For 1st time I listened to 2 other lectures by Wright today. Unexplainably, i was so moved throughout that i broke out crying a half dozen times. God is using this man for those with ears to hear and hearts open .
If there were a god, then would there be any demand for scripture interpretations by various podium-jockeys using fantasyland vocabulary? We really should address the social acceptance of large numbers of people speaking a fantasyland vocabulary & openly indulging in the deceit of religious belief as a tool of fascism. These are the wolves in sheep's clothing, we know them by their works: A wicked generation seeking signs when Jesus The Nailed says faith is worthless if you can't move mountains by issuing verbal orders to one. Freud wrote the antidote to Christianity is literacy. The Christians slapped their books on the Old Testament, & the Mormons glued theirs on to them both, thus proving Christians lack quality-control. Look at the verbose podium jockey speaking of faith & prayer as if we all should have a preference for travel with one foot in fantasyland. Nothing fails like prayer in a children's hospital, & there is talk as if God does not have a perfect record of doing nothing, as if we had no reason for the saying: God helps those helping themselves. A house divided cannot stand. We vote because Christians have no quality-controls, & we desire those governing not making suggestions travel is best done with one foot in someone's fantasyland. 'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.'' It was secular law & order ending the inquisitions & witch-killings. One might expect a deity to make itself known to everyone without work performed in interpretations of old literature by guys like our verbose podium jockey. Theologians acquire grand titles without certification from a deity, & project certainty using fantasyland vocabulary in an academic setting to compensate for lack of reason.
In this age of accommodating ever decreasing attention spans such that we totally loose the message and meaning of the gospel I say Bravo to NT Wright and Perkins for this deep dive into history and the story of Jesus and challenging the listener to do the same. Again I say Bravo!
thank you Mr. Wright. This was a profoundly beautiful message. it will take me several listens to soak in all the beautiful concepts and spiritual insights that you delivered here
This cuts at the heart of many false ideas permeated in modern Christianity in the 18th, 19th, 20th and 21st centuries. It returns to the expectations and convictions of Jewish thought during the 1st century and centuries leading up to it. Bravo! let us let God's word speak to us as it did to them in that age, the beginning of the new age with it's new creation begun through resurrection. let our hearts and minds participate with and in Him in whom Life of the age to come is revealed.
Did you know he gave pastor John Lambert a job at a church in England even though he was in France and had children who were moved out their county to England?
This man has become such a blessing to my life, God took one of my heroes in the faith, Ravi Zacharias home and He blessed me with this amazing gentleman
@@TRE601 the person, Zacharias Wright , would have us direct our attention too is Jesus. As for Ravi, at what part of ministry did fail, did he become involved in adultery, I doubt it was there from the start. His immorality does not mean his apologetics were wrong.😊qshe I'll😊😊😊😊😊
Comments here are typical of what passes for Christianity. Excuses for pure evil. What good is a message that you deem correct that had absolutely no bearing on his own life? You people are so disgustingly shallow. And when you say all Messengers are flawed. Does that mean they are all molesting young girls? Are you one of those people who thinks all sin is the same. Thanks for letting me know I'll keep my children away from people like you.
I was so touched by the Jeusus I never knew. It's raised by view of Jesus. I've shared it in an email to most of my friends this wonderful video and I've listened to it twice and will many more times. The Lord be praised.
I have been on this journey to know God for 20 years. I spent much time reading systematic theology and apologetics. Listened to many good teachers from David Pawson to Timothy Keller. Discussed with Christians of various denominations. I was most confused with theology. Some believers constructed their theology by picking verses from various books to justify their theology but most do not know any theology except Jesus saves and am on the way to heaven. I came to the following conclusions - 1. Everyone will find a pair of worldview spectacles to understand the bible. 2. Because we are human, we will have our prejudices and bias, and limitations. 3. Because we read the bible through translations, we can only get the approximate original meaning. 4. Conclusion - we will only have the approximate truth, and never going get it right and certainly not all can agree on set of doctrines, not even within denominations. I restarted my journey to seek God when I asked who started Christianity. I came to the conclusion that it was Paul although Paul did not say so and most Christians were offended that I did not say it is Christ. Nevertheless, I started to study Galatians, Romans and Hebrew and became convinced that getting Paul right on the gospel and then construct a framework through biblical narratives gave me better clarity. Reading the 4 Gospels rebalance the perspectives. Jesus and Paul teachings combined to give clarity. I then begin to follow Wright's teachings. The fundamental difference is traditional evangelical doctrines came out of the Reformation with Calvin. It emphasized and magnifies that the gospel is - we are saved by grace to faith. There is nothing wrong with this statement except that if we believe in this to be saved and go to heaven, we have got Christianity completely wrong according to Paul. To me the gospel is God's plan to restore creation by his Kingdom through Christ and the covenanted people. Wright puts it another way - one God, one People, one Future. It is all about God, not me. To fully understand this requires us to read the bible through narratives and their historical context to fully grasp what what was really said. Therefore, I encourage you to study Galatians, Romans and Hebrews and seek God. If we truly seek God, we will surely find him. We are certainly saved by grace through faith. But saved for what and faith in what. Go back to the gospel to get the answer. If we acknowledge Jesus is the Messiah King and God by his death and resurrection, we join his covenanted people and Kingdom. Salvation is found only in this gospel.
We are certainly not going to be saved by the present reiteration of Epicurianism. The Woke pretends to set the record straight on the 18th Centrury but only as a grandson sets himself over his grandfather.
@SgironFox, You said you have tried for 20 years searching for God. Please allow me to share the following with you. #1. Eternal life is conditional .... you need to know both God and Jesus Christ. Jn 17:3 "And this is the way to have eternal life-to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth." #2. To get to know God, there's only one way...Jesus’s Way! Jn 14:6 Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me" #3. To get to know Jesus..... love, obey and follow him! Put everybody aside, seek Jesus onlyl Jn 14:21 "Those who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones who love me. And because they love me, my Father will love them. And I will love them and reveal myself to each of them.” #4. To obey Jesus's commandments, ...take up your cross, die daily to your sin-nature, endure pain and hardship, and keep close to Jesus. Mat 10:38 "If you refuse to take up your cross and follow me, you are not worthy of being mine." #5. To follow Jesus and be discipled.... accept Jesus as your one and only Master - Teacher and Lord. Jn 13:13 "You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and you are right, because that’s what I am." You see - ▪︎you tried learning from too many wrong teachers, including Paul - they are not equipped to be your teacher. ▪︎you have not come directly to Jesus, whom God sent- he is more than able to be your Teacher and Saviour. I myself have traversed the full stretch of Jesus's way (Jn 14:6). I have come to the Father; I know God and I know Jesus. As I have succeeded, so you will too, if you remain faithful to your course. May God the Father, lead you to His Son.
@@SgIronFox Yes, it's all experiential, and testimonies of our experiencing the reality of God is the very foundation of unyielding faith! Rev 6:9 Rev 12:11 You asked: "how do you do it in an experiential way?" I will try to answer you in the best way I can: ▪︎In the beginning, 34 years ago, I didn't know what I had to do to reach or experience God. ▪︎I was then diagnosed with a terminal disease, and was given by doctors only a short time to live. ▪︎I called out to the "real God, whoever you are" to help me. And the LORD God - He heard me. ▪︎Some friends brought me to a church, where I "met" Jesus - knowing him as a person in my mind. ▪︎As I read the Bible - Jesus's own words, I asked him to explain things so that I may understand. ▪︎Soon, I felt there was too much conflict with what I learned from the Bible against that preached by pastors and visiting evangelists. ▪︎I left the church after the first Sunday's service in 2000, to continue learning from Jesus. Now I have Jesus, as a person in my heart. Since you asked, this morning I took time to look back all 34 years ago, to review my journey. And I was delightfully surprised to see a recognizable a pattern in which I was raised up by Jesus. Let me explain. ▪︎1. Firstly, I realised that it was Jesus who led me to experience him. ° I didn't even know then that experiencing the reality of him and God, is the very essence of it all. ° There are distinct phases, rather a curriculum that was designed specifically me, for each part of my development. ° The journey starts with: God chosing who He will send to Jesus, and after discipleship under Jesus, and it ends with the Father receiving them unto Himself. ▪︎2. It was Jesus who chose what and when I should learn - he has had a syllabus, encapsulating my entire education ... into all understanding. ° Whenever I read a verse of Jesus, I am given understanding, and that understanding opens up yet another door to understanding, and it repeats on. ° All these understandings in passages here and there, kept me enthralled to the extent that I just couldn't stop reading God’s words. ° Sometimes, the Holy Spirit would teach me something I never knew, then I saw, in my next reading of the Bible, that very lesson he taught me earlier! ° After a reading, I obtained a pictorial understanding adding to the whole. On the next reading, I receive yet a richer understanding to add to the whole. ° The syllabus, I must say, is a systematically prepared programme to raise a spiritual infant into adulthood. ▪︎3. It was Jesus who led me from sinfulness into righteousness ° Jesus knows me - all my desires, concerns, ambitions, and all other things good, bad or neutral. ° He would create a situation, in real life - a trial that I must go through in order to learn righteousness or to rid off my sin-nature. ° If I should fail the test, or if I pulled back, he would press on, lessen the weight, or he would let go and redo the trial at a later time. ° During this trying period, Jesus would show himself through miracles to profound, enough to make me bow down in tears of immeasurable happiness. ° Depending on one's degree of unrighteousness and one's quickness to learn from the tests, this cleansing period could take years. For me, it was 32 years! ° During this stage, spiritual warfare is rife. It was, for me, a frightful period, for I was once involved in the occult, and demons made their claims on me. ° For those God has chosen (Mt 22:14), they will undergo yet a final phase - "patient endurance", the most painful part of training to make them servants of God. And now, I am in Jesus, and Jesus is in me. Jesus is in the Father, the Father in him, and the Father in me. I speak daily to my Father and to my Lord, in conversations, and when I ask I am given. Jn 14:14 Jn 16:23 So, you see, it was God and His Son who led me to experience them. Perhaps, it was easier for me than it is going to be for you. Why? Because, when I started 34 years ago, I wasn't too much contaminated by false teachings, and it was not that impossible to reject what I have learned before. For you, you have already been steeped into knowledge that are not from God - that's why you thirst. There are costs to pay, for you, as it was for me. It will take ▪︎considerable courage and effort to empty yourself of everything you were taught previously. An old wineskin will burst when filled with new wine. Mt 9:17 ▪︎conscious willingness to accept and undergo pain and hardship, chastisements from friends, during, or at least in the initial cleansing of your soul (Pt 3 above). These are the real costs of eternal life, which only a few are willing to pay. But nothing is impossible with God! If you make a firm commitment with God, He will not reject you, for He is faithful and just. But if you don't, and you continue as before, then you ought to know that you have rejected Him. I pray that you will be strong to choose to follow Jesus. May the LORD God give you wisdom and courage for this very moment of yours.
59:46 I have seen many “miracles” of physical healing. As I have embraced him as my king (perfect likeness of God) and focused my heart and mind on his kingdom inside me, these experiences of heaven and earth connecting, have not only become more frequent but his love and manifested depth of his good will have far exceeded my wildest dreams or understanding. I have often been left wondering how much more there could be if his love has so absolutely broken the mind of the living but dead man that I was. Thank you Jesus
Wright speaks of blunders in the West, hinting that Eastern Christians understand the truth more fully. I'd love to hear from him at length on that topic. We can only bring the biblical scene into focus by looking through a patristic lens.
The Christian god Jesus is satan the devil and he is not coming back Christians worship satan with a human sacrifice of Jesus to satan You’ve been deceived Repent accept jahovah and do good works
There’s a little joke about a young boy in church asking his Grandfather the meaning of various things he sees around him in the church . When the minister gets up to preach and takes off his watch and puts it down on the lectern the lad asks ‘ Grandpa what does mean’ The Grandfather leans over and whispers “ Absolutely nothing my boy - absolutely nothing !” 😄( No aspersions cast on the wonderful Dr Wright !! )
Wow! Somebody experiences things like I do! Leonard Coen, those works struck me in such a devastating way that I had to find out more... Eventually became a Christian. not nearly as deep but what also influenced me was Uriah Heap! "Easy living" and others. the Byrds, "turn turn turn", many other similar.
May I, respectfully, point out that - as the ex-Bishop of Durham - Dr Wright's title is the Rt Revd; as he remains a consecrated Bishop in the Church of England. To be Bishop of Durham is not to simply be "a bishop". After Canterbury and York, the three senior bishoprics of the Church of England are Durham, London and Winchester: but only the Bishop of Durham sports the coronet of a 'prince' around the base of his mitre, in his Coat-of-Arms: demonstrating his historic rank as Count Palatine of Durham. It is tragic that Bishop Wright returned to 'academia', with the result that the Church of England is saddled with a non-Theologian occupying the Chair of Augustine, as Archbishop of Canterbury. Had Tom Wright been translated to Canterbury, from Durham, the current parlous state of the C of E might have been avoided. The Church of England's loss is the Episcopalian Church of Scotland's gain!
Mark Dyer I would point out, respectfully, that all of these man-made traditions and titles are completely out of sorts with anything for which Jesus died. No one knows that better than Tom. It’s useless political nonsense unfit for the kingdom.
@@Rickkelley365 I agree with you entirely: CHURCHianity is not CHRISTianity. I was simply - as an ex-student of Durham - pointing out what I know, heraldically, of how the senior bishops of the Church of England are ranked. Theologically, I like Tom Wright's Christology; but - as with most Evangelicals - he becomes a thoroughgoing Biblical fundamentalist when it comes to sex.
I lost my father a year ago...he was Catholic. I was part of a reformed, Calvinistic type church from a big name pastor...almost my entire adult relationship was to evangelize my father...even at the very end, told my dad he seemed to be under law rather than grace as I understood the gospel. I miss my dad. I tell myself he had his life to repent. This past year I have really searched, asked from men who are supposed to be spiritual leaders accountable before God to share truth disagree with each other, even to the point that I ask, "Are these men aware their message, their interpretation will impact people...my dad, your dad, your son or daughter, grand mother?" We detach from people when people are sons and daughters, mother and fathers... Why don't I ever hear a friend frustrated with so much conflict in the evangelical church itself...reformed, calvinism, methodism, baptist, southern baptist, charismatic, etc... ONE bible, many denominations are feeling they have THE correct truth! Why would God make faith SO complex? ...whoever answers me will come from their tradition yes? and thus believe their message is the correct one.
@@monicaindrawan1415 --i want to hear NT speak on Mt 7...many believed on his name but... he speaks a lot about 1st century thinking, but is that biblical thinking? he does not often take the 1 century thought then explain scripture...if we dont explain scripture, then history becomes the "source"...this is an empty grave...it goes nowhere and will never unite
I have been on this journey to know God for 20 years. I spent much time reading systematic theology and apologetics. Listened to many good teachers from David Pawson to Timothy Keller. Discussed with Christians of various denominations. I was most confused with theology. Some believers constructed their theology by picking verses from various books to justify their theology but most do not know any theology except Jesus saves and am on the way to heaven. I came to the following conclusions - 1. Everyone will find a pair of worldview spectacles to understand the bible. 2. Because we are human, we will have our prejudices and bias, and limitations. 3. Because we read the bible through translations, we can only get the approximate original meaning. 4. Conclusion - we will only have the approximate truth, and never going get it right and certainly not all can agree on set of doctrines, not even within denominations. I restarted my journey to seek God when I asked who started Christianity. I came to the conclusion that it was Paul although Paul did not say so and most Christians were offended that I did not say it is Christ. Nevertheless, I started to study Galatians, Romans and Hebrew and became convinced that getting Paul right on the gospel and then construct a framework through biblical narratives gave me better clarity. Reading the 4 Gospels rebalance the perspectives. Jesus and Paul teachings combined to give clarity. I then begin to follow Wright's teachings. The fundamental difference is traditional evangelical doctrines came out of the Reformation with Calvin. It emphasized and magnifies that the gospel is - we are saved by grace to faith. There is nothing wrong with this statement except that if we believe in this to be saved and go to heaven, we have got Christianity completely wrong according to Paul. To me the gospel is God's plan to restore creation by his Kingdom through Christ and the covenanted people. Wright puts it another way - one God, one People, one Future. It is all about God, not me. To fully understand this requires us to read the bible through narratives and their historical context to fully grasp what what was really said. Therefore, I encourage you to study Galatians, Romans and Hebrews and seek God. If we truly seek God, we will surely find him. We are certainly saved by grace through faith. But saved for what and faith in what. Go back to the gospel to get the answer. If we acknowledge Jesus is the Messiah King and God by his death and resurrection, we join his covenanted people and Kingdom. Salvation is found only in this gospel.
21:48"...the idea of placing Jesus in a box is already ridiculous, they tried that once and it didn't work."...."...on His head were many crowns; and He had a name written, that no man knew, but He Himself." (Rev 19:12)
This dichotomy of Faith and History is a problem we don’t have in the Orthodox Church, fortunately. The Holy Fathers of 400 AD are just as current and alive for us as the saints of yesteryear and the saints of today.
I spent many years in religious academia and was treated to wave after wave of professors all professing to have "re-discovered" some unknown or repressed "True Jesus". They all burn out in the end.
They are like JFK conspiracy theory authors of last century. They know they have so many years to cash in and sell their book They know more books are published all the time and they will get relegated to the dust biin.
As N.T. Wright says (if I understand it correctly) the scholars at that time Knew where the Messiah was going to be born, what he was going to do, how he was going to accomplish it. And They Were Wrong. Now today scholars studying End Times Know What is going to happen, dozens of books are published every years telling us with great authority What's is going to happen....But What..Just What if they are just as wrong as the scholars of that day? Food for thought.
Brilliant observation, I cannot think of anything that has so driven people away from Christianity as the overemphasizing, over promotion of End Times doctrine. It's underlying theme, intended or not that Christ didn't complete his purpose while on earth and the ever changing pretzel theology, to say on one hand "it's almost here" but on the other, "it's in the future."
@@edmonddantes3640 IMO there are 2 reasons people reject Christianity 1. We are often our own worst enemy (MYSELF Included). Just because someone is a Christian does not prevent them from being a. A Jerk b. Dumber than dirt, c. Both. 2. Ivvictus William Henley (Snip) "It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul." ________________________________________ Of Course As Always I..Could..Be..Wrong
@@stevenwiederholt7000 I agree, as to your first point, we Christians and l most definitely include myself, too many times present ourselves as leaning on the Cross and telling others " You need to get some of this." while we should have one arm secure around the Cross and reaching out with the other wanting to share what saved us, gives us an answer to life's challenges. Ravi Zacharias was right on point when he said " What the world wants to see is a life that is consistent without preaching, where the Spirit dwells." A friend of mine at work who, l think, deeply reflects that statement, one time let frustration get the best of him and let fly with some pretty impressive exclamations, (and I was in the Navy) We just stood there startled, he looked at us, grinned and said " I'm a Christian, just not very good at it." We roared with laughter, couldn't stop for quite awhile. As for the second, it's not a coincidence that one of the most popular songs played at secular memorial services is My WAY. 😏
@@stevenwiederholt7000 Have you listened to Wright's address How God Became King, here on YT? He goes even further about End Times, give it a listen when you have a chance if you haven't already. Please excuse the lengthy replys but it's a comfort to know there's other Christians thinking outside the traditional legalistic box. Fair Winds, brother.
It wasn't 'his' work he did, remember Luke 3:48-49. he was always about his Father's work. If we look at Isaiah 66:1; the house is the body; and because no one would make their body a house for Him, He did it Himself, He put his Ruach in a "borrowed" seed(ovarian egg)of a woman who's husband to be was of the line of David, as was the woman Miriam. Yes, Yeshua fulfilled all the prophecies in the old testament, and what happened was as the parable of the wicked husbandmen(Matthew21:33 -46). We cannot stop the destruction of the world as we know it, but we can save souls through Yeshua. That is our challenge. Shalom.
The Jesus I do know is exalted in heaven with all power and authority. He is all that the Father is and He and the Father are one. All the fullness of the deity lives in Him. So knowing the Son who was before the world began and who is the same forever is good enough. Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. They will "all" know me from the "least" of you This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time,” declares the Lord. “I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. 34No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’ because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest,” Christ in us is how God writes this covenant Jesus introduced in His blood on our hearts. We serve God in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. "In Spirit and truth" A inward circumcision of the heart by the Spirit of Christ is those who God calls His children.
“No wonder we never really knew Jesus.” … ? And now we do? Do we? I’m listening. I don’t hear much! Who’ll be the next to knock off this latest wisdom? Is God so obscure? Was “perspicuity” not the case, after all? Is it now the case? What of the “hoi poloi” today, and the implied sincere ones who apparently didn’t know the Jesus that some experts now say they didn’t know after all? Is one now to look back in unbelief at the belief that was said to be saving faith? Was it not instrumental after all? I’ll listen to the follow-up presentations and hope to see this light which Dr Wright implies. My concern is that the meta implied in such reversals leaves most people wondering what it’s about, how relevant God is to them, whether to expect yet another reversal, must they become NT scholars to know what must be known? Religious pecking orders are not helpful.
Jesus Promises Another Helper/Comforter God is Holy and God is Spirit therefore God is the Holy Spirit. Written in John 4:24 “God is Spirit” who is the Spirit of Love and Truth, which is and was the Word from the beginning. The Word became flesh (Jesus) and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. Matthew 3:16-17 > “He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him.” --- Mark 1:10-11 > “He saw the heavens parting and the Spirit descending upon Him like a dove.” --- Luke 3:22 > “The Holy Spirit descended in bodily form like a dove upon Him,” --- John 1:29-34 > “I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and He remained upon Him.” At this time John said, “There comes One after me who is mightier than I, whose sandal strap I am not worthy to stoop down and loose. I indeed baptized you with water, but He will baptize you with The Holy Spirit.” > John 14:21 “He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will manifest Myself to him.” --- “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.” > 1 John 3:9 > “Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.” > 1 John 4:8 > “He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.” > 1 John 5:18 > “We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.” > John 17:22-23 > “The glory which You gave Me I have given the them, and they may be one just as We are One: I in them, and You in Me; that they may be prefect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and loved them as You loved Me.” Written in John 14:30 Jesus said “I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming, and he has nothing in Me.”, but also He said that He and Father will send another Helper as written in John 14:16 > “I will prayer the Father, and He will give you another Helper”, and in John 16:7 > “It is to advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.” , and when He comes, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: of sin, because they do not believe in Me; of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.” Before Jesus when went to His Father to be glorified together with glory He had with His Father before the world was < (John 17:5), He said to His disciple, “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.” < John 16:12. The things that they could not bear has been revealed to John in ‘The Revelation’. The ruler of this world is Satan the devil that has succeeded to deceive the whole world as written in ‘The Revelation’ > “--- Satan deceived the whole world:” < (Rev. 12:9 + Rev. 13:11-18 + Rev. 18:23). The ruler of this world is the Devil that showed Jesus all the kingdoms of the world and their glory and said to Jesus, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory, for this has been delivered to me, and I will give it to whomever I wish. Therefore if You will worship before me, all will be Yours.” < (Matthew 4:8 and Luke 4:5). Also, after Jesus was glorified together with His Father < John 17:5, Jesus introduced Himself to John with His New Name < (Rev. 3:12) saying, as written in Rev. 1:8, saying to John what is new, “I am Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” And also, the One like the Son of Man said to John in Rev. 1:17-18 > “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, and am alive forevermore.”, and written in Rev. 21:5-7 that He who sat on the throne said to John, ‘Behold, I make all things new’. --- ‘Write, for these words are true and faithful.’ --- ‘It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last. --- He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son.” The Son of the Alpha and the Omega shall inherit all things as written in Rev. 3:21, Rev. 3:12, Rev. 3:5, Rev. 2:26-28, Rev. 2:17, Rev. 2:11, and Rev. 2:17. Also written to he who overcomes in Rev. 2:8-10; Jesus speaking, “See, I have set before you an open door, and no one can shut it” --- “indeed I will make those them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you. Because you have kept My command to preserve, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which will come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.” In Rev. 5:1-7 it says that a strong angel proclaimed with a loud voice, “Who is worthy to open the scroll and to loose its seals?” --- John wept much because he found no one worthy, but one of the elders said to John, “Do not weep”, because in the midst of the throne stood a Lamb as though it had been slain who was worthy to take the scroll out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne. This Lamb that was found worthy is the Son of the Alpha and the Omega who sit on the throne. “He (the Son of the Alpha and the Omega who sit on the throne) He had a written that no one knew except Himself, ---. And His name is called The Word of God.” < Rev. 19:12-13. He who sits on the throne has revealed to Him who overcomes that he shall inherit all things as written in Rev. 21:5-7. He who sat on the throne said to John, “Behold, I make all things new.” Who will be able to bear what is new here. When Jesus introduced Himself to John in the time period of ‘The Revelation’ saying, “I am Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”, He was no longer the Lamb of God the Christ/Messiah. This is why Jesus spoke of another Helper, who is another Lamb to come. As Jesus was the Son of His Father, the Lamb that was found in the midst of the throne (Rev. 5:6) is the Son of the Alpha and the Omega who sits on the throne. John 16:10 > “--- I go to My Father and you see Me no more;” and written in Luke 13:35 + Matthew 23:39 Jesus said, “I say to you, you shall not see Me you until the time comes when you say”, “Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.” When He comes ---> “He will glorify Me, all things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.” < John 16:14-15. The Son of He who sits on the throne shall inherit all things as written in Rev. 21:5-7. Written in Rev. 2:26-28 > “He who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations - He shall rule them (nations) with a rod of iron; They (nations) shall be dashed to pieces like the potter’s vessels - as I also received from My Father; and I will give him the Morning Star. It is written in Rev. 6:12-17 that they will say, “--- Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able the to stand?” --- Rev. 5:13 > “Blessing and honor and glory and power be to Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, forever and ever.” --- Rev. 7:10 > “Salvation belongs to our God (Jesus) who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” --- Rev. 19:12-13 > This Lamb had a written that no one knew except Himself, because He is the Son of Him who sits on the throne. And His name is called The Word of God.” - Amen.
Religious nonsense! Historians agree that the gospels (written in Greek, by unknown authors, from 70 to 140CE) portray Jesus as famous far and wide, a prophet and healer, with great multitudes of people who knew about him, including the greatest Jewish high priests and the Roman authorities of the area, and not one person records his existence during his lifetime? If the poor, the rich, the rulers, the highest priests, and the scribes knew about Jesus, who would not have heard of him? Amazingly, we have not one Jewish, Greek, or Roman writer, even those who lived in the Middle East, much less anywhere else on the earth, whoever mention him during his supposed life time. This appears quite extraordinary, and you will find few Christian apologists who dare mention this embarrassing fact. All myth! Seek the truth!
*God gave the earth to Man.* God did not need to become a man so that he could rule over the earth, he has always been and will always be, sovereign over all of Creation. *God is One and is eternal.* God cannot die. *Jesus was a man, who, as is stated numerous times in Scripture, is the SON of God.* He will return to earth in order to rule over the earth as God's human representative.
Did any Christian ever "Ask God if He had any Sons"? Has anyone "ASKED"? Why wouldn't you "Ask"? What does KJV "John 1:12-13" mean? ...Is it the "Main Gospel of Jesus"???
This is a superb riposte to the modern, anti-Christian (often not anti-Islam!) 'woke' amateur 'theologian', who will accept Plutarch's evidence for the existence of Alexander the Great (for whom, there is scarcely any contemporaneous evidence!); but not the Epistles of Paul, with regard to the existence of Jesus of Nazareth; the genuine ones of which must have been written only a few years following his crucifixion and resurrection; and which 'enclose' even earlier credal hymns, such as that found in Philippians 2. There is a real 'fear' of Christianity within our secular 'woke' circles today; and I have no idea to what we might attribute this hostility. Could it be Christian 'fundamentalism'? Islamic is worse: and that gets a free pass! So, what is it about Christianity, which so irks the modern 'secular' mind-set, such that they will seek to persecute a Christian wearing a cross around the neck; but not a Moslem woman wearing the Hijab?
@@edmonddantes3640 Bless you Edmond. Having been outside of 'Churchianity' since the 1970s, I have had to struggle to retain my faith in the Father and our Lord, Jesus. This has involved a lot of reading, and prayer, whilst trying to carry out a 'day-job' as a Registered Nurse. Now retired, I can really get down to it.
God himself, in the last analysis, must be the only source of knowledge with regard to his own being and relations. A H Strong Jesus is only revealed to us by revelation, the Jesus of intellectual calculations is an imaginary Jesus. As John Owen once said - an imaginary Jesus will lead only to an imaginary salvation. *John **6:44** No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.*
The world has been for a long time engaged in writing lives of Jesus... The library of such books has grown since then. But when we come to examine them, one startling fact confronts us: all of these books relate to a personage concerning whom there does not exist a single scrap of contemporary information -- not one! By accepted tradition he was born in the reign of Augustus, the great literary age of the nation of which he was a subject. In the Augustan age historians flourished; poets, orators, critics and travellers abounded. Yet not one mentions the name of Jesus Christ, much less any incident in his life. - Moncure D. Conway [1832 - 1907] (Modern Thought) Jesus is all myth! Seek the truth!
" Yet not one mentions the name of Jesus Christ, much less any incident in his life." ACTUALLY 13 DIFFERENT CONTEMPORARY HISTORIANS OF JESUS TIME COMMENTED ON THE EXISTENCE of CHRIST. WHEN YOU SEEK OUT INFORMATION BY WHICH YOU CAN SERVE YOUR OWN IMAGINATION and WISHES YOU LIVE ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN IMAGINATION and WISHES. YOU ARE THE VERY THING YOU ARE ACCUSING THESE OTHERS HERE OF BEING.
Pierre M Yes, all are fools except Pierre; who claims to know ‘the truth’.... Yet No One of any modern credibility, or weight of renown and achievement, ever mentions ‘Pierre’- Seems very clear that Pierre’s presumption of knowledge and clarity is surely a Myth-
If you preach like this no one would really come to know Jesus revealed in the scripture but secularized Jesus a different Jesus than what the apostles preached.
Respectfully, then you don't understand the concept of the trinity. Jesus is also Yahweh. Just like the Holy Spirit is also Yahweh. One essence, 3 persons. Jesus as the Son does not imply biological relationship, it implies Son as a title.
The Qu'ran contradict historical facts as the Jesus crucifixion. Muhammad was a warlord and polygamist unworthy to be a messenger to the people of the book.
@@joebaxley1503 Think about what you said.. "regardless" of who Jesus was... Regardless means without regard or consideration of "Regardless of who he was" Jesus is God, which is why his sacrifice is sufficient. Only God has the power to be a satisfactory payment for Death. Jesus said God the Father is greater, yet God the Father says that He judges no one, that right is given to the Son. Jesus in his fully human form is lesser than God the Father, but in his Diety, he is equal. Which is why Jesus is the propitiation that satisfied all claims, because God is the only payment that would satisfy the debt of Sin. So yes, it does matter who Jesus is, and in the context of "God".
What i find fascinating about what you are calling a "climax of postmodernity in the 18th century" was the explosion of denominations in America during that time. I Can see where you would think this is a bad thing. But it's definitely worth a serious debate. Slowly the concept of high church and low church as was in Britain, dissolved. I'm not implying who is right and who is wrong in their theology, I am simply celebrating that debate of such distinctions was finally acceptable. Its also weird that most Brits tend to think in terms of a collective and any focus on a sovereign individual is considered "selfish". I am mindful that most of the British collective exhalted a human as head of what was a state Church funded by taxpayers. What is selfish is trying to control others through politics, weaponizing scripture, etc. I think the concept of inherent individual rights by God and the sovereign individual is a product of God's creation and His gift of free will. That is hard to justify when you have the history a king or queen as a ruler or now, seen as "role model". I hardly see the point. The monarchy has been reinventing themselves for centuries so it cannot be tradition. Another amusing consideration is where your "English" state Church originated. Henry the 8th. A brutal bloody ruler.
N.T.Wright never knew the true Jesus who say : '' I AM'' who say: ''Me and the Father are one'' who say: ''If you see me you see the Father'' who say: '' I AM the light''' the Jesus of the bible is Yahweh manifested in flesh as the sacrificial Lamb for to saves is people.If you see Jesus you see the Father ! This is the biblical Jesus.Only ONE God the Father who came in bodily form.
So God became flesh and sacrificed himself to himself to convince himself to forgive us ? NO Jesus was a MAN and that is why he could die. God cannot be tempted.
Jesus :i am a man#church fathers no you are a god :“Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God.” John 8:39-40. Jesus is a man : “Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.” Luke 22:42. Jesus is a man : Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. #Mark 10:17-31 records Jesus' interaction with a rich young ruler. The man said to Jesus, "Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?" (Mark 10:17). Jesus started His response with, "Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone" (Mark 10:18)
"WHY" did Jesus raise from the "Dead"? The Very Specific Answer will "Surprise You". It's "Very, Very Important". Why? Ask God about it. God does Answer Your Questions, ...right? What is the "Trinity"? Did "God Explain it yet"? Did U ever ASK?
Wright is so condescending toward what he describes as the western church, as if we have no clue who Jesus is. The Bible tells us exactly who Jesus is. We know Jesus through the scriptures. We can know that we know Him and we can know that we are not mistaken. Scripture makes this very clear. When someone gives an hour and a half lecture about Jesus without quoting scripture once, he is not a trust worthy teacher. Be able to discern the difference between a spirit led teacher carefully illuminating the scriptures to show you who Jesus is, and a man who is simply up his in own intellect telling you who he thinks Jesus is…
This is a lecture not a sermon. The 'western church', right along side the 'culture,' have been in spiritual and moral decline for at least the last 50 years and likely closer to 100 years. Where was the 'church' when the Supreme Court decided that prayer had no place in schools? Where was the 'church' when that same court decided that it was OK to murder your preborn baby? Where was the 'church' when it was decided than two men or women can be married? Jesus spoke to the culture of His day, as well as clarifying the teachings of the Law and the Prophets. They are not mutually exclusive. The 'western church' has spent more time navel gazing over the past century than influencing the 'culture' and building the Kingdom.
Here on YT, there is a video of Christians allowing a Muslim cleric to call the believers to prayer in the church founded by Martin Luther in Germany. When a woman member verbally objected, SHE was escorted out of the Church. Few Mainstream Western Christian churches stand for Truth, they are relativistic appeasers, those like that woman who call them out are called haters Examples of true Christianity are in the Near, Middle and Far East and Africa, they suffer persecution and rejoice in it.
"The best cure for christianity is reading the bible" , (Mark Twain) "The bible has driven reason from the minds of millions,It has made credulity the greatest of virtues,and investigation the greatest of crimes,The instant we admit that a book is too sacred to be doubted or even reasoned about.we are mental serfs," How long will mankind worship a book?How long will it grovel in the dust before the ignorant legends of the barbaric past" , (Robert Ingersoll) Most of what discredits christianity comes from within christianity,You don't have to go outside of religion to tear it apart." (Dan Barker) The Bible writers >"Some of them,as it were in a drunken state producing self induced visions, remodel their gospel from its first written form,and reform it so that they may be able to refute the objections brought against it". ( Roman philosopher Celsus )
Let me ask you- How can The Creator of Space and Time be contained in His Creation, Space and Time? How finite dimensions be associated with an infinite Trancendent Being, in other words how can Jesus, who is a being that is defined by a body, flesh and blood be at the same time God, who by definition is an Eternal Being out of Time? Don't you think that a religion that claims to be an authentic correspondence of reality, should be both intellectually and spiritually satisfying?
@@abdullahimusa9761 akhi its a pagan religion without logic or common sense. there were Sixteen Crucified pagans Saviours before jesus .christianity is a copy and paste.
@@auzdeee Your inability to fathom anything beyond your nose is no reflection of the truth you cannot see. Seems like your replys are copy and paste, off the same old tiresome atheist crib sheet. I note it's been a year and you've never answered......typical.
For 1st time I listened to 2 other lectures by Wright today. Unexplainably, i was so moved throughout that i broke out crying a half dozen times. God is using this man for those with ears to hear and hearts open .
Jesus is the devil
Repent accept jahovah and do good works
I've had similar experiences. Confronted with the fullness of the glory of Jesus Christ, how can you not be moved?
I can confirm too, that what you see in him is what you get in private 😊
If there were a god, then would there be any demand for scripture interpretations by various podium-jockeys using fantasyland vocabulary?
We really should address the social acceptance of large numbers of people speaking a fantasyland vocabulary & openly indulging in the deceit of religious belief as a tool of fascism.
These are the wolves in sheep's clothing, we know them by their works:
A wicked generation seeking signs when Jesus The Nailed says faith is worthless if you can't move mountains by issuing verbal orders to one.
Freud wrote the antidote to Christianity is literacy.
The Christians slapped their books on the Old Testament, & the Mormons glued theirs on to them both, thus proving Christians lack quality-control.
Look at the verbose podium jockey speaking of faith & prayer as if we all should have a preference for travel with one foot in fantasyland.
Nothing fails like prayer in a children's hospital, & there is talk as if God does not have a perfect record of doing nothing, as if we had no reason for the saying: God helps those helping themselves.
A house divided cannot stand.
We vote because Christians have no quality-controls, & we desire those governing not making suggestions travel is best done with one foot in someone's fantasyland.
'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.''
It was secular law & order ending the inquisitions & witch-killings.
One might expect a deity to make itself known to everyone without work performed in interpretations of old literature by guys like our verbose podium jockey.
Theologians acquire grand titles without certification from a deity, & project certainty using fantasyland vocabulary in an academic setting to compensate for lack of reason.
Absolutely 💯❤️🔥
In this age of accommodating ever decreasing attention spans such that we totally loose the message and meaning of the gospel I say Bravo to NT Wright and Perkins for this deep dive into history and the story of Jesus and challenging the listener to do the same. Again I say Bravo!
thank you Mr. Wright. This was a profoundly beautiful message. it will take me several listens to soak in all the beautiful concepts and spiritual insights that you delivered here
Skip to 8:30 where Wright begins.
Vance Russell omg thank you
Vance Russell
Much appreciated
Vance Russell
Thank You.
Thanks, I was about to give up
My man
What articulation of a difficult yet simple subject. I never knew it was so complex! Wow!! I am amazed and enlightened!
Amazing and wonderful! I’ve listened to this 3 or 4 times. It’s so rich and powerful. Jesus, so beautiful, yet so often misunderstood :-)
If anyone comprehended Jesus in his own true light, they too would be a Savior....
'No empire is going to bother about people who cultivate a private spirituality and an escapist soteriology.' Spot on!
This cuts at the heart of many false ideas permeated in modern Christianity in the 18th, 19th, 20th and 21st centuries. It returns to the expectations and convictions of Jewish thought during the 1st century and centuries leading up to it. Bravo! let us let God's word speak to us as it did to them in that age, the beginning of the new age with it's new creation begun through resurrection. let our hearts and minds participate with and in Him in whom Life of the age to come is revealed.
Expectations of Jewish thought. You mean like the expectation of murdering yet another prophet and rejecting Him like all the rest?
Stop with the Jewish Supremacy.
Bravo Blessed is HE who comes in the name of the Lord.
The Gospel as Enlightenment. How novel! Wish more bishops would take that to heart.
simply brilliant! I could listen to him all day.
Did you know he gave pastor John Lambert a job at a church in England even though he was in France and had children who were moved out their county to England?
I always learn something so interesting listening to Reverend Wright. He knows more in 1 of his brain cells than I do in my entire brain.
What did you learn from him? I'm not being sarcastic but just want to see if I'm getting him right.
Hahaha - I'm that way, too!!
This man has become such a blessing to my life, God took one of my heroes in the faith, Ravi Zacharias home and He blessed me with this amazing gentleman
Same!
Wonder if the young women Ravi molested considered him a hero in the faith? People of faith have very strange heroes.
@@TRE601 the person, Zacharias Wright , would have us direct our attention too is Jesus. As for Ravi, at what part of ministry did fail, did he become involved in adultery, I doubt it was there from the start. His immorality does not mean his apologetics were wrong.😊qshe I'll😊😊😊😊😊
@@TRE601 the perfect message was delivered by a corrupt messenger as we all are to varying degrees.
Comments here are typical of what passes for Christianity. Excuses for pure evil. What good is a message that you deem correct that had absolutely no bearing on his own life? You people are so disgustingly shallow. And when you say all Messengers are flawed. Does that mean they are all molesting young girls? Are you one of those people who thinks all sin is the same. Thanks for letting me know I'll keep my children away from people like you.
This man's language is so poetic and full of meaning! Impressive lecture.
I was so touched by the Jeusus I never knew. It's raised by view of Jesus. I've shared it in an email to most of my friends this wonderful video and I've listened to it twice and will many more times. The Lord be praised.
Many late night cups of tea and NT Wright will do during these times of isolation. Thank you for uploading.
I have been on this journey to know God for 20 years. I spent much time reading systematic theology and apologetics. Listened to many good teachers from David Pawson to Timothy Keller. Discussed with Christians of various denominations. I was most confused with theology. Some believers constructed their theology by picking verses from various books to justify their theology but most do not know any theology except Jesus saves and am on the way to heaven. I came to the following conclusions -
1. Everyone will find a pair of worldview spectacles to understand the bible.
2. Because we are human, we will have our prejudices and bias, and limitations.
3. Because we read the bible through translations, we can only get the approximate original meaning.
4. Conclusion - we will only have the approximate truth, and never going get it right and certainly not all can agree on set of doctrines, not even within denominations.
I restarted my journey to seek God when I asked who started Christianity. I came to the conclusion that it was Paul although Paul did not say so and most Christians were offended that I did not say it is Christ. Nevertheless, I started to study Galatians, Romans and Hebrew and became convinced that getting Paul right on the gospel and then construct a framework through biblical narratives gave me better clarity. Reading the 4 Gospels rebalance the perspectives. Jesus and Paul teachings combined to give clarity.
I then begin to follow Wright's teachings.
The fundamental difference is traditional evangelical doctrines came out of the Reformation with Calvin. It emphasized and magnifies that the gospel is - we are saved by grace to faith. There is nothing wrong with this statement except that if we believe in this to be saved and go to heaven, we have got Christianity completely wrong according to Paul. To me the gospel is God's plan to restore creation by his Kingdom through Christ and the covenanted people. Wright puts it another way - one God, one People, one Future. It is all about God, not me. To fully understand this requires us to read the bible through narratives and their historical context to fully grasp what what was really said.
Therefore, I encourage you to study Galatians, Romans and Hebrews and seek God. If we truly seek God, we will surely find him.
We are certainly saved by grace through faith. But saved for what and faith in what. Go back to the gospel to get the answer. If we acknowledge Jesus is the Messiah King and God by his death and resurrection, we join his covenanted people and Kingdom. Salvation is found only in this gospel.
We are certainly not going to be saved by the present reiteration of Epicurianism. The Woke pretends to set the record straight on the 18th Centrury but only as a grandson sets himself over his grandfather.
@SgironFox,
You said you have tried for 20 years searching for God.
Please allow me to share the following with you.
#1. Eternal life is conditional .... you need to know both God and Jesus Christ.
Jn 17:3
"And this is the way to have eternal life-to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth."
#2. To get to know God, there's only one way...Jesus’s Way!
Jn 14:6
Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me"
#3. To get to know Jesus..... love, obey and follow him! Put everybody aside, seek Jesus onlyl
Jn 14:21
"Those who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones who love me. And because they love me, my Father will love them.
And I will love them and reveal myself to each of them.”
#4. To obey Jesus's commandments, ...take up your cross, die daily to your sin-nature, endure pain and hardship, and keep close to Jesus.
Mat 10:38
"If you refuse to take up your cross and follow me, you are not worthy of being mine."
#5. To follow Jesus and be discipled.... accept Jesus as your one and only Master - Teacher and Lord.
Jn 13:13
"You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and you are right, because that’s what I am."
You see -
▪︎you tried learning from too many wrong teachers, including Paul - they are not equipped to be your teacher.
▪︎you have not come directly to Jesus, whom God sent- he is more than able to be your Teacher and Saviour.
I myself have traversed the full stretch of Jesus's way (Jn 14:6).
I have come to the Father; I know God and I know Jesus.
As I have succeeded, so you will too, if you remain faithful to your course.
May God the Father, lead you to His Son.
@@jn5962 I agree. How do you do it in an experiential way?
@@SgIronFox
Yes, it's all experiential, and testimonies of our experiencing the reality of God is the very foundation of unyielding faith! Rev 6:9 Rev 12:11
You asked: "how do you do it in an experiential way?"
I will try to answer you in the best way I can:
▪︎In the beginning, 34 years ago, I didn't know what I had to do to reach or experience God.
▪︎I was then diagnosed with a terminal disease, and was given by doctors only a short time to live.
▪︎I called out to the "real God, whoever you are" to help me. And the LORD God - He heard me.
▪︎Some friends brought me to a church, where I "met" Jesus - knowing him as a person in my mind.
▪︎As I read the Bible - Jesus's own words, I asked him to explain things so that I may understand.
▪︎Soon, I felt there was too much conflict with what I learned from the Bible against that preached by pastors and visiting evangelists.
▪︎I left the church after the first Sunday's service in 2000, to continue learning from Jesus. Now I have Jesus, as a person in my heart.
Since you asked, this morning I took time to look back all 34 years ago, to review my journey.
And I was delightfully surprised to see a recognizable a pattern in which I was raised up by Jesus.
Let me explain.
▪︎1. Firstly, I realised that it was Jesus who led me to experience him.
° I didn't even know then that experiencing the reality of him and God, is the very essence of it all.
° There are distinct phases, rather a curriculum that was designed specifically me, for each part of my development.
° The journey starts with: God chosing who He will send to Jesus, and after discipleship under Jesus, and it ends with the Father receiving them unto Himself.
▪︎2. It was Jesus who chose what and when I should learn - he has had a syllabus, encapsulating my entire education ... into all understanding.
° Whenever I read a verse of Jesus, I am given understanding, and that understanding opens up yet another door to understanding, and it repeats on.
° All these understandings in passages here and there, kept me enthralled to the extent that I just couldn't stop reading God’s words.
° Sometimes, the Holy Spirit would teach me something I never knew, then I saw, in my next reading of the Bible, that very lesson he taught me earlier!
° After a reading, I obtained a pictorial understanding adding to the whole. On the next reading, I receive yet a richer understanding to add to the whole.
° The syllabus, I must say, is a systematically prepared programme to raise a spiritual infant into adulthood.
▪︎3. It was Jesus who led me from sinfulness into righteousness
° Jesus knows me - all my desires, concerns, ambitions, and all other things good, bad or neutral.
° He would create a situation, in real life - a trial that I must go through in order to learn righteousness or to rid off my sin-nature.
° If I should fail the test, or if I pulled back, he would press on, lessen the weight, or he would let go and redo the trial at a later time.
° During this trying period, Jesus would show himself through miracles to profound, enough to make me bow down in tears of immeasurable happiness.
° Depending on one's degree of unrighteousness and one's quickness to learn from the tests, this cleansing period could take years. For me, it was 32 years!
° During this stage, spiritual warfare is rife. It was, for me, a frightful period, for I was once involved in the occult, and demons made their claims on me.
° For those God has chosen (Mt 22:14), they will undergo yet a final phase - "patient endurance", the most painful part of training to make them servants of God.
And now, I am in Jesus, and Jesus is in me. Jesus is in the Father, the Father in him, and the Father in me.
I speak daily to my Father and to my Lord, in conversations, and when I ask I am given. Jn 14:14 Jn 16:23
So, you see, it was God and His Son who led me to experience them.
Perhaps, it was easier for me than it is going to be for you.
Why? Because, when I started 34 years ago, I wasn't too much contaminated by false teachings, and it was not that impossible to reject what I have learned before.
For you, you have already been steeped into knowledge that are not from God - that's why you thirst.
There are costs to pay, for you, as it was for me. It will take
▪︎considerable courage and effort to empty yourself of everything you were taught previously. An old wineskin will burst when filled with new wine. Mt 9:17
▪︎conscious willingness to accept and undergo pain and hardship, chastisements from friends, during, or at least in the initial cleansing of your soul (Pt 3 above).
These are the real costs of eternal life, which only a few are willing to pay.
But nothing is impossible with God!
If you make a firm commitment with God, He will not reject you, for He is faithful and just.
But if you don't, and you continue as before, then you ought to know that you have rejected Him.
I pray that you will be strong to choose to follow Jesus.
May the LORD God give you wisdom and courage for this very moment of yours.
I am so very nourished. Wonderful. Wonder-filled. The ending benediction brought it all together for me. Dr. Wright is amazing.
59:46 I have seen many “miracles” of physical healing. As I have embraced him as my king (perfect likeness of God) and focused my heart and mind on his kingdom inside me, these experiences of heaven and earth connecting, have not only become more frequent but his love and manifested depth of his good will have far exceeded my wildest dreams or understanding. I have often been left wondering how much more there could be if his love has so absolutely broken the mind of the living but dead man that I was. Thank you Jesus
I think this is the fifth time I've listened to it.
There is lot more for us to know about the Lord. Only we need to humble to learn not deceived by our knowledge and wisdom. Thanks Dr Wright.
Wright speaks of blunders in the West, hinting that Eastern Christians understand the truth more fully. I'd love to hear from him at length on that topic. We can only bring the biblical scene into focus by
looking through a patristic lens.
A "Best of Wright". Phenomenal! Lucid. Clarifying. Imminently helpful. Saving this one.
Profound doctrine and accurate description of our continuing dilemma.
I also enjoy his podcast. I always learn something listening to Tom.
Wow, this is amazing. It leads you to worship the Jesus we never knew 🙌
The Christian god Jesus is satan the devil and he is not coming back
Christians worship satan with a human sacrifice of Jesus to satan
You’ve been deceived
Repent accept jahovah and do good works
@@cwdor A Pharisee, I see.
Beautiful Truths from a Bespoke Believer……
Thanks much.
The man deserves a standing ovation. It angered me no one could have stood.
Standing ovation..not only because his message, but for his accent too
@@dobberdop Because, like Alan Watts, an Old School English accent makes religious and spiritual sophistry sound profound.
@@williamoarlock8634
Sophistry?
Perhaps you can expand that declaration a bit more precisely?
@@keithcampbell7820 The Christian god is nothing but sophistry (the "word'') and indoctrination - "The kingdom is within (indoctrinated heads)".
There's no stars in the faith but Christ alone
8:40 where Wright begins..
I love how Tom still takes his watch off to place on the lectern as his time keeper, even if the venue employs large electronic clocks for speakers.
There’s a little joke about a young boy in church asking his Grandfather the meaning of various things he sees around him
in the church . When the minister gets up to preach and takes off his watch and puts it down on the lectern the lad asks ‘ Grandpa what does mean’ The Grandfather leans over and whispers “ Absolutely nothing my boy - absolutely nothing !” 😄( No aspersions cast on the wonderful Dr Wright !! )
Indescribably brilliant!
Thank you 😢❤🙏
Well my first time listening to this talk.
Wow! Somebody experiences things like I do! Leonard Coen, those works struck me in such a devastating way that I had to find out more... Eventually became a Christian. not nearly as deep but what also influenced me was Uriah Heap! "Easy living" and others. the Byrds, "turn turn turn", many other similar.
Affluent respectable Christianity. A lovely speaker.
Man this was amazing.
First time hearing this one and I agree.
GOD BLESS YOUR MINISTRY
His books it's addictive to stop to read i read all.
Brilliant
May I, respectfully, point out that - as the ex-Bishop of Durham - Dr Wright's title is the Rt Revd; as he remains a consecrated Bishop in the Church of England. To be Bishop of Durham is not to simply be "a bishop". After Canterbury and York, the three senior bishoprics of the Church of England are Durham, London and Winchester: but only the Bishop of Durham sports the coronet of a 'prince' around the base of his mitre, in his Coat-of-Arms: demonstrating his historic rank as Count Palatine of Durham. It is tragic that Bishop Wright returned to 'academia', with the result that the Church of England is saddled with a non-Theologian occupying the Chair of Augustine, as Archbishop of Canterbury. Had Tom Wright been translated to Canterbury, from Durham, the current parlous state of the C of E might have been avoided. The Church of England's loss is the Episcopalian Church of Scotland's gain!
Mark Dyer I would point out, respectfully, that all of these man-made traditions and titles are completely out of sorts with anything for which Jesus died. No one knows that better than Tom. It’s useless political nonsense unfit for the kingdom.
@@Rickkelley365 I agree with you entirely: CHURCHianity is not CHRISTianity. I was simply - as an ex-student of Durham - pointing out what I know, heraldically, of how the senior bishops of the Church of England are ranked. Theologically, I like Tom Wright's Christology; but - as with most Evangelicals - he becomes a thoroughgoing Biblical fundamentalist when it comes to sex.
Superb
I lost my father a year ago...he was Catholic. I was part of a reformed, Calvinistic type church from a big name pastor...almost my entire adult relationship was to evangelize my father...even at the very end, told my dad he seemed to be under law rather than grace as I understood the gospel. I miss my dad. I tell myself he had his life to repent. This past year I have really searched, asked from men who are supposed to be spiritual leaders accountable before God to share truth disagree with each other, even to the point that I ask, "Are these men aware their message, their interpretation will impact people...my dad, your dad, your son or daughter, grand mother?" We detach from people when people are sons and daughters, mother and fathers... Why don't I ever hear a friend frustrated with so much conflict in the evangelical church itself...reformed, calvinism, methodism, baptist, southern baptist, charismatic, etc... ONE bible, many denominations are feeling they have THE correct truth! Why would God make faith SO complex? ...whoever answers me will come from their tradition yes? and thus believe their message is the correct one.
The Bible said believe in Jesus the Christ and you will be in personal relationship with the Father. I am sure your father believed in Jesus.
@@monicaindrawan1415 --i want to hear NT speak on Mt 7...many believed on his name but... he speaks a lot about 1st century thinking, but is that biblical thinking? he does not often take the 1 century thought then explain scripture...if we dont explain scripture, then history becomes the "source"...this is an empty grave...it goes nowhere and will never unite
Jeff
Read the word of God and stay in bible studies with others- that IS church
I have been on this journey to know God for 20 years. I spent much time reading systematic theology and apologetics. Listened to many good teachers from David Pawson to Timothy Keller. Discussed with Christians of various denominations. I was most confused with theology. Some believers constructed their theology by picking verses from various books to justify their theology but most do not know any theology except Jesus saves and am on the way to heaven. I came to the following conclusions -
1. Everyone will find a pair of worldview spectacles to understand the bible.
2. Because we are human, we will have our prejudices and bias, and limitations.
3. Because we read the bible through translations, we can only get the approximate original meaning.
4. Conclusion - we will only have the approximate truth, and never going get it right and certainly not all can agree on set of doctrines, not even within denominations.
I restarted my journey to seek God when I asked who started Christianity. I came to the conclusion that it was Paul although Paul did not say so and most Christians were offended that I did not say it is Christ. Nevertheless, I started to study Galatians, Romans and Hebrew and became convinced that getting Paul right on the gospel and then construct a framework through biblical narratives gave me better clarity. Reading the 4 Gospels rebalance the perspectives. Jesus and Paul teachings combined to give clarity.
I then begin to follow Wright's teachings.
The fundamental difference is traditional evangelical doctrines came out of the Reformation with Calvin. It emphasized and magnifies that the gospel is - we are saved by grace to faith. There is nothing wrong with this statement except that if we believe in this to be saved and go to heaven, we have got Christianity completely wrong according to Paul. To me the gospel is God's plan to restore creation by his Kingdom through Christ and the covenanted people. Wright puts it another way - one God, one People, one Future. It is all about God, not me. To fully understand this requires us to read the bible through narratives and their historical context to fully grasp what what was really said.
Therefore, I encourage you to study Galatians, Romans and Hebrews and seek God. If we truly seek God, we will surely find him.
We are certainly saved by grace through faith. But saved for what and faith in what. Go back to the gospel to get the answer. If we acknowledge Jesus is the Messiah King and God by his death and resurrection, we join his covenanted people and Kingdom. Salvation is found only in this gospel.
@@SgIronFox well said
I love to hear him put the Jesus Mythicists in their place without even trying hard.
What place is that? If it’s about “putting people in their place” I think you may have missed the point my friend.
Wooow!!
8:20 to get to the talk.
To skip introductions
8:29 Wright began talking
21:48"...the idea of placing Jesus in a box is already ridiculous, they tried that once and it didn't work."...."...on His head were many crowns; and He had a name written, that no man knew, but He Himself." (Rev 19:12)
This dichotomy of Faith and History is a problem we don’t have in the Orthodox Church, fortunately. The Holy Fathers of 400 AD are just as current and alive for us as the saints of yesteryear and the saints of today.
Gorgeous.
I know right??!!! An amazing address, Wright certainly presents it, to use on old East Texas expression, "with the bark on".
I spent many years in religious academia and was treated to wave after wave of professors all professing to have "re-discovered" some unknown or repressed "True Jesus". They all burn out in the end.
They are like JFK conspiracy theory authors of last century. They know they have so many years to cash in and sell their book They know more books are published all the time and they will get relegated to the dust biin.
As N.T. Wright says (if I understand it correctly) the scholars at that time Knew where the Messiah was going to be born, what he was going to do, how he was going to accomplish it. And They Were Wrong. Now today scholars studying End Times Know What is going to happen, dozens of books are published every years telling us with great authority What's is going to happen....But What..Just What if they are just as wrong as the scholars of that day? Food for thought.
Brilliant observation, I cannot think of anything that has so driven people away from Christianity as the overemphasizing, over promotion of End Times doctrine. It's underlying theme, intended or not that Christ didn't complete his purpose while on earth and the ever changing pretzel theology, to say on one hand "it's almost here" but on the other, "it's in the future."
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1. Don't worry I won't let it go to my head. Even though someone less humble than I might. :-)
@@edmonddantes3640
IMO there are 2 reasons people reject Christianity
1. We are often our own worst enemy (MYSELF Included). Just because someone is a Christian does not prevent them from being a. A Jerk b. Dumber than dirt, c. Both.
2. Ivvictus
William Henley
(Snip)
"It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate,
I am the captain of my soul."
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Of Course As Always I..Could..Be..Wrong
@@stevenwiederholt7000 I agree, as to your first point, we Christians and l most definitely include myself, too many times present ourselves as leaning on the Cross and telling others " You need to get some of this." while we should have one arm secure around the Cross and reaching out with the other wanting to share what saved us, gives us an answer to life's challenges.
Ravi Zacharias was right on point when he said " What the world wants to see is a life that is consistent without preaching, where the Spirit dwells."
A friend of mine at work who, l think, deeply reflects that statement, one time let frustration get the best of him and let fly with some pretty impressive exclamations, (and I was in the Navy) We just stood there startled, he looked at us, grinned and said " I'm a Christian, just not very good at it." We roared with laughter, couldn't stop for quite awhile.
As for the second, it's not a coincidence that one of the most popular songs played at secular memorial services is My WAY. 😏
@@stevenwiederholt7000 Have you listened to Wright's address How God Became King, here on YT?
He goes even further about End Times, give it a listen when you have a chance if you haven't already.
Please excuse the lengthy replys but it's a comfort to know there's other Christians thinking outside the traditional legalistic box.
Fair Winds, brother.
Love this guy… what a rock star. Modern day C.S. Lewis….
It wasn't 'his' work he did, remember Luke 3:48-49. he was always about his Father's work. If we look at Isaiah 66:1; the house is the body; and because no one would make their body a house for Him, He did it Himself, He put his Ruach in a "borrowed" seed(ovarian egg)of a woman who's husband to be was of the line of David, as was the woman Miriam. Yes, Yeshua fulfilled all the prophecies in the old testament, and what happened was as the parable of the wicked husbandmen(Matthew21:33 -46).
We cannot stop the destruction of the world as we know it, but we can save souls through Yeshua. That is our challenge.
Shalom.
Starts at 8:30
It's more of Theological talk than historical talk about jesus .
The Jesus I do know is exalted in heaven with all power and authority. He is all that the Father is and He and the Father are one. All the fullness of the deity lives in Him. So knowing the Son who was before the world began and who is the same forever is good enough.
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
They will "all" know me from the "least" of you
This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
34No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”
Christ in us is how God writes this covenant Jesus introduced in His blood on our hearts. We serve God in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. "In Spirit and truth"
A inward circumcision of the heart by the Spirit of Christ is those who God calls His children.
Message starts at 8:30
“No wonder we never really knew Jesus.” … ? And now we do? Do we? I’m listening. I don’t hear much! Who’ll be the next to knock off this latest wisdom?
Is God so obscure? Was “perspicuity” not the case, after all? Is it now the case?
What of the “hoi poloi” today, and the implied sincere ones who apparently didn’t know the Jesus that some experts now say they didn’t know after all?
Is one now to look back in unbelief at the belief that was said to be saving faith? Was it not instrumental after all?
I’ll listen to the follow-up presentations and hope to see this light which Dr Wright implies.
My concern is that the meta implied in such reversals leaves most people wondering what it’s about, how relevant God is to them, whether to expect yet another reversal, must they become NT scholars to know what must be known?
Religious pecking orders are not helpful.
Jesus was in the writings of the prophet. The apostle experienced and witness the incarnated God.
Jesus Promises Another Helper/Comforter
God is Holy and God is Spirit therefore God is the Holy Spirit. Written in John 4:24 “God is Spirit” who is the Spirit of Love and Truth, which is and was the Word from the beginning. The Word became flesh (Jesus) and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. Matthew 3:16-17 > “He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him.” --- Mark 1:10-11 > “He saw the heavens parting and the Spirit descending upon Him like a dove.” --- Luke 3:22 > “The Holy Spirit descended in bodily form like a dove upon Him,” --- John 1:29-34 > “I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and He remained upon Him.” At this time John said, “There comes One after me who is mightier than I, whose sandal strap I am not worthy to stoop down and loose. I indeed baptized you with water, but He will baptize you with The Holy Spirit.”
> John 14:21 “He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will manifest Myself to him.” --- “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.”
> 1 John 3:9 > “Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.”
> 1 John 4:8 > “He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.”
> 1 John 5:18 > “We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.”
> John 17:22-23 > “The glory which You gave Me I have given the them, and they may be one just as We are One: I in them, and You in Me; that they may be prefect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and loved them as You loved Me.”
Written in John 14:30 Jesus said “I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming, and he has nothing in Me.”, but also He said that He and Father will send another Helper as written in John 14:16 > “I will prayer the Father, and He will give you another Helper”, and in John 16:7 > “It is to advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.” , and when He comes, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: of sin, because they do not believe in Me; of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.”
Before Jesus when went to His Father to be glorified together with glory He had with His Father before the world was < (John 17:5), He said to His disciple, “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.” < John 16:12. The things that they could not bear has been revealed to John in ‘The Revelation’. The ruler of this world is Satan the devil that has succeeded to deceive the whole world as written in ‘The Revelation’ > “--- Satan deceived the whole world:” < (Rev. 12:9 + Rev. 13:11-18 + Rev. 18:23). The ruler of this world is the Devil that showed Jesus all the kingdoms of the world and their glory and said to Jesus, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory, for this has been delivered to me, and I will give it to whomever I wish. Therefore if You will worship before me, all will be Yours.” < (Matthew 4:8 and Luke 4:5).
Also, after Jesus was glorified together with His Father < John 17:5, Jesus introduced Himself to John with His New Name < (Rev. 3:12) saying, as written in Rev. 1:8, saying to John what is new, “I am Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” And also, the One like the Son of Man said to John in Rev. 1:17-18 > “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, and am alive forevermore.”, and written in Rev. 21:5-7 that He who sat on the throne said to John, ‘Behold, I make all things new’. --- ‘Write, for these words are true and faithful.’ --- ‘It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last. --- He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son.” The Son of the Alpha and the Omega shall inherit all things as written in Rev. 3:21, Rev. 3:12, Rev. 3:5, Rev. 2:26-28, Rev. 2:17, Rev. 2:11, and Rev. 2:17. Also written to he who overcomes in Rev. 2:8-10; Jesus speaking, “See, I have set before you an open door, and no one can shut it” --- “indeed I will make those them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you. Because you have kept My command to preserve, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which will come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.”
In Rev. 5:1-7 it says that a strong angel proclaimed with a loud voice, “Who is worthy to open the scroll and to loose its seals?” --- John wept much because he found no one worthy, but one of the elders said to John, “Do not weep”, because in the midst of the throne stood a Lamb as though it had been slain who was worthy to take the scroll out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne. This Lamb that was found worthy is the Son of the Alpha and the Omega who sit on the throne. “He (the Son of the Alpha and the Omega who sit on the throne) He had a written that no one knew except Himself, ---. And His name is called The Word of God.” < Rev. 19:12-13. He who sits on the throne has revealed to Him who overcomes that he shall inherit all things as written in Rev. 21:5-7.
He who sat on the throne said to John, “Behold, I make all things new.” Who will be able to bear what is new here. When Jesus introduced Himself to John in the time period of ‘The Revelation’ saying, “I am Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”, He was no longer the Lamb of God the Christ/Messiah. This is why Jesus spoke of another Helper, who is another Lamb to come. As Jesus was the Son of His Father, the Lamb that was found in the midst of the throne (Rev. 5:6) is the Son of the Alpha and the Omega who sits on the throne.
John 16:10 > “--- I go to My Father and you see Me no more;” and written in Luke 13:35 + Matthew 23:39 Jesus said, “I say to you, you shall not see Me you until the time comes when you say”, “Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.” When He comes ---> “He will glorify Me, all things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.” < John 16:14-15. The Son of He who sits on the throne shall inherit all things as written in Rev. 21:5-7. Written in Rev. 2:26-28 > “He who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations - He shall rule them (nations) with a rod of iron; They (nations) shall be dashed to pieces like the potter’s vessels - as I also received from My Father; and I will give him the Morning Star.
It is written in Rev. 6:12-17 that they will say, “--- Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able the to stand?” --- Rev. 5:13 > “Blessing and honor and glory and power be to Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, forever and ever.” --- Rev. 7:10 > “Salvation belongs to our God (Jesus) who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” --- Rev. 19:12-13 > This Lamb had a written that no one knew except Himself, because He is the Son of Him who sits on the throne. And His name is called The Word of God.” - Amen.
Religious nonsense!
Historians agree that the gospels (written in Greek, by unknown authors, from 70 to 140CE) portray Jesus as famous far and wide, a prophet and healer, with great multitudes of people who knew about him, including the greatest Jewish high priests and the Roman authorities of the area, and not one person records his existence during his lifetime? If the poor, the rich, the rulers, the highest priests, and the scribes knew about Jesus, who would not have heard of him?
Amazingly, we have not one Jewish, Greek, or Roman writer, even those who lived in the Middle East, much less anywhere else on the earth, whoever mention him during his supposed life time. This appears quite extraordinary, and you will find few Christian apologists who dare mention this embarrassing fact.
All myth! Seek the truth!
Intros to these things are so lame! Just introduce the dude and let him talk
🤣🤣🤣. That's not very theological of you
It's important to recognize all those who made the event possible
You can use the transcript to skip to the commencement of the talk.
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Warys
Hahaha
Great encugutement
Is Tom right?
Holy shit!
Wright you are always right though i m left
Commences 8:34
...might skip ahead to 4:30 or 8:15...
What could "God's Second Face" be? ..."Yours"???
*God gave the earth to Man.*
God did not need to become a man so that he could rule over the earth, he has always been and will always be, sovereign over all of Creation.
*God is One and is eternal.* God cannot die.
*Jesus was a man, who, as is stated numerous times in Scripture, is the SON of God.* He will return to earth in order to rule over the earth as God's human representative.
The Jesus we never knew? What a farce. NT Wrong is quite a character. A clever wordsmith and sophist.
I do wheelies on my motoscoot and Jesus high fives me.
tom gave us a clue when he said schizophrenic
Your the one knew not about Jesus.the saviour..turn back with something and you will accept the truth. Your More poetic allegory..
"When the ONE FACE BECOMES TWO, what will U do"? The "Gnostics" weren't Crazy. They just "Knew God's Process".
Did any Christian ever "Ask God if He had any Sons"? Has anyone "ASKED"? Why wouldn't you "Ask"? What does KJV "John 1:12-13" mean? ...Is it the "Main Gospel of Jesus"???
Paul gives a carnal gospel without. Christ is the gospel within without bloodshed!!!
Should you clarify what you mean? I don’t catch your meaning… God bless…
Clarify please?
???!!!!
Maybe the real jesus was the friends we made along the way
This is a superb riposte to the modern, anti-Christian (often not anti-Islam!) 'woke' amateur 'theologian', who will accept Plutarch's evidence for the existence of Alexander the Great (for whom, there is scarcely any contemporaneous evidence!); but not the Epistles of Paul, with regard to the existence of Jesus of Nazareth; the genuine ones of which must have been written only a few years following his crucifixion and resurrection; and which 'enclose' even earlier credal hymns, such as that found in Philippians 2. There is a real 'fear' of Christianity within our secular 'woke' circles today; and I have no idea to what we might attribute this hostility. Could it be Christian 'fundamentalism'? Islamic is worse: and that gets a free pass! So, what is it about Christianity, which so irks the modern 'secular' mind-set, such that they will seek to persecute a Christian wearing a cross around the neck; but not a Moslem woman wearing the Hijab?
Well said brother :)
Liberals only dare criticize Jesus, but kiss the feet of Muhammad, a total serial killer.
@@alfredthepatientxcvi Than you, Alfred!
TLDR jk.. Amen i cant stand churchianity..for this reason
Outstanding observation and totally on point.
@@edmonddantes3640 Bless you Edmond. Having been outside of 'Churchianity' since the 1970s, I have had to struggle to retain my faith in the Father and our Lord, Jesus. This has involved a lot of reading, and prayer, whilst trying to carry out a 'day-job' as a Registered Nurse. Now retired, I can really get down to it.
Paul preached Christ according to the revelation of the mystery which was kept secret since the world began Romans 16 v 25
God himself, in the last analysis, must be the only source of knowledge with regard to his own being and relations. A H Strong
Jesus is only revealed to us by revelation, the Jesus of intellectual calculations is an imaginary Jesus. As John Owen once said - an imaginary Jesus will lead only to an imaginary salvation.
*John **6:44** No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.*
The world has been for a long time engaged in writing lives of Jesus... The library of such books has grown since then. But when we come to examine them, one startling fact confronts us: all of these books relate to a personage concerning whom there does not exist a single scrap of contemporary information -- not one! By accepted tradition he was born in the reign of Augustus, the great literary age of the nation of which he was a subject. In the Augustan age historians flourished; poets, orators, critics and travellers abounded. Yet not one mentions the name of Jesus Christ, much less any incident in his life. - Moncure D. Conway [1832 - 1907] (Modern Thought)
Jesus is all myth! Seek the truth!
" Yet not one mentions the name of Jesus Christ, much less any incident in his life."
ACTUALLY 13 DIFFERENT CONTEMPORARY HISTORIANS OF JESUS TIME COMMENTED ON THE EXISTENCE of CHRIST. WHEN YOU SEEK OUT INFORMATION BY WHICH YOU CAN SERVE YOUR OWN IMAGINATION and WISHES YOU LIVE ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN IMAGINATION and WISHES. YOU ARE THE VERY THING YOU ARE ACCUSING THESE OTHERS HERE OF BEING.
Pierre M
Yes, all are fools except Pierre; who claims to know ‘the truth’....
Yet No One of any modern credibility, or weight of renown and achievement, ever mentions ‘Pierre’-
Seems very clear that Pierre’s presumption of knowledge and clarity is surely a Myth-
If you preach like this no one would really come to know Jesus revealed in the scripture but secularized Jesus a different Jesus than what the apostles preached.
8:25
what about the other figures the other religions pursue in also a personal way?
What about them? Only Jesus Christ claimed to be the Son of God, and as C.S. Lewis observed made Him out to be a liar, a madman or the Son of God.
Jesus was a Messenger of God .,only God is worth to be Worshiped not a Messenger..
Respectfully, then you don't understand the concept of the trinity. Jesus is also Yahweh. Just like the Holy Spirit is also Yahweh. One essence, 3 persons.
Jesus as the Son does not imply biological relationship, it implies Son as a title.
The Qu'ran contradict historical facts as the Jesus crucifixion.
Muhammad was a warlord and polygamist unworthy to be a messenger to the people of the book.
@@TheSaiyanRace regardless of who Jesus was, no on is to be put before God.
@@joebaxley1503 Think about what you said.. "regardless" of who Jesus was...
Regardless means without regard or consideration of
"Regardless of who he was"
Jesus is God, which is why his sacrifice is sufficient. Only God has the power to be a satisfactory payment for Death.
Jesus said God the Father is greater, yet God the Father says that He judges no one, that right is given to the Son.
Jesus in his fully human form is lesser than God the Father, but in his Diety, he is equal. Which is why Jesus is the propitiation that satisfied all claims, because God is the only payment that would satisfy the debt of Sin.
So yes, it does matter who Jesus is, and in the context of "God".
I think you follow a monolithic religion.. Paganism doed believe in multitude of Gods...
What i find fascinating about what you are calling a "climax of postmodernity in the 18th century" was the explosion of denominations in America during that time. I Can see where you would think this is a bad thing. But it's definitely worth a serious debate. Slowly the concept of high church and low church as was in Britain, dissolved. I'm not implying who is right and who is wrong in their theology, I am simply celebrating that debate of such distinctions was finally acceptable. Its also weird that most Brits tend to think in terms of a collective and any focus on a sovereign individual is considered "selfish". I am mindful that most of the British collective exhalted a human as head of what was a state Church funded by taxpayers. What is selfish is trying to control others through politics, weaponizing scripture, etc. I think the concept of inherent individual rights by God and the sovereign individual is a product of God's creation and His gift of free will. That is hard to justify when you have the history a king or queen as a ruler or now, seen as "role model". I hardly see the point. The monarchy has been reinventing themselves for centuries so it cannot be tradition. Another amusing consideration is where your "English" state Church originated. Henry the 8th. A brutal bloody ruler.
N.T.Wright never knew the true Jesus who say : '' I AM'' who say: ''Me and the Father are one'' who say: ''If you see me you see the Father'' who say: '' I AM the light''' the Jesus of the bible is Yahweh manifested in flesh as the sacrificial Lamb for to saves is people.If you see Jesus you see the Father ! This is the biblical Jesus.Only ONE God the Father who came in bodily form.
So God became flesh and sacrificed himself to himself to convince himself to forgive us ? NO Jesus was a MAN and that is why he could die. God cannot be tempted.
Steve Carell?? Lol
Great Spirit's Nature is the real Jesus Christ. Christ is Spirit not a man.
Jesus :i am a man#church fathers no you are a god :“Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God.” John 8:39-40.
Jesus is a man :
“Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.” Luke 22:42.
Jesus is a man :
Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.
#Mark 10:17-31 records Jesus' interaction with a rich young ruler. The man said to Jesus, "Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?" (Mark 10:17). Jesus started His response with, "Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone" (Mark 10:18)
I he "reverend"..."most reverend" or even more special than a catholic priest?
Not quite because Catholic priests have full ordination. Anglicans have a diluted ordination and a compromised theology.
There's a lot of money in religion but not much truth
This is such an empty attempt
Does that include the religion of Climate Change?
Jesus and his jewish context is long abandoned, they put pauline christianity instead for better camouflaged the greek context....
See the Islam Q/A tab on my website, www.esmaali.com
25 minutes of nonsense. Go straight to the scripture
"WHY" did Jesus raise from the "Dead"? The Very Specific Answer will "Surprise You". It's "Very, Very Important". Why? Ask God about it. God does Answer Your Questions, ...right? What is the "Trinity"? Did "God Explain it yet"? Did U ever ASK?
This is crap. Leonard Cohen is not a NT scholar.
Of course you '' never knew '' jesus... not a credible word he ever even existed.
N. T. Wright , tell us about your talking snake, donkey,
Please do not clap in the mic.
Wright is so condescending toward what he describes as the western church, as if we have no clue who Jesus is. The Bible tells us exactly who Jesus is. We know Jesus through the scriptures. We can know that we know Him and we can know that we are not mistaken. Scripture makes this very clear. When someone gives an hour and a half lecture about Jesus without quoting scripture once, he is not a trust worthy teacher. Be able to discern the difference between a spirit led teacher carefully illuminating the scriptures to show you who Jesus is, and a man who is simply up his in own intellect telling you who he thinks Jesus is…
This is a lecture not a sermon. The 'western church', right along side the 'culture,' have been in spiritual and moral decline for at least the last 50 years and likely closer to 100 years. Where was the 'church' when the Supreme Court decided that prayer had no place in schools? Where was the 'church' when that same court decided that it was OK to murder your preborn baby? Where was the 'church' when it was decided than two men or women can be married? Jesus spoke to the culture of His day, as well as clarifying the teachings of the Law and the Prophets. They are not mutually exclusive. The 'western church' has spent more time navel gazing over the past century than influencing the 'culture' and building the Kingdom.
Here on YT, there is a video of Christians allowing a Muslim cleric to call the believers to prayer in the church founded by Martin Luther in Germany.
When a woman member verbally objected, SHE was escorted out of the Church.
Few Mainstream Western Christian churches stand for Truth, they are relativistic appeasers, those like that woman who call them out are called haters
Examples of true Christianity are in the Near, Middle and Far East and Africa, they suffer persecution and rejoice in it.
"The best cure for christianity is reading the bible"
, (Mark Twain)
"The bible has driven reason from the minds of millions,It has made credulity the greatest of virtues,and investigation the greatest of crimes,The instant we admit that a book is too sacred to be doubted or even reasoned about.we are mental serfs,"
How long will mankind worship a book?How long will it grovel in the dust before the ignorant legends of the barbaric past" , (Robert Ingersoll)
Most of what discredits christianity comes from within christianity,You don't have to go outside of religion to tear it apart." (Dan Barker)
The Bible writers >"Some of them,as it were in a drunken state producing self induced visions, remodel their gospel from its first written form,and reform it so that they may be able to refute the objections brought against it". ( Roman philosopher Celsus )
Let me ask you- How can The Creator of Space and Time be contained in His Creation, Space and Time? How finite dimensions be associated with an infinite Trancendent Being, in other words how can Jesus, who is a being that is defined by a body, flesh and blood be at the same time God, who by definition is an Eternal Being out of Time? Don't you think that a religion that claims to be an authentic correspondence of reality, should be both intellectually and spiritually satisfying?
@@abdullahimusa9761 akhi its a pagan religion without logic or common sense. there were Sixteen Crucified pagans Saviours before jesus .christianity is a copy and paste.
@@auzdeee Your inability to fathom anything beyond your nose is no reflection of the truth you cannot see. Seems like your replys are copy and paste, off the same old tiresome atheist crib sheet.
I note it's been a year and you've never answered......typical.