having extensively used the Polaris 4x4 ev's they make this thing look like a $5 toy, they never overheated with 200+kg's on the back with 2 people and did 55+kmph also held charge for 200+km
I watch videos on these cheaper machines out of curiosity, however I’m always glad that I ended up buying the Polaris when I hear the deafening suspension squeaks in the roll, cage, rattle, and all the other weird little corks in these offbrand machines😊
if the wood heap was closer to home, you'd save battery power. but seriously, you say you're off grid, charging an ev off grid, you need a decent system, and try to charge it during day. so consideration on whether your system can cope is necessary. great review Ozzie, and it did a lot better than i thought it would.
Its not everybodies cup of tea but there is a market for it, like any purchasing decision you have to weigh the pros and cons for what you need and go with that
I’ve had a Polaris EV since 2010. At the time it cost $20k which I thought was high but now the Polaris and this Greenworks are redicously priced. When it’s time to replace it I’ll be purchasing something like a Jimmy and then I can also register it.
The main issue I have, besides range and recharging and price (!!!), is that unlike a petrol SXS you can't just chuck a jerry can on the tray and increase your range. So with the Wolverine R4, say, you can get a couple hundred Ks with a full tank and with 2 jerry cans you've doubled your range. Can't do that with a EV. The only benefit I can see with an EV is the low noise. Great if you only do a few kms every day but when hunting we can easy do 150kms a night, this would be useless. A real niche product for sure.
I had a Suzuki Mighty Boy years ago, it was great for shooting rabbits, they wouldn't hear it coming, this might be good that way too although the Mighty Boy didn't rattle as much .
This is really useful review. Like with all of Ozzie’s reviews, he tells it like he sees it. It confirms my assessment, which is that the battery powered sxs is very expensive for what you get. Having said that, if I really wanted an electric sxs, the extra $5k you would have to spend on the Polaris ESXS would be worth it, for the piece of mind you get when buying something from a well established brand. I think the low noise output of this or the Polaris is the only positive attribute for the money. I have owned a Kawasaki Mule SX XC for 18 months that cost $15k brand new. They still cost about that if you want to get one today. Even though my Mule only has a 400cc petrol single engine, it has had no problems climbing steep hills if you put it in low range. I use mine solely as a hunting buggy. It meets all my needs for a fraction of the price of an ESXS. My Mule only has a top speed of 39 km/h and is a very unexciting sxs. If, however, I had wanted a more exciting sxs, I would have bought one. My primary desire was functionality. I agree with Ozzie that the low noise output of an ESXS would be excellent for a hunting vehicle. I also agree that in most of the hunting situations I have used my Mule in, that the 60 km range of his ESXS is not a problem. But not in all of them. On some occasions I have gone further than 60 km in a night. With my Mule, starting with a full tank and taking a 10 litre jerry can would ensure I have all the range I need for three nights of hunting on a 2500 acre property I visit. At the end of the day, it’s all a question of preference and whether the low noise output of the ESXS is worth it to each individual user. Clearly for Ozzie it is worth it. My local Polaris dealer has an ESXS in his showroom at the moment. It looks very impressive. I suspect it would make an excellent hunting vehicle. The noise my Mule makes does spook game. Which means we often have to stop short and walk up on animals. You pay your money and you take your chances.
We have a tuatara ev utv on our farm. It only has 2 ratios. Has similar specs to yours. The rep said to only tackle hills in low ratio. Looking at your videos it looks like you are tackling the hills in medium. This loads the motor and draws more current from the battery than low ratio. In my research these types of vehicles tend to get away with a smaller motor as more powerful Motors require bigger batteries to be able to deliver enough current. I suspect if you tackled multiple Hills in low range you'd be ok. But maybe you're already doing that, just my two cents. I know ours won't even let you go up steep hills in high ratio, it cuts out to protect the battery. Low ratio I can go up steep hills no worries, we are on 500acres and it's all hills. Great Vid 👍
Be aware that keeping lithium batteries at full charge is not good for their longevity. You should aim to keep the battery under 80%, and above at least 20%, but ideally above 40%. You should only charge to 100% just before you intend on giving it a good run (back to at least below 80% for storage). I've killed a lot of smaller lithium batteries well before their time with my habit of keeping batteries topped up to 100%.
Yes some friends of mine are buying cheaper secondhand 4wd & even a Subaru wagon & cutting off the back part of the roof making it into a rough Ute & works well for around the farm and shooting etc & still have $26000 left over
Great video , sadly the technology and heat dissipation is not there. Cost and arm and a leg to replace the battery and probably a lot to charge overnight. Give me an engine any day.
Yeah! The price is extremely exorbitant for 98% of the population in Australia. I just can't comprehend how such a thing could be applicable for anyone. I don't mean to be negative, but.... You could buy a decent ute and petrol and run them for 10 years for that price! What is the longevity of the battery until you spend x amount of dollars on it to replace that?
I've been wanting something like this for while, but the heat and the low range, and low speed kill it as I live in Cape York on a massive property. More power, twice the range and faster charging time with passive cooling and I'd get it. Needs to do at least 80km/h
This looks pretty awesome tbh, but 40 grand, damn! That's getting very close to a regular car in price. They have some zero turn mowers and lawn tractors that are under 10k so I was expecting this to be in that ball park. I imagine this has way more power and speed though and probably more rugged for rough terrain, but for around a homestead I could see the lawn tractor doing ok at a fraction of the cost.
Would love to see your opinion on the CFmoto alternatives As they have a 71hp model that has complete cab for around 25 grand. what would be the better choice and for what reasons?
Nice sidebyside you got there, I like it a lot. Is it 40K Australian dollars? It looks very similar to my electric Hisun. Perhaps a little bit more rafined here and there, but the Hisun is only $11K in Norway and you can upgrade the dry cell batteries to lithium for around 3K or even less if you build your own battery.
Great review. I’m still waiting for electrics to be more goodera and brand name. Grabbed a Kubota but they’re noisy as f…. . Guess I’ll have to get out and wander a bit.
Excellent review! I have a Honda Pioneer 500 that sips fuel, will last over 20 years and will always have parts available. I just don’t get the big advantage of an EV UTV other than being quieter. They seem to me to be a nice but expensive stay close to home utility toy. Most of us can’t afford a UTV wannabe. If one chooses a small or midsized UTV, the petro saved will never off-set the purchase price or inevitable battery replacement and likelihood of boat anchor in 5-6 years. Not any criticism of your high quality video…just the whole notion of an overpriced, low quality EV UTV.
You’d pick up a used ev ranger for a song. Factor in new batteries and your be all done for under 10k. They’ve been making them for years and no issue with parts except for overseas delays.
No good for our place then. We have have cliffs for hills to go up and down in Millaa Millaa North Queensland. lol I think that tec will only get better.
We have cliffs for hills also. Got a tuatara ev utv. Similar specs to this. In low ratio its fine up hills but cuts out if you leave it in high to stop over heating. Looked like Ozzie was in medium. We also have a diesel Ranger and a kubto utv. The ev shits all over them up hills. But the diesels are terribly slow up hills.
I'm 4 1/2 mins in. First STRIKING thought - if I was "stuck" somewhere (fuel / range issue), I could always (eventually) bring a couple of litres of fuel down to an empty vehicle. I'd have the proverbial "2 chances" of bringing a bucket of electricity to something I'd got stuck in the creek.
I have a Honda Pioneer 500,petrol single cylinder, best hand brake in the business which will hold itself and fully loaded 8x5 trailer on any hill and will eat this thing for breakfast And best of all ----- only cost $14k At $39k --- it’s a joke Where is it made because I get Honda quality which means no,zero,none faults in 5 years of running Oh yeah and it is fully auto or manual and no crappy belts
Over heating fire hazard which is way to common, just useless to me & a ripoff. The Landcruiser has worked just fine for the last 25 years. That aside a well balanced review.
just because someone buys electric it doesn't make someone woke. it's about looking at your needs. battery chainsaws are a good thing they make less noise and would be ideal after storms for cleaning up fallen trees in citys.
having extensively used the Polaris 4x4 ev's they make this thing look like a $5 toy, they never overheated with 200+kg's on the back with 2 people and did 55+kmph also held charge for 200+km
I watch videos on these cheaper machines out of curiosity, however I’m always glad that I ended up buying the Polaris when I hear the deafening suspension squeaks in the roll, cage, rattle, and all the other weird little corks in these offbrand machines😊
I thought this would be a great hunting vehicle until the overheating problem . Then the price they are having a lend on that.😊
if the wood heap was closer to home, you'd save battery power. but seriously, you say you're off grid, charging an ev off grid, you need a decent system, and try to charge it during day. so consideration on whether your system can cope is necessary. great review Ozzie, and it did a lot better than i thought it would.
The farm is so green. Ours is dry as a bone.
Its not everybodies cup of tea but there is a market for it, like any purchasing decision you have to weigh the pros and cons for what you need and go with that
Great review. Lots of details and gave me all I need to make a buying decision. Thanks. 👍
I reckon they'd sell plenty of them at about $20-25k. And probably only govt departments that will pay $40k
How water resistant is the motor and battery set up? Will it handle heavy rain larger puddles etc
I’ve had a Polaris EV since 2010. At the time it cost $20k which I thought was high but now the Polaris and this Greenworks are redicously priced. When it’s time to replace it I’ll be purchasing something like a Jimmy and then I can also register it.
The main issue I have, besides range and recharging and price (!!!), is that unlike a petrol SXS you can't just chuck a jerry can on the tray and increase your range. So with the Wolverine R4, say, you can get a couple hundred Ks with a full tank and with 2 jerry cans you've doubled your range. Can't do that with a EV.
The only benefit I can see with an EV is the low noise.
Great if you only do a few kms every day but when hunting we can easy do 150kms a night, this would be useless.
A real niche product for sure.
Thanks for the warning about the chickens driving. They wrecked my last utv, I won’t make that mistake again!
I had a Suzuki Mighty Boy years ago, it was great for shooting rabbits, they wouldn't hear it coming, this might be good that way too although the Mighty Boy didn't rattle as much .
Alright Richy rich
omg 40k, no way!
This is really useful review. Like with all of Ozzie’s reviews, he tells it like he sees it. It confirms my assessment, which is that the battery powered sxs is very expensive for what you get. Having said that, if I really wanted an electric sxs, the extra $5k you would have to spend on the Polaris ESXS would be worth it, for the piece of mind you get when buying something from a well established brand.
I think the low noise output of this or the Polaris is the only positive attribute for the money. I have owned a Kawasaki Mule SX XC for 18 months that cost $15k brand new. They still cost about that if you want to get one today. Even though my Mule only has a 400cc petrol single engine, it has had no problems climbing steep hills if you put it in low range. I use mine solely as a hunting buggy. It meets all my needs for a fraction of the price of an ESXS. My Mule only has a top speed of 39 km/h and is a very unexciting sxs. If, however, I had wanted a more exciting sxs, I would have bought one. My primary desire was functionality. I agree with Ozzie that the low noise output of an ESXS would be excellent for a hunting vehicle. I also agree that in most of the hunting situations I have used my Mule in, that the 60 km range of his ESXS is not a problem. But not in all of them. On some occasions I have gone further than 60 km in a night.
With my Mule, starting with a full tank and taking a 10 litre jerry can would ensure I have all the range I need for three nights of hunting on a 2500 acre property I visit. At the end of the day, it’s all a question of preference and whether the low noise output of the ESXS is worth it to each individual user. Clearly for Ozzie it is worth it. My local Polaris dealer has an ESXS in his showroom at the moment. It looks very impressive. I suspect it would make an excellent hunting vehicle. The noise my Mule makes does spook game. Which means we often have to stop short and walk up on animals. You pay your money and you take your chances.
We have a tuatara ev utv on our farm. It only has 2 ratios. Has similar specs to yours. The rep said to only tackle hills in low ratio. Looking at your videos it looks like you are tackling the hills in medium. This loads the motor and draws more current from the battery than low ratio. In my research these types of vehicles tend to get away with a smaller motor as more powerful Motors require bigger batteries to be able to deliver enough current. I suspect if you tackled multiple Hills in low range you'd be ok. But maybe you're already doing that, just my two cents. I know ours won't even let you go up steep hills in high ratio, it cuts out to protect the battery. Low ratio I can go up steep hills no worries, we are on 500acres and it's all hills. Great Vid 👍
Be aware that keeping lithium batteries at full charge is not good for their longevity. You should aim to keep the battery under 80%, and above at least 20%, but ideally above 40%. You should only charge to 100% just before you intend on giving it a good run (back to at least below 80% for storage). I've killed a lot of smaller lithium batteries well before their time with my habit of keeping batteries topped up to 100%.
A Suzuki Jimney automatic is only $36,000, a much better choice, in my opinion.
It’s way too expensive! You’re right about the Suzuki.
Yes some friends of mine are buying cheaper secondhand 4wd & even a Subaru wagon & cutting off the back part of the roof making it into a rough Ute & works well for around the farm and shooting etc & still have $26000 left over
LOL for Ozzie, as I pick up a fresh Kubota RTV1120 tomorrow!
…it can carry lots of batteries…and chickens…
Great video , sadly the technology and heat dissipation is not there. Cost and arm and a leg to replace the battery and probably a lot to charge overnight. Give me an engine any day.
Yeah! The price is extremely exorbitant for 98% of the population in Australia. I just can't comprehend how such a thing could be applicable for anyone.
I don't mean to be negative, but.... You could buy a decent ute and petrol and run them for 10 years for that price! What is the longevity of the battery until you spend x amount of dollars on it to replace that?
I've been wanting something like this for while, but the heat and the low range, and low speed kill it as I live in Cape York on a massive property.
More power, twice the range and faster charging time with passive cooling and I'd get it. Needs to do at least 80km/h
This looks pretty awesome tbh, but 40 grand, damn! That's getting very close to a regular car in price. They have some zero turn mowers and lawn tractors that are under 10k so I was expecting this to be in that ball park. I imagine this has way more power and speed though and probably more rugged for rough terrain, but for around a homestead I could see the lawn tractor doing ok at a fraction of the cost.
Maybe we should get the Austrians to build a heap of Steyr-Puch Haflinger's, EVs are quieter but that's about it for advantages
Would love to see your opinion on the CFmoto alternatives
As they have a 71hp model that has complete cab for around 25 grand.
what would be the better choice and for what reasons?
Have they got charging stations in the bush now
Yep. They are called your house. 👍
@@darrenc4096 place we hunt is 200.000 acres. Good luck.lol
I see you are climbing in Medium… doesn’t it suggest climbing in Low?
I’ve done both as shown in earlier footage, really steep hills are in low and smaller not so steep hills in medium.
Nice sidebyside you got there, I like it a lot. Is it 40K Australian dollars? It looks very similar to my electric Hisun. Perhaps a little bit more rafined here and there, but the Hisun is only $11K in Norway and you can upgrade the dry cell batteries to lithium for around 3K or even less if you build your own battery.
Great review.
I’m still waiting for electrics to be more goodera and brand name.
Grabbed a Kubota but they’re noisy as f…. . Guess I’ll have to get out and wander a bit.
Excellent review! I have a Honda Pioneer 500 that sips fuel, will last over 20 years and will always have parts available. I just don’t get the big advantage of an EV UTV other than being quieter. They seem to me to be a nice but expensive stay close to home utility toy. Most of us can’t afford a UTV wannabe. If one chooses a small or midsized UTV, the petro saved will never off-set the purchase price or inevitable battery replacement and likelihood of boat anchor in 5-6 years. Not any criticism of your high quality video…just the whole notion of an overpriced, low quality EV UTV.
You’d pick up a used ev ranger for a song. Factor in new batteries and your be all done for under 10k. They’ve been making them for years and no issue with parts except for overseas delays.
The fan would use a fair bit of juice
No good for our place then. We have have cliffs for hills to go up and down in Millaa Millaa North Queensland. lol I think that tec will only get better.
We have cliffs for hills also. Got a tuatara ev utv. Similar specs to this. In low ratio its fine up hills but cuts out if you leave it in high to stop over heating. Looked like Ozzie was in medium. We also have a diesel Ranger and a kubto utv. The ev shits all over them up hills. But the diesels are terribly slow up hills.
I didn’t know that you voted Green 😮
I'm 4 1/2 mins in. First STRIKING thought - if I was "stuck" somewhere (fuel / range issue), I could always (eventually) bring a couple of litres of fuel down to an empty vehicle. I'd have the proverbial "2 chances" of bringing a bucket of electricity to something I'd got stuck in the creek.
I have a Honda Pioneer 500,petrol single cylinder, best hand brake in the business which will hold itself and fully loaded 8x5 trailer on any hill and will eat this thing for breakfast
And best of all ----- only cost $14k
At $39k --- it’s a joke
Where is it made because I get Honda quality which means no,zero,none faults in 5 years of running
Oh yeah and it is fully auto or manual and no crappy belts
Only problem is how to charge it up when we're 100% renewable. Won't be over night 😂
Price is bonkers for what you're getting.
Over heating fire hazard which is way to common, just useless to me & a ripoff. The Landcruiser has worked just fine for the last 25 years. That aside a well balanced review.
Nice but way too expensive.
$40,000 for an electric UTV that does 70km of range? Geez..
Is this satire?
It is green eh?!
I was interested until you got to the price. $40k is just a p!ss take.
You drive electric
You need to wear a hair bun
He ain’t a Pitt Street farmer.
THATS NOT A GUN
Relevant review for most of his subscribers, I am not a farmer but watched anyway
ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?
@@glennllewellyn7369 yes
an electric ute? Has ozziereviews gone woke?
just because someone buys electric it doesn't make someone woke. it's about looking at your needs. battery chainsaws are a good thing they make less noise and would be ideal after storms for cleaning up fallen trees in citys.