The Legend of Zelda's TRUE Origin Story: Twilight Realm Mystery SOLVED
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- The hidden full truth of Hyrule’s Creation and the purpose of the Twilight Realm’s existence are a few of many mysteries that have answers waiting to be found in the original Japanese version of Twilight Princess.
What exactly is the Twilight Realm? How does it differ from the Twilight that envelops Hyrule and why does the Twilight in the Twilight Realm, not force Link to transform into a wolf the way it does in Hyrule? In this video, we dive into the Japanese version of Twilight princess to reveal the answers to all of these mysteries, discover hidden secrets lost in localisation and uncover the truth of the Twilight Realm’s Connection to Hyrule.
As in the nature of language and localisation, many intricacies and cultural nuances can be lost during the translation process. This video is dedicated to reviving those lost elements through immersive explanations that would otherwise be difficult to achieve in the limited space of the dialogue text boxes in Twilight Princess. All translations have been completed by me.
With that said, another may decide on different translations for words or phrases. I’ve endeavoured to remain as faithful to the original Japanese text as possible while ensuring a balance of accuracy and clarity.
A massive thanks to:
- DarklordIIID from DeviantArt for providing me with a piece of art for the thumbnail.
- MIDZELINK for some of the textless cutscenes - This really did make the editing process so much smoother.
The link can be found here: tinyurl.com/45t9b5zj
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Japanese translators are really the MVPs for zelda theories
MVP's?
@@bryanlokao1 most valuable player. IDK its like, a sportsball term for someone who does very important thing.
@@bryanlokao1 its like saying they are the best
@@zukham46 Care to elaborate?
And the official translators are straightup villains
Damn it's frustrating how drastically altered the narrative is in the international release. A lot of the wording always felt strange to me and now I know why. A missed opportunity was in not fixing the transition woes in the HD rerelease.
I'm sadly not all that surprised there's differences in translations that are at times opposite to what the original text said.
Remember how in Botw Zelda said Dark Beast Ganon was the result of him giving up reincarnation? Whereas in the Japanese version it was his stubborn refusal to give up on revival.
It's really strange why differences like these still exist.
Funfact :
As a Zelda Fan from Germany, I noticed nowadays that the German Texts and Dialogues are more close to the Japanese than the English, I can give you Examples if you like
Well, reincarnation and revival are not the same thing.
Shadow Tribe...
Demon Tribe...
What more have we misunderstood from english zelda games? I feel like there's a whole different story for the Zelda series taking place in the Japanese translation.
Yea, these videos are slowly making me frustrated with our localizations. The language adopted and changes made more often then I dared imagine create a lack of clarity in the best cases, and straight up lead to misinterpretations of the subject matter at worst. The original texts description of the Sacred Land and Hyrule is incredibly specific here, so you'd think they'd be more careful to preserve such specificity otherwise we get what we have now, a fanbase confused or with incorrect views of the story and lore.
Yeah, they need to take inspiration from Aaron's video and re-release all the old games with the correct and more accurate translations. Which is what they should've been doing starting with SS HD. If only they could take some more time on SS HD to patch the game with the accurate translates. That'd be nice. Better yet, they really should've been using the correct translations from the very start! I feel like as though they did this purposefully as a sort of different perspectives kind of gimmick for their series. However, if that's the case, then, as we all know, that didn't really go exactly as they planned now did it?
@@PJCVita92 The localization team is obviously omitting certain phrases and language purposely, so they probably assume this is best for the western audience. This means the challenge now would be somehow convincing their localization team that being more faithful to the language of the source material is in the interest of the franchise, but after decades worth of games following this localization structure, can they even be convinced to pivot at this point? I'd like to be hopeful but I can't deny our chances are very small here.
I think you have it right when you say they should have started with SS HD - or hell, even the Wii game - as its timeline placement would have served as the perfect opportunity to properly introduce us to the concepts and specifics missing from other games. The longer this goes on though, the less likely this can be fixed, I think.
I think that there is just a different story period. I don't think its necessarily mistranslated, I think its that they modified the story for the American audiance. They might figure an American audience would be less impressed by a deeply religious people and a story of internal greed, and more interested in a story of invasion. Theres no law saying they need to maintain the lore exactly when they localize a game. The vast majority of people who play the game wont know that the story is slightly different several thousand miles away.
I am sure it's changed by purpose. The original Zelda story goes more by japanese culture and spirituality which we don't know much off and would think it sounds just weird.
Whoa; Hyrule's *being* the Sacred Realm reminds me of a line in the first episode of the 80s Zelda cartoon about magic being strongest in Hyrule
It really makes a lot of sense.
The triforce is a physical manifestation the goddesses left behind when they finished creating the whole WORLD. Like, the actual dirt, water, and life. A talisman as important as the triforce would be in a very secure and powerful place such as Hyrule
Hyrule is a large "land" in the world, with many different nations and peoples in its borders, but there are even farther flung places in the world that Hyrule doesn't have dominion over.
It makes sense that Hyrule would be sen like Rome or Alexandria or the United States, that is like a land of power and influence, and known as "the Golden Land," not unlike the "Shining City On a Hill" metaphor that is tossed around regarding the US.
It is also suggested Skull Kid from Majora's Mask "returned to the Heavens" after the Giants sent him away. Then Link meets him in the Lost Woods in Ocarina of Time. In Hyrule. Heavens
The only thing that doesn't make sensw with that version of the story is that, if Hyrule = the Sacred Realm, then what is the Dark World in ALTtP?
The quality of your theory videos with the Japanese translarions vs the Anglo localisations is night and day, genuinely gives incredible insight into the lore we wouldn't get in the west.
I’d love to see a game that takes place during the Interloper War.
I'm so happy I stumbled upon your channel. Your use of authentic translations has truly enriched my love of Zelda lore.
Do you have any plans on covering Majora's Mask? I'm particularly curious about getting your take on the story granny tells about the four giants and the imp. I've always found it confusing. I feel like this story would shed more light on the actual relationship between Hyrule and Termina since it refers to the "imp" being sent to the "heavens" which feels like a strange translation after watching your videos.
Regardless of what you do, keep up the great work!
Thank you so much! I'm currently going through some Majora's Mask stuff and I can't wait to make a video on it!
@@QuestWithAaron Awesome! Can't wait.
His video of Majora's Mask released months ago!
Every one of your videos is an absolute treat! It's fascinating how much depth is lost in the localization process, though I'm sure restrictions from the higher-ups and time crunch are major factors to some of the changes and omitions.
Thank you! I truly think that a decent chunk of it is due to the differences in language. There are just some words that you just can't translate with perfect accuracy without providing some kind of explanation.
With that said, there are definitely instances where that is not the case and instead they've simply made an active decision to change parts of the dialogue and story.
I want to know what the Japanese version of a link to the past has to say about the sacred land now
Since in that game the sacred land in its corrupted form appears as some sort of mirror/spirit world that can change depending on events that happen in Hyrule as well as the desires of someone that has made a triforce wish
I also wonder how the Japanese version of skyward sword describes the silent realm as I believe it has some kind of connection to the sacred land due to the way it is interacted with in sky keep
I have a strong feeling that the torii gates are in some way connected to this
Wolf Link is called as a Divine Beast by Midna on this game. Since she is a sheika, is very curious to see the relation between the BOTW divines beasts and TP version
The best way to explain how the Sacred Realm opperates, is by looking at the concept of the Otherworld in irish and welsh mythologies and tradition. It is a place that is always there but we cannot see it because we are not allowed to do so. Only if your eyes are allowed you'll be able to see all things that are hidden in plain sight.
This Japanese translation makes the interloper war sound the same as the hyrulean civil war. Like the beginning or end of it.
This video is excellent, really great job. The implications specifically of Hyrule itself being the Sacred Realm are particularly interesting, and make a lot of sense. While it’s still heavily implied in the translation, the more explicit reference to the war over the sacred realm being a civil conflict is very intriguing to see.
"I will assuredly finish the painting. Of a cold, dark, and very gentle place. One day, it will make someone a goodly home."
Your work is unbelievably important and valuable to the Zelda community you deserve far more attention for your services
Seems like we learn of the truth of the zelda series everytime you make a video!
Thank you for your service with these videos. The differences are so incredible that I wonder why no one at Nintendo has put their foot down and insisted on better translation, like already happened decades ago at Squaresoft and other companies.
Man, this really solidified my desire to learn Japanese.
Do it! More power to you! The Zelda series was one of my motivators for learning the language too!
@@QuestWithAaron how long did it take you to get to this point with the language?
@@spicysquire3521 I had 4 years of full-time studying which I believe is plenty if you're dedicated and enthusiastic enough!
Actually, it may have been that at the beginning of the world, everyone beside Demise Dwelt in the light, rendering the translation valid anyway. But, certainly, the japanese version is clearer and let us see the true intent of these words. (Also, for the usage of world of shadows in english, this is said only to be coherent with the rest of the translation that has been more vague from the get go, as to why it was vague, that's the killing question.) (Also, hiding like that the certainty that your world is way darker than you let on in the english release may have happened because of ESRB being more severe than the japanese equivalent.)
Another banger of a video Aaron!
Thanks for supporting this user! Luckily this would give this channel more exposure.
Thank you so much Don!
So glad I found this channel!! Loved the links diary videos can’t wait to see more interesting content :)
This channel makes me feel like I'm losing my mind, am I the only one who didn't think "interloper" meant "invader"????? I thought it had always been clear that the "interlopers" were part of the Kingdom of Hyrule, they just became interlopers by taking their magic and trying to take the Triforce, therefore making them unwanted
Your channel just popped up on my suggested feed! Took a look at your uploads and I gotta say, it was hard to pick the first view. All videos look great and this one was definitely a great starting spot!
This video was mind-blowing, and you totally deserve more than 4k subscribers! Thank you for this detailed video and your thorough analysis. I just subscribed, and I can't wait to check out more of your content.
My day is complete! I love coming across videos talking about my ALL TIME FAVORITE Zelda game. That is a very interesting breakdown.
This is the good kind of fan theories
This videos of yours are always really informative
Yes! New vid! So excited!
Now that I know the original Japanese context for this, I'm very curious what, if any, relation the Twilight Realm has with Lorule. Being as both of them are described as being mirrors with Hyrule.
Mostly none. The Shadow World is a complement to the Light World. It’s like 2 layers of the same world. Meaning that in theory Lorule should have a Shadow World as well.
@@AarturoSc I think this is Hyrule-multiverse, they are all same sides of one another. Twilight world is the shadow of Light world, as much as Lorule is the mirror of the light world as well.
Sounds like a horizontal vs vertical reflection thing to me. Unrelated, but having the same source.
Beautifully done!!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
So it would appear I'm making an au where English and Japanese Zelda are distorted reflections of eachother much like Hyrule and Lorule
Woah! Another great video!
Great job! All of your theories are so detailed and they really show how much work you put into them!
Have a great day! 👍
Nice video dude, first I'm seeing of your channel. Subbed
This was quite fascinating to watch and listen to. Well done. :3
Wow. Great video. This changes so much.
great job. with only 3000 subs this is very detailed and you put in alot of work
Amazing as always Aaron!! ^^ Could you maybe do a Wink Waker video next? I’m curious about the intro story where it’s explained what happened to Hyrule after OOT link did not return. Why didn’t the goddesses stop Ganon or Ganondorf instead of flooding the Sacred Land (= Hyrule even in Wink Waker’s timeline right?). Maybe the Japanese text has more insight into this story.
Thank you! I've been wanting to get into some more Wind Waker stuff, you can definitely expect content on it! I'll see if there's anything that could shed some light on the points you've made!
@@QuestWithAaron Great! looking forward ^^
I've more recently discovered your channel and am working my way through your past videos. They're all so good! It's amazing how many other theory videos I've seen that would either be invalidated, or cast in a new and more interesting light, based on your work.
After this one, I'm really interested in seeing one about A Link to the Past. In the English version, per Zelda wiki, "The resting place of the sacred triangle, the Sacred Realm, is a mirror that reflects what is in the heart...the heart of one who enters it.", and this "sacred realm" becomes the "dark realm" when Ganondorf enters it. In fact, according to the wiki, it was chronologically earlier in Ocarina of Time when Ganondorf enters the sacred realm and transforms it into the dark realm. The way that Hyrule transforms between the past and the future in Ocarina would align well with the idea of Hyrule being the Sacred Realm / Dark Realm; but A Link to the Past clearly shows that realm being different from Hyrule. I'd really love to know what, um, light a better translation could shed on this.
This was an amazing video!
I really enjoyed this! Thank you for your research!
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 this video is extremely pleasing to listen whether your watch or just listening to the commentary it's engaging and nicely paced enough you can actually fallow what he's saying the whole time
So basically Ganondorf was banished to the shadow realm.
Very cool video. TP and ALttP always had very similar setups. I'd like to see more translation breakdowns like this on the older games.
That intro is dope
I don't have much to say but I know every litttle bit helps with the algorithm so... God job!
Great video! I'm glad I found you 😊 I subbed
Great video! I do have a question though, in the English version right before the fight with Ganondorf he says this about the Twili: "Their anguish was my nourishment. Their hatred bled across the void and awakened me. I drank of it and grew strong again. Does this have any basis in the Japanese text or is this another translation failure?
The English version is much more... poetic? Here is the literal Japanese translation with no beautification:
"Your (referring to the Shadow Tribe) anguish was the nourishment for my flesh and blood. Hatred turned into power and awakened me."
It's suggested that the Shadow Tribe's hatred fueled Ganondorf's power, which ultimately awakened him. He doesn't mention anything about the Shadow Tribe's hatred bleeding across any void, or anything along the lines of "growing strong" again.
@@QuestWithAaron thanks for the clarification! I was just a bit confused because it seemed implied by Midna's comment about "pure hearts and gentle minds" that the Shadow Tribe had... accepted it? I guess I just found it odd that they had enough hatred to awaken Ganondorf but we're told that none of them would side with Zant. (In the english version at least.) Idk, maybe I just misunderstood something.
@@cassiegainer785 Judging from what we see in the game, I'm pretty confident that Ganondorf is referring specifically to Zant as the one who's hatred fueled his power.
Zant dislikes how the Shadow Tribe were banished and how he was denied as the next ruler. The Shadow Tribe didn't want Zant to become the ruler as they disagree with the notion of being blinded by greed for power as Midna explains. This is the key point here, I believe.
@@QuestWithAaron ah I think I see where I got confused, it never clicked that Ganondorf switches to talking about Zant specifically when he brings up the hatred part. My bad.
Well, thank you TH-cam, for suggesting this video, it was an absolute marvel to watch! I'm really impressed with how well the information was presented - it's a really well done video! I learned a lot from this, and it certainly got my brain cogs turning. It does make me wonder, tho, if the Shadow Realm is actually Lorule - just at a different point in time, or a different version of. They do seem to have much of the same ways of being described, as a sort of counter-part to Hyrule. Perhaps, considering that Lorule and the Shadow Realm is in two different timelines, they're simply two ways the same place developed as a result of things happening in Hyrule. I'm not much of a Zelda theorist, but if I had been, that would certainly make for an interesting video topic.
Thank you! I think it's certainly possible, however, I think it could also be that the Shadow Realm still exists in the downfall timeline, we just haven't seen it yet. Perhaps we'll learn more in the future, I bet there are many other worlds out there we've yet to see as well!
I'd be really interested in a video on the oocca!!
I highly recommend looking into GBA a link to the past translation differences from the SNES version. I've gone through them myself and have found game changing details that explain why Dark Horse Comics messed up the oracle games placement. Let me know if you'd like more details.
That does sound interesting! I have begun going through AlttP and am amazed at the significant amount of inconsistences with the two versions. It's very intriguing what you mentioned about how it affects the placement of Orcale games! I would love to hear more!
@@QuestWithAaron So what you want to do is look closely at the second encounter with Sahasrala. That's where you'll find the big secret of the two games. You'll also want to pay attention to anything about the Book of Mudora (what Aghina says about it, what it says in the manual, how it translates to ancient Hylia). Take note of Hyrule's residences and landmarks. Take note of the abilities Link can learn, and his potential ending for both games. Compare the manuals to each other including the regional differences. Even take notice of how the manuals differ from the games itself along with any artwork for source material. Once you put it all together, the evidence adds up. GBA takes part in a different point of Hyrule's history.
11:20 this kinda brings to mind what Rusl was telling Link at the beginning of the game, how at sunset you can kind of feel the people who dwell in the afterlife or something. (Writing this before having seen the full video)
Have you considered that the shadow tribe could be the inhabitants of hyrule that opposed the royal family during the great Civil War that happened ther not long before the 2 games prier to twilight princess, it wold be pretty reasonable to assume that they gave continuation in the themes and lose treads of the history, ocarina of time don't contradict that possibility since we have more information of the period during the war with the sheika involvement than the specifics of how the war ended and what could have been of any of the survivors that was at the rebel side, and put power-hungry people on a place that calm the shit down for them wold be pretty smart, and the 100+ years that they passed the would 100% be time enough to them to have a complete transition to simple hylians to twili
The Hyrulian civil war resulted in unification of hyrule under the King of Hyrule. Its been implied that Bongo Bongo may have been of the Shadow Tribe. But the sheikah are known as the shadow folk does that mean the sheikah were a schism group that sided with the goddesses against the rest of the shadow tribe or does shadow folk just refer to them always working in the shadows. We know shadow magic exists as the shadow medallion exists so it seems it was an important element meaning the shadow tribe maybe have been sister group to the sheikah who helped maintain the shadow temple. Before they tried a cou with thebfused shadows.
The war being more of a power conflict in Japanese tp does make me want to lean towards it being the same as the civil war
Duuude wth! I never knew that there were such glaring differences!
Your videos really deserve way more views! Other Zelda TH-camrs like Zeltik should really collaborate with you for more accurate theories!
Good assessment. I always thought that we are not seeing all that there is, in the Twilight Realm.
I'd really love to see a return of the realm in the future! The whole place is so fascinating imo
@@QuestWithAaron I am down for a prequel. Let us back in, without messing with the whole "sealed forever" bit. Although, with enough research, and even a triforce wish, I am sure that someone could find a way in.
Thank you so much for this video! The story of Twilight Princess had always felt a bit flat to me, and now I'm starting to think the translation of these key concepts is a pretty significant contributing reason. To me, many of these lines about light, darkness, and twilight felt inconsistent while I was playing... it got frustrating trying to make sense of what points the game was trying to make. And that made it harder to appreciate (or even be interested in) the bigger thematic structure of the story.
Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from! Intentionally or not, I think it can be quite easy to insert elements of your own interpretation into translations; I think this could be a reason for why so many words in the English translation seem to "clash" with each other. Like calling the shadow world (twilight realm) a place that's covered in darkness etc, where typically darkness is more so associated with Ganon/Ganondorf.
I don't think it's a fault of the localisers though, this stuff can be super difficult to find perfect translations for, especially when words are similar (or have multiple meanings). I've tried to keep my translations to what I believe to be the closest to the original text as possible and provide explanations of words that require them (something that NoA wouldn't have the luxury for).
With that said, I'm super happy you enjoyed the video and that it's cleared up some inconsistent story elements! Honestly, I felt the same way, before looking at the Japanese text!
Then what was the "sacred realm" in which ganondorf was sealed in oot? And in a link to the past, what was the place referred to as the "sacred realm" that Ganon changed into the dark world, that was clearly separate from Hyrule, but shared geographical similarities? Not arguing anything, just really want to know the truth
The place in OoT where the sages are located is the dimension of the Sacred Realm. Whereas the place that Lanaryu speaks of in Twilight Princess is specifically Hyrule, the Sacred Land. In fact, the dimension of the Sacred Realm is not mentioned at all in Lanaryu's speech in Japanese.
The Japanese word 聖地 (seichi) is used to describe both places, however, it can refer to multiple things as I mentioned in the video. I think this is where a lot of the confusion originates from.
We're also told that the entrance to the dimension of the Sacred Realm is located in the Temple of Time, which is located in the Sacred Land, Hyrule. The Triforce wasn't always kept in the dimension of the Sacred Realm as we see at the end of Skyward Sword. Instead, it's in plain sight atop the Goddess Statue in the land that became Hyrule. What precisely happened after though, would certainly be something exciting to speculate about!
I hope that clears up some of the differences between the English and Japanese releases!
Am I the only who hates the fact that the most popular Zelda theorists still believe that The Interlopers are from a different realm instead of it being the people of Hyrule themselves.
Thank God! Now we know who the shadow tribe described in most games are! Especially the possibility of the zonai
I LOVE these insights into the original material.
I just wish it didn't sound so much like a high school essay being read aloud....
Sorry! I'll work on improving my speech. Thanks for the feedback!
Awesome Video
So the game's actual title should be "The Legend of Zelda: Shadow Princess?"
So if I'm understanding this correctly, The Sacred Land is Hyrule but after the war described in Twilight Princess, The dimension of The Sacred Land was created as a parallel world to Hyrule.
That's pretty much what the Japanese text infers! Hyrule is referred to as the "Sacred Land Hyrule" in the Japanese text of Twilight Princess. The dimension of the sacred land which we know as "the sacred realm" came after. This dimension of the sacred land is not mentioned in Twilight Princess at all.
Where do you find such reliable Japanese translators?🤗
I do all of the translations myself!
@@QuestWithAaron You Legend.😑👌
So basically, the Sacred Realm is Zelda's equivalent of the Shadow Realm from Yu-Gi-Oh. It's amazing how we can be led to believe in something that never existed. My childhood is a lie!
Woah is Zelda actually an allegory of Jerusalem and the battle of the holy land?
Hi Aaron! I fell in love with your videos for some time. Congrats on the wonderful work!
I don't know if you have Discord or a server yourself, but I would love to keep in touch.
I'm currently focusing on an analysis/critique of the original Final Fantasy VII, but I do plan to have big Zelda videos in the future. One of the foundations for my channel is the importance of analyzing art in its purest form to obtain the most accurate vision of what the artists were striving for and understand the performance of writing and presentation a lot more faithfully. I intend to explore Zelda, but it'll be an even bigger task than fully retranslating FFVII (something that has been thankfully achieved now after a long time). So I see you as being a very important potential partner to have for the future.
Let me know in case of any interest or if you want to join my server! The invite link is in my channel description!
Thanks once again for your wonderful work!
Hey! I had a look at some of your videos, you've put an incredible amount of effort into them and they are very well constructed! You deserve more exposure! I'd be delighted to discuss anything Zelda related with you, I'll be in touch.
@@QuestWithAaron Thank you! Can't wait! :D
Okay, so, either you're reading way too much into things, or you're a genius.
Maybe a little bit of both? :D
@@QuestWithAaron Probably, lol
From this point on im getting this JPN edition of the games so it makes more sense 👍
Look at a picture of Midna, now look at a picture of Veran from OoS. Now tell me they aren't related somehow.
who the hell took it upon himself to literally change the story the devs carefully crafted when they falsely translated it?
This makes me have questions about the dark world.
Me too! I think there is much more to the Dark World than what we're lead to believe.
I'd like to know more about the translation of and use/meaning behind the word "tribe."
The word Aaron translates as "tribe", is "zoku" 族, the Japanese word for a tribe, clan, or family. For example, you would refer to the Anglo-Saxons as "Anglo-Saxon zoku" アングロ・サクソン
族. If we look further back to the original Chinese word "zoku" is derived from, we also find uses to categorizing groups by common features (which was carried over to Japanese by the word being synonomous to the Tribe level of taxonomical categorization), as well as referring to ethnic groups and nationalities.
Due note that I am considerably less adept with the Japanese language than Aaron is, and I may be mistaken in some of my claims. If Aaron can further/better explain this, I'm sure he will.
Has anyone realized that the Pokémon generation four games were in production while Twilight Princess was? Could the Twilight Realm be some form of inspiration for the Distortion World, the home of Giratina, in Pokémon Platinum?
i ALWAYS KNEW that the sacred realm is Hyrule.....why?? BECAAAAAAUSEE, in the italian translation..sacred realm is translated with '''terra sacra'' (sacred earth literally BUT) in this cases ''terra sacra'' MUST be correctly translated in, guess what?....SACRED LAND, so in the italian version of zelda, Hyrule was always acknowledge as the sacred land where the triforce dropped.
AH! not ONLY that, but in the part of the text that say '' but soon, word of the seacred realm spread through Hyrule, and a great battle ensued...'', the ITALIAN translation say '' but soon, the rumors about Hyrule, SACRED LAND, they were cause of discord'' even if the ''''rumors part'' is not properly said in the original japanes text, AT LEAST...they acknowledge that the sacred land is NOT a realm disconnetted from Hyrule, But it's Hyrule itself.
You show the curse in the twilight realm being broken 0:28 seconds into the video. Having said that it goes from being a curse to being more of an ability then as being link when needed and then the wolf when needed too means it is not a curse because you are in control then and you can decide to be a wolf or Link in the twilight realm.
1:12 zant confirmed as the true last dlc for smash!?!?!?
I wish I could leave more than one like on this video.
Though, in Ocarina of time, don’t you need to pull out the master sword to get to the Sacred Realm where the Triforce rests? If Hyrule is supposed to be this sacred land, then wouldn’t someone like Ganondorf be able to just get the Triforce from the temple of time if it’s in there? I’m not sure how all this makes sense… and for that matter, they did say that the evil power came from the temples of Hyrule and once they’re sealed, they stop the evil power from coming out of the evil realm.
Yes! So the key point here is that the "Sacred Land" that Lanaryu refers to in Twilight Princess is strictly Hyrule. Whereas the dimension of the Sacred Realm is of course something different entirely. We know that the Triforce was moved to the dimension of the Sacred Realm later on, with the entrance to it being somewhere within Hyrule, the Sacred Land. As you said, in OoT the Temple of Time connects these two sacred places.
There's no mention of the dimension of the Sacred Realm at all in TP. The Japanese word used to refer to the Sacred Realm and the one used to describe Hyrule as a sacred land is the same - This is what confused the translators initially, I believe. I hope this clears up a few things!
@@QuestWithAaron yeah, I suppose so. But was the Triforce moved to the sacred realm before or after the great unifying war that founded Hyrule? (And this seems a bit irrelevant, but I do kinda also wonder how and why the Triforce got separated in the child timeline to the twilight Princess era’s Link, Zelda and Ganondorf too. Like I said, irrelevant to this, but it’s something I wondered when I last played Twilight Princess.)
@@jacobshore5115 I think this video might help you with the Triforce separation in twilight princess!
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@@QuestWithAaron So is Ocarina of Time's Sacred Land implied to be a different plane of existence entirely by the Japanese text or just somewhere within the land of Hyrule? The thing that really confuses me is the mention of keys to the Sacred Land and the fact it is described as a mirror of ones heart. One way I suppose you could explain that is the place in Hyrule that the Triforce is, is the only part of Hyrule affected by a person's heart and that requires some kind of key to access. But that's only to say if it is in fact not an alternate dimension.
@@ThomasCapella Yeah that's right. From what I understand, by Ocarina of Time, the dimension of the Sacred Land (Realm) exists and that is where the Temple of Light is as well (as we seem in the game). When Hyrule was still a new creation of the goddesses the Sacred Land was considered to be that very Hyrule itself (as Lanaryu states in the JP version of TP). It is implied that the dimension of the Sacred Land was used later, when the Triforce was moved in order to protect it. I hope that makes sense!
But what if the Twilight world is actually the shadow that the light world cast over Hyrule, and the twili refer to Hyrule as the light world because from their point of view that's where the light comes from
The inhabitants and Realm of Twilight is far more Evil than Ganon.
Actually no, they are peaceful creatures which got corrupted by the Magic Zant used on them thanks to Ganondorf
whatehec, regular uploads?
Twilight needs to be a part of BOTW sequel
I'd love to see that!
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So I had an idea what if the enderman had the same issue in Minecraft.
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So if Hyrule IS the Sacred Realm, where does Link to the Pasts Light world take place? Because unless I am or the translation for the game is wrong, the Dark world is just a corrupted Sacred Realm.
Unfortunately, the distinction between Hyrule, the Sacred Land, and the dimension of the Sacred Realm is made even more confusing in AlttP. The whole thing could warrant a video or three to fully explain tbh.
Essentially, the dimension of the Sacred Realm and Hyrule, the Sacred Land are two different things.
In Twilight Princess, there is no mention of the dimension of Sacred Realm that we're familiar with. The Japanese text establishes that Hyrule was the Sacred Land from the moment it was created and that its people were religious. It's not until much later on that we hear about the dimension of the Sacred Realm, and that the entrance to it exists within Hyrule.
It's implied that the dimension was used to protect the Triforce as people became greedy. At the end of Skyward Sword, the Triforce is in plain sight. But, as people learned about what it was capable of, their desire to obtain it for themselves increased - hence the wars. But this is now edging towards the theory side of things xD
I hope that helps explain a few bits. I'll most likely do a video covering AlltP in the future!
i want to post a comment but it say to me ''returned error'' anybody can help me? There's no bad words in the comment ecxept some caps lock words, is that the reason why i can't post it?
How hard is it to just keep the same words in the game the English translation just changes the whole story
So... people that learned magic(being seen as different than "normal") want to rule the land(not take the triforce) are kicked out for their efforts.
At least that's what I got from it.
Yeap. The spirits of light(and the gods) are dicks. But I guess the gods were nice enough to give them their own land to rule.
The game has a lot of proof about who Ganon is. If you compare his transformations. You'd get a clear understanding(even looking at only English translation) of the type of hero Link is. A strong-willed warier(his wolf form) with a soft caring heart(rabbit form in dark world).
seems like nintendo of america should start looking for better translators. all of these translation mismastches are abysmal.
Why do I have a weird hunch that the difference between English and Japanese texts is a lingering effects of how in earlier days something has to be censored in the US. Like, because something needs to be censored to avoid religious subject, the narrative of Zelda games in English version is slightly different than that of the original Japanese and as the time went on, the subsequent games need to also be altered slightly to keep that same altered/censored narrative?
Or maybe I'm just overthinking and it's just a weird lost-in-translation thing of a localisation.
Honestly, English Zelda is the worst. Other translations seem to stay closer to the source material.
Why can’t they just do a correct translation instead of changing it
What's this? Kingdom Heart?
Friggin' Ganon. He needs a better hobby or stop taking steroids. He's a troubled troubled man. Maybe his Mom didn't love him because his Dad was an alcoholic.
I love this channel but at the same time it's frustrating at how much "Japanese text" dick riding there is not only that but the amount of time he reiterated the same sentence with different wording just to make the video longer. Yes, Japanese text is more specific, that's how the language works. The English translation isn't bad or a mistranslation it's legitimately just a summary of what was translated from Japanese. We got the same story.
Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it! I don't think the English translation is necessarily bad, but sometimes the nuance is a little different. I will take your criticism into account and try to make the content more concise. I don't want to only bash the English translation, that's not the purpose of my videos; but rather to provide another interpretation of the Japanese text.
Wait…Shadow Crystals…ZANT IS GASTER CONFIRMED?!