For people wondering about the terminology used, the game is mixing the English versions of Chinese Classical Mahjong terminology, like "pung", "chow", "kong", and "fan", with Riichi Mahjong terms like "yaku" and "aotenjo".
WOAH, THE COOKED RICE…I gotta talk about that. This was likely inspired by a silly Chinese mahjong movie where a character cheats by sticking a grain of cooked rice over a tile to hide a pinzu. In the college Mahjong club we watched this scene on a projector and lost our minds laughing. Likely the dev has seen this too.
It bugged me I couldn’t remember the film name, so I went back and found the clip. It’s Mahjong Warrior th-cam.com/video/q-TEqTG_FPA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=bOI8S7fI1hKgSIKA
Rotational symmetry means that if you turned it 180 it would be the same. So circles 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 and 9, bamboos 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, and 9, and the white dragon.
@@Ginto_O @Ginto_O There's no such thing as "just symmetry". Symmetry is either rotational, where the object is identical when rotated a certain number of degrees, or mirror, where the object is identical when flipped along a certain axis. The effect specifies rotational. As mahjong tiles are oblong, the only valid rotational symmetry would be 180, where tiles are identical when rotated upside down. This difference is important for tiles such as circles 3; a diagonal line from top left to bottom right remains a diagonal line from top left to bottom right when rotated 180 degrees, However, when mirrored on either the vertical or horizontal axes, it becomes a diagonal line from top right to bottom left. Ergo the tile has 180 degree rotational symmetry, but not horizontal or vertical mirror symmetry.
@@Chocomint_Queen people call mirror symmetry just symmetry. no one says "oh look it seems mirror symmetrical" because people differ rotational symmetry from just symmetry
I dont know much about Chinese Mahjong but I wonder if the term "Chow" and "Pung" is related to the "Chi" and "Pon" we have in Riichi mahjong since they sound similar
Played this yesterday after a friend showed it to me. As a mahjong and balatro fan, I find the game really fun--I think it needs a few more tweaks especially with the UI and translation, but I'm very excited for the full release.
There's now an option to change all the names to use Japanese Yakus as well in the demo. Its easier to read "Pinfu Tanyao" than "All Sequences All Simples"
Awesome video, awesome game!! Also, one of the alternate decks that isn't availble yet has "Japanese" listed for the patterns; riichi based gamemode in a future version??
Gosh, this game seems pretty cool, thanks for giving it a whirl! :D Was fun to see you rack up some big points and realize how cool the gadgets can be~
I'll probably love it, but I wonder how many people there are that fall in the Venn diagram of mahjong players, Balatro players, and English speakers? Aotenjo seems like it's Japanese for Blue Sky, so I would guess it's supposed to be pronounced with Japanese pronunciation. Ow - ten - joh. Ay - oh - ten - ho is a pretty wild stab at the pronunciation. I can see why you would want to pronounce tenjo as tenhou though, since that's a mahjong term, but it would require this to be doing, like, Spanish pronunciation. Haha.
Aotenjo is also a mahjong term! It's a variant scoring system that extends the 2^han * fu scoring formula past the usual mangan cap, allowing for absurd exponential growth on large hands. Which is a good fit for a Balatro-like, channeling the spirit of big big numbers.
Played a bit myself, looked very interesting, and enjoyed how each play chains together. I was able to get to e10 and 3rd loop on my second run with wind and dragon tiles. It was pretty sweet.
As for the game's name, it's probably pronounced "ow-ten-jō" (like "ow, that hurt", and with the o lengthened at the end). It's Japanese and I would assume it's using these kanji, meaning skyrocketing (of prices), having no limit, or "the sky's the limit" → 青天井 You could also make it a play on words, and say 青点所 (pronounced similarly, but with just a short o sound at the end), and it would mean blue (or maybe green, depending on context) point/score place. 😄 I'm American, but I've been studying Japanese for almost four years now, so the game's name immediately caught my attention. I knew I had to leave a comment explaining it. 😊
As someone that loves balatro, and the closest mahjong contact i got was from the Microsoft one, lots of concepts on this video are kinda "alien" to me, but i am loving it
hands unlock as you play them for that run, which is why sometimes you dont want to skip. also there seems to be the other decks for different kinds of mahjong, like theres a japanese deck
As someone who speaks Japanese, the way you said the name kind of just makes me cry inside T_T Just a little bit of some fun facts, since I wanna nerd out real quick as it seems very Japanese inspired, and the name is very Japanese (the name meaning Blue Sky, I believe, but also can mean like the skyrocketing of prices; aka having no limit, with the sky being the limit). I don't mean to mansplain, so I'll leave this if you want, I won't feel bad if you don't use it but if you were wondering the pronunciation is "Ah (is in ahhh I see I see) oh (as in oh, I'm disappointed) ten (as in the number 10) joe (as in a kangaroo joey, or jo as in joke)" = "Ah oh ten joe" = Aotenjo (: 「青天井」
Aotenjou is a variant of riichi mahjong where score limits like mangan and haneman aren’t used. Because riichi mahjong score scales exponentially with han, this can lead to hands worth millions of points. It’s rarely seen outside of some mahjong video games because no one wants to whip out a calculator for every hand
@@Henhenz1 I'm aware of this. Yu Song said that at the beginning of the video and I noticed myself when I played the demo myself. I was just stating some things about the Japanese aspect that I picked up as a Japanese speaker (that of which being about the name since that in of itself is Japanese and not Chinese or anything)
yu_song you should also try ultimahjong! its more about constructing full hands immediately instead of melds and you don't have to play a pair every turn!
It was 2 Weeks into development of Aotenjo and Ultimahjong's steam page poped out... We both themed around Mahjong roguelike but have taken different paths
![When Mahjong Balatro Starts To Throw Hands [Aotenjo]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lMIhYIFFwmE/mqdefault.jpg)
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For people wondering about the terminology used, the game is mixing the English versions of Chinese Classical Mahjong terminology, like "pung", "chow", "kong", and "fan", with Riichi Mahjong terms like "yaku" and "aotenjo".
WOAH, THE COOKED RICE…I gotta talk about that.
This was likely inspired by a silly Chinese mahjong movie where a character cheats by sticking a grain of cooked rice over a tile to hide a pinzu.
In the college Mahjong club we watched this scene on a projector and lost our minds laughing. Likely the dev has seen this too.
Yes! That was the inspiration of the whole gadgets system!
It bugged me I couldn’t remember the film name, so I went back and found the clip.
It’s Mahjong Warrior
th-cam.com/video/q-TEqTG_FPA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=bOI8S7fI1hKgSIKA
I’m pretty sure either Kaiji has reference this or actually influenced that film I’m not sure
Rotational symmetry means that if you turned it 180 it would be the same. So circles 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 and 9, bamboos 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, and 9, and the white dragon.
Sorry, but you are wrong. 180° symmetry is just symmetry, not rotational
@@Ginto_O @Ginto_O There's no such thing as "just symmetry". Symmetry is either rotational, where the object is identical when rotated a certain number of degrees, or mirror, where the object is identical when flipped along a certain axis. The effect specifies rotational. As mahjong tiles are oblong, the only valid rotational symmetry would be 180, where tiles are identical when rotated upside down. This difference is important for tiles such as circles 3; a diagonal line from top left to bottom right remains a diagonal line from top left to bottom right when rotated 180 degrees, However, when mirrored on either the vertical or horizontal axes, it becomes a diagonal line from top right to bottom left. Ergo the tile has 180 degree rotational symmetry, but not horizontal or vertical mirror symmetry.
@@Chocomint_Queen no. just no.
@@Ginto_O Oh, I see, a troll.
@@Chocomint_Queen people call mirror symmetry just symmetry. no one says "oh look it seems mirror symmetrical" because people differ rotational symmetry from just symmetry
Really channeling the NL energy, both good and non-reading. Definitely liked the video!
I think there are little symbols next to your "play" and "skip" buttons that show how many hands you have left
i would love to watch you play more of this!
p.s. the 3 dots between the play and skip button is the number of plays you have
i had to double take when i saw the second upload today - lucky!! 🤸🏽♀️
Bro is entertaining as hell
I dont know much about Chinese Mahjong but I wonder if the term "Chow" and "Pung" is related to the "Chi" and "Pon" we have in Riichi mahjong since they sound similar
“Chow” is Chii in Chinese mahjong, “Pung” or “Pong” refers to “Pon”
HOOOOOLY MAHJONGLATRO IS REAL!
Id be super down to watch more of this
Agate is type of quartz if you are curious!
Pronounced "Ah gut"
1. I am so getting this game.
2. I'm also getting Mahjong Soul finally.
3. yu song what have you done im obsessed with mahjong now what the heck
Played this yesterday after a friend showed it to me. As a mahjong and balatro fan, I find the game really fun--I think it needs a few more tweaks especially with the UI and translation, but I'm very excited for the full release.
I dont understand but I like your energy! Keep it up!
There's now an option to change all the names to use Japanese Yakus as well in the demo. Its easier to read "Pinfu Tanyao" than "All Sequences All Simples"
I know nothing about mahjong but this game looks like a lot of fun so I'd definitely watch more of it lol
SO EXCITED to see you playing this!
thank you for showing me aotenjo you saucy little fellow
Awesome video, awesome game!!
Also, one of the alternate decks that isn't availble yet has "Japanese" listed for the patterns; riichi based gamemode in a future version??
Gosh, this game seems pretty cool, thanks for giving it a whirl! :D Was fun to see you rack up some big points and realize how cool the gadgets can be~
This was actually so fun to watch! Hope you continue!!
Wow quick thinking and yap god. Great streamer mentality!
Would definitely enjoy more of this game, I've been waiting for someone to make a mahjong roguelite for a while now it's quite exciting.
I'll probably love it, but I wonder how many people there are that fall in the Venn diagram of mahjong players, Balatro players, and English speakers?
Aotenjo seems like it's Japanese for Blue Sky, so I would guess it's supposed to be pronounced with Japanese pronunciation. Ow - ten - joh. Ay - oh - ten - ho is a pretty wild stab at the pronunciation. I can see why you would want to pronounce tenjo as tenhou though, since that's a mahjong term, but it would require this to be doing, like, Spanish pronunciation. Haha.
Aotenjo is also a mahjong term! It's a variant scoring system that extends the 2^han * fu scoring formula past the usual mangan cap, allowing for absurd exponential growth on large hands. Which is a good fit for a Balatro-like, channeling the spirit of big big numbers.
@@missingno_fgc Ooh, that makes so much sense!
So happy to see you checking this game out, I never wishlisted a game so fast
Played a bit myself, looked very interesting, and enjoyed how each play chains together.
I was able to get to e10 and 3rd loop on my second run with wind and dragon tiles. It was pretty sweet.
As for the game's name, it's probably pronounced "ow-ten-jō" (like "ow, that hurt", and with the o lengthened at the end). It's Japanese and I would assume it's using these kanji, meaning skyrocketing (of prices), having no limit, or "the sky's the limit" → 青天井
You could also make it a play on words, and say 青点所 (pronounced similarly, but with just a short o sound at the end), and it would mean blue (or maybe green, depending on context) point/score place. 😄
I'm American, but I've been studying Japanese for almost four years now, so the game's name immediately caught my attention. I knew I had to leave a comment explaining it. 😊
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2 uploads in 1 day? Absolutely amazing
game looks very fun, would love to see more. especially when it fully releases and is cleaned up a bit
As someone that loves balatro, and the closest mahjong contact i got was from the Microsoft one, lots of concepts on this video are kinda "alien" to me, but i am loving it
Still, so was balatro me, as i didn't understood poker at the time
That bamboo was getting juiced and squeezed.
hands unlock as you play them for that run, which is why sometimes you dont want to skip.
also there seems to be the other decks for different kinds of mahjong, like theres a japanese deck
Good energy, reminds me of chubbyemu back when he played games on his channel.
Also the turn counter was between the play and skip buttons. Can't remember if the tutorial explained it or not.
Also a game you like in rogue style, have you tried PokeRogue?
Hoping the metrics on this go crazy! Love to see more branching content.
I'm loving the demo so far, already got a run where I could just spam 13 orphans every round.
In terms of tiles looking similar I also kept getting 6 and 7 dot tiles mistaken for each other. They could probably do with differentiating a little.
Goated video 🙏
Finally I can feed my crippling mahjong addiction, the Kamurochou parlors were not enough anymore
I literally just thought of this idea yesterday for an upcoming game jam. Oh well someone beat me to it
As someone who speaks Japanese, the way you said the name kind of just makes me cry inside T_T
Just a little bit of some fun facts, since I wanna nerd out real quick as it seems very Japanese inspired, and the name is very Japanese (the name meaning Blue Sky, I believe, but also can mean like the skyrocketing of prices; aka having no limit, with the sky being the limit).
I don't mean to mansplain, so I'll leave this if you want, I won't feel bad if you don't use it but if you were wondering the pronunciation is "Ah (is in ahhh I see I see) oh (as in oh, I'm disappointed) ten (as in the number 10) joe (as in a kangaroo joey, or jo as in joke)"
= "Ah oh ten joe"
= Aotenjo (: 「青天井」
Aotenjou is a variant of riichi mahjong where score limits like mangan and haneman aren’t used. Because riichi mahjong score scales exponentially with han, this can lead to hands worth millions of points. It’s rarely seen outside of some mahjong video games because no one wants to whip out a calculator for every hand
@@Henhenz1 I'm aware of this. Yu Song said that at the beginning of the video and I noticed myself when I played the demo myself. I was just stating some things about the Japanese aspect that I picked up as a Japanese speaker (that of which being about the name since that in of itself is Japanese and not Chinese or anything)
been playing this demo for a few days and I'm excited for the full release
yu_song you should also try ultimahjong! its more about constructing full hands immediately instead of melds and you don't have to play a pair every turn!
as a yakuza fan, i have an intense fear of mahjong, so AAAAAAAAAA
Absolutely love your video. it's so hilarious haha
We need more of this!!
A triple Yu Song Monday, certainly wouldn't mind if this wasn't just a one off.
Triple?
@@msqunhua ah, he streams on Mondays too, so that got mixed up in my head
came for balatro, stayed for the mahjon
> Aaah, reading the tutorial explains the tutorial
Someone has studied in the Tolarian Community College.
woahhh, did this just steal the idea from Ultimahjong? or was this first?
It was 2 Weeks into development of Aotenjo and Ultimahjong's steam page poped out... We both themed around Mahjong roguelike but have taken different paths
If we've got Mahjong Balatro, we're prob gonna get Chess or Shogi Balatro
Would love to see more
very swag
was engaged the whole vid tbh
this is a great game keep playing it!
Wow its literally my two favourite things combined
Have you played ultimahjong? And are you on r/mahjong? And r/mahjongsoul
ultimahjong is on the docket! don't use reddit as much as discord these days ^^
Double upload!
Balatro spawning a new genre… Balatro-likes?
I didn’t play Baltro but man they got me I’ll buy this one
Clicked on the video because the NL reference
they made the game i wanted to make
thin deck daddy gaming forever
I am seeing it, and it is nuts
When did NL grow out hair?
Where was all this hype back when Ultimahjong - another Mahjong Rougelike - dropped its demo _months_ ago? 🤔🤔🤔
I died multiple times watching this video xd
LET’S GOOOOO
holy moly this is cool
Hi honey I'm here, thank you.
Praying someome mods it to remove pung and chow and replace them.
Mahjomg
Call that kan yu song!
This guys talks like a certain bald man that plays Balatro…
Another good mahjong rouge like is Ulitmahjong
liked the video but good god man take 2 seconds and think about literally anything
Fan and han are the same. Unlike riichi, fan doesn't have fu!
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major issue with this video. simple plan's first album was in 2002
Ao. Not Eyo.
seems like a cash grab copy of balatro... maybe its great but the graphic look so cheap compared to balatro
Please, whatever you do, don't tell Northernlion about this 🫨