What did you guys think about Episode 2?! What are your thoughts on Cassie and Nate? How do you think Rue and Jules will end up? Do you think Maddy will release the tape? 😱 Let me know in the comments below. 👇
I was surprised she didn't say anything to him speaking to her daughters like that, she's not exactly the submissive type..however I think they were showing how controlling and intimidating he is.
I thought this was so invasive, too! I assume they were implying he has power, as a parent, with the other parents and showing his overall manipulation skills.
Thanks for acknowledging that these characters experiences are normal for some teens out there. A lot of people say it's a shit show because it's unrealistic and romanticizes this type of behavior but just because it's not realistic to most people doesn't mean it's not realistic to some. People just see the sex and violence and drugs and don't dig any deeper.
Not to mention the people saying this show romanticizes this type of behavior clearly have never seen the show, there's nothing romantic about any of these people's realities.
I hate those comments, they're so insensitive because myself and my friends can relate to A LOT of this show. Just because it's not your experience doesn't mean the experience doesn't exist for others. (Personally I have never seen myself in a main character the way I do with Rue)
I think it is important to note that no one has ever threatened to go to the police about Cal. Nate has been the only one throwing out threats. So that's an additional layer to his manipulative personality. Ultimately, Fez beat up Nate for calling the cops on him when all Nate had to do was leave everyone alone. But he can't tell his dad that. ETA: I totally forgot about the conversation with Rue. I will say that's not why Fez beat him up and Nate knows that. Nate is still manipulating things because that is just who he is.
In the season finale Rue specifically told Nate the she has no problem going to the police and telling them that his „daddy“ „likes to f*ck little kids“.. so.. kind of. The fact that deep down Nate is deeply insecure for many different reasons just leads to him feeling the need to protect himself and his family so that no one will see them for what they really are. He wants everyone to see them as these strong, dominant alpha males. And that video.. well :D
Well...rue did. She did explicitly say she would go to the cops if he didn't leave jules alone. In their little balcony/stairwell convo last season. But she only threatened that bc nate was threatening to go to the cops about Jules CP, I think....but yeah...he didn't lie. He just left out his own actions that caused the threats to be made in the first place. Which is in character for him and very manipulative.
@@poptart75 well I’m sorry but if that’s not a threat idk what is :D she basically threatened him by saying either you leave us alone or I’ll tell the police and ruin your life, soo..
I honestly just want to grab Cassie and give her the biggest hug. I know she is being such a shit friend to Maddy right now, but I can't help but look at everything she has gone through, especially in her teen years and empathise. She knows this going to hurt Maddy soo much and she knows Nate is not the greatest guy and yet she is still pursuing it? Part of me looks at her right now and just can't help but see my own self destructive behaviours at that age. I really don't think she's doing it hurt Maddy, I feel like she's doing it to hurt herself.
I agree with this empathy, and I feel so bad that Maddy is going to have to find out and be so hurt, too. It's never fun when we hurt others because we are hurt. It's all so messy. I can relate too, on both ends.
@@the.truth.doctor But at the same time though, people are forgetting that Cassie AND Lexi have the similar, close to equal mommy and daddy issues. I often feel that the trauma that is caused by WITNESSING other people’s trauma is just as harmful. For example, when Cassie got the abortion, of course it was more traumatic for Cassie. But how about Lexi? I believe it was also a traumatic experience for her to see her sister go through that.
@@jessibearxo cassie going through an abortion is not the same as lexi knowing her sister had an abortion.. what 😭 plus lexi and cassie are very different cassie has been taken advantage of as soon as she went through puberty because of her body while lexi has different problems by being ignored completely
@@listenidk9709 I mentioned that “of course it was more traumatic for Cassie”. I meant to highlight that a lot of people tend to ignore Lexi’s trauma because she isn’t crying 24/7 or doing self-destructive activities.
hey! i don´t know if you catch that but Jules kept showing up in Nate´s montage of his life with Cassie pregnant, what are your thoughts on that? great video!
I did! There was so much to discuss! He definitely still has urges for her and I wonder if the blonde hair has something to do with it (among other aspects). Thanks for commenting this!
i really thought about cassie being the perfect replacement for jules in his head. he thinks his best moral moment would be to just build a life with cassie insted of the violence in his relationship with maddy nor the "wrongness" he sees in his relation with jules (hence why he tried to destroy her, because she actually makes him question himself on his desires). edit: maybe not even the violence, just the fact that maddy fights back on him and cassie is reeeaaally meak and submissive
@Ju-gw6uq 100% I think Cassie is a perfect mix of what he THINKS would be ideal. Denying the "negative" parts of his other relationships, Maddie's strength and confidence - not submissive, and Jules' transness and his confusion with his sexuality. Cassie is like a gift to cure him from himself of those things (in a fked up toxic predatory way haha)
Also, on kat's storyline, theres a lot of theories on how her past with fanfiction ands p0rn affected her view on sex and relationships itself, the scene where a strong gladiator comes in witha sword kinda gives it away lol. What do you think of this view?
Everything we absorb affects how we see the world. P0rn has been shown to have a major affect on how we view sex and relationships, and actually so has fanfiction. I agree!
Another important thing is that Kat never tries to tell Ethan stuff that she wants them to try, probably because she doesn't want to scare him away. Both Ethan and Kat are very inexperienced sexually, so Kat also has unrealistic expectations of sex based on her rich fantasy world and is not willing to learn and grow with Ethan
@@nataliajimenez1870 as someone who relates and is Kat, she wants HIM to do it on his own because if she asks it ruins the fantasy. In books, the spicy love interest initiates everything and teaches the female MC the hot and heavy ropes of sex. Ethan, however, is very shy and non assertive as we saw in season 1 during the Halloween party. Kat says she doesn’t fuck virgins because they don’t know how to fuck and be dominant. I feel like if Ethan was more dominant and “macho,” she wouldn’t feel as insecure and torn about their relationship
i reckon cos shes like a bigger girl she prob dont see herself as feminine n shes insecure thats why she needs a well masculine man like how nate needs a well submissive girl
9:23 I’ve been thinking about this and considering this so much because what I see on Tik Tok and what my friends tell me. It really infuriates me because I have mental health disorders that make it very hard for me to believe positive things and see positive outcomes. So it kind of scares me when people say you can’t expect someone to love you if you don’t love yourself. Like I won’t ever be in a relationship until I fully love myself but that is incredibly hard for me to do because of how my brain is wired and balanced. I just wish the self care movement/ aesthetic reflected on more aspects like how to have self care with mental health issues. It just feels like it’s only made for people who need quick fixes like reading and walking or working out to love themselves. I don’t know, I’ve just been thinking about it a lot.
you absolutely don't need to love yourself to be able to love someone else. obviously this isn't the case for everyone but that quote is not a universal truth. you deserve love regardless of how you feel about yourself.
I honestly find it deeply upsetting the way people just brush off how Cassie was too drunk to consent to sex with ANYBODY at the New Year's party, because they don't like her behavior now and don't seem to understand that Rue's voiceovers reflect what a character believes to be true, not necessarily the actual truth (I mean, hello Nate and his it's-all-Maddy's-fault hospital moment). This girl was stumbling around, falling out of her shoes, even before Nate poured more beer into her. He had to help put her clothes back on after they almost got caught, for crying out loud! I'm not condoning or minimizing the destructive choices she's engaged in since, but Jesus, that doesn't look like "not all that drunk" to me. Is it really so hard to believe that Nate would be predatory and exploitative? Or that Cassie would lie to herself in order to excuse a man she craves validation from?
Yo... This wasn't even a thought I had because I was thinking about so many other things. Cassie's destructive choices, Sam Levinson pair Cassie with Nate. I didn't even think Cassie was doing any good or really processed her feelings after her abortion. That effed up.
@@1234demilovatofan Sam pairing Cassie and Nate makes a hell lot a sense. Cassie has a lot of issues regarding her sexualization, men treating her like a doormat, lack of self respect not to mention her abandonment issues accompanied with the trauma of going through an abortion. She has always let men walk all over her and is a people pleaser. pair it with someone as manipulative and self serving as Nate and viola you get what actually happens in real life. Men like Nate don't go after Maddy in real life but they go after the girls like cassie because even if you treat them like horribly, the childhood trauma of abandonment and not being good enough for their partner will not let them leave the said abusive partner.
@@ilhan691 Unfortunately not all my commentary can make it in each video after editing, but I can not WAIT to see how she grows. I love her character and I'm so excited for her storyline to continue to develop!
Thank you so much! Yes, I will be making a video for every episode and then going back to the special episodes because I don't really remember those from when I watched them so the reactions will be authentic like they are in all my other react videos :)
I'm in AA. The reason drunk/high people are sidelined is NOT because they will trigger the others. If the person is on heroin or meth, for example, while they are still welcome to attend meetings-even if they are currently using-it might be difficult to hear the message of hope and strength with as much clarity as they would if they were fully detoxed from a substance.
I think people need to also try remember these characters are supposed to be 16/17 lmao. we all made dumb mistakes with or without the kinds of trauma these teens also have heaped on top
Throughout the season 1 and now in season 2 of Euphoria i feel so much for Jules - I can't even imagine being so burdened with responsibility and, possibly, feeling caged in as she possibly does. No teenager should feel that way - I hope that she find some relief and takes out something positive for herself out of all this. BTW, great video, going now to binge on some more of your content, Courtney. :)
Nate seeing Maddy as a “chaotic and traumatizing” individual whereas Cassie is seen as a more “normal girl” reflects the trauma that women of color go through! Nate highlights how he sees a future with Cassie, but not Maddy. It’s almost as if Cassie is that white, blonde girl fitting the American dream that is CLEAR in his dream. But with Maddy, she is the “spicy and exotic” Latina fetishization phase for Nate. In season 1 when Nate tells Maddy that his family doesn’t like her, she was genuinely confused and upset. This was before she threw the chili. But when Nate brought home the blonde girl, automatically his parents “liked her”. Nate’s parents saw Maddy as a distraction but told McKay that he needs to “work extra hard to keep a girl like Cassie.” It’s wrong for people to be defending Cassie alone and listing Maddy as a villain. It demonstrates the power and manipulation of white woman tears and the stereotype of “crazy” Latina women!
YESSSS THIS! And the fact that Cassie is trying to wipe off all blame with her white woman tears lmao, people keep trying to excuse her actions as if she’s not equally culpable
This has been sitting with me for a while ever since the promo came out!!! I saw ppl comment that maddie is more “strong” and capable of taking Nate’s abuse, while Cassie is too innocent and being coerced. While I believe Cassie is being taken advantage of, this episode also shows the thrill of it and the idea of being in love trumps all for Cassie, and she’s aware of what she’s choosing to do, even though she’s scared of maddie. People free Cassie of all agency and display maddie as a bad bitch only.
Thank you for this, I didn’t really think about it like that. Because of race, I was thinking more about Maddy’s style and how they don’t like how she “presents” herself but this makes so much sense!
I love this! This episode was intense and I can’t wait to see the next one. The only thing I’m excited for is more Fez and Lexi, other than that everything is giving me anxiety lol
I can see this! Isn't a good thing, but yeah, I think he may be filling the "dominant male" figure missing from her childhood and she seems to be filling the submissive, more "homey" type of figure that he wishes perhaps his parents contained and that he had instead of what he had with Maddy.
@@the.truth.doctor makes sense since Maddy, despite being stuck in the abuse cycle, she isn’t afraid to speak up and stand against Nate unlike Cassie (who actually gets off being inferior to Nate)
I've been watching all your videos, I love the way how you are so emphatic with all their situations, I'm looking forward to watching the next episodes with you
"This isn't an unrealistic reality for teenagers across our country today"... I'M sorry WHAT?! I'm official traumatized for what my sweet little 7 yr old may have to face in her future! I binged the whole show over the last 4 days and I am SHOCKED at the immense number of kids choosing the worst of all terrible decisions! It makes me sad and honestly so scared for kids.
ngl, I was pretty mad at rue after this episode, but now you made me see her "euphoria background", which is what I call euphoria's mastery on explaning the background on why the charecters do what they do, withount excusing it
LOVE your Euphoria reactions! What I love most is that you provide incredible insight into the complexities of each character whilst still being invested in the actual show, and responding initially just like we would when watching! Can’t wait to watch next weeks 🙌🏼
I loved the contrast between Nate’s romantic fantasy about Cassie and the relationship he really established with her. She is the epitome of „a relationship kind of girl” and he made her his dirty little secret. And he could, if he really wanted to, have something with her. He’s using her friendship with Maddy to keep Cassie in check.
I do want to amend your commentary about Nate’s Dad being married to a woman, and instead note that he’s married to a *cis* woman, also being attracted to Transwomen (like Jules), and other cisgender men. Additionally, I medically transitioned in my late teens and straight out of High School, and I’ve only recently been able to look back on the bulk of my 20’s and identify teenaged behavior that I could not socially access as an LGBTQ young person. I’m 27 now and working hard to recognize and facilitate healthier ways of managing my traumas, and very much appreciate your commentary 🌿❤️✨
I’ve loved watching your Euphoria reactions. I anticipate that Maddy will find out about Nate/Cassie and use the tape to destroy not just Nate’s dad but Nate too, causing huge backlash with Jules obviously. One thing I observed and would like to know your thoughts about: Lexi’s mum is an alcoholic. How do you think that will affect Lexi and Fezco’s relationship, as they both have that common background of being around substance abuse. Lexi seems to be an old head on young shoulders, like Fez, yet she seems to reject drugs/alcohol (at least, I can’t remember an instance where she uses them) and is very prim and proper and, as it shows in this episode, is very passive. Very curious where their bond is going, and how their upbringings will affect their relationship.
Nate gaslights the absolute shit out of everyone in his life and I can seriously emphasize with both Cassie and Maddy. They both want to be happy and they think that Nate is going to be that endgame happiness. From personal experience when I was a teenager, I think that it's because they don't love themselves fully. Not saying the "you can't love someone until you love yourself." But I think they need that connection that being "loved" by someone makes them their best self
This was very interesting to watch, I’ve been binge watching for you an hour 🙈 Could you make a video about social anxiety and how it manifests and what happens to your body when it acts. Could you also make a video about fear of intimacy and vulnerability, it’s lead me to loneliness and it’s such a negative spiral that feels inevitable to this point. :/ I’ve been thinking about it and well...all my issues leads back to the fact that my mother passed away when I was a child. So I feel like I lost a portion of my childhood which has lead me to grow up a little faster, which has generally made me connect better as well as enjoy the company of adults more then with people my own age (16). Thank you for your videos and valuable content ❤️
I literally just noticed this about the music, but at 12:11 it was playing the reverb sound effects of Nate’s Theme as Cal was entering the store. Many people have joked it sounds like a guy wànking, which I actually kinda agree with. It’s like the combination of this violent slapping sound and masturbatôry motions, which - hear me out - seems like a callback to Cal’s tapes. Like the volatile and destructive part of Nate, as well as his intense internalized homophobia and insecurities around his sexual performance, stem from his father’s influence (the violence he exhibits towards his sexual partners). It’s literally embedded into his theme, but is then isolated and played back during Cal’s nearly violent confrontation with Fez, connecting the two back to each other. Just an interesting musical detail to note, I might be reaching though.
This was a really great vid-thanks so much for sharing! I think the reason Nate didn’t answer the question at the end was yes, to jerk his dad around but more importantly, he doesn’t have the tape! Cue the dysfunctinal relationship with Maddie…
i love ur videosss so much, you really catch onto the psychology behind all the character's actions and everything!! i feel like every euphoria viewer should watch ur videos, i think it will help some people understand the meaning behind some of the character's actions more!!
Some of the representations on the show is normal for me, I've been around alot of stuff, and at that age it feels like these are the biggest decisions and emotions. Self worth maybe being the biggest issue. Enjoyed the review as well
it's interesting to see the beginning of this episode when you compare it to the beginning of the last episode. Nate's family from the outside looks so perfect, and Fezco's family just looks like criminals. But Fezco never doubted his grandma's love for him, no matter how she treated other people, while Nate never felt loved by his dad.
hey love this video but i just wanted to say that most AA or NA meetings will actually let you come to meetings under the influence and not turn you away if you're genuinely looking for help! their doors are always open
Hi! Some do, some don’t. I definitely didn’t mean to discourage anyone from going if that’s what happened. I was in and out of AA/NA for years and took people to them for many other years. I’ve seen people be asked to step outside (someone stays with them) if they’re nodding out or highly intoxicated. But yes, I could have mentioned and will here that the only requirement to attend is a “desire to be sober or clean”. ❤️
omg this headline. I was literally like CASSIE WHY?! as the episode ended cuz I love Cassie but she's being such an idiot and I don't wanna be like CASSIE U IDIOT so that's such a relatable reaction..
I have a question about what you think Maddie’s role is in contributing to the toxicity of her and Nate’s relationship? like what he mistakes and things are? with Nate it’s obvious that’s he’s abusive and manipulative but how is Maddie contributing negatively?
It was strange when they said that in the beginning of the episode: implying Nate would have been better off without Maddy. They didn't give any context, however it is possible. It's not intentional on Maddy's part though. Nate has a desire to have his life be chaotic and his relationship with Maddy was just that (e.g their constant fighting and physicality, etc). I also think Maddy's impulsiveness and violent behaviors (not saying this judgmentally, just sort of what they were highlighting in the show with her attacking people) make Nate able to act that way in the relationship too, as though Maddy wouldn't leave him for being exactly who he is. Maddy just simply being herself gives Nate permission to keep being the same. It's not her fault though. I hope that helps!
@@the.truth.doctor I also think that Nate's dad has taught him that women should be submissive and the fact that Maddy is willing to disagree with him and argue with him shows her as a woman that is not totally submissive while Cassie is more easily manipulated and emotionally weak, so she will be less likely to challenge Nate's absolute dominance
I hate when in series someone gets the absolute shit beat out of them and then has them have a little scar 2 days later. It would take way longer than one week to heal as much as Nate did in this episode. It's a nitpick but it drives me crazy
I wonder how Nate could, if he sought help, deal with the trauma of having sexual imagery involving his dad be an integral part his burgeoning sexuality. And how similar is his situation/psychology to how a person (not everyone, obviously) might react to childhood sexual abuse. Cal didn't sexually abuse Nate necessarily, but he did sexually traumatize him. Other aspects of Cal's parenting explain much of the narcissism and manipulative elements of Nate's personality, but I think the sexual trauma is the heart of this very messy picture. As a related aside, though I think Nate's preoccupation with Jules and intense repression of any feelings for her is partly because she's trans and he is pathologically obsessed with heteronormativity; I think the bigger trigger is that Jules was roped in to Nate's sexual shame when he watched the video of her and Cal. To be blunt, those videos had been arousing to him since he was little and he was aroused by the one with Jules. And I can understand why he just cannot handle that psychologically (though it doesn't excuse 1 second of his behavior).
Great video. You gave a lot of insights to consider as we keep watching and reviewing the season ourselves. Nate seems to be breadcrumbing Maddy. Do you think he’s narcissistic?
I love every videos that u create! It's professional and helpful and so so so retale to the generation i lived. And i love ur ending music!! Does someone know what song it is?🙏🏻🙏🏻
Nate lied to his father. They had no intention of handing him over to the police. He blackmailed Jules with this video to give false evidence in favor of Nate. Nate had no intention of defending his father.
@@the.truth.doctor One day we need to discuss the way the beauty industry and social media is harming a generation of women. Regardless your killing it and keep going and keep touching lives. 🙌🏻🍑🧡
hey! this doesn't have much to do with the video but i wanted to know if you've ever heard of "move to heaven", it's a korean drama that follows a young man that runs a "trauma cleaning" business with his uncle, they clean deceased's rooms/houses and save the things they find important on a box to then give it to their loved ones so that they can heal and find peace. every episode tells a different story from different people, while also going through the main characters' own traumas and grief. i found it extremely helpful to my own healing process so i would love to see a therapist's input on the series! it's available on netflix and it has 10 episodes, lasting about 40/50 minutes each!
ppl love to psychoanalyse the men on the shows weird behaviour but not so much the girls like why does kat need a completely masculine guy its the same as nate wanting a really submissive girl n probably cos shes insecure bout not being feminine
i personally interpreted nate not answering his dad’s question about the tape as wanting to maintain a bit of control because maddy has it and he can’t tell his dad that. but i guess we’ll see in ep. 3
There was actually a really significant scene at the beginning of this episode when we see him on the stretcher when rue is describing Nate’s new found love for Cassie. If you look at Cassie and Maddy’s hands you can see that Cassie’s hand is covered in his blood while Maddy’s are clean and freshly manicured. This really gives an insight into Nate’s psyche and what personality traits he considers worthy of love in women. His relationship with Maddy is rocky because they are too similar they both need to maintain control in order for them both to feel like life is okay but they do it in different ways. Cassie from what we have seen in the show has serious abandonment issues and is willing to become whatever and whoever a guy wants in order to have his love even when it’s destructive. Cassie literally has Nate’s blood on her hands and she doesn’t care and THAT is why he loves her.
It's withholding information which isn't kind to Rue's mother, but also isn't directly lying. I would say it could initiate the same appropriate response as if he did lie though coming from Rue's mom. I think with my analysis of him not wanting to lie directly as it could jeopardize his recovery was his choice to also try and help Rue with her recovery by not shaking up her home environment. However, we also see that when Lexi wasn't upfront about Rue's use then Rue OD'd shortly after that. It's so tough to know what to do for someone when they are actively using.
I think nate blaming Maddie is unrelated. He likes Cassie because she is traditionally feminine. Everything Mate wants. Cassie's history and traumas make her submissive and for to the dominate person. So Nate sees someone he can fully take advantage of.
Can someone fill me in what’s so chaotic about Maddie? I think by herself she’s alright. With her and Nate together I think the problem is Nate not her. Thoughts?
Loved this review! I don't watch the show, but I watch these - it's better! Haha. I just saw Chemical Hearts, would love you to do a review of that film too!
Let’s address why I want Cassie and Nate together 😭..I have a thing for reformed Bad Boys 🤣. Of course them getting therapy and addressing their issues to become a better person. I like some of his dominance behavior 😭
But there has been no therapy to speak of & I honestly cant see him going 😅 he is in serious denial of his anger, his physical abuse towards his ex, his sexuality, and his manipulative tendencies & thinks that a "good woman" will fix all his issues. Reform can be amazing but I think the person must put in the work + atone for their mistakes first ...
Ppl up here saying nate sweet tripping, Kat's character development definitely has regressed for who knows why... rue being established gay last season but this bs with elliot... idk what ol boy doing in the writer's room...
except rue was literally never “established” as anything, ever, by neither the show nor the writers lol, and that’s fine so no reason to put a label that doesn’t exist
I actually like that Kat's insecurities haven't just disappeared. Progress often isn't linear - it has its ups and downs. Kat herself said that her confidence before "wasn't real", which I think implies that she was kind of putting on a "mask" in the last season. This helped her have the courage to do things she otherwise wouldn't have, like talk to Ethan, and it definitely helped her gain some real confidence too, but didn't erase her lifetime's worth of insecurities. It seems like her dissatisfaction with Ethan is fueling her self hate too. She seems to feel bad about wanting more.
What did you guys think about Episode 2?! What are your thoughts on Cassie and Nate? How do you think Rue and Jules will end up? Do you think Maddy will release the tape? 😱 Let me know in the comments below. 👇
Your face was my face when I seen this episode
I love ❤️ Euphoria and love this channel 🥰
Nate blaming Maddy for his own actions is so horrible.
It's such an emotionally disturbing thing he says. I was shocked.
@@the.truth.doctor ikjlk ok lllp
Cal had no right to interrogate Lexi and Cassie like that. Lexi and Cassie's mom should have never let him into the house.
I was surprised she didn't say anything to him speaking to her daughters like that, she's not exactly the submissive type..however I think they were showing how controlling and intimidating he is.
he probs bribed the mom to let him in
If someones son was beat up almost to death, you would probably react like her mom
@@bratzglamoruslife123 you would let someone intimidate and threaten your child? Wow.
I thought this was so invasive, too! I assume they were implying he has power, as a parent, with the other parents and showing his overall manipulation skills.
Thanks for acknowledging that these characters experiences are normal for some teens out there. A lot of people say it's a shit show because it's unrealistic and romanticizes this type of behavior but just because it's not realistic to most people doesn't mean it's not realistic to some. People just see the sex and violence and drugs and don't dig any deeper.
You're so welcome! Thank you for commenting this. It's so important.
Not to mention the people saying this show romanticizes this type of behavior clearly have never seen the show, there's nothing romantic about any of these people's realities.
I hate those comments, they're so insensitive because myself and my friends can relate to A LOT of this show. Just because it's not your experience doesn't mean the experience doesn't exist for others. (Personally I have never seen myself in a main character the way I do with Rue)
I went to school with people who were dealing and doing drugs at like 13 and this was a school full of rich kids
I think it is important to note that no one has ever threatened to go to the police about Cal. Nate has been the only one throwing out threats. So that's an additional layer to his manipulative personality. Ultimately, Fez beat up Nate for calling the cops on him when all Nate had to do was leave everyone alone. But he can't tell his dad that.
ETA: I totally forgot about the conversation with Rue. I will say that's not why Fez beat him up and Nate knows that. Nate is still manipulating things because that is just who he is.
In the season finale Rue specifically told Nate the she has no problem going to the police and telling them that his „daddy“ „likes to f*ck little kids“.. so.. kind of. The fact that deep down Nate is deeply insecure for many different reasons just leads to him feeling the need to protect himself and his family so that no one will see them for what they really are. He wants everyone to see them as these strong, dominant alpha males. And that video.. well :D
Well...rue did. She did explicitly say she would go to the cops if he didn't leave jules alone. In their little balcony/stairwell convo last season. But she only threatened that bc nate was threatening to go to the cops about Jules CP, I think....but yeah...he didn't lie. He just left out his own actions that caused the threats to be made in the first place. Which is in character for him and very manipulative.
rue didn’t threaten but said she had no problem telling the cops
@@AnxietyRat and nate threatened her cause he needed her to comply and tell a lie to the cops
@@poptart75 well I’m sorry but if that’s not a threat idk what is :D she basically threatened him by saying either you leave us alone or I’ll tell the police and ruin your life, soo..
I honestly just want to grab Cassie and give her the biggest hug. I know she is being such a shit friend to Maddy right now, but I can't help but look at everything she has gone through, especially in her teen years and empathise. She knows this going to hurt Maddy soo much and she knows Nate is not the greatest guy and yet she is still pursuing it? Part of me looks at her right now and just can't help but see my own self destructive behaviours at that age. I really don't think she's doing it hurt Maddy, I feel like she's doing it to hurt herself.
I agree with this empathy, and I feel so bad that Maddy is going to have to find out and be so hurt, too. It's never fun when we hurt others because we are hurt. It's all so messy. I can relate too, on both ends.
This is so true I meantion this on my channel. This is the first time I read some else say that and not just Cassie is a bad friend.
@@the.truth.doctor But at the same time though, people are forgetting that Cassie AND Lexi have the similar, close to equal mommy and daddy issues. I often feel that the trauma that is caused by WITNESSING other people’s trauma is just as harmful. For example, when Cassie got the abortion, of course it was more traumatic for Cassie. But how about Lexi? I believe it was also a traumatic experience for her to see her sister go through that.
@@jessibearxo cassie going through an abortion is not the same as lexi knowing her sister had an abortion.. what 😭 plus lexi and cassie are very different cassie has been taken advantage of as soon as she went through puberty because of her body while lexi has different problems by being ignored completely
@@listenidk9709 I mentioned that “of course it was more traumatic for Cassie”. I meant to highlight that a lot of people tend to ignore Lexi’s trauma because she isn’t crying 24/7 or doing self-destructive activities.
hey! i don´t know if you catch that but Jules kept showing up in Nate´s montage of his life with Cassie pregnant, what are your thoughts on that? great video!
I did! There was so much to discuss! He definitely still has urges for her and I wonder if the blonde hair has something to do with it (among other aspects). Thanks for commenting this!
@@the.truth.doctor Cassie Slightly resembles Jules so it makes sense because of the blonde hair
Interesting - wonder if Cal had the same kinds of thoughts when his wife was pregnant…
i really thought about cassie being the perfect replacement for jules in his head. he thinks his best moral moment would be to just build a life with cassie insted of the violence in his relationship with maddy nor the "wrongness" he sees in his relation with jules (hence why he tried to destroy her, because she actually makes him question himself on his desires).
edit: maybe not even the violence, just the fact that maddy fights back on him and cassie is reeeaaally meak and submissive
@Ju-gw6uq 100% I think Cassie is a perfect mix of what he THINKS would be ideal. Denying the "negative" parts of his other relationships, Maddie's strength and confidence - not submissive, and Jules' transness and his confusion with his sexuality.
Cassie is like a gift to cure him from himself of those things (in a fked up toxic predatory way haha)
Also, on kat's storyline, theres a lot of theories on how her past with fanfiction ands p0rn affected her view on sex and relationships itself, the scene where a strong gladiator comes in witha sword kinda gives it away lol. What do you think of this view?
Everything we absorb affects how we see the world. P0rn has been shown to have a major affect on how we view sex and relationships, and actually so has fanfiction. I agree!
Another important thing is that Kat never tries to tell Ethan stuff that she wants them to try, probably because she doesn't want to scare him away. Both Ethan and Kat are very inexperienced sexually, so Kat also has unrealistic expectations of sex based on her rich fantasy world and is not willing to learn and grow with Ethan
@@nataliajimenez1870 as someone who relates and is Kat, she wants HIM to do it on his own because if she asks it ruins the fantasy. In books, the spicy love interest initiates everything and teaches the female MC the hot and heavy ropes of sex. Ethan, however, is very shy and non assertive as we saw in season 1 during the Halloween party. Kat says she doesn’t fuck virgins because they don’t know how to fuck and be dominant. I feel like if Ethan was more dominant and “macho,” she wouldn’t feel as insecure and torn about their relationship
i reckon cos shes like a bigger girl she prob dont see herself as feminine n shes insecure thats why she needs a well masculine man like how nate needs a well submissive girl
9:23 I’ve been thinking about this and considering this so much because what I see on Tik Tok and what my friends tell me. It really infuriates me because I have mental health disorders that make it very hard for me to believe positive things and see positive outcomes. So it kind of scares me when people say you can’t expect someone to love you if you don’t love yourself. Like I won’t ever be in a relationship until I fully love myself but that is incredibly hard for me to do because of how my brain is wired and balanced. I just wish the self care movement/ aesthetic reflected on more aspects like how to have self care with mental health issues. It just feels like it’s only made for people who need quick fixes like reading and walking or working out to love themselves. I don’t know, I’ve just been thinking about it a lot.
Completely agree!
I totally agree with this.
you absolutely don't need to love yourself to be able to love someone else. obviously this isn't the case for everyone but that quote is not a universal truth. you deserve love regardless of how you feel about yourself.
@@Raccocooney yes, this!!
I honestly find it deeply upsetting the way people just brush off how Cassie was too drunk to consent to sex with ANYBODY at the New Year's party, because they don't like her behavior now and don't seem to understand that Rue's voiceovers reflect what a character believes to be true, not necessarily the actual truth (I mean, hello Nate and his it's-all-Maddy's-fault hospital moment).
This girl was stumbling around, falling out of her shoes, even before Nate poured more beer into her. He had to help put her clothes back on after they almost got caught, for crying out loud! I'm not condoning or minimizing the destructive choices she's engaged in since, but Jesus, that doesn't look like "not all that drunk" to me.
Is it really so hard to believe that Nate would be predatory and exploitative? Or that Cassie would lie to herself in order to excuse a man she craves validation from?
Yo... This wasn't even a thought I had because I was thinking about so many other things. Cassie's destructive choices, Sam Levinson pair Cassie with Nate. I didn't even think Cassie was doing any good or really processed her feelings after her abortion. That effed up.
@@1234demilovatofan Sam pairing Cassie and Nate makes a hell lot a sense. Cassie has a lot of issues regarding her sexualization, men treating her like a doormat, lack of self respect not to mention her abandonment issues accompanied with the trauma of going through an abortion. She has always let men walk all over her and is a people pleaser. pair it with someone as manipulative and self serving as Nate and viola you get what actually happens in real life. Men like Nate don't go after Maddy in real life but they go after the girls like cassie because even if you treat them like horribly, the childhood trauma of abandonment and not being good enough for their partner will not let them leave the said abusive partner.
I need more love towards Fez & Lexi, only part I'm watching for tbh
SAME! Rooting for them all the way. 🙌
@@the.truth.doctor Im suprised you didnt talk about Lexi much at all or her story arc...
@@ilhan691 Unfortunately not all my commentary can make it in each video after editing, but I can not WAIT to see how she grows. I love her character and I'm so excited for her storyline to continue to develop!
What about the age difference? She’s 16-17 and he is in his 20s I presume…
@@DarkLittleCherry I read somewhere that they changed Fez's age since the first season so things add up and now he is 18 if I'm not mistaken
You are honestly giving the most insightful analyses on the series it's so entertaining. I'd love this for the whole season🙌
Thank you so much! Yes, I will be making a video for every episode and then going back to the special episodes because I don't really remember those from when I watched them so the reactions will be authentic like they are in all my other react videos :)
I'm in AA. The reason drunk/high people are sidelined is NOT because
they will trigger the others. If the person is on heroin or meth, for example, while they are still welcome to attend meetings-even if they are currently using-it might be difficult to hear the message of hope and strength with as much clarity as they would if they were fully detoxed from a substance.
I think people need to also try remember these characters are supposed to be 16/17 lmao. we all made dumb mistakes with or without the kinds of trauma these teens also have heaped on top
Throughout the season 1 and now in season 2 of Euphoria i feel so much for Jules - I can't even imagine being so burdened with responsibility and, possibly, feeling caged in as she possibly does. No teenager should feel that way - I hope that she find some relief and takes out something positive for herself out of all this. BTW, great video, going now to binge on some more of your content, Courtney. :)
I love how you can give a clinical perspective on the show while also being emotionally invested in the characters like the rest of us :)
Nate seeing Maddy as a “chaotic and traumatizing” individual whereas Cassie is seen as a more “normal girl” reflects the trauma that women of color go through! Nate highlights how he sees a future with Cassie, but not Maddy. It’s almost as if Cassie is that white, blonde girl fitting the American dream that is CLEAR in his dream. But with Maddy, she is the “spicy and exotic” Latina fetishization phase for Nate. In season 1 when Nate tells Maddy that his family doesn’t like her, she was genuinely confused and upset. This was before she threw the chili. But when Nate brought home the blonde girl, automatically his parents “liked her”. Nate’s parents saw Maddy as a distraction but told McKay that he needs to “work extra hard to keep a girl like Cassie.” It’s wrong for people to be defending Cassie alone and listing Maddy as a villain. It demonstrates the power and manipulation of white woman tears and the stereotype of “crazy” Latina women!
YESSSS THIS! And the fact that Cassie is trying to wipe off all blame with her white woman tears lmao, people keep trying to excuse her actions as if she’s not equally culpable
Go off!!
This has been sitting with me for a while ever since the promo came out!!! I saw ppl comment that maddie is more “strong” and capable of taking Nate’s abuse, while Cassie is too innocent and being coerced.
While I believe Cassie is being taken advantage of, this episode also shows the thrill of it and the idea of being in love trumps all for Cassie, and she’s aware of what she’s choosing to do, even though she’s scared of maddie.
People free Cassie of all agency and display maddie as a bad bitch only.
Oh my god I was thinking the exact same thing. I knew I wasnt reaching
Thank you for this, I didn’t really think about it like that. Because of race, I was thinking more about Maddy’s style and how they don’t like how she “presents” herself but this makes so much sense!
I love this! This episode was intense and I can’t wait to see the next one. The only thing I’m excited for is more Fez and Lexi, other than that everything is giving me anxiety lol
I want more of them so badly too!!!
I do think Cassie and Nate also have a better dominant-submissive personality balance, which makes their attachment stronger
... you cant be forreal
I can see this! Isn't a good thing, but yeah, I think he may be filling the "dominant male" figure missing from her childhood and she seems to be filling the submissive, more "homey" type of figure that he wishes perhaps his parents contained and that he had instead of what he had with Maddy.
@@htaylor9677 I’m not saying it’s a good thing I’m simply stating a theory
@@the.truth.doctor makes sense since Maddy, despite being stuck in the abuse cycle, she isn’t afraid to speak up and stand against Nate unlike Cassie (who actually gets off being inferior to Nate)
I've been watching all your videos, I love the way how you are so emphatic with all their situations, I'm looking forward to watching the next episodes with you
Thank you so much!!
"This isn't an unrealistic reality for teenagers across our country today"...
I'M sorry WHAT?! I'm official traumatized for what my sweet little 7 yr old may have to face in her future! I binged the whole show over the last 4 days and I am SHOCKED at the immense number of kids choosing the worst of all terrible decisions! It makes me sad and honestly so scared for kids.
ngl, I was pretty mad at rue after this episode, but now you made me see her "euphoria background", which is what I call euphoria's mastery on explaning the background on why the charecters do what they do, withount excusing it
Thank you!
the store scene stressed me out so much. nate and cal give me to much anxiety
LOVE your Euphoria reactions! What I love most is that you provide incredible insight into the complexities of each character whilst still being invested in the actual show, and responding initially just like we would when watching!
Can’t wait to watch next weeks 🙌🏼
Thank you so much!
I loved the contrast between Nate’s romantic fantasy about Cassie and the relationship he really established with her. She is the epitome of „a relationship kind of girl” and he made her his dirty little secret. And he could, if he really wanted to, have something with her. He’s using her friendship with Maddy to keep Cassie in check.
I do want to amend your commentary about Nate’s Dad being married to a woman, and instead note that he’s married to a *cis* woman, also being attracted to Transwomen (like Jules), and other cisgender men.
Additionally, I medically transitioned in my late teens and straight out of High School, and I’ve only recently been able to look back on the bulk of my 20’s and identify teenaged behavior that I could not socially access as an LGBTQ young person.
I’m 27 now and working hard to recognize and facilitate healthier ways of managing my traumas, and very much appreciate your commentary 🌿❤️✨
Yes, absolutely! Thank you :)
Ep. 2 was really confusing, this brought so much clarity and insight! 💖
Yay! Thank you :)
I’ve loved watching your Euphoria reactions. I anticipate that Maddy will find out about Nate/Cassie and use the tape to destroy not just Nate’s dad but Nate too, causing huge backlash with Jules obviously.
One thing I observed and would like to know your thoughts about: Lexi’s mum is an alcoholic. How do you think that will affect Lexi and Fezco’s relationship, as they both have that common background of being around substance abuse. Lexi seems to be an old head on young shoulders, like Fez, yet she seems to reject drugs/alcohol (at least, I can’t remember an instance where she uses them) and is very prim and proper and, as it shows in this episode, is very passive. Very curious where their bond is going, and how their upbringings will affect their relationship.
Nate gaslights the absolute shit out of everyone in his life and I can seriously emphasize with both Cassie and Maddy. They both want to be happy and they think that Nate is going to be that endgame happiness. From personal experience when I was a teenager, I think that it's because they don't love themselves fully. Not saying the "you can't love someone until you love yourself." But I think they need that connection that being "loved" by someone makes them their best self
I love your videos so much. I appreciate all your hard work. I'll be returning for next episode😭 Keep going Dr.Courtney Tracy!❤
This was very interesting to watch, I’ve been binge watching for you an hour 🙈
Could you make a video about social anxiety and how it manifests and what happens to your body when it acts.
Could you also make a video about fear of intimacy and vulnerability, it’s lead me to loneliness and it’s such a negative spiral that feels inevitable to this point. :/
I’ve been thinking about it and well...all my issues leads back to the fact that my mother passed away when I was a child. So I feel like I lost a portion of my childhood which has lead me to grow up a little faster, which has generally made me connect better as well as enjoy the company of adults more then with people my own age (16).
Thank you for your videos and valuable content ❤️
Thank you for sharing some of your story. I can absolutely add these to the list
I literally just noticed this about the music, but at 12:11 it was playing the reverb sound effects of Nate’s Theme as Cal was entering the store. Many people have joked it sounds like a guy wànking, which I actually kinda agree with. It’s like the combination of this violent slapping sound and masturbatôry motions, which - hear me out - seems like a callback to Cal’s tapes. Like the volatile and destructive part of Nate, as well as his intense internalized homophobia and insecurities around his sexual performance, stem from his father’s influence (the violence he exhibits towards his sexual partners). It’s literally embedded into his theme, but is then isolated and played back during Cal’s nearly violent confrontation with Fez, connecting the two back to each other. Just an interesting musical detail to note, I might be reaching though.
This was a really great vid-thanks so much for sharing! I think the reason Nate didn’t answer the question at the end was yes, to jerk his dad around but more importantly, he doesn’t have the tape! Cue the dysfunctinal relationship with Maddie…
Thank you! I agree with you!
I was wondering, have you seen the two special episodes of Rue and Jules that came out a few months ago? I would love to see your reaction to them
LOVE how you break everything down. Much to think about.
U should review the show YOU from your therapy background
That would be interesting! Thank you for suggesting :)
I just found your channel... And I am truly realising things that I already deep down knew. Thank god for you, I hope I learn from this ❤✌
This is such a cool and potentially useful viewpoint for watching this show--learning a lot, thank you!
I feel like young adults can definitely relate to this in their everyday life since they too are figuring all their life.
This videos are so interesting! And your reactions, we can see you love the series.
Thank you so much! I really do love it. I appreciate how they showcase the real struggle and dynamic lifestyle of this sector of our society!
i love ur videosss so much, you really catch onto the psychology behind all the character's actions and everything!! i feel like every euphoria viewer should watch ur videos, i think it will help some people understand the meaning behind some of the character's actions more!!
Thank you so much for commenting this! Means a lot :)
Some of the representations on the show is normal for me, I've been around alot of stuff, and at that age it feels like these are the biggest decisions and emotions. Self worth maybe being the biggest issue. Enjoyed the review as well
Thank you so much. Self-worth plays such a major factor in our decisions at this age.
Your so under rated wow I love your content please never stop
Thank you! My channel just recently started with my good stuff. It took me a little while to try and figure this whole TH-cam thing out ;)
it's interesting to see the beginning of this episode when you compare it to the beginning of the last episode. Nate's family from the outside looks so perfect, and Fezco's family just looks like criminals. But Fezco never doubted his grandma's love for him, no matter how she treated other people, while Nate never felt loved by his dad.
hey love this video but i just wanted to say that most AA or NA meetings will actually let you come to meetings under the influence and not turn you away if you're genuinely looking for help! their doors are always open
Hi! Some do, some don’t. I definitely didn’t mean to discourage anyone from going if that’s what happened. I was in and out of AA/NA for years and took people to them for many other years. I’ve seen people be asked to step outside (someone stays with them) if they’re nodding out or highly intoxicated. But yes, I could have mentioned and will here that the only requirement to attend is a “desire to be sober or clean”. ❤️
omg this headline.
I was literally like CASSIE WHY?! as the episode ended cuz I love Cassie but she's being such an idiot and I don't wanna be like CASSIE U IDIOT so that's such a relatable reaction..
I have a question about what you think Maddie’s role is in contributing to the toxicity of her and Nate’s relationship? like what he mistakes and things are? with Nate it’s obvious that’s he’s abusive and manipulative but how is Maddie contributing negatively?
yes exactly how is it maddy's fault
It was strange when they said that in the beginning of the episode: implying Nate would have been better off without Maddy. They didn't give any context, however it is possible. It's not intentional on Maddy's part though. Nate has a desire to have his life be chaotic and his relationship with Maddy was just that (e.g their constant fighting and physicality, etc). I also think Maddy's impulsiveness and violent behaviors (not saying this judgmentally, just sort of what they were highlighting in the show with her attacking people) make Nate able to act that way in the relationship too, as though Maddy wouldn't leave him for being exactly who he is. Maddy just simply being herself gives Nate permission to keep being the same. It's not her fault though. I hope that helps!
@@the.truth.doctor I also think that Nate's dad has taught him that women should be submissive and the fact that Maddy is willing to disagree with him and argue with him shows her as a woman that is not totally submissive while Cassie is more easily manipulated and emotionally weak, so she will be less likely to challenge Nate's absolute dominance
I hate when in series someone gets the absolute shit beat out of them and then has them have a little scar 2 days later. It would take way longer than one week to heal as much as Nate did in this episode. It's a nitpick but it drives me crazy
I love hearing your perspective!! Unrelated: you look like AOC (which is a compliment)!
I wonder how Nate could, if he sought help, deal with the trauma of having sexual imagery involving his dad be an integral part his burgeoning sexuality. And how similar is his situation/psychology to how a person (not everyone, obviously) might react to childhood sexual abuse. Cal didn't sexually abuse Nate necessarily, but he did sexually traumatize him. Other aspects of Cal's parenting explain much of the narcissism and manipulative elements of Nate's personality, but I think the sexual trauma is the heart of this very messy picture.
As a related aside, though I think Nate's preoccupation with Jules and intense repression of any feelings for her is partly because she's trans and he is pathologically obsessed with heteronormativity; I think the bigger trigger is that Jules was roped in to Nate's sexual shame when he watched the video of her and Cal. To be blunt, those videos had been arousing to him since he was little and he was aroused by the one with Jules. And I can understand why he just cannot handle that psychologically (though it doesn't excuse 1 second of his behavior).
Great video. You gave a lot of insights to consider as we keep watching and reviewing the season ourselves. Nate seems to be breadcrumbing Maddy. Do you think he’s narcissistic?
I love every videos that u create! It's professional and helpful and so so so retale to the generation i lived. And i love ur ending music!! Does someone know what song it is?🙏🏻🙏🏻
Nate lied to his father. They had no intention of handing him over to the police. He blackmailed Jules with this video to give false evidence in favor of Nate. Nate had no intention of defending his father.
I LOVE THIS!!!!
I was wondering if you could go back and do commentary videos on the first season
I can really relate to Kat. Wanting sexual desire and feeling bad for it. Like you described it personally. Any advice you can give about this?
I am so proud of what you are doing here Dr T. 🙌🏻🍑🧡Lisa
Thank you!!
@@the.truth.doctor
One day we need to discuss the way the beauty industry and social media is harming a generation of women.
Regardless your killing it and keep going and keep touching lives. 🙌🏻🍑🧡
the convenience store scene was so stressful xD
hey! this doesn't have much to do with the video but i wanted to know if you've ever heard of "move to heaven", it's a korean drama that follows a young man that runs a "trauma cleaning" business with his uncle, they clean deceased's rooms/houses and save the things they find important on a box to then give it to their loved ones so that they can heal and find peace. every episode tells a different story from different people, while also going through the main characters' own traumas and grief. i found it extremely helpful to my own healing process so i would love to see a therapist's input on the series! it's available on netflix and it has 10 episodes, lasting about 40/50 minutes each!
i love your reactions ❤️
Thank you!
Just found your channel, loving this insight! Got yourself a new subscriber ❤️
Thank you!
Good review! I gotta know where you got the colored art on the wall. Where’s it from?
I made it! It’s a picture of my brands gradient and I had it printed on canvas.
BPD is why. She needs a good therapist & can someone in euphoriaworld send her a few of those DBT workbooks? Those things will save your damn life
What about letting Jules know that she started using drugs when she left? It is very fucked up to want to make her feel guilty, to manipulate her.
sees rue and jules: "Yesssss!"
sees nate and cassie: "Noooooo!"
ppl love to psychoanalyse the men on the shows weird behaviour but not so much the girls like why does kat need a completely masculine guy its the same as nate wanting a really submissive girl n probably cos shes insecure bout not being feminine
i personally interpreted nate not answering his dad’s question about the tape as wanting to maintain a bit of control because maddy has it and he can’t tell his dad that. but i guess we’ll see in ep. 3
There was actually a really significant scene at the beginning of this episode when we see him on the stretcher when rue is describing Nate’s new found love for Cassie. If you look at Cassie and Maddy’s hands you can see that Cassie’s hand is covered in his blood while Maddy’s are clean and freshly manicured. This really gives an insight into Nate’s psyche and what personality traits he considers worthy of love in women. His relationship with Maddy is rocky because they are too similar they both need to maintain control in order for them both to feel like life is okay but they do it in different ways. Cassie from what we have seen in the show has serious abandonment issues and is willing to become whatever and whoever a guy wants in order to have his love even when it’s destructive. Cassie literally has Nate’s blood on her hands and she doesn’t care and THAT is why he loves her.
9:40: Positive psychology be like...
I assumed the other people couldn't tell that Rue was high...other than her sharp sponsor.
The sponsor not answering the question, withholding what he knows, is that lying?
It's withholding information which isn't kind to Rue's mother, but also isn't directly lying. I would say it could initiate the same appropriate response as if he did lie though coming from Rue's mom. I think with my analysis of him not wanting to lie directly as it could jeopardize his recovery was his choice to also try and help Rue with her recovery by not shaking up her home environment. However, we also see that when Lexi wasn't upfront about Rue's use then Rue OD'd shortly after that. It's so tough to know what to do for someone when they are actively using.
LOL your reaction must be the same in so many adults above 30 like me , this series make me feel old and not miss being a teenager at all 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I. do. not. miss. it. Hahaha. However, I do feel happy I went through it so I can be a voice for the type of lifestyle as a teenager!~
I think nate blaming Maddie is unrelated. He likes Cassie because she is traditionally feminine. Everything Mate wants. Cassie's history and traumas make her submissive and for to the dominate person. So Nate sees someone he can fully take advantage of.
can't wait for trauma bond vid
First! And here I am again asking if you could please react to rue's special episode ❤️
Yes! As soon as season 2 ends, I will add that to my list of reacts. Thank you for being first. ❤
Can you react to 13 Reason why
This show! Yes, I watched this whole show but I don't remember much of it. That is a great idea!
Can someone fill me in what’s so chaotic about Maddie? I think by herself she’s alright. With her and Nate together I think the problem is Nate not her. Thoughts?
The fact that she had no problem fabricating a story about her being SA is ok with you?
@@eliminator173That’s light compared to Nate. Like what else?
@@angelblu27834 she put a man an innocent man in jail for SA. Thats light?
@@eliminator173 in the realm of bad things on this show, yes that’s light. That’s why I said what else.
@@angelblu27834 lol ya'll girls gotta stick together i guess.
YES ❤️
Thank you!
Loved this review! I don't watch the show, but I watch these - it's better! Haha. I just saw Chemical Hearts, would love you to do a review of that film too!
Thank you! Adding it to the list :)
you keep talking over the scenes missing key moments and dialogue. i suggest you pause between comments so that doesn’t happen :)
this has nothing to do with the show but you look so similar to aoc the resemblance is unreal.
Haha I get that a lot! ☺️
So you’re 31? You’re beautiful. You look like you could be ten years younger.
Let’s address why I want Cassie and Nate together 😭..I have a thing for reformed Bad Boys 🤣. Of course them getting therapy and addressing their issues to become a better person. I like some of his dominance behavior 😭
But there has been no therapy to speak of & I honestly cant see him going 😅 he is in serious denial of his anger, his physical abuse towards his ex, his sexuality, and his manipulative tendencies & thinks that a "good woman" will fix all his issues. Reform can be amazing but I think the person must put in the work + atone for their mistakes first ...
Ppl up here saying nate sweet tripping, Kat's character development definitely has regressed for who knows why... rue being established gay last season but this bs with elliot... idk what ol boy doing in the writer's room...
except rue was literally never “established” as anything, ever, by neither the show nor the writers lol, and that’s fine so no reason to put a label that doesn’t exist
I actually like that Kat's insecurities haven't just disappeared. Progress often isn't linear - it has its ups and downs. Kat herself said that her confidence before "wasn't real", which I think implies that she was kind of putting on a "mask" in the last season. This helped her have the courage to do things she otherwise wouldn't have, like talk to Ethan, and it definitely helped her gain some real confidence too, but didn't erase her lifetime's worth of insecurities. It seems like her dissatisfaction with Ethan is fueling her self hate too. She seems to feel bad about wanting more.
you favor Sydney Sweeney in the face
looking forward to watching these after every episode!