The History of the NieR World Before the Start of Replicant - NieR Lore

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  • Okay, so in this Video I'm gonna go over the lore of what happens in between the prologue and full start of NieR Replicant (As well as the stuff that came before). We're gonna be covering a lot of ground here, so tune in if you're curious about what went down in this, y'know, thousand plus year time frame. I'm gonna be doing a few videos in this series where I go over the gaps in between NieR, NieR Automata, and etc. Some stuff you know happened before the start of NieR Replicant that isn't in this video? Chances are it'll be in the next video in the series, where I go into more detail about Project Gestalt (Drama CD content mostly fits in here). After that it'll probably be a video linking NieR Replicant and Automata. Hope you like it!
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  • @maxlvl912
    @maxlvl912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +743

    Yoko Taro: "I will create deep and fascinating lore and backstories that are essential to understanding the Nier story and world."
    Me: "Great I can't wait to experience them."
    Yoko Taro: "They will only be released in Japan, in obscure forms and I have no intent to translate any of them."
    Me: "Cool."
    Shout out to yourself and all the other translators and fans who compiled and localised all these essential pieces of lore, short stories and scripts that Taro has scribbled out over the years.
    It genuinely amazes me that with the newfound popularity of the series, all the cd dramas, short stories and lore segments haven't been compiled into a book and localised. Great content as always man.

    • @augustuslunasol10thapostle
      @augustuslunasol10thapostle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      I wouldn't be surprised if he hid some lore in a cave in ancient Japanese

    • @maxlvl912
      @maxlvl912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@augustuslunasol10thapostle said lore will also be essential for understanding Nier 3 which will be called Nier 4 just because.

    • @pickedceasar1216
      @pickedceasar1216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@maxlvl912 you unlock nier 3 for the opposite console after you beat nier 4, 5 times

    • @rinnnnnnnnnnrin
      @rinnnnnnnnnnrin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@pickedceasar1216 and said cave is guarded by people in straight jackets speaking a lost language

    • @erudreams1171
      @erudreams1171 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you link me some of these obscure, translated lore pieces?

  • @Wiggliest
    @Wiggliest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    Caim's lust for murder was so great that it tore open a portal to another world, but couldn't deflect a single missile. 😔

    • @AofCastle
      @AofCastle ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Have you played Drakengard?
      Projectiles make Caim's life even more miserable than it was, I'm not surprised that a missile killed him when 2 arrows knock him down the dragon

    • @FingerinUrDaughter
      @FingerinUrDaughter 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@AofCastle for real. he and his dragon move so damn slow that any form of ranged attack spells instant death.

  • @lebonk8081
    @lebonk8081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +713

    I love The fact that it's a spinoff of a joke ending

    • @lebonk8081
      @lebonk8081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@Kaixero i know it was originally a joke ending, but made canon.

    • @Kaixero
      @Kaixero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@lebonk8081 No, I mean to say, it was never really a joke ending.
      Unless you mean if it's not the "canon" ending, that means it's a joke ending...but that would would mean endings B-D of Drakengard are joke endings, and that's not really the case at all.

    • @lebonk8081
      @lebonk8081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Kaixero i just reread your comment. Now i understand. My bad, it's been kinda crazy day

    • @lebonk8081
      @lebonk8081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Kaixero i gotcha brosky. I misread it at first

    • @Dahaka461989
      @Dahaka461989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      In this series an E ending is considered as a True Ending because E is a letter of End word.

  • @greenxxxable
    @greenxxxable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Apparently it was implied someone sabotaged the Gestalt Project. I would like to see a game explain why someone would think that was a good idea.

    • @ThBrando
      @ThBrando  3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I've got a video about that exact topic cooking right now! The Saboteur gets exposed, don't you worry. Expect it in about a week or so!

    • @arcanealchemist3190
      @arcanealchemist3190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      isnt that kind of exactly what grimoire weiss does? im not super familiar with the lore so you could be talking about someone/something else and i could be totally off base but also, like he gets hit on the head real hard and then decides replicants have human rights, turning on his colleagues.

    • @ThBrando
      @ThBrando  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@arcanealchemist3190 Video is out RN, but the main saboteur isn't Weiss, IMO

    • @feliperisseto9113
      @feliperisseto9113 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm still thinking about who stole the dragon's corpse.

  • @TheIntratec9
    @TheIntratec9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    @BrandoSP If I'm not mistaken, I believe there are TWO types of maso - the white maso particles coming from the Watcher corpse, the Flower, and Her Inflorescence, and red maso, harnessed from the dragon Angelus. Since dragons are the antithesis of Watchers, I think it's safe to say that any Replicant or Gestalt that uses magic, can actually defeat Watcher entities by bombarding them with red maso particles.
    Had there been a peaceful solution to the game's story, any Watcher invasion could be soundly beat back by the local humans. Especially with heavy hitters such as Wendy, The Twins, The Shadowlord, and Louise.

  • @helldanart
    @helldanart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I finished replicant ending E, 4 days ago, now i'm playing Automata "blind"... i was reading everything i could on the wiki about gestalt project and this legion war, i'm in love with the story... this series is perfect, i won't miss any episode! Thanks for this! \o/

    • @birbdaddy
      @birbdaddy หลายเดือนก่อน

      What did you think of automata? 👀

  • @Jackson_dot_exe
    @Jackson_dot_exe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    As a major fan of Automata and now Replicant, I just want to say that this channel has been a treasure trove of quick lore dumps and I cannot wait for more content (even if it isn't Nier related). You seriously deserve more views. Keep up the good work!

  • @stevebravo1422
    @stevebravo1422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    This is actually the most straightforward understandable explanation of nier I've seen.
    Well done!

  • @yassinefarah2423
    @yassinefarah2423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    It's interesting how in Nier Reincarnation there's a character who's similar to the original Kaine who was a Human/Legion hybrid.

    • @christiansmith4410
      @christiansmith4410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That was Kiané's Gestalt fyi.

    • @bruhwereinacarexhaust
      @bruhwereinacarexhaust 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@christiansmith4410 which character is this? I'm one of those still waiting for global to drop

    • @mamme8381
      @mamme8381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was she the latest character that came last month?? The one who got tanned skin and white hair?

    • @yassinefarah2423
      @yassinefarah2423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@mamme8381 yeah, the one who uses a spear and scans the crystallized remains.

  • @Speckmantelmade
    @Speckmantelmade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I was not prepared for The Red and the Black hitting that hard in the "oh holy shit what" department when I first read some time ago. Man, little boy protagonists really have to suffer most in every Yokoverse game.

    • @EspressoStreams
      @EspressoStreams ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I made the mistake of buying the book and flipping through at work. Even though I'm the only one that could read it I still had a moment of UH WELL DAMN THIS ISNT SAFE TO READ HERE and I still kind of expected it after having read part of the Drakengard 3 book in-office in my lunch break. Long story short I no longer read DOD/Nier books at work.

  • @devaw5599
    @devaw5599 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    the backstory of Nier games have so much potential as a standalone game tbh. I wish we'd get a game that set place in between Drakengard & Nier Replicant timeline, and have brother Nier to be one of the main characters in the party members (which would give us a big reveal at the end of the game that he has a sister named Yonah, thus revealing his identity as brother Nier). Also, since brother Nier doesn't have a name, it would be shocking even more for the plot twist if they'll give him a name in this game, so we'll be like "oh my god, turns out *insert name here* is brother Nier this whole time?!??
    .
    Ughh the prequel for Nier games have so much potential and i'm so mad they're not even considering to make one in the future :(

  • @FatToDaCat
    @FatToDaCat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I know you're going to make more but I gotta say, please keep doing these NieR and Drakengard lore videos. I either just can't find any or its that there aren't any or many NieR Drakengard lore videos.
    The lore inside of these games and the times lines are so damn interesting. And your videos and narrations make it even more entertaining. Please keep making these lol

    • @ThBrando
      @ThBrando  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Will do my best

  • @TouchedProductions
    @TouchedProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    5:37 Shades need boats to cross water, at least the mermaid in Replicant made it seem that way. The remaining humans probably blew up the tunnels and bridges.

  • @PS4sos21
    @PS4sos21 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I can't get over how outstanding NeiR Replicant and NeiR Automata are. The story, the music, the voice overs are all so bloody amazing. The atmosphere is top notch. The story is really depressing and very sad. Seeing the world just slowly wind down. Life disappearing. I noticed at the beginning of Replicant where there were loads of animals, but when an adult, there are only a few left. I'd wish the ps2 games were all given remasters and sold on one disk. I have to come here to get the full story since I never played the ps2 games. I don't think they were even available in Ireland. Still, thanks for laying out the story.

  • @jinx1987
    @jinx1987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    The games are like Kingdom Hearts except it’s not mandotory to play the other games

    • @CloakofAuron
      @CloakofAuron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Also because Taro is a better writer than Nomura.
      BTW, this is coming from a longtime KH fan.

    • @rinnnnnnnnnnrin
      @rinnnnnnnnnnrin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@CloakofAuron as someone who used to adore the story of kh till 3 went more into the time travel crap, i agree

    • @dogsoldier123
      @dogsoldier123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CloakofAuron That's debatable honestly you can say he's riding from the seat of his pants too. Plus there's the fact that a lot of the context for things are lost on people who don't read the site materials

    • @CloakofAuron
      @CloakofAuron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dogsoldier123 I can see where you might find that Taro is going by the seat of his pants, but his talent in writing is fundamentally more sound than Nomura. There is a visible difference between them when it comes to crafting narratives and characters.
      That said, Nomura is playing more to typical shonen fantasy storytelling, and his familiarity with that allows him to do a decent job, barring issues in Dream Drop Distance and KH3 (and God, I am not going into the mess that is the mobile games).
      Taro, however, has a handle on the mechanics and technical details of creating a story, lore, characters, and plot/narrative. He plays fast and loose because that's his personality, but just because he's comfortable like that doesn't mean it undermines his craft.
      As far as the finer details being lost on people with Drakengard/NieR, the same can be said of KH. And ultimately, that's their issue for not investing the time.
      I can say, having invested time in both IPs, that Taro is far more competent as a storyteller. Nomura is an excellent art director and designer, and has an eye for action and flair that makes him suitable in a directorial position (he just needs supervision). Taro actually understands storytelling well enough that he can go crazy with it and make something compelling.

    • @dogsoldier123
      @dogsoldier123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CloakofAuron Well I'm mostly agree with you and saying that maybe Yoko Taro is up more competent storyteller. The main problem is if you want to know the overall lore especially for Western audiences it's going to be nier (lol I'm so funny) impossible to understand everything. One good example would have to be during side B in nier automata where 9s talks about a volcano erupting when it was actually Beepy and that he's the reason why the machines are so docile and started becoming interested in humanity.
      Although you are mostly right about nomura at least I figured his stories are easier to get ahold of do the fact that all you need to do is just follow the games. Yes I understand the phone game has a s*** ton of *very* important stuff but thankfully someone by the name of Everglow on TH-cam has compiled all the important bits and despite many people's grievances with DDD and KH3 I actually enjoy Kingdom hearts 3 story for bringing everything that started with KH1 to a close and I'm not sure if you are the same complaint with DDD as other people with the whole time travel thing a lot of people tend to forget that Kh2 started the whole time travel thing with Merlin and just opening a portal to the past in Minnie's world. Which funny enough is mentioned in Kingdom hearts III by replica Riku.

  • @kaiserinastraia8969
    @kaiserinastraia8969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    just echoing what others have said but I really enjoy this series and the way you compile the lore and explain it! Thank you so much, can't wait to see more

  • @andrewk7750
    @andrewk7750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I love the content my guy! This story (lore) is amazing and I wish I could find more videos etc on NieR. Thank you for the videos excited for what’s next. Honestly after ending E I could see a bride game between Replicant and Automata.

  • @elsanti4220
    @elsanti4220 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    bro, just letting you know, thank you very much for making this content to everyone here, aprecciated man you know how it's done take care.

  • @NinjaKuma
    @NinjaKuma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    8:00 - I like the cut of your jib, and the sense of your humor.
    Take my sub.

  • @ajfalcon7854
    @ajfalcon7854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for covering lore of the NieR/Drakengard games. Not very many people on TH-cam are dedicated specifically to this series. They may have 1 or 2 videos on this series, but they don't go as in depth with it as you do. Can't wait for you to cover more. Keep up the great work!

  • @dragonarch0
    @dragonarch0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Now we just need to get dragon balls and wish for drakengard 1 and 3's remake which will be sold in bundle with nier gestalt/replicant and automata.

  • @Dr.Farewell
    @Dr.Farewell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great lore video, as always. The second legion war sounds like it could be a very interesting game and Taro could really play up the fantasy tropes in that setting

  • @ZeroBagger
    @ZeroBagger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid Brando, looking forward to the next one

  • @josuearriaza3952
    @josuearriaza3952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If you read the weapon stories you find out caim fought for a week I think before he died

  • @JohnAdams-dt7sq
    @JohnAdams-dt7sq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Highly enjoying the nier content my dude!

  • @omegaweaponredux
    @omegaweaponredux 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    the WCS saga is the best lore in the series and it isnt even in the games directly, id love for it to be animated or something at some point.

  • @GrimmGB
    @GrimmGB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Lucozade? B-tier?
    You've just made an enemy for life.

  • @AofCastle
    @AofCastle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for the video

  • @Charlestouchdown
    @Charlestouchdown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I listened to this while working lmao. Good job.

  • @limegreen000
    @limegreen000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just to add a little something here, *technically* it was the National Weapons Laboratory that was responsible for emil and halua’s whole situation. The NWL was created in response to hamelin’s rancid vibes (this is from the nier wiki, not posting the link here bc its insanely long)

  • @vi8799
    @vi8799 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There are so many mysteries and uncertainties left here that collectively they all deserve at least one more separate game.

  • @lemurcrispin8576
    @lemurcrispin8576 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go deeper! I am loving these videos but I am sad the videos are so short haha :D Great work

    • @ThBrando
      @ThBrando  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got the pickaxe and I'm digging in them lore mines

    • @lemurcrispin8576
      @lemurcrispin8576 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThBrando Senpai

  • @freshjnew
    @freshjnew ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the fact that your videos work for my short attention spans for game lore of games I haven't actually played.

  • @maryschauer9147
    @maryschauer9147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the Draken/NieR videos. As someone who is playing NieR Automata and can only play that for now, these videos help me understand the series.

  • @G0dgrave
    @G0dgrave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this brother subscribed

  • @DonaldPindel
    @DonaldPindel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank your so much for clarifying the story for me.

    • @ThBrando
      @ThBrando  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @lucidlullaby894
    @lucidlullaby894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I gotta commend you about that part with Nier desperate for work, bringing up the tied back hair so smoothly without breaking pace or bringing too much attention to the matter.

  • @averagesoul8256
    @averagesoul8256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i absolutely love the lore to these games,the best series in existence

  • @boxxylegoplaymobil8906
    @boxxylegoplaymobil8906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    fuck yes bro i literally just found your channel recently and hoped you would do a vid abt this, thanks bro

  • @kaze8808
    @kaze8808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Also another good thing to note is that the original Kaine, nier, Emil and yohna all met at one point. And Emil and kaine fought off legion. Kaine grandmother tells her she has powers and was created. Kaine and Emil get captured and after nier gets chosen for the gestalt program. That period has some cool plot holes as Emil always says he feels connected to Kaine and nier through out nier replicant.

  • @JustDaZack
    @JustDaZack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The construct behind the Nier universe is so abstruse and fascinating.
    I don't get it but I love it! ❤️

  • @sugarzirka9080
    @sugarzirka9080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for this. Your content is legit amazing and I can't believe the quality compared to the channel size. Can't wait to see it grow :)

  • @martinsmith9371
    @martinsmith9371 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it you sir have a new subscriber

  • @VorAbaddon
    @VorAbaddon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video, as always!
    On the whole "Why did it take a military 30 years to defeat something that a Final Fantasy party took down", one :: Snerk :: Okay that was pretty funny, but seriously I think it has to do with the era itself. A few items:
    - A modern military trains for certain circumstances they might encounter, but the idea of people going essentially zombie mode or turning into salt probably threw morale off a good bit. You've got people hesitating to do certain things because they're worried the entire time about THEMSELVES randomly catching whatever the opposition has or going beserk. Is it in the air? Is the blood contagious? Ohhh god, did I just swallow some of the salt that blew off that human-shaped salt lick, am I going to go next? That's got to have a fairly negative effect on cohesion.
    - Population - Tokyo is a fairly densely populated city, so as the WCS spreads, even at a low % of the population you're probably talking about more bodies than a larger share of a less dense replicant population, since the latter would have been based on the surviving humans at the time of Gestalt.
    - Bureacray & Civilian/Military decision making - In the modern times, some of the decisions made reflect the resources available, as well as the bureaucratic mindset surrounding it. Such as building freaking wall around a densely populated city. That's an option the civilization-repressed/freshly awakened replicants just didn't have to even consider wasting time on. As such, every event that happens during the initial spread has to get government buy in or even allied buy in when the world governments start to work together. This involves a lot of political and other leaders who are worried about the impact, their legacy, and what legal repercussions could come about.
    The replicants of the latter years, after the fall of ciliation, had none of those concerns. They just wanted the sonuvabitch dead and... went and did it. They didn't think about if X country would bring them up on charges of War Crimes, or if they would lose an election when the extent of what they had done was finally revealed.
    You can see this happening at times in other games, with FFXIV (My current gaming drug of choice) as an example: There's plenty of times "Adventurers" are brought in to do something because if the governments did it, it would cause a huge stir or require a lot more time to get all the necessary votes. Or someone would try to use the situation to try and edge for power, even while they feigned cooperation (looking at you, Syndicate...). Whereas a non-governmentally aligned adventurer can just go in, wreck shit, collect loot, and call it a day.
    And the last, most important, reason, prior knowledge of the enemies - While the Replicants don't know world history, the androids DO. And they know that the last time Red Eye got taken out, the Legion became far less of a threat. While the modern-era military likely knew Red Eye was a big leader, they didn't know with certainty taking it out would be a game-ender for the Legion. So they had to develop their policy around the idea that there could be other leaders that will arise.
    The androids know from the end of the original war that Red Eye IS with certainty the hive mind, so from day one they had their target.
    Overall, I think all that is enough to potentially reduce the war down a few decades.

  • @TeissonH
    @TeissonH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Finally all this info in one place! I got all the pieces but wasn't up to the task of putting them together. Thank you very much for your work! 🙏

  • @jillsandwich4537
    @jillsandwich4537 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this!

    • @ThBrando
      @ThBrando  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked it!

  • @discogrowers
    @discogrowers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, the only thing that would make it better is footnotes at the bottom of the screen or something that would say where this or that specific information came from. From Grimoire Nier, or from in-game notes, and so on. Because sometimes I want to find this source and read it myself

    • @mekverseedits
      @mekverseedits 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Will this video spoil nier replicant? I'm just now getting more into the series. Kinda. I beat Automata and was in love

    • @discogrowers
      @discogrowers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mekverseedits I would advise you to play first and watch later. Moreover, you have already beat Automata so you know roughly the main points

  • @sirkiwi7076
    @sirkiwi7076 ปีที่แล้ว

    The timeline and your voice make me COOM

  • @asbehsam
    @asbehsam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    The story of Nier and why he ties his hair really breaks my heart :"(

    • @kagetsuki23
      @kagetsuki23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It is interesting. If Caim from Drakengard is based on Guts from Berserk, can we say that Nier is based on Griffith.

    • @asbehsam
      @asbehsam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ​@@kagetsuki23 Hmmm I don't know I don't think Nier's character resembles Griffith, maybe just the appearance? Because Nier's character's need and want are very different from Griffith and they could be the opposites. Nier is kindhearted and positive even in the face of everything that's going on because it's his coping mechanism, and I think it's shown as a big part of his character that he doesn't care about himself, not even one bit.
      His whole life has been about Yuna (both Gestalt Nier and Replicant Nier) to the point that he considers only her and not himself at all. When he's calling for help in the beginning he literally says "Someone help Yuna!" and not "us" (as you know this is something the English translation messed up) and when he wants to go to the seaside merchant to sell his body he again thinks of Yuna and repeats this is for Yuna (this was really shocking, tbh, my heart broke for him). Even in Ending D he doesn't care about himself at all. I think it's even emphasized by showing kids his age playing and running around while he just has to go kill for Yuna. Nier is all about others. First Yuna, then Kaine, etc. He would break the world for them and not for himself (which might be why we're willing to forgive him). This hugely contradicts Griffith who does everything for himself and his own ambitions and wants everyone on board for his own goals and he uses and kills and does the most terrible things to his own friends for it.
      On the other hand, I think a lot of what Yoko Taro said about his characters and happy endings. He said Caim doesn't deserve happiness because he kills mercilessly for revenge and for himself, and he doesn't deserve a happy ending. But Nier, and even 2B and 9S are difference because they have suffered a lot (especially Nier who literally lives a hellish life just for his sister) are different and have paid for their mistakes so he allowed them a tiny portion of happiness. I really don't think someone like Griffith would fit in here (I do feel bad for him but I cannot forgive him).
      Sorry for the long msg. I'm a writing mentor and I find these stories so interesting. ':)

    • @leakypeach6250
      @leakypeach6250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@asbehsam I'm actually glad that you bothered to post this. Too often, people like to create false equivalencies between characters for the sake of simplicity. I recently encountered this exact thing where someone compared an anime called Vivy to NieR. Needless to say, I posted a similarly lengthy reply explaining why this wasn't necessarily the case.

  • @azk9218
    @azk9218 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think it is worth noting that originally, DoD2 final ending was supposed to lead into NieR's world by no longer needing seals and Midgard reverting back to Europe as before the Cataclysm - it was shown this way in one of the world companion books (DoD World Inside I think?), but later on they changed that so DoD2 is now completely separate branch from any other.
    We also know that Tyrann, human that lived in Kaine as Shade, is in fact a descendant of Nero, who was an elf in Drakengard's branch. So it is still possible that main timeline of Drakengard is actually the past world of Nier, not a separate timeline entirely. Tho the other possibilty is that it is just a different timeline branch. And I see people usually have misconception of what Midgard is. It is NOT a different world or universe. It is Europe that was turned upside down thanks to Cataclysm, in which everything occured as in real world before the events in Iberian Penninsula.
    We also know that Accord is tied to Cathedral City, and she came from 6000s from the dark side of Earth. Which leads to conclusion that most likely there is a bootstrap paradox, in which Cataclysm occured because Cathedral City was transported along with Accord, dragons and magic from the future, and because of this it was brought into Shinjuku in the first place, creating a loop of events that occur because of each other with no point of origin.

  • @Venoix
    @Venoix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a great video and provides a lot of great information that the regular player may not know about, thanks for making it.
    One thing though, is that you mention that there are multiple bridges and roads connecting Honshu and Kyushu. I live in Kyushu near to the only bridge connecting Kyushu to the mainland, so I wanted to point out that this fact is incorrect. In the aerial photo you show of the area you can see one large bridge called the Kanmon Bridge which connects Fukuoka (Kyushu) to Yamaguchi (Honshu) and is the only over land bridge to do so. The only other way to cross, besides going over the water on a boat, or flying, is a car tunnel beneath the bridge (also beneath the ocean), and a pedestrian tunnel even further beneath that.

    • @ThBrando
      @ThBrando  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good to know. Do the JR and Shinkansen lines use underground tunnels as well?

    • @Venoix
      @Venoix 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThBrando Yes, that's right.

  • @kagetsuki23
    @kagetsuki23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Do you think the Drakengard world still exist? I know its full of giant babies from the evil goddess that end up on Tokyo, but the world may still exist. So, a game on this world may be possible if the world and its inhabitants are still around.

    • @omegaweaponredux
      @omegaweaponredux 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I mean in some timelines it does. I wish we could explore Timeline D more in depth. post time freezing the queen beast.

    • @victuz
      @victuz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, the timeline is Drakengard 3 > Drakengard 1 > Drakengard 2.

  • @thewitchertales
    @thewitchertales 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Id say its more like every shade is part of the way relapsed.. its when they fully relapse that the replicant dies from the scrawl and the gestalt loses all sanity. Some gestalts are more resistant to relapse. Shadowlord is also relapsed but his drive to save his sister keeps him from doing so. Yonah started to relapse as soon as she touched the book. The reason why all shades are in some stsge of relapse is the replicants sentience and the shadowlord losing his conviction for his sister actually being saved.
    So essentially as the relapse developes so does the violent tentendancies and total loss of sanity.
    Project gestalt would remove the replicants sentience.. thus reversing partial relapse for most. Full relapsed shades habe no replicant to go into.
    And partially relapsed gestalts can join their own body threw posession but they will always coexist inside the replicant shell with the replicant.

  • @joshuaradloff1070
    @joshuaradloff1070 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:30 though🤣😆😂 now that quite literally hit close to home!😂

  • @joepwrsurge
    @joepwrsurge ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. I subscribed.

  • @sekkuar
    @sekkuar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    A comment on the shades not attacking in the clip around 14:30
    You can see it more clearly at the moment the main character acquires Grimoire Weiss, but the shades (at least the small ones) didn't attack the main character until he acquired the book, at which moment they turn instantly aggro and remain aggro for the rest of the game.

  • @bryce7344
    @bryce7344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It would be cool if you had the source for what youre saying in the corner of the video while youre saying it.

  • @implicitmintjulep
    @implicitmintjulep 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Entertaining and helpful video, just wanted to query one thing. Wasn't it the National Weapons laboratory created by Japan in response to the international Hamelin organization that created Experiments no. 6 and 7? Thanks again for the video

  • @sithlordbeerus503
    @sithlordbeerus503 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got into the nier games got them both for 20 so glad I found these videos Lol

  • @strawhatdac
    @strawhatdac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great video as always.
    also, little warning for anyone who wants to read the red and the black, it is very dark. so uh, be prepared for that

  • @CrowsTales
    @CrowsTales 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope the next game goes over the stuff before Nier & Nier Replicant- it sounds crazy and disturbing at how they’d do it but i think it’d be cool/crazy

  • @LeviathanJoho
    @LeviathanJoho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It would be really cool if some of these events (such as the Legion crusades or the Red eye wars) were adapted into a game of some kind

    • @ThBrando
      @ThBrando  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Or like a short animated series or something

    • @robin4558
      @robin4558 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nier anime is coming

  • @DKZK21
    @DKZK21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive always thought you could create an awesome novella/anime/something around the 13th Crusade that managed to slay Redeye. If I remember well, members from this crusade went on to take part in the trial that gave birth to the Grimoires too, so there's a lot to work with there.

  • @Redline_Kouki
    @Redline_Kouki 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The doom drop killed me 😂😂😂

  • @Duddypup34
    @Duddypup34 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That felt kinda dirty so glad I found your page

  • @thewitchertales
    @thewitchertales 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro good job ive been a fan of the yoko taro universe sense og nier gestalt. I had to find all thos info and read it or compare translations and argue with people on forum posts due to misinformation took a few playthroughs and alot of reading to understand this universe... i wish i had a video explaining it accurately andnwith visuals like this... this is very helpful. There was other channels that did this but left alot out or there presentation was terrible... looking at you mr cremps... anyways thanks man. Good shit.

  • @drearydoll6305
    @drearydoll6305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So if a replicant and a shade successfully reunite, it creates a human being?
    I was always confused about the replicant being the shades' real bodies because well, they re supposed to be machines, right?
    Or did I miss something?

    • @RPGNoZero
      @RPGNoZero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Replicants are biological clones made using technology and magic

    • @yassinefarah2423
      @yassinefarah2423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Basically the Project separated the body from the soul since both are human, the Replicants were suppose to be the Vessels for the Gestalts, for them to be human the process required Grimoire Weiss and Noir.

  • @JustSomeGuy63
    @JustSomeGuy63 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Emil: RIP AND TEAR!

  • @jaredsergent857
    @jaredsergent857 ปีที่แล้ว

    Playing as those replicants that defeated legion would be a cool game to play

  • @mikemcmullen5006
    @mikemcmullen5006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nier is a good game, but automata has a very similar twist that you get throughout the B path. Automata is a masterpiece, so it's alot better in that game

  • @heavymetalmixer91
    @heavymetalmixer91 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is this video the second one in the playlist if you recommend to watch it before all the others?

  • @mangafangirl
    @mangafangirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sooo who were the four replicants who defeated second Red Eye? Or where can I find this referenced?

  • @Mars_over_seer
    @Mars_over_seer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:20 Halo did this. Twice actually with the Spartan lls and llls. The first involved kidnapping kids with genetic make-up and the second time taking in war orphans to fight for them.

  • @lBorosDavidl
    @lBorosDavidl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This man is the Vaati of DrakeNier

  • @gboxb3215
    @gboxb3215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This could be its own game on its own.

  • @bluegrave4376
    @bluegrave4376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What I wanna know is why replicants seemingly can't die or reproduce. How would the gestalts return to their bodies this many years later if they don't have a way to preserve the replicants. And they have children running around so where are they coming from? Do they just not question it?

    • @Floaty8008
      @Floaty8008 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know this is late but if the replicants die they just replace them.

  • @himasekiwari155
    @himasekiwari155 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you make a similar video of this but woth Neir Reimcarnation videos please, cause that game released so much lore and info regarding the world of neir

  • @JackieOwl94
    @JackieOwl94 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine if the initial tragedy that led to WCS happened in the USA, with its security culture. I have a feeling things would have ramped up in response very quickly, even though the lay populous would probably be telling themselves the disease doesn’t exist while their neighbors died. And likely the extensive international travel would have spread the disease globally a lot quicker.

  • @ericksonedcdias4885
    @ericksonedcdias4885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    see a brazilian meme at 6:43 was really unexpected hahahahahahah

  • @ghostle2126
    @ghostle2126 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the location at 12:28 ?? I have never seen this before, just finished Nier Replicant ending A. Am I about to visit this location in a future branch, is this a mod or something else?

    • @moxybunny
      @moxybunny ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the dlc that u can access in NieRs mom diary in route b

  • @kaos-qc5ho
    @kaos-qc5ho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can someone explain how the red and the black makes sense if the first time nier goes to seafront is in the game but we was already tying his hair up by the start of the game

  • @mononophoenix2752
    @mononophoenix2752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Banger video however do not read the red and the black, it's been haunting me for over a month now and you will never get over it

    • @super-engineer8437
      @super-engineer8437 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What the hell is it about?? Could you please just explain and be brief??

    • @elilass8410
      @elilass8410 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@super-engineer8437 TW rape, child abuse
      Before arriving in Popola and Devola's village, Nier was desperate for money to take care of yonah and an adult man in seafront offered him money in exchange for sex. He took the offer and was immensely traumatized by it, especially as the man kept playing with his hair every time he assaulted Nier. Because of that trauma, Nier cant stand the feeling of his hair touching his shoulders and ties it up. He later killed the man during a mission.

  • @NykylaiHellray
    @NykylaiHellray 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am still wondering how Thou Shalt Not Die ties into this.

    • @reesehulbert1330
      @reesehulbert1330 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It doesn't

    • @themadhatter9081
      @themadhatter9081 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reesehulbert1330 It likely does connect but it wasan't confirmed 100%

  • @Chreed96
    @Chreed96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10/10

  • @Kaixero
    @Kaixero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Can't believe you actually recommended people read the red and the black, you're nuts

    • @F66x
      @F66x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Could've put a warning. >>

    • @yorha19F
      @yorha19F 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Something that bothers me in this novel is that Yona gets the Black Scrawl in it but the story was supposed to be set before the game events, and Yonah only is affected by the illness in the game, so is kinda incoherent

    • @mekverseedits
      @mekverseedits 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait why do you say that?

    • @mb2001
      @mb2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yorha19F I figured that the "illness/coughing" was just the early stages of Black Scrawl.

    • @thexenocide6013
      @thexenocide6013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mekverseedits well maybe you've read it by now but if you haven't suffice to say that the story is a bit, well, fucked to the nines

  • @brandonrodulfo6643
    @brandonrodulfo6643 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Big up Trinidad with the lucozades

  • @flutturshyshy2840
    @flutturshyshy2840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This answered a bunch of questions is had but not all so i hope you can shine a light on me here in the comments.
    So like you said the black scrawl is caused by the Replicant rejecting the Gestald (soul), but if it is like that how did yonah get it in the beginning? was she already a replicant at that time and if she was, how did they remove the black scrawl, since we are told it incurable and can only be slowed.
    And if Nier agreed to become the shadow lord to stableize all gestalts and in return his sister would be treated, would that mean that Yonah and Nier were "true" humans in the beginning
    Also i dont know if its answered in the game or not, i couldnt find the answer but what was the purpouse for the grimores? Were they meant to be a type of catalyst for when the gestalts and the replicants were going to be reunited or were they made for a different purpose?

    • @ThBrando
      @ThBrando  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So the Grimoires were handed out to people at random. Everyone who touched the grimoire who didn't have the potential to become the "Shadowlord" would immediately black scrawl and have their Gestalt go berserk. Nier has the potential so he got the books power, and he fights the ones that were rejected. He tells Yonah not to touch the book but she accidentally does and immediately begins to turn. They put her Gestalt on ice to slow the process in exchange for Nier playing ball, but eventually it stops being effective causing her replicant to begin to scrawl again, which kicks off the Shadowlord taking matters into his own hands.

    • @flutturshyshy2840
      @flutturshyshy2840 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThBrando So then in the begining of Nier they have already gone through the gestalt project and are no longer human? and also i dont know if you will put it in aother video or not but do you know what is in the bunker on the moon? We know its human DNA or genome of some kind but do we know what it is? like a chopped leg a drop of blood or something like that?
      Also thanks for clearing up the issue with the grimoires for me

  • @l4in586
    @l4in586 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know where the artwork of the E ending of drakengard that flashes up around 3:02 is from?

    • @ThBrando
      @ThBrando  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      NieR Reincarnation official Twitter account

  • @hertogvandamme
    @hertogvandamme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Am I right in assuming the Lost Shrine is the area where Yonah used Grimoire Weiss?

    • @mbii7667
      @mbii7667 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's Grimoire Noir (a copy) that she touched

    • @hertogvandamme
      @hertogvandamme 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mbii7667 But am I right about why the locatiob is there?

    • @mbii7667
      @mbii7667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hertogvandamme I don't think so tbh, the Lost Shrine is much bigger than the store in the prologue where Nier and Yonah are hiding out

    • @hertogvandamme
      @hertogvandamme 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mbii7667 they were in an Urban area with skyscrapera and the Lost Shrine is surrounded by skyscrapers, so I assumed.

  • @greenjoe4202
    @greenjoe4202 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:31 damn, i just completed both latest dooms.

    • @ThBrando
      @ThBrando  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good video games tbh

  • @devilangel4980
    @devilangel4980 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who are the 1 androind and 4 replicant heroes who defeated the resurrected red-eye?

  • @Dante431
    @Dante431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm wondering if reincarnation will explain what happened with Angelus body

    • @Dante431
      @Dante431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @tom gu I've only played early access to reincarnation, never read anything about it being 11k years after Replicant. Pretty sure Automata is, thanks tho

    • @rayegincho
      @rayegincho 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always assumed caim was still alive somehow and he just burned themselves away like in drakengard 2

    • @philthethotdestroyer4194
      @philthethotdestroyer4194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      angelus body was removed from tokyo tower and used to discover magic

  • @venrajful
    @venrajful 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wait she desolves into matter said to be without mass or weight. I don't know who said this but if it was it should be floathing up and not falling down so it needs to have mass and thus also weight.

  • @adrianlouis2108
    @adrianlouis2108 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still dont understand.Who is the Gulstalt the humans or the shade?
    If its humans.
    What happens after they relapse.
    If its shade.
    DO they even relapse?

    • @dantecrailman8861
      @dantecrailman8861 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Gestalts are humans themselves. They've been called "Shades" by the Replicants. If a Gestalt died, its corresponding Replicant will "relapse" which will also kill the Replicant in the process.

  • @ImNotFlawless
    @ImNotFlawless 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    CHAOS!!!!

  • @tylercrain2831
    @tylercrain2831 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It saddens me how everyone always goes straight to replicent because i started my entire adventure with the release of gestalt the original so to me all of this is getsalt lore

  • @joshuataylor7443
    @joshuataylor7443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you talk about the sinoalice lore?

    • @pixelcount350
      @pixelcount350 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neir's afterlife. That's even darker than Drakengard due to its implications.

  • @andreakehrer8219
    @andreakehrer8219 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I haven't played replicant cause I thought the only difference was the main dude being her brother instead of her dad, does this mean I gotta go get it?

  • @redderfalco7019
    @redderfalco7019 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where's the image from 3:01 from?

    • @ThBrando
      @ThBrando  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      NieR Reincarnation's Japanese Twitter account

  • @kevinmay9151
    @kevinmay9151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ngl I'm not gonna watch this video cause I do want to play/experience drakengard, but I have a question: spoilers for nier
    did the twins understand the protagonist would doom humanity? cause I of course looked up stuff online after I had some unclear conceptions and I can't tell if it was made clear that the twins understand what would be happening, and I don't have the biggest grasp on whether or not it was truly a misunderstanding or an act of selfishness(good story either way)

    • @ThBrando
      @ThBrando  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      D&P are likely the only characters with the full picture, so yeah, they knew exactly what was at stake