion going on. Looking to the man instead of The Kingdom Man, Jesus. It's refreshing to listen to a voice that makes sense.
@PrestonSprinkle Have you interviewed Dr. Michael Heiser? He’s an amazing Biblical scholar and ancient languages guy who fits right in with Wright and the new heaven and new earth stuff. He himself interviewed Wright at a conference they both attended some years back. Check him out.
11:58
Rofl at when Thomas said he does not think jesus will literally look like a Lion/lamb with a sword sticking out of his mouth.
Loved everything but Tom's take on politicians.
Was Paul given the authority like the 11 disciples of Jesus if you compare Mathew 28:20 and Acts 26:18?. For example Paul was not given the authority to give baptism. His authority was limited to preaching and deliver the sheeps of Jesus from the power of Satan.
You all should try reading Catholic literature, and this won't seem so amazing.
It’s a delusion that evangelicals are obsessed with Trump, the vast majority don’t vote. Giving tassat acknowledge to the BLM, why not the PLO or other essentially anti-christian ideas? I both love and hate Wright, I love how he seeks for the right question, but find him often straining to satisfy his bias.
( Do Christians And Jews and "OTHER" non-Muslims go to Heaven? )
Quran 2:62
'' Those who believe (in the Quran) and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures) and the Christians and the Sabians->ANYAllah< Is The Protector Of Monasteries, Churches, Synagogues And The Mosques )
Quran 22:40
[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, " Our Lord is God " And were it not that God checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of God is much mentioned. And God will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, God is Powerful and Exalted in Might.
Note: Why did Allah protected Churches and Synagogues if they worship false Allah ?
( Why Are There So Many Different Religions In The World ? )
Quran 5 48
''...... If God wanted He could have made all of you a single nation.( ie single religion ) But He willed otherwise in order to test you in what He has given you (ie Scriptures) therefore try to excel one another in good deeds. Ultimately you all shall return to God then He will show you the truth of those matters in which you '' >DISPUTE verb < not noun like other religions
Islam mean "submission" to God
( The above verse saying is that God will not accept a religion from the >MUSLIM< and the Non-Muslims but total "submission" to God )
Question: How Can Muslim And the Non-Muslim "submit" to the God?
Answer: Be kind to other human beings and Do not lie, Do not steal, Do not cheat, Do not hurt others, Do not be prideful and Do the charity work.
Note: If you obeyed all the ABOVE Allah-God's moral laws "YOU" submitted to God.( ie Islam mean "submission" to God )
The only people who will enter Paradise those who '' Submitted to God '' ( ie by good deeds )
God does NOT accept your religion of birth but only ''Your Total'' Submission to Him.
( God Allows Interfaith Marriages And Eat Food From the Christian And Jew And Vice Versa )
Quran 5:5
''This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And [lawful in marriage are] chaste women from among the believers (ie Muslim ) and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless and he in the Hereafter will be among the losers.''
Note: > Only < Islam allows interfaith marriages (>14 hundredsSame God< but They are >ALL Corrupt< more or less, some more than others from their original foundational teaching. The older religion are MORE corrupted than newer religion.
Question to Muslim and Christian:
Does God / Allah only answer your pray ?
And God / Allah does not answer non Muslim / non Christian pray?
Did Allah '' Canceled '' all other religions Judaism and Christianity?
Quran 5:48
'' And We have revealed to you [O Muhammad] the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture ( ie New and old Testament ) and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. >>>TO EACH OF YOU WE PRESCRIBED A LAW AND A METHODone nation>differ qualified < for to enter Paradise )
On the day of judgement God will ''NOT'' judge humanity bases on Sunni Muslim sect VS Shia Muslim sect ''NOR'' by Muslim VS non-Muslim >but< Doer of Goods VS Doer of Evils.
'' YOUR " birth in the Muslim's family is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise.
'' YOUR " religion / sect / foot long beard is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise.
The > qualification < to enter Paradise is > Faith in God and Good Work
I was disappointed to hear his remarks concerning Mr. Trump's supporters. We may not like his temperament, his delivery, his rudeness, whatever; BUT he does promise to protect Christians' freedom, our National Security, our Borders, our Energy independence, etc... He would be the President not our example of politeness. His past record encourages his voters again. Without that 1st election, the Country would not know the depth of Washington's corruption.
Jan. 6
How could a genuine Christian vote for Biden?
John the Baptist was concerned about Herod’s piety. If we were disciples of John then that would be a question worth asking
Oh contraire. I see Trump as a blatant wolf in wolf clothing. Genuine Christian’s vote what they see, but I’m thinking, who can see and know the heart of any man?
“The heart is deceitful , above all things, and desperately wicked. Who can know it?”
Does anybody know who God would vote for? We can only make our best guess. Probably would throw them out of the running, because there is so much corruption. Political leaders portray one thing and are another. They are human, fallible and often have their (own) agenda…especially if they happen to be running for president.