Hah, what a poser. I'm in doctor residency right now and I was studying neir the whole time in med school. Btw does anyone know the right way to remove a kidney?
Per the NieR: Orchestra Concert re:12018, we know that 2B killed 47 times before Nier Automata (48 if we include Ending A). Given that 9S was first activated about 3.5 years (196 weeks) before the events of Nier Automata, we can estimate that 2B killed 9S about once a month on average.
For someone who has struggled immensely with understanding the 'whys' and 'hows' with the NieR story, learning the Prometheus bit is a huuuuuge puzzle piece. Great video!
It just feels like the story itself couldn't decide if the robots where sentient (aside from Adam and Eve who are blatantly an evolution of the robots). Like, they seriously do mimic human behaviors for no reason without any purpose, cause, or understanding of why they're doing it. I get that that's supposed to be a philosophical question asking "why do any of us do anything" but I'd argue humans understand why we have babies. These robots don't. Same with the forest kingdom. They keep putting baby robots in charge expecting them to grow up, but they're robots. They've lived their own existence and should know that's not how tf that works, but they don't understand. They have no consciousness towards what they're doing it. Anyway. I love Nier but I think they really flubbed the sheep on making them fully sentient when they rarely act like it. They act more like animals, and I think it works better that way. Yes, the robots the androids are killing are basically unevolved apes, but they're still monsters for killing animals so callously. And then they evolve into the sentiment beings Adam and Eve, who are clearly capable of much higher thought than any of the other robots.
@@handgun559 I think they are actually fully sentient, but are trying to find meaning and purpose now that they have no reason to fight, so are still exploring the possibilities.
Huh, it always irked me how the city ruins and every other 'human' structure look like they'd only been abandoned for a few decades, despite Automata taking place thousands of years in the future. Turns out all these city structures were just androids constantly rebuilding human architecture in an attempt to copy them. Neat!
@handgun559 I'd say in Nier, nothing can be expected lmfao. I'd already beaten both games at the time so it didn't spoil me, just was making a funny joke
@@edenofthewest353 no, for sure. I was just riffing. Because protagonist beats antagonist sounds like it's not a spoiler at all, but Nier moves so much that it somehow is still a spoiler.
So one interesting thing to note: For all intents and purposes, the androids in the NieR series are *essentially* cyborgs with artificial souls, rather than conscious intelligent machines. We know they were developed using magic specifically derived from Angelus, we know they're capable of using magic- something only a being with a soul can do- and we also know they're not affected by White Chlorination. We also know from Automata that they're a combination of biological material (having blood, organs and functioning brains), man-made materials/magics, and using the Machine Cores as the main powerplant and networking solution, running a custom OS. They are, functionally, humans. They can taste, eat, drink, get drunk. Biologically they're all based off different unique humans' genetic code. In a way, they're just enhanced Replicants that are immune to the Black Scrawl, having no gestalt. A2 is, explicitly, based off Kaine's genetic code. Now I bring this up because, by all this presented, it is entirely feasible that the androids could have *literally* given birth to a new generation of humans if they just gave themselves the capacity to do so, and if I wanted to be speculative about the end-game of YorHa, that'd probably be the end-goal after wiping machines off the face of the Earth. Bring humans "back from the moon", by literally just incubating and birthing humans using whatever genetic information they have available. *Edit: A2 isn't based off Kaine, but rather, the human that became Kaine's Gestalt.
I got maybe five minutes into the video before I remembered why I hated this game so much. Whoever is responsible for the scenario doesn't know what they are doing. The Humans and later androids have more than one mechanism available to try and ensure human survival and they only seem to use one. They should have just stored multiple copies of the human genome around the world, and in other parts of the solar system. (Through their androids.) But everyone had to be so painfully stupid. I'm glad I called it quits after the first scenario. If I had actually played through the game and had to deal with these "revelations" I think I would have lost brain cells. This is almost worse than Callisto Protocol where the scenario writer in that game gave the antagonists a far easier technology to develop that would have achieved their goals without the stupid uncontrollable monsters. Dear scenario writers stop coming up with rube goldberg plots that fall apart because you give your own setting two or three different ways to solve a problem that don't get used because people are ten times more brain dead in your setting than they are in real life.
@@metachronicler well the it’s setup for the premise of the story, so it’s not that important. As for those revelations, they’re something you’ve gotta hunt for in side areas and out-of-game content, like the novellas and audio dramas.
@@metachroniclerThat's the grant of salt you have to take with every story. The things that are happening are *supposed* to happen and when alternatives are presented and/or discussed in story, it's meant to make you think "I *could've gone different, but it *dind't* and now we are here". This apllies to every form of mediaand no matter how stupid it is most of the times, it is the current of events the writters want to portray.
The biggest irony of Automata is that the machine lifeforms were designed as imitations of Emil, who was a human, who were fighting against the androids, who fought for humanity. They really were on the same side all along to the deepest level.
Memory thorn actually starts with them investigating the lost shrine, rather than the barren temple. I think it's neat that both locations were brought back for those stories!
Thats because the information is all over the place, many things being Japan exclusive. I love Nier/drakengard universe, but holy shit trying to get the whole story is a feat of it's own, being on different platforms, different mediums. Also there are plenty of things left ambiguous, like for example the watchers and that android girl from D3.
Actually replicants are not supposed to be able to reproduce, so if the Gestalt project had been successful, by uniting the soul with the body they would be able to reproduce. Basically, the replicants cannot reproduce because they lack the soul, when the two are united, they could. Then you can say: What does it have to do that the replicants cannot reproduce when they are the body and the soul is something else that should not be necessary, well the answer is yoko taro.
I always thought of it as the reproductive systems were deactivated, with the Gestalt program including instructional code to "re-activate" the disabled functions.
I spent years memorizing all of this lore for my infinite timeline loop theory and hearing the humor in this makes me so happy. I love your work. Thank you
The 10H story , 25:08, is by far my favorite NieR short story for small details that were not mentioned on the video. One of these is in the hatch that leads to the ocean. When 10H first sees the hatch, she notices a black spot on it. This black spot is later revealed to be the a mark left by previous versions of 10H. The other detail left out is what makes it my favorite short story. Right before the story ends, the pod starts talking to himself in a nostalgic matter. Shortly after, he mentions how this is the 46th time that 10H has figured out the truth. This one sentence makes this story to be a never-ending loop: 10H’s tragic fate. 10H is eventually saved from this fate by the end of NieR: Automata when The Tower launches a rocket to the moon, destroying the server, and every trace of humanity left.
The rocket never launches tho Niether in ending C (because A2 shuts down the machine network) or D (because the machines decide to launch an Ark with their data instead of a rocket at the moon, influenced by Adam, Eve, the Androids, and the humans.)
Actually, the thing that the tower shoots, its actually a big ball of info that was launched to the moon for the reamining replicants to use, so they can develop second gen Androids
@@ComplexAce i was thinking the same thing, but still thought her mission ended with her being saved. At the end of Niers D ending the pods also start to loosen their leash on the androids so to speak. The completely resign 2B and 9S of their missions is seems. Figure when the ark reach the moon and the pods update with those on earth then they might let 10H go.
@@jadebayoba7073 I don't think it was launched to the moon, I think the AI specifically states it is sending it in to space away from earth for the chance that the info it contains on machine life will land on another world (for another civilization to find and learn from, or for machine life to start from scratch?). It specifically states it doesn't know if it will ever reach another world, but doesn't care, it's shooting them off in to space anyways
Genuinely, Nier Gestalt/ Replicant is my favourite game and before the game released, I was so dang excited to find someone that had proper info dumps and lore pieces that helped recap some missing parts and even the new additions to the series with Automata! Your videos have been an absolute treat and I really enjoy your content, thank you so much for your die hard Nier nerdery, it’s been so nice to catch up on all the pieces of this series puzzle! 💛
I recently discovered your channel and since watched everything Drakengard/Nier related. Helped me a lot after finishing Replicant 1.22 and Automata and not understanding a lot. Keep it up, you're doing a great job, and I'm sure your channel will grow like it deserves !
All this lore.....it's insane. The best part, this is a really damn good story. It's amazing how Yoko Taro can make these stories and hardly ever flip with it. There are like an extremely few amount of flaws that are so minuscule that they arent important in the grand scheme of things. This is why I have extreme respect for him
dude i love this series on nier, you articulate the confusing timeline so well, while dropping in jokes that aren’t too distracting and keep it fun with the editing, appreciate your work!
What an eye opening vid. I never knew all the backstory. I knew there was more to the story than just the game, an it's fascinating what they've incorporated into the whole experience. Great vid.
Haven't watched it yet, but can already tell by past videos and the length that this is a good one! More infodump material for my partner when she starts Replicant! Thank you!
unbelievable how your videos are attractive to watch, and had a plenty of information, it's my first time playing any of these games at all and now they like an anime series must be played in order.
I've never played any of the Drakengard series but have beaten both Nier games and honestly I think I would have understood about a 1/3 of it if it wasn't for your videos. I know they have to be so much work. Thank you so much!
From what was stated it's because he is very efficient at agthering data due to his curiosity. So it's really a choice of efficient work that is interrupted sometimes when the truth comes out or having less efficient models that take more time for the same work but without a casualty once every few weeks
In addition to what other commenters said, keeping 9S around is in line with the android leaders’ thirst for data - he’s a rogue input that can allow for them to discover new mappings. And curiosity is something natural to humans, and understand humans seems to be a key obsession for the droids.
Your are doing a great service to a nier fan like me. Keep up the good work. Questions that I had but didn't really bother about, although I absolutely love this game are being answered on after another.
I watched most of nier related media out there and while watching that i thought "damn this is very well made how did i miss that?" Then realized it has been only four hourse since it was out. Great video man!
I have a theory that the events of the Drakengard games and Nier series is just a time loop. The "Ancient City" that arrives before Drakengard 3 looks like it came the modern world and all the magic books in the libraries are just extra grimoires like Noir, Weiss, and Rubicon. So I figure Caim and Angelus didn't go to another world but just the future to start the time loop. I know it sounds weird but I can't find anything in the games or supplementary materials that says it couldn't be possible.
I really doubt it, if it is the future then humanitu would have tech remates to magic but that doesn't happen until Angelus and Cain arrives to our world, not a time loop but a jump between realms/universe
@@alanalb1449 My theory is the arrival of the Watchers wrecked the world but after Caim took the Garantuan Mother to the present, humanity took over the world, wiping out the remaining magical beings and destroying the remaining grimoires so over time they became the source of myths.
I would like to point out that your video at 14:22 -14:56 is a very slowed-down version (Neon Genesis Evangelion song Decisive Battle) just wanted to point it out because it is so low-key its awesome
26:50 you're mentioning H-10 on the moon. We're gonna be getting more lore in Nier: Reincarnation, as that was just shown in the new chapters as an end scene 👀 can't wait to see how Reincarnation ties into this ❤
A Much too Silent Sea is one of the best stand alone stories I’ve ever read, you don’t even need to know anything about the game for it to be a great little mystery thriller that restates so many of Niers themes - the cycle, a purposeless mission, continues for eternity after her memory is wiped
Wee! Fun video!! :D Here are some notes if you’d like: @12:45 The machines didn’t kill the aliens because they wanted to live, it was because the aliens were too primitive and couldn’t evolve along with the machines. The machines merely got too powerful for them to handle. Additionally, the aliens also gave the machines the command to “destroy the enemy”, so it may be possible that the aliens were the first to strike the machines from which the machines would then see the aliens as the enemy and destroy them. @19:19 1941 (you said 1945) @19:30 No2 wasn’t the leader of the mission, that was No1, who was destroyed upon descent. No2 wasn’t made captain until after they landed. @19:45 Not sure where the “lone wolf” bit came from, but that’s not in any of the source material. It’s never stated that the false memories actually come from human personality data; that’s speculation, however likely. @23:30 The M Squad of YoRHa weren’t Type M YoRHa. There were Scanners, Gunners, Attackers, and a Healer… Pretty typical. We don’t ever see Type M YoRHa, although Yoko stated that there are designations for every letter of the alphabet. We just haven’t seen them. @24:35 The No9 in YoRHa Boys is not the same individual android as 9S because he’s already been activated prior to this (he’s first activated on January 30, 11942; the M Squad mission takes place later that July), so they are unrelated in that regard. Merely, they are both No9 YoRHa, so they share the same base personality. That’s about all that connects them. @30:18 The machines have been present on the Bunker as early as December 8, 11941 during the Pearl Harbor Descent Mission. @31:46 It’s stated during the NieR Orchestra Concert 12018 that they’ve met (for the first time) 47 times prior to the prologue, so it could be safe to say that this number also corresponds to the number of times she’s killed him. So by the end of the prologue that would be 48 times.
Thanks a lot for the notes! I can't believe I messed up the Pearl Harbour date 😅. 47 times in the three years plus two months from activation to the prologue, which means your average 9S unit lasts 24.5 days. Poor dude can't catch a break.
Brando!! Man I gotta say, I’ve watched all your Nier videos from beginning to end numerous times. Seriously my favorite videos on TH-cam. You are severely underrated, and the quality of these videos is nuts. Shout out 9s being killed by 2b CONSTANTLY Been there
heyyyyy the pearl harbour landing was in the game actually. I spoke to Anemone twice as A2 and she let me read the archives from the terminal behind her. Nice to see where that officially fits in now
Greatly appreciate these videos. Seriously answering most if not all of my questions while throwing in new information that some of us may not know of. Plus you do a great job of entertainment, keep it up. And please keep making these NieR and Drakengard lore videos please
Very nice video, had to stop watching at the NieR Reincarnation collab thing though since I wanna experience that. Noticed I'm not even subscribed yet I get every video you do which is good, But I'm gonna subscribe. Looking forward to all your future content!
Bro i have like 5 videos from you in my watch later until i realised they're all from you. Im currently playing through replicant and will enjoy all your lore videos late :3
The only disappointing thing about you making more videos is there is less for you to cover in the future because of how thorough you are. Keep up the amazing work!!
It's a year now, so I'm not even sure you look back at these comments. I played Automata because my buddy bought it and his PS4 ended up tanking and he ended up giving it to me. I bought Replicant about a year later... Holy shit, was the story so captivating! There was so much in between that I struggled to grasp or was completely miss from the game. Not only do you fill in those blanks, but you explain it so well and expertly! Like some other comments have said, when the next video comes out, you just immediately have to watch it! I really hope your channel continues to grow and with the fan base ever growing, I see that happening! in the meantime, I'll keep watching the great content!
Great video! Maybe in the near future you can upload a video about Accord since she is an android and appears in Drakengard and Nier I think is an interesting character
Actually. I'm starting to be more inclined to believe Adam either said "Help", "Stop" or "Free" 2B. Obviously 9S dun wanna die. But with 9S clearly having an emotional attechment to 2B. Een do the point where a prior version of him killed himself in order to keep 2B from being deemed a failure. I think he'd be more motivated to wanting to break this cycle.
I think it was blanked out because it has multiple meaning. 9S obviously cares for 2B a lot, but he also has those subconscious memories about her killing him over and over, and deep down he likely hates her or fears her for that. He is confused over whether he wants to love, fuck, free, or kill 2B, and Adam can see that. That blank space could represent every feeling 2B has for 9S at once, both consciously and subconsciously:
@@southofheck Yeah it's is. And it's what I hate the most. The ending of "we will leave it to your own imagination/interpretation" it's so common in Japanese stories.
I would say the reason they keep remaking 9s is the same reason the machine lifeforms keep repeating mistakes. I wander what the point to it all maybe emotions is the thing humans leave behind that any lifeform made or lands on earth ends up in countering. A lot of the games since drag-on dragoon have vary similar lines spoken that really makes you think could they be the same guy like young Nier and 9s case they go through tough times and go crazy even to the bloodshed Caim had in drakengard because of his hardships. Well good series that makes you think to really amazing ideas.
Super accurate yoko likes making his fans earn the tiniest scrap of lore. Probably stuff thsts not ever been discovered that could blow the door wide open on what we even know.
I have a theory of how the FFXIV Nier crossover YoRHa: Dark Apocalypse is possibly cannon and fills in the loose ends in Drakengard if anyone is interested.
As someone who has never played the Nier games, let me answer your question. I finished up the Nier raids in FF14 and I was very confused. Who are these people? Why are they wearing blindfolds? What do they mean a war between androids and machines? Aren't androids machines? So I started watching videos explaining this stuff. Yours have been quite clear and helpful. So thank you.
Was waiting for this, did not disappoint. I can now say without a doubt that I mostly understand all the events from (& between) both main Nier games... so maybe 35% of the lore total? Thanks. I'm sure this percentage will only increase once I finally play Reincarnation, and not have the opposite effect....
I haven't played Automata, or Replicant actually. I feel down a Draken Guard Rabbit whole and here I am. I have decided I will play Automata after I finish my first run of FF7 which I am enjoying but that's another story. I like the lore but for the most part I am trying preserve the vibe so I am accepting some light spoilers and consuming side content in my down time. I like these videos a lot actually, I appreciate the warning for major spoilers and like the light hearted parts with the minor ones which I am here for anyway.
Me, memorizing the entirety of nier lore instead of studying for my drivers license, high school or college
this is accurate
Fuck college... Just buy the damn text book, and read it.
But hey if you can comprehend this on crack genius story, you can pretty much understand anything
Hey that's me! I should probably get back to work now...
Hah, what a poser. I'm in doctor residency right now and I was studying neir the whole time in med school. Btw does anyone know the right way to remove a kidney?
Per the NieR: Orchestra Concert re:12018, we know that 2B killed 47 times before Nier Automata (48 if we include Ending A). Given that 9S was first activated about 3.5 years (196 weeks) before the events of Nier Automata, we can estimate that 2B killed 9S about once a month on average.
What a schedule
wait she kills 9s everytime? so they just remove his memories and kills him again if he learns the truth again?
@@rhumyvannromantico1807 yeah, 🙄🤣
What’s the point??
@@cidfacetious3722 9S is very masochistic and 2B happens to be the best sadist he could find.
For someone who has struggled immensely with understanding the 'whys' and 'hows' with the NieR story, learning the Prometheus bit is a huuuuuge puzzle piece. Great video!
Yeah I definitely feel that way as well
Seriously!!! It's SUCH a crucial piece!
It just feels like the story itself couldn't decide if the robots where sentient (aside from Adam and Eve who are blatantly an evolution of the robots). Like, they seriously do mimic human behaviors for no reason without any purpose, cause, or understanding of why they're doing it. I get that that's supposed to be a philosophical question asking "why do any of us do anything" but I'd argue humans understand why we have babies. These robots don't. Same with the forest kingdom. They keep putting baby robots in charge expecting them to grow up, but they're robots. They've lived their own existence and should know that's not how tf that works, but they don't understand. They have no consciousness towards what they're doing it.
Anyway. I love Nier but I think they really flubbed the sheep on making them fully sentient when they rarely act like it. They act more like animals, and I think it works better that way. Yes, the robots the androids are killing are basically unevolved apes, but they're still monsters for killing animals so callously. And then they evolve into the sentiment beings Adam and Eve, who are clearly capable of much higher thought than any of the other robots.
@@handgun559 I think they are actually fully sentient, but are trying to find meaning and purpose now that they have no reason to fight, so are still exploring the possibilities.
Nier music was at the olympics.
We've made it bros
I. Hear. A. Sound.
Wow, that's awesome!
What was it used for and which track if you don’t mind?
@@mixanblend opening ceremony during the walk of nations and Song of the Ancients
@@tomasgarcia7499 That's a good choice.
“If 9s is taken out, well I mean that’s just a Tuesday” that made my Tuesday 😂
Huh, it always irked me how the city ruins and every other 'human' structure look like they'd only been abandoned for a few decades, despite Automata taking place thousands of years in the future. Turns out all these city structures were just androids constantly rebuilding human architecture in an attempt to copy them. Neat!
Beepy really said "damn I'm kinda scared of getting blown up, lemme just change the course of history forever real quick"
Beepy is based
common beepy W
I never realized the aliens invading was a fuckin Independence Day reference. God dammit Yoko Taro you genius.
"This is gonna be full of spoilers"
How full of spoilers could it be-
"So Nier kills Shadowlord at the end of replicant."
I mean, he warned it was gonna be full of spoilers and it’s about what after replicant lol
The main protagonist beats the final antagonist reveals early in the game should not be THAT big of a spoiler
@handgun559 I'd say in Nier, nothing can be expected lmfao. I'd already beaten both games at the time so it didn't spoil me, just was making a funny joke
@@edenofthewest353 no, for sure. I was just riffing. Because protagonist beats antagonist sounds like it's not a spoiler at all, but Nier moves so much that it somehow is still a spoiler.
Better than "So Nier killed Nier at the end of Replicant."
My history teacher: okay class we shall be learning about the history of nier this will be worth 100% of your grade you have 2 days learn everything
That's too much time
I feel like I would prolly fail...
@@bluebandit9715 Gives you enough time to play Drakengard and try to get some extra points on the exam
@@Redzeths fair
@@0sn4ke0 How would you failed? Since you think you’re going to failed, please leave this classroom and never come back until you have balls.
So one interesting thing to note: For all intents and purposes, the androids in the NieR series are *essentially* cyborgs with artificial souls, rather than conscious intelligent machines. We know they were developed using magic specifically derived from Angelus, we know they're capable of using magic- something only a being with a soul can do- and we also know they're not affected by White Chlorination. We also know from Automata that they're a combination of biological material (having blood, organs and functioning brains), man-made materials/magics, and using the Machine Cores as the main powerplant and networking solution, running a custom OS. They are, functionally, humans. They can taste, eat, drink, get drunk. Biologically they're all based off different unique humans' genetic code. In a way, they're just enhanced Replicants that are immune to the Black Scrawl, having no gestalt. A2 is, explicitly, based off Kaine's genetic code.
Now I bring this up because, by all this presented, it is entirely feasible that the androids could have *literally* given birth to a new generation of humans if they just gave themselves the capacity to do so, and if I wanted to be speculative about the end-game of YorHa, that'd probably be the end-goal after wiping machines off the face of the Earth. Bring humans "back from the moon", by literally just incubating and birthing humans using whatever genetic information they have available.
*Edit: A2 isn't based off Kaine, but rather, the human that became Kaine's Gestalt.
I got maybe five minutes into the video before I remembered why I hated this game so much. Whoever is responsible for the scenario doesn't know what they are doing. The Humans and later androids have more than one mechanism available to try and ensure human survival and they only seem to use one. They should have just stored multiple copies of the human genome around the world, and in other parts of the solar system. (Through their androids.) But everyone had to be so painfully stupid.
I'm glad I called it quits after the first scenario. If I had actually played through the game and had to deal with these "revelations" I think I would have lost brain cells. This is almost worse than Callisto Protocol where the scenario writer in that game gave the antagonists a far easier technology to develop that would have achieved their goals without the stupid uncontrollable monsters. Dear scenario writers stop coming up with rube goldberg plots that fall apart because you give your own setting two or three different ways to solve a problem that don't get used because people are ten times more brain dead in your setting than they are in real life.
@@metachronicler well the it’s setup for the premise of the story, so it’s not that important. As for those revelations, they’re something you’ve gotta hunt for in side areas and out-of-game content, like the novellas and audio dramas.
@@metachroniclerThat's the grant of salt you have to take with every story. The things that are happening are *supposed* to happen and when alternatives are presented and/or discussed in story, it's meant to make you think "I *could've gone different, but it *dind't* and now we are here".
This apllies to every form of mediaand no matter how stupid it is most of the times, it is the current of events the writters want to portray.
@@solracstormhunter3023 yeah that's called suspension of disbelief
Lol, wut
The biggest irony of Automata is that the machine lifeforms were designed as imitations of Emil, who was a human, who were fighting against the androids, who fought for humanity. They really were on the same side all along to the deepest level.
Dude, your like the vaatividya of the Nier Universe! Great content, great research and great presentation - keep up the quality content, it's awesome!
Thanks a lot! Glad you like it
Memory thorn actually starts with them investigating the lost shrine, rather than the barren temple. I think it's neat that both locations were brought back for those stories!
Can't believe bp-33 ended up having such an influence to the machines so long after his fight with nier and the gang.
Even having played the games and watching tons of explanations... I'm still always left feeling baffled.
Thats because the information is all over the place, many things being Japan exclusive. I love Nier/drakengard universe, but holy shit trying to get the whole story is a feat of it's own, being on different platforms, different mediums. Also there are plenty of things left ambiguous, like for example the watchers and that android girl from D3.
Actually replicants are not supposed to be able to reproduce, so if the Gestalt project had been successful, by uniting the soul with the body they would be able to reproduce. Basically, the replicants cannot reproduce because they lack the soul, when the two are united, they could.
Then you can say: What does it have to do that the replicants cannot reproduce when they are the body and the soul is something else that should not be necessary, well the answer is yoko taro.
I always thought of it as the reproductive systems were deactivated, with the Gestalt program including instructional code to "re-activate" the disabled functions.
I love how the NieR world shifts between such drastic situations without ever feeling like it gets better
Truly, the Tokyo Revengers of videogames. Somehow, things just keep getting worse.
Just like how the lore of the game gets more and more stupidly placed, that im actually expecting it to be placed in fortune cookies.
Ik, it’s almost like real life…
Bro I really hope the algorithm is nice to you, your content is great
I spent years memorizing all of this lore for my infinite timeline loop theory and hearing the humor in this makes me so happy. I love your work. Thank you
The 10H story , 25:08, is by far my favorite NieR short story for small details that were not mentioned on the video.
One of these is in the hatch that leads to the ocean. When 10H first sees the hatch, she notices a black spot on it. This black spot is later revealed to be the a mark left by previous versions of 10H.
The other detail left out is what makes it my favorite short story. Right before the story ends, the pod starts talking to himself in a nostalgic matter. Shortly after, he mentions how this is the 46th time that 10H has figured out the truth. This one sentence makes this story to be a never-ending loop: 10H’s tragic fate.
10H is eventually saved from this fate by the end of NieR: Automata when The Tower launches a rocket to the moon, destroying the server, and every trace of humanity left.
The rocket never launches tho
Niether in ending C (because A2 shuts down the machine network) or D (because the machines decide to launch an Ark with their data instead of a rocket at the moon, influenced by Adam, Eve, the Androids, and the humans.)
Actually, the thing that the tower shoots, its actually a big ball of info that was launched to the moon for the reamining replicants to use, so they can develop second gen Androids
@@ComplexAce i was thinking the same thing, but still thought her mission ended with her being saved. At the end of Niers D ending the pods also start to loosen their leash on the androids so to speak. The completely resign 2B and 9S of their missions is seems. Figure when the ark reach the moon and the pods update with those on earth then they might let 10H go.
@@handgun559 Afaik the pods are smarter the lower their designation number is, so I'm really hoping Pod 06 frees her after E
@@jadebayoba7073 I don't think it was launched to the moon, I think the AI specifically states it is sending it in to space away from earth for the chance that the info it contains on machine life will land on another world (for another civilization to find and learn from, or for machine life to start from scratch?). It specifically states it doesn't know if it will ever reach another world, but doesn't care, it's shooting them off in to space anyways
Genuinely, Nier Gestalt/ Replicant is my favourite game and before the game released, I was so dang excited to find someone that had proper info dumps and lore pieces that helped recap some missing parts and even the new additions to the series with Automata! Your videos have been an absolute treat and I really enjoy your content, thank you so much for your die hard Nier nerdery, it’s been so nice to catch up on all the pieces of this series puzzle! 💛
I recently discovered your channel and since watched everything Drakengard/Nier related. Helped me a lot after finishing Replicant 1.22 and Automata and not understanding a lot.
Keep it up, you're doing a great job, and I'm sure your channel will grow like it deserves !
Damn... Thanks! Hope so!
Same honestly, i really like this guys content
All this lore.....it's insane. The best part, this is a really damn good story. It's amazing how Yoko Taro can make these stories and hardly ever flip with it. There are like an extremely few amount of flaws that are so minuscule that they arent important in the grand scheme of things. This is why I have extreme respect for him
I always admire him so I was so surprised to find out the man hives actual presentations on how he crafts his stories on TH-cam lol
dude i love this series on nier, you articulate the confusing timeline so well, while dropping in jokes that aren’t too distracting and keep it fun with the editing, appreciate your work!
Glad you enjoy it!
What an eye opening vid. I never knew all the backstory. I knew there was more to the story than just the game, an it's fascinating what they've incorporated into the whole experience. Great vid.
Haven't watched it yet, but can already tell by past videos and the length that this is a good one! More infodump material for my partner when she starts Replicant! Thank you!
24:51 This short story just got a LOT more relevant!
unbelievable how your videos are attractive to watch, and had a plenty of information, it's my first time playing any of these games at all and now they like an anime series must be played in order.
I've never played any of the Drakengard series but have beaten both Nier games and honestly I think I would have understood about a 1/3 of it if it wasn't for your videos. I know they have to be so much work. Thank you so much!
the question still remains: why did yorha keep reviving 9S when he's such a bother keeping on discovering yorha's secret?
From what was stated it's because he is very efficient at agthering data due to his curiosity. So it's really a choice of efficient work that is interrupted sometimes when the truth comes out or having less efficient models that take more time for the same work but without a casualty once every few weeks
@@MRorizs2 oh yeah that too. The dynamic has a greater narrative purpose than just what is stated in the game! Good that you outlined it :)
In addition to what other commenters said, keeping 9S around is in line with the android leaders’ thirst for data - he’s a rogue input that can allow for them to discover new mappings. And curiosity is something natural to humans, and understand humans seems to be a key obsession for the droids.
Your are doing a great service to a nier fan like me. Keep up the good work. Questions that I had but didn't really bother about, although I absolutely love this game are being answered on after another.
I watched most of nier related media out there and while watching that i thought "damn this is very well made how did i miss that?" Then realized it has been only four hourse since it was out. Great video man!
I just want to say that your videos are amazing and your delivery of the material is just on point. Seriously, keep it up.
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Can't get enough of these Nier lore videos even after years of finishing the game
I appreciate the Evangelion musical reference at 14:22 :0
I have a theory that the events of the Drakengard games and Nier series is just a time loop. The "Ancient City" that arrives before Drakengard 3 looks like it came the modern world and all the magic books in the libraries are just extra grimoires like Noir, Weiss, and Rubicon. So I figure Caim and Angelus didn't go to another world but just the future to start the time loop. I know it sounds weird but I can't find anything in the games or supplementary materials that says it couldn't be possible.
I really doubt it, if it is the future then humanitu would have tech remates to magic but that doesn't happen until Angelus and Cain arrives to our world, not a time loop but a jump between realms/universe
@@alanalb1449 My theory is the arrival of the Watchers wrecked the world but after Caim took the Garantuan Mother to the present, humanity took over the world, wiping out the remaining magical beings and destroying the remaining grimoires so over time they became the source of myths.
I would like to point out that your video at 14:22 -14:56 is a very slowed-down version (Neon Genesis Evangelion song Decisive Battle) just wanted to point it out because it is so low-key its awesome
26:50 you're mentioning H-10 on the moon. We're gonna be getting more lore in Nier: Reincarnation, as that was just shown in the new chapters as an end scene 👀 can't wait to see how Reincarnation ties into this ❤
A Much too Silent Sea is one of the best stand alone stories I’ve ever read, you don’t even need to know anything about the game for it to be a great little mystery thriller that restates so many of Niers themes - the cycle, a purposeless mission, continues for eternity after her memory is wiped
Wee! Fun video!! :D
Here are some notes if you’d like:
@12:45 The machines didn’t kill the aliens because they wanted to live, it was because the aliens were too primitive and couldn’t evolve along with the machines. The machines merely got too powerful for them to handle. Additionally, the aliens also gave the machines the command to “destroy the enemy”, so it may be possible that the aliens were the first to strike the machines from which the machines would then see the aliens as the enemy and destroy them.
@19:19 1941 (you said 1945)
@19:30 No2 wasn’t the leader of the mission, that was No1, who was destroyed upon descent. No2 wasn’t made captain until after they landed.
@19:45 Not sure where the “lone wolf” bit came from, but that’s not in any of the source material. It’s never stated that the false memories actually come from human personality data; that’s speculation, however likely.
@23:30 The M Squad of YoRHa weren’t Type M YoRHa. There were Scanners, Gunners, Attackers, and a Healer… Pretty typical. We don’t ever see Type M YoRHa, although Yoko stated that there are designations for every letter of the alphabet. We just haven’t seen them.
@24:35 The No9 in YoRHa Boys is not the same individual android as 9S because he’s already been activated prior to this (he’s first activated on January 30, 11942; the M Squad mission takes place later that July), so they are unrelated in that regard. Merely, they are both No9 YoRHa, so they share the same base personality. That’s about all that connects them.
@30:18 The machines have been present on the Bunker as early as December 8, 11941 during the Pearl Harbor Descent Mission.
@31:46 It’s stated during the NieR Orchestra Concert 12018 that they’ve met (for the first time) 47 times prior to the prologue, so it could be safe to say that this number also corresponds to the number of times she’s killed him. So by the end of the prologue that would be 48 times.
Thanks a lot for the notes! I can't believe I messed up the Pearl Harbour date 😅.
47 times in the three years plus two months from activation to the prologue, which means your average 9S unit lasts 24.5 days. Poor dude can't catch a break.
@@ThBrando my boy is ridiculously curious smh
Brando!! Man I gotta say, I’ve watched all your Nier videos from beginning to end numerous times. Seriously my favorite videos on TH-cam. You are severely underrated, and the quality of these videos is nuts. Shout out 9s being killed by 2b CONSTANTLY
Been there
Subbed after finishing both Nier games. I will probably watch this over since there is so much information. Thank you
No problem! Hope you enjoy the video!
heyyyyy the pearl harbour landing was in the game actually. I spoke to Anemone twice as A2 and she let me read the archives from the terminal behind her.
Nice to see where that officially fits in now
Greatly appreciate these videos. Seriously answering most if not all of my questions while throwing in new information that some of us may not know of. Plus you do a great job of entertainment, keep it up. And please keep making these NieR and Drakengard lore videos please
Thanks for the heads up about Nier:Automata spoilers, I'll put this in my "watch later" playlist and watch it once I've finished playing Nier:Automata
Man the way you telling the story is awesome and the humour is nice too 😂😂 keep up the good work
Plato's story and the music video in the DLC hit me HARD considering how short it was
22:00 so are those 3 ‘traitor’ androids we kill in the side quest the other 3 survivors from A2’s suicide mission?
Very nice video, had to stop watching at the NieR Reincarnation collab thing though since I wanna experience that. Noticed I'm not even subscribed yet I get every video you do which is good, But I'm gonna subscribe. Looking forward to all your future content!
Bro i have like 5 videos from you in my watch later until i realised they're all from you. Im currently playing through replicant and will enjoy all your lore videos late :3
Much appreciated, hope you enjoy them!
Loved this. Finally got all the pieces put together. When I replay both games I'll def be more invested.
Great video man. I thought I knew nier lore pretty well but holy crap I learned a lot!
Yo I think I'm finally beginning to understand nier, thanks dude
Great video! Thanks for rounding up all this information. The Nier lore is pretty extensive.
The only disappointing thing about you making more videos is there is less for you to cover in the future because of how thorough you are. Keep up the amazing work!!
This videos should become a part of the Nier timeline and canon
It's a year now, so I'm not even sure you look back at these comments. I played Automata because my buddy bought it and his PS4 ended up tanking and he ended up giving it to me. I bought Replicant about a year later... Holy shit, was the story so captivating! There was so much in between that I struggled to grasp or was completely miss from the game. Not only do you fill in those blanks, but you explain it so well and expertly! Like some other comments have said, when the next video comes out, you just immediately have to watch it! I really hope your channel continues to grow and with the fan base ever growing, I see that happening! in the meantime, I'll keep watching the great content!
TH-cam puts every comment in the same place so I've got a chance to read through them all. Glad you liked the video
@@ThBrando I'm sure it's been said but Pearl Harbor was on December 7, 1941. By December 8, 1945, the war had been long over.
Thanks for this video! You're awesome.
I was so excited for this video, thanks for your work.
Best Nier videos so far IMO, keep it up!
Your one of my new favorite youtubers,keep up the great work
Thanks, will do
Thanks for this video! I needed it!
Excellent video, as always!
One of the best videos I've seen in years. Love your humor, definitely subbing
Great video! Maybe in the near future you can upload a video about Accord since she is an android and appears in Drakengard and Nier I think is an interesting character
Definitely on the list!
Well put togethor videos, easy to digest and fun to listen to whilst working, thanks Brando
Oh this evangelion theme! Good stuff, sir
Thanks for all the Nier Lore Content, I love these Series so much :)
I've been binging all yours videos they're so entertaining keep up the great work!
I plan to, glad you liked them!
My first video of you and you won me over! I was hooked and the humor was good, insta subscribe.
Now I am absolutely convinced that 9S wanted to kill 2B which adam implied as an open blank at the end of the game.
Actually. I'm starting to be more inclined to believe Adam either said "Help", "Stop" or "Free" 2B. Obviously 9S dun wanna die. But with 9S clearly having an emotional attechment to 2B. Een do the point where a prior version of him killed himself in order to keep 2B from being deemed a failure. I think he'd be more motivated to wanting to break this cycle.
I think it was blanked out because it has multiple meaning. 9S obviously cares for 2B a lot, but he also has those subconscious memories about her killing him over and over, and deep down he likely hates her or fears her for that. He is confused over whether he wants to love, fuck, free, or kill 2B, and Adam can see that. That blank space could represent every feeling 2B has for 9S at once, both consciously and subconsciously:
@@ThatGuyNikolas I don't know, I think that your perspective way to positive given what kind of game automata was.
@@southofheck Yeah it's is. And it's what I hate the most. The ending of "we will leave it to your own imagination/interpretation" it's so common in Japanese stories.
Your videos are truly amazing, informative and entertaining thank u!
Glad you like them!
Thank you for the video! It was awesome
Amazing video bro keep it up!!
Dude, that's a lot. Thank you so much
Love your videos thanks for the hard work
I love how modern day I’m earth just get wipes out and it goes back to midevil times but then Automata it looks completely different it’s so wild
I would say the reason they keep remaking 9s is the same reason the machine lifeforms keep repeating mistakes.
I wander what the point to it all maybe emotions is the thing humans leave behind that any lifeform made or lands on earth ends up in countering. A lot of the games since drag-on dragoon have vary similar lines spoken that really makes you think could they be the same guy like young Nier and 9s case they go through tough times and go crazy even to the bloodshed Caim had in drakengard because of his hardships. Well good series that makes you think to really amazing ideas.
@15:00 Adam and Eve are the catalyst for the machines to start fighting again.
I haven't played automata but I love lore videos so I'm here for all of it.
For me it's not that hard to keep up with.
Thank you so much for making these awesome videos of NieR lore
Never played nier, keeping decent track of what's going on at least the important bits. Enjoyed all 3 parts do far keep it up.
Thanks, will do!
You should play it because NieR: Automata is the kind of story that can really only land in something interactive like a video game
@@mercury2157 I've been playing it and can't agree more. The " this can not continue " bit is what really grabbed me by the nuts and pulled me in.
The music.
Super accurate yoko likes making his fans earn the tiniest scrap of lore. Probably stuff thsts not ever been discovered that could blow the door wide open on what we even know.
Thank you! These nier videos are gold.
Glad you like them!
Amazing video, you even covered stuff I didn’t know about and I thought I already knew everything about NieR. Well done 👍
14:20 8 bit version of one of the music tracks from anime NGE.
It's from the N64 Evangelion game soundtrack
14:12 Nice musical touch!
Brushing up on my nier lore and it was so awesome to see memory cage play out in the anime
I have a theory of how the FFXIV Nier crossover YoRHa: Dark Apocalypse is possibly cannon and fills in the loose ends in Drakengard if anyone is interested.
It’s confirmed all nier media is cannon
Everything nier related is canon
While it is already confirmed to be canon, I'd still like to hear your theory.
@@silverreaps6803 even 2B in soul calibur with Geriatric or whatever his ploughing name is?
@@thedarkderp2520 anything nier related that has some kind of lore is canon, i should've said
Cant wait for the next video!
*Cheers in Nier fixation*
As someone who has never played the Nier games, let me answer your question. I finished up the Nier raids in FF14 and I was very confused. Who are these people? Why are they wearing blindfolds? What do they mean a war between androids and machines? Aren't androids machines? So I started watching videos explaining this stuff. Yours have been quite clear and helpful. So thank you.
Was waiting for this, did not disappoint. I can now say without a doubt that I mostly understand all the events from (& between) both main Nier games... so maybe 35% of the lore total? Thanks.
I'm sure this percentage will only increase once I finally play Reincarnation, and not have the opposite effect....
With that one scene where we were 9S, going to Earth, I really thought we were in Canada, somewhere in Quebec, especially with all the Moose around
The American continents are actually covered in darkness so its safe to assume that YoRHa operated somewhere in Asia or Europe.
28:47 "But the machines were still learning from Zero"
Man I misheard it so bad
I haven't played Automata, or Replicant actually. I feel down a Draken Guard Rabbit whole and here I am. I have decided I will play Automata after I finish my first run of FF7 which I am enjoying but that's another story. I like the lore but for the most part I am trying preserve the vibe so I am accepting some light spoilers and consuming side content in my down time.
I like these videos a lot actually, I appreciate the warning for major spoilers and like the light hearted parts with the minor ones which I am here for anyway.
I love these videos keep going and there hilarious 😂
My take on this analysis: Beepy is a good boi. I love him more.