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- Monday 11th June 2001 features 3211/3212 9O38 15:23 Waterloo-Paris Nord and 3106/3105 13:56 Bruxelles Midi-Waterloo then Friday 25th August 1995 features 9O34 14:23 Waterloo-Paris Nord and finally a night view on Wedneday 23 November 1994.
The move to St Pancras was probably the right call - while the trains could travel at 300km/h, they were limited to 120-160km/h on the 750V DC lines to Waterloo
Indeed. It's also more convenient for travelling to other major cities as it's right next to King's cross and Euston and also kind of near Paddington, which serve more of the places the sort of people using the Eurostar might want to go to
An enormous amount of money for the upgrade, partly gone ahead with, I believe, due to President Mitterrand embarrassing the UK Government in saying that, once the Eurostar emerged from the tunnel, the passengers had time to enjoy the beautiful English countryside on the trip to London Waterloo IIRC.
HS1 should have had it's own London station instead of going into and out of a terminus (like the original Brussells set up) with onward trains to Scotland but that will never happen due to the cost.
Living in Basingstoke and therefore going into Waterloo for Eurostar services HS1 seemed a complete white elephant to me, I was quite content with up to 160 km/h for the comparitively short distance to the Tunnel and it was interesting to snake through South London on the posh train via places like Brixton (I bet there's some French people who agree).
Had they kept the route going into Waterloo on 3rd rail it would have been essential for reliability in the Winter to install standby Diesels in the Class 373s for when the 3rd rail ices over (but would have provided more embarrassment for us Brits).
@@Martindyna.... you totally missed the whole point about Eurostar - a high speed railway from end to end, competing with air traffic. It was never meant to share lines with domestic services! This wasn't why it was built.
A dedicated HS line in England should have been built and been ready from the start. But surprise surprise the Tories opposed such a line. There were plenty of 'headbanger' MP's around back in the day.
So embarrassingly for the first 13 years, Eurostars (in this side) had to crawl along lines with speed limits of 70mph , passing through tiny village stations. Of course it looked odd.
It was incredibly embarrassing looking back. No wonder Mitterrand made a pointed jibe at us. The French laughed at us, and how the country that invented the railways, couldn't manage to build a high speed line to make the journey between London and Paris seamless.
Poor planning on our part, and a generally 'anti rail' government (back in the early 90's), are why it took 13 years for a high speed line here to be completed. The Tories haven't changed one bit.
They're still anti rail - the HS2 debacle being an example. And they're now more right-wing than ever before.
Absolutely could not agree with you more although an impressive sight they were not designed for third rail working hence the slow speeds on existing tracks even the max 100 mph between Tonbridge and Ashford was seldom achieved just too much domestic traffic on this route to allow that speeds on the Maidstone were even lower esp when passing through Maidstone east itself with that horrible curve which is probably why it was also one of the best places to photograph it as the train was so slow mind you this route was only used primarily for diversions although a handful of Eurostars were booked to use this line during the morning and evening peaks as sevenoaks is congested at these times so much better to send via Maidstone even if it is about 10-20 minutes slower however this is all in the past sadly I used to love going to West malling and watching them and despite the low speed standing on the station they seemed to be really fast when hs1 opened I bet all Eurostars where relieved they did not have to be slowed down anymore.
I remember being so surprised as foreigner on eurostar speeds from waterloo, man that thing thunders on HS1 now
It only seemed like last week. Time does fly when you get older!
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Excellent stuff! My local, where the staff let me do the station announcements in platform office's as a kid in 80's, thanks to Jon, Steve and mostly Bill. Spent half my school-time here instead lol. . . Indeed doesn't time fly. . Then i had the honour of a loco-driver for a girlfriend much later in life. Then didnt (not recommended)! Even saw her off from these platforms, i could never of dreamed it in a trillion years. . .
Always liked your work, thanks for sharing, have subbed.
Pleased you're enjoying footage. I spend most of my time living in nostalgia as I am looking at old footage or photographs on an almost daily basis.
@@Felixjaz Yep i know the feeling sir, i'm stuck in 1987-94, but mainly summer 1990 lol. Getting my 80/90's pics scanned last year by my good friend has been great to share on FB groups, i shall now endeavour to get them and more, up on here. Indeed, as i was always obsessed with liveries too, i recorded them all and have researched the gaps with the aid of the internet, trying to compile a database for said data, massive job covering that era and them amount of loco's eh, doubt i'll have the time! . . Strange really, i should hate trains, but i dont! I still play with me model loco's she played with, and also have a multitude of unique stuff from her too :)
Wow! What memories
Wow these are very nostalgic moments when I was travelling on Eurostar from Waterloo in 2007 even there was no period of I was being on the rails in the video anyway. what a massive clip and thank you for sharing these hehe
Wow times i would of not even dreamt id ever get to go on this beauty of a train.
I love the eurostar man, means alot to me sentimentally
Pleased you like the footage. We have a preserved power car in the Railway Museum in York so I see it on a regular basis.
Absolutely awesome! :)
Thank you!
Wow br livery aswell can i see at the end of the vid? Network southeast days😔..
This is defo taking it back to life when nobody alive or dead could of ever imagined we would be living life like how we are now.
Talking of ES and how were living, I should be on one of these - or at least a refurbished one lol next month, but nope not happening 🤷🏽♂️
August 95, the Eurostar 373 hooting loudly, looking awesome going through Severn Oaks, 1995 the year of the "Pocahontas project" Disney Paris's 3rd year
At 1:23 and 1:25 did you see that electricity shoot out
0:02 that scared me
its so weird to see it using 3rd rail
We will honestly never see anything like this again. High Speed International trains which should be going 186mph crawling through Victorian lines into London on 3rd rail power. This shouldn’t have happened, but it did.
When EuroStar first started, France was decades ahead of the UK in terms of infrastructure, LGV Nord was built for High Speed. When you emerged out of the tunnel and into England, the railway,trains and stations would make you think you were in the 1960s or 70s.
I've done the whole High Speed One route, St Pancras to Paris Gare du Nord, racing through Ashford
It looked so weird that a 16 car train on tiny train travks
wow this is old
wait the eurostars could do 3rd rail the more you know i guess
Yh they were fitted with DC equipment until HS1 was completed up to St. Pancras in 2007.
The number of substations feeding the 3rd rail had to be reviewed to enable it to happen.
Missed the class 373 and Eurostar on third rail
so do i
The 373s are still around
Living in Basingstoke (so coming into Waterloo) the Eurostar at Waterloo was far more convenient for me.
I enjoyed going through the `back streets' of London on the Eurostar and then out to the countryside at 70 - 100 mph (as a tourist in no hurry) for the short trip to the tunnel.
Had they stayed with the Waterloo route it would have been advisable to install standby Diesels in the Class 373s for Winter reliability should the 3rd rail ice over. 1800 BHP per power car (200 X 18 vehicles) would have been adequate for up to 60 + mph (depending on the gradients on the route which I'm not aware of). Probably no room for them though!
Good old nse metcam networker
Fantastic video of historic importance.
We will honestly never see anything like this again. High Speed International trains which should be going 186mph crawling through Victorian lines into London on 3rd rail power. This shouldn’t have happened, but it did.
When EuroStar first started, France was decades ahead of the UK in terms of infrastructure, LGV Nord was built for High Speed. When you emerged out of the tunnel and into England, the railway,trains and stations would make you think you were in the 1960s or 70s.
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It's pretty dangerous that high speed train running on regular track and passing through a regular station
They are only going slow, no faster than any other type of train on the line.
On these stretches the Eurostar trains were limited to just 120-160km/h, 40-53.3% of their intended operating speed
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